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Post by: ChrisWWII
From Forge World's Newsletter today.
Apologies if this an old picture/thread, cursory reading of the front page revealed nothing about Forge World Newsletters or PHantom Titans.
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Post by: Kanluwen
It's definitely new, the first finished photos of the Phantom in fact.
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Post by: Goliath
I think Kanluwen's comment should be followed by a quick
HOLY MOLY!
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Post by: Necros
everything is great, except for that color.. yuck.
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Post by: Kanluwen
I like the color, it's definitely unique.
Supposedly, it'll be the colors of this "Lost" Craftworld we're seeing in IA11.
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Post by: blood angel
I am buying that.
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Post by: dreadanant
Thats stupidly awsome, if my table/bank account was big enough id deffeneantly get one of those.
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Post by: BrassScorpion
Here's the newsletter contents besides the photo: Hi there,
With just over a week until the 2011 Forge World Open Day at Warhammer World, we have some exciting news about the first pre-release kit that will be on sale there - the mighty Eldar Phantom Titan!
Eldar Phantom Titan on sale at the Forge World Open Day
Eldar Phantom TitanTall, slender and elegant, the Phantom is the largest known pattern of Eldar Titan. It is swift and agile in comparison to the lumbering behemoths of the Legio Titanicus, and is armed with some of the deadliest examples of Eldar weaponry.
Each Phantom is the pinnacle of Eldar warcraft. Linked to a wraithbone core containing the living spirit of its previous pilots, the single crewman of each Phantom Titan, known as a Steersman, is an Exarch dedicated to this aspect of warfare. Locked in a trance-like state, the Steersman’s consciousness merges with the spirit-sentience of the Titan, enabling the mighty war machine to react and manoeuvre with astonishing speed.
The Phantom Titan is most commonly armed with at least one immense Phantom Pulsar, a long range and rapid-firing energy weapon far superior to anything sanctioned by the Adeptus Mechanicus. The Phantom’s other primary weapon is often a Phantom D-Cannon; much larger and more powerful than similar technology used by the Cobra or Warp Hunter, it tears a seething warp-rift in the fabric of reality to engulf and utterly destroy its foe. As well as these primary weapons, the Phantom is armed with shoulder-mounted anti-aircraft and anti-personnel missile launchers as well as an additional heavy weapon; usually a long-barrelled Star Cannon or Pulse Laser. Adeptus Mechanicus logis-engines also record other primary weapons systems that have been encountered in the long history of conflict between the Imperium and the Eldar.
The Phantom Titan is the tallest war machine Forge World has ever designed. First showcased at an early stage of development at Games Day UK 2010, designer Will Hayes has now finished crafting this graceful masterpiece. Packed with lavish external and internal detail, including a stunning cockpit interior sculpted by Simon Egan, the Phantom Titan has taken a full year to complete, such is the degree of detail and workmanship that this most impressive model (we can’t call it a miniature!) boasts.
The Phantom Titan will be on sale for the very first time at the Forge World Open Day. You’ll be able to admire a fully painted example of this majestic model over on our Studio stand, where Will Hayes will also be explaining exactly how such a project is undertaken.
Full technical information and background for the Phantom Titan will be provided in Imperial Armour Volume 11: The Doom of Mymeara along with full rules for fielding what is the single most powerful model currently available in Warhammer 40,000.
At the Forge World Open Day you’ll be able to peruse a work-in-progress copy of this hotly-anticipated book on our Studio stand, as well as direct your questions to Forge World’s Book Design team, who are currently working on it.
Stay tuned to future newsletters for more details of other pre-release kits that will be available at the Open Day alongside the Phantom Titan and our Forge World and Warhammer Forge show only miniatures.
Charity Titan Raffle Update
The Forge World Open Day always gives one lucky person the chance to win a mighty Titan for a mere one pound, and this year’s event is no different. The Open Day 2011 Titan Raffle prize will be the imposing, immense, lavishly detailed Eldar Phantom Titan!
Tickets for the raffle can be only purchased at the Open Day from the Painting Competition Registration area, and the draw will be made at 3:30pm. Tickets are £1 each and you can enter as many times as you like, although you must still be at the Open Day when the draw is made to win!
In light of the recent and on-going natural disasters in Japan, all proceeds from this year’s raffle will be donated to the WorldVision UK Tsunami Relief Fund, a children’s charity currently assisting with relief efforts in some of the worst-affected areas of Japan. You can find more details about the charity at www.worldvision.org.uk/server.php?show=nav.3001&giftId=47.
Forge World Events News
AdeptiCon Update
Forge World’s Stephen Green and Kenton Mills will be travelling to the Westin Lombard Yorktown Centre in Chicago, IL, for AdeptiCon 2011 on 1st to 3rd April.
