Okay, I hate Justin Bieber with every fiber of my being. But even he, before being signed, could strum a few chords and carry a tune. Even if he wasn't anything special, there is a very small sliver inside Bieber's girly-body that has talent. This is just...I thought it was The Lonely Island at first.
Is this the final nail in the coffin? When this girl gets signed?
This isn't selling out. Selling out would mean lowering your standards or changing yourself to meet the wants of the popular crowd. I am in Highschool, and I have not met a single person who likes this. Who is it appealing to exactly? There was a point in time where to be signed to do music, you had to actually produce some form of musical talent. The talent might not appeal to all, but there had to be something that seperated you as a musician or artist.
There is not one shred of musical talent in this. This is the equivalent of pulling some random chick off the street and getting her to sing her daily journal over a repetative beat. The lyrics are crap, there's no instruments, she's not singing, and she doesn't even dance. Where is the talent in this? Who seriously sat there and thought "This sounds good, let's give her a record deal." She's a troll, pure and simple. She's only famous because she is SO bad, and so many people view the video because it is SO bad.
I've been playing for, recording for, and generally being involved with local bands for almost 7 years now and I've watched lots of men and women with craploads of talent try ridiculously hard to get their name out there. The fact that trash like this gets music deals and the countless, actually talented, musicians are denied, forgotten, or not given the chance to shine is both upsetting and disturbing to me.
Kids in my school were talking about this today, so I guess it works. The music industry has been pumping out bad music for ages, the point is that it is quickly forgotten about. That's why people are always going on about X era's music being so much better than today- they usually only look at the good stuff or their favourite genre in it's heyday.
Leave the kid alone, it isn't her fault. I wish her all the success for as long as it lasts (odds aren't good for it being that long). It is a difficult industry to get into and the music isn't for me to begin with. She won't be getting my money or attention but she won't be getting my scorn either.
Darth Bob wrote:
I've been playing for, recording for, and generally being involved with local bands for almost 7 years now and I've watched lots of men and women with craploads of talent try ridiculously hard to get their name out there. The fact that trash like this gets music deals and the countless, actually talented, musicians are denied, forgotten, or not given the chance to shine is both upsetting and disturbing to me.
She isn't especially worse than the majority of "talented indie bands' I've been told so much about in my 25 years.
Okay, I hate Justin Bieber with every fiber of my being. But even he, before being signed, could strum a few chords and carry a tune. Even if he wasn't anything special, there is a very small sliver inside Bieber's girly-body that has talent. This is just...I thought it was The Lonely Island at first.
Is this the final nail in the coffin? When this girl gets signed?
Btw, that's already happened.
Feth, she isn't even singing. That's just the freakin Voice Change doing all the work.....
There's a thing rich people's kids can do now where they get taken in to a music studio, and the studio will produce a song for them and make a film clip. Thankyou daddy for spending $10,000 so I can play at being a popstar for a day.
It's basically like vanity publishing, except that instead of a book that no-one reads, you end up with a song no-one listens to. And exactly like vanity publishing, just occasionally you'll get something that's so terrible that it becomes fun to laugh at.
That is the story of Rebecca Black's Friday and it's millions upon millions of views on youtube.
I guess if people like the way this kind of thing sounds, that's fine, but honestly, most popular music isn't very deep. Artistically and musically. It's just too generic and repetitive for me. I guess your average person who doesn't know much about music only cares about catchy choruses, but as I know a good deal about music, it takes a lot more to impress me. I'm not going to act like I am better than everyone else for this reason, but they must admit that my musical knowledge is in fact superior.
Basically what I'm trying to say is, the reason why most popular music sucks is because most people don't know enough about music to know what constitutes true musical talent. So really, that's why they like pop music. As I said, I really couldn't care less, but that's seems to be the case.
Honestly, at my school this song is horribly popular. People sing it in the halls and large groups of people are known to belt it out in the middle of classes
Azure wrote:Honestly, at my school this song is horribly popular. People sing it in the halls and large groups of people are known to belt it out in the middle of classes
Are you sure they aren't just mocking it? Because the way some people in this thread are talking, the only reason why this video has so many views is because of how bad it is.
If we are going to talk about vanity projects, we really need to talk about the Smith (Will and Jada) family buying their kids way into fame. They are doing it with more than $10,000 though.
Ahtman wrote:If we are going to talk about vanity projects, we really need to talk about the Smith (Will and Jada) family buying their kids way into fame. They are doing it with more than $10,000 though.
