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Post by: Footsloggin
Well, since the other thread is 2 months old, I thought I would start a new one. I would like to start off by saying my favorite champion by far is Malazhar, something about the void is just amazing for me, saving up for the new hero though... Well, who is your current favorite champion?
For those of you who do not know, LoL (league of legends) is a free to play game by Riot games in which a player controls a single champion to represent them in an arena, matches are 3v3 or 5v5, with a 5v5 variant vs. A.I. available as well. The player fights off waves of minions for exp and gold, used to spend on abilities and in-game items. The object of the game is to destroy the enemies towers, then their inhibitors, followed by their Nexus, while killing opposing player's champions for massive gold bonuses.
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Post by: SagesStone
An easier way to explain would also be that its a slightly more easier and straight forward version of DoTA. If they know what DoTA is to being with. 
Favorite champions for me at the moment are Sona and Teemo. It's fun to place the mushrooms all over the map, as they're basically just cheaper and better wards; though they can't see stealthed champions. If they get an oracles to see the shrooms, then I'll just dump them in bushes where they'll hit them before they see them when they enter the bush.
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Post by: Ma55ter_fett
Malphite was for awhile but they nerfed his passive shield and now I've been bounceing around trying to find one I like again, I think I've settled on Rammus, but I havn't bought him yet.
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Post by: KingKodo
They nerfed his passive?! I know they buffed the hell out of his active passive. His passive health shield wasnt too great to begin with...
I really like playing with lux, esp in ADAM games. She can be very good if the player behind her is experienced with her. Having all your skills be skill shots gives her a steep learning curve though.
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Post by: Footsloggin
Thinking of getting brand when he comes out, something about a flaming (NOT IN THE WAY YOU *MAY* BE THINKING) character seems pretty awesome, other than that annoying little annie...
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Post by: Soup and a roll
I've only been playing a few days but liking it so far. Fan of Shen as zipping about the map getting team kills and saving my fellow noobs when they wander into turrets makes me feel like a hero. No idea about the intricacies of the game though - Runes, masteries, why my dude has weird black squiggly square graphical glitches under him unless detail set on very low etc.
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Post by: ShivanAngel
Been playing for a little while, main champ is probly kass.
Once he has his sights on you, you are not getting away.
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Post by: ghosty
Well I rape with Alistar, and so far, I'm the only guy I've seen to do well with him in the lower band. I'm sure from levels 20+ people start understanding what to do with him, and don't just try and steal kills.
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Post by: SagesStone
You'd think so. But, when you hit level 30 you'll come to the sad realisation that level does not equate to the skill of others.
I actually think when you hit 30 the difficulty curve seems to drop a bit.
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Post by: ghosty
Oh. Cool! With Alistar, the skill comes from using your abilities at the right time. I swear to god he's got some of the longest cooldowns, to some of the best abilities in the league. Take Pulverize. Knocks his enemies into the air, before stunning them. Thats a 2.5 second stun, something that is downright terrifying in such a high paced game. However, it's real use comes into effect when you knock them in the air, before following up with a headbutt down your end of the lane, hopefully towards your tower. It does high damage, and in a team fight, completely removes your target from the fight for several seconds. It works even better with exhaust, meaning they won't be going anywhere for a long time. Only problem with said combo is that it ends up with you having to 15 second Cooldowns in the middle of a melee, with only his sub-par self healing spell and ulti to keep you safe. Played well he can be a brilliant initiator, and almost unkillable, but it's a bitch to learn with him in the first place. So demoralizing seeing for a long time your K/D ratio being less than 1.
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Post by: SagesStone
Yeh the amount of times I've seen an Alistar headbutt an enemy to safety. So glad the mostly end up on the enemy team.
It's probably worth mentioning, but don't waste IP/ RP on filling out those rune pages until you get access to the tier 3 stuff. A good rune page will really help out.
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Post by: ShivanAngel
Started playing around with rammus last night, god the other team was raging when I would taunt their carry when they had one of our guys at like 50hp.
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Post by: Threedin
I've been playing me some luls for over a year now, if you guys have any questions just ask and I'll be happy to help
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Post by: ShumaGorath
I like Karma, I just IP purchased brand and I'm really underwhelmed with how underpowered he is.
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Post by: Grim_1209
Brand is underpowered?
The spotlight and youtube videos say different then. LoL
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Post by: ghosty
The Spotlights always say different. If they did one on Alistar, they'd try and make out how OP he is. Alistar, OP. LOL!
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Post by: Grim_1209
Hey my user`s Grimaldus Templar add me!
I usually use Kog, or Noct, or Twitch
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There is no space between the two words though LoL!
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Post by: Karon
I absolutely hate having to fight over Kog'Maw with other players.
Seriously, 90% of the Kog'Maws that I have seen are absolutely garbage. I main him, and I get pissed when someone else picks him and makes us lose because the other team actually has a 5th team member.
My secondary for when that happens is Twisted Fate or Alistar.
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Post by: SagesStone
ghosty wrote:The Spotlights always say different. If they did one on Alistar, they'd try and make out how OP he is. Alistar, OP. LOL!
This. The spotlights are made during the character's development, so sometimes they end up a little different when they actually release but usually not by much.
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Post by: ShivanAngel
ShumaGorath wrote:I like Karma, I just IP purchased brand and I'm really underwhelmed with how underpowered he is.
Brand is completely stupid in the hands of a competent player... Seriously hate that hero...
Been playing a lot of Evalyn and Urgot lately, really liking Caitlyn too, might have to grab her.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
ShivanAngel wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:I like Karma, I just IP purchased brand and I'm really underwhelmed with how underpowered he is.
Brand is completely stupid in the hands of a competent player... Seriously hate that hero... Been playing a lot of Evalyn and Urgot lately, really liking Caitlyn too, might have to grab her.
I am a competent player. I am also a competitive one that commonly plays ranked. He's great early game at low level harassment against slow opponants. He has no realistic CC, no escape mechanism, bad stats, bad overall damage late game, and his ap ratios are the worst of any ap centric champ in the game. They default to .5 and peak at .65. His ult is literally a slower and less effective version of ryz's ball bounce on four times the cool down. That said, brand can clean house against players that are not competent. He's in line for a serious buff (and damage scale restructuring) and is a joke among better players. Automatically Appended Next Post: Grim_1209 wrote:Brand is underpowered?
The spotlight and youtube videos say different then. LoL
Yeah. They did that for Lee sin and jarvan too. Sure do see a lot of them cleaning house. The ghost was brutally overpowered when released, I get the feeling they swung low on brand since they didn't have PAX exposure to look good for and didn't want the bad press of releasing two meta breaking champs in succession.
