So cruising GWs site and checking out their 'What's New' stuff, I stumbled upon the new inquisitor blisters (they were pretty much expected, but here they are):

Coteaz:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1140003&prodId=prod1140055a

Inquisitor with power sword and inferno pistol:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1140003&prodId=prod1160013a

EDIT*****Those that don't know: This was prior released as "Limited Edition Inquisitor Lorr" originally****
Inquisitor with Plasma Gun and Power Fist:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1140003&prodId=prod1160014a

Annnnd a crusader blister:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1160012a

So while these aren't 'new' by any means, getting them separate is something new (except the crusader... it was available before, but not in this variant... in a blister).

Though, I have to say, them re-releasing the Inquisitor Lorr mini... well, while I like the mini, and am glad I can easily get another if I want it... kinda makes me urked that they re-released a promo/hard-to-get-mini for general release... That's just me though.

It was pretty shocking to see Specialist Games take the front seat too

hrmm... that is a big load of douchebaggery on GW's part to rerelease another "limited" figure to general production. i wonder if this means they'll do the same with the space wolf wolf priest eventually... the crusader is nice, though.

Though, I have to say, them re-releasing the Inquisitor Lorr mini... well, while I like the mini, and am glad I can easily get another if I want it... kinda makes me urked that they re-released a promo/hard-to-get-mini for general release... That's just me though.

They probably "re-released" it specifically because it was a hard-to-get-mini.

Here in the US, it was really only available at Games Days. Many stores couldn't get the ones they were promised, etc.

All that stuff was made available on Wednesday with the Grey Knights Advance Orders.

I'm really glad I got the Corteaz boxed set when it was available. Even better, I got it at the last dented box sale ever held at the Maryland HQ in early 2004 for $10! Corteaz costs $16 by himself now.

Specialist games - WTF - I thought they were long gone in spirit if not physically.

zinge wrote:Specialist games - WTF - I thought they were long gone in spirit if not physically.

They have been available on the GW site for a long time. However, only part of the lines are there, and there is no continuing development. Sad really, as a minimal investment in time and money for both Blood Bowl and Necro would net GW some good sales.

many folks are hoping they do some of these games like they did Space Hulk. A nice limited edition reboot of Necro would be awesome. Kinda out of left field but I think Man O War would sell well also.

Actually, I took a closer look. One of those models was NOT available until just now because it was an out of production limited edition model. I've got two of them, the value just went way, waaaay down.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1160014a

Not only that, but Coteaz and the Inferno Pistol/Power Sword guys were not available by themselves previously.

warboss wrote:hrmm... that is a big load of douchebaggery o GW's part

yes god forbid GW makes hard to find miniatures that people love to price-gouge buyers over more readily available!!!

We have plenty of legitimate things to complain about with reagrd to GW, this isn't one of them...

BrassScorpion wrote:Actually, I took a closer look. One of those models was NOT available until just now because it was an out of production limited edition model. I've got two of them, the value just went way, waaaay down.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1160014a

If i had known such cool inquisitors existed i might have started witch hunters instead of DE

BrassScorpion wrote:

This guy looks very cool! Not quite as good as the witch hunters inquisitor that is similar but I'd like to get a couple of these.

It's also interesting to note that GW are still selling the old metal PAGK with psycannon and incinerator. The new PAGK do look different and the new psycannons look very different so I wonder why GW are happy to keep flogging the old metal ones? Probably why they only put one psycannon (by the looks of it) in the new sprues.

We have plenty of legitimate things to complain about with reagrd to GW, this isn't one of them...

Well, actually I'm going to disagree with that because it's not an irrational criticism. When a model, or any product by any company, is released as "limited edition" people who buy it often do so with the expectation that they'll have something special years down the road because it was a limited run sold only for a limited time. Re-releases of "limited" items are a bit of a slap to people who buy items because of the collectible aspect, whether it's GW models, Beanie Babies, or collector plates with Mr. Spock painted on them.

(Wonders how many people around here actually have collectable plates with Mr. Spock on them)

BrassScorpion wrote:Actually, I took a closer look. One of those models was NOT available until just now because it was an out of production limited edition model. I've got two of them, the value just went way, waaaay down.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1160014a

In the past some companies have gotten in trouble for this sort of thing because of how they worded the original promotions and ads. Effectively its false advertisement to call it limited or limited edition when it isn't; to advertise something as limited they have to have documentation that production was restricted to a specific quantity. In the past people have sued to stop the indefinite manufacture and sales of such items.

I'm perfectly happy with them re-releasing these models. Why? Because I didn't know those two Inquisitors existed. I don't buy too many models from GW that look just plain fun to paint, but that guy with the plasma pistol looks great!

BrassScorpion wrote:

We have plenty of legitimate things to complain about with reagrd to GW, this isn't one of them...

Well, actually I'm going to disagree with that because it's not an irrational criticism. When a model, or any product by any company, is released as "limited edition" people who buy it often do so with the expectation that they'll have something special years down the road because it was a limited run sold only for a limited time. Re-releases of "limited" items are a bit of a slap to people who buy items because of the collectible aspect, whether it's GW models, Beanie Babies, or collector plates with Mr. Spock painted on them.

And I'll counter with it was never actually labeled "limited edition".

Inquisitor Gideon Lorr was introduced and marketed not as a "limited edition" model, but as a "limited release" model.

He was never available on the webstore here in the US(which was a idiotic mistake, because most of the shops that I know of never actually received their small amount of Lorrs that they were to receive for campaign rewards, etc), but only available through being an event reward(the Roadshows namely...which, again--never really got off the ground here in the US), and then later as one of the 'options' available to you through a White Dwarf subscription.

The new PAGK do look different and the new psycannons look very different so I wonder why GW are happy to keep flogging the old metal ones? Probably why they only put one psycannon (by the looks of it) in the new sprues.

For people who want to max out on a single special weapon, it's a way of doing so without scrounging bits or having to buy more box sets, though with two metal minis being roughly the cost of a box set of 5 GK, I'd never take that route. In fact, I traded away all my metal Grey Knights just before the plastics release including the many special weapon troopers I had. The only metal in my GK army will be the Inquisition related models.


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Kanluwen wrote:He was never available on the webstore here in the US

The gauntlet has been thrown. You are so incorrect, because I purchased my first Limited inquisitor model from the US web store, then got another at an Independent retailer. It was a web store "spotlight" item back when they had that daily web feature. And you can debate the difference between "edition" and "release" all you want, if they reissued it then it wasn't a limited release or limited edition.

Brilliant. I paid twenty quid for that miniature last month.

BrassScorpion wrote:

The new PAGK do look different and the new psycannons look very different so I wonder why GW are happy to keep flogging the old metal ones? Probably why they only put one psycannon (by the looks of it) in the new sprues.

For people who want to max out on a single special weapon, it's a way of doing so without scrounging bits or having to buy more box sets, though with two metal minis being roughly the cost of a box set of 5 GK, I'd never take that route. In fact, I traded away all my metal Grey Knights just before the plastics release including the many special weapon troopers I had. The only metal in my GK army will be the Inquisition related models.

He was never available on the webstore here in the US

The gauntlet has been thrown. You are so incorrect, because I purchased my two Limited inquisitor models from the US web store. It was a "spotlight" item back when they had that.

I never once saw him available on the US webstore. In fact, when I had inquired through them about it--I was told I'd have to attend the day of the events to get one.

And you can debate the difference between "edition" and "release" all you want, if they reissued it then it wasn't a limited release.

"Limited release" can mean pretty damned much whatever they want it to.

Is he going to be available in every FLGS as a blister? No?

Bam--limited release!
Is he going to be in constant production, with no gaps in his availability directly from GW or their events? No?

Bam--limited release!

'Limited editions' however has a very not debatable meaning. It means that there is a 'set' quantity of that item available and once it's gone, it's gone.

That inquisitor does look awesome. That's a really, really scrawny Power Fist though. More like a Power Glove. I'll be glad to get one of those and chop it's gun off to make something more fantasy-ish

I never once saw him available on the US webstore.