AdeptiCon attendees will be able to admire the immense Eldar Phantom Titan in all its glory, and the crack Forge World team on our sales stand will be taking exclusive advance orders for the Phantom and each of its weapon options. We will also have limited numbers of our Event Only MkIII Armoured Boarding Marine and Chaos Dwarf Hellsmith miniatures, and we can now confirm that we’ll also have stock of the Eldar Shadow Spectres Exarch, Eldar Lynx with Pulsar and Eldar Lynx with Sonic Lance as well as the Warhammer Forge Empire Marienburg Land Ship and Nuln Ironsides Handgunner Conversion Kit
If you have any queries about Forge World’s presence at AdeptiCon, please don’t hesitate to contact us either by telephone on 011 44 115 916 8177 or by sending an e-mail titled ‘AdeptiCon’ to Forgeworld@games-workshop.co.uk.
Salute 2011 Reservations Now Being Taken
London’s ExCel Centre hosts Salute 2011 on Saturday 16th April, and Forge World will be in attendance with a Sales stand bursting with resin kits, modelling supplies and books from both the Forge World and Warhammer Forge ranges. You’ll also be able to purchase our MkIII Armoured Boarding Marine and Chaos Dwarf Hellsmith Event Only models as well as the recently released Eldar Lynx with Pulsar and Eldar Lynx with Sonic Lance, and Warhammer Forge models such as the Marienburg Land Ship.
The best way of making sure that we have exactly the models you’re after is to place a reservation for Salute 2011. To do this just telephone the Forge World Customer Service team on 0115 916 8177. You’ll need your payment card details to hand as we are taking payment in advance of the event, and we will also need an e-mail address for you. In the week before the event, we’ll send you a confirmation e-mail containing your order number and the total cost of your order which you must bring with you to collect your purchases.
Thanks,
Ead Brown
Forge World Customer Service Manager
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Post by: SilverMK2
WAAAAAAYYYYY better than the old one 
Come on lottery win...
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Post by: blood angel
Correction.. I will be buying that.. at adepticon.
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Post by: FM Ninja 048
give me a moment to pick my jaw off the floor...
right, pros: nice colors, HUGE
cons:
Questions, Can we see this next to a reaver? what's that weapon next to the nipple gem? is that alternate head open or is that just to show the details? when does it come out?
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Post by: Ma55ter_fett
Looks nice.
A little bow legged though.
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Post by: Jackal
Looks like a star cannon.
Looks like a 2nd head judging from the very different designs.
On games day.
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Post by: Alpharius
Awesome indeed!
I eagerly await the release of the Warlock variant - which I will also not be able to afford, but still, it should be incredible!
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Post by: Perkustin
Wow i like these pages, time to fnd out who could possibly hate such a beast.
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Post by: Valkyrie
*spits out drink*
Sweet Jesus, how much will that thing cost?
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Post by: warboss
very spiffy looking, indeed. on a side note.. i never knew the pilot was in the head!
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Post by: Belerephon
The guys are Forge World are just too good at what they do...
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Post by: BrassScorpion
The Armorcast version is still pretty hot looking, probably the best looking epic upscale they ever did. The new Forge World model is also beautiful. I wonder how enthusiastic the comments in this thread will be once the price is announced for the new one?
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Post by: Perkustin
Any chance someone could photoshop a 28mm size comp?
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Post by: vitki
Considering the small one next to it is the revenant Titan and that one is ~12" tall, I expect the Phanton to top 2 feet!
And since the Revenant is ~$300, I don;t really want to speculate on the cost of a Phantom...
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Post by: MechaEmperor7000
I'm kinda iffy on the design of it. Looks good as a stand alone model, but next to the Revenant, it looks like they just upsized the Revenant Titan, took away the boosters and gave it hands.
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Post by: MajorTom11
Still not a fan of the biggerized guardian face and shoulder guards, and also still very attached to the original epic design, but that looks very nice for all that! I feel they could have updated the older head design and not pushed it so hard to truer anthropomorphism with the 'face' and hands... Oh, and the hands... what in the name of jeebus does it need hands for? If those 100 ft long pulsars need physical giant trigger pulling then I consider that a pretty big design flaw lol!
I can hear gunner crews everywhere screaming 'Aim for the fingers!'
Do like the back detail, color scheme in particular though.
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Post by: Acardia
model looks amazing, not so hot on the color scheme, but to each their own.
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Post by: CaptKaruthors
Hot damn! That thing is awesome. Methinks I'll be getting one.
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Post by: NAVARRO
BrassScorpion wrote:The Armorcast version is still pretty hot looking, probably the best looking epic upscale they ever did. The new Forge World model is also beautiful. I wonder how enthusiastic the comments in this thread will be once the price is announced for the new one?