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Post by: dogma
ShumaGorath wrote:
Yeah. They did that for Lee sin and jarvan too. Sure do see a lot of them cleaning house. The ghost was brutally overpowered when released, I get the feeling they swung low on brand since they didn't have PAX exposure to look good for and didn't want the bad press of releasing two meta breaking champs in succession.
And yet ever so many players still don't know what to do when paranoia drops.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
dogma wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:
Yeah. They did that for Lee sin and jarvan too. Sure do see a lot of them cleaning house. The ghost was brutally overpowered when released, I get the feeling they swung low on brand since they didn't have PAX exposure to look good for and didn't want the bad press of releasing two meta breaking champs in succession.
And yet ever so many players still don't know what to do when paranoia drops.
I played against a team with shen, nocturne, twisted fate, and pantheon. It was hell. Every fight escalated instantly every time.
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Post by: ShivanAngel
ShumaGorath wrote:dogma wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:
Yeah. They did that for Lee sin and jarvan too. Sure do see a lot of them cleaning house. The ghost was brutally overpowered when released, I get the feeling they swung low on brand since they didn't have PAX exposure to look good for and didn't want the bad press of releasing two meta breaking champs in succession.
And yet ever so many players still don't know what to do when paranoia drops.
I played against a team with shen, nocturne, twisted fate, and pantheon. It was hell. Every fight escalated instantly every time.
Well LoL decided that they are removing global ults and re-balancing hero's.
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Well attempting to at least.
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Post by: ghosty
Well that would suck :L
I like the global ults, Karthas for example has a great global, pantheon, great ult, and even Ashe with her arrow, is a great ult that can hit anywhere on the map. Get rid of those, and it'd suck pretty badly, and remove some pretty awesome dynamics to the game.
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Post by: Spyder68
Vlad
Morgana
Lux
Annie
in is what i play.
Going to pick up Jax next i think.
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Post by: ShivanAngel
ghosty wrote:Well that would suck :L
I like the global ults, Karthas for example has a great global, pantheon, great ult, and even Ashe with her arrow, is a great ult that can hit anywhere on the map. Get rid of those, and it'd suck pretty badly, and remove some pretty awesome dynamics to the game.
Nah global ults are just stupid, and have been since dota.
No need to have great map presence, or really think if its wise to push that lane alone while your team pushes another...
Oh look team fight! Poof!
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Post by: ShumaGorath
ShivanAngel wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:dogma wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:
Yeah. They did that for Lee sin and jarvan too. Sure do see a lot of them cleaning house. The ghost was brutally overpowered when released, I get the feeling they swung low on brand since they didn't have PAX exposure to look good for and didn't want the bad press of releasing two meta breaking champs in succession.
And yet ever so many players still don't know what to do when paranoia drops.
I played against a team with shen, nocturne, twisted fate, and pantheon. It was hell. Every fight escalated instantly every time.
Well LoL decided that they are removing global ults and re-balancing hero's.
Is that why they effectively gave one to nocturne?
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Post by: ShivanAngel
ShumaGorath wrote:ShivanAngel wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:dogma wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:
Yeah. They did that for Lee sin and jarvan too. Sure do see a lot of them cleaning house. The ghost was brutally overpowered when released, I get the feeling they swung low on brand since they didn't have PAX exposure to look good for and didn't want the bad press of releasing two meta breaking champs in succession.
And yet ever so many players still don't know what to do when paranoia drops.
I played against a team with shen, nocturne, twisted fate, and pantheon. It was hell. Every fight escalated instantly every time.
Well LoL decided that they are removing global ults and re-balancing hero's.
Is that why they effectively gave one to nocturne?
Yeah I dunno what they were thinking with that ult... Its just stupid.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
ShivanAngel wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:ShivanAngel wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:dogma wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:
Yeah. They did that for Lee sin and jarvan too. Sure do see a lot of them cleaning house. The ghost was brutally overpowered when released, I get the feeling they swung low on brand since they didn't have PAX exposure to look good for and didn't want the bad press of releasing two meta breaking champs in succession.
And yet ever so many players still don't know what to do when paranoia drops.
I played against a team with shen, nocturne, twisted fate, and pantheon. It was hell. Every fight escalated instantly every time.
Well LoL decided that they are removing global ults and re-balancing hero's.
Is that why they effectively gave one to nocturne?
Yeah I dunno what they were thinking with that ult... Its just stupid.
LoL devs say a lot of things then never do them. I suspect the are being exceedingly careful not to ruin the delicate and probably accidental balance thats made the game a colossal hit in the last year. They nixed the mac client, never implemented the graphics overhaul they were developing, effectively killed the magma chamber map they were developing, they probably aren't going to implement the tribunal system, etc. Just more champs and skins until sales start to wane.
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Post by: ShivanAngel
Still I wouldnt mind globals going bye bye...
Nothing like hella outplaying or outjuking your opponent, making it back to base knowing you owned them hard, then realizing they have a karthus and it doesnt matter.
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Post by: ghosty
Ah but have you never had the experiance of being cornered by two heroes, about to die, and suddenly like a bloody comet, Pantheon lands on them, and saves your so far perfect Kill to Death ratio.
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Post by: Cheesecat
I usually play Warwick or Rammus. But I'm trying to get better with more tanks like Galio and Taric, because not may lol players play tank or are good at it.
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
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Post by: ShivanAngel
Personally I wish they would offer a p2p option or a donation ro something to get moved to the front of the queue
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Post by: SagesStone
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Try pretty much all the heroes when they're on free rotation, do not buy any until you are sure you like them and they are off the weekly rotation. Do not buy any runes until you unlock the tier 3 ones at I think either level 20 or 30. Also play through the battle training or whatever they call it, it gives you bonus exp and IP up until level 10 if I remember correctly.
Basically the game doesn't really start properly until the late 20s, everything up to there is just training.
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Post by: streamdragon
I usually play Renekton, built somewhat tanky with Frozen Hammer / Spirit Shroud and Sunfire Cape (plus some boots and DPS items).
I like Caitlyn, but in the late game she really sort of suffers once team fights pick up. She has no real CC (completely obvious traps don't really count), but I have found that combining the Clairvoyance summoner spell with her Ult can lead to some hilarious moments of sniping someone who thought they were safely hidden. Now for ranged I mostly run Miss Fortune, but ranged is one of those slots that I really don't feel like I have a "favorite" just yet.
Lately though, I've been playing support Kayle. Not sure why, but it's been a lot of fun and definitely different than the usual DPS character.
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Post by: ShivanAngel
Played Udyr a TON last night and the night before... God that hero is fun, and most people dont know what to do against him...
