Melissia wrote:So the release dates are June 14 for NA, and June 10 for international.
Hope it goes on Steam.
I'm amazed that you actually want this game, considering that Duke Nukem is known for being ridiculously misogynistic, and he also embodies pretty much everything you hate about videogames in general (at least from what I've seen).
Personally, I'll pass. Duke Nukem should've stayed dead.
Melissia wrote:So the release dates are June 14 for NA, and June 10 for international.
Hope it goes on Steam.
I'm amazed that you actually want this game, considering that Duke Nukem is known for being ridiculously misogynistic, and he also embodies pretty much everything you hate about videogames in general (at least from what I've seen).
Personally, I'll pass. Duke Nukem should've stayed dead.
What are you talking about Chrysaor? Duke Nukem has class. Like when you throw women over your shoulder and spank them!
Melissia wrote:So the release dates are June 14 for NA, and June 10 for international.
Hope it goes on Steam.
I'm amazed that you actually want this game, considering that Duke Nukem is known for being ridiculously misogynistic, and he also embodies pretty much everything you hate about videogames in general (at least from what I've seen).
Personally, I'll pass. Duke Nukem should've stayed dead.
I'm amazed that you actually want this game, considering that Duke Nukem is known for being ridiculously misogynistic, and he also embodies pretty much everything you hate about videogames in general (at least from what I've seen).
Personally, I'll pass. Duke Nukem should've stayed dead.
Dr_Wasabi wrote:I would never stop laughing if Gearbox decided to pull the greatest troll of all time and cancel DNF the week before it was scheduled to come out.
Laodamia wrote:I have but one concern with this new game: the graphics look like they come straight from the Stone Age.
Oh come on, they're not that bad. Or would you rather they go on hiatus for another 2 years so they can update them again, and restart the vicious cycle?
I can think of a number of games that Duke Nukem outshines graphically. Yet no one complains about said games' appearances.
Laodamia wrote:I have but one concern with this new game: the graphics look like they come straight from the Stone Age.
Oh come on, they're not that bad. Or would you rather they go on hiatus for another 2 years so they can update them again, and restart the vicious cycle?
I can think of a number of games that Duke Nukem outshines graphically. Yet no one complains about said games' appearances.
Because said games don't face the same expectations from the gamers. Nor did they make the gaming community wait 12 years for a sequel.
The Duke games won a huge support from the gaming community. Now DNF has to live up to this reputation.
Personally, i'd rather wait and have updated graphics. If I can wait for 12 years for a full game, then I can certainly wait for 2 more (if it even takes that long) so that I can enjoy it graphically.
I didn't care much for Halo graphics, because in the small handful of years it took for the sequels, I knew it wouldn't be a huge upgrade, but when you take a game that has been 12 years in the making... well, you sort of expect that everything possible has been polished.
Look at DNF's history before you judge too harshly.
The original project was all but completely scrapped when Gearbox picked it up from 3DRealms. Since they scooped it up, it's been getting solid development. A large part of the 12 year wait isn't the fault of Gearbox Software, it's 3DRealms. They were the ones constantly retweaking it and putting off release because "it wasn't good enough". Gearbox on the other hand, took the game, decided it needed to be bloody finished, and did just that.
And I really don't see what's wrong with the Graphics. The water coming out of the showerheads looks a tad off, and the lack of blood pools from dead enemies is a bit disappointing, but otherwise I think the game looks great.
Hell perfectly fine, Ill be able to run them in high, and others will be able to run them without having to upgrade their gaming PCs or deal with gakky console hardware hamstringing them.
Pretty much my thoughts Melissia. TBH though, I'm suprised you'd want to play with the Duke .
The two things I noted could be fixed with a patch or mod easy-peasy. Besides, a game is never about the graphics, unless they're the only thing holding the title up (Read: Call of Duty series, any movie-to-game hellspawn, etc...). I can't say that anyone of the mindset 'graphics make the game' has enough merit to serve as a judge of quality.
I like The Duke. He's a hilarious character. The difference between, say, Duke Nukem and, say, some random douchebag that nobody remembers the name of from Medal of Duty: Call of Honor on the Homefront Battlefield, is because they just honestly don't stick out and don't have any real personality.
Stop and think about it: People have been waiting for Duke since 1998. Why? No one waited for a Hexen sequel, for example. Why? Because it's Duke. It's not the game, it's the character. That spoof of the over the top 'macho' man. It's part of what makes the game fun, and, frankly, gearbox, for the games other faults, pretty much nailed the important parts on the head.
