Well, this is my first thread here on Dakka(not counting introductions), just thought I'd share some of the things I'm working on. Everything is in a state of work in progress, but eventually I hope to have it all done. Let me know what you think.

Note, this is my first time attempting to take pics, so I apologize for any poor picture quality.

I still have a bit more greenstuff work to do to him, I need to finish the exhaust stacks and disguise the toothpick shoulder spikes (make them less obvious as toothpicks) but he's on his way.
I also have a Landraider I've been working on for about a month now that is in about the same stage of conversion, except that I just started the greenstuff on it.
Also a couple of squads of Chaos Marines and Terminators... plus a Vindicator. I'll add more to the army after I get some of these finished.

likin it so far. also, dun worry, the picture quality is perfectly fine.

And some more of him...

Well, that's what I'd call a nice Dreadnought! Excellent job here!

I think this thread starts promisingly, and deserves to be followed.

Do you have pics of your other WIPs?

Excellent conversion work so far! Can't wait to see pics of that LR.
Iron within! Iron without!

I have to say, that is a damn fine job

Only one suggestion: straighten up some the edges on those GS armour details (e.g. lascannon star details)

coming along very nicely, cant wait to see it painted

Thanks guys.

@Hyenajoe- I don't really have any pics of my other stuff just yet, but the will follow soon...

@SickSick- The LandRaider is going to be shot soon, and if you like scratch built additions you'll like it I think... for now lets just say that non functioning plastic DVD players have their uses....

@Leigen_Zero- My GS skills are definately in need of improvement, and I've been working on fixing things like that since I saw the first pics of it on here. Enlarged macro pics really show off your problem areas don't they?

@TheChronoTrigger- Paint will come eventually, but it may be some time yet... damn my low budget. Haven't bought paints yet, but when I get some extra money, that's where it's goin.

@OP: Don't be so harsh on yourself, better than anything I can put out! With straight edges and GS, the only thing I have found to make it easier is to roll the GS out on a sheet of clingfilm (or US equivalent, IIRC you guys call it seran-wrap or something?) and then let it set a bit, then cut out straight edges with ruler+knife, then just apply it to area in question.

Looking forward to paint!

JoeyHeadwounds wrote:My GS skills are definately in need of improvement, and I've been working on fixing things like that since I saw the first pics of it on here.

Your GSing skills are good enough IMO. It's never easy to get something rally strait and flat on this kind of job. Have you ever tried plastic card?

Actually haven't found plastic card in my area at least not in stock. Wouldn't mind working with it, but I can't cut a straight line to save my life. Anyways... I'll try to get some more pics up tomorrow.

Incredible work so far! Most chaos dreadnought conversions seem so lazy but this looks great!

One question, is the tubing on the body guitar wire?

I think this is a really spot on conversion, great work with the green stuff. you'll have to show me how you did it.

Yes Snarky, it's guitar string... the E string I believe. If you plan on using guitar string in any of your work, just keep in mind that it's very stiff in small sections, and that you have to over bend it to make it hold the shape that you want. And thanks.

Thanks Tech Guard. Most of the greenstuff you can see in my pics here have been cut and sanded. That's it. I put it on in rolls about the size that I think I'll need, but when I'm done shaping it it's too much... too tall or wide. So out comes the file and hobby knives.

Always nice to see another Iron Warriors player.

And now for more pics... first an update of my Dreadnought... small changes I think. And then some pics of my Land Raider. The blue extra armor panels used to be a DVD player. Sorry about the shadows and blurry pics...

The Land Raider. It still needs plenty of work, but I figured I'd show where it's at now.

And A few more of it.

The idea for the extra armor came together when I was looking for ideas on Forge World... I like the extra armor they made for the Loyalist Marines, but they don't have anything like that for Chaos.
And since the thought of spending $30 just to make major changes to it is anything but appealing, when my sons DVD player died I knew what to do with it.

The Las-cannon Chain-swords are another idea I borrowed from FW... I figured if they have them on the Dreadnoughts Las-cannon arms then I can put them here.

Great job on the dread so far, chaos dreads are always awesome! Looking forward to seeing some normal CSM too, when might we see that?

