Heh, first time I've actually dropped news before anyone else
To celebrate the Beasts of War highlight week of Infinity, they have not only released a new website, but are releasing starter armies this week only for 50% off. Now this isn't the typical GW crud crap starter that you now have to go out and buy all the good models, but rather the armies include the beautiful TAG models and put you straight into the standard gameplay total of points.
Massive kudos to Corvus Belli on this one, though there is a major downside. Depending on where you live, the shipping from Spain is really rough. At 50% off though it still makes it well worth it if you were on the fence about trying them out.
If you haven't looked into Infinity before it's a skirmish lvl game.l. The rules are free, the list builder is free, and the game doesn't get nearly the credit it deserves.
See below for the images, mine broke (Thanks Bobba!)
Just when I thought I could resist buying into Infinity... my poor wallet
All kidding aside, this seems like a great deal, the only thing that gives me pause is that their web-store really doesn't seem oriented towards buyers in the USA.
i think it's a good, no, Great deal but i don't think i like the models as much as my curent 40k ones. it just never seems to appeal to me as much as the 40k ones.. i will still watch Beasts of war's infinity week because they worked hard on that table, and it looks good! (also it will help thier income - more views -> more money from google ads -> more money for BoW -> continued good videos/ more models/ more pay for the dudes!).
i want to ask some things though:
is this a normal sized army?
how well are the armies in the pictures painted in comparison to other peoples armies?
anyway, looks like a good game for some and it's a great deal but i think i like 40k more for the sheer scale and more realism.
p.s - i posted something like this on youtube and i just don't see why i got hate messages.... they were calling me a GW fanboy and biased, but i don't see what the problem is with saying No thanks, i'm good, i don't feel like starting an infinity army. some people.... god, they are so easily inflamed....
I'm not a fan of the new CS website though. It's even slower than the old one - and the army deals don't do anyone outside of Europe any big favours (and I thought shipping from the US was extortionate).
That said, I have all of the models in the starters for my armies that are in those boxes anyway, and most of that was second hand, so I think, even with that 50%, I'm still ahead.
lord_blackfang wrote:So the standard price for these is 90 euro for a 10-model starter. Wow. Just wow.
These are not starters... the starters have 6 minis and are 30euro at discount stores... these are ARMIES sets... your basically done with these... PP armies cost around 200 or more euros I find infinity quite afordable...
Ops!
I did not saw this thread when I was making a new thread with the exact same information, sorry.
By the way, let me put here these images:
ALEPH ARMY PACK 42,25€ -Aleph Starter Pack (Box with 6 miniatures: 3 Dakini (Combi Rifle), 1 Deva (Combi Rifle), 1 Naga (Hacker), 1 Asura (Multi Rifle))
-Marut (Box with 1 miniature: Marut TAG)
-Nagas (Blister with 1 miniature: Naga Sniper)
-Devas Functionaries (Blister with 1 miniature: 1 Devas Functionaries Spitfire)
Normal price: 84,50€ Save 42,25€!
PANOCEANIA ARMY PACK 44,25€ PanOceania Starter Pack (Box with 6 miniatures: 4 Fusiliers (Combi Rifle), 1 Croc Men (Combi Rifle), 1 Orc Troop (Multi-Rifle))
-Cutter (box with 1 miniature: 1 Cutter (TAG))
-Akalis Sikh Commandos (Blister with 2 miniatures: 1 Akal (Combi Rifle) and 1 Akal (HMG))
-Knights of Santiago Spitfire (Blister with 1 miniature: Knights of Santiago (Spitfire, APCCW))
Normal price: 88,50€ Save 44,25€!
YU JING ARMY PACK 38,85€ -Yu Jing Starter Pack (Box with 6 miniatures: 3 Zhanshi (Combi Rifle), 1 Domaru (Boarding Shotgun), 1 Shang Ji (Combi Rifle, Light FT), 1 Celestial Guard (Combi Rifle))
-Aragoto Senkenbutai (Box with 2 motos + 2 miniatures: Aragoto Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun and Aragoto Spitfire)
-Oniwaban (Blister with 1 miniature: Oniwaban Boarding Shotgun)
-Hsien (Blister with 1 miniature: Hsien (Multi Rifle))
Normal price: 77,75€ Save 38,90€!
ARIADNA ARMY PACK 36,85€ -Ariadna Starter Pack (box with 6 miniatures: 3 Line Kazaks (Rifle), 1 3rd Highlander Grey Rifles (2 Light Shotguns), 1 Chasseur (Rifle, Light Flamethrower), 1 Veteran Kazak (T2 Rifle))
-Equipe Mirage-5 (Box with 2 miniatures: Margot (AP Rifle + Light GL) and Duroc (2 Chain Rifles)
-Tankhunter Autocannon (Blister with 1 miniature: TankHunter (Autocannon))
-Zouaves Sniper (Blister with 1 miniature: Zouave (Sapper – Sniper))
Normal price: 73,75€ Save 36,90€!
NOMAD ARMY PACK 43,75€ -Nomads Starter Pack (Box with 6 miniatures: 3 Alguaciles (Combi Rifle), 1 Securitate (Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun), 1 Mobile Brigada (Multi Rifle + Light FT), 1 Zero (Combi Rifle))
-Szalamandra Squadron (Box with 1 miniature: 1 Szalamandra Squadron (TAG))
-Interventor (Blister with 1 miniature: 1 Interventor (Hacker))
-Lunokhod Sputniks (Blister with 3 miniatures: Lunokhod + 2 CrazyKoalas (3 bases enclosed))
Normal price: 87,50€ Save 43,75€!