That's not my problem is it? That's where I first saw it and first bought it. I only bought the second one at my friend's store because I hated to say no to him after he went to the trouble to set it aside for me. By that point I'd already had one delivered to my door by ordering it through the GW website.

As for the rest, I made my point. Have fun arguing endlessly like you do all the time with everything and everyone around here.

BrassScorpion wrote:

I never once saw him available on the US webstore.

That's not my problem is it? That's where I first saw it and first bought it.

The closest thing I saw to him being available is when they told us when/where the events were.

The UK Webstore, however, did have him for sale.

BrassScorpion wrote:Actually, I took a closer look. One of those models was NOT available until just now because it was an out of production limited edition model. I've got two of them, the value just went way, waaaay down.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1160014a

*hugs his limited edition chaos sorcerer*

Not my mini but I needed a picture

I'm glad to be able to buy a miniature I always wanted, and not having to pay through the nose (even more). I've drooled over that miniature since it was released.

Kanluwen wrote:The UK Webstore, however, did have him for sale.

Dude, I bought it in the US from the US website store. They had it in the US website store too. Sorry you missed it. Get over it.

wow both of those Inquisitors are amazing looking. No more armies, no more.

I don't really see the point in Re-releasing the Grey knight Grand master, he doesn't look as good as the new minis anymore and you could easily make a better (and plastic) grand master out of one of your GK termies or get a SM special character like Marneus Calgar or another TDA armored guy, do a bit of converting/icon filing and you have an individual and more character like looking Grand master. Although I do like the inquisitors and crusader.

Lol, now they're selling the Grey Knight brother captain as a lone figure for 12.30! He used to come as standard with the 5 man termie squad which was how much? £25 I think. Pardon me but I think that is a rip off! Just because he's basically available as a HQ and a pretty good one (has the grand strategy) they've whacked the price up.

Hurrah for the return of Lorr, now I won't have to pay absurd amounts to one of those overcharging bastards on e-bay.

The Coteaz model is so badass. That's how power armor should look. The Eagle is a but dumb though.

I'll probably pick one of those up even though I never plan on playing Grey Knights.

Lorr and cortez make my life.

BrassScorpion wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:The UK Webstore, however, did have him for sale.

Dude, I bought it in the US from the US website store. They had it in the US website store too. Sorry you missed it. Get over it.

Hot damn, son. Stick it to him.

These models are nice, but they are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY over priced. $10 for a single mini is ridiculous. You could scratch build a dozen inquisitors from a box of Empire Flagellants combined with some space marine bits.

GW's stuff was overpriced 10 years ago and how they're still in business and competing with video games is mind boggling.

I am pleased they finally put Lorr into full production. He is probably one of my favourite Inquisitor miniatures ever.

I've never seen that crusader miniature before, the one with the cool shield.
My pants are ruined now.

What's interesting is that they're keeping some of the old metal GK range for sale as well. The old Brother Captain from the Termy box appears to be on sale separately as well.

I like the idea of Coteaz being on sale by himself (always wanted him but didn't want everything in his boxed set as I already owned all of it), ditto for the standard Witch Hunter Inquisitor (same reason - though I bitz ordered that Inquisitor when GW still had a bitz service).

As for Lorr? It took me a while to find him on eBay for a decent price, so it annoying to see him just become a 'normal' model. I like all the Ltd. Ed models I have - and I have heaps of them, from the Possessed Marine from the 3.5 Chaos Codex boxed army to the Skullz Adeptus Mechanicus unit - and it cheapens his specialness a little to have him available like a normal model. Don't care that much.


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JSK-Fox wrote:I've never seen that crusader miniature before, the one with the cool shield.
My pants are ruined now.

That was the other Crusader. There were always two, but only one was available outside of the Witch Hunter Inquisitor + Retinue box.

BrassScorpion wrote:Actually, I took a closer look. One of those models was NOT available until just now because it was an out of production limited edition model. I've got two of them, the value just went way, waaaay down.

i'd say it just dropped to 20.01% under the retail price unfortunately. i'm not against GW making *similar* minis (for instance if they changed his hat and added a melta pistol but kept the rest the same) to fill a need (like the dual crusaders who differ only in the hoodie the one pictured here wears) but i agree that "limited" should mean just that. if anything, they need to rerelease the wolf priest mini instead of this one. the only official GW commonly available fig for that role is a sculpt that was crappy even back in 2nd edition when it was first released. inquisitors... we've got plenty on the market.

I'm ecstatic that I spent $32 on the Coteaz boxed set when it originally came out, as I got 4 extra miniatures for only 2x the cost it is now!

For anyone who *doesn't* think the Gideon Lorr miniature was a limited release... here is a separate site that will confirm it: http://www.solegends.com/citle/citle2000/prcodes/pr18witchhunter.htm

Apparently he was planned originally to be in the WH box set... that, I didn't know.

I've heard that he was also originally available at store openings, Games Day events and promo events... it leads me to believe that he was intended to be just the 'promo' for coming out to an event (ya know... after his original intention).

Obviously plans changed even further...

This really makes me wonder what other models they're going to bring back... I wonder if my Epheral Stern is safe >.> or her inquisitor friend, lol.

Now, if you'll excuse me: I'm going to watch the news while my state is apparently burning to the ground... wth?!

Revarien wrote:For anyone who *doesn't* think the Gideon Lorr miniature was a limited release... here is a separate site that will confirm it: http://www.solegends.com/citle/citle2000/prcodes/pr18witchhunter.htm

He wasn't very limited, though. As far as GW limited releases go, he was right up there with the 'At Ease' Cadians and only a short way behind the Black Templar Marshall for availability, as he was sold at multiple games days and roadshows... and yes, for a very limited time when they were presumably clearing out some old stock, directly through the GW webstore.

I wonder if my Epheral Stern is safe >.> or her inquisitor friend, lol.

I would be very surprised if any of the Black Library miniatures ever make it into general release. They were a very different kettle of fish to the normal run of limited releases. Although part of that difference was just down to most of them not actually being very good...

Always wanted a Lorr model,glad i did not pay 40.00 dollars on ebay for him.

Seems to me highly selfish to be upset that your 'limited edition' figure is never produced again for fear that A) other people will have it (god forbid) and B) your figure won't be worth as much. They're just models.

The sense of entitlement is annoying to me, even as a person who has shifted a fair bit of 'collectable' stuff on eBay. I'm a buyer as well as a seller. Just because you have an old or limited figure you don't have a right to a premium on eBay. The thing you have to accept is that companies who see their old stock becoming valuable can always make it again, and I have to say that recasters see the same opportunity. To fill a clear gap in the market. As a collector you should learn to live with it.

Plenty of people have missed out on figures that have gone out of production 'limited edition' or not. Making them available for people again is for the good of the gaming community not its detriment. That's why the loss of the citadel back catalogues was such a blow.

Gideon Lorr has been out of production for some time now, it's not like they took a figure that was "limited edition" and put it into regular release straight after they suckered a load of people into buying it, it might be slightly cynical that they ignore their previous "limited edition" tag but I can't see the greater harm.

'Limited edition' is a nebulous term anyway. How limited? All figures are limited to some degree. It's not like they were individually numbered and GW claimed that only a certain total would be made.

I have limited edition figures and the though of them going back into production bothers me not a bit. Like the Dark Angels sergeant from some summer campaign that was only available in store events but is now on the GW site, or the Gimli on the dead Uruk.

I'm of the opinion that I would rather see figures available to all rather than see 'collectors' values soar, even though it would suit me to some extent. I'm even accepting of recasting to a degree on the basis that the figures involved are well out of production and that the person buying them is not being misled as to their 'genuine' or not nature.

Howard A Treesong wrote:Seems to me highly selfish that your 'limited edition' figure is never produced again for fear that A) other people will have it (god forbid) and B) your figure won't be worth as much. They're just models.

