Hey, after looking over Ebay for weeks I won a great bargain of 3 LR's for £24 excluding P+P. I knew they needed some TLC and work on them so I'm asking you guys (and girls) what's the best thing to do

LR 1 - Is all there just missing side weapons (sponsors and TL bolter on front). Can you buy them separately from somewhere?

LR 2 - Is like LR 1, but also lacks top of assault ramp and that whole middle piece the TL weapon sits on.

LR 3 - Is really just a shell, easier to say that it is both tracks the main top piece and the back engine block thing.

I have already started looking over bits websites but didn't know if you dakkites could throw some of your knowledge on to this matter. Am i better just building LR 3 back with pasticard? if so any good websites? also thought about buying a new LR kit and using spares on this lot, do you get many spares to do this (this is an expensive idea though)?

Dullblade35

For Weapons you can buy the Crusader upgrade sprue, which will allow you to build either a Crusader or Redeemer and to add a Hunter Killer, Storm bolter and/or a multi melta.

For the replacement access ramp if it is the upper part you could buy a set of the forge world ones or ask someone who has had FW land raider doors if they have a spare top part they may be willing to trade.

I was in a similar position and was given a very beaten up Chaos Land Raider and have restored it to being a Crusader just recently. I had to find a way to rebuild the bottom of the assault ramp and ended up using the spare Chimera back plates (from the Hellhound and Manticore kits) to rebuild it.

As for the third one, well you could use the methods above and then rebuild the missing parts in a similar way that I did or find another way all together. Or trade it to an Ork play


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Oh you could try to locate other people who have had FW Land Raiders (MkII or one of the other variants) as they may have sponson weapons. It is worth a look, you might want to post in the swap shop for what you are looking for.

Start playing Orks, if you can't restore them.

Iv looked at the Upgade spures buy apparently (correct me if I'm wrong. please.) that they don't include the actual sponsors themselves as im lacking the whole thing not just the guns.

Ramp wise its looking like I might have to start asking around

As for the third I'm a Ork player first so it may become looted very fast but I kinda wanted to sell one once there restored to pay for themselves its no loss if not

The third one might make a sweet terrain piece.

Also, it will impress any potential partners you bring around .. I'm lead to believe that nothing is as effective at winning the heart of another than saying "Look baby, I'm so fly I can afford to use Land Raiders as terrain."

Just don't let them see your 1982 Corolla out the front.

I also recently picked up a landraider minus a few bits. I have had a little luck with redeeming it. I really wish somebody sold the land raider weapons sprue it would make life easier. The solution I have come up so far for replacing the hatches and weapons has been picking up a terminus ultra kit for replacement of the HB plus a few extra bits I've been needing for side projects and picking up a lot of LR bits of of eBay for the hatches.

I still have yet to decide how to approach the tl lascannons...It came with some chaosed up ones with a few missing parts but I'm not looking forward to messing with them.

Definitely check out ebay. normally there are guys on there that "part out" sprues, so you can get exactly what you need, normally for less than 10 bucks. and no waiting on FW for stuff.

Zuul wrote:I still have yet to decide how to approach the tl lascannons...

Could be wrong, but isn't that the same part that comes with a Razorback?

If you're playing Black Templar then PM me. I've got the chapter specific assault ramp top (plastic) if you're interested in a trade.

Conandoodle wrote:The third one might make a sweet terrain piece. I'm lead to believe that nothing is as effective at winning the heart of another than saying "Look baby, I'm so fly I can afford to use Land Raiders as terrain."

Just don't let them see your 1982 Corolla out the front.

This made me laugh so much but it doesn't matter about the Corolla...... my other car is a LR

Sigmundr wrote:Definitely check out ebay. normally there are guys on there that "part out" sprues, so you can get exactly what you need, normally for less than 10 bucks. and no waiting on FW for stuff.

Im always on to look out on there for anything related to warhammer so I'm sure something will come up.


As im restoring them im goin to need to deciede which variant of the LR im going to be using is it the crusade which is most popular (TL hurricane bolters?) or should i just make them with what ever i can

Thanks Savis for the ramp piece just arrived. waiting for a few more pieces from bit stores and ebay and i'll put some pics up

Will put some pics up of current condition as well like a before then after

there are a few places that sell everything you need for your landraider variants.


$20 on the GW site
$16 at Bitz Barn

Bitz Barn also has the TL-LC sprue for the same price.

also, check out Bitz Box as they have the top of the front assault ramp in stock and they have the LR kit broken down pretty well.