HAQQISLAM ARMY PACK 42,25€ -Haqqislam Starter Pack (Box with 6 miniatures:
3 Ghulam Infantry (Rifle + Light Shotgun), 1 Naffatun (Rifle + Light Flamethrower), 1 Hunzakut (Sniper), 1 Janissaire (AP Rifle))
-Maghariba Guard (Box with 1 miniature: 1 Maghariba Guard (TAG)) Base not enclosed.
-Hassassin Lasiqs Sniper (Blister with 1 miniature: Hassassin Lasiqs (Viral Sniper))
-Hassassin Fiday (Blister with 1 miniature: Hassassin Fiday (Boarding Shotgun))
Normal price: 84,50€ Save 42,25€!
COMBINED ARMY PACK 47,85€ -Combined Army Starter Pack (Box with 6 miniatures: 3 Morats Vanguard Infantry (Combi Rifle), 1 The Charontid (Plasma Rifle), 1 Daturazi Witch Soldier (Combi Rifle), 1 Malignos (Combi Rifle))
-Caskuda (Box with 1 miniature: Caskuda (TAG) with acetate layer wings)
-Speculo Killer (Blister with 1 miniature: Speculo Killer (Monofilament CCW, Combi Rifle))
-Rasyat (Blister with 1 miniature: 1 Rasyat (Combi Rifle)
Normal price: 95,75€ Save 47,90€!
BOOKS 2x1 SPECIAL OFFER
Infinity rulebook and Human Sphere expansion book.
Only for: 35€!
It's a shame that this is running until the end of the week, if not I'd ask a box or two for my birthday, but it's maybe for the best. Even more unpainted minis otherwise.
lord_blackfang wrote:So the standard price for these is 90 euro for a 10-model starter. Wow. Just wow.
These are not starters... the starters have 6 minis and are 30euro at discount stores... these are ARMIES sets... your basically done with these... PP armies cost around 200 or more euros I find infinity quite afordable...
So you're reversing your argument about price being tied to the amount of material used, not game value? Sure, a PP army will cost 3 times as much... but it will have, like, 10 times the metal.
lord_blackfang wrote:So the standard price for these is 90 euro for a 10-model starter. Wow. Just wow.
These are not starters... the starters have 6 minis and are 30euro at discount stores... these are ARMIES sets... your basically done with these... PP armies cost around 200 or more euros I find infinity quite afordable...
So you're reversing your argument about price being tied to the amount of material used, not game value? Sure, a PP army will cost 3 times as much... but it will have, like, 10 times the metal.
No, Im just pointing out, since you seem a bit confused, the difference of a starter and a full army! And almost all these deals have 1 huge metal mini in them, have you handled say a cascuda on combined deal or other big metal infinity beasts? I have and they are Huge chunks of metal...
A bit of an advice mate... if you have problems understanding my arguments on other threads please resolve them by yourself and dont try to snipe me or drag silly points to other threads... its just that I'm not that interested in feeding your incapacity to digesting diferent opinions...
I will indulge you one last time... yes metal wise you get more in 200 euros PP than on 90euros on Infinity no science there. for 200 euros on PP and infinity you get probably about the same, both seem a fair way to establish prices since costs of material are included... DUH.
In your reality if 60ishplus mm Cascuda game wise is cheap it should be cheaper money wise than a 28mm general... makes totally sense to me
NAVARRO wrote:No, Im just pointing out, since you seem a bit confused, the difference of a starter and a full army!
What does it matter if it's a full army? Only the weight of metal matters. And I get a lot more metal from PP for 90 euro.
its just that I'm not that interested in feeding your incapacity to digesting diferent opinions...
IIRC, you were the one saying "I don't get it" every time I tried to explain my point. I understand your position just fine, thank you.
I will indulge you one last time... yes metal wise you get more in 200 euros PP than on 90euros on Infinity no science there. for 200 euros on PP and infinity you get probably about the same,
For 90 euro I can get a starter and almost two full units from PP. That's twice as many models, including big stuff.
The 50% discount just about brings Infinity into the realm of reasonable prices, that's all I'm saying.
Noisy_Marine wrote:It seems like a good deal even with the shipping ... Must resist buying Aleph and/or Combined! Quick! Someone tell what a bad deal this is!
Its a bad deal, I tell you specially those aleph! I hate them so much, not going to buy them!
Lets hope I'm also convinced
Damn Kilkrazy teasing me... argh its so tempting!
Lord_blackfang get over it man Im not interested in never ending replays
Hm. I get paid on Friday, and I've been wanting to start Infinity. I inherited a huge Nomads collection, but I much prefer the look of Aleph...we'll see. Shipping to the US sounds atrocious, so it might actually be cheaper for me to buy them from Warstore, when all is said and done (no 50% off, but no huge shipping bill).
I must admit that one of these packs is very tempting, Infinity has always interested me. But I've just preordered Mantic's Dwarf Kings Hold and I'm working on a Sorylian Fleet for Firestorm Amada so I really can't afford to get into another game.
Oh well maybe next time they do some sort of bundle deal or have a sale I might pick up a couple of armies and the rule book.
Looks like they are having problems with their new website.
No problem with the online store, different server.
IMHO the best Army pack is the ALEPH because they are more recent miniatures. Also, the Haqqislam starter pack is from 2010 so, it also a very good deal.
EDIT:
Ok, now... this is a very intelligent manouver... we are being attacked now in different fronts...
BEASTS OF WAR now release Quickstart Rules for Infinity:
I guess this would also be supported with videos. Nice move.
Infinity has heaps of great models across their range, but aside from the deep savings, I think I'm going to pass on this (damn it). Why can their Haqqislam box feature some of the nicer models ?!
NAVARRO wrote:Im struggling here... Jump also on aleph or not?
Same question here... I'll do the math later, and if the savings are there...I'm taking the plunge!