The Ego is his health. And when it runs out, he dies. But it does regenerate. Though in the game's defense, you can easily get your arse handed to you, even on the easiest setting.
1. I have no problems with the graphics. They're certainly not up to Crysis standards or anything, but they're not complete crap either.
2. Game play is pretty straight forward. Your "health" is your Ego. Sort of like the original Halo, if you don't get shot for awhile it comes back. Not sure if doing particularly awesome things gets you Ego back immediately or anything. Guess I could check.
3. The Car isn't nearly as hard to control as I feared it would be.
4. I am super pumped and can not wait for the full game to arrive. I ordered the Balls of Steel edition back when it initially went on sale on Amazon.
My only real complaint is that you can only carry two weapons at a time. Would have really liked it to harken back to Duke 3D where you carried around a crap ton of weapons.
As long as it isn't "modern" then I am happy. Duke shouldn't need cover or band-aids or anything. Give him a gun and an alien to shoot at and I am a happy person. Oh and the shrink ray was amazing.
Is it just me or does it seem strange that right now, everyone is talking about Duke Nukem, Mortal Kombat and X Men. Did I travel back through the wormhole to the 90's again?
BaronIveagh wrote:Is it just me or does it seem strange that right now, everyone is talking about Duke Nukem, Mortal Kombat and X Men. Did I travel back through the wormhole to the 90's again?
There was a thread a few days ago complaining about the Star Wars prequels, so I'm thinking yes, some kind of time anomaly has occured.
I think the public demo comes out during the weekend. It doesn't tell much about the game though. You get the idea that 'yea, it's totally Duke', but that's about it.
Also, I found that turd and tossed it around a bit. It's definately just as amusing as it was in the trailer.
Joystiq gave the 360 version a 4, and, reading the review, I can see why. If you didn't like Duke to begin with and hate low brow humor, then, YES, you will probably not like DNF.
It's sort of like saying 'I HATE JRPGs and Final Fantasy in particular, now here's my review of Final Fantasy 7 and why it SUCKS" Haters gonna hate.
You have regenerating health, or rather a shield. the shield is called: Your ego, which gets upgraded by doing macho things, like pumping weights, pumping iron, killing bosses, gambling, playing pinball...
Be warned, this game is not a great shooter, it's a great allround package.
What I don't understand is why this totalbiscuit guy is whining? I'm watching it and I can't help but think how much of a blast I'd be having doing this stuff.
BaronIveagh wrote:What I don't understand is why this totalbiscuit guy is whining? I'm watching it and I can't help but think how much of a blast I'd be having doing this stuff.
I think its because he had certain expectations of the game, an he's sad that the game doesn't lives up to his wishes.
It just baffles me, particularly the thing about minigames. Granted, there do seem to be a lot of them in the early levels.
BUT: Duke has had these before... How many of you played pool in DN3D? Yes, it's a tendency in Modern FPS design to have some minigames... because DN3D did it!
I got it, not worth £40 or the best shooter ive ever played. However it is a lot of fun and at the end of the day that is why most of us play games anyway.
p.s. Politicaly correct or womens rights actavists need not play, you WONT like it. But everyone elce on the other hand?
Frankly if you go into this game expecting anything other than a low rez version of an 80s action movie in video game form, you're setting yourself up for disappointment. My "Balls of Steel" edition should be at my house when I get home and frankly I can't wait to play it.
As to reviews, I'm guessing there's a lot of confirmation bias in some. People go into the game expecting it to be bad because it's been in development so long, so when they play it all they can pick out is the things they don't like. They ignore the things that they laugh at or enjoy or what have you.
According to the tracking number on UPS.com, those dill-holes forgot to put either one of of my copies of the Balls of Steel Edition on a plane to Kamloops, and it's been sitting in Richmond since 10am. You'd think that a $200.00+ order would have a little more attention paid to it. Just reminds me why I never ship with UPS.
It's not 'old Duke Nukem' awesome. It's more like "It's Duke Nukem breaking the ice" awesome, as if he's been gone for a long time and needs to get his mojo back... Ohwai-
The good news is that with Gearbox and 2K running the Duke show now, there's a chance for future games, and unlike 3dRealms, Gearbox, and Pitchford, won't go back and keep scrapping the project because it's not good enough for George F***ing Broussard.