That picture show...how would you name that sprue for searching for it on them sites as this is the first mention of it iv seen, would be great if i can get 1

I keep getting bits hear and there as I see them about

Thanks though for the heads up on them. I'll get searching.

That's the Crusader/Redeemer conversion kit - it's in the Bitz section on GW's site.

Found it, i have actually been silly all this time might get 1 of these and see what it fills up on my 3 LR after the bits i already have.

I might be done after 1

Deathklaat wrote:there are a few places that sell everything you need for your landraider variants.

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Bitz Barn also has the TL-LC sprue for the same price.

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Bitz barn's website has shown the TL-LC sprue to out of stock for at least a few months now.

I literally just got one of the kits from GW a few days ago.

Of course, that was at GW price!

@BloodQuest I know the feeling here's an update to where i'm at.

Got 2 pairs of sponsons minus guns, a ramp, waiting on 2 big middle pieces.

Got my new desk so i can start work on modelling finally. no work has bin done just bits founds and bought.

Ihese are the before images I said I would throw up. (First time uploading pictures on here):

All three:


LR1


LR2


LR3

Wow. Those LR's are pretty banged up. Good luck to you with the rebuild. Are you gonna strip back the paint or are you going to just paint over the existing work?

The Machine Spirit cries in unconsolable agony.

@dragoons Haha, its probably going be abit of filing, sand paper, stripping then strategic painting

@Goddard I couldn't leave them in this state so started the project

Try apocabitz now.com, in US. I got an entire Landraider, bit by bit, from them; even with postage to UK it worked out cheaper than buying the whole kit fro GW.

Well done for getting a bargain i am quite jealous as i normally go for stuff like this and restore it. (yeah not all my pics are in the order I did it, you live and learn!)

I got one of these in a bad condition, I bought the spares i needed off Bits sites or from people at my local gaming club. I also took the opportunity to Magnetise them as I don't fancy forking out £30 everytime i want to change weapons load out!

1st - Get rid of anything on there you don't want (badly glued parts, drill out bits or prise parts off) then using files and knives neaten the whole model up (get rid of bad edges or left over components. I have a Dremel type thing with a nifty grinder head which allows me to neaten cement destroyed sections. Like so..



2nd - Get some Fairy Power Spray and in the Kitchen sink spray it and leave it a couple of hours. Then with a cheap or old tooth brush rub off the old crap paint job + Dirt and dust that many models get.



3rd - Wash it clean and then dry it and rub it down. Then add any replacement parts . I put new Weapon sponsons on it + magnets , cut off the parts that didn't fit.



4th - Once happy Prime it and you are good to go....





Here is mine after a revamp (80% done, needs some neatening up, highlighting and Marker pen detailing)....PIMP MY RAIDER....Good Luck.

@IG GENERAL iv looks all over thanks for the link tho

@Mwnciboo Sweet thanks for the tips, is fairy power spray best thing for the job, I think iv been using nail polish remover in the past and I've heard lots of things work.

Bits wise I have most of them now just missing the actual guns to put on the sponsons, and the front TL AC or what ever goes there

those land raiders would make great ork toyz....

Dullblade35 - Yeah Fairy power spray is the Dogs *******'s for this. It is cheaper (per milli-litre) than dettol or nail polish remover and isn't as bad on the lungs (although it's probably not great for your skin!).

The best thing about Fairy Power Spray is washes off easily where as Dettol stinks and makes your model stink. I spray old ebay models that I pick up cheap, Spray this stuff on and leave them 24hours rub them with a brush and viola a very neat model. Works exceptionally well with metal models and makes picking up crappily painted OOP models a doddle...

1. Buy Model

2. Spray Model

3. Rub Model

4. Wash Model Thoroughly

Done..

See this Article...(articles are great!)

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Dakka_Modeling_FAQ:_How_to_Strip...

Sweet, i'll get some next time in the supermarket.

Going to start cleaning them up soon.

Lord Scythican wrote:Start playing Orks, if you can't restore them.

Seconded.

I warn you now this is my first attempt at stripping paint of a model, lucky for my I chose to dive in the deep end with these big thickly painted LR's. I wish it wasnt these but oh well Any way as first attempts go, it was a failure..... I set the models in the bath and sprayed them, with the whole top florr smelling of a healthy clean smell i opened some windows and left for about 2 hours, i returned to dry models and decided to scrub them clean. After 2 hours of scrubbing i gave up this was my result.



i came to the conclusion it wasnt on for long enough and must have evaporated so it needed to be in an air tight container, after looking i found this, fits the LR perfectly:



thick coat of spray and top on :



it is still soaking as i write this.