I don't know why people keep using Autotune. To me it sounds like vomiting into the microphone and a lot of people hate on it.
I mean, I guess if you like the way it sounds, then use it for a song or two, but when you use it on every song, it makes you seem painfully talentless.
dogma wrote:Auto-tune, like anything else, has its uses. The problem is that, like anything else, a lot of people don't know what they are.
And what's more, since it's so easy to use, they overuse the crap out of it.
It's just like digital editing in movies today. Just because you can cut so easily doesn't mean you have to do it so often (I'm looking at you, Micheal Bay, you talentless hack). People can still appreciate long shots (thank you Anton Corbijn!).
Still, like digital editing, digital audio editing allows you to create some really cool sounds that are difficult, if not impossible to create in physical or analog environments.
As was said on another thread on the same topic:
It was ever thus.
Ignore it, and it will go away.
Copypasting Youtubs just helps give it more hits so don't do it.
There must have been more bad pop songs made than good, some of them unfortunately just get caught up in a breeze and take off. The seventies had more than its share of dubious novelty songs and pap pop that jumped to the top. Was too busy listening to Pink Floyd et al to say music was really bad.
Has anyone played it backwards for the subliminal satanic message yet?
It sounds to me that she is saying, Bomb Libya, start the apocolypse, now!."
Just goes to show how little effect these subliminal messages have on peoples' minds.
No one gives a crap about talent. They want to hear music they like. If enough willing customers like it, they did good enough. Commercial writing isn't dirty, it's just commercial; like being a WAAC player in compositional form
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:No one gives a crap about talent. They want to hear music they like. If enough willing customers like it, they did good enough. Commercial writing isn't dirty, it's just commercial; like being a WAAC player in compositional form
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:No one gives a crap about talent. They want to hear music they like. If enough willing customers like it, they did good enough. Commercial writing isn't dirty, it's just commercial; like being a WAAC player in compositional form
Mike Noble wrote:I guess if people like the way this kind of thing sounds, that's fine, but honestly, most popular music isn't very deep. Artistically and musically. It's just too generic and repetitive for me. I guess your average person who doesn't know much about music only cares about catchy choruses, but as I know a good deal about music, it takes a lot more to impress me. I'm not going to act like I am better than everyone else for this reason, but they must admit that my musical knowledge is in fact superior.
Basically what I'm trying to say is, the reason why most popular music sucks is because most people don't know enough about music to know what constitutes true musical talent. So really, that's why they like pop music. As I said, I really couldn't care less, but that's seems to be the case.
Let's note that she was not 'signed up' by a record company...the company that produced this video got paid about $2000 by Rebecca Black's parents to make and produce a music video for her....but then they made it public, and it spread like complete and total wild fire, because it's simply crap.
ChrisWWII wrote:Let's note that she was not 'signed up' by a record company...the company that produced this video got paid about $2000 by Rebecca Black's parents to make and produce a music video for her....but then they made it public, and it spread like complete and total wild fire, because it's simply crap.
That makes it an advertising jingle to show off the 'talents' of the production group. The "C" and "C" of the "music factory" of 80s fame where the initials of the last names of the two producers, nothing to do with the pawns singing for them, or the dance squad lip synchers in the video. So, it takes 'art' of a different sort to turn a random babble of lyrical cliches and overly predictable pop format loop into a "song" (understanding of verse-chorus-verse-chorus-breakdown-verse-chorus is just the tip of the cold sterile iceberg - running a pitch corrector takes a skill - not a talent but definitely a skill - lining up MIDI loops takes time, choosing which synthesized sounds to use for the musical backdrop is like picking whether to use cadmium blue or dioxyhaze purple - there is someone putting something together here).
When I saw this I thought either someone in a recording stupio or video roduction company lost a bet, or it was a kind of class project for some online "YOU CAN BREAK INTO THE MUSIC INDUSTRY!" type university marketed to the talentless-yet-driven portion of our young millenial culture that have dreams about recreating other people's songs for the next Glee so they can call it art.
"Bands" play songs they wrote themselves with instruments they play.
"Artists" perform songs other people wrote but do so with good voices (sometimes claiming co-writing credits for the lyrics or an instrument for the publicity of it - sometimes even claiming "writes all her own material" under instruction from the production team who knows exactly why they can afford to allow such little white lies), te "artist" is then backed up by session musicians who use their instrument of choice as a tool of a skilled trade, not as an artistic medium. A friend of mine used to do that for a living and he played crap he would never ever listen to because it paid him and got him into places, not because he thought what he was doing was "good" by any stretch of the imagination.