Only about 2 hours in but its a great game so far. Hail to the king baby. However I do agree that it seems to rub new age gamers the wrong way. But if you enjoyed the Duke of old then this game won't disappoint. Its basically a slap stick film, but in game form. The amount of detail in all of the areas and the random/funny gak you can find or do in this game is amazing. Anybody beat the pinball high score yet? I haven't been able to break even 100 000 points on it yet.
Movac wrote:Ten years in the making, this one will probably be a mega-bad.
Twelve. But it is awesome, not bad.
Certainly not awesome.
Most assuredly awesome. Well paced, varied, lots of neat gameplay ideas, good graphics. Certainly better than the average CoD/BF/MoH/Halo clone or whatever.
Well, UPS has officially crapped the bed in my books. My next day shipment is now a day and a half late, I'm to pay UPS brokerage charges that were not billed to me prior -or- mentioned in any way, and the driver didn't even f***ing knock on my door despite the fact that MY CAR WAS IN THE F***ING DRIVEWAY and I found a denial of service note saying that he was just here 30 minutes ago but couldn't deliver the package.
UPS is pretty damn terrible. I avoid it whenever possible.
Also I'm going to agree with Mel on Duke. I'm not that far in (my achievement lust forced me to replay a level looking for one last ego boost I missed...) but it's a blast so far. Certainly not top line graphics, but the game play, humor and well.. DUKE! make the entire thing awesome to play.
This is what makes Duke much better than the current wave of FPS (except Half-Life) is the other stuff you get to do in the game. They kept the game true to it's roots, almost as if they just took the original game and used a different graphics engine, which is good for those who loved the original game. It's freaking Duke Nukem...the gameplay will never be any different.
Movac wrote:Ten years in the making, this one will probably be a mega-bad.
Twelve. But it is awesome, not bad.
Certainly not awesome.
Most assuredly awesome. Well paced, varied, lots of neat gameplay ideas, good graphics. Certainly better than the average CoD/BF/MoH/Halo clone or whatever.
Well me, and a lot of other critics (internet/paper/random blogs) disagree.
The humour is great in places, in some it's really noticeably forced. And where are Duke's one liners? They used to be almost every time he makes a kill, now they're pretty sparse.
The gameplay is generic with regenerative health and why is Duke suddenly only limited to two weapons?
See, you might say 'better than average CoD/BF/MoH/Halo', but it's essentially the same with some occasional witty one liners that don't make appearances enough. Also, there's a distinct lack of 'secret' areas with neat stuff like the originals.
Sure you can draw dicks on everything, but that doesn't rescue it.
A "Critic" is just someone paid to give their opinion. With the age of the internet and easy access to the thoughts and opinions of others, I can't understand why "Critic" is still a paid profession...
Can shove it up their collective arses. Your opinions ain't worth a rat's ass more than mine are. Actually the opinions of professional critics are worth less as critics are paid for it and therefor they represent their employer's interests rather than just being honest, so they can shove it up sideways instead.
Rude that may be, but honestly, I couldn't care less. Reviewers have been horribly wrong about games my entire life. They ain't gonna stop being wrong now.
Wolfun wrote:The humour is great in places, in some it's really noticeably forced.
I thought it was almost all pretty amusing.
Wolfun wrote:And where are Duke's one liners? They used to be almost every time he makes a kill, now they're pretty sparse.
You never actually played the original duke nukem games then, because that is false.
Wolfun wrote: The gameplay is generic
We aren't playing the same game then, as it's FAR more vvaried than the average FPS game.
Claiming it sucks because it's a great game, but not good enough fo some ridiculously stupid, moronic, and utterly arbitrary high standard is just nonsensical unless you hold EVERY game to that ridiculously stupid, moronic, and utterly arbitrary high standard.
metallifan wrote:Well, UPS has officially crapped the bed in my books. My next day shipment is now a day and a half late, I'm to pay UPS brokerage charges that were not billed to me prior -or- mentioned in any way, and the driver didn't even fething knock on my door despite the fact that MY CAR WAS IN THE FETHING DRIVEWAY and I found a denial of service note saying that he was just here 30 minutes ago but couldn't deliver the package.
Epic
Fail
UPS.
You've lost my business from here on.
Aye I hate that, they pull that over here as well.
I still don't get it, because how can grabbing the box and getting me to sign it, be any slower than filling in one of those danged forms before posting it.