Just so everyone knows the stuff i'm using its :

They won't look like new, but when you prime them they will look good, it is the price you pay with Plastic. With Metal you can get it damn near perfect, with plastic it will be 80% - 90% Solution. The one i did looked awful until I had Primed it and then it looked pretty good.

I have an old RT landraider that has been repainted a few times with acrylic paints (oh the folly of youth). Would this Fairy power spray dent that?

Not exactly a great bargain... I have 2 useless LR hulls sitting around. Bits sites buy the LRC and sell the weapons, leaving the hull useless. Unless you want 3 LRC, in which case you will end up paying out the nose for weapons.

I bought replacement parts for everything on my LR. Dakka Swaps helped me out, I posted I was missing the LR Floor plate and some one offered one up and some spare weapons (Heavy Flamers etc) and a load of other spares and I bought the lot off him £15. Now for £40 I have one reclaimed magnetised LR with 3 sets of magnetised Weapons, and Magnetised Doors so it can be change to a LANDRAIDER TERMINUS ULTRA for Apoc. I think that's pretty good considering a new one, with one weapons set is £34.

So taking it logically, 34 x 3 = £102. Dullblade has bought 3 partially together LR's for £24 + P&P. Add in a further £25 for spares new weapons, and parts that = £50 for 3 LR's? How is that not a bargain?

@Howard A Treesong: I'm new to this stuff as well so I wish I new the answer

@ph34r: i know what you mean but if you look at the price of a LR hulls about £20 each no weapons then just to get 3 for £30 is very cheap even considering the lack of weapons. Also i know this is a long shot but its a project for fun to try save these worn LR's

i will put a thing in swap shop but i'll make a call on here too if have any LR weapons please contact me by PM

bitz barn,apocabitz,and the landraider upgrade spue are good.if you need bit by bit then go on american ebay coz its so cheap

Conandoodle wrote:The third one might make a sweet terrain piece.

Also, it will impress any potential partners you bring around .. I'm lead to believe that nothing is as effective at winning the heart of another than saying "Look baby, I'm so fly I can afford to use Land Raiders as terrain."

Just don't let them see your 1982 Corolla out the front.

Try Simple Green. Soak a couple of hours in it full strength and any hobby type acrylic paint will brush right off. Commercial type spray paints are tougher and you probably won't get all of that off

If you can't get a proper LR forward turret, try either Baneblade sponson turrets or a Chimera turret, and make up some fluff about "field repairs" if you have to

Brotherjulian is right about Simple Green. The problem being that you cannot easily get it in the UK. There is a website you can buy it from but you have to buy it in reasonably large amounts. I cannot justify spending £35 + p&p for 5 litres of stuff. I'd rather buy another Landraider .

As a Brit i get well cheesed off with how well our American Cousins do, their stuff is reasonably cheap and they get tools and cheap Airbrushes from Harbour Freight, cheap stripping agents, cheap ebay, lets face it the US has it pretty good (standfast their awful postal service)

I WANNA LOOT 'EM!!!

Land Raider kit parting out right now on ebay! (With buy it now prices)

For #1, I'd go with eBay and pick up some spare Lascanons (or kit-bash them with platicard and plastic tubes)
For #2, if it were me... I'd pick up a Vindicator kit and some bits from the Crusader/Redeemer sprue and make a Land Raider Ares
#3... yeesh... Don't know what you can do with that one besides heavy use of card or turn it into terrain.

Still, for the price, I think you got off pretty well!

I don't wanna necro....but I wanna stop worrying about those poor machine spirits :*(

I fear i have kind of killed this thread so looks like not only am i restoring the LR's i need to keep on top of this *lesson learnt*

Anyway atm i have restored and moddelled all other LR's base Chassis to a good standard just missing the weapons.

LR 1 has its LC sponsons finished, its lacking the HB turret.

LR 2 has a fully complete Chassis and a AC turret.

LR 3 (the lost one) .... has been saved is fully built bar weapons

I have some turrets and stuff on the way atm and I'll post some pics of the LR atm

You guys have to keep on my back if i don't update

Well I think if you finish them up with a decent paint job those Machine Spirits will devote themselves too you there full table top life time...Maybe even bad JuJu some enemy glance / pen rolls.