Thanks Limbo... as far as the regular CSM squads go... should be soon. I have some assembled, just not detailed yet.

I do have a problem though, if anyone can help. I need some Boltgun Metal paint, yet the FLGS was all out. Anyone know if mixing Chainmail and Chaos Black will work and if so in what proportions?

It will not work.

Really nice work, JoeyHeadwounds. As other posters have commented, don't worry too much about straight lines on the GS- it's amazing what a little paint and shading will hide.

The dread looks great with the torso-cover-plate not on the interred marine, btw. Those gut details are much cooler than the armor.

And the lascannon chainswords are the ind of silly "baroque" that makes 40K so great. Way to go, and if you don't mind I may copy that for my 'Zerkers ride in the near future.

@ Savnock- Feel free to duplicate borrow or steal any ideas that you may find in my work. After all, I did the same thing.

And I actually did go with the torso armor... couldn't come up with a way to change the marine body to my liking... maybe on a future one.

He's in primer now by the way.

Well, it's been a couple of weeks since I posted anything in here, but I've finally gotten around to getting some pictures taken of some more of my stuff.

First up are some shots of one of my Khorne Berserkers. He's not finished, still has some GS work needed and I'm not sure what I want to do for the Legions shoulder pads... whether I want to try sculpting the iconography on blanks, or just pony up the cash for the GW ones. Anyways, here he is.

Here are some shots of my first Terminator. Once again, he still needs work but all in due time.

Nice terminator, when will we see some paint?

I like the idea of the chainswords on the LR.

And last, I have three updated pic of my converted Dreadnought. As you can see I have started paint on him, but I have much more to do to. But at least it's a start.


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@ TheChronoTrigger- Thanks, as far as paint goes it'll probably be a while yet. As you can see from what I have on here... I'm a bit of a spazzer. I tend to bounce from on project to another, and it's difficult for me to stay focused on one project till it's done.

@ spookman- Like I said before the Las-cannon Chain-swords are a idea I borrowed from FW... I figured if they have them on the Dreadnoughts Las-cannon arms then I can put them here. But I'm glad people like it.

these are awesome!

the only bummer is that from the side, the dread has somewhat of a static pose, but i can see how it would be extremely difficult to reposition the legs of it without having to more or less reconstruct new ones. i blame that on GW. the chaos symbol on the side of the TLC's look great, and i'm also really liking the new legs on the berzerkers.

can't wait to see more!

Thanks chadbacca. True the legs are somewhat static one the dreads, and would be difficult to change and make look right. Not to mention the major surgery it would require.

However, that's why the torso and legs are only held together by a toothpick. This allows me to separate the two pieces for easier painting and makes it so that I can (slightly) change the pose.

The top half is literally just sitting loose on top of the legs, the pick is glued into the legs and there is a corresponding whole in the bottom of the torso.

It occurs to me that one of the reasons for making a P&M Blog is to show what you are doing and to give inspiration to others who may wish to do something similar.

To that end, since my thread is about the Iron Warriors, if you have anything you'd like to add such as links to tutorials or bits of fluff... even suggestions on bits and kits that fit with them, feel free to post them here.

Here's one that I came across on The Bolter And Chainsword- http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=195209

It's where I got the inspiration for the Terminator.

Agreed, he does look a bit static. The dread is still a WIP though correct? I would recommend a wash or two on the metal. Otherwise it's looking great.

Something that i found that helped immensley when painting my IW, was using army painter silver primer. I checked the site and couldn't find it so i'm not sure if it's still available. But it saves many steps and coats beautifully.

Your Iron Warriors are looking good so far, looking forward to seeing more.

Thanks TheChronoTrigger. Yes, he is still a work in progress, and paint-wise I'm mostly doing the base colors right now, after that I'lll go back and do the washes and highlights.

Thanks also for the suggestion of army painter(it's a dip style primer, isn't it?). I have heard good and bad things about it, so for now I'm going to stick with spray primer and "paint by hand" methods. I will keep that in mind though.

Do you have any pictures of your IW?

Thanks Giraffex, more on the way when I get more done...