Thanks for posting this!
I did the math and since shipping from spain to portugal is only 8 euro for aleph pack its some awesome savings... even from discount stores i save something around 20 euro.
lord_blackfang wrote:So the standard price for these is 90 euro for a 10-model starter. Wow. Just wow.
Something is very off here: I just checked the Warstore (since I also found the CB website a bit annoying), and there is no way the original price is 90 euros. Unless the pricing in US dollars is insanely cheaper then the euro price (MSRP);
Aleph starter: ($46.50) $37.99, listed on CB website at 42.25 euro.
Combine: ($46.55) $37.99, 47.85 euro on CB, so on and so forth...
So, the prices on the CB website are before discount? Just insanely jacked up when you buy in euros?
Meh, if this is the case, no reason not to just buy from the Warstore if you're in the US (I shudder to imagine what shipping from Spain would be), but something is clearly off here...
I've only got about 4 games under my belt so far, but man is it fun. It's kinda refreshing from 40k that there really isn't any useless models, even the basic 9 point guys (the cheerleaders lol) can even pull their weight with lookout on the rear and volume fire hoping for criticals vs that TAG jumping down your throat.
Just a heads up that these are NOT the starter packs that are typically like 50 bucks, there are full armies for the game. You are looking at a less then $100 US (depending on where you live) for a full army in game, which yes may be few models overall but they are absolutely gorgeous and well worth the $. Not trying to Fanboi them, just that impressed with this marketing push for the game.
BobbaFett wrote:Ehm... That is not true... the CB online store is worlwide.
Why the hell are they not going to ship to the richest country in the world?
Well, when I go to put in Invoice Order address like it mandates I do, the list of countries does not include USA. Unless I overlooked it twice, which is certainly possible.
lord_blackfang wrote:So the standard price for these is 90 euro for a 10-model starter. Wow. Just wow.
Something is very off here: I just checked the Warstore (since I also found the CB website a bit annoying), and there is no way the original price is 90 euros. Unless the pricing in US dollars is insanely cheaper then the euro price (MSRP);
Aleph starter: ($46.50) $37.99, listed on CB website at 42.25 euro.
Combine: ($46.55) $37.99, 47.85 euro on CB, so on and so forth...
So, the prices on the CB website are before discount? Just insanely jacked up when you buy in euros?
Meh, if this is the case, no reason not to just buy from the Warstore if you're in the US (I shudder to imagine what shipping from Spain would be), but something is clearly off here...
You are looking at a starter pack vs these one time starter armies. Starter ~165 vs Starter Army (this deal) 300+ points of ouch that's gonna hurt.
Kirb - that threw me off too, scroll down to practically the very bottom and there is another list of countries. If memory serves right it's near the very bottom of the list.
lord_blackfang wrote:So the standard price for these is 90 euro for a 10-model starter. Wow. Just wow.
Something is very off here: I just checked the Warstore (since I also found the CB website a bit annoying), and there is no way the original price is 90 euros. Unless the pricing in US dollars is insanely cheaper then the euro price (MSRP);
Aleph starter: ($46.50) $37.99, listed on CB website at 42.25 euro.
Combine: ($46.55) $37.99, 47.85 euro on CB, so on and so forth...
So, the prices on the CB website are before discount? Just insanely jacked up when you buy in euros?
Meh, if this is the case, no reason not to just buy from the Warstore if you're in the US (I shudder to imagine what shipping from Spain would be), but something is clearly off here...
I think you are confusing the Starter packs with this Army packs. The Starters are boxes with 6 infantry minis. This Army packs include 1 Starter and some blisters. Some of this packs even have TAGs (the equivalent for dreadnoughts).
Last week I paid about $100 for a Shasvastii army, and now I'm supposed to drop less than $100 more to get a buttload more Infinity? Well ... if I don't have to get two root canals on Wednesday I might be in
Btw for you guys starting make sure you check out the BeastofWar video walk throughs. While being about 99% accurate so far, they have done a fantastic job of breaking down the game to serious baby steps. They even did up that starter rules kit PDF that is worth the artwork alone in a download for free.
lord_blackfang wrote:So the standard price for these is 90 euro for a 10-model starter. Wow. Just wow.
Something is very off here: I just checked the Warstore (since I also found the CB website a bit annoying), and there is no way the original price is 90 euros. Unless the pricing in US dollars is insanely cheaper then the euro price (MSRP);
Aleph starter: ($46.50) $37.99, listed on CB website at 42.25 euro.
Combine: ($46.55) $37.99, 47.85 euro on CB, so on and so forth...
So, the prices on the CB website are before discount? Just insanely jacked up when you buy in euros?
Meh, if this is the case, no reason not to just buy from the Warstore if you're in the US (I shudder to imagine what shipping from Spain would be), but something is clearly off here...
I think you are confusing the Starter packs with this Army packs. The Starters are boxes with 6 infantry minis. This Army packs include 1 Starter and some blisters. Some of this packs even have TAGs (the equivalent for dreadnoughts).
Yup, I see now. I gotta be honest, I'd rather have a better buy on the starter, but that's me coming at it as someone that a) doesn't know the rules, and b) doesn't have the cash to drop on a full size army at the moment, but wouldn't mind a cheap starter....
Oh well, Beasts of War has a whole week to convince me otherwise, hehe.
One thing I did notice is that most of the value seems to be in the TAG models.
BobbaFett wrote:Ehm... That is not true... the CB online store is worlwide.
Why the hell are they not going to ship to the richest country in the world?
Well, when I go to put in Invoice Order address like it mandates I do, the list of countries does not include USA. Unless I overlooked it twice, which is certainly possible.