That was my pic on the titan i did a couple years back man  Ol days
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Post by: MajorTom11
Oh, p.s to the OP
Change the name of the thread to 'Forgeworld Newsletter 2XX: Pics of Phantom Titan' or some such, otherwise we can expect at the very least 5 duplicate threads started and closed by Tuesday lol!
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Post by: Earthbeard
It looks very nice, not my cup of tea.
Everything needs Hands, well that or tentacles 
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Post by: VikingScott
Dayum!
Nice titan.
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Post by: Perkustin
FM Ninja 048 wrote:what's that weapon next to the nipple gem?
Your Mommy must have had nipples in a strange place......
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Post by: spireland
Nice looking model, though I doubt the accuracy of the newsletter. Stronger then anything from the Adeptus Mechanicus? Ridcioulous. Someone call the grey knights, I smell some heresy.
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Post by: Jackal
£400 + Weapons?
Or will they be kind enough to add those in for once?
Still prefer the AC one, more so the one NAVARRO did alot of work on.
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Post by: warboss
spireland wrote:Nice looking model, though I doubt the accuracy of the newsletter. Stronger then anything from the Adeptus Mechanicus? Ridcioulous. Someone call the grey knights, I smell some heresy.
smells to me like marketing! 
regarding the smaller eldar titan... is that a 60mm dread base he's on?
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Post by: Kanluwen
Jackal wrote:£400 + Weapons?
Or will they be kind enough to add those in for once?
Still prefer the AC one, more so the one NAVARRO did alot of work on.
If there's no alternate weapon options, they'll likely include the 'standard' loadout.
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Post by: BrassScorpion
regarding the smaller eldar titan... is that a 60mm dread base he's on?
I have a Forge World Revenant and I can assure you it will not fit on a 60mm base ( LOL). I bought a round wooden base that is 7 inches diameter and that was perfect for getting an action pose with it. The one pictured by FW is probably roughly the same size.
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Post by: ZacktheChaosChild
Even though it will most likely be the cost of my left testicle, it's awesome. I've even been tempted to start Eldar sometime soon so....
WITH the new book, of course.
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Post by: Reecius
I might have to get one to go along with my Revanant!
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Post by: Pyriel-
Still feels you buy a ton less plastic and details with this titan then with the Imperial reaver.
We don't need the rest of this post. Thanks.
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Post by: midget_overlord
spireland wrote: Stronger then anything from the Adeptus Mechanicus? Ridcioulous. Someone call the grey knights, I smell some heresy.
Stronger than anything AVAILABLE as of today. Things might change when they release the warlord titan, somewhere in the next 3 years.
For those who wonder on scale, this might help
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/AlternativeFW/xlarge/RevPulse11.jpg
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Post by: SilverMK2
That is the Revenant (the smaller titan on the first page).
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Post by: warpcrafter
I think i might have peed myself a little, and I don't even play Eldar. Damn that is awesome.
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Post by: TobyDog
blood angel wrote:Correction.. I will be buying that.. at adepticon.
Correction : you will be LOOKING at it at Adepticon.... not for sale there but rather PRE sale, but ARE for sale the same weekend at Forgeworld open day in the UK.
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Post by: blood angel
You don't read :(
AdeptiCon Update
Forge World’s Stephen Green and Kenton Mills will be travelling to the Westin Lombard Yorktown Centre in Chicago, IL, for AdeptiCon 2011 on 1st to 3rd April.
AdeptiCon attendees will be able to admire the immense Eldar Phantom Titan in all its glory, and the crack Forge World team on our sales stand will be taking exclusive advance orders for the Phantom and each of its weapon options
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Post by: warboss
combining the two pics posted shows how big of a boy he really is.
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Post by: Flashman
Oh so very nice  I too will need to win the lottery this evening
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Post by: Kanluwen
Flashman wrote:Oh so very nice I too will need to win the lottery this evening
Or enter FW's charity raffle for a pound while attending their Open Day.
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Post by: SilverMK2
Kanluwen wrote:Flashman wrote:Oh so very nice I too will need to win the lottery this evening
Or enter FW's charity raffle for a pound while attending their Open Day.
Winning the lottery is better though, as you can get 10 of them
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Post by: Kanluwen
SilverMK2 wrote:Kanluwen wrote:Flashman wrote:Oh so very nice I too will need to win the lottery this evening
Or enter FW's charity raffle for a pound while attending their Open Day.
Winning the lottery is better though, as you can get 10 of them
...
Point.
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Post by: BrookM
I say, that big china doll looks rather spiffy, I bet they need to sell a lot of those. I guess that seals the fate of the Imperials, another defeat for the Imperium it is.