Dude, you think the RAEG here is bad, you should be glad you weren't a Transformer figure collector when they announced that Thundercracker(previous only available as an LE Henkei or Botcon exclusive) would be released in America to mass retail.

You know, because the mass retail(and therefore with different paint apps and no chrome to keep the price down) version would suddenly devalue the older figures.

Howard A Treesong wrote:Seems to me highly selfish to be upset that your 'limited edition' figure is never produced again for fear that A) other people will have it (god forbid) and B) your figure won't be worth as much. They're just models.

I don't really see it being selfish. Part of the attraction of buying limited editions is that they are, you know, limited. You're buying something (usually for more than you would normally pay for something equivalent in general release) on the understanding that it's that little bit special, on account of not being widely available to all and sundry.

So I think it's perfectly understandable for people to be upset when down the track that limited edition is released for sale to all.


That being said, I think that anyone buying limited editions from GW should also keep in the back of their minds that GW Limited Editions often aren't very... and that there will always be the chance that they model that you buy today as a limited edition may well become widely available, or be re-issued for a later event.

insaniak wrote:

Howard A Treesong wrote:Seems to me highly selfish to be upset that your 'limited edition' figure is never produced again for fear that A) other people will have it (god forbid) and B) your figure won't be worth as much. They're just models.

I don't really see it being selfish. Part of the attraction of buying limited editions is that they are, you know, limited. You're buying something (usually for more than you would normally pay for something equivalent in general release) on the understanding that it's that little bit special, on account of not being widely available to all and sundry.

So I think it's perfectly understandable for people to be upset when down the track that limited edition is released for sale to all.


That being said, I think that anyone buying limited editions from GW should also keep in the back of their minds that GW Limited Editions often aren't very... and that there will always be the chance that they model that you buy today as a limited edition may well become widely available, or be re-issued for a later event.

+1

I don't think it is hard to comprehend that if you sell something as 'limited edition', that is part of the sale as much of the model itself to a collector. Imagine you had searched ebay for months looking for that mini, finally got it, was happy you succeeded in your quest only to find out it was pit for half the price to everyone 2 months later... that sucks.

Is it a world ending big deal? No... but it definitely isn't selfish or unwarranted to be a bit pissed off IMO. Insaniak is right that someone familiar with GW's practices would be aware of the risk that it could be commonly released... but... you would have to be familiar, and there is no rule or obligation to study the history or business practices of the company to buy a mini.

MajorTom11 wrote:Insaniak is right that someone familiar with GW's practices would be aware of the risk that it could be commonly released... but... you would have to be familiar, and there is no rule or obligation to study the history or business practices of the company to buy a mini.

Although it should be some sort of red flag if the company in question isn't putting an actual figure on the 'limited' thing.

'Limited release of 1000 castings' would make it actually limited.
Just saying 'Limited Release' might mean it's actually limited. It might just mean that they've cast up a truck load of them to see how they sell. Or that they'll sell as many of them as people buy in a limited time period.

Sergeant Centurius was a genuine 'Limited Edition' (although even there, there was no actual figure put out as to how many were cast... just that limited quantities were sent out to stores, for sale on one specific day). So was the original Emperor's Champion... until they re-released him in the 'theoretically limited release but not really' Heroes of the Imperium box. Inquisitor Lorr... was limited only in that you could only buy him at certain events. And that was largely reflected in his price on the secondary market, compared to other more 'actually limited' miniatures.

Fair enough, I thought it was actually directly reffered to as limited edition. I guess the point is, don't pay too much for a mini just because you think it is rare or valuable, pay too much because you just want it that bad!

insaniak wrote:
Although it should be some sort of red flag if the company in question isn't putting an actual figure on the 'limited' thing.

'Limited release of 1000 castings' would make it actually limited.
Just saying 'Limited Release' might mean it's actually limited. It might just mean that they've cast up a truck load of them to see how they sell. Or that they'll sell as many of them as people buy in a limited time period.

Sergeant Centurius was a genuine 'Limited Edition' (although even there, there was no actual figure put out as to how many were cast... just that limited quantities were sent out to stores, for sale on one specific day). So was the original Emperor's Champion... until they re-released him in the 'theoretically limited release but not really' Heroes of the Imperium box. Inquisitor Lorr... was limited only in that you could only buy him at certain events. And that was largely reflected in his price on the secondary market, compared to other more 'actually limited' miniatures.

The problem is that the term itself is over used by "marketing" people without a grasp of the true ramifications.

Limited Edition, means there was some fixed document quantity made, they don't have to advertise it, but at the same time they can't just crank out more either and claim it was a higher number of castings.

Limited Release, means there is a fixed duration or venue availability beyond which they're not suppose to continue selling at.

Someone could assert that from a philosophical stand point all releases are limited releases or limited editions... since you can't get GW products every where and that GW won't produce a given model forever... that may be true, but what's important is the use of those terms is a claim on the part of a company to a consciously chosen self imposed restriction on availability. If its used as a selling point and then they change their minds, its false advertisement plain and simple.

insaniak wrote:

MajorTom11 wrote:Insaniak is right that someone familiar with GW's practices would be aware of the risk that it could be commonly released... but... you would have to be familiar, and there is no rule or obligation to study the history or business practices of the company to buy a mini.

Although it should be some sort of red flag if the company in question isn't putting an actual figure on the 'limited' thing.

'Limited release of 1000 castings' would make it actually limited.
Just saying 'Limited Release' might mean it's actually limited. It might just mean that they've cast up a truck load of them to see how they sell. Or that they'll sell as many of them as people buy in a limited time period.

Sergeant Centurius was a genuine 'Limited Edition' (although even there, there was no actual figure put out as to how many were cast... just that limited quantities were sent out to stores, for sale on one specific day). So was the original Emperor's Champion... until they re-released him in the 'theoretically limited release but not really' Heroes of the Imperium box. Inquisitor Lorr... was limited only in that you could only buy him at certain events. And that was largely reflected in his price on the secondary market, compared to other more 'actually limited' miniatures.

Centurius was sent out as one model per store to celebrate the opening of their 100th store. Hence his name.
I do not know how they handled selling that one at each.
He is the only model I have ever seen a number associated with.

Based on the numbers I've seen on eBay, he has been re-cast a bit.

Just glad I managed to get both the inquistor boxed sets the other month for only a little more (each) than now I'd have to pay to buy 2 guys! Still they are are all really good models.

skrulnik wrote:

insaniak wrote:

MajorTom11 wrote:Insaniak is right that someone familiar with GW's practices would be aware of the risk that it could be commonly released... but... you would have to be familiar, and there is no rule or obligation to study the history or business practices of the company to buy a mini.

Although it should be some sort of red flag if the company in question isn't putting an actual figure on the 'limited' thing.

'Limited release of 1000 castings' would make it actually limited.
Just saying 'Limited Release' might mean it's actually limited. It might just mean that they've cast up a truck load of them to see how they sell. Or that they'll sell as many of them as people buy in a limited time period.

Sergeant Centurius was a genuine 'Limited Edition' (although even there, there was no actual figure put out as to how many were cast... just that limited quantities were sent out to stores, for sale on one specific day). So was the original Emperor's Champion... until they re-released him in the 'theoretically limited release but not really' Heroes of the Imperium box. Inquisitor Lorr... was limited only in that you could only buy him at certain events. And that was largely reflected in his price on the secondary market, compared to other more 'actually limited' miniatures.

Centurius was sent out as one model per store to celebrate the opening of their 100th store. Hence his name.
I do not know how they handled selling that one at each.
He is the only model I have ever seen a number associated with.

Based on the numbers I've seen on eBay, he has been re-cast a bit.

There were several Centurious packs sent out to GW stores for the 100th store opening. I remember waiting in line for at the Fairfax store, and getting him in a blisterpack along with a few other people at the time.