Ok, I don´t want to sound rude, so, please, do not misinterpretate this.
But here is the USA in CB Online Store.
It is not the most easy-friendly online store I had visited, but they do ship to USA.
lord_blackfang wrote:So the standard price for these is 90 euro for a 10-model starter. Wow. Just wow.
These are not starters... the starters have 6 minis and are 30euro at discount stores... these are ARMIES sets... your basically done with these... PP armies cost around 200 or more euros I find infinity quite afordable...
In my opinion 90 euro is still a lot of money to drop on 10 figures. Makes GW figures look cheap.
lord_blackfang wrote:So the standard price for these is 90 euro for a 10-model starter. Wow. Just wow.
These are not starters... the starters have 6 minis and are 30euro at discount stores... these are ARMIES sets... your basically done with these... PP armies cost around 200 or more euros I find infinity quite afordable...
In my opinion 90 euro is still a lot of money to drop on 10 figures. Makes GW figures look cheap.
90 dollars in figures to play a full army game of Infinity. How many models does it take to play 40k? How many people actually take the time to paint and full assemble said models for 40k?
lord_blackfang wrote:So the standard price for these is 90 euro for a 10-model starter. Wow. Just wow.
These are not starters... the starters have 6 minis and are 30euro at discount stores... these are ARMIES sets... your basically done with these... PP armies cost around 200 or more euros I find infinity quite afordable...
In my opinion 90 euro is still a lot of money to drop on 10 figures. Makes GW figures look cheap.
Oh really? lets make some quick math?
Have you actually compared metal to metal blister to blister right?
GWUK ( the cheapest) metal individual blisters are like between 8-12 pounds and something equivalent in size to the big beasts on this box of infinity say... greater demons are like 36pounds... so 9x of THE CHEAPEST metal blister and one box of a metal big fella runs you a totall of 108 pounds thats like 124 euros ( going for cheapest UK prices and cheapest crappy metal blisters) hardly 90 euros!!!
Big diference is the quality you get on infinity and the fact your army is finished! with 90euro!...
Okay, those two books they are offering up for 50% off, one is the rulebook and the other a background book or something? The site is off-line for me right now so I can't check.
Yeah the site is probably getting hammered right about now. Their servers have never been the greatest and the combo of the new site + the rush.. we prob killed it lol.
To answer your question it's the 2nd edition rule book at the human sphere additional rules (expansion pretty much). Remember the rules are a free download from their site but I believe the books have a pile of artwork and fluff.
BrookM wrote:Okay, those two books they are offering up for 50% off, one is the rulebook and the other a background book or something? The site is off-line for me right now so I can't check.
The books are the Rulebook (2nd ed) and the Human Sphere expansion. Both books have rules, background and army lists. Both sets of rules and army lists can be downloaded from their website. The difference is that while the Rulebook contains the main rules and army lists, the Human Sphere expansion contains newer rules for Sectorial armies, the background and army list for ALEPH (a new faction introduced in this book), updates for the army lists in the main Rulebook, and the Sectorial armies lists.
The Sectorial armies are alternative lists wich are more specialized than the normal lists. For example, instead of using the regular army list of Ariadna (wich has troops from Scotland, France, Russia and USA), you can build a list of Caledonians or Merovingians. This means you can concentrate in using only Scotish or only French troops. You have less options to choose from, but in the other hand, some minis that were limited for example to one per army won't have that limit in their Sectorial. Depending on the mini you could take up to 4. With this rules you can build up a Knights army, instead of the standard Pano army.
I am curious about Infinity- lots of great sculpts. Did they fix the dense and boring background in the book? I thought the translation of the first edition wasn't the greatest. Great ideas in there, though.
BlueDagger wrote:90 dollars in figures to play a full army game of Infinity. How many models does it take to play 40k? How many people actually take the time to paint and full assemble said models for 40k?
That is a bull argument. If you want to compare apples to apples, I can get a Necromunda gang (8 dudes) for £20.50 retail.
CyRevenant wrote:This seems like pretty good value, and the rules look interesting.
I'm tempted to pick up either PanOceania or Ariadna if I can find someone to play against.
This is my predicament as well... most all folks around here play Warmachine/Hordes or 40K/WHFB. I'd be stuck with no one to play with... and the shop I used to go to up in the Bay Area doesn't play as much Infinity as they did before.
Still the models would just be fun to work on.
EDIT: Hmmmm... maybe I'll get two armies... one for me and one for an opponent... If I could find one.
Monk1junk1 wrote:
anyway, looks like a good game for some and it's a great deal but i think i like 40k more for the sheer scale and more realism.
p.s - i posted something like this on youtube and i just don't see why i got hate messages.... they were calling me a GW fanboy and biased, but i don't see what the problem is with saying No thanks, i'm good, i don't feel like starting an infinity army. some people.... god, they are so easily inflamed....
I have to say, I have no reason to flame you on most of your statement, afterall, what one person likes is their affair, nobody can tell you to like something over something else. The only issue I have is with the part of your statement highlighted in BOLD!!
Now, when considering a Sci Fi game, the whole point of "realism" is slightly strange, Lascannons, Nano engineering? there's simply no bench mark in our current frame of science by which to judge what is closer in to reality.....however, there are some things that you would assume have improved over time, and one of those things may well be combat tactics......accusing Infinity of being less "realistic" than WH40K, suggests to me that either you have never read anything about modern or historical warfare or you are naive regarding all things military.....I'm not trying to insult you, my wife and many of my friends who have no interest in military matters would fall into this catagory as well.