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Post by: notprop
Yes it does seem almost inevitable now doesn't it. :(
Loving the Phantom, so much so I dug my Epic ones out to have a comparison. Pretty good likeness just a shame my 15 year old paint job isn't of the same standard!
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Post by: zxwarrior
Wow epic titan but the colour is really different
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Post by: midget_overlord
SilverMK2 wrote:
That is the Revenant (the smaller titan on the first page).
I know, I own 2
Warboss got the idea, I don't have photoshop at home, and work is still 2 months away, as is my revenant sadly enough :(
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Post by: muwhe
Well that's going to hurt. FW order for AdeptiCon keeps increasing.
Can resin be an addiction?
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Post by: midget_overlord
muwhe wrote:
Can resin be an addiction?
It is addictive, and just like drugs, it can kill you...
Or if the resin doesnt, the wife will!
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Post by: ph34r
It just looks like an upsized revenant titan. I don't know what I was expecting, but it was definitely something more interesting.
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Post by: Darth Bob
I think the only thing that dissapoints me about this magnificent model is the head. The cockpit is AMAZING, but the actual armored head just looks too much like a Revenant. I would have liked to see something more ornate and in-line with the Epic model.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Darth Bob wrote:I think the only thing that dissapoints me about this magnificent model is the head. The cockpit is AMAZING, but the actual armored head just looks too much like a Revenant. I would have liked to see something more ornate and in-line with the Epic model.
I almost want to say there's alternate heads. If you look at the inset from this picture:
There's a noticeably different structure to the 'face', where it looks like a skull rather than the standard 'Guardian' face.
But yeah. The head is a bit too similar to the Revenant, isn't it?
Edit was to place the picture into a spoiler; didn't realize it was a photocollage.
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Post by: The Dreadnote
Here's how it might stack up to other titans (based on the image in the OP).
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Post by: Brother Bartius
I wants it. I needs it. The precious.
Crazy considering I haven't played apocalypse in over 2 years.
How can I justify spending £500 (roughly I would imagine) to the misses.
I'd best start thinking just now.
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Post by: spireland
That's one tall guy on that scale list.
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Post by: TyraelVladinhurst
i want, but i can't justify the $1000 price tag
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Post by: Padre
That's a lovely looking kit.
More dynamic than the Armorcast model...but for some reason (whilst I love this and will get it eventually), I still slightly prefer the Epic-scale-ups of the Armorcast/Biasi/Epicast days.
I found the "the single most powerful model currently available in Warhammer 40,000" line interesting, as rumour has it that a Warlord Titan is in the works. 
From memory, I believe that the Phantom was rated power-wise somwhere slightly higher than a Warlord but well below the Imperator Emperor-class Titan. Can't see them ever making an Imperator, no way no how.
Scale wise, here is a photo of the legs of my WIP Forgeworld Reaver against the Armorcast Phantom model. For reference, the Phantom is 57.5 cms tall to the top of the fins, so I think the FW one may be slightly taller.
Padre.
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Post by: midget_overlord
spireland wrote:That's one tall guy on that scale list.
At 5'9 he's a pretty standart sized male.
I don't even fit on the scale at 6'3! (and yes, that does make me the tallest midget)
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Post by: Kroothawk
Personally, I don't like any of the Eldar Titan designs from Epic, Armorcast and Forge World: They look just like action figures with odd proportions to me. The "fembot" guns (Austin Powers) on the new one don't help. Only exception is the Warlock Titan head (without the body) and the old Armorcast Revenant Titan which looks more like a machine. Happily I own one.
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Post by: Powerguy
Man that looks awesome. I'm still crossing my fingers that it won't be too much more than the Reaver actually. Certainly its going to be taller than a Reaver, but in terms of the actual amount of material involved in its construction it probably won't be that much more (as its lithe and streamlined like all Eldar).
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Post by: Goddard
Looks like a regular Guardian to me. Albiet, a tremendously large one.
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Post by: DarthSpader
holy christ..... i think ive just found my next purchase...and the perfect thing to trump my bud's reaver. looks fricken amazing....i cant wait to dark eldar that beast up. any idea on what the rules will be for this thing?
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Post by: kenshin620
Hmmmm I dont like the fact that yea it does look like an upscaled/more detailed smaller titan. Still it looks like a quality product (unless the resin goes out). Good ol japanese space elf shenanigans inbound
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Post by: Cardinal Xaphan
All I have to say about that is:
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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Post by: Perkustin
5 foot 9 aka 69 inches isnt very tall at all. It is UK average height for a man.
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Post by: DX3
Sign me up for one!
Biel-tan love to bring the pain!
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Post by: whitedragon
Love it!
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Post by: Reanimator
This is getting ridiculous, I can barely decide which of the existing fw eldar to get, let alone introducing more stuff. Is there a rehab clinic for forgeworld addiction?