He was later re released in the US in the space marine boxed army for a limited time. It was a huge army box, but a lot of them sold purely for the Centurious model. There was even a mold for him in the US, (I think 70076-1 and -2)

At one time I had 6 of them, (I even traded a tyranid dominator for another one in blister pack from the UK). I love that model and used to want to make a squad of him. I've gotten another off ebay, but it wasn't counterfit. (I did end up with a counterfit Bounty Huntress on ebay. It's easy to tell because it's much smaller than the others I have)

I had two of those 'desperado' Inquisitors but lost them in a divorce. Good to see he's back!!

Griever wrote:The Coteaz model is so badass. That's how power armor should look. The Eagle is a but dumb though.

I'll probably pick one of those up even though I never plan on playing Grey Knights.

I agree, love the model but have no idea why an eagle is attached to his arm???

Da Bank wrote:

Griever wrote:The Coteaz model is so badass. That's how power armor should look. The Eagle is a but dumb though.

I'll probably pick one of those up even though I never plan on playing Grey Knights.

I agree, love the model but have no idea why an eagle is attached to his arm???

It's his 'signature' item, alongside that hourglass at his belt.

He was awarded the psyber eagle by the Adeptus Mechanicus, and it allowed him to further focus his psyker powers over distances.

skrulnik wrote:Centurius was sent out as one model per store to celebrate the opening of their 100th store. Hence his name.

No, he wasn't. He was sold to celebrate the opening of the hundredth store, yes... but stores had more than one each.

You might be getting confused with the Emperor's Champion, which was also freely for one day (GW's 25th anniversary) with stores also each receiving a single silver-plated version as a giveaway prize.

Based on the numbers I've seen on eBay, he has been re-cast a bit.

There was a comment from one of the GW studio guys from Games Day a few years back that they were fairly confident that more Centuriuses had been sold on eBay than they actually made to begin with.

If you're buying one off eBay, and he's not in a blister, be wary.

Howard A Treesong wrote:snip

Could. Not. Agree. More.

insaniak wrote:That being said, I think that anyone buying limited editions from GW should also keep in the back of their minds that GW Limited Editions often aren't very... and that there will always be the chance that they model that you buy today as a limited edition may well become widely available, or be re-issued for a later event.

Yeah, but how many years later?

And another thing, is it not good enough to know that you had the model years before anyone else was able to buy it directly? Or does that not make one "special" enough?

Sidstyler wrote:And another thing, is it not good enough to know that you had the model years before anyone else was able to buy it directly? Or does that not make one "special" enough?

That would depend entirely on the individual.

For myself, I don't buy models because they're rare. I buy them because I like them. So the fact that I have them is good enough... I couldn't care less who else also has them.

But for those who do buy them for their rarity, then no, having something before other people can get it and having something that very few people will ever have are two very different things.

Kind of weird prices on the single figures. They still have the 3 pack of Witch Hunter Henchman which includes that Crusader sculpt available for $19.75. But then the individual figs are $10 each. Oh well, doesn't surprise me.

I'm not disappointed that they're re-releasing the Limited Edition Inquisitor, I picked one up back during the original sale and swapped his fist for the sword from the other sculpt. What I'd like is some of the other Henchman packs brought back, like the Acolyte, Mystic, Heirophant. Or the rest of the Henchman released individually as well.

Kanluwen wrote:

Da Bank wrote:

Griever wrote:The Coteaz model is so badass. That's how power armor should look. The Eagle is a but dumb though.

I'll probably pick one of those up even though I never plan on playing Grey Knights.

I agree, love the model but have no idea why an eagle is attached to his arm???

It's his 'signature' item, alongside that hourglass at his belt.

He was awarded the psyber eagle by the Adeptus Mechanicus, and it allowed him to further focus his psyker powers over distances.

Ok, guess that make sense, just seems a little odd.

derek wrote:Kind of weird prices on the single figures. They still have the 3 pack of Witch Hunter Henchman which includes that Crusader sculpt available for $19.75. But then the individual figs are $10 each. Oh well, doesn't surprise me.

I'm not disappointed that they're re-releasing the Limited Edition Inquisitor, I picked one up back during the original sale and swapped his fist for the sword from the other sculpt. What I'd like is some of the other Henchman packs brought back, like the Acolyte, Mystic, Heirophant. Or the rest of the Henchman released individually as well.

I think their twisted reasoning is because the singles that are available were previously only available through the Inquisitor+Retinue boxed set for the Witchhunter.

Kanluwen wrote:

derek wrote:Kind of weird prices on the single figures. They still have the 3 pack of Witch Hunter Henchman which includes that Crusader sculpt available for $19.75. But then the individual figs are $10 each. Oh well, doesn't surprise me.

I'm not disappointed that they're re-releasing the Limited Edition Inquisitor, I picked one up back during the original sale and swapped his fist for the sword from the other sculpt. What I'd like is some of the other Henchman packs brought back, like the Acolyte, Mystic, Heirophant. Or the rest of the Henchman released individually as well.

I think their twisted reasoning is because the singles that are available were previously only available through the Inquisitor+Retinue boxed set for the Witchhunter.

Oh, I was talking about the prices for the ones that were always available as a blister. I don't have a problem with them splitting out the boxes, I wish they'd do it for every box of metal figs they make, even with a $10 price tag.

So Stoked about this! I was always bummed I missed out on this guy! Thanks GW!

BrassScorpion wrote: people who buy it often do so with the expectation that they'll have something special years down the road that they can ask a $100.00 starting bid for on ebay

Fixed that for you.

I think this far less about the mini being "special" and alot more about making a buck.

CT GAMER wrote:I think this far less about the mini being "special" and alot more about making a buck.

Again, that would depend on the individual.

For a lot of collectors, it's awesome to know you have something that's worth a lot, even if you have no intention of ever selling it.

insaniak wrote:For a lot of collectors, it's awesome to know you have something that's worth a lot, even if you have no intention of ever selling it.

I'm the type of collector that will make sure it either sits mint or is painted to such a high standard that it becomes a center-piece for an army... Lorr was one of those that was going to sit mint... but now I may just buy the new one and do conversions... My Epheral Stern and Silas Hand, on the other hand (sic)... I'm wrestling with myself wanting make Stern a center-piece but I hate breaking that set up to do it.

As you said: just depends on the collector. Some would hate that I might even paint the mini, some hate if the mini sits neglected, and others hate if a single bit of dust mars the blister in any form.

Just makes me wonder if they're going to do it to others, too.

Revarien wrote:Just makes me wonder if they're going to do it to others, too.

Well, this isn't the first time... so chances are it won't be the last.


Aside from the 'Limited' models that just wind up being sold for multiple events, the Army Box Black Templars Marshall (that was highly ought after as a limited edition) was eventually brought to standard release in a blister alongside the regular Marine Captain. The 'At Ease' Cadians were sold through the GW website for about a year. The female Commissar, originally a Games Day US piece, was sold through the GW US website for some time. And both the Black Templars Marshall and the original Emperor's Champion were in the Heroes box, which was theoretically a limited release but given the sales might as well have been general release.

Gideon Lorr was sold alongside an Elven hero back then, whom was also a limited release for the occasion, but has since also returned as a regular addition to the range:

In general, I'm thrilled by this change. Back when they were actually releasing these, I never got around to sticking my thumb out to get them. I regretted it quite a bit.

Now I only need to hope they release the limited edition banner bearers from the army boxes...

I'm sorry, I couldn't hear the discussion over the sound of my wallet emptying....

ghosty wrote:In general, I'm thrilled by this change. Back when they were actually releasing these, I never got around to sticking my thumb out to get them. I regretted it quite a bit.

Now I only need to hope they release the limited edition banner bearers from the army boxes...

That would be awesome, yeah!

insaniak wrote:Aside from the 'Limited' models that just wind up being sold for multiple events, the Army Box Black Templars Marshall (that was highly ought after as a limited edition) was eventually brought to standard release in a blister alongside the regular Marine Captain. The 'At Ease' Cadians were sold through the GW website for about a year. The female Commissar, originally a Games Day US piece, was sold through the GW US website for some time. And both the Black Templars Marshall and the original Emperor's Champion were in the Heroes box, which was theoretically a limited release but given the sales might as well have been general release.