"Producers" are the ones who put together "Artists" whole act from image to sound to who to hire as the backup "band". This seemed to me like an advertisement for an undiscovered producer, not really meant to be a work of musical creativity, just showing off a talent for putting together a video and a coherent pop format. Poor lil miss Black is a pawn in this game and nothing more.
btw it costs a hell of a lot more than 2000 or 10000 or even 100000 dollars to make a professional song or video. 2000 dollars might have been able to afford 1 hour of studio time in some places, or maybe make a payment on a high end voice transformer/pitch correction tool.
Well the OP is blocked at work. Since I have no idea who it is, I will just complain and pretend it is Duffy and that stupid Well Well Well song. She sounds like she is singing through her nose and is just talking.
BTW, just listened to No Time to Cry by Cradle of Filth. I feel much better!
Perhaps it would be better saying "I hate everything the existance of Justin Beiber represents on an aesthetic level of what constitutes 'music' and serves the purpose of shovelling crap to masses of people who just don't care hence dilluting the industry's attention away from the truly talented or interesting things we might find if our TVs and radios weren't so poluted with carbon copied formulas"
I hate Justin Beiber is just a much easier way to get to the same point accross. Cosidering Justin Beiber or Lady Gaga or Madonna or Milli (and his brother Vanilla too) and so on, are actually 2 different things: One is a "person" you do not know who is a tool and may well have quite a sense of humor about the great rock and roll swindle they are involved in, the other is a trademarked moneymaking NAME that actually stands for a number of people on the team that creates the pop phenomenon. Justin Beiber (that version) is not a person, he is the PR representative of a company called Justin Beiber that is actually comprised of many talented video directors, songwriting teams, audio engineers, MIDI programmers, market analysts, costume designers, and so on.
Hate Justin Beiber Inc., but nobody except 13 yr olds cares much enough about Justin Beiber, son of blaah blah and so on Beiber, from E. Podunk, NW New Wherever who went to (school name here) HS. He's just a pawn, not really a hatable target.
SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Autotune has killed the music industry, see Ke$ha...
Oh man. She had one song that I thought was decent adn then went screechy stupid. blech. Too many good crooners wright now, but it shows the industry. Like Britney Spears getting air time. Her current stuff is just absolute trash but it keeps getting played. Oh well, back to Bach!
It's nice her dad spent that kinda money so his daughter can make a video. It's also cool that she isn't dressed like a skank, and the lyrics are from a real teen and not some wierd 40 year old dude. I don't get the "She's not even that hot." She's just a kid for one, and looks have nothing to do with music. Hater overload/
sexiest_hero wrote:It's nice her dad spent that kinda money so his daughter can make a video. It's also cool that she isn't dressed like a skank, and the lyrics are from a real teen and not some wierd 40 year old dude. I don't get the "She's not even that hot." She's just a kid for one, and looks have nothing to do with music. Hater overload/
They are from a weird 40 year old. She didn't write the song, the 'producers' at the studio did and she picked it (IIRC they had 2 'songs' for her to choose).
Yes, pop stars just happen to all be attractive. Riiiight...
Looks have everything to do with music, that's why it's total garbage now.
With enough make-up and costume magic even guys like Gaga can be pop Queens.
There are a fair few people who are both attractive and musically talented, off the top of my head Kate Voegelle is pretty high on that list, even if only one of her songs (99 Times) is my kind of sound.
Also, if Katy Perry has anything to do with her music other than singing it, she is pretty talented too. Even if her hotness gets deducted for being a total air head/girly girl/ditz, haven't decided which one yet.....
Second, if you think this is bad, try George Michaels latest effort - truly awful vocal 'enhancements'. It makes me wonder if the drugs have finally taken their toll on his voice... And to think only 10 years ago he was being touted as a new frontman for Queen because of his performance at the Freddie Tribute concert - I was their and I can say that he put in a great performance...
I wandered away from American music years ago. I've been finding excellent classical music and, well, MUSIC that can actually convey something without relying on words and a stupid re-verb beat in the background.
See the following example:
I know it's anime, but listen to it just once. Spending 3 minutes listening to this may just get you back the time you wasted on the other crap in this tread. Also to note, this isn't the real song, that's not to be released until the end of april... :( but it's the best thing I've found thus far.