JoeyHeadwounds wrote:Thanks also for the suggestion of army painter(it's a dip style primer, isn't it?). I have heard good and bad things about it, so for now I'm going to stick with spray primer and "paint by hand" methods. I will keep that in mind though.

Army painter do a silver spray primer, I've not tried it myself but their black is good. Would be ideal for when you have to undercoat your Land Raider.

JoeyHeadwounds wrote:
Thanks also for the suggestion of army painter(it's a dip style primer, isn't it?). I have heard good and bad things about it, so for now I'm going to stick with spray primer and "paint by hand" methods. I will keep that in mind though.

Do you have any pictures of your IW?

It's actually a spray primer. Cost about 15 bucks and lasted me pretty much all 2k points of my army.

Pics of my IW can be found in my blog http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/120/248059.page pages 2, 3 and 5 in particular

How does it compare to other primers? I use to use GW back when it was about $8? $10? and am currently using a black Krylon primer ($5). Also used to use GW Boltgun Metal spray before they discontinued it, followed by brushed on Boltgun.

Army painter's silver spray is amazing. Comes out nice and even with a great coating thickness. No loss of detail at all and has a fantastic metallic finish. I would say it compares more to mithril silver than boltgun metal.

All i did was drench my models in delvan mud, then highlight again with mithril silver and they turned out great (IMO )

I definitely reccomend it for vehicles in particular, this way you get a beautiful even coat of silver on the large surface areas and you can easily avoid brush stroke marks.

TheChronoTrigger wrote:

JoeyHeadwounds wrote:
Thanks also for the suggestion of army painter(it's a dip style primer, isn't it?). I have heard good and bad things about it, so for now I'm going to stick with spray primer and "paint by hand" methods. I will keep that in mind though.

Do you have any pictures of your IW?

It's actually a spray primer. Cost about 15 bucks and lasted me pretty much all 2k points of my army.

Pics of my IW can be found in my blog http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/120/248059.page pages 2, 3 and 5 in particular

Love the Orks you've done, particularly the trukks and the camoed snipers. Really crisp hazard striping on your Land Raider... what colors did you use? I'm using Vomit Brown as a base coat and multiple layers of Golden Yellow on mine.

Awsome group shot by the way...

Thanks! Theres actually a hazard strip tutorial i put together, should be on page 6 of my blog if you wanna check it out

TheChronoTrigger wrote:Thanks! Theres actually a hazard strip tutorial i put together, should be on page 6 of my blog if you wanna check it out

Nice tutorial. I've mostly made templates or a straight edge to get mine done.

well w/e your doing looks good. keep it up

Thanks again Chrono.

Anyways, I've been working on the Land Raider a little bit today. I've added some banding on top of some of the extra armor panels. Yes there are gaps to be filled and glue to clean, but I wanted to see your opinions. Enjoy.

Well, I finally decided what I'm going to do about shoulder pads for these guys. The GW ones for the Iron Warriors are nice, but they don't quite look right to me.

So after much hesitation, I made this based on the Iron Warriors icon you see in the fluff. I have to say that I'm happy with how it turned out... even if it isn't on par with most of what you see from specialty manufacturers.

Anyways, let me know what you think.

I'd say it's a solid attempt. I see where your going with it. The gs could be a little smoother, I'm not one to talk tho, my gs skills aren't the best :p However if you keep trying and make one pad that looks really good you can make a press mold and just duplicate it. If you're interested I have a few extra fw rhino doors Im not using, I could send em your way

Nice constructive criticism there Chrono(serious statement). You're right that it could be smoother, but the funny thing is, that the more I look at it the happier I am with how it turned out. Almost looks like it's seen 10,000 years of use and abuse.

I am going to make some more, and after I get a few more done I might try my hand at casting them for private use. I thought about making a stamp, but this has some undercut areas that I think might be problematic.

I appreciate the offer of the Rhino doors, but right now I don't have extra funds to throw at them, or a vehicle to put them on even. Just out of curiosity, how do you have extra doors?