To switch systems for a minute, there's also the Bilbo Baggins that was produced as a launch day figure for the Fellowship of the Ring game, and Grima Wormtongue they did for the Two Towers game. They'd both gone on at least Direct Only release by the time Return of the King came around.

To date, they're still the only two LOTR figures I've bought - and I've still got 2 Gideon Lorr's in their blisters. Looks like one might have to come out now.

ColdSadHungry wrote:Lol, now they're selling the Grey Knight brother captain as a lone figure for 12.30! He used to come as standard with the 5 man termie squad which was how much? £25 I think. Pardon me but I think that is a rip off! Just because he's basically available as a HQ and a pretty good one (has the grand strategy) they've whacked the price up.

£35 actually, at least is was when I got it. I'm going to use my model for him as a grandmaster anyway, as it is a nice model.

Jadenim wrote:I'm sorry, I couldn't hear the discussion over the sound of my wallet emptying....

Mine's almost empty already...

But I do like the fact that you now don't have to buy Coteaz with his three useless familiars. The only thing they were good for was cheaply making up the numbers you needed for his retinue. And now familiars have been scrapped anyway I think. Might treat my cherrub as a daemonhost or something.

Makenshi wrote:

*hugs his limited edition chaos sorcerer*

Not my mini but I needed a picture

If anything they should release the female commissar from Gamesday 1998 or whenever it was. That figure is one of the most expensive and hard ones to get out there.

Comment removed. Let's leave that sort of thing for the primary school playground, hmm?

What would also be cool is releasing the special characters that came in the large battle boxes awhile back. I know I'm sad I missed out on being able to get the Necron Lord from the Necron one, and I'm sure there are others who also missed out on whatever their respective armies had.

MadCowCrazy wrote:If anything they should release the female commissar from Gamesday 1998 or whenever it was. That figure is one of the most expensive and hard ones to get out there.

That model was poorly designed and ugly. It would be like re-releasing the Inquisitor Meltface that came with Ephrael Stern. A waste of resources better spent on just redesigning the said models. Or re-releasing better models, like the various Army Box Standard Bearers they have put out over the years.

How about a femme hangman (hangwoman?) looking like this:



Granted, this one is for a kilt-clad regiment of drunk gingers, but still a good example.

fake edit.

Hello female commissar, you look great:



Those would be a whole lot better than the old Commissar "whoops my boobs are popping out" Price.

One thing that's always bothered me about Commissars...

Why are they not clearly wearing armor?

I mean really. You just know someone's going to take a shot at you, so you don't wear armor?

Kanluwen wrote:One thing that's always bothered me about Commissars...

Why are they not clearly wearing armor?

I mean really. You just know someone's going to take a shot at you, so you don't wear armor?

They ARE wearing armor. They're wearing that bullet proof cloth stuff that rich people buy suits made of, duh!

They probably have shield generators in their hats or something. Seems like a 40k Universe-style solution.

No, give them Aquila gorgets, which is not only a handy small refractor field, but also a nice throwback to the much hated German police units of WWII.

If you want a female Commissar, Katya is my favourite:

http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1234

Kanluwen wrote:One thing that's always bothered me about Commissars...

Why are they not clearly wearing armor?

I mean really. You just know someone's going to take a shot at you, so you don't wear armor?

That last is pretty much exactly why they don't wear armour. Their faith in the Emperor is their armour.

Used to have fun with that with a Guard player that I played against regularly for a few years. He made a habit of standing his Commissar out in the open... and I could never kill the little blighter. Shots would miss, or fail to wound... assault units would not make it, or miraculously fail to tell the handle of their swords from the pointy bit. I think in more than a dozen games, I might have killed him once.


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MadCowCrazy wrote:If anything they should release the female commissar from Gamesday 1998 or whenever it was. That figure is one of the most expensive and hard ones to get out there.

That model was poorly designed and ugly.

It's not that bad painted up.

It is overpriced, though. Or at least it was... Largely due to people not actually looking around before bidding on 'Limited' models. At one point, it was selling for $70 to $80 a pop on eBay... while being available (for a heck of a lot less) directly through the GW US website.

insaniak wrote:For a lot of collectors, it's awesome to know you have something that's worth a lot, even if you have no intention of ever selling it.

*raises hand* Right here!

I seem to accumulate the limited models, without even trying. Even ones that were limited originally, but available as general release, later on, or ones that had a set time when they were available.

I have no plans on selling them. I don't care how much money they're worth. What I do like is having something that's rare. It adds a level of mystique to the model. It's fun. Lorr on general release sort of takes away from that IMO.

I'm liking Lorr...I think I'll use him for my Inquisitor.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

insaniak wrote:For a lot of collectors, it's awesome to know you have something that's worth a lot, even if you have no intention of ever selling it.

*raises hand* Right here!

I seem to accumulate the limited models, without even trying. Even ones that were limited originally, but available as general release, later on, or ones that had a set time when they were available.

I have no plans on selling them. I don't care how much money they're worth. What I do like is having something that's rare. It adds a level of mystique to the model. It's fun. Lorr on general release sort of takes away from that IMO.

I've got a few dozen of the Cadians 'At Ease' that I wouldn't sell for any amount of money.

Why?

Because they make a fantastic way to test color schemes

Lorr on general release, however, isn't really that bad.

He wasn't a Games Day model, he wasn't an army box model--he was one that they screwed the pooch on and released late as an event model.

On a side note, I've wanted that Army Box Lictor forever.

I looked for so long to get the Dark Angels Chaptermaster with the combi-plasma--it ended up costing damned near $40 to get off eBay.

Totally worth it though. Such a great model, positively oozing character.

Kanluwen wrote:I looked for so long to get the Dark Angels Chaptermaster with the combi-plasma--it ended up costing damned near $40 to get off eBay.

Totally worth it though. Such a great model, positively oozing character.

He really is. Was going to get the box anyway, he was just an awesome bonus.

I miss those boxes.

Platuan4th wrote:On a side note, I've wanted that Army Box Lictor forever.

Sorry. not selling.

Kanluwen wrote:I looked for so long to get the Dark Angels Chaptermaster with the combi-plasma--it ended up costing damned near $40 to get off eBay.

Friend of mine's been looking for that one for a while now.

Totally forgot about the Dark Angel. Damn, sweet figure.

It is this one, right?

https://www.coolminiornot.com/250586

I seriously have no recollection of this ever coming out.

That's because it's a conversion, Scotty Looks like he used Marshal Helbrecht's body, a powerfist from the Chaos Terminator box, the winged helmet from the DA box, the combi-plasma from the Terminator Librarian, and the backpack+banner are from the DA box too.



That's the one Platuan and I are talking about.

I've wanted that inquisitor with the plasma pistol and bionics since I started 40K.

Damn glad it's coming out in a blister now.

Also good that corteaz and the other Inquisitor lord are now available without buying the boxes. Well I already had the inferno pistol chap. and a crusader from the same box.

Just for completeness, most Inquisitor retinue miniatures (including Sister Hospitaler from Witch Hunters), assassins, acro flagellants, and ecclesiarchy representatives are available again, many in single blisters.

I am happy that Coteaz is now a single model and you dont have to buy the whole squad. I have wanted to paint him for so long.

To be fair I can see why some of the collectors may be a bit bummed out, but I feel more sorry for those who've just bought a mini of eBay for a hiked up price (i've nearly crumbled on Gideon Lorr a couple of times, so I was psyked when he popped up on GW)

The best thing with these blister releases is that we'll end up with a whole selection of truly varied Inquisition retinues, rather than a hundred different variants of the same boxed set...

They should offer the Henchman as one big bundle like they used to. That was great.


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Kroothawk wrote:Just for completeness, most Inquisitor retinue miniatures (including Sister Hospitaler from Witch Hunters), assassins, acro flagellants, and ecclesiarchy representatives are available again, many in single blisters.

I can't seem to find them. Where are they exactly?