20 euros is kind of high... 8 euros for one set here... even if i wanted to help you out I doubt that shipping from here to you is much less than 12 euros ( depends on weight) ( and i only ship stuff signed for)... let me check what happens to shipping from corvus if i order a set for you... a sec.
well for 2 sets the store charges me 11.90euros shipping so yeah I think that shipping to you is less than 16euros... how much less I have no idea witout weight. Maybe you would save 4 or 5 euros or so, dunno.
Our folks here are pooling together orders to split the shipping costs and make things a lot cheaper.
Also careful on the intro video from BoW there is a few mistakes but overall they explained everything very well. That video is the 40k equivalent of necrons standing in front of FNP blood angels and simply roll hit/wound/armor save without any special rules lol.
CyRevenant wrote:This seems like pretty good value, and the rules look interesting.
I'm tempted to pick up either PanOceania or Ariadna if I can find someone to play against.
I don't understand this mentality.
If you've not heard of anyone playing locally: just be a trendsetter. Pick up the rulebooks and two small forces(that YOU like, no less) and arrange a few demo games.
lord_blackfang wrote:So the standard price for these is 90 euro for a 10-model starter. Wow. Just wow.
These are not starters... the starters have 6 minis and are 30euro at discount stores... these are ARMIES sets... your basically done with these... PP armies cost around 200 or more euros I find infinity quite afordable...
In my opinion 90 euro is still a lot of money to drop on 10 figures. Makes GW figures look cheap.
90 dollars in figures to play a full army game of Infinity. How many models does it take to play 40k? How many people actually take the time to paint and full assemble said models for 40k?
It doesn't matter to me if I need ten models or one hundred models to build an army. 90 dollars/euro is expensive for ten figures in my opinion. The discounted price is about right, but it sure doesn't feel like a discount.
BlueDagger wrote:I'm guessing that is where the huge shipping comes from, there is no additional charge tacked on.
I don't think they can guarantee that can they? If the "pay out the nose" side on the big die that Customs rolls comes up you're screwed regardless aren't you?
Noisy_Marine wrote:Aleph seems to be a popular choice judging by this thread.
It does seem that way. I was thinking Aleph and Hasqqislam, but I'm one of those people who doesn't do something if I think other people think it is popular.
ALEPH is probably popular in this thread because, if you've been playing/collecting INFINITY for any amount of time, you probably have many of the other figures presented in this deal.
ALEPH is still relatively new, and the chances are that many of us have resisted starting a new faction...
Alpharius wrote:ALEPH is probably popular in this thread because, if you've been playing/collecting INFINITY for any amount of time, you probably have many of the other figures presented in this deal.
ALEPH is still relatively new, and the chances are that many of us have resisted starting a new faction...
Yeah, my interest in Aleph is also tied to the figures. They look incredible, and that Marut is one sexy, sexy robot.
I'm torn. I really don't have a lot of spare cash this week, but I've also really been wanting to start Infinity. I'll probably talk with some of my gaming buddies tonight and see if they're interested in giving it a proper go. If so, I'll snag Aleph and the books.
Personally, I'm more interested in Yu Jing. And I am looking into starting Infinity sometime soon. But I'm more interested in the robots and remotes than the bikers. And I don't know enough about Infinity to know exactly how it all plays and what roles everything has on the battlefield.
So while it looks like an excellent deal, I think I'll have to pass.
JOHIRA wrote:Personally, I'm more interested in Yu Jing. And I am looking into starting Infinity sometime soon. But I'm more interested in the robots and remotes than the bikers. And I don't know enough about Infinity to know exactly how it all plays and what roles everything has on the battlefield.
So while it looks like an excellent deal, I think I'll have to pass.
You can download their army builder off their website for free and under each unit you can click their special rules to link right to their wiki page that tells you what the special rule does. I agree though that Yu Jing's remotes are beautiful, I'm a Nomad Remoteaholic lol
I, for once, am the lucky one with the postages, I had to pay only 5'90€. Too bad it's not the same big deal overseas. Anyway, I phoned them yesterday to ask something about my order, and looked like there were really busy. Excellent customer service, thougt.
Big thing to remember with that is that is the "starter pack" not the army deal that is up. The army deal includes the starter pack and additional figures.
Beasts of War are really making cool thing s this week.
Here you have all the Infinity range in a 7 minute video, enough to decide faction just for the looks of the miniatures.
IMHO, the best ARMY PACK is the Haqqislam Army Pack.
BlueDagger wrote:Big thing to remember with that is that is the "starter pack" not the army deal that is up. The army deal includes the starter pack and additional figures.
Are you referring to something other than the sale? The sale is specifically the Army packs and says so. Even in the title of the tread.
BlueDagger wrote:Big thing to remember with that is that is the "starter pack" not the army deal that is up. The army deal includes the starter pack and additional figures.
Are you referring to something other than the sale? The sale is specifically the Army packs and says so. Even in the title of the tread.
I think he was talking about the video from Bobba....
BlueDagger wrote:Big thing to remember with that is that is the "starter pack" not the army deal that is up. The army deal includes the starter pack and additional figures.
Are you referring to something other than the sale? The sale is specifically the Army packs and says so. Even in the title of the tread.
I think he was talking about the video from Bobba....
Correct, their "unpacking video" is the standard starter set. The 50% off week includes the starter pack plus a lot more.
BobbaFett wrote:Ehm... That is not true... the CB online store is worlwide.
Why the hell are they not going to ship to the richest country in the world?
Well, when I go to put in Invoice Order address like it mandates I do, the list of countries does not include USA. Unless I overlooked it twice, which is certainly possible.
Ok, I don´t want to sound rude, so, please, do not misinterpretate this.
But here is the USA in CB Online Store.
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It is not the most easy-friendly online store I had visited, but they do ship to USA.
What happens (in Firefox, Safari and Chrome) is that choosing United States causes something in the Flash they are using for their store to crash. The language changes to something other than English. (definitely not Spanish, or Italian) and "United States" can no longer be selected.