Taking down the other teams carries in a bear to tiger stance swap is to much fun.
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Post by: Gavo
I almost exclusively play Anivia (my friend generally tanks, leaving me to cast). She's by far my all-time favorite champion. Hard to use, but when you get good as her.....good times ensue.
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Post by: KingKodo
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
If you dont mind spending a little bit on the game, I would buy the developer pack at best buy or somehwere. It unlocks 20(or 30) campions right off the bat, gives you some bonus content, and riot points that you can use down the road to buy more stuff. It just gives a huge jump start in the beginning and its only 20$, although you get a 10$ riot point card with it... so its sort of $10 if you think about it. Also, save your IP points until you are 30 before you start buying stuff. You end up replacing all of your runes at 30 anyway, so anything you buy at lower levels just goes to waste.
I have been playing Lux quite a bit, she is a great long range support character. You can put out some great damage with her and she has good multi target CC (one AOE slow/damage and a double target snare) she also has one of the best (if not the best) shields for group battles, although it is sort of lacking outside of group fights due to it's low damage absorb rate. If you are good with skill shots, she can be a real beast and playing her repeatedly will improve your skills with other character's and timing of abilities (since she is the only character who only has skillshot abilities and nothing else). Her only downside is that she cant really focus fire a single target and you Must have tons of CD reduction to be effective. Automatically Appended Next Post: n0t_u wrote:Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Try pretty much all the heroes when they're on free rotation, do not buy any until you are sure you like them and they are off the weekly rotation. Do not buy any runes until you unlock the tier 3 ones at I think either level 20 or 30. Also play through the battle training or whatever they call it, it gives you bonus exp and IP up until level 10 if I remember correctly.
Basically the game doesn't really start properly until the late 20s, everything up to there is just training.
I think tier 3 runes start in the low 20s, but you dont get tier 3 quintessence until level 30.
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Post by: Karon
KingKodo wrote:Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
If you dont mind spending a little bit on the game, I would buy the developer pack at best buy or somehwere. It unlocks 20(or 30) campions right off the bat, gives you some bonus content, and riot points that you can use down the road to buy more stuff. It just gives a huge jump start in the beginning and its only 20$, although you get a 10$ riot point card with it... so its sort of $10 if you think about it. Also, save your IP points until you are 30 before you start buying stuff. You end up replacing all of your runes at 30 anyway, so anything you buy at lower levels just goes to waste.
I have been playing Lux quite a bit, she is a great long range support character. You can put out some great damage with her and she has good multi target CC (one AOE slow/damage and a double target snare) she also has one of the best (if not the best) shields for group battles, although it is sort of lacking outside of group fights due to it's low damage absorb rate. If you are good with skill shots, she can be a real beast and playing her repeatedly will improve your skills with other character's and timing of abilities (since she is the only character who only has skillshot abilities and nothing else). Her only downside is that she cant really focus fire a single target and you Must have tons of CD reduction to be effective.
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n0t_u wrote:Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Try pretty much all the heroes when they're on free rotation, do not buy any until you are sure you like them and they are off the weekly rotation. Do not buy any runes until you unlock the tier 3 ones at I think either level 20 or 30. Also play through the battle training or whatever they call it, it gives you bonus exp and IP up until level 10 if I remember correctly.
Basically the game doesn't really start properly until the late 20s, everything up to there is just training.
I think tier 3 runes start in the low 20s, but you dont get tier 3 quintessence until level 30.
You forgot about Ezrael, who is entirely skill-shot based.
Yes, do not buy runes until level 20, and, arguably, don't buy Quints until level 30.
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Post by: ShivanAngel
Lux is the only good champ that is entirely skillshot based....
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Cause of Ezreal's E or whatever the warp is, right?
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no ez is entirely skill shot based... he just isnt good.
The new hero rumble is pretty fun... He is pretty sick early game, but tapers off horribly late game.
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Post by: Karon
ShivanAngel wrote:Lux is the only good champ that is entirely skillshot based....
I've seen good Ezrael's before. Every champion can be used effectively, just some are easier to do so with then others.
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The only time I see Ezeral shine is when the player they are laning against is crappy and they get fed.
He is just so squishy and dies the second someone glances at him.
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That is sort of how skillshots work, though. If an ezreal can reliably time his skillshots, and figure out his opponents movements before he even does them, then he can be successful.
I play Kog'Maw a ton, and I go AP stacking. I completely rely on my ability to time my LA's, and it works.
I haven't played Ezrael ever, but that is sort of how I see it work when I play with one.
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Post by: ShivanAngel
I love Kog Maw AP build, most people flip out when they see you arent build the typical madreds bloodrazor build.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
ShivanAngel wrote:I love Kog Maw AP build, most people flip out when they see you arent build the typical madreds bloodrazor build.
AP kog has a tough time being effective in team fights, he's mostly a chase down/harassment king. Ranged carry kog is one of if not the single most powerful offensive carry champ in the game. Well fed it can kill 3 champs before bio arcane barrage ends ~6 seconds. Automatically Appended Next Post: Karon wrote:ShivanAngel wrote:Lux is the only good champ that is entirely skillshot based....
I've seen good Ezrael's before. Every champion can be used effectively, just some are easier to do so with then others.
Ezrael is a powerhouse, a well played ez can easily dominate opponants with his high dps output and ability to easily escape from 1v1 harassment.
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ShumaGorath wrote:ShivanAngel wrote:I love Kog Maw AP build, most people flip out when they see you arent build the typical madreds bloodrazor build.
AP kog has a tough time being effective in team fights, he's mostly a chase down/harassment king. Ranged carry kog is one of if not the single most powerful offensive carry champ in the game. Well fed it can kill 3 champs before bio arcane barrage ends ~6 seconds.
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Karon wrote:ShivanAngel wrote:Lux is the only good champ that is entirely skillshot based....
I've seen good Ezrael's before. Every champion can be used effectively, just some are easier to do so with then others.
Ezrael is a powerhouse, a well played ez can easily dominate opponents with his high dps output and ability to easily escape from 1v1 harassment.
I agree, Shuma, and that is sort of why I play AP Kogmaw.
I have played the regular Bio-Arcane/Bloodrazor build, and it is good, just not very fun after you play it a lot. Auto-attacking machine with some yummy void ooze slow.
But when you throw in the AP build with Kog'Maw, once you hit level 6, you win the lane basically. If you can time the LA's well like I can, then you start taking down towers and forcing your opponents to blue pill.
I do admit I'm not the greatest in team-fights compared to the Bio-Arcane build, though. Its basically void-ooze, spittle If I am close, and just try to pick off anyone that runs from the team fight.