Whats annoying is I've not managed to catch them in the act, the second time one pulled it, I was doing something so didn't hear the slip get posted. I'd just love to see the reaction if I barrelled out the door two moments after he posts saying, I'm here you muppet!
Been playing it
its very duke nukem< problem is children dont want to play a game from 1999
puzzies are straight forward and differed< only complaint is the fights arent really that long and levels are somewhat short.
Can shove it up their collective arses. Your opinions ain't worth a rat's ass more than mine are. Actually the opinions of professional critics are worth less as critics are paid for it and therefor they represent their employer's interests rather than just being honest, so they can shove it up sideways instead.
Rude that may be, but honestly, I couldn't care less. Reviewers have been horribly wrong about games my entire life. They ain't gonna stop being wrong now.
Wolfun wrote:The humour is great in places, in some it's really noticeably forced.
I thought it was almost all pretty amusing.
Wolfun wrote:And where are Duke's one liners? They used to be almost every time he makes a kill, now they're pretty sparse.
You never actually played the original duke nukem games then, because that is false.
Wolfun wrote: The gameplay is generic
We aren't playing the same game then, as it's FAR more vvaried than the average FPS game.
Claiming it sucks because it's a great game, but not good enough fo some ridiculously stupid, moronic, and utterly arbitrary high standard is just nonsensical unless you hold EVERY game to that ridiculously stupid, moronic, and utterly arbitrary high standard.
Like you said, opinions. To me, opinions are like orgasms. <text redacted; impolite --Janthkin>
I woudn't get too worried over varying opinions to do with games and if other folks like them or not.
I'm a huge Dynasty Warriors fan, and every year pretty much I just have to laugh at it getting 50-55% reviews with their biggest criticism being its still using the same controls, even if character updates, levels and such have all improved and slight modifications to those controls have occured.
Then without a pause of breath they'll give the current Fifa game 80-95% and its nigh on the same game at heart every year.
I laugh because I love it, and play it a lot each edition year on year, well par DW6, that one did kinda suck.
If you like it, then have fun playing it, thats all that matters.
From some of the issues I've seen folks raising, I'm kinda jealous. Being a big Doom fan, Doom 3 was like a slap in the face.
I didn't want Half Life with Demons, just the same awesome gameplay, with an big graphics update, and use of things they couldn't do previously. The whole scrounging for ammo, torch thing did my head in. I wanted carnage, and got meh.
Sounds like Duke fans are at least playing something they recognise.
Wolfun wrote:To me, opinions are like orgasms. I don't give a feth about yours as long as I have one. Nor am I going to bother arguing, because you seem to be in complete denial over the game as a whole.
If it all comes down to opinions, then how could she be in denial of her own opinion? That's a rather silly arguement...
Wolfun wrote:To me, opinions are like orgasms. I don't give a feth about yours as long as I have one. Nor am I going to bother arguing, because you seem to be in complete denial over the game as a whole.
If it all comes down to opinions, then how could she be in denial of her own opinion? That's a rather silly arguement...
Indeed, and I have to agree with Mel here, anyone who gets paid to be critic/reviewer can no longer ben objective in anyway, since they represent a company now.
Indeed... I enjoyed the game. I loved it. In fact, screw you critic, I'm gonna kick ass on duke nukem forever and post on dakka, and I just logged off.
How long does it take to complete single player anyways? Also how is multiplayer? I'm very tempted to pick up a copy. The Duke has a special place in my heart.
Singleplayer is good. It's not quite on par with old duke, but they did a pretty good job considering it was only like 10 guys from the original project, and the rest was Gearbox.
The length of the game clocks in at about 18 hours.
Duke still feels like Duke.If you're one of those pansies that needs characters with depth, personality and believable personal problems, get the f*** out of here, because the Duke doesn't have time for that crap. But if you're in it for the beers, babes, and boobs, then you'll be right at home
I haven't tried the MP yet, but it looks very much like your basic oldschool DM/CTF/TDM/KOTH
Actually duke DOES have depth and etc, he's just not a pussy like many modern heroes. He's quite a fun character.
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Infreak wrote:How long does it take to complete single player anyways? Also how is multiplayer? I'm very tempted to pick up a copy. The Duke has a special place in my heart.
I beat it in ten hours, but I'm going through it again to get all the secrets.
I agree for duke fans it feels like a true duke game. So far I am very pleased with it (not finished the single player yet, stupid crunch time at work ). Still haven't jumped into multi-player either. To busy kicking ass and looking for bubble gum to bother with it.