H.B.M.C. wrote:They should offer the Henchman as one big bundle like they used to. That was great.


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Kroothawk wrote:Just for completeness, most Inquisitor retinue miniatures (including Sister Hospitaler from Witch Hunters), assassins, acro flagellants, and ecclesiarchy representatives are available again, many in single blisters.

I can't seem to find them. Where are they exactly?

Check the Witch Hunters HQ section.

Witchhunters (Hospitaler, Missionaries: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat440303a&rootCatGameStyle=
Grey Knights (assassins, arco flagellants, Crusaders): http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat1140004&rootCatGameStyle=

Kroothawk wrote:Witchhunters (Hospitaler, Missionaries: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat440303a&rootCatGameStyle=

Wow... I also notice that they took out the 'Inquisitor and Retinue' Witch Hunter box set... and didn't put back the single inquisitor (with brimmed hat, sword and inferno pistol)... so we may have a slight look at the future of the sisters... no inquisition (cept possibly in the elite slot... but that may just be so you can still buy them for your current army).

*EDIT*
OH! Thinking about it, it must be nice for those Dark Heresy players that want to play a sister hospitaler... before, the person that wanted to play a hospitaler and dialogas were pretty much having to spend 40-45$ to get each of their sets (or go in together on it, of course) for their mini.

Revarien wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:Witchhunters (Hospitaler, Missionaries: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat440303a&rootCatGameStyle=

Wow... I also notice that they took out the 'Inquisitor and Retinue' Witch Hunter box set... and didn't put back the single inquisitor (with brimmed hat, sword and inferno pistol)... so we may have a slight look at the future of the sisters... no inquisition (cept possibly in the elite slot... but that may just be so you can still buy them for your current army).

You mean this one that's totally available individually?

Revarien wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:Witchhunters (Hospitaler, Missionaries: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat440303a&rootCatGameStyle=

Wow... I also notice that they took out the 'Inquisitor and Retinue' Witch Hunter box set... and didn't put back the single inquisitor (with brimmed hat, sword and inferno pistol)... so we may have a slight look at the future of the sisters... no inquisition (cept possibly in the elite slot... but that may just be so you can still buy them for your current army).

*EDIT*
OH! Thinking about it, it must be nice for those Dark Heresy players that want to play a sister hospitaler... before, the person that wanted to play a hospitaler and dialogas were pretty much having to spend 40-45$ to get each of their sets (or go in together on it, of course) for their mini.

The Inquisitor you're referring to is in the Grey Knights list.

It's likely that, right now, they're just moving all the Inquisitor models there and having Sisters of Battle making up the 'bulk' of the Witchhunters area.


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Revarien wrote:
EDIT*****Those that don't know: This was prior released as "Limited Edition Inquisitor Lorr" originally****
Inquisitor with Plasma Gun and Power Fist:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1140003&prodId=prod1160014a

have I must.
I'm gonna get that and replace his plasma gun with a flintlock.

Revarien wrote:Wow... I also notice that they took out the 'Inquisitor and Retinue' Witch Hunter box set... and didn't put back the single inquisitor (with brimmed hat, sword and inferno pistol)... so we may have a slight look at the future of the sisters... no inquisition (cept possibly in the elite slot... but that may just be so you can still buy them for your current army).

A Codex Adepta Sororitas with focus on Ecclesiarchy instead of Inquisition is what has been rumoured for about a year.
Positive side: While Grey Knights just get recycled old units, Sororitas have room for a complete bundle of new units!
Have a look at the old 2nd edition Codex Adepta Sororitas for some inspiration.

Kroothawk wrote:
A Codex Adepta Sororitas with focus on Ecclesiarchy instead of Inquisition

Sounds too good to be true...

[crosses fingers]

I'm glad they re-released Lorr. I think he's an uncharacteristically well-proportioned model and the detail is exquisite. Also, riding boots for the win.

Platuan4th wrote:You mean this one that's totally available individually?

Right. What I was getting at, was that they're moving the Inquisition from the HQ slots on the Witch Hunters portion of the website... hopefully in preparation to to make SoB it's own force and not intrinsically inquisitorial. I wouldn't mind if they leave them in an elite slot... for fun army modification sake.

Kroothawk wrote:Have a look at the old 2nd edition Codex Adepta Sororitas for some inspiration.

Believe me, I get a kick out of that codex... the fluff is a LOT darker in it, imo... especially when they were tricked as 'Daughters of the Emperor'.

Speaking of second edition and blisters (OMG ON TOPIC! ), Jacobus is in a blister (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440303a&prodId=prod1090109)... is it my imagination, or was he off the US site before all this?

Check out these knock-off minis from Russia I saw on eBay tonight. The look is right, though it's not GW:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Warhammer-40000-Terminator-Hero-CONVERTED-1-/250788001763?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a642137e3


http://cgi.ebay.com/Warhammer-40000-Terminator-Hero-CONVERTED-2-/250788001728?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a642137c0

These are inspired by Horus Heresy Custodes.

Those are actually really nice. GW should hire those guys and produce something like this for FW.

Scottywan82 wrote:Those are actually really nice. GW should hire those guys and produce something like this for FW.

Nice idea, if they don't sue them instead!

BrassScorpion wrote:

Scottywan82 wrote:Those are actually really nice. GW should hire those guys and produce something like this for FW.

Nice idea, if they don't sue them instead!

No one ever accused GW of using their brain.

Those are nice conversions indeed.

Scottywan82 wrote:Those are actually really nice. GW should hire those guys and produce something like this for FW.

You are well aware that most of the stuff on those models is press moulded shapes and GW bits? The only real sculpting on the thing is the trim, feathers and the dodo headed eagles. The models are recasted conversions at best.

Seems that the previously-limited edition Inquisitor has now been removed from the GW site?

Those are resin recasts of banned Russian custodies miniatures from awhile back; they surface on eBay from time to time. Used to be in pewter.

Valkyrie wrote:Seems that the previously-limited edition Inquisitor has now been removed from the GW site?

Yeah, all trace of him is removed. Goddamnit.

Kanluwen wrote:

Valkyrie wrote:Seems that the previously-limited edition Inquisitor has now been removed from the GW site?

Yeah, all trace of him is removed. Goddamnit.

My thoughts exactly. He's a slippery bugger isn't he.

Lorr has vanished again? Huh, odd that.

edit.

Wow, they even pulled him from the cryday news post.

See, this is why the whiners who had him should have just shut up

It's likely that they were just selling whatever stock was left over.

Yay.. the soulless donkey-caves who were whining about the model losing its value on ebay can rejoice again.

nooo, i was gonna buy him, even though i play Dark eldar, just because the model is so awesome!!

BrookM wrote:Yay.. the soulless donkey-caves who were whining about the model losing its value on ebay can rejoice again.

We will thanks.

BrookM wrote:Yay.. the soulless donkey-caves who were whining about the model losing its value on ebay can rejoice again.

Exactly!

I held off on ordering because I didn't see a release date. Man. Not gonna do that again.

Kanluwen wrote:

BrookM wrote:Yay.. the soulless donkey-caves who were whining about the model losing its value on ebay can rejoice again.

Exactly!

I held off on ordering because I didn't see a release date. Man. Not gonna do that again.

Learned you good!

Yep. Next time something potentially limited gets put up, I'm ordering 5 that day.

Bastardo, was hoping for another, for a conversion I had planned.

Thanks to the whiners who had him and cry and cry and email GW to protest. Now we are screwed :(. Enjoy your money. But I hope someday the karma hits two or three mouths

I had actually planned to order one tomorrow. Tomorrow for feth's sake.

you mean that plasma gun inquisitor awesome guy is gone again?!
aw, man. I was going to get it this weekend. Now I'll have to look in ebay or something... dammit....

Glad I got one when they came out originally.

Oh no. I've already emailed them.

This injustice will not stand.

He will be a general release model, just to screw over every EBayer!

Gave my FLGS owner my order today with him in it... hope it went through... find out Friday! *crosses fingers*

Kanluwen wrote:Yep. Next time something potentially limited gets put up, I'm ordering 5 that day.