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Post by: AgeOfEgos
Any hints at price?
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Post by: Sidstyler
Here's a hint: it's going to be really stupidly high.
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Post by: BrassScorpion
Reanimator wrote: Is there a rehab clinic for forgeworld addiction?
It's called "going hungry for a while". That usually rehabilitates the addiction.
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Post by: DarthSpader
what.....one cant survive on eating leftover resin pieces from FW models?? dang....
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Post by: Kirasu
The price will based on a formula related to HEIGHT and point cost.. Not actual material
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Post by: AvatarForm
The Dreadnote wrote:Here's how it might stack up to other titans (based on the image in the OP).
Good effort, but an Epic40k upscale has the Emperor Class standing as tall as you.
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Post by: Marrak
hmm... given the sheer size of these current models I'm almost hoping for the Heirophant and Heirodule to be relooked at.
The latter, if I remember correctly, was roughly warhound/reaver sized, while the other one used to poke heads with Warlords. Now they're sitting at the ripper/termagant sized when looking at their titan-scale compatriots.
That is a pretty sweet looking eldar titan though. Not sure what the big deal is about the hands/shoulder guns. Honestly the first allows for more easily interchangeable weapon systems (and if you'll notice, it's not like it has a trigger) at the same time keeping a versatile hand (and since the thing looks to be controlled by a single pilot, who knows what the interface is like... it might even be so that the pilot feels more of a link to the body), while the latter allows the limbs to be kept free for mobility rather than weigh them down with heavy or immobilizing armaments.
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Post by: Reanimator
Maybe, just maybe, they might make a close combat arm.... That would be nice.
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Post by: sonofruss
AvatarForm wrote:The Dreadnote wrote:Here's how it might stack up to other titans (based on the image in the OP).
Good effort, but an Epic40k upscale has the Emperor Class standing as tall as you.
Yes but the apoc formation does not and that is how he is scaling it
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Post by: vaatbak
In Mechanicum they said that emperor titans are absolutly huge, making a scout titan looking like a baby next to it.
So I geus that the emperor titan should be a little bit bigger.
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Post by: sonofruss
If you want to build a 4 foot titan have at it the standard table is kinda small for that. the scale is skewed in epic each foot can hold a company of terminators in the standard one they hold 51 models.
But this is ot the Phantom looks nice and if anyone in my group get one my two titans will kill it hard core.
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Post by: Just Dave
warboss wrote:
I dunno. It's a nice kit and all and I'm a big fan of the Eldar aesthetic, but I'm actually a bit 'meh' about this kit. When you see it next to the revenant, I just find the pose and proportions seem a bit 'wrong' to me. It's a lovely kit as are the details, but I dunno, it doesn't look right to me...
That and I struggle to imagine the Eldar fielding such a large titan, but hey...
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Post by: The Dreadnote
sonofruss wrote:AvatarForm wrote:Good effort, but an Epic40k upscale has the Emperor Class standing as tall as you.
Yes but the apoc formation does not and that is how he is scaling it
That's right. I'm using the size comparison with a warhound provided in it's apocalypse datasheet in order to determine it's height. If you'd like to learn more there's a link to the thread in my signature.
I have to say though, I find it odd that people are quick to point out that space marine artwork gives them wacky proportions and tiny heads, but are even quicker to suggest that emperor titans should be hundreds of meters tall.
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Post by: thesilverback
Very cool looking titan but dang it is going to cost a small fortune.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Concerning Titans, here is a very weak rumour posted on Warseer, not deserving its own thread. I just wanted to mention it, so make a mental note and move on
R3DM0H4WK wrote:According to a rumour Floating around my local gamesworkshop, staff members are claiming a super heavy release in september whats also got my attention about this rumour is they said it to be a Generic mars warhound titan at roughly £100, Now! before people go bezerk on my ass this is a very scarce rumour and i was wondering if people could look further into the issue and find out if there is any truth in it?
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Post by: Alpharius
I WANT it to be a MARS Pattern Warhound that eventually gets made in plastic, but sadly, doesn't the other one (Lucius? Wolf? Something-or-other?) make more sense, in all of its boring squareness?
Still - go Mars go!
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I can see them doing a plastic version of one of their most popular Titans. The Warhound makes the most sense as well as, unlike the Thunderhawk, there are more armies that can use it.
Not that they won't eventually do a plastic Thunderhawk - there are more than enough Marine players to justify that. It's just that with the Warhound you add Guard players and Chaos players on top of all the Marine players.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Alpharius wrote:I WANT it to be a MARS Pattern Warhound that eventually gets made in plastic, but sadly, doesn't the other one (Lucius? Wolf? Something-or-other?) make more sense, in all of its boring squareness?