J-pop is just as bad as regular pop, it just has a 'j" in front to of it and pictures of androgynous animated men and women drawn to look like overly sexualized girls to accompany it. It is no better or worse to like it it than it is to like any other pop music. It isn't inferior, it isn't superior, it is just pop music from another country and just as formulaic.
If you want a sense of superior music taste, well now, jazz fusion, that is where things are at.
Ahtman wrote:J-pop is just as bad as regular pop, it just has a 'j" in front to of it and pictures of androgynous animated men and women drawn to look like overly sexualized girls to accompany it. It is no better or worse to like it it than it is to like any other pop music. It isn't inferior, it isn't superior, it is just pop music from another country and just as formulaic.
If you want a sense of superior music taste, well now, jazz, that is where things are at.
Perhaps her dad spent $2000 on this young lady's musical career (if it counts as one). A lot more than $2000 was spent between the video shoot alone which could cost $2000 just for an hour of equipment rental and a guy to operate a camera. Add on to the video cost a fully mastered recording, the process of which involves a tad more than 4 hours, which is about how much time that would get you at the rate the intermediate level studio I engineer for's rates. Whoever quoted that number either doesn't know how much more was spent on making it that was not by her daddy, or is a liar trying to dispell the idea that she is a spoiled little rich girl for the sake of an illusion of integrity. The monitor speakers and accoustic room treatments necessary to mix pop music to an industry standard cost far more than $2000 and that is without engineering time for the vocal corrections, equipment, mixing board that could cost a quarter of a million by itself, microphones that sometimes cost around $2000 and many can cost much more, the list adds up. $2000 can get you a crusty recording of a garage band playing in a basement and a video that looks like it was shot on a cellphone live on location with no lighting effects. This video, good song or otherwise (it's part of my job to be as indifferent to content as possible), is obviously quite a piece of production work. The $2000 figure may have been a number thrown out to dispell the rich girl stereotype, much as many so-called artists appear in their videos playing an instrument that isn't really them playing, to dispell the stereotype that others make the music for them. It's just part of the game.
mister robouteo wrote:Perhaps her dad spent $2000 on this young lady's musical career (if it counts as one). A lot more than $2000 was spent between the video shoot alone which could cost $2000 just for an hour of equipment rental and a guy to operate a camera. Add on to the video cost a fully mastered recording, the process of which involves a tad more than 4 hours, which is about how much time that would get you at the rate the intermediate level studio I engineer for's rates. Whoever quoted that number either doesn't know how much more was spent on making it that was not by her daddy, or is a liar trying to dispell the idea that she is a spoiled little rich girl for the sake of an illusion of integrity. The monitor speakers and accoustic room treatments necessary to mix pop music to an industry standard cost far more than $2000 and that is without engineering time for the vocal corrections, equipment, mixing board that could cost a quarter of a million by itself, microphones that sometimes cost around $2000 and many can cost much more, the list adds up. $2000 can get you a crusty recording of a garage band playing in a basement and a video that looks like it was shot on a cellphone live on location with no lighting effects. This video, good song or otherwise (it's part of my job to be as indifferent to content as possible), is obviously quite a piece of production work. The $2000 figure may have been a number thrown out to dispell the rich girl stereotype, much as many so-called artists appear in their videos playing an instrument that isn't really them playing, to dispell the stereotype that others make the music for them. It's just part of the game.
It's possible that they rented a studio space and didn't buy all of the equipment themselves though, right?
I think they own the recording area and equipment themselves, as it appears it's part of their business plan to sell their ability to make a music video to people who want it.
Ahtman wrote:J-pop is just as bad as regular pop, it just has a 'j" in front to of it and pictures of androgynous animated men and women drawn to look like overly sexualized girls to accompany it. It is no better or worse to like it it than it is to like any other pop music. It isn't inferior, it isn't superior, it is just pop music from another country and just as formulaic.
If you want a sense of superior music taste, well now, jazz fusion, that is where things are at.
Superior music taste is defined by directly throwing out the names of individual musicians instead of bands. Especially if only the last name is given, then you really know what you're talking about. It's also good to make up attributes that are hard to define (things like groove, heart, emotion) and argue that your last-named person has more or the other has less. Example:
I for one think Wooten could teach Claypool a lesson in soul.
SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Autotune has killed the music industry, see Ke$ha...
No it didn't.
The use of auto-tune to correct an inability to sing in a very few cases, has caused a tiny amount of damage.