Now that is the kind of customer GW likes!

Balance wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Yep. Next time something potentially limited gets put up, I'm ordering 5 that day.

Now that is the kind of customer GW likes!

No, it's the kind of customer everyone else hates

...but GW will like them!

Seems like the miniature was limited

Kanluwen wrote:See, this is why the whiners who had him should have just shut up

H.B.M.C. wins – TECHNICALITY!

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:See, this is why the whiners who had him should have just shut up

H.B.M.C. wins – TECHNICALITY!

What did you win?

ANOTHER PRICE RAISE FOR AUSTRALIA!

VICTORY IS MINE!

- Removed. Feel free to try again when you have found Caps Lock and settled down a little -

Kanluwen wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:See, this is why the whiners who had him should have just shut up

H.B.M.C. wins – TECHNICALITY!

What did you win?

ANOTHER PRICE RAISE FOR AUSTRALIA!

VICTORY IS MINE!

As someone said before, no matter what GW does, we all lose something.

Kanluwen wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:See, this is why the whiners who had him should have just shut up

H.B.M.C. wins – TECHNICALITY!

What did you win?

ANOTHER PRICE RAISE FOR AUSTRALIA!

VICTORY IS MINE!

Except that as HBMC and I constantly point out... we dont buy AUS RRP...

*Your attack and all future attacks miss*

AvatarForm wrote:Except that as HBMC and I constantly point out...

what I've learnt is kan is one of the few people who has selective reading.

Stupid GW is keeping that awesome model "limited" so they can please some no-morals price-gougers happy?

Phil

That's a rather spurious moral judgment. So anyone who purchases a limited edition item because it's collectible, Warhammer or otherwise, has no morals? Amazing what irrational ideas one sees on these forums. I guess everyone who buys collectible action figures, plates, Pez dispensers, Beanie Babies, Magic Cards, classic automobiles, antique furniture, baseball cards, etc. and has ever hung onto them to see their value appreciate before selling them is immoral. Ridiculous beyond words unless one thinks the entire concept of collectibles itself is immoral.

Heh, heh, heh, what a burn. It was limited in the first place and putting it back up for sale was an error. That error has now been corrected as well as ending the ridiculous arguments over what "limited" means. GW is keeping it limited to keep their promise that it was limited when they first sold it.

And the collectibility of the two I own has been restored and all is right with the universe. I'll be painting one soon for my Grey Knights army, which was how I always intended to use the model. Now to decide what to do with the spare that is still new in blister.

Oh, and many thanks to whomever called up and pointed out the error to GW. "We are building a fighting force of extraordinary magnitude. You have our gratitude!" - Kentucky Fried Movie

That's a rather spurious moral judgment. So anyone who purchases a limited edition item because it's collectible, Warhammer or otherwise, has no morals?

No, read what I said: "no-moral price-gougers"

Being a price gouger his having no moral. Buying a LE mini because you like to collect, paint or model is quite correct. I even encourage my gaming group to buy nice minis out of their army range just to practice painting new themes and style.

Buying a LE mini just for it's sheer re-sale value is being scum of the earth. By doing this, your bring nothing to the community. You're just being parasitic to fellow players/modeler. To give you a non-gaming example (as a pharmacist): some pharmaceutical company buy patents to unique medication, jack the price 10% and re-license them. They don't do a single ounce of research (like developer companies), or cut prices by opening the patent (like generic drug companies). They produce nothing, they just profit off other people.

Phil

Gork damnit. I was at the local GW to order one today and it was gone.

Legitimate reason to recast and sell them, folks. Recasters, pease fire up the molds and get them on eBay.

^
illegal.

Doesn't seem particularly professional to re-release an item at a premium price on the website and then suddenly disappear it all again a few days later.

You'd expect that sort of stunt to be carried out by a amateurish set up not a company the size of GW which I would have though is not having decisions about stock and website operations being made on the fly without any actual planning.

You clearly don't know GW then.

*Takes cover*

boreas wrote:

That's a rather spurious moral judgment. So anyone who purchases a limited edition item because it's collectible, Warhammer or otherwise, has no morals?

No, read what I said: "no-moral price-gougers"

Being a price gouger his having no moral. Buying a LE mini because you like to collect, paint or model is quite correct. I even encourage my gaming group to buy nice minis out of their army range just to practice painting new themes and style.

Buying a LE mini just for it's sheer re-sale value is being scum of the earth. By doing this, your bring nothing to the community. You're just being parasitic to fellow players/modeler. To give you a non-gaming example (as a pharmacist): some pharmaceutical company buy patents to unique medication, jack the price 10% and re-license them. They don't do a single ounce of research (like developer companies), or cut prices by opening the patent (like generic drug companies). They produce nothing, they just profit off other people.

Phil

Collectible pricing is driven by what collectors want to pay for whatever they are collecting, there is no manipulation involved. Price gouging (as I know it) is implying that someone is being greedy because of a special need or circumstance. Profiting from luxury items is very different then increasing food and gas prices when a disaster occurrs, which is where the average person would see true price gouging.

I don't even think your example is price gouging, unless the company did so in a time of crisis for the sole reason of taking advantage(profit) of increased demand.

Got a response today so here it is:

Hey there,



Thanks for writing in to us, although I don’t have great news for you. You were right that you did see the Inquisitor with Power Fist and Plasma Pistol up on the web-site recently. He was accidentally put on there late last week, but he was originally a limited edition model from way back in 2004 when the Witch Hunters codex was originally released. No more of him were going to be made, so he was taken down from our site. We’re really sorry about the confusion that this has caused.



Sorry we couldn’t be any more help than this.



Dave Swan

Customer Services Manager

So in summation:
He wasn't for sale. It was an accident.

dagnabbit!
and they STILL haven't fixed that leman-russ/sauron thing...

Well isn't that dandy.

what leman-russ sauron thing?

Kanluwen wrote:Got a response today so here it is:

Hey there,



Thanks for writing in to us, although I don’t have great news for you. You were right that you did see the Inquisitor with Power Fist and Plasma Pistol up on the web-site recently. He was accidentally put on there late last week, but he was originally a limited edition model from way back in 2004 when the Witch Hunters codex was originally released. No more of him were going to be made, so he was taken down from our site. We’re really sorry about the confusion that this has caused.



Sorry we couldn’t be any more help than this.



Dave Swan

Customer Services Manager

So in summation:
He wasn't for sale. It was an accident.

Riiiiiiight and Justin Bieber is a boy.

This is them feeding on our despair.

BrookM wrote:Riiiiiiight and Justin Bieber is a boy.

do you HAVE to drag him/her/it up? I thought this was the ONE place on the internet that isn't ranting/raving about it.

Kanluwen wrote:Got a response today so here it is:

Hey there,



Thanks for writing in to us, although I don’t have great news for you. You were right that you did see the Inquisitor with Power Fist and Plasma Pistol up on the web-site recently. He was accidentally put on there late last week, but he was originally a limited edition model from way back in 2004 when the Witch Hunters codex was originally released. No more of him were going to be made, so he was taken down from our site. We’re really sorry about the confusion that this has caused.



Sorry we couldn’t be any more help than this.



Dave Swan

Customer Services Manager

So in summation:
He wasn't for sale. It was an accident.

Riiiight. So someone just dug out pictures of a model from 7 years ago and put them up on the site for a few days at the funny old price of £8.20 "by accident".

Would be interesting to know if anyone who bought the figure in that small window of opportunity receive it.

Howard A Treesong wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Got a response today so here it is:

Hey there,



Thanks for writing in to us, although I don’t have great news for you. You were right that you did see the Inquisitor with Power Fist and Plasma Pistol up on the web-site recently. He was accidentally put on there late last week, but he was originally a limited edition model from way back in 2004 when the Witch Hunters codex was originally released. No more of him were going to be made, so he was taken down from our site. We’re really sorry about the confusion that this has caused.