...DO NOT DISS THE SQUARES!
For they bring right angled death!
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Post by: Tacobake
A thread in the not-so-distant-future: "Guess what I bought today..."
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Post by: D.Smith
Either i need to win this in the charity raffle at the FW open day or I need a hell of a bonus
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Post by: Just Dave
D.Smith wrote: or I need a hell of a bonus
Not a banker are you?
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Post by: D.Smith
Lmao no if I was i'd be able to afford the whole FW catalogue lol
I hate bankers (the big bonus earning ones, any normal people reading this that work in a bank do not be offended )
.....hmmmm a similar word comes to mind lol
Dan
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Post by: Daston
Looks amazing! May have to talk my bro inlaw into getting one for his army
Now Imperial chaps have a mid sized Titan, Tau have the Manta, Eldar now have their largest war machine....when do Orks get a slasher gargent or great gargent???? 
Guess we will have to wait till they put the other clans in a IA book.
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Post by: Savnock
Daston wrote:Now Imperial chaps have a mid sized Titan, Tau have the Manta, Eldar now have their largest war machine....when do Orks get a slasher gargent or great gargent????
Honestly can't see FW sculpting a $1000 fig for something that most folks could model out of a few plastic garbage cans and toilet paper tubes.
As for the Warhound rumor: This will make fielding full maniples of them a lot more practical, and would further the Apoc arms race quite a bit. The FW [maybe WD?] datasheets that allow Warhounds to actually act as scouts would become a lot more practical and powerful...
And back on the original topic, the Phantom is a thing of beauty, and a good number of Eldar players are pretty impractical aesthetes at heart- so the numbers they sell will probably be decent. I'm very, very tempted to waste this year's tax return on that thing.
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Post by: BrookM
P-p-p-p-p-plastic Warhound? 
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Post by: CrPhoenix
Well this is defo a reason to stop smoking. Thats at least 21 pound a week saved XD get there eventually
Any clue when its gonna be offically released on the site?
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Post by: blood angel
578 US for the body. 83 US each for the weapon arms..
Still needz it!
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Post by: BrassScorpion
Latest from Forge World, Newsflash - AdeptiCon 2011: AdeptiCon 2011 Forge World’s Stephen Green and Kenton Mills will shortly be winging their way to the Westin Lombard Yorktown Centre in Chicago, IL, for AdeptiCon 2011 held on the 1st - 3rd April. AdeptiCon attendees can pre-order the immense Eldar Phantom Titan, which will be on display in the Vendor Hall, and also purchase our Event Only MkIII Armoured Boarding Marine and Chaos Dwarf Hellsmith miniatures. We’ll also have limited stock available of the Shadow Spectres Exarch, Eldar Lynx with Pulsar and Lynx with Sonic Lance, plus a few unreleased models for you to see and pre-order well in advance of their scheduled release. As well as getting a chance to be the first to get a look at these new models, you can also meet Kenton Mills, one of the talented graphic artists responsible for Forge World’s range of Decal sheets and Etched Brass symbols. This man of many talents also produces many of the colour profiles that adorn the Imperial Armour range and his work can be found in Imperial Armour Volume 8 as well as our best-selling Badab War series. Kenton will be happy to autograph copies of these lavish books at the event. If you have any queries about the Forge World presence at AdeptiCon, please don’t hesitate to contact us either by telephone on 011 44 115 916 8177 or by sending an e-mail titled ‘AdeptiCon’ to Forgeworld@games-workshop.co. uk. Phantom Titan Pricing Update With the very first Phantom Titans being boxed up for the Forge World Open Day at Warhammer World this weekend, we can now confirm that the Titan body will be £350 ($578), while the D-Cannon and Pulsar weapon options will be £50 ($83) each. We will have a limited number available at the Forge World Open Day, and AdeptiCon attendees will be able to advance order the mighty Phantom Titan for despatch well in advance of the pre-order date for this magnificent kit. Forge World Open Day Reservations Deadline We are currently finalising our Open Day stock, and there is still time to place a reservation order for collection at the event on Sunday 3rd April. Please call the Customer Service team by 2pm on Wednesday 30th March, as after this point we can’t guarantee we’ll be able to pick and pack your order in time. The Forge World Customer Service team can be reached on 0115 916 8177 between 9am and 6pm, Monday to Friday. Forge World Games Workshop Ltd Willow Road, Lenton Nottingham, NG7 2WS Registered in England & Wales Company Registration Number 01467092 Phone: 0115 916 8177 Fax: 0115 916 8044 Web site: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/
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Post by: The Dreadnote
£450 doesn't seem that bad really.
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Post by: BrassScorpion
The Dreadnote wrote:£450 doesn't seem that bad really.