You do realise that auto-tune is used to produce a large variety of vocal effects?
It doesn't mean that the person can't sing, it means that they can't produce an effect that is humanly impossible, and so autotune does it for them.
SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Autotune has killed the music industry, see Ke$ha...
No it didn't.
The use of auto-tune to correct an inability to sing in a very few cases, has caused a tiny amount of damage.
You do realise that auto-tune is used to produce a large variety of vocal effects?
It doesn't mean that the person can't sing, it means that they can't produce an effect that is humanly impossible, and so autotune does it for them.
Unfortunately, it's also what causes a good Live show or not.
In all seriousness, if you don't like it, don't listen. It's really that simple. The main target for the industry is a 14 year old girl. This is perfect fodder for that.
Unsigned hyper talents will stay that way because the big wigs in the music industry can't control them enough. Don't worry about it though, the industry is dying anyway.
Medium of Death wrote:EDIT: Is that George Michael abortion meant to be a cover of this?
Regrettably, I think you may be correct on this...
Absolutely definetly. Originally appeared in 1986 as a single. One of New Order's more popular songs, and one of their best. If Bret Easton Ellis' books are to be taken as evidence (don't blame me, I wasn't around to go clubbing then), the song had a fair amount play at clubs.
Oh, and it's fething amazing and no cover will ever be able to do it proper justice.
Ahtman wrote:J-pop is just as bad as regular pop, it just has a 'j" in front to of it and pictures of androgynous animated men and women drawn to look like overly sexualized girls to accompany it. It is no better or worse to like it it than it is to like any other pop music. It isn't inferior, it isn't superior, it is just pop music from another country and just as formulaic.
If you want a sense of superior music taste, well now, jazz, that is where things are at.
Fixed.
Fusion is for anoraks. No good can come of it.
So you're a jacket then, cause aren't you a fan of King Crimson?
Mike Noble wrote:I guess if people like the way this kind of thing sounds, that's fine, but honestly, most popular music isn't very deep. Artistically and musically. It's just too generic and repetitive for me. I guess your average person who doesn't know much about music only cares about catchy choruses, but as I know a good deal about music, it takes a lot more to impress me. I'm not going to act like I am better than everyone else for this reason, but they must admit that my musical knowledge is in fact superior.
Basically what I'm trying to say is, the reason why most popular music sucks is because most people don't know enough about music to know what constitutes true musical talent. So really, that's why they like pop music. As I said, I really couldn't care less, but that's seems to be the case.
What music do you listen to?
What do you mean, like genre's, or actual bands?
Personally I like Progressive Rock, Heavy Metal, and Jazz best.
Heavy metal is as much a formula as "pop" music. Any genre oriented musical style is just following the instructions on the package. Metal involves guitarists who learn how to play up and down a scale over and over until they can do it really quickly, thus are considered "musical" because they learned how to perform a certain trick, but its still just a formula it gets plugged into. Toss on some skull tattoos, goaties, and the obligatory long hair or bald look instead of a boob job and flashy outfit and you add the last touch to the formula.
SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Autotune has killed the music industry, see Ke$ha...
No it didn't.
The use of auto-tune to correct an inability to sing in a very few cases, has caused a tiny amount of damage.
You do realise that auto-tune is used to produce a large variety of vocal effects?
It doesn't mean that the person can't sing, it means that they can't produce an effect that is humanly impossible, and so autotune does it for them.
Unfortunately, it's also what causes a good Live show or not.
Can't autotune a concert :/
I'd assume that that is why artists that most people assume to use auto-tune seem to have incredibly showy stage performances, whereas other artists tend not to.
On the vocal effects point, ke$ha was criticised for one of her songs, I think it was called "Take it off" or something similar, as many people were shouting "She's using vocal effects!! that obviously means she can't sing!", it doesn't actually mean that though, it means that we can't tell if she can sing or not, but in actuality the voice effect is interesting.
I think a lot of pop concerts are largely backing tracks for the layers of vocals with maybe one real vocal going on faded into and out of the mix as the song churns along. The black-eyed-peas performance at the superbowl had autotuned sounding voices in it too.
Mike Noble wrote:I guess if people like the way this kind of thing sounds, that's fine, but honestly, most popular music isn't very deep. Artistically and musically. It's just too generic and repetitive for me. I guess your average person who doesn't know much about music only cares about catchy choruses, but as I know a good deal about music, it takes a lot more to impress me. I'm not going to act like I am better than everyone else for this reason, but they must admit that my musical knowledge is in fact superior.