Priced out the cost of the book deal with shipping....and it's about an $8 savings over ordering them from a merchant here in the US. It saddens me that Infinity doesn't have a better presence in the United States. Their material is hard to find, and there aren't many groups in my area.
Delephont wrote:I guess the only fix for that is that more people start playing....as was stated elsewhere, you can proxy miniatures rather than buying two armies!
Where there is a will there is a way.
They are making a lot of noise. A lot of attention now into the Infinity range. Beasts of War, 50% discount, Quickstart rules... If that does not bring new players to their game nothing will.
And now thay have uploaded a new website. More visual than the old one, easier to look at the range.
Delephont wrote:I guess the only fix for that is that more people start playing....as was stated elsewhere, you can proxy miniatures rather than buying two armies!
If you can't even find the book for sale in your country, blazing trails becomes a lot more difficult. When Infinity actually develops a presence stateside, I'll be happy to give it a shot. Until then, it just demands more money than I'm willing to spend on a game that I probably won't be able to play.
But enough of the doom and gloom. Enjoy the awesome sale, my Eurofriends! Hopefully CB makes enough money from this to penetrate the overseas market!
lord_blackfang wrote:That is a bull argument. If you want to compare apples to apples, I can get a Necromunda gang (8 dudes) for £20.50 retail.
No it’s not, you can pump all the necro you want but necro is still outdated and compared…very poor models. Not just that but the compare is to 40k or Warmachine… we can get some cheap reaper models and call it good. Really your way off base… bringing up necromunda… Shame on you trying to resurrect one of G.W.s long forgotten projects…
Bob: “And on to our man on the seen lord black fang with the Necromunda news”
Lord Blackfang: “Well Bob things have been quiet here in Hive Prime since the mid 90s, but there has been a stirring of interest in the Arbite area since the release of Codex Demon hunters”
-and cue tumbleweeds-
Infinity is way cooler than Necro ever was…
I don't even need to read the whole thread to see how –some- are reacting...I just got an order (placed before all the hub-bub) from the warstore
are the expensive... not really
-these are warstore prices-
my Salamander T.A.G. (big robot) is larger and I.M.H.O. cooler than a dreadnaught. It was under $40
most “characters” are $8.99
the new G.K. terminator character is $23.00 (didn’t check W.S. price just remember from the preview) yeah a 23.00 termi is really a steal
Corvus is a new company compared to G.W. so they don’t have the huge fanbase and stockholders and such to have expansive plastic lines… and you don’t really need them.
After reading over my beautiful hardbound full glossy color rulebook (39.00) and watching the beast of war stuff…and loving the high detail beautiful models from infinity, you've gotta see them to understand the level of detail and to see what realistic minis look like (not the squatty Disproportioned models from G.W.) I’m done with G.W.
(Please don’t start the B.S. retorts either I'm 36, 22 years of playing and G.W. has gotten plenty of my cash. guys like me helped build that company on a grass roots level)
The people at the infinity forum are nice… pretty troll free and very helpful. Infinity is fun, it’s not meant for powergamers… not sure if the super competitive crowd will like it as much cause a basic troop without melta powerfist monster can kill even the toughest T.A.G.
If you like clean unique Anime/Manga style models, fun play, friendly helpful players, (free) high detailed rules(buy the book it’s worth it)… checkem’ out… Oh you can get started for around 90 bucks VS. 300 that is the min from other companies
When was the last time G.W. had anything for free…
Well worth it…
Corvus has a great product, great fun rules with depth, Killer models and with a little support might become a real contender in the wargame industry
Stop Drinking from the haterade cooler... buy an Aleph starter box, and have fun
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Kanluwen wrote: I don't understand this mentality. If you've not heard of anyone playing locally: just be a trendsetter. Pick up the rulebooks and two small forces(that YOU like, no less) and arrange a few demo games. Get the buzz going yourself if nobody else is.
Make sure the points are even or close…maybe a few other models...Print up a couple copies of the FREE rules and start running demos
my brothers gonna get some Yu Jing so it’ll be fun…
Agree with you 5deadly, nice post I share your perspective and funny we share the same age... I mean comparing necromunda gak to infinity miniatures shows not only how off base some people are and that just want to dig arguments for the sake of it.
Infinity is FUN, miniatures and cast is some of the best currently made everywhere, artwork great, community friendly and kind of the opposite of the brainwashed type of crowd we see on other systems and company guys are there to talk to you... free rules... man if you just want to have pure unbiased fun this is the right crowd and game to hang out with.
You're seriously going to piss all over another game just to justify Corvus Billi's high prices?
Isn't that basically what you're doing? Seriously, this is a news and rumours thread that may or may not be of interest to people. If you want to argue the toss over pricing, why not make a thread in Discussions instead of derailing this one?
If you want to argue the toss over pricing, why not make a thread in Discussions instead of derailing this one?
Yes please. We appreciate the very essence of discourse might require, nay demand mayhaps even, the odd meander or tangent or clarification, but only really if that means the general drive and direction of the thread is left in its unsullied state. Ta
I´ve been looking at the new website and, wow, they have a lot of new photos there. I have also noticed that, apart from the generic starter packs that are included in the 50% ARMY PACKS, there are the sectorial starter packs which IMHO are cooler because they are more recent miniatures.
When I look at the Nomads Starter Pack:
and then I look at the Bakunin Starter Pack, Nomad Sectorial Army:
They look much better, but there are no Army packs 50% discount with these guys.
They should have done also this offer with the sectorials... and make it point balanced. i´m not asking for something impossible. They should think about it.