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Was experimenting with an AP Udyr Phoenix/turtle build last night... Its actually pretty awesome lol.
Still needs some tweaking though.
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I have been contemplating buying Udyr, he looks very interesting.
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
I've been using a few for my first few games and so far signed is my favorite
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Post by: ghosty
Singed is a incredulous pro, no gonna lie..
I find that he's the ultimate chaser/ runner away.
If chasing, his ulti combined with his sticky glue and flip are invaluable. He can catch 9/10 people by slowing then throwing them over his shoulder easily. When running away his gas cloud is a great deterrent, especially when the damage is boosted by AP. People hate to stand in the gak, and will normally give up after they've realised that they're actually taking a fair bit of damage. In normal fights...ah I'm not entirely sold. He can mess about with people quite well, but he's not entirely useful, compared to Alistar or Malphite, true masters of disrupting the crowds.
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Post by: Gooda
Personally I prefer HoN (Heroes of Newerth) the problem I had with LoL was that you have to pay or play a lot in order to get heroes and most of the game content.
Having said that I did play quite a few games of LoL and I got really crappy teams and never knew what hero to save up for after reading this I may give it another try, I was worried about spending my points on a crappy hero.
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Post by: ghosty
Ugh, Yogscast.
You get the same problems you get in every multiplayer game which sets you up with teams. Sometimes you are with good peopl, sometimes not. And the hero rotation ensures you can try out the hero you want before you buy it.
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Post by: Cheesecat
Gooda wrote:Personally I prefer HoN (Heroes of Newerth) the problem I had with LoL was that you have to pay or play a lot in order to get heroes and most of the game content.
Having said that I did play quite a few games of LoL and I got really crappy teams and never knew what hero to save up for after reading this I may give it another try, I was worried about spending my points on a crappy hero.
There is no bad heroes, but each one has it's own strengths and weaknesses. The best hero is the one that fits the role your team needs most.
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I didn't know about the hero rotation at the time either I musn't have played long enough for it to change
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Post by: ShivanAngel
Sooo more testing with the AP Pheonix udyr build and I dont like it lol...
Tiger is just so nuts once you get the razor and a few other items.
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
how ofter is free character rotation?
been playing like a week now and it still the same characters
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Post by: ghosty
It changes every tuesday 
Another thing I love about LoL is how they give out gifts as apologies. If the servers go down, they have given out IP or XP boosts in return, and last time they gave out Riot points.
Gotta love em
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
jusy played my first game against Ryze
wow I had been told he was overpowered but... just wow
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Post by: ShivanAngel
Meh I find most AP casters to be OP around mid game, then you get an MR item or two and they cant kill you before you destroy them.
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Post by: Biotox
I just started playing and I tend to play FiddleSticks most the time [in PvP] but I am always trying out new guys.
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Post by: ghosty
I'm starting up with fiddle as well, I think he's great, except, much like an inchy trigger finger, the urge to use his ulti over the much more effective fear leech combo is often too much...
Oh and Vulk, you think Ryze is bad? He's been nerfed... Who you have to watch out for is Leblanc. She can pull of 1k burst damage at a time. Thats enough to knock out most players.
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Post by: Footsloggin
Heh, been practicing with Malzahar some more, I have to say, nobody really knows who he is, then goes "LOLWAT?!" when I pop my ULT. Kind of funny, I just wish he recieved a little buff to his passive, after the early game, voidling is basically crap.
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Post by: Cybronx
God I wish I was better at this game. I bought Ryze, and while he's still my best character, I find myself mostly feeding the other team.
The irony was that I played DotA for the longest of times, so it seems absurd to me that I could do so horribly at it's spiritual successor. I just hope I'm not as bad at DotA2.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
Footsloggin wrote:Heh, been practicing with Malzahar some more, I have to say, nobody really knows who he is, then goes "LOLWAT?!" when I pop my ULT. Kind of funny, I just wish he recieved a little buff to his passive, after the early game, voidling is basically crap.
Malzahar is very popular at high levels (as is ryze). His ultimate is more then enough to one hit KO many champions.
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Post by: ShivanAngel
Footsloggin wrote:Heh, been practicing with Malzahar some more, I have to say, nobody really knows who he is, then goes "LOLWAT?!" when I pop my ULT. Kind of funny, I just wish he recieved a little buff to his passive, after the early game, voidling is basically crap.
Asking for buffs on Malzahar is pretty damn funny tbh...
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Post by: avantgarde
I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
Try not to get depressed by other peoples words.
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Post by: Cheesecat
avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.
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Post by: SagesStone
True, but can you predict if an Eve is standing next to you. Sometimes when playing as her I like to throw out a taunt or something while doing it if I've got a good score going, most of the time though I don't see them doing this.
They're worth it, but only if you're going good enough to be able to keep a decent pace on your build as well. Generally one at the mid entrance to your lane is good enough.
Though I usually main Teemo now, so it's like they all have a ward.
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Post by: ShivanAngel
Cheesecat wrote:avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.
Not buying wards is a horrible horrible horrible thing... Good players know that other good players can predict their movements on the minimap. There are numerous times where I will let the creeps see me go one way, then double back and go a different way once im in the fog. Also you can "predict" all you want, but if you think someone is coming towards you and start tower hugging when in reality they arent coming for you, you are losing exp and farm. Wards let you know, without a shadow of a doubt, that you are safe or not.
Also in more competitive play there is a ward bitch to put it lightly lol. Someone who isnt nearly as reliant on gear to be useful to the team. They might have the run 5 boots and a few other minor items, but most of their farm is spent on wards.
Wards are ESSENTIAL when you are playing at a higher level.
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Post by: SagesStone
Indeed I like to do the same with anything that lets them see me on the map. If it's clairvoyance it's time for Teemo to say "Hi guys" over all chat.
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
dam been kicked for a day :(
had to go for my tea
I think there should be a way to get someone to replace you
if you have to go like i did your going to get a strike
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Post by: ShumaGorath
Cheesecat wrote:avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.
How do you magically know where their jungler is?
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Post by: ShivanAngel
ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.
How do you magically know where their jungler is?
Easy, when the warwick comes out of the jungle and ganks him....
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Post by: SagesStone
Or you hear the whirl of doom from a Rammus...
Also finally brought and tried out Soraka. Surprisingly decent for a support. Managed to 1v1 their solo mid Ezreal, but I'm putting that down to mostly player skill. So slow after Teemo though.
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Post by: avantgarde
New champ rotation, huzzah. Free Kass, ugh... ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs. Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.
How do you magically know where their jungler is?
It's simple, memorize every champs jungle route timing down to the sec, then you'll never need to buy wards ever! 1 min. 22 sec. Shaco should be putting down his 3rd box on Red.