-Sincerely Viri

Viridian wrote:Well I think if you finish them up with a decent paint job those Machine Spirits will devote themselves too you there full table top life time...Maybe even bad JuJu some enemy glance / pen rolls.

-Sincerely Viri

Thanks for the vote of confidence

He's the pics I promised

LR1





LR2





LR3 (The lost)

Oh how wondafewl!

Omnissiah's face = :3

Looking great, glad too se the forward hatch coming to good use. Keep us updated.

Are the inner lascannons slightly longer than the outer ones? It looks good...

Yeah they are, makes it look abit nicer and still looks deadly

Been a while... again... but here is the best 2 so far:

LR2-Crusader





LR3- The Lost



Tell me what you think

VERY NICE!

Thanks Painting is going to start soon

Those are looking really sweet! What colour scheme are you heading for? Templars?

Yeh, Black,white and Dark Reds. They still need some little pieces but all can just be slotted in and painted separate.

Can't wait to get started

Looking good man. I knew it could be done, but damn some of those were lost causes at the beginning

I know looking back its massive how they have changed

For the better I hope

Indeed good sir, I congratulate you, it's actually really cool Keep up the good work, you should make a before and after comparison picture when you are done. Looking forawrd too the pictures of the painted models ;D Clearly you are one talented scavinging ork ;P

Nice save on those raiders mate.At first i thought it was a lost cause and im glad you proved me wrong.Next time i need to strip mini's ill try the fairy stuff although im partial to cheap floorcleaner myself(for mini's not drinking).

I recommend Fairy powerspary so much after using it, I left some sentinel bits in with it for about a month and stripped them well and didn't hurt the model at all

shingouki wrote:Nice save on those raiders mate.At first i thought it was a lost cause and im glad you proved me wrong.Next time i need to strip mini's ill try the fairy stuff although im partial to cheap floorcleaner myself(for mini's not drinking).

Using random cheap floor cleaners is a good way to waste money, and will damage your models if you pick one that has the wrong solvent (e.g. acetone).

Fairy Power Spray is, simply put, the most effective paint stripper available. It's not sold in the US though... but you're fine if you're in the UK

I recommend fairy every time.

Anyway heres an update on the LRC as it is now painted, let me know if you see anything iv missed or need to rectify.(Btw i know that it lacking a multimelta and 1 cover ) Also any tips on painting well then share them Enjoy ( I hope) ..






Edit...

Just seen that I have forgot to paint the lights

Nice save. I physically shuddered when I saw the pink torn up one.

It's clear you were the right person for the job. They went from awful to beautiful.

Oi, my painting ain't that good Its still missing the multimelta god there harder to get so i might have to improvise my own for it (like i did with the assault cannons).

Also, depending on how comfortable you are with the prospect, plasticard could be used for the main bodies of the LR's, then just use the upgrade sprues for weapons and whatnot

The main bodies all all finished look over the pics in the thread just the odd bit here and there to finish them

That Crusader is really nice! The assault cannons are upside down though.

Hey pal, they look brilliant i saw this thread a couple of months ago so glad to find it again and see the work you have put in has paid off! Something to be proud of!! Really like the TL Assault Cannon turret, how did you make it???

Hey man,

I just wanted to say that I saw your thread about a month ago and then again today. Night and day, those three raiders look great!

-MightyG

niallkissick wrote:Hey pal, they look brilliant i saw this thread a couple of months ago so glad to find it again and see the work you have put in has paid off! Something to be proud of!! Really like the TL Assault Cannon turret, how did you make it???

Thanks for the encouragement, the TL AC is made from the under slung AC on the landspeeder or it may be from the Ravenwing (DA boss guy) the cradle is meant to hold 1 AC and a light i just put them both on and flipped them over.

@Brother SRM. i realise that they are upside down but does it matter aslong as bullets come out of the right side then im happy, makes it up a bit more unique.

Thanks everyone else for the support

I've got about 8 spare covers I got from a bitz bag just sitting around in my box

Dunno if they're any use to you, if so just send me a self addressed envelope with a stamp on it

Are they the top covers for Storm bolters to be mounted to or guys to poke out of? cos if so they would be great

dullblade35 wrote:Are they the top covers for Storm bolters to be mounted to or guys to poke out of? cos if so they would be great

Believe I've got both types. I'll go check out what's sat in the box and post back

Noticing that you're a BT player, I've got some BT icons too if you want em.