Sorry we couldn’t be any more help than this.



Dave Swan

Customer Services Manager

So in summation:
He wasn't for sale. It was an accident.

Riiiight. So someone just dug out pictures of a model from 7 years ago and put them up on the site for a few days at the funny old price of £8.20 "by accident".

Would be interesting to know if anyone who bought the figure in that small window of opportunity receive it.

Chances are orders will be cancelled and refunds given to those.

Waiting for the official announcement:
"Sorry, the Jokaeiro was accidently put up in the Grey Knights section. This is of course wrong, as the Imperium in general and the Inquisition especially hate Xenos and would never field an army of them. They are of course a future release for Tau Empire. Sorry for the confusion."

BrookM wrote:

Howard A Treesong wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Got a response today so here it is:

Hey there,



Thanks for writing in to us, although I don’t have great news for you. You were right that you did see the Inquisitor with Power Fist and Plasma Pistol up on the web-site recently. He was accidentally put on there late last week, but he was originally a limited edition model from way back in 2004 when the Witch Hunters codex was originally released. No more of him were going to be made, so he was taken down from our site. We’re really sorry about the confusion that this has caused.



Sorry we couldn’t be any more help than this.



Dave Swan

Customer Services Manager

So in summation:
He wasn't for sale. It was an accident.

Riiiight. So someone just dug out pictures of a model from 7 years ago and put them up on the site for a few days at the funny old price of £8.20 "by accident".

Would be interesting to know if anyone who bought the figure in that small window of opportunity receive it.

Chances are orders will be cancelled and refunds given to those.

Considering it was removed from my shopping cart, I think that's most likely.

Here's an interesting twist...

In the latest WD, which arrived today, this model is also shown as available to order at the back of the mag...

Double Cross!

Lorr just disappeared from GW website...

Days ago, yes.

Slinky wrote:Here's an interesting twist...

In the latest WD, which arrived today, this model is also shown as available to order at the back of the mag...

seriously?!
Kan, you should email that gu back...surely they can't make the same mistake twice?
a few days apart?
with the same model?
on computer and magazine?
and survive editing?

White Dwarfs are printed months in advance.

The mistake was likely in WD first, then someone didn't catch it and it made it into the website.

GOD DAMMIT!

Looks like I am paying $60 on ebay! yayayayay!

Although...


With minimal chopping, this guy could closely resemble him. It seems I have found my Rad + Psychotroke grenade lobber!

hmm...


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Just saw the plasma gun's flintlock-like handle...lol...

Both models share the same basic model, but with different gubbins added.

... and I always preferred the unlimited one (also more or less usable for Fantasy).

But for everyone else, there is a slight hope. Frgt/10 over at Warseer wrote:

regarding Lorr:

he IS getting re-released as part of the GK release. I've had this confirmed numerous times from a few people now.
he was also never a limited edition model that they destroyed the molds for/found more of in the warehouse/etc. rather just a model that was only released in a certain window and then never again (until now)

Gutted, was hoping to get one when they were released as quickly sold mine on ebay when I saw it was coming out. Doubly gutted and furious at GW ><

Vermillion wrote:Gutted, was hoping to get one when they were released as quickly sold mine on ebay when I saw it was coming out. Doubly gutted and furious at GW ><

There is justice in the world.

Dammit, I got ninja'd...

They kept Coteaz and the Flame Rifle guy, but not the cowboy plasma dude. Come on GW, seriously? You have to mess with me like that? Not cool.

Kirbinator wrote:They kept Coteaz and the Flame Rifle guy, but not the cowboy plasma dude. Come on GW, seriously? You have to mess with me like that? Not cool.

Because "Coteaz and the Flame Rifle guy" were standard, full production run models.

The "cowboy plasma dude" wasn't.

PR code models were "Promotional" models. Inquisitor = PR 18

very nice

Its very strange, all the hullabaloo surrounding this model. Like many others, I was excited to see it up on the website and was ready to order it, but it was taken down before I could actually place the order in.

HOWEVER.

I was over at GW today, and saw the miniature listed in the April White Dwarf. I noted to the store manager that it was odd, given that the model was out-of-production, and he nodded and commisserated with me because, lets face it, it looks friggin AWESOME.

Well, after the conversation I went looking around the Space Marines rack of blisters, trying to find a Librarian for my upcoming Grey Knights army. I didn't find a librarian.

...I found a blister pack labeled "Inquisitor with Plasma Gun & Powerfist" for $16.50 CDN. No word of a lie. Me, the manager, and the other guy at the store at the time damn near gak ourselves. The manager did not have a clue how it had gotten there; it wasn't a special order for a customer, and it wasn't something that he remembered ordering in or shelving. Its barcode wasn't even in the computer system.

Well, either way I snatched that thing up. Put it together tonight, along with the Inferno Pistol/Power Sword Inquisitor I ordered from the site. Although, I admit, I swapped out the sword and gauntlet between the models.

They're...really functionally the same model. Some details are different, but even the hats are similar, and the arms are interchangeable. Its kinda awesome.

So...how did it get there? Not a clue. It adds one more facet to the mystery, I suppose. Are there these blisters floating around in other GW stores? Was there a limited clearance from the warehouse of a few they still had in stock? Not sure we'll ever get an answer.

EDIT: Just thought to mention: The blister it was packed in was the standard 40k style they're using now, NOT the old one that Brass Scorpion posted. Will happily post a picture if there is doubt...this is kinda weird.

I didn't find a librarian.

There's a good reason for that. See my thread here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/355333.page

BrassScorpion wrote:There's a good reason for that. See my thread here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/355333.page

Cheers! (I guess it makes sense, really, the stores can only stock so many blisters at a time)

According to UPS, the order I managed to put in for said Inquisitor with plasmagun and powerfist is supposed to arrive in store today; hopefully, I'll be getting my hands on the model I did order and not the one with flamer.

IMO, this was most likely a planned release but once the mini showed up on the store they must have received some flak from people who paid a premium for the mini before and decided, for some reason, to pull it back out.

Btw, order was placed and paid for in store on March 14th, if anyone wonders how I managed to slip it in without the item being removed from my basket...

+ EDIT : Item just arrived in store today and IS a copy of the Inquisitor with plasmagun and powerfist, as ordered. Guess GW couldn't just cancel my order because it had already been paid for in store.

In case anyone is interested / knows what this could refer to, production sticker at the back shows (Can anyone confirm whether this was a new batch with this?) :
_ Store 99060107061
INQUISITOR WITH PLASMA GUN & POWERFIST
Warehouse 9906010706101
Batch: 866932 Made in UK

Player not found wrote:In case anyone is interested / knows what this could refer to, production sticker at the back shows (Can anyone confirm whether this was a new batch with this?) :
_ Store 99060107061
INQUISITOR WITH PLASMA GUN & POWERFIST
Warehouse 9906010706101
Batch: 866932 Made in UK

Its the same on the back of mine. I'm wondering if either this was a repackaging of some old models (as in they had some left over), or if they did a limited recast and managed to sell out faster than expected.

The model DOES appear in the new White Dwarf as part of the line, so...yeah. The mystery continues, but I *AM* glad that you were able to get it. Its a freakin' sweet miniature.

Derekthebard wrote:

Player not found wrote:In case anyone is interested / knows what this could refer to, production sticker at the back shows (Can anyone confirm whether this was a new batch with this?) :
_ Store 99060107061
INQUISITOR WITH PLASMA GUN & POWERFIST
Warehouse 9906010706101
Batch: 866932 Made in UK

Its the same on the back of mine. I'm wondering if either this was a repackaging of some old models (as in they had some left over), or if they did a limited recast and managed to sell out faster than expected.

The model DOES appear in the new White Dwarf as part of the line, so...yeah. The mystery continues, but I *AM* glad that you were able to get it. Its a freakin' sweet miniature.

I'd have been glad If I could have got it *grumble grumble*

I finally got around to painting mine to go with the new plastic Grey Knights I have ordered...



as well as this other mini I've had for years...