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Post by: Footsloggin
I still buy an invis ward on TT if they have an assassin, if they dont, I place down a sight ward. 75 GP is cheap to be able to prevent nearly every gank.
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Post by: Cheesecat
ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.
How do you magically know where their jungler is?
When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.
How do you magically know where their jungler is?
When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.
How do you know magically know where the enemy jungler is?
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Post by: ShivanAngel
Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.
How do you magically know where their jungler is?
When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.
Yes but during that time you are back at your tower, losing farm.
With wards you know where they are and could potentially farm in peace for a while knowing you are safe.
Watch replays of people that are good at the game, and they have wards everywhere.
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Post by: Cheesecat
ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.
How do you magically know where their jungler is?
When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.
How do you know magically know where the enemy jungler is?
He's in the jungle or he's going to jump you at a lane, besides I rarely go out of my base by myself I usually play a tank meaning I'm there to scare off any potential threats that occur to my lane partner. The only
non-tank I play is Warwick but he has enough hp, life-steal and movement to escape most ganks.
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Post by: ShivanAngel
Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.
How do you magically know where their jungler is?
When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.
How do you know magically know where the enemy jungler is?
He's in the jungle or he's going to jump you at a lane, besides I rarely go out of my base by myself I usually play a tank meaning I'm there to scare off any potential threats that occur to my lane partner. The only
non-tank I play is Warwick but he has enough hp, life-steal and movement to escape most ganks.
Most good ganks your dead before you realise you have been ganked. Through stuns and roots/snares.
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Post by: Cheesecat
ShivanAngel wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.
How do you magically know where their jungler is?
When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.
Yes but during that time you are back at your tower, losing farm.
With wards you know where they are and could potentially farm in peace for a while knowing you are safe.
Watch replays of people that are good at the game, and they have wards everywhere.
Tank items aren't as expensive and if I'm playing Warwick I try keep a steady stream of champion kills so the rewards should be able to compensate for the more expensive items.
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Post by: ShivanAngel
There is obviously no changing your mind.
However watch some higher end replays. Wards win games.
Normally the team that is more agressively warding and ward hunting wins, there is a reason for that.
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Post by: Cheesecat
ShivanAngel wrote:There is obviously no changing your mind.
However watch some higher end replays. Wards win games.
Normally the team that is more agressively warding and ward hunting wins, there is a reason for that.
I'm not saying there useless, it's just I would rather save up the money for my build. Plus you should never be soloing in LOL anyways that's just asking for a death right there, no one is there to support your hero as
you try to remove the beat-down.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs. Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.
How do you magically know where their jungler is?
When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.
How do you know magically know where the enemy jungler is?
He's in the jungle or he's going to jump you at a lane, besides I rarely go out of my base by myself I usually play a tank meaning I'm there to scare off any potential threats that occur to my lane partner. The only non-tank I play is Warwick but he has enough hp, life-steal and movement to escape most ganks.
Early game lanewick is easily ganked.
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Post by: Cheesecat
ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.
How do you magically know where their jungler is?
When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.
How do you know magically know where the enemy jungler is?
He's in the jungle or he's going to jump you at a lane, besides I rarely go out of my base by myself I usually play a tank meaning I'm there to scare off any potential threats that occur to my lane partner. The only
non-tank I play is Warwick but he has enough hp, life-steal and movement to escape most ganks.
Early game lanewick is easily ganked.
Yeah but there's probably gank set-up going on if the other lanes have 2 or more guys missing.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.
How do you magically know where their jungler is?
When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.
How do you know magically know where the enemy jungler is?
He's in the jungle or he's going to jump you at a lane, besides I rarely go out of my base by myself I usually play a tank meaning I'm there to scare off any potential threats that occur to my lane partner. The only
non-tank I play is Warwick but he has enough hp, life-steal and movement to escape most ganks.
Early game lanewick is easily ganked.
Yeah but there's probably gank set-up going on if the other lanes have 2 or more guys missing.
2+1v2 is a gank. The jungler counts and is the primary source of ganks in most games once you pass like level 15.
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Post by: Cheesecat
ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.
How do you magically know where their jungler is?
When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.
How do you know magically know where the enemy jungler is?
He's in the jungle or he's going to jump you at a lane, besides I rarely go out of my base by myself I usually play a tank meaning I'm there to scare off any potential threats that occur to my lane partner. The only
non-tank I play is Warwick but he has enough hp, life-steal and movement to escape most ganks.
Early game lanewick is easily ganked.
Yeah but there's probably gank set-up going on if the other lanes have 2 or more guys missing.
2+1v2 is a gank. The jungler counts and is the primary source of ganks in most games once you pass like level 15.
I've rarely seen a successful gank pulled off with just 2 guys.
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Post by: Karon
If we could stop quoting that monster of quotes, that would be great.
I've rarely seen a successful gank pulled off with just 2 guys.
You clearly haven't been playing very long then.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs. Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.
How do you magically know where their jungler is?
When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.
How do you know magically know where the enemy jungler is?
He's in the jungle or he's going to jump you at a lane, besides I rarely go out of my base by myself I usually play a tank meaning I'm there to scare off any potential threats that occur to my lane partner. The only non-tank I play is Warwick but he has enough hp, life-steal and movement to escape most ganks.
Early game lanewick is easily ganked.
Yeah but there's probably gank set-up going on if the other lanes have 2 or more guys missing.
2+1v2 is a gank. The jungler counts and is the primary source of ganks in most games once you pass like level 15.
I've rarely seen a successful gank pulled off with just 2 guys.
What level are you? Also I just described a situation of 3 on two. The jungler is a +1 add. It turns 1v1 into 2v1 and so on.
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Post by: Cheesecat
ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.
How do you magically know where their jungler is?
When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.
How do you know magically know where the enemy jungler is?
He's in the jungle or he's going to jump you at a lane, besides I rarely go out of my base by myself I usually play a tank meaning I'm there to scare off any potential threats that occur to my lane partner. The only
non-tank I play is Warwick but he has enough hp, life-steal and movement to escape most ganks.
Early game lanewick is easily ganked.
Yeah but there's probably gank set-up going on if the other lanes have 2 or more guys missing.
2+1v2 is a gank. The jungler counts and is the primary source of ganks in most games once you pass like level 15.
I've rarely seen a successful gank pulled off with just 2 guys.
What level are you? Also I just described a situation of 3 on two. The jungler is a +1 add. It turns 1v1 into 2v1 and so on.
Lvl.30, I forgot to mention that I never go into a fight by myself that's just plain suicide. Plus I usually stay on the lanes (where there's less fog of war) and not the jungles.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.