I purchased a set from fw and cast up a bunch of copies. No worries though. If your happy with the pad then that's all that truly matters

Everything looks great so far, keep it up! My only suggestion is to think about adding rivets to the edges of the plates you added to your landraider, helps to add some texture to those flat spaces. I use either sequins pins or sewing pins, just snip the heads leaving 1-2mm of shaft

Good point Tyrolean, I have been planning to do just that. I actually wish I had done that with the Dreadnought... still might do it too, just they wouldn't be in primer when I paint them in that instance.

That's cool Chrono. I like the shoulder pad pretty good for it being my first, but I'm going to make at least four more like, and then see about having one of my old army buddies cast them up for me.

I'm also going to sculpt the icons on the vehicle doors and Terminator shoulder pads, since they're larger areas to work with, it should be easier for me than the standard troop sized ones.

That dread looks great! One piece of advice though: paint the plasma coils! It will give some nice contrast to the rest of the model

Can't wait to see some marines

lessthan1337 wrote:That dread looks great! One piece of advice though: paint the plasma coils! It will give some nice contrast to the rest of the model

Can't wait to see some marines

Thanks. What colors have you guys seen used for the plasma coils? I've seen blue and green, but I've been thinking red.

When I bother to paint plasma, I usually do it in yellow w/ white highlights as I imagine it as intense concentrated heat. But what I do most frequently is paint it up Boltgun Metal w/ some weathered scorch marks. I do this mostly because my blending / highlighting / OSL skills are poor and I do not take the time to improve them. SO I just tell people that the weapon is "off" right now. Ha.

The Dread looks awesome. I would not worry about the "static" look on it, think of it this way- servo gears locked down to aim in on the next target. It is what it is and you'll have the opportunity to build another at some point (I don't know anyone that has only one Dread, even if they don't necessarily play them that much).



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Thanks Skalk. And that's a good point about the servo gears. I'm not really worried about it looking static in the picture, since the way I have it toothpick pinned, I can remove and/or rotate it at the waist joint.

Anyways guys, I got two more assembled with bionics today and pictures will come tomorrow. Would have got more done, except the bionic leg of one of them was giving me hell.

Quality conversion work, the dred looks epic. Haven't got the guts to put one in my list, but they do look brilliant when done well. Great way to beef out the LR too. Good stuff!

Sioni The Chin wrote:Quality conversion work, the dred looks epic. Haven't got the guts to put one in my list, but they do look brilliant when done well. Great way to beef out the LR too. Good stuff!

Thanks. I actually plan on running two most of the time. I like the crazy bastards and feel that they represent Chaos quite well.

Anyways, I'm a day late on the update that I promised, but here it is . This is everything I have started on, and most of it needs more work before it gets primed. If anyone wants single shots of any models, let me know.

Also, feel free to let me know what you guys want me to work on.

I like it. Very fine work.

Fantastic, Im wanting to move on my old IW bits please pm me if your interseted FW dred, 1 khorn squad with rhino, and a havoc squad.

Thanks Dark Scipio and Miss Dee.

Wow! I'm loving your landraider! dig..

You have some great looking stuff coming! Very dynamic poses, definitely an "action-orientated" look to everything you've got on deck. Looking forward to seeing them painted!

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:You have some great looking stuff coming! Very dynamic poses, definitely an "action-orientated" look to everything you've got on deck. Looking forward to seeing them painted!

Thanks. I have a hard time leaving minis in a "static" pose... since if you build them straight out of the box, every squad will look mostly the same. So most of these guys will be somewhat different and converted in some way.

Paint on all of the non Terminator squads will be done after I get their shoulder pads cast. as of right now, none of them have their left one. And thanks again.

JoeyHeadwounds wrote:

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:You have some great looking stuff coming! Very dynamic poses, definitely an "action-orientated" look to everything you've got on deck. Looking forward to seeing them painted!

Thanks. I have a hard time leaving minis in a "static" pose... since if you build them straight out of the box, every squad will look mostly the same. So most of these guys will be somewhat different and converted in some way.

Really great way of thinking, I've seen to many models get ruined by bad posing. Looking forward to those terminators

You're IW army is on a good way!

Good sculpt job on the soulder pads (I guess you've spent some time on those, right?)