New site is great you can check all minis very quickly and know prices etc... Infinity is going stronger their past site was a sluggish thing, but this one is fast.
And I'm still struggling with the aleph deal I mean I could buy this or spend 50 euros expanding my yujing collection... or I could make a combined force to go with my caskuda... decisions decisions...
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Oh crap. I haven't painted any of my Ariadna minis. I ordered another 2 different army packs (ALEPH & Haqqislam). And now the idea of making a Japanese Sectorial is growing on me so fast...
Luckily I'm not a fan of the Yu Jing army pack and I'm only interested in the minis with the ninja and samurai flavour on them...
NAVARRO wrote:Agree with you 5deadly, nice post I share your perspective and funny we share the same age... I mean comparing necromunda gak to infinity miniatures shows not only how off base some people are and that just want to dig arguments for the sake of it.
Infinity is FUN, miniatures and cast is some of the best currently made everywhere, artwork great, community friendly and kind of the opposite of the brainwashed type of crowd we see on other systems and company guys are there to talk to you... free rules... man if you just want to have pure unbiased fun this is the right crowd and game to hang out with.
100% right… Some people could have Beautiful Models sitting right in front of them and still be Cheerleaders for G.W.
I couldn’t convey the mood over at Infinity any better…
I do like the new Haramakis, but if you talking about buying the Aleph army box… Do it… it’s a few buck more than the tag itself if I didn’t just buy $158 worth of nomads and paints I’d Jump all over it… it’s going to be the second army for sure… I say go for it Navarro… they remind me of -Ghost in a shell- more than any other force… the Asura model -pretty girl- in the starter box is a tank… her weapons and armor (what armor right it’s a bioroid style body) make her one hellova killer… just do it
BobbaFett wrote:I´ve been looking at the new website and, wow, they have a lot of new photos there. I have also noticed that, apart from the generic starter packs that are included in the 50% ARMY PACKS, there are the sectorial starter packs which IMHO are cooler because they are more recent miniatures.[/b]
I'm with you I'm not as impressed with the oldstuff as some of the new packs... I pretty sure you can still bring the sectorial guys with a main line army only not as many... there might be some limits...
Can't wait to see whats next...
Erasoketa wrote:Oh crap. I haven't painted any of my Ariadna minis. I ordered another 2 different army packs (ALEPH & Haqqislam). And now the idea of making a Japanese Sectorial is growing on me so fast...Luckily I'm not a fan of the Yu Jing army pack and I'm only interested in the minis with the ninja and samurai flavour on them...
Thats my third choice... but I'm torn because I love some of the mainline Yu jing too... and really PanOceania is growing on me...ugh... small force of PanOceania
can"t hurt right
On to you Cheerleader
lord_blackfang wrote:You're seriously going to piss all over another game just to justify Corvus Billi's high prices?
Not pissing on G.W. your argument just Bogus and Corvus isn’t over priced… you like Anime? I don’t see anyone else doing it right…
Thanks for making a fake quote for me too.
lord_blackfang wrote: Mom get me some more Chocolate milk and a Chicken nuggets and bring me the remote control…MoM! I Said bring me some more chocolate MILK!
lord_blackfang's Mom wrote:Get it yourself Harold your 27 years old and clean your room it smells like Cat pee down there. Bring up the Easter decorations too there by the water heater.
fake qoutes kinda suck.
I could care less if you buy infinity, we don't need guys like you ruining the forums... we all Know dakkas a warzone....
I spent bits of my afternoon listening to the "Who are the ~?" faction movies on youtube. While I would like to see better visual editing in the videos (no need to see the designers' faces all the time when we could see the miniatures they're talking about) and while for some reason I can't find a PanOceania video, they are excellent. Combined with the new website and the starter army deals and everything, this may be the best example of advertising I've ever seen in a miniatures game. I'm in the middle of moving back to the US, but it will be very hard to resist getting into this once I'm back on my feet.
Although after looking at the minis more closely, I'm starting to think maybe I like Nomads better than Yu Jing. Maybe I'll just have to get a handful of minis from both factions!
To the people who know the game: I keep hearing them talk about the option of playing specialized Sectorial armies vs. general faction armies. Is there a game mechanic bonus or penalty in choosing your army in such a limited way?
Let's keep this on INFINITY, on the deals in particular.
It is a great game with beautiful models and fun rules, but it won't be for everyone.
Dissenting opinions are fine, if they don't go overboard and derail threads - and there's no need to jump ugly on people.
So, more INFINITY talk, and less of... that other stuff, OK?
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To the people who know the game: I keep hearing them talk about the option of playing specialized Sectorial armies vs. general faction armies. Is there a game mechanic bonus or penalty in choosing your army in such a limited way?
From what I can tell...
When you choose to run a "Sectorial" list, you are limited to choosing only certain troops, and only some of these are able to "Link".
"General" armies are free to choose from the entire list but then have no ability to "Link".
The ability to "Link" though, is VERY powerful, especially in this game, with the ARO (Overwatch on steroids!) system, so I'm not sure how much of a wash the 'disadvantages' really are!
JOHIRA wrote:I spent bits of my afternoon listening to the "Who are the ~?" faction movies on youtube. While I would like to see better visual editing in the videos (no need to see the designers' faces all the time when we could see the miniatures they're talking about) and while for some reason I can't find a PanOceania video, they are excellent.
BrookM wrote:How is the fluff in the two books they have on offer? Also, how is the translation of the two books?
Lastly, is this model a trap or has the site translation failed again?
I don't think it's a trap. In the Spanish version they also talk about "him". But I think that it's done that way to reinforce the "this ninja is just a myth" message that they use in the text. It probably doesn't happen in English, I don't know, but in Spanish, some times we give as a fact that somebody we are hearing about is a male, when she's actually a female. Because of the grammar. And in the real history, the Kunoichi (female ninjas) were specialized in different stuff than men, more spy-thing oriented. I guess nobody expected to remove the mask of a ninja and find a female face there.