How do you magically know where their jungler is?
When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.
How do you know magically know where the enemy jungler is?
He's in the jungle or he's going to jump you at a lane, besides I rarely go out of my base by myself I usually play a tank meaning I'm there to scare off any potential threats that occur to my lane partner. The only
non-tank I play is Warwick but he has enough hp, life-steal and movement to escape most ganks.
Early game lanewick is easily ganked.
Yeah but there's probably gank set-up going on if the other lanes have 2 or more guys missing.
2+1v2 is a gank. The jungler counts and is the primary source of ganks in most games once you pass like level 15.
I've rarely seen a successful gank pulled off with just 2 guys.
What level are you? Also I just described a situation of 3 on two. The jungler is a +1 add. It turns 1v1 into 2v1 and so on.
Lvl.30, I forgot to mention that I never go into a fight by myself that's just plain suicide. Plus I usually stay on the lanes (where there's less fog of war) and not the jungles.
How strange then that your experience totally contradicts that of the majority of the community concerning the function and commonality of ganks and the resilience of champions.
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Post by: Cheesecat
ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:Cheesecat wrote:avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?
Buy wards.
I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.
How do you magically know where their jungler is?
When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.
How do you know magically know where the enemy jungler is?
He's in the jungle or he's going to jump you at a lane, besides I rarely go out of my base by myself I usually play a tank meaning I'm there to scare off any potential threats that occur to my lane partner. The only
non-tank I play is Warwick but he has enough hp, life-steal and movement to escape most ganks.
Early game lanewick is easily ganked.
Yeah but there's probably gank set-up going on if the other lanes have 2 or more guys missing.
2+1v2 is a gank. The jungler counts and is the primary source of ganks in most games once you pass like level 15.
I've rarely seen a successful gank pulled off with just 2 guys.
What level are you? Also I just described a situation of 3 on two. The jungler is a +1 add. It turns 1v1 into 2v1 and so on.
Lvl.30, I forgot to mention that I never go into a fight by myself that's just plain suicide. Plus I usually stay on the lanes (where there's less fog of war) and not the jungles.
How strange then that your experience totally contradicts that of the majority of the community concerning the function and commonality of ganks and the resilience of champions.
The idea is not to get caught in the first place, otherwise I would usually end up dead.
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Post by: Karon
So are we just going to continue quoting this monster?
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Post by: avantgarde
Do what you do to any bad player. /ignore and move on. Arguing with a bad player is a waste of time and never ends well.
Anyone else hating this rotation? Galio, Kassadin, Renek, Kat, Ez, Gang; all suck ass in the hands of inexperienced players. I just played a game with a Croc feeding 1/17/0.
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Post by: Spyder68
Yea.. its a bad rotation, i was hoping for malzar so i could play him again to decide if i want to buy him.
One of the few casters ive only played once :/
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Post by: ShivanAngel
Yeah im really not a fan of this rotation.
To many of those champs have a very high skill curve, and cause a lot of issues with feeding.
I have already seen idiot kats blink in and ult thinking they could kill someone, only problem is they have a stun and destroy her.
Kassadin is kinda ugh tho, that guy is a BEAST when farmed. I actually own the hero and went 31-1 on him the other day. Its just wrong what he can do to people.
Crok is also very strong in the hands of a competent player, but like you said is really easy to feed with.
Galio is another one of my hero's I own and play a lot, and its sad how horrible people build/play him. He is so incredibly disgusting when built right, flash in, ult, win the fight...
People should be required to read decent guides before they try to play a hero...
Also Malzahar can stay off the list forever for all that I care lol...
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
whats peoples names on LOL so I can add you
I'm ninjavvvdan by the way
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Post by: ShivanAngel
ShivanAngel
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Post by: ShumaGorath
Shumabot
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Post by: Spyder68
ShivanAngel wrote:
Also Malzahar can stay off the list forever for all that I care lol...
I usualy play Brand, lux, morgana and Vlad.
Want moar spell pew pew.
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
cant find either of you.....
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Post by: frgsinwntr
I'm a big fan of Miss Fortune this rotation
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Post by: Cheesecat
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:whats peoples names on LOL so I can add you
I'm ninjavvvdan by the way
Yaster. I should play with you sometime. 
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Post by: SagesStone
Iustis, with a capital i. Though I won't be on for a couple weeks.
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Post by: AresX8
I just had the last straw with this game.
The community is worse than Xbox Live or even WoW. It's absolutely amazing to me than it's possible for a community to get this bad. Games at level 30 are far far worse than the ones I played when I was in the 20s, it's just incredible.
My last game I played for the first time as Master Yi and I jungled. I went 8-3-3 before the game turned to "it doesn't matter anymore" because we had a Vlad that was 1-12-2; he fed Annie so hard. The rest of our team (including myself) were calling Vlad out on how bad he was, but he kept responding as though he was a 12 year old thinking he was a gangster.
There were about 6 votes to surrender, all failed until they destroyed our Nexus.
Now, why is the community bad? Well, take the young kids of Xbox Live, take the selfish adults of WoW, slap them together into one game, add a whole new vocabulary pool predominantly using the term "feeding", and you have LoL.
I can go on and on, but I'll stop right here.
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Post by: SagesStone
This is why the ignore list exists, shouldn't have to but grab any large group of people and give them "anonymity" and a fair few will reveal that they are just mindless jerks.
I'll agree though, the learning curve drops significantly after you hit level 30. This confuses me as it means some of these level 30s I see that play as well as level 8-10s have lost an astonishing amount of games to get to that level.
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
I'm only a level 6 and have only had 1 game were I've had more kills than deaths
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Post by: ShumaGorath
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:I'm only a level 6 and have only had 1 game were I've had more kills than deaths
That will happen for a bit, you'll get better at it. Not every champion is meant to have lots of kills either. Automatically Appended Next Post: AresX8 wrote:I just had the last straw with this game.
The community is worse than Xbox Live or even WoW. It's absolutely amazing to me than it's possible for a community to get this bad. Games at level 30 are far far worse than the ones I played when I was in the 20s, it's just incredible.
My last game I played for the first time as Master Yi and I jungled. I went 8-3-3 before the game turned to "it doesn't matter anymore" because we had a Vlad that was 1-12-2; he fed Annie so hard. The rest of our team (including myself) were calling Vlad out on how bad he was, but he kept responding as though he was a 12 year old thinking he was a gangster.
There were about 6 votes to surrender, all failed until they destroyed our Nexus.
Now, why is the community bad? Well, take the young kids of Xbox Live, take the selfish adults of WoW, slap them together into one game, add a whole new vocabulary pool predominantly using the term "feeding", and you have LoL.