Wow, people have really gotten inured to Forge World prices if that doesn't seem "that bad". Not that I've never bought an overpriced FW model, I have, but I never deluded myself that the price was not that bad. LOL.
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Post by: AgeOfEgos
I think that's cheaper than a Reaver after you consider weapons.
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Post by: spireland
I think I've narrowed it down to why I'm not a fan. Needs more cowbell.
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Post by: The Dreadnote
AgeOfEgos wrote:I think that's cheaper than a Reaver after you consider weapons.
Yeah, about £100 cheaper.
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Post by: BrassScorpion
AgeOfEgos wrote:I think that's cheaper than a Reaver after you consider weapons.
And the Reaver is not exactly priced to move either. I'd love to have one, especially a Chaos Reaver, but I think I've purchased enough criminally overpriced FW models to last me for quite a while.
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Post by: The Dreadnote
What kind of price would you be prepared to buy it at?
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Post by: Tacobake
That is honestly surprising it is so "cheap" maybe it does not weigh as much as the Reaver.
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Post by: BrassScorpion
What kind of price would you be prepared to buy it at?
Well, I bought a Chaos Warhound back in 2005 at the Battle Bunker HQ store in Maryland, but I don't think I'd do that again. The time it takes to build these kinds of models as well as the high cost is something I'd like to avoid with so many other projects to do. I suppose if FW suddenly reworked their entire price structure to where a Reaver was equal to or less than a Warhound currently costs I'd be tempted, but even then I'd probably have second thoughts about it because of the time and care these models take. Maybe after I finish painting my Chaos Warhound, Eldar Revenant, two Hellblades and a lot more of the ton of regular GW stuff I own I'll revisit the issue. Those Reavers are really nice looking, but with so much else to work on I can't justify the insane expense.
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Post by: DX3
I'm in.
I had budgeted $1000 for this.. so, WooHoo!
(Heck, throw a new Lynx in my shopping bag!)
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Post by: Cypher's Sword
If you look cloesly at this pictures of the head from the back it kinda looks like the face/head plate comes off to reveal the "skull" and pilot. If I wasn't a low budget gamer i would start an eldar army with this lol.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Cypher's Sword wrote:If you look cloesly at this pictures of the head from the back it kinda looks like the face/head plate comes off to reveal the "skull" and pilot. If I wasn't a low budget gamer i would start an eldar army with this lol.
They're two different heads, actually. You can tell because the skull-faced head has the exact same characteristics as the 'standard' head, just with the blank face replaced by the skull face instead.
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Post by: Cypher's Sword
Kanluwen wrote:Cypher's Sword wrote:If you look cloesly at this pictures of the head from the back it kinda looks like the face/head plate comes off to reveal the "skull" and pilot. If I wasn't a low budget gamer i would start an eldar army with this lol.
They're two different heads, actually. You can tell because the skull-faced head has the exact same characteristics as the 'standard' head, just with the blank face replaced by the skull face instead.
oh well in that case, I'd love to see a battle damaged skull faced version. i remember buying the battle damaged gundams back in the day for like double the price and thinking that they were the coolest thing since the self flushing toilet.
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Post by: Tacobake
Dakka_X3 wrote:I'm in.
I had budgeted $1000 for this.. so, WooHoo!
(Heck, throw a new Lynx in my shopping bag!)
Yeah honestly that is much, much cheaper than I was expecting. I mean it is my first Forge World model but man what a beaut.
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Post by: CaptKaruthors
I'm totally looking forward to the rules for this. Hopefully they'll be as kick ass as the model itself.
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Post by: midget_overlord
Cypher's Sword wrote:Kanluwen wrote:Cypher's Sword wrote:If you look cloesly at this pictures of the head from the back it kinda looks like the face/head plate comes off to reveal the "skull" and pilot. If I wasn't a low budget gamer i would start an eldar army with this lol.
They're two different heads, actually. You can tell because the skull-faced head has the exact same characteristics as the 'standard' head, just with the blank face replaced by the skull face instead.
oh well in that case, I'd love to see a battle damaged skull faced version. i remember buying the battle damaged gundams back in the day for like double the price and thinking that they were the coolest thing since the self flushing toilet.
My money is still on it being the inside of the head. Just like the revenant, you can open it up to see inside. Just like the warhound and the reavers as well. There is no point in having the pilot being exposed, and seeing how all forgeworld titan have accesible crew compatements, it just makes sense.
We'll all find out on sunday when our friends start posting pics of the event either way.
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Post by: Daston
Would love a second head, would be great for an imperial diorama of a dig site or something
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Post by: Kanluwen
midget_overlord wrote:Cypher's Sword wrote:Kanluwen wrote:Cypher's Sword wrote:If you look cloesly at this pictures of the head from the back it kinda looks like the face/head plate comes off to reveal the "skull" and pilot. If I wasn't a low budget gamer i would start an eldar army with this lol.