A bit like when Neo and Trinity met in The Matrix. He says something like "I thought you were a man". And she answers "All the men thought that before meeting me".
CB did the same with Avicena. HE was a doctor, a real historical character. In the game, to help him to hide from it's creators (as it's a recreation), his mind is put in a female lhost (livehost, the clone bodies that are used for the recreations).
About the fluff, I like it a lot. I think that for a game that is relatively new they have a lot of stuff developed, and pretty well done. I can't talk about the translation, I have the Spanish versions
The translations are OK - better than what Rackham managed with theirs.
The rules are clear... enough.
But Infinity is a detailed skirmish game - IF you can demo with someone who knows the rules, it will be very helpful.
If not, play a smaller game first, with 'basic' type figures - and then gradually add in figures that have equipment that is a bit more exotic and esoteric - there's a lot of weird and cool stuff in there!
Correct, a lot of peopl like to jump in knee deep at like 300 points and the game gets very complicated fast. Start at like 150 pts with more basic type guys for like 2 games then you will pick up very fast.
Also, yes linked teams for the sectorial are very strong. I changes 3-5 basic guys that normall don't contribute much into beasts. +3 BS and +1 burst hurts like hell when it's a missile launcher and add to that the fact that they basically have total reaction.
Almost their entire range is, it doesn't help that they've got an extremely talented painter doing all their preview models. I've got some Infinity models but I'm afraid to paint them.
With "Infinity", the thing that has sold me on the system wasn't the absurdly detailed background (I'm not joking here. It's incredibly detailed, on par with how Forge World does their IA books. And that's for each unit in an army list), nor was it the gorgeously painted models.
It was the fact that when I ordered the rulebook and a few Ariadnan models from their website, they actually sent an email saying that "since it cost so much more when you bought from us rather than a US vendor, we've included a little something for you in your order".
That "little something" has pretty much sold me on them, period. It's not every company that will do this:
Nor will most companies include promotional material inside of an order--just because the customer "paid more" ordering directly from them.
Summary: If you ever get the chance to dive into Infinity; do it. You won't regret it.
I know I'm done...sometimes I crawl in the mud.... too much testosterone
BrookM wrote:How is the fluff in the two books they have on offer? Also, how is the translation of the two books? Lastly, is this model a trap or has the site translation failed again?
Tons of fluff, weapons info, I’m pretty impressed. All gloss color pages… well worth it and with much much more content than the free download rules. I can’t wait to buy the human sphere book.
I don’t know what you mean by trap but… She’s a monster… the sword she carries could cut a T.A.G. in half… wait
Do you mean the male/female mix up hen yeah it’s not a trick… just misprint/translation issue
JOHIRA wrote:To the people who know the game: I keep hearing them talk about the option of playing specialized Sectorial armies vs. general faction armies. Is there a game mechanic bonus or penalty in choosing your army in such a limited way?
BobbaFett wrote:OMG! LOOK AT THE LEVEL OF DETAIL!!! 28mm!!!!!!!
Nice aren’t they… and still not that expensive I love those models between them and the Mirage team… Ariadna might make it on the shelf before PanOceania…
Kanluwen wrote:I'm gonna share a little anecdote here. With "Infinity", the thing that has sold me on the system wasn't the absurdly detailed background (I'm not joking here. It's incredibly detailed, on par with how Forge World does their IA books. And that's for each unit in an army list), nor was it the gorgeously painted models.
It was the fact that when I ordered the rulebook and a few Ariadnan models from their website, they actually sent an email saying that "since it cost so much more when you bought from us rather than a US vendor, we've included a little something for you in your order".
That "little something" has pretty much sold me on them, period. It's not every company that will do this. Nor will most companies include promotional material inside of an order--just because the customer "paid more" ordering directly from them. Summary: If you ever get the chance to dive into Infinity; do it. You won't regret it.
It's a nice group of guys... I've exchanged E-mails with one of the creators Carlos several times and he's always gotten back to me... And He's one of the Bigwigs... It's like exchanging E-mail with Jervis Johnson. I couldn't give my hard earned money to a more deserving group of guys...
A tip for guys who don’t have opponents in their area… Make some… buy 2 starter sets ( the cheap 5-6 man boxes) and run Demos…introduce all the people you play with to the game, show your local hobby shop. I just did today at a local shop now they are going to order some of the line and set up demo times for me to introduce players. These guys need and deserve the support.
I’m so happy so many of you are helping spread the word and buying products… you won’t be disappointed…
I'm looking at the minis I ordered. The mold lines are almost invisible. Just one flaw. In the Maghariba mini, the upper intake has an excess of metal that would be pretty hard to remove. I think I won't remove it, I probably add some more texture, and paint it like mud. My first steps on weathering techniques
TBh it sounds like they got a big interest from what they said, and the number of folks talking about it online.
Reminds me of the sales GW did in the early nineties, and that got a lot of folks interested in their product.
I wouldn't worry yet, plus hopefully if they are as good a company as folks are suggesting, that confirnmation email will be enough for them to honour any deals if the system had a heart attack.
Just a heads up I've been in communication back and forth with the guys over there and they are getting stuff out as fast as they can. They got a little overwhelmed with the sale response lol.
"Dear Rob,
We are sending your order tomorrow by UPS, so you should receive it on
Friday or Monday.
We are not updating the status of the orders at the website to concentrate
in processing and despatching the orders. The huge amount of orders thanks
to the offer has caused us some delays, we use to be faster
-and cue tumbleweeds- 