I can go on and on, but I'll stop right here.
Yeah, I've been getting annoyed with it too. I report people constantly and have done so for a while.
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
The only game I had more kills than deaths was a good game with singed
I can't seem to play well with any champion other than him.
I can only find Yaster can't find any of the others
can you try adding me
NinjaVVVDan
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Post by: dogma
AresX8 wrote:I just had the last straw with this game.
The community is worse than Xbox Live or even WoW. It's absolutely amazing to me than it's possible for a community to get this bad. Games at level 30 are far far worse than the ones I played when I was in the 20s, it's just incredible.
My last game I played for the first time as Master Yi and I jungled. I went 8-3-3 before the game turned to "it doesn't matter anymore" because we had a Vlad that was 1-12-2; he fed Annie so hard. The rest of our team (including myself) were calling Vlad out on how bad he was, but he kept responding as though he was a 12 year old thinking he was a gangster.
There were about 6 votes to surrender, all failed until they destroyed our Nexus.
Now, why is the community bad? Well, take the young kids of Xbox Live, take the selfish adults of WoW, slap them together into one game, add a whole new vocabulary pool predominantly using the term "feeding", and you have LoL.
I can go on and on, but I'll stop right here.
The two bold sections of text cannot be in the same post if you want anyone to take you seriously.
That being said the community is pretty bad. I make a point not to play with randoms for that reason. Though, if nothing else, it isn't anywhere near as ridiculous as HoN.
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Post by: Soup and a roll
I've been playing about a week now so obviously I'm no expert. That said, I played a lot of bot matches before even trying PvP to get an understanding of the game and the champions and, mostly, take names in PvP. Most of the time, however, the game will come down to whichever team has the fewest 0/15/2 players. Even as Shen a lot of the time it is unless even trying to save a diving team mate. Better have him sitting out rather than getting killed trying to get him to run away.
I've not seen much evidence of the terrible community though. Players being bad is an unavoidable consequence of playing team games. Players AFK seems to be more to do with the buggy client. Only once have I seen players being purposefully bad, with two guys demanding mid lane and camping there for the whole game.
Edit: Soupandaroll if anyone wants a game (or to check up on my boasting)
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Post by: Cheesecat
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:The only game I had more kills than deaths was a good game with singed
I can't seem to play well with any champion other than him.
I can only find Yaster can't find any of the others
can you try adding me
NinjaVVVDan
Alright, I'll try to remember to add you maybe we can get some matches together.
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Post by: ShivanAngel
Ugh I hate people who call mid or jungle, and 18 minutes later they are still in the mid lane or jungle farming away...
The whole point of mid is to get some quick farm and levels, and then roam to start ganking, only stopping in mid to clear a creep wave or two as you find your next target.
Went 12-0 by the 22 minute mark with urgot doing that last night, at the 11 minute mark I went top and got the double kill. Came back mid and managed to kill the miss fortune that had pushed to the tower! Snowballed into stupidity from there.
Oh another thing that drives me insane... People that play assassins like shako or eve, and the entire match its 5v4 EXCEPT when someone gets to about 15% hp and starts running then they run in and snag the kill.. Then your team gets aced because you were pretty much down a hero the entire time... Assassins are there to explode a champ when the fight starts, hopefully before they can be CC'ed, if you die no big, at least you killed their biggest threat.
My list could go on and on about how stupid some people are (like ashe and Caytlin somehow managing to feed a blitz/yi top lane) Seriously, the hell do you manage that with two of the best laners in the game...
Fortunantly there are more good games then bad games for me. Usually the bad games are when 5 people are playing a 1v1 game, instead of 5 people playing a team game.
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Post by: Cheesecat
ShivanAngel wrote:Ugh I hate people who call mid or jungle, and 18 minutes later they are still in the mid lane or jungle farming away...
The whole point of mid is to get some quick farm and levels, and then roam to start ganking, only stopping in mid to clear a creep wave or two as you find your next target.
Went 12-0 by the 22 minute mark with urgot doing that last night, at the 11 minute mark I went top and got the double kill. Came back mid and managed to kill the miss fortune that had pushed to the tower! Snowballed into stupidity from there.
Oh another thing that drives me insane... People that play assassins like shako or eve, and the entire match its 5v4 EXCEPT when someone gets to about 15% hp and starts running then they run in and snag the kill.. Then your team gets aced because you were pretty much down a hero the entire time... Assassins are there to explode a champ when the fight starts, hopefully before they can be CC'ed, if you die no big, at least you killed their biggest threat.
My list could go on and on about how stupid some people are (like ashe and Caytlin somehow managing to feed a blitz/yi top lane) Seriously, the hell do you manage that with two of the best laners in the game...
Fortunantly there are more good games then bad games for me. Usually the bad games are when 5 people are playing a 1v1 game, instead of 5 people playing a team game.
I hate it when you're in a team fight but it's 4v5 because you have a guy still jungling.
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Post by: Spyder68
Had a nice game last night.
kat on the other team went 35-1 ( i killed her once)
I was playing with somone i know.
I was 4-1 at the end. (with lux)
Friend was like 2-5.
Miss fortune was 0-16 ish
Everlyn was 2-14
and no idea what 3rd guy was at.
game was a complete waste of time. Miss fortune went mid and died 6-7 times before giving up and i had to defend kat with me at level 8 and she was 13 already.
but hey.. there is always a chance of a game like that!
a Vlad did that bad ?... wow.. im not great at him as ive played him twice.. but ive always had a positive k-d ratio..
hes kind of hard to be bad with.
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Post by: ShivanAngel
Vlad is absolutely HORRIBLE until like level 7 with he hextech revolver.
Before then when he runs up to poke with his very short range lifetap nuke thingy just hit him 2-3 times,use an ability or two, the heal is actually pretty pathetic.
If you are losing a lane to a vlad there is a problem.
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Post by: Soup and a roll
I'm right in thinking that if some dps unit like Jarv keeps diving in, getting a kill and dying against the same guy it's bad for the team right?
He'll finish 11/11/2 and make the guy opposite him 3-4 levels higher than the rest of our team.
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Post by: ShivanAngel
Meh one game I went 13-12... I essentially went in first, completely gibeed there carry, maybe forced them to use one or two ults then my team went in and cleaned house on the rest of them that had used their ults already...
So a bad score isnt necessarily bad, I was contributing quite a bit.
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Post by: SagesStone
It's actually a good idea to have someone dive in to initiate the team fight. It's the job of the rest of the team to jump in after they start focusing the initiator and help them survive.
Jarvan's ult is great for team fights by the way, bunches them up for some nice AoE burst from some other champions like Anivia and Miss Fortune's ult, draw them together for Rammus' taunt as well.
1v1 though is not a good idea unless you know you can win, no point trading a kill for a kill or leaving yourself as an easy kill for someone to come pick up after it. Tower diving in my opinion isn't a good idea unless you have a nice tank that can take the tower's focus. I've managed to get plenty of kills from attempted tower dives on me. They dive and commit, I kite around the tower until they die. It's even funnier if I'm on 200 or something as Sona or Teemo and they're one about 80-100%.
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Post by: Spyder68
I like getting people to come after me then rooting them in tower range and watching them die.
Yea.. vlad is bad starting out, but he can really get going.
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Post by: avantgarde
Build 5 hextech revolvers and MPen boots.  This incoming patch: Karthus nerfs (guess they didn't like zombie Karth) GP buffs across the board (saw that coming) Tenacity is interesting. Might mess around with the AP or Philo stone item on my Cho build and skip Merc treads for M3 boots. Not sure if I like the new Wit's End. I only ever built it on Kog'Maw. But the mana burn mechanic was hit or miss depending on who I was shooting at.
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Post by: Spyder68
Think there is also some changes to shen, Jarven and some nerfs to nocturne as well if i remember right.
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Post by: avantgarde
Yup another unnecessary Nocturne nerf.
Riot needs to stop pandering to the whiners in the community. People complaining about him are a bunch of baddies that can't or won't take the time to understand the mechanics of Paranoia. They need to suck it up and stop bitching when they overextend and die.
/dotarage
I don't even play nocturne.
Also can't wait for all the new Vayne's to knock back a guaranteed kill.
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Post by: Mike Noble
My LoL name is the same as my Dakka name.
Anyone else ever used a Gangplank Crit build? Lots of fun when you crit for 1.5K every shot. Thats what I've been using lately. I'd like to give Jax a try, mostly because his lore is awesome.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
Yup another unnecessary Nocturne nerf.
unnecessary Nocturne nerf.
unnecessary.
Nope.avi He was hugely overpowered when launched and could defeat 1v1 every other mellee champion in the game by standing there and slashing his fists. He regained health too quickly and his base damage was enormous for so fast and agile a champ. The community was right in labeling him OP and the first round of nerfs were very minimalistic, only truly effecting his ability to instantly join fights. Reducing his base damages was needed.
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Post by: dogma
ShumaGorath wrote:Yup another unnecessary Nocturne nerf.
unnecessary Nocturne nerf.
unnecessary.
Nope.avi
He was hugely overpowered when launched and could defeat 1v1 every other mellee champion in the game by standing there and slashing his fists. He regained health too quickly and his base damage was enormous for so fast and agile a champ. The community was right in labeling him OP and the first round of buffs were very minimalistic, only truly effecting his ability to instantly join fights. Reducing his base damages was needed.
This is true, and I play Noc most of the time.
With attack speed and lifesteal he could easily go 2v1 as long as he maintained melee range, which is really, really easy with his Q-E.
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Post by: ShivanAngel
My only issue with/was with nocturne was his fear.
That ability was the really stupid one.
So bought vayne also, really liking the champ!
Feels about right power wise, its nice because you how tank carry saturated the metagame has become she really shreds them.
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Post by: Tazz Azrael
Im havin a bugger of a time just getting the game to work, i download it then try to run it and it says there were errors with the downloading process (and i am downloading the game from the league of legends homepage) anyone know how to fix this?
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Post by: SagesStone
If I remember correctly they implemented a new system for their patches and it takes a little bit to configure itself the first time. I'm not sure though because my net's been capped for a bit so haven't downloaded it myself yet.
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Post by: ShivanAngel
ugh so im officially burned out.
The community is so horrible and 75% of games end instantly at 20 minutes with one side conceding...
They really need a better matchmaking system.
Not to mention the number of smurf accounts that pop up. I mean people even use user names like smurflol1337 and then intentionally throw the game cause they know their are no punishment...
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Post by: SagesStone
The only real way to fix it at the moment is to put the bad players on ignore so you don't end up in a game with them anymore.
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Post by: Spyder68
Best bet is to play with people you know.
it makes games go better even if you lose.
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Post by: Spyder68
New character Rotation is up.
Vayne is on there this week.
Also some looks at clockworks girl
and biggest change is everyone gets 10 Mastery pages now that you can re-name.
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Post by: whitedragon
n0t_u wrote:The only real way to fix it at the moment is to put the bad players on ignore so you don't end up in a game with them anymore.
OMG....that works??!??!?! Does it work in Ranked too?
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Post by: Spyder68
I doubt that it would work like that. Hard to tell though.
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Post by: SagesStone
Probably does actually, unless their system doesn't work properly. The purpose of it is to never be in contact with whoever on the list until you take them off of it.
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Post by: Spyder68
That could be abusive by putting good players on that list and never have to play against them again.
Not sure why someone would want to do that.. as if you dont go against better players you dont get better...
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Post by: frgsinwntr
that'd be funny if it worked that way!
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Post by: SagesStone
Sure you could put good players on it, but then they would never be on your team either. It does seem to work that way actually, one of my friends who has been playing it basically has an ignore list of over 400 people because they're so "derp".
Also seems like in a premade all the ignore lists are taken into account, so to show up they would have to be on none of the team's ignore list.
Orianna kind of looks interesting, seems sort of like a parasite-like champion. Can already see shockwave being fun, though she kind of seems like a support like Lux with a potential of doing some DPS.
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Post by: Spyder68
Yea it will be nice.
I dont see her like Lux though.
Lux can be a pretty good Carry with high damage.
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Post by: Spyder68
Gameplay video of new champion is up.
Of course she looks OP.. until i saw the highlists were against people who are terrible or she is 2-4 levels higher then her opponets.
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Post by: avantgarde
Her ult is disgusting when paired with other AoEs. Played against a team with her and Anivia. Anivia drops ult, she drops ult. Whole team gaks themselves.
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Post by: streamdragon
I've been loving Kog'Maw lately (of course I buy him right before he's free to play :( ). He takes a bit to get going, but when you hit level 6 you're suddenly one of the best harassers in the game.
Caitlyn
Renekton
Nasus
Kog'maw
Kayle
That's my "Top 5" that I play, as it were. I bought Miss Fortune, but have swapped her out for Caitlyn instead (whom I actually got first). Renekton is still one of my favorite characters though.
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Post by: Spyder68
Annie
Lux
Caitlyn
are the 3 i play usually lately.
Need to get Anivia to try along with clock girl.
If anyone wants to not pug lemme know, i have 2 ish people i usualy play with.
Just dont be a feeder
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