Basically what I'm trying to say is, the reason why most popular music sucks is because most people don't know enough about music to know what constitutes true musical talent. So really, that's why they like pop music. As I said, I really couldn't care less, but that's seems to be the case.
What music do you listen to?
What do you mean, like genre's, or actual bands?
Personally I like Progressive Rock, Heavy Metal, and Jazz best.
Yep, thought as much. You like popular music. Me too.
Cheesecat wrote:So you're a jacket then, cause aren't you a fan of King Crimson?
I am a fan, though they aren't generally considered jazz fusion. They're more of a prog rock band containing jazz elements (the use of saxophone being the most smack-in-the-face obvious indicator), which isn't uncommon amongst that genre - take Soft Machine or Van De Graaf Generator (who I prefer, incidentally - check out 'Pawn Hearts'. Evil.) for example. I suppose they veer into that territory later on, but it isn't what they're known for really. They're known for stuff like this:
Mike Noble wrote:I guess if people like the way this kind of thing sounds, that's fine, but honestly, most popular music isn't very deep. Artistically and musically. It's just too generic and repetitive for me. I guess your average person who doesn't know much about music only cares about catchy choruses, but as I know a good deal about music, it takes a lot more to impress me. I'm not going to act like I am better than everyone else for this reason, but they must admit that my musical knowledge is in fact superior.
Basically what I'm trying to say is, the reason why most popular music sucks is because most people don't know enough about music to know what constitutes true musical talent. So really, that's why they like pop music. As I said, I really couldn't care less, but that's seems to be the case.
What music do you listen to?
What do you mean, like genre's, or actual bands?
Personally I like Progressive Rock, Heavy Metal, and Jazz best.
Yep, thought as much. You like popular music. Me too.
Cheesecat wrote:So you're a jacket then, cause aren't you a fan of King Crimson?
I am a fan, though they aren't generally considered jazz fusion. They're more of a prog rock band containing jazz elements (the use of saxophone being the most smack-in-the-face obvious indicator), which isn't uncommon amongst that genre - take Soft Machine or Van De Graaf Generator (who I prefer, incidentally - check out 'Pawn Hearts'. Evil.) for example. I suppose they veer into that territory later on, but it isn't what they're known for really. They're known for stuff like this:
Yeah. Fripp AND Bruford.
I agree that King Crimson is a prog band first and foremost, but it's possible for bands to be several genres at once in fact sometimes a single song can be considered several genres "21st Century Schizoid Man"
for example, has elements of jazz fusion, prog and hard rock all mashed together. Led Zeppelin isn't just a hard rock band they do heavy metal, blues rock and folk rock as well.
Albatross wrote:Well a chair isn't just a chair. It is mostly, however, a chair.
I suppose what I'm trying to say some artists like to branch out and experiment/fuse other genres into there work, like the song you showed me sounds quite hard rock as well.
Mike Noble wrote:I guess if people like the way this kind of thing sounds, that's fine, but honestly, most popular music isn't very deep. Artistically and musically. It's just too generic and repetitive for me. I guess your average person who doesn't know much about music only cares about catchy choruses, but as I know a good deal about music, it takes a lot more to impress me. I'm not going to act like I am better than everyone else for this reason, but they must admit that my musical knowledge is in fact superior.
Basically what I'm trying to say is, the reason why most popular music sucks is because most people don't know enough about music to know what constitutes true musical talent. So really, that's why they like pop music. As I said, I really couldn't care less, but that's seems to be the case.
What music do you listen to?
What do you mean, like genre's, or actual bands?
Personally I like Progressive Rock, Heavy Metal, and Jazz best.
Yep, thought as much. You like popular music. Me too.
I probably shouldn't have used the term popular music, like I'm some kind of hipster douche.
I meant the generic and repetitive Pop music, like the kind this thread was started over.
Rick Roll is for babies though, they've moved on to more "interesting" stuff...
Like the McRoll, all the other songs like it to U.N Owen Was Her? and Red Zone.
An unfortunate side effect of trying to find good music yourself is you sometimes come across insane as hell stuff.
Slarg232 wrote:Havent broughten myself to listen to more than "7 oclock in the mornin", so I don't know it's quality the whole way through.
I laughed my ass off at this. I was waiting for them to mention this:
Welcome to the interwebz, Ms.Black.