Wouldn't mind any spare troop bits you happen to have laying about, if there are any :p

Anything like that would be greatly appreciated. Any bits of a LR, a whole one if you have know hanging around jkin


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i'll have a look around

You're in luck. I've got 7 (Yes, 7!) Bolter mountable covers, and one regular.

Two covers for these, so that they're shut ports

Three Black Templar Cross & Sword icons

Top half of a sponson weapon cover

BT Cross with Censer

2 x Long trackpiece, 6 x 2 plate length trackpieces and 4 x Singular length trackpieces.
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Hope that helps out

I'll take a look through my Vindicator remains too

I'm liking:
The BT icons all of them,
at least 4 covers including 2 that shut.
are the track peices LR wide ones? if so i need a bottom front 1 and 2 single ones.

Any preference on the troop bits?

dullblade35 wrote:I'm liking:
The BT icons all of them,
at least 4 covers including 2 that shut.
are the track peices LR wide ones? if so i need a bottom front 1 and 2 single ones.

Any preference on the troop bits?

The tracks I've not got a clue on, they look about a centimeter wide.

Rest of it is yours, I've got no use for any of it ;D

As for troop bits, Anything really. Got a fledgling marine army, but I wouldn't mind some more bits for Tactical squads, but anything will do to be honest. I'll happily swap bitz for bitz :p

hmmm, well there either rhino tracks for LR, look at my pic and see it you can judge it. I'll have a bout and see what I have.

Yeah, Definately not LR tracks looking at that.


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Update: You've also got a gunner, mountable missile launcher, various vehicle accessories and a Black Templars backpack tossed in.

haha kk then, shame cos i need some for the last 1 and its looking like i'll have to splash out some more money

Anyways thats loads, hope i find enough to make it a fair trade

Nice, but the red insert on the Raider looks like it could use another couple of thinned coats of red; right now the coverage appears very blotchy.

I was going to say get the doors from the Chapter upgrade set, but looks like you already did lol

Popsicle wrote:Nice, but the red insert on the Raider looks like it could use another couple of thinned coats of red; right now the coverage appears very blotchy.

yeh i need to have another go at it make it cleaner looking, anyone know how to make paint not dry out as fast on the palette?

Shoopaloop wrote:
I was going to say get the doors from the Chapter upgrade set, but looks like you already did lol

I only got the one, and that was kindly donated It was the reason i collected BT

dullblade35 wrote:... anyone know how to make paint not dry out as fast on the palette?

As it happens, I do.

Very nice work, glad to see that the front hatch got such a nice cover.

Popsicle wrote:

dullblade35 wrote:... anyone know how to make paint not dry out as fast on the palette?

As it happens, I do.

Great i'll get some do you add that whilst its on the pallet or in the paint tub?

Savis wrote:Very nice work, glad to see that the front hatch got such a nice cover.

it did, i thank you again

Popsicle wrote:

dullblade35 wrote:... anyone know how to make paint not dry out as fast on the palette?

As it happens, I do.

Or, you could just use a wet palette, you can make them from common stuff around the house. It's always a good idea to have one. http://www.tobi-design.com/miniatures/tips/tips_wet_palette.htm

Wow thanks i was thinking of investing in one but if you can make one then looks like i have to ;P

Go to ebay, theres a store called Hoard'o'bits.

You have forsaken Mork and he is angry with you not giving at least one of these to his boys for some killy fun time.

Now onto a serious non Orky disapointed statement.
LR1 is looking phenominal. Am impressed by the progress attained throughout this posts history.

New update:

Pictures first :


LR1.


LR2.


LR3.



As you can now see all are at least basecoated,
Lists of individual changes:-
LR1
- New top hatches.
- Heavy bolter turret finished.
- general sandpaper on clean up.

LR2
-New top hatch
-Basecoated multimelta turret and gunner

LR3
-Hatches complete
-Missing track covered with armour plate
-Engine cover
-BT icon

I have never seen how the Landraider design has not been blown apart my critics, here you have the armour of the imperium AV14 all round, and some bright spark decided to put the engine outside the hull for all to see and pick it off, well as you can see here:

i have incorporated the engine into the hull and with solid doors for protection.

The missing bottom piece of track was made with the old top peice and cut to bend it to the shape of the tank, an armor plate is then mounted like the Assault launches would be.

Rest of the recent pictures: