The Background (skip this paragraph if you like)
A few friends and I started a gaming club a few months ago, and it's going well. We play mostly small scale skirmish games. We have discussed, and are rather pround of, the fact that one of the things that sets us appart is that in almost 8 months of bi-weekly gaming (sometimes more often) we have never put unpainted figs on the table. A few times we have fielded basecolored figs, and rebased and touched-up prepainted figs do make their appearances, but nothing unpainted. Part of this is that we always have enough figs to share, so newbies who play with us never feel pressured to buy a bunch of plastic/metal and throw it on the table.

The Issue.
A couple of us were kicking around making a club t-shirt that says in medium large letters:
"Nice army."

Below that in smaller letters it would say:
"When were you going to paint it?"

It's undecided whether to include the club name or not, so here are my questions.

1) Would such a shirt offend you or would you find it funny?
2) If accompanied by the name of a wargaming club, would such a shirt negatively affect your opinion of said club?

This is an honest question, as most of us think it would be funny. However, we aren't the kind of folks who like to hurt peoples feelings so we'd appreciate hearing your opinions on the matter.

It wouldn't offend me. A lot of people complain about unpainted figs, and in tournaments themselves your need painted figs. So i can see you point.

However i can also see why some people may get offended. They may not have very much spare time to paint, for a reason they could take a lot of offense from e.g. they have a kid who has special needs, and therefore extra time needs to spent looking after him/her, or something like that.

I definetly wouldn't think less of the club though, nor do i think anyone else would. The club may well have a policy that you can't play with unpainted figs, and that's fine, some clubs have their policies, if you don't like it then go join a different club.

P.S I'd make this thread into a poll if i were you. It'd be easier to see the results.

The Issue.
A couple of us were kicking around making a club t-shirt that says in medium large letters:
"Nice army."

Below that in smaller letters it would say:
"When were you going to paint it?"

If you are truly serious about it ( some can be ) then you guys still have your rights if it matters to THAT EXTEND to not play against unpainted armies.
Which is fine as every club / store usually has a "trend / preference / birds a feather flock together etc etc ".
If you are serious , then by all means go for it , the easier for us gamers to steer away from the shop / gaming group.

If you arnt serious about it and its just a joke , dunno , people might take it the wrong way.

1) Would such a shirt offend you or would you find it funny?

Yes i find it funny , that people would take it to such extremes :']

2) If accompanied by the name of a wargaming club, would such a shirt negatively affect your opinion of said club?

Like i mentioned earlier , if the club only likes to play vs painted armies , thats their preference and certainly their choice and RIGHT. So be it.

This is an honest question, as most of us think it would be funny. However, we aren't the kind of folks who like to hurt peoples feelings so we'd appreciate hearing your opinions on the matter .

Many gamers have been denied games ( its totally understandable though , those who care about painted armies im sure find it more enjoyable to play against other fully painted army than gray clone brigade )
So they might not see it as a joke as been denied itself isnt something to joke about.

Not saying its wrong , just letting you know from our point of view :3

I think a shirt like that would be hilarious .
Since I also exclusively field fully painted miniatures, I would immediately try to join your club (being in Europe, thats out of the question :( ).

Good luck with the Shirts and the Club - put up a picture if you decide to have them made.

Interesting.
I'd be wary as Eldarown said of not knowing peoples specific circumstances.
You have no idea why their army is unpainted and a group of guys all wearing the same tshirts which are pretty blatently on display could very well send the wrong message (not to mention in a friendly environment be potentially intimidating).

To answer your questions I dont think I'd find it particulary amusing (and I hate unpainted models), I just think its an underhand way of making a statement about someones army, man up and ask them openly what the story is if you feel that strongly.
2) It probably would affect my view of your club for the above reasons.
YMMV as usual.

As long as you don't get all elitist about it (refusing to play unpainted armies or complaining at people that don't field fully painted armies) then I see no problem. It's fair enough to set constraint for your own club's games, but if your playing in a FLGS or something then relax about it.

It wouldn't offend me, neither would I find it that funny really.
The only thing that would negatively effect my opinion of a club would be how the members act, if your in that t-shirt and your all really nice friendly gamers then there isnt any problem at all. If your all douche bags that refuse to play against any one that doesn't have any army thats "up to your standed" then I don't care what you're wearing, I'd never game with you.

Edits: spelling

I'd find it hilarious.

Then again, I've been associated with a club that has the initials 'NBG'.

It has stood for many things, over the years, the top two were "No bloody Good" and "Northern Beaches Gamers".

We never told anyone what it actually was.

I wouldn't offend me in the slightest.

But it would make me assume you're elitist douchebags.

I love it.

A little playful ribbing is good fun. Given the nature of your club I think it's appropriate too.

Unpainted armies are an eyesore.

Eilif wrote:The Background (skip this paragraph if you like)
A few friends and I started a gaming club a few months ago, and it's going well. We play mostly small scale skirmish games. We have discussed, and are rather pround of, the fact that one of the things that sets us appart is that in almost 8 months of bi-weekly gaming (sometimes more often) we have never put unpainted figs on the table. A few times we have fielded basecolored figs, and rebased and touched-up prepainted figs do make their appearances, but nothing unpainted. Part of this is that we always have enough figs to share, so newbies who play with us never feel pressured to buy a bunch of plastic/metal and throw it on the table.

The Issue.
A couple of us were kicking around making a club t-shirt that says in medium large letters:
"Nice army."

Below that in smaller letters it would say:
"When were you going to paint it?"

It's undecided whether to include the club name or not, so here are my questions.

1) Would such a shirt offend you or would you find it funny?
2) If accompanied by the name of a wargaming club, would such a shirt negatively affect your opinion of said club?

This is an honest question, as most of us think it would be funny. However, we aren't the kind of folks who like to hurt peoples feelings so we'd appreciate hearing your opinions on the matter.

It sounds like something a 14 year old would wear, one that never bathed.

So, basically Frazzled, you're saying you'll take two..

Please stop making a mockery of Dakka rule #1.

I'd change the 2nd line to "when are you going to pay someone to paint it?" though.

(several kids in my club have done this, only to sell the army after they play one game with their 'pro-painted' army.).

would not offend me i think its funny.

I wouldn't be offended, that would be stupid, but I personally would think a bit less of a store that openly caters to newbies but puts them in an environment where they're pressured (albeit indirectly) into painting their armies and where every player who comes in is met with the same question by every member of staff.

Whilst you might not mean it, implied meaning can be equally as powerful and some players may feel that they are being singled out or shunned as consequence; they may have their own reasons for not painting their armies, and when you're not questioned about it directly, you can't exactly answer it or attempt to justify yourself.

For me, the shirt would be fine as casual-wear, but as something that could be used to represent the club, it doesn't really work; players could find it rude, sometimes intimidating, and you can't exactly justify yourself to a question that isn't asked outright; seeing it once and thinking "Oh it's okay, I know I have my own reasons." is all fine, but if you see it every game night then it can chip away at people's self-respect quite easily.

I want one that reads

Nice List
Where do you get it?
But yeah I laughed when I see that shirt, I wouldn't think any less of the club that wears it

AesSedai wrote:So, basically Frazzled, you're saying you'll take two..

Please stop making a mockery of Dakka rule #1.

Methinks Dakka Rule #1 doesn't mean what you think it means...

The poster asked for opinions. I gave it. Its not insulting. Its not my fault you can't handle it. If this upsets you, the world must be a scary place for you.


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LunaHound wrote:

The Issue.
A couple of us were kicking around making a club t-shirt that says in medium large letters:
"Nice army."

Below that in smaller letters it would say:
"When were you going to paint it?"

If you are truly serious about it ( some can be ) then you guys still have your rights if it matters to THAT EXTEND to not play against unpainted armies.
Which is fine as every club / store usually has a "trend / preference / birds a feather flock together etc etc ".
If you are serious , then by all means go for it , the easier for us gamers to steer away from the shop / gaming group.

If you arnt serious about it and its just a joke , dunno , people might take it the wrong way.

1) Would such a shirt offend you or would you find it funny?

Yes i find it funny , that people would take it to such extremes :']

2) If accompanied by the name of a wargaming club, would such a shirt negatively affect your opinion of said club?

Like i mentioned earlier , if the club only likes to play vs painted armies , thats their preference and certainly their choice and RIGHT. So be it.

This is an honest question, as most of us think it would be funny. However, we aren't the kind of folks who like to hurt peoples feelings so we'd appreciate hearing your opinions on the matter .

Many gamers have been denied games ( its totally understandable though , those who care about painted armies im sure find it more enjoyable to play against other fully painted army than gray clone brigade )
So they might not see it as a joke as been denied itself isnt something to joke about.

Not saying its wrong , just letting you know from our point of view :3

Exactly.

Frazzled wrote:

AesSedai wrote:So, basically Frazzled, you're saying you'll take two..

Please stop making a mockery of Dakka rule #1.

Methinks Dakka Rule #1 doesn't mean what you think it means...

Eh...both of those comments are not very nice.

I liek ya Frazz-man, but implying someone is an unwashed 14 year old is not exactly endearing. It's an opinion, but also an insult at some level.

AesSedai, your not of the Gray Ajah I assume, so going the undiplomatic route of throwing the comment back in his teeth is also not nice either.

Just bro-hug a bit guys and move on.

No. in the New Dachshund Order there will be no "bro hugs," for that is the way of the squirrel.

The poster asked for an opinion about how the shirt would be viewed. Thats my opinion of how the shirt would be viewed, which is awesomely better than the "excellent, it helps me identify the infantile players to avoid" I originally typed. I did not insult the poster.

@ Frazzled: You could use a little reread of the rules yourself, 'pard.

@ WarOne: laughing makes the Frazz-rage subside, lol. Thanks.

Eilif wrote:
A couple of us were kicking around making a club t-shirt that says in medium large letters:
"Nice army."

Below that in smaller letters it would say:
"When were you going to paint it?".

As long as line 2 has an asterisk at the end, you've got a get-out-of-jail if anyone queries it.
When were you going to paint it? *
Make up the disclaimer as you need it.

AesSedai wrote:@ Frazzled: You could use a little reread of the rules yourself, 'pard.

@ WarOne: laughing makes the Frazz-rage subside, lol. Thanks.

Here maybe this will help.
Wearing this shirt gives the impression that the wearers lack the maturity of adulthood. It expresses and arrogance one commonly finds in springlike veil of youth, untrammeled by the mists and perils of time and age. As a poster gifted by millennia of experience on this fulthsome ball I can say that, to me and those who recognize the benefits of our height challenged canine friends, I would proffer that this is an inopportune T Shirt message.

The T-shirt in of it self isn't offensive, the way i'd take it though would hugely depend on the attitude of the person wearing it.

I made a Tshirt as part of a comp we had at my FLGS which had the general of my army standing over the severed heads of a tau and a nid in the same colours as my two opponents armies. It was meant as a joke and I was friendly with the guys involved, so was taken as one. Especially as I've never won a game whilst wearing it.

Never thought about it being offensive at the time but looking back it could have been taken wrong. I think someone who gets upset by your tshirt is probably going to get upset anyway so as long as your not a bunch of TFG's it will be fine.

Eldar Own wrote:However i can also see why some people may get offended. They may not have very much spare time to paint, for a reason they could take a lot of offense from e.g. they have a kid who has special needs, and therefore extra time needs to spent looking after him/her, or something like that.

P.S I'd make this thread into a poll if i were you. It'd be easier to see the results.

Good points. Poll added.

Ratius wrote:
To answer your questions I dont think I'd find it particulary amusing (and I hate unpainted models), I just think its an underhand way of making a statement about someones army, man up and ask them openly what the story is if you feel that strongly.
2) It probably would affect my view of your club for the above reasons.
YMMV as usual.

Fair enough. In honesty, it is a bit of a dig at the GW and PP players (we don't really play GW or PP games) and the masses of grey and primer we see at or FLGS

Gorechild wrote:As long as you don't get all elitist about it (refusing to play unpainted armies or complaining at people that don't field fully painted armies) then I see no problem. It's fair enough to set constraint for your own club's games, but if your playing in a FLGS or something then relax about it... If your all douche bags that refuse to play against any one that doesn't have any army thats "up to your standed" then I don't care what you're wearing.

Edits: spelling

This doesn't usually come into play as we supply painted figs for new players. As most of our games are generic skirmish games where any figs can be used most folks already have enough painted figs to play.

Avatar 720 wrote:; they may have their own reasons for not painting their armies, and when you're not questioned about it directly, you can't exactly answer it or attempt to justify yourself.

That's true, may folks will have feelings about the shirt that won't be adressable because they won't mention it.

I like it a lot.
No, the only people you are going to "offend" are a few anonymous internet types whom you will never actually meet. At your club it may just help motivate new members to get their stuff painted. Nothing wrong with setting some standards.

It's a bit long-winded but apology accepted. See, you can still mock, only with subtlety. It's a whole new world

It is in no way offensive, and with your permission I would love to print one of my own because that had me in stitches lmfao!

I personally would not be offended by the shirt at this stage of my wargaming career, but I know that some new people that are trying to get into the game may get the wrong impression about it.

I know when I first started playing, my focus was to find a game and enjoy the competition. I would have been a little put off that someone is more focused on why I did not paint my minis vs. welcoming me to the hobby.

snurl wrote:I like it a lot.
No, the only people you are going to "offend" are a few anonymous internet types whom you will never actually meet. At your club it may just help motivate new members to get their stuff painted. Nothing wrong with setting some standards.

There's motivation and then there's pressurising, both could come from the same thing read by two different people. Just because Person A would be more motivated doesn't make it okay if Person B feels pressured into doing something (s)he doesn't want to do.

If you cannot ensure that nobody will take it negatively, then it's always safer not to do it.

Avatar 720 wrote:

snurl wrote:I like it a lot.
No, the only people you are going to "offend" are a few anonymous internet types whom you will never actually meet. At your club it may just help motivate new members to get their stuff painted. Nothing wrong with setting some standards.

There's motivation and then there's pressurising, both could come from the same thing read by two different people. Just because Person A would be more motivated doesn't make it okay if Person B feels pressured into doing something (s)he doesn't want to do.

If you cannot ensure that nobody will take it negatively, then it's always safer not to do it.

If you cannot ensure that nobody will take it negatively, then it's always safer not to do it? How dare you wear the sigil of khorne and speak such blasphemy? ;p

happydude wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:

snurl wrote:I like it a lot.
No, the only people you are going to "offend" are a few anonymous internet types whom you will never actually meet. At your club it may just help motivate new members to get their stuff painted. Nothing wrong with setting some standards.

There's motivation and then there's pressurising, both could come from the same thing read by two different people. Just because Person A would be more motivated doesn't make it okay if Person B feels pressured into doing something (s)he doesn't want to do.

If you cannot ensure that nobody will take it negatively, then it's always safer not to do it.

If you cannot ensure that nobody will take it negatively, then it's always safer not to do it? How dare you wear the sigil of khorne and speak such blasphemy? ;p

Because chances are that I won't meet any of you IRL, whereas if you've got regulars coming to a club then there's going to be direct interaction at some point or other.

It completely depends on the attitude of the wearer.
Also it should read "When are you" not "When were you" so i'd probably giggle a bit that you made a shirt with a slight insult on it and used the wrong tense of a verb.

Avatar 720 wrote:

happydude wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:

snurl wrote:I like it a lot.
No, the only people you are going to "offend" are a few anonymous internet types whom you will never actually meet. At your club it may just help motivate new members to get their stuff painted. Nothing wrong with setting some standards.

There's motivation and then there's pressurising, both could come from the same thing read by two different people. Just because Person A would be more motivated doesn't make it okay if Person B feels pressured into doing something (s)he doesn't want to do.

If you cannot ensure that nobody will take it negatively, then it's always safer not to do it.

If you cannot ensure that nobody will take it negatively, then it's always safer not to do it? How dare you wear the sigil of khorne and speak such blasphemy? ;p

Because chances are that I won't meet any of you IRL, whereas if you've got regulars coming to a club then there's going to be direct interaction at some point or other.

Of course! Then they can laugh together at the silly shirt! I dunno but I am the kind of person who finds it near impossible to be offended by anything because there are much more important things in life to stress over, maybe it is because I am Canadian, or perhaps because I am an older gamer. Funny how I usually play the armies that are the complete opposite ( Starting Scyrah this week )

Ratius wrote:

To answer your questions I dont think I'd find it particulary amusing (and I hate unpainted models), I just think its an underhand way of making a statement about someones army, man up and ask them openly what the story is if you feel that strongly.
2) It probably would affect my view of your club for the above reasons.
YMMV as usual.

Fair enough. In honesty, it is a bit of a dig at the GW and PP players (we don't really play GW or PP games) and the masses of grey and primer we see at or FLGS

Point taken, I too have a dislike for the primed/grey models in a game but just be careful not to tar everyone with the same brush, thats all
My statement probably came across a bit harshly. Soz.

Eh, this would NOT go over well at my FLGS. Almost all of the armies I see there are unpainted. And even though my army is painted, I would still get an "elitist" feel from the shirt. It would really intimidate those who are just starting out, especially if they have a bunch of unpainted models.

Do what you wish, however, expect some raised eyebrows.

_Tim?

I would say it depends on the attitude of the wearer. I think there is funnier things out there.

It never ceases to amaze me how many gamers get nerd rage over the most miniscule things.

I rarely paint and i really dont care who likes it and who doesnt. That said, the shirt wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

You're not insulting my family, kicking my cat or burning down my house. You're talking about little plastic, metal or resin toy soldiers....oh no!

I say make it, wear it and enjoy it. If you feel hardcore, do it.

It wouldn't offend me, but I would mock anyone wearing it who fielded even one unpainted model, or even a broken model. Don't brag unless you're ready t back it up.

Balance wrote:It wouldn't offend me, but I would mock anyone wearing it who fielded even one unpainted model, or even a broken model. Don't brag unless you're ready t back it up.

This i like :3

I don't know man, I think that not doing something just because it might offend someone isn't a great reason not to do it. I mean it's not like the T shirt is saying "I your granma". Now I know different people take different levels of offence at different things but I don't think we should start bubble wrapping ourselves against everything.

SpankHammer III wrote:I don't know man, I think that not doing something just because it might offend someone isn't a great reason not to do it. I mean it's not like the T shirt is saying "I your granma". Now I know different people take different levels of offence at different things but I don't think we should start bubble wrapping ourselves against everything.

Thats a very interesting point , but here is the thing.

Some people might not be offended with "I your granma"
in other words , its not different level of offense no.

Its been hit on the right nerve or not, which everyone is different for various reasons , that is the point.

I don't know man, I think that not doing something just because it might offend someone isn't a great reason not to do it.

In today's world where everyone is insulted by everything or on someone elses behalf, I think it is a great reason. Some of the stuff you can get done for now would've been laughable years ago, and people were a lot more tolerant; unlike today where I could use the word 'black' to describe something like a t-shirt and someone behind me who happens to have a black friend thinks "He'd hate that." and plays the racist card.

It's so easy to insult people nowdays that you have to start selecting sentences carefully everywhere you go, chatting to your friend in a café suddenly becomes a race to find a suitable synonym before the silence becomes awkward.

With business, you can't go and fence-off a large group of your customers, and pressuring them is simply wrong; would you rather have a customer who feels comfortable in the environment of your club, or one who feels that's the odd-one-out and feels compelled to do something to make him fit in?

Although I find it funny and providing the wearer had a light hearted attitude I think it would go over fine...I have to ask, why?

A t-shirt with that on it, okay, kinda funny, wear it every now and then. But for a club shirt? How does that slogan/joke tie into your club? Does that represent "who you are"? I think if you're doing a club logo shirt, any slogans, innuendo, quotes should somehow be representing your club, not be a clever jab at something you find amusing.

Fine for a wargaming joke t-shirt, kinda the wrong direction for a club shirt, imo.

I don't know that asking a forum will help make your decision, just make the shirt and don't worry about it IMHO. Wouldn't offend me at all, and in fact I do try and field fully painted armies only.

Might I suggest variations to the shirts? Sometimes it's funny to insult the wearer just as much as one that's not wearing it. Like you could do,

"I know what you're thinking."

"Yes, I DO have lots of spare time."

Then maybe throw a miniature between the two lines that's really well painted... not sure how GW feels about printing shirts like that.. but if it's just for a few friends at a club that's cool.

@ LunaHound not going to argue with you, mainly because I agree with you as I said people are different. My example of "I granma" wasn't meant to represent something that is universally insulting, i'm sure there are many people who'd find it amusing, rather something that although possibly meant as a joke is more likey to cause offense.

Your never going to please everyone, and painting is part of the hobby that is promoted a great deal, so I say make the tshirt.

Another thing people might have forgotten.

We arnt talking about 1 tshirt. OP was asking for a whole game club.

If I for example didnt have a painted army , or even an incomplete painted army , and i see the the "guys / regulars " that runs the place / calls the shots wearing that , i might "assume"
they take having painted armies very seriously , or atleast important enough for them to make a statement whether they are serious or not.

Its not even about been offended. Its just giving out possible wrong message and intimidate away potential new players AND most importantly customers.

The only reason I'd be wary about it is new players. I try really hard not to chase away new players, and more often than not they are the ones that would be offended.

Forget adding the store logo, go with a troll face instead.

It is a a clever shirt idea.

Loki_TBC wrote:It never ceases to amaze me how many gamers get nerd rage over the most miniscule things.

I rarely paint and i really dont care who likes it and who doesnt. That said, the shirt wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

You're not insulting my family, kicking my cat or burning down my house. You're talking about little plastic, metal or resin toy soldiers....oh no!

I say make it, wear it and enjoy it. If you feel hardcore, do it.

You sir, as well as your avatar, are awesome!

IMO I think you are thinking about this way too much. If you want to wear that shirt then by all means go ahead. If your attitude and deminer are all arround good while wear the shirt at an event I'm sure people will see the joke in and if not oh well they lack a sense of hummor; meaning don't let them spoil your fun.

I would personally love one of those shirts and my armies are fully painted yet! lol

I do field semi-painted armies because I dont have all the time in the world/motivation to paint all the time but I can see where people would want to play against a fully painted army.

So here your T-Shirt


And heres a T-Shirt worn by Gold Demon winner

Would it offend me? Nope.

Would I laugh at you for being butthurt enough about unpainted models to waste money on a shirt to passive-aggressively say something you can't? Absolutely

Would you be offended by a shirt that said "Cool shirt! Now can you shut up and play?"


Also...

LunaHound wrote:So an average painter makes fun of unpainted armies all is good


Then by that same treatment, a Golden Demon winner should wear

Both of these involve me staring at someone's junk, so I cannot approve.

Bunker wrote:Would it offend me? Nope.

Would I laugh at you for being butthurt enough about unpainted models to waste money on a shirt to passive-aggressively say something you can't? Absolutely

Would you be offended by a shirt that said "Cool shirt! Now can you shut up and play?"


Also...

LunaHound wrote:So an average painter makes fun of unpainted armies all is good


Then by that same treatment, a Golden Demon winner should wear

Both of these involve me staring at someone's junk, so I cannot approve.

Neither shirt would offend, and your comment sounds far more butthurt... just sayin brosef...

Bunker wrote:Both of these involve me staring at someone's junk, so I cannot approve.

... lol! k i admit i forgot male t shirts hangs lower

happydude wrote:Neither shirt would offend, and your comment sounds far more butthurt... just sayin brosef...

I really dont believe if a GD winner goes to accept his Slayer Sword wearing that , he wont be bood off the stage.
Or have the trophy confiscated.

I'd be fine with them.

Hell, one of my friends who went to Throne of Skulls wore a home printed t-shirt with "Tyranid: The other white meat" on it.

Lots of good opinions here. A few points of clarification.

1) It's not for sure that it'd be a club shirt.

2)The active "club" is small, about 5 members and if some don't want the club name on it we won't put it on.

3) The club and the FLGS are not connected. We game there every other tuesday and they sort of know us, but they don't sponsor us or give us any sort of prefference. We wouldn't want to do anything to overtly offend the owners, but they're pretty laid back, so I don't forsee a problem.

4) A store logo or name is not an option we were interested in.

Eilif wrote:Lots of good opinions here. A few points of clarification.

1) It's not for sure that it'd be a club shirt.

2)The active "club" is small, about 5 members and if some don't want the club name on it we won't put it on.

3) The club and the FLGS are not connected. We game there every other tuesday and they sort of know us, but they don't sponsor us or give us any sort of prefference. We wouldn't want to do anything to overtly offend the owners, but they're pretty laid back, so I don't forsee a problem.

4) A store logo or name is not an option we were interested in.

Then by all means go for it , i made 2 shirts you can use :3

LunaHound wrote:

Bunker wrote:Both of these involve me staring at someone's junk, so I cannot approve.

... lol! k i admit i forgot male t shirts hangs lower

happydude wrote:Neither shirt would offend, and your comment sounds far more butthurt... just sayin brosef...

I really dont believe if a GD winner goes to accept his Slayer Sword wearing that , he wont be bood off the stage.
Or have the trophy confiscated.

People would boo him off of the stage? Hurting...hurting...hurting individuals. I forgot the majority of WH players ar the breed that they are. I usually game with fellow gamers who share my attitude on things, such as little plastic men remaining little plastic men and never a need for concern. A paintjob critique would never bother me, anyway OP like I said sport that shirt with pride and to heck with whomever doesn't like that. If they whine tell them to see a doctor so that he can prescribe a healthy dose of grow-the-hell-up. Keep your stick on the ice bud I'm outta here because I feel a lynch mob of nerdrage heading my way lol

Sorry were has the second one come from?

The GD t-shirt is more likely to offend because is a direct insult rather than a quip/jibe. It doesn't take skill to paint but it does to paint well. To my knowledge there is no minimal painting standard to enter a tournament just that they are painted.

Yeah I know it still takes time to paint and not everyone has time, so comparisons can be drawn.

Just occurred to me that the T-shirt would probably be more insulting to a player who had painted their army.

I don't think it's offensive, it just makes the wearer seem like and elitist @-hole....better have an nice painted army before putting it on.

happydude wrote: I'm outta here because I feel a lynch mob of nerdrage heading my way lol

Hehe its alittle funny and a little weird , you have mentioned nerdrage in so many threads yet i dont think anyone cared or bothered to rage at you at all <3

LunaHound wrote:

happydude wrote: I'm outta here because I feel a lynch mob of nerdrage heading my way lol

Hehe its alittle funny and a little weird , you have mentioned nerdrage in so many threads yet i dont think anyone cared or bothered to rage at you at all <3

Oh my, you have no idea just how many sites I have been banned from because I find little to nothing offensive and choose to speak my mind. And on here there have been a few incidents as well as a few warnings from our ever so friendly mods...

Not at all

happydude wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

happydude wrote: I'm outta here because I feel a lynch mob of nerdrage heading my way lol

Hehe its alittle funny and a little weird , you have mentioned nerdrage in so many threads yet i dont think anyone cared or bothered to rage at you at all <3

Oh my, you have no idea just how many sites I have been banned from because I find little to nothing offensive and choose to speak my mind. And on here there have been a few incidents as well as a few warnings from our ever so friendly mods...

You know, learning and moderation of behavior might be considered a sign of maturity. Maybe its something to consider?

Frazzled wrote:

happydude wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

happydude wrote: I'm outta here because I feel a lynch mob of nerdrage heading my way lol

Hehe its alittle funny and a little weird , you have mentioned nerdrage in so many threads yet i dont think anyone cared or bothered to rage at you at all <3

Oh my, you have no idea just how many sites I have been banned from because I find little to nothing offensive and choose to speak my mind. And on here there have been a few incidents as well as a few warnings from our ever so friendly mods...

You know, learning and moderation of behavior might be considered a sign of maturity. Maybe its something to consider?

Actually, learning to live outside the confines of your plastic men might also be something to consider, which would also show a sign of maturity. Learning to not take offense towards something as menial as a paintjob on said little plastic men would also be an asset. Cool pooch avatar though brosef *Internet brofist*

happydude wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

happydude wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

happydude wrote: I'm outta here because I feel a lynch mob of nerdrage heading my way lol

Hehe its alittle funny and a little weird , you have mentioned nerdrage in so many threads yet i dont think anyone cared or bothered to rage at you at all <3

Oh my, you have no idea just how many sites I have been banned from because I find little to nothing offensive and choose to speak my mind. And on here there have been a few incidents as well as a few warnings from our ever so friendly mods...

You know, learning and moderation of behavior might be considered a sign of maturity. Maybe its something to consider?

Actually, learning to live outside the confines of your plastic men might also be something to consider, which would also show a sign of maturity. Learning to not take offense towards something as menial as a paintjob on said little plastic men would also be an asset. Cool pooch avatar though brosef *Internet brofist*

It's always fun to watch a moderator ignore the rules just to get shots in at a user ignoring the rules.



More on topic, why does it matter to you what your opponents' army looks like? You should be proud of YOUR work, not theirs. Going as far out of your way as to have a shirt made just to show your opponent how superior you feel over how pretty your little plastic men are is, to say the least, incredibly passive aggressive and not likely to get you a second game with people.

Bunker wrote:

happydude wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

happydude wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

happydude wrote: I'm outta here because I feel a lynch mob of nerdrage heading my way lol

Hehe its alittle funny and a little weird , you have mentioned nerdrage in so many threads yet i dont think anyone cared or bothered to rage at you at all <3

Oh my, you have no idea just how many sites I have been banned from because I find little to nothing offensive and choose to speak my mind. And on here there have been a few incidents as well as a few warnings from our ever so friendly mods...

You know, learning and moderation of behavior might be considered a sign of maturity. Maybe its something to consider?

Actually, learning to live outside the confines of your plastic men might also be something to consider, which would also show a sign of maturity. Learning to not take offense towards something as menial as a paintjob on said little plastic men would also be an asset. Cool pooch avatar though brosef *Internet brofist*

It's always fun to watch a moderator ignore the rules just to get shots in at a user ignoring the rules.



More on topic, why does it matter to you what your opponents' army looks like? You should be proud of YOUR work, not theirs. Going as far out of your way as to have a shirt made just to show your opponent how superior you feel over how pretty your little plastic men are is, to say the least, incredibly passive aggressive and not likely to get you a second game with people.

Never have seen that make a direct impact on the second game. I mean if his attitude is poor then yes ok, however if sporting said shirt while playing it off as a joke I fail to see the issue.

p.s. *Tdot Brofist*

A club should be inclusive, not exclusive.

If you want to feel pride at having never put an unpainted army/model on the table, you have certainly earned it. I applaud you for it.

Make your shirt: "Fielding only painted minis since 2005" or something similar. This is something to be proud of and share.

Taking a dig at someone else, even in jest, grates on people.

Lead by example or ispiration, not by shaming others. That's the difference between being mature and acting juvenile.

It seems it would be funny, but it seems like a surefire way to (sooner or later) get on someone's bad side before you even start a game. Just because you call it a joke doesn't mean everyone will be laughing at it. In short, it is a joke at someone else's expense. It is good to try to grow out of this sort of humor as soon as possible. I would think twice about making it your new slogan - emblazoned on your chest for all to see.

I think people are looking way too far into this. It is a shirt plain and simple and as long as his attitude does not come off as arrogant or unsportsmanlike then who cares? he, for all you know, might be one of the nicest guys you could ever meet and this shirt is just a little joke he and his friends cooked up for kicks. Refusal to play against him because of a t-shirt when his attitude clearly is sportsmanlike and friendly? Now THAT is immature. I am glad I ditched WH, people need to calm down and realize that you only live once, and to squabble/take insult over a t-shirt is beyond ridiculous when there should be far more pressing issues in ones life to deal with and pursue.

kronk wrote:Lead by example or ispiration, not by shaming others. That's the difference between being mature and acting juvenile.

The wise one has spoken.

Ohmmmmmmmmmmm xP

happydude wrote:I think people are looking way too far into this. It is a shirt plain and simple and as long as his attitude does not come off as arrogant or unsportsmanlike then who cares? he, for all you know, might be one of the nicest guys you could ever meet and this shirt is just a little joke he and his friends cooked up for kicks. Refusal to play against him because of a t-shirt when his attitude clearly is sportsmanlike and friendly? Now THAT is immature. I am glad I ditched WH, people need to calm down and realize that you only live once, and to squabble/take insult over a t-shirt is beyond ridiculous when there should be far more pressing issues in ones life to deal with and pursue.

You really need to reduce your coffee intake. You certainly are flying off the handle, happydude. Live up to your namesake, please.

Show me one post that said they wouldn't play against these guys if they were wearing these shirts. Go ahead. I'll wait.

happydude wrote: realize that you only live once, and to squabble/take insult over a t-shirt is beyond ridiculous when there should be far more pressing issues in ones life to deal with and pursue.

Like trolling a forum for a game you don't even play.

Priorities clearly in line, folks. Move along, nothing to see here

Bunker wrote:

happydude wrote: realize that you only live once, and to squabble/take insult over a t-shirt is beyond ridiculous when there should be far more pressing issues in ones life to deal with and pursue.

Like trolling a forum for a game you don't even play.

Priorities clearly in line, folks. Move along, nothing to see here

Sooo... I make a valid point and that is the best you can come up with? Awesome job brosef! I used to play, and now play other tabletop games which require painting, which I would assume would allow my opinion once again? P.S. Wicked avatar dude ( No sarcasm, I actually like it )


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kronk wrote:

happydude wrote:I think people are looking way too far into this. It is a shirt plain and simple and as long as his attitude does not come off as arrogant or unsportsmanlike then who cares? he, for all you know, might be one of the nicest guys you could ever meet and this shirt is just a little joke he and his friends cooked up for kicks. Refusal to play against him because of a t-shirt when his attitude clearly is sportsmanlike and friendly? Now THAT is immature. I am glad I ditched WH, people need to calm down and realize that you only live once, and to squabble/take insult over a t-shirt is beyond ridiculous when there should be far more pressing issues in ones life to deal with and pursue.

You really need to reduce your coffee intake. You certainly are flying off the handle, happydude. Live up to your namesake, please.

Show me one post that said they wouldn't play against these guys if they were wearing these shirts. Go ahead. I'll wait.

It is an example and judging by their reactions it would lead to that conclusion. Also I do not drink coffee, bad for the workout.

No problem in being proud of your painting proficiency and representing it in a witty manner. If people are so serious as to be offended by a shirt by that then they have more serious issues.

snake wrote:No problem in being proud of your painting proficiency and representing it in a witty manner. If people are so serious as to be offended by a shirt by that then they have more serious issues.

Well as long as he is not a jerk about it then yes I agree.

happydude wrote:
It is an example and judging by their reactions it would lead to that conclusion. Also I do not drink coffee, bad for the workout.

Ah. Hyperbole in action. Got it.

May I ask an off-topic question? If you don't play Warhammer, why do you care either way?

happydude wrote:
Sooo... I make a valid point and that is the best you can come up with? Awesome job brosef!

It would seem that Bunker, just like me, doesn't think you made a valid point at all in your tyrade.

happydude you DO realize.... what you are doing in this thread right now is no different then your criticism towards the posters that are discussing this thread?

whinning about people that are discussing about plasticmen and etiquette? How is the view up there?

Glad you are out of WH? you talk about it as if there is something wrong with WH, yet... why are you still here? bro...sef?

Here is a present from tacobake
Sup BRAAAAAAAAA

I honestly don't find it funny nor offensive. Just kinda mehh to me.

kronk wrote:

happydude wrote:
It is an example and judging by their reactions it would lead to that conclusion. Also I do not drink coffee, bad for the workout.

Ah. Hyperbole in action. Got it.

May I ask an off-topic question? If you don't play Warhammer, why do you care either way?

happydude wrote:


Sooo... I make a valid point and that is the best you can come up with? Awesome job brosef!

It would seem that Bunker, just like me, doesn't think you made a valid point at all in your tyrade.

Reading is fun, as in if you read all the way through my response ( It was not long... ) you would see that I play other tabletop minis games that require painting. Also, simply because one person agrees with your opinion, it does not make it correct. I am saying that people should worry about much greater things than paintjobs on a mini, and if you disagree well then you either have your life in spectacular order... or you need to find a life ( Love the more cowbell avatar by the way )


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LunaHound wrote:happydude you DO realize.... what you are doing in this thread right now is no different then your criticism towards the posters that are discussing this thread?

whinning about people that are discussing about plasticmen and etiquette? How is the view up there?

Glad you are out of WH? you talk about it as if there is something wrong with WH, yet... why are you still here? bro...sef?

Here is a present from tacobake
Sup BRAAAAAAAAA

Lol and so the lynchmob forms... fyi I detest anything and everything Jersey Shore-like... that picture gives me the creeps... And just because I left WH ( Well it IS temporary until I feel like taking it up again ) does not mean I do not play other tabletop games. So angry...

happydude wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

happydude wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

happydude wrote: I'm outta here because I feel a lynch mob of nerdrage heading my way lol

Hehe its alittle funny and a little weird , you have mentioned nerdrage in so many threads yet i dont think anyone cared or bothered to rage at you at all <3

Oh my, you have no idea just how many sites I have been banned from because I find little to nothing offensive and choose to speak my mind. And on here there have been a few incidents as well as a few warnings from our ever so friendly mods...

You know, learning and moderation of behavior might be considered a sign of maturity. Maybe its something to consider?

Actually, learning to live outside the confines of your plastic men might also be something to consider, which would also show a sign of maturity. Learning to not take offense towards something as menial as a paintjob on said little plastic men would also be an asset. Cool pooch avatar though brosef *Internet brofist*

Its funny, as the T shirt and my opinion of it had nothing to do with "little plastic men." You might add a more thorough understanding of basic reading comprehension to the list of things to consider in the future.





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kronk wrote:A club should be inclusive, not exclusive.

If you want to feel pride at having never put an unpainted army/model on the table, you have certainly earned it. I applaud you for it.

Make your shirt: "Fielding only painted minis since 2005" or something similar. This is something to be proud of and share.

Taking a dig at someone else, even in jest, grates on people.

Lead by example or ispiration, not by shaming others. That's the difference between being mature and acting juvenile.

Kronk, in addition to having a basic understanding that everything needs more cowbell, wins the thread.

Frazzled wrote:

happydude wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

happydude wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

happydude wrote: I'm outta here because I feel a lynch mob of nerdrage heading my way lol

Hehe its alittle funny and a little weird , you have mentioned nerdrage in so many threads yet i dont think anyone cared or bothered to rage at you at all <3

Oh my, you have no idea just how many sites I have been banned from because I find little to nothing offensive and choose to speak my mind. And on here there have been a few incidents as well as a few warnings from our ever so friendly mods...

You know, learning and moderation of behavior might be considered a sign of maturity. Maybe its something to consider?

Actually, learning to live outside the confines of your plastic men might also be something to consider, which would also show a sign of maturity. Learning to not take offense towards something as menial as a paintjob on said little plastic men would also be an asset. Cool pooch avatar though brosef *Internet brofist*

Its funny, as the T shirt and my opinion of it had nothing to do with "little plastic men." You might add a more thorough understanding of basic reading comprehension to the list of things to consider in the future.





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kronk wrote:A club should be inclusive, not exclusive.

If you want to feel pride at having never put an unpainted army/model on the table, you have certainly earned it. I applaud you for it.

Make your shirt: "Fielding only painted minis since 2005" or something similar. This is something to be proud of and share.

Taking a dig at someone else, even in jest, grates on people.

Lead by example or ispiration, not by shaming others. That's the difference between being mature and acting juvenile.

Kronk, in addition to having a basic understanding that everything needs more cowbell, wins the thread.

Nice way of contradicting "moderation of behavior might be considered a sign of maturity". Well duty calls my friends, I shall return in the evening to enjoy reading your witty banter. Have a good one! *waves*

happydude wrote:Lol and so the lynchmob forms..

WTH BROSEF! there is no mob! he just want to go jogging with you!

happydude wrote:I think people are looking way too far into this. It is a shirt plain and simple and as long as his attitude does not come off as arrogant or unsportsmanlike then who cares? he, for all you know, might be one of the nicest guys you could ever meet and this shirt is just a little joke he and his friends cooked up for kicks. Refusal to play against him because of a t-shirt when his attitude clearly is sportsmanlike and friendly? Now THAT is immature. I am glad I ditched WH, people need to calm down and realize that you only live once, and to squabble/take insult over a t-shirt is beyond ridiculous when there should be far more pressing issues in ones life to deal with and pursue.

So you ditched WH, so you don't actually play? Why the are you commenting then? Hard to port! We've a troll surfacing starboard.

happydude wrote: I am saying that people should worry about much greater things than paintjobs on a mini, and if you disagree well then you either have your life in spectacular order... or you need to find a life ( Love the more cowbell avatar by the way )

Thanks. The cowbell skit is the best thing that SNL has done in the past 15 years...

I don't care if my opponent has an unpainted army or not. Their personality will determine if I play them again. Great guy, fun game? Let's do this again!

However, the t-shirt idea is just off-putting to me. Before we roll the first die, I'm going to have some alarm bells going off. I might enjoy the game, I might not.

That's why I fall back to leading by example, not by shaming. These guys should brag about having never put an unpainted model on the table. That's a big deal in my book. I wish I could say the same. My gaming buddies and I push each other all of the time to paint more. But we do it by one-upping each other and wanting to one-up the last painted model or unit.

All I'm trying to say is there is a difference between saying "Our group only fields painted models" and "You should only field painted models."

LunaHound wrote:

happydude wrote:Lol and so the lynchmob forms..

WTH BROSEF! there is no mob! he just want to go jogging with you!

Go back to woodbridge lol

LunaHound wrote:happydude you DO realize.... what you are doing in this thread right now is no different then your criticism towards the posters that are discussing this thread?

whinning about people that are discussing about plasticmen and etiquette? How is the view up there?

Glad you are out of WH? you talk about it as if there is something wrong with WH, yet... why are you still here? bro...sef?

Here is a present from tacobake
Sup BRAAAAAAAAA

WHAT HAS BEEN SEEN CANNOT BE UNSEEN!

Frazzled wrote:

happydude wrote:I think people are looking way too far into this. It is a shirt plain and simple and as long as his attitude does not come off as arrogant or unsportsmanlike then who cares? he, for all you know, might be one of the nicest guys you could ever meet and this shirt is just a little joke he and his friends cooked up for kicks. Refusal to play against him because of a t-shirt when his attitude clearly is sportsmanlike and friendly? Now THAT is immature. I am glad I ditched WH, people need to calm down and realize that you only live once, and to squabble/take insult over a t-shirt is beyond ridiculous when there should be far more pressing issues in ones life to deal with and pursue.

So you ditched WH, so you don't actually play? Why the are you commenting then? Hard to port! We've a troll surfacing starboard.

Do you have a mental deficiency? I clearly stated that I play other minis games that require paintjobs.

happydude wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

happydude wrote:Lol and so the lynchmob forms..

WTH BROSEF! there is no mob! he just want to go jogging with you!

Go back to woodbridge lol

Where is that?

happydude wrote:Do you have a mental deficiency? I clearly stated that I play other minis games that require paintjobs.

... You are so unbelievably rude no wonder you were banned.
And i apologize for myself and others that we arnt psychic , we cant paint an imagination picture of your PAINTED MINIATURE

MAOOOOOOOOW

I think it would be hilarious and if people can't joke about it or find it offensive then they are mostly likely immature and sensitve about everything else.

happydude wrote:

Lol and so the lynchmob forms...

And thus the self-stylized martyr is revealed.

Sorry kiddo, doesn't work like that here.

As a consolation prize, and since this thread seems to now be about images more than your backhanded insults...

happydude wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

happydude wrote:I think people are looking way too far into this. It is a shirt plain and simple and as long as his attitude does not come off as arrogant or unsportsmanlike then who cares? he, for all you know, might be one of the nicest guys you could ever meet and this shirt is just a little joke he and his friends cooked up for kicks. Refusal to play against him because of a t-shirt when his attitude clearly is sportsmanlike and friendly? Now THAT is immature. I am glad I ditched WH, people need to calm down and realize that you only live once, and to squabble/take insult over a t-shirt is beyond ridiculous when there should be far more pressing issues in ones life to deal with and pursue.

So you ditched WH, so you don't actually play? Why the are you commenting then? Hard to port! We've a troll surfacing starboard.

Do you have a mental deficiency? I clearly stated that I play other minis games that require paintjobs.

1. Yes, at least thats what the wife says. However, thats not relevant in this instance and as she says "I can call you anything I want, but if someone else does I'll run over them...twice."
2. What games do you play?
3. Your replies don't sound happy. They sound angry. Problems in school? No date for the dance? Do you just need a great big hug happydude? Tell grandpappy Frazzled all about it.

While I seem to be in the minority, I wouldn't suggest wearing that t-shirt.

LunaHound wrote:

happydude wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

happydude wrote:Lol and so the lynchmob forms..

WTH BROSEF! there is no mob! he just want to go jogging with you!

Go back to woodbridge lol

Where is that?

happydude wrote:Do you have a mental deficiency? I clearly stated that I play other minis games that require paintjobs.

... You are so unbelievably rude no wonder you were banned.
And i apologize for myself and others that we arnt psychic , we cant paint an imagination picture of your PAINTED MINIATURE

MAOOOOOOOOW

Thanks! fyi I play WM just in case you were wondering.

happydude wrote:Thanks! fyi I play WM just in case you were wondering.

Ohhh you are so going to love me for this...

Pics or it didnt happened

meow meow :3

happydude wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

happydude wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

happydude wrote:Lol and so the lynchmob forms..

WTH BROSEF! there is no mob! he just want to go jogging with you!

Go back to woodbridge lol

Where is that?

happydude wrote:Do you have a mental deficiency? I clearly stated that I play other minis games that require paintjobs.

... You are so unbelievably rude no wonder you were banned.
And i apologize for myself and others that we arnt psychic , we cant paint an imagination picture of your PAINTED MINIATURE

MAOOOOOOOOW

Thanks! fyi I play WM just in case you were wondering.

There it is, I blame page 5.

Frazzled wrote:

happydude wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

happydude wrote:I think people are looking way too far into this. It is a shirt plain and simple and as long as his attitude does not come off as arrogant or unsportsmanlike then who cares? he, for all you know, might be one of the nicest guys you could ever meet and this shirt is just a little joke he and his friends cooked up for kicks. Refusal to play against him because of a t-shirt when his attitude clearly is sportsmanlike and friendly? Now THAT is immature. I am glad I ditched WH, people need to calm down and realize that you only live once, and to squabble/take insult over a t-shirt is beyond ridiculous when there should be far more pressing issues in ones life to deal with and pursue.

So you ditched WH, so you don't actually play? Why the are you commenting then? Hard to port! We've a troll surfacing starboard.

Do you have a mental deficiency? I clearly stated that I play other minis games that require paintjobs.

1. Yes, at least thats what the wife says. However, thats not relevant in this instance and as she says "I can call you anything I want, but if someone else does I'll run over them...twice."
2. What games do you play?
3. Your replies don't sound happy. They sound angry. Problems in school? No date for the dance? Do you just need a great big hug happydude? Tell grandpappy Frazzled all about it.

Ok I like you, that gave me a giggle. Not angry, I just generally speak my mind and upon further review it was in bad taste to say such a thing, hope I did not offend my friend


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LunaHound wrote:

happydude wrote:Thanks! fyi I play WM just in case you were wondering.

Ohhh you are so going to love me for this...

Pics or it didnt happened

meow meow :3

Dang it girl they are unpainted ( Oh the heat I am about to recieve... ) as I just bought them. I have painting and pinning left to do!

You know what they say about people who feel the need to reply to every single post...

Bunker wrote:

happydude wrote:

Lol and so the lynchmob forms...

And thus the self-stylized martyr is revealed.

Sorry kiddo, doesn't work like that here.

As a consolation prize, and since this thread seems to now be about images more than your backhanded insults...

That picture is actually very freaking racist. Please remove that.


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lord_blackfang wrote:You know what they say about people who feel the need to reply to every single post...

I'm bored and on my one week holiday (Birthday tomorrow so I felt it proper to take the week off). ;p

happydude wrote:

Bunker wrote:

happydude wrote:

Lol and so the lynchmob forms...

And thus the self-stylized martyr is revealed.

Sorry kiddo, doesn't work like that here.

As a consolation prize, and since this thread seems to now be about images more than your backhanded insults...

That picture is actually very freaking racist. Please remove that.

That's actually not "very freaking racist". Hyper-sensitive much?

Why would it be racist? just because she isnt attractive as the guy making the kissy face?

So harsh happydude ..

targetawg wrote:

happydude wrote:

Bunker wrote:

happydude wrote:

Lol and so the lynchmob forms...

And thus the self-stylized martyr is revealed.

Sorry kiddo, doesn't work like that here.

As a consolation prize, and since this thread seems to now be about images more than your backhanded insults...

That picture is actually very freaking racist. Please remove that.

That's actually not "very freaking racist". Hyper-sensitive much?

It actually is racist to a degree. Sorry.

happydude wrote:

That picture is actually very freaking racist. Please remove that.

Look at you, telling other people what they're doing is offensive after telling people to lighten up.

LunaHound wrote:Why would it be racist? just because she isnt attractive as the guy making the kissy face?

So harsh happydude ..

Stop making me out to be so harsh ;p I am actually a very nice person who simply speaks his mind is all

happydude wrote:
It actually is racist to a degree. Sorry.

Elaborate, Reverend Jackson.

I had similar discussions and I know that several people hate me now because I said my opinion about unpainted armies / miniatures.

Guy: "Look at my army!"

Me: "I don't see any army. I just see a bunch of metal and plastic."

For me, an army has to be painted in such a manner that it is clear that these miniatures / units belong together, even if it's only the base that is done in the same style.
In an army, all miniatures share a common visual theme and the paintjob on theme gives the miniatures charakter, thus creating the impression of the armie.

I got into this hobby because I saw colorfull armies on impressive modelled tables. These armies became alive in my mind because they had character.

I like to think that these images of armies are the reason why we play Warhammer. Sorry, I might offend some people here: I think you have to be someone who absolutely doesn't have any fantasy, somebody who doesn't even care about Warhammer, to field unpainted armies. I find it outright offensive if you oppose me and my army with unpainted miniatures.
I made some effort to present you an army that is able to come alive in your mind. A worthy opponent. Now "you" come along and present me your metal and plastic?! Not that I don't have any fantasy, but I don't see an army in this - just a pile of unpainted, maybe primed, miniatures.

happydude wrote:

LunaHound wrote:Why would it be racist? just because she isnt attractive as the guy making the kissy face?

So harsh happydude ..

Stop making me out to be so harsh ;p I am actually a very nice person who simply speaks his mind is all

I dub thee kookoodude

Bunker wrote:

happydude wrote:

That picture is actually very freaking racist. Please remove that.

Look at you, telling other people what they're doing is offensive after telling people to lighten up.

You are honestly going to compare racism to model paintjobs on toy soldiers?

Wow... just wow... anyway i must head to the mall, have a good one everyone... and bunker... take that down... really. You seem like a decent enough person, just portray some of that decency, please...

doubleT wrote:
I got into this hobby because I saw colorfull armies on impressive modelled tables. These armies became alive in my mind because they had character.

And some people got into this hobby because we enjoy the gaming aspect of warGAMING (its even in the name. see what I did there?)

Nobody has the right to gak on your playskill like you have no right to gak on how their armies look. Just because you have the time/skill to paint well doesn't make the elitism okay in the same way it wouldn't be okay for me as a spectator to follow every move and roll you make with "wow, BRILLIANT idea General Patton!"


Relax, it's a game where we push little plastic men around a table and shout "PEWPEW!!" at each other. Having nicer paintjobs than someone else isn't going to get you laid, no matter how hard you try to convince yourself otherwise.


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happydude wrote:


You are honestly going to compare racism to model paintjobs on toy soldiers?

Wow... just wow... anyway i must head to the mall, have a good one everyone... and bunker... take that down... really. You seem like a decent enough person, just portray some of that decency, please...

happydude wrote:

targetawg wrote:

happydude wrote:

Bunker wrote:

happydude wrote:

Lol and so the lynchmob forms...

And thus the self-stylized martyr is revealed.

Sorry kiddo, doesn't work like that here.

As a consolation prize, and since this thread seems to now be about images more than your backhanded insults...

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That picture is actually very freaking racist. Please remove that.

That's actually not "very freaking racist". Hyper-sensitive much?

It actually is racist to a degree. Sorry.

So it went from: "very freaking racist"
to: "racist to a degree"

In a matter of minutes?

You constantly spamming the term "brosef" is about as racist as that picture. Methinks you just needed another reason to spark some drama.

Have fun at the mall! Though I don't know where the M in "GTL" fits in.

And I'm just kidding, so don't get all bent out of shape, be happy dude!

kronk wrote:A club should be inclusive, not exclusive.

If you want to feel pride at having never put an unpainted army/model on the table, you have certainly earned it. I applaud you for it.

Make your shirt: "Fielding only painted minis since 2005" or something similar. This is something to be proud of and share.

Taking a dig at someone else, even in jest, grates on people.

Lead by example or ispiration, not by shaming others. That's the difference between being mature and acting juvenile.

Kronk's post wins.



And with that, since the topic is generating far more sound and fury that it warrants, I'll close it now.