However, in all seriousness, this is really ridiculous. As much as I laughed (which was nearly to tears) I find it to be another reason why I should create Skynet. A girl wants to become a popular singer, and people act like they were just spoon-fed a big helping of HERESY!!.
yeenoghu wrote:Heavy metal is as much a formula as "pop" music. Any genre oriented musical style is just following the instructions on the package. Metal involves guitarists who learn how to play up and down a scale over and over until they can do it really quickly, thus are considered "musical" because they learned how to perform a certain trick, but its still just a formula it gets plugged into. Toss on some skull tattoos, goaties, and the obligatory long hair or bald look instead of a boob job and flashy outfit and you add the last touch to the formula.
While there is some truth in that, metal can be more diverse than that. The first wave of British Heavy Metal (Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, etc) was very similar to hard-rock in sound with many
blues rock and psychedelic rock influences. It wasn't until the new wave of British Heavy Metal that metal became really notorious for it's high speed (sure early heavy metal was fast for it's time but so were
other genres like hard-rock) also blues influences were now replaced with punk influences. Speed metal was also created around this time but quickly declined due to the popularity of it's more aggressive
cousin thrash metal (which would influence Death and Black metal). Power metal is the other branch of speed metal but it is more known for it's softer sound. Not all metal is characterized by fast guitar solos
Doom metal has an extremely slow tempo, a "thicker" sound and this music often evokes a feeling of despair. Also the clothing style is often reflective of the fashion during that decade as well as the
sub-genre they're playing, but not every metal singer wears 3 shades of black and spiked clothing.
Heavy Metal can be simple, or complex. Paying a basic riff very fast, isn't all that hard. Playing a complex riff very fast is very hard, and generally is only done by truly skilled musicians.
It's not always about speed though. Really, I like Metal bands like Dream Theater and Opeth best.
I listen to Beethoven, Eminem, Elbow, Radiohead, AC/DC, The Offspring, Atreyu, Mindless self indulgence, Gnarls Barkley and Queen among many other bands; trying to limit yourself to one kind of music just cuts you off from so much happiness.
I listen to Beethoven, Eminem, Elbow, Radiohead, AC/DC, The Offspring, Atreyu, Mindless self indulgence, Gnarls Barkley and Queen among many other bands; trying to limit yourself to one kind of music just cuts you off from so much happiness.
I like Eletronic, Rock, Classical, Eastern Movement, Kurt Hugo Scheinder, Alternative, Oldies, and a few more.
I've found that I don't particularly like most modern rock/metal, and prefer classical and orchestral types of music. Of course, I recognize that it's important not to stereotype, so I'll listen to any song once before passing judgement.
I listen to Beethoven, Eminem, Elbow, Radiohead, AC/DC, The Offspring, Atreyu, Mindless self indulgence, Gnarls Barkley and Queen among many other bands; trying to limit yourself to one kind of music just cuts you off from so much happiness.
I like silly songs, like Wierd Al, or any of the TF2 related ones like "Piss" by Sniper, "Im yo Medic" by The Medic, and lets not forget "Baby" by Heavy Bieber.
Of course this is not counting Metal, or one off songs from singers I don't usually like; I.E. Katy Perry.
Disclaimer: I did NOT write this, I just thought it would be funny to share another similar thing I found. I repeat, it is only for a laugh. If a mod want's me to snip it, I will. Or feel free to delete it.
Let’s begin with the very name of the song, ‘Friday’. The name of this day of the week, which follows Thursday and comes before Saturday (Sunday comes afterward), which is the sixth day of the week. 6 being the number of the beast.
In the opening scene, Rebecca wakes up from bed and sings about having her daily “bowl” and cereal. As we move on to the next scene, we notice that her family in the back is moving unusually fast. These are all signs which indicate that she’s on some type mind controlling drugs.
Rebecca ponders on which seat to take; the front seat (the leader role), or the back seat (the follower). Rebecca, being the puppet of the Illuminati, chooses the backseat, of course.
In the second car shot, Rebbeca seems to have finally made up her mind, and she appears to be sitting in the backseat right in the middle of her two friends, who are, coincidentally, both wearing red dresses and have braces, symbolizing the blood and restraint she will have to go through as she transform into a mindless puppet.
On our right we have one of Rebecca’s “friends” whose uncontrollabe (based on her arm movements) glee doesn’t match the activity or emotion of the moment, on our left we have her other friend whose horrified expression speaks to the dilemma of the soul when one chooses to enroll in Satan’s army. They truly are the angel and devil on her shoulders.
To whom is Rebecca pointing? The viewer. And to what purpose? The acquisition of your soul.
When Rebecca does finally arrive at the party she’s excited for we find it mostly populated by teenagers like her, this represents Limbo and the fact that their souls are still up for grabs. Now it just depends on who gives to them first, the dark or the light.
Need we explain who this is?
Satan.
In all his glory. Fast cars, expensive jewelry, he’s there to entice the millions of unsuspecting teenagers to give up their families and futures for an eternity of damnation.
Slarg232 wrote:I like silly songs, like Wierd Al, or any of the TF2 related ones like "Piss" by Sniper, "Im yo Medic" by The Medic, and lets not forget "Baby" by Heavy Bieber.
Of course this is not counting Metal, or one off songs from singers I don't usually like; I.E. Katy Perry.
Honestly, how can you NOT like E.T.?
you'll love this professor elemental the gentlemen rhymer
I listen to Beethoven, Eminem, Elbow, Radiohead, AC/DC, The Offspring, Atreyu, Mindless self indulgence, Gnarls Barkley and Queen among many other bands; trying to limit yourself to one kind of music just cuts you off from so much happiness.
This +1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
honestly It really annoys me when my freinds see a song on a music channel, and immediately go "CHANGE IT!!!" because it's by an artist they haven't heard of, or sounds different.
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samusaran253 wrote:Disclaimer: I did NOT write this, I just thought it would be funny to share another similar thing I found. I repeat, it is only for a laugh. If a mod want's me to snip it, I will. Or feel free to delete it.
honestly It really annoys me when my freinds see a song on a music channel, and immediately go "CHANGE IT!!!" because it's by an artist they haven't heard of, or sounds different.
More or less. I can't take listening to music were all I hear is hate, or just some stupid beat. I will give things a chance, but when I try to show a different type of song to a few of my friends who only listen to metal, they can't enjoy it for some reason, probably because the songs are uplifting...
"I don't think Twisted Sister is "Glam" because that implies glamour, and we're not glamorous. We should be called "Hid" because we're hideous." -Dee Snider
Lt. Coldfire wrote:Justin Beiber isn't all bad. Sometimes you just need to add some fine tuning and change the lyrics some. Behold:
Get that man something to drink asap! Poor guy must be parched talking like that.
The worst part about it is the dude has an amazing voice that you hardly hear because they have that style of singing. I mean, despite the lyrics, listen to this:
She's just a puppet like Bieber to sell cd's and merchandise with little talent or effort, like Bieber.
If she can make money on other peoples stupidity then good for her, i wish her all the best.
Sadly the way most people go in the entertainment biz shell probably be on drugs and avoiding court dates in a couple of years.
Beiber is talented. He's got the pipes for the job. His music is gak, but the boy's got something. Who knows, he may end up becoming a decent artist some day once he grows up.
Rebecca Black on the other hand... well, there's only so much autotune can do for the poor girl.
ColdFire wrote:Even if I dont think much of it, GOOD ON HER!
She's just a puppet like Bieber to sell cd's and merchandise with little talent or effort, like Bieber.
If she can make money on other peoples stupidity then good for her, i wish her all the best.
Sadly the way most people go in the entertainment biz shell probably be on drugs and avoiding court dates in a couple of years.
I can appreciate your sentiment, except it was revealed her daddy paid to have the film clip made... she wasnt 'discovered'
I still say the hatred towards Bieber is tiresome and childish. Same with the hatred towards this woman.
dogma wrote:She isn't especially worse than the majority of "talented indie bands' I've been told so much about in my 25 years.
Yeah. It's not terribly bad to listen to, just kinda boring.
I'd rather be forced to listen to this drivel than some of the honestly just completely awful crap that's out there.
Ahtman wrote:Leave the kid alone, it isn't her fault. I wish her all the success for as long as it lasts (odds aren't good for it being that long). It is a difficult industry to get into and the music isn't for me to begin with. She won't be getting my money or attention but she won't be getting my scorn either.
I do. Along with little kids who scream into their mic, people playing rap music, high pitched squeaky voices, and all the rest. Doesn't mean it doesn't bleed through someone elses mic, and it doesn't make me hate any of the other categories less, either.....
Disclaimer: I did NOT write this, I just thought it would be funny to share another similar thing I found. I repeat, it is only for a laugh. If a mod want's me to snip it, I will. Or feel free to delete it.