They're two different heads, actually. You can tell because the skull-faced head has the exact same characteristics as the 'standard' head, just with the blank face replaced by the skull face instead.
oh well in that case, I'd love to see a battle damaged skull faced version. i remember buying the battle damaged gundams back in the day for like double the price and thinking that they were the coolest thing since the self flushing toilet.
My money is still on it being the inside of the head. Just like the revenant, you can open it up to see inside. Just like the warhound and the reavers as well. There is no point in having the pilot being exposed, and seeing how all forgeworld titan have accesible crew compatements, it just makes sense.
We'll all find out on sunday when our friends start posting pics of the event either way.
He's referring to this photo(click spoiler to see it; only photo I readily have is a collage and it's the inset part within the first image).
It's pretty clearly the "inside of the head", and that it opens up to let you see the pilot within.
Now, it's entirely possible that the main 'head' part that we see in the inset is an entirely separate piece, over which the bananaheaded, guardian faced bit locks over.
We'll have to wait and see on that I guess.
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Post by: Commander Cain
Even thought I may not be a fan of eldar personally, I have to say that FW have produced an excellent model, the proportions are much more appealing than the other eldar titans. A great model overall. it seems to be lacking something but I can not place my mind on what it is.
At £450 I know I will never buy it but I am sure there are people who will be prepared to pay to get the model due to its superb detail.
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Post by: Savnock
CaptKaruthors wrote:I'm totally looking forward to the rules for this. Hopefully they'll be as kick ass as the model itself.
Oh sweet Jeebus PLEASE let that be so.
HEY- You hear that Forgeworld? PLEASE make us actually want to buy the pretty model. Bad rules would be an epic fail for all involved.
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Post by: AvatarForm
Anyone attending Adepticon able to get me one of each?
Event Only MkIII Armoured Boarding Marine and Chaos Dwarf Hellsmith miniatures.
And maybe the Shadow Spectre Exarch, if this is a limited run?
PM me what you think is fair.
Thanks.
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Post by: Warboss Narznok
Well the question we should be asking is how powerful is the ELDAR REVENANT TITAN??? And maybe we can determine how powerful the new PHANTOM TITAN is.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
It has the POWER OF CAPSLOCK!
*ahem*
Revenants are exceptionally powerful. Two Strength D Lances a turn is a nightmare, and they're so fast and unusually durable than they can cut through most things in very little time. In a pair, as I've had done to me by a friend, they are nightmarish.
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Post by: prototype_X
ME WANT A LOOTED ONE
boss watz dat?
dunno but its dead killly
*sssshhhhooomm* blood and guts everywher tank peices flying about
oi bugnutz
wat boss
git me one of dem.
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Post by: Reanimator
It seems that although they are making the guns more powerful versions of the exisitng weapons (i.e. by putting the word phantom in front of them) it's still only got 2 major weapons, which will probably limit the damage it can do per turn unless they have ri-donk-ulous blast markers or numbers of shots. I would hope instead that they've made it considerable more durable than the standard eldar armour, maybe with something akin to void shields, albeit more eldar-y.
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Post by: Powerguy
Well a Pulsar is already a multiple Blast D weapon, so really the only way they can make it more powerful is to increase the number of shots and the size of the blasts. You probably have to include the chest missile launchers as a main weapon as well actually, and the Starcannon or whatever it is on the chest as well looks a tad big to be a standard weapon. Eldar don't do Void Shields, so expect it to have something crazy like a 3+ Holofield save as long as it moves. Anyway I'm very happy with that price, as I suspected it ends up cheaper than a Reaver because it uses less material. I might even be able to buy it now
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Post by: reds8n
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff
no titan but lots of other cool/new stuff
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Post by: ShatteredBlade
I've already started saving for one. My only concern is the condition the resin model will be in. I've not been too impressed with their casting.
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Post by: D.Smith
The casting is very clean compared to the other FW models ive had. Very little clean up to be done really, maybe some slight mould, lines but its actually in very good shape with only very minor warping that will only take 2 seconds to sort.
Should be on general sale by Games day UK Will Hyes was saying.
As for some of the rules that i can actually remember,
(hey said they are still likely to be tweaked)
Pulsar str D Heavy 3 blast
D Cannon - str D Heavy 1 large blast
4+ holo field save
D-Cannon ignores void sheilds
12" minimum range for the chest/shoulder weapons vs ground units
AV13 on the front (this is hazy memory but i remember being suprised)
Cannot remember any more specifics but these were the ones i remember and even so, are quite vague as i didnt take pictures, only dragging from memory.
Dan
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