@ Limbo- I think I'm going to work on the Terminators today, getting a little burnt out on the Land Raider. Just need to sculpt their shoulder pads and add some other GS details... maybe some minor bionics work.

@ Hyenajoe- Thanks. Yeah, the shoulder pads take a little bit of time. By the time I'm done sculpting the design on one, the GS is starting to cure. So, about an hour and a half or so, per shoulder pad. I still need to clean up the design a little bit...

here he is.

Looks good Miss Dee... Sending a PM..

Some creative vehicle work in here!

How big of a force do you have so far?

as a iron warrior wanna-be i love your army! i wish i could biuld like that.....

PS thanks for the tut link on the bionics helps alot!

So far it's just the single squads of Khorne Berzerkers, CSMs, and Terminators, and one each of Dreadnought, Land Raider, and Vindicator.

Eventually I plan to have a Apocalypse sized force, but for now I'll add to it as I go along.

And I'm not in a hurry, since my local opponents are my nephew and my girlfriend, and they've done much less work on theirs than I have on mine. And I don't have any plans for the tournament scene any time soon.




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bigmek35 wrote:as a iron warrior wanna-be i love your army! i wish i could biuld like that.....

PS thanks for the tut link on the bionics helps alot!

Thanks and you're welcome.

Checking in hoping updates coming soon?

Nice work so far, I like the big spikes on your dread, and the trophies you added to them

Your stuff is awesome, i really like your conversions

Thanks everyone that has posted so far. I apologize for the long delay between this post and the last. I have been busy with life mostly, but I have been working on my army when I can.

I've got a Berserker, Terminator, and standard CSM all in various degrees of paint. I have added much to my Land Raider... including a dozer blade... I might even shoot some pics of my nephews Defiler that I have been helping him with.

Anyways, New stuff should be coming in the next few days. Once again, I apologize for the wait.

Looking forward to seeing your new stuff.

All the work ive seen in this thread is really promising,my stand out model is the Land Raider.The extra armour looks really cool imo.

Really nice work. I have the FW iron warriors dread and yours looks WAY better. i'm just too lazy.

I keep meaning to get decent pics of mine.

You got any plans for any other conversions? Warsmith? Daemon Prince

The waiti is worth whatever you post. Really looking forward to seeing more of your stuff.

Ok so I finally got some time to get some pics taken, and and this time there is more than just my IW in the mix. First up is a Blood Angels tactical marine that I assembled and greenstuffed as a demo for my girlfriend.

Second are a couple of shots of my nephews Nurgle Defiler that I've been helping him with. It's a little rough, as he's not that good with hobby knives, but it's getting there. Also, he's not sure what he wants to do with it's legs yet...

Finally comes my guys. The first one is a shot of three. One each of Berzerker, Terminator, and standard CSM. They are in various stages of paint, but I wanted to show the overall look of the three squads I'm working on.

And lastly, comes the Land Raider. Since last time, I've added rivets(in the form of glass beads)... bigger than I wanted, but I think they look ok on the extra armor pieces. I'm also working on a dozer blade for it.

It's kinda ugly right now, but I'm confident it will turn out like the centerpiece I've been envisioning...

That Defiler is horrible in the most awesome way possible! I'm wicked looking forward to seeing what you do with it.

Thanks Skalk. It's my nephews like I said, I'm just helping him with his army. I'm really looking forward to what he does with it as well.

He has a pretty good start on it, but isn't sure what he wants to do with the legs yet... That's why I put it on here. So if anyone has any ideas, suggestions or links, feel free to post them.

Just a quick update... been working on the Land Raider over the last few days, and I've got the dozer blade fitted and working. It still needs more work, but it's getting there. I'll take more pics and post them tomorrow.

Great work on the landraider. I like what you are doing with the dozer blade, and the extra amour looks the part

Thanks tipios. Well, I promised you all that there would be more pics of the Land Raider up today, and here they are.

I'm personally interested in getting an aerial view, so as to see the mechanics allowing the front ram to open and close. But that is a cool idea- ram into something and disgorge some Iron Warriors into or through fortifications. Kinda Gorgon like.

That is fantastic!!

Ditto the call for an aerial- that's some really impressive curved plasticard work, and the GS is looking good too. Can't wait to see how it looks with paint on. Bang-up job!

thats still cool.


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@ Lord Kaesar II- Glad you like the idea. As for the aerial shot, well right now there is nothing to see... it's just a simple sliding piece.

However, I was planning on mounting a non functional hydraulic piston style device on the back of each side for a mechanical look. Will be made out of plastic tubing...

@ Savnock- Thanks, but it's not actually plasticard... just a curved portion of my son's long dead DVD player, well its plastic shell anyways...the same stuff as the armor plates. Dead electronics can be very useful in conversions.

@ tipios- thanks again, and it's good to see you're back on with your projects.

@ Miss Dee- Thanks and P.M. sent.

Wow, that is a very good use of an old DVD player

Are you using magnets to hold the dozerblades together when it is closed?

I really like those big sized rivets, it really looks like some older age, Mk V style reinforced armour

Nope, just a tight fit...


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Funny thing about those rivets, I was originally going to return them due to how big they are. Then I decided that big armor plates need big rivets. They are actually TOHO glass beads.
11/0 seed beads... according to the container.

I'll theow in the warsmith and whatever IW's I have save me carrying them when I move and With a BIG op on the way wanna get them moved B4 November.

Miss Dee wrote:I'll theow in the warsmith and whatever IW's I have save me carrying them when I move and With a BIG op on the way wanna get them moved B4 November.

Thank you very much Miss Dee. I'll have to do something nice for you in return sometime. I hope everything goes well with your operation, and good luck with the move.

Thanks. Iron Without, Iron Within.

Hey everyone. I'm feeling a little burnt out lately... running low on inspiration. So I'm going to take a break from my Iron Warriors for a little while. Not a long break, but it may bay a few weeks before I make any progress or post any new pics.

I will however, be checking in periodically to check for messages and I will be more than happy to answer any questions or listen to suggestions. I will also be scouring other threads and websites looking for something to get my hobby energy flowing again...

Well everybody, I'm back. I have been doing a little work on my Iron Warriors, mostly on the Land Raider and Dreadnought. Expect pictures within the next few days.

Welcome back, looking forward to new pics

Well, like I said, I've got some new shots to share with everyone that has been following my work. I'm just about done with my Dreadnought, I just have a few more things to paint on it and it will be ready for shading, final touch ups, and sealing.

The Land Raider is nearing completion... I just have a little more greenstuff work to do on the main body and doors... and to finish of the dozer blades... mostly an operating mechanism.

I was going to put together a hydraulic system for it, but due to space limitations and odd angles, I think I'm going to go with an electric motor setup.

So anyways, enjoy the pics, and as always... if you have any questions, comments, or suggestions let me know. I'll be happy to discuss my work with you.

Alpha legion! cool!

crimsonmicc wrote:Alpha legion! cool!

Not quite Alpha Legion... but with the greenstuff and the blue from the armor plates that I've added to it, I can see where you might get that idea. Nope, It's Iron Warriors... just hasn't gone into primer and paint yet.

Anyways, thanks for commenting.

Very nice sculpting on the IW icons, and the land raider is looking great (alpharius would be proud ;P)!

looking good there I need to try doing a similar skull sculped on my dreadlord legs

Limbo wrote:Very nice sculpting on the IW icons, and the land raider is looking great (alpharius would be proud ;P)!

tipios wrote:looking good there I need to try doing a similar skull sculped on my dreadlord legs

Thanks Limbo. It's kinda funny that only now, after I've been working on the Land Raider for months, that people start giving me gak about abundance of Alpha Legion colors on my Iron Warriors Land Raider.

Thanks tipios. A word of advice if you do sculpt your own icons, I find that it's best to do a little at a time, instead of all in one go. And you may even want to do it in layers.

This is what I did with the one on the Land Raider... a shallow layer for the skull and bottom arrow section, followed by the surrounding arrows. , and allowed it to set.

After it set I built up the skull and added the eyebrow ridge to it, as will as the raised mouth section on the bottom arrow. All that is left after it's set is to trim up the arrows and sanding.

Thanks Joey

Welcome.

Looks good.

Have you tried using a darker base color for the plasma coils?

Thanks Galorn. Nope, this is just my first attempt on the plasma, and I need to get more paints before I try again, since I just have Blood Red and Baal Red at the moment.

I actually tried doing thin layers of Golden Yellow and in a lightning like pattern under different layers of wash, doesn't look terrible in person, but doesn't look good on picture, and I know I can do better. So more paints here I come.

All in good fun =)
So you did that IW icon in two takes? I would like to do something similer for my chaos, mind sharing a mini tutorial? I think I've got the general idea down, but any tips you think I might find helpful?

Not a problem Limbo. And, yeah, two or three takes with greenstuff, and just a little trimming with a sharp hobby knife. As for a tutorial... would you like a picture tutorial, or just a brief explanation of how I do mine?

Either way, let me know. And thanks for asking... I appreciate it. I'll work on both, just let me know what to post.

That Land Raider looks epic! Can't wait to see it all done and painted up.

Thanks Praxiss. It will be a while still yet before it goes into primer, but hopefully not too long. It's close though, and I can't wait to have it in primer.

A brief explanation would do since I think I know in general how to pull it off. Any tips for someone who stinks at sculpting would be nice too

nice work

should be able to get them sent this week.

@Limbo- I'll put up a mini tutorial on icon sculpting tomorrow... I've had a few drinks tonight and I should probably have a clear head for giving out tips and advice.
@Bib- Thanks.

@Miss Dee- Great to hear it. Thanks for letting me know.

Limbo wrote:A brief explanation would do since I think I know in general how to pull it off. Any tips for someone who stinks at sculpting would be nice too

Ok, this won't be a full blown tutorial so I'm going to gloss over some some of the finer points, but if you want any further explanation, let me know.

To start with, be sure to get your work station setup with anything you might need. Good lighting, something to drink, a cool cup of water, pencil, sharpie or other marker, some sand paper... maybe even a magnifying glass.
Obviously you should have your greenstuff or other similar two part epoxy putty, miniature that your working on, and a good assortment of tools for working greenstuff.
Probably the most important thing you should have is a good photo or sketch of the icon you're going to reproduce. Every time I do one, I have my copy of Index Astartes opened to the section on Iron Warriors so I can refer to it as needed.

Let's talk about greenstuff for a moment here. Everyone knows that it's sticky as hell, and that its recommended that you keep it wet while you work it, since wet gs wont stick.
Personally I dip my finger tips into the cup of water before I start working the gs, this will keep it from being too sticky, but will leave it sticky enough to stat where you want it.
Speaking of fingers, wash your hands. The gs will pick up the dirt on your hands and fingers, and just doesn't work as well as it does when your hands are clean.
Also , keep your tools moist, you don't want the gs sticking to them at all. One last thing... gs is more likely to stick to a rough surface, you may want to carefully sand the area with a piece of fine grit sand paper 120 grit works well for this.

When you're ready to start, take a look at the icon you're trying to sculpt. Study it for a little bit. You might also think about if it would be easier if you drew an outline of your icon on the model. This is what the pencil, pen, or marker is for.
Try to get an idea of where you should start. With the IW, I like to start right in the middle with the skull. Once you've decided on where to start, go ahead and begin placing the gs.
Remember to work with small amounts at a time, so that you don't have a bunch of extra gs curing while you work. Try to RELAX and TAKE YOUR TIME. If you're in a hurry, you will make mistakes.
I think the last thing to mention, is when you start to feel the gs starting to harden, you should quit on the piece you're working on. Wait till it's fully cured, and then come back to it.
Some designs are best to do in parts anyways, it takes a little longer this way, but the rests will speak for themselves.

I hope this helps. Good luck with your sculpting. One last thing... try practicing the design on something that you didn't pay GW prices for, or at least something most people should have a lot of, such as blank shoulder pads.

Thanks, I'll remember all this. I plan to use my Forgeworld rhino doors as models, I'm basicly copying it in green stuff to put on my newly looted land raider, I hope it'll look half as good as your icon =)

You're welcome Limbo. Best of luck with your sculpting. Feel free to send me link when you get it done. I'd like to see how it turns out.