Rumours are getting more concrete on what seems to be the next army book after Tomb Kings.

Some quotes from Warseer:

jamesterjlrb wrote:I have information that GW will be pushing Ogres at Games Day. I cannot post the exact nature of how they will be pushing them as i do not know how many people have been told this and therefore whether i will compromise anyone. I can say i do not mean from a sales point of view but more from a "have ogres everywhere" point of view. This would suggest to me that GW are preparing to release Ogres soon after Games Day.

ghost21 wrote:New kits, 1 character based (possibly 2 it's kind of complicated) , rhinox rider / scraplauncher.(...)
They are planned for October as far as I know.(...)
Yhetees will get new models, not sure if they are going to be in the first wave though.
They are going to be more useful now.
Oh slave giants ... will be a mount option in the version I saw as a gnoblar char can use one.
Gut magic is more streamlined. You buy the spells you want.
Hunters get entire packs ... and a bear thing.
A chariot my imagine the carnage.....
(spelling fixed as always with ghost21 posts for better readability)

Nice find. My friend will be pleased

Be interesting to see if they keep Ogres relatively cheap for a monster unit (Most monsters are now £27-33 for a box of 3).

Personally, I'd advise any would be ogre players to stock up now.

Ah. Mixed feelings about this, they kinda needed an upgrade, but they're already lethal with stomp and monstous support and all that, hopefully the new book won't make them too OP.

Still, those rhinox riders sound cool

"Buy the spells you want".

Well, I guess it wouldn't do to keep it Loremaster Every-Butcher. What with being able to cast the same spell with rising difficulties and what-not. Still, decent work-around to the issue of "Only one copy of buff / army". Too bad TK Liche Priests couldn't be likewise - would have been nice seeing them that way and would give some (reliable) army customizability with Priest use.

EDIT: Saying it wouldn't do insofar as a Level 2 last edition - on his / her own - would have merely 4 PD. Now? Most probably they'd have 6-8.

October? Just in time for my birthday! First skaven in october, now OK ?

Ogre CHARIOTS?

The Empire calls those steam tanks...

So this solidifies the claim of a 40k book prior months? August per chance

I must be having one of those days. On the first read through I read Slave Giants as Slave Girls, and it wasn't til I read more carefully and came to the mount option line did I glance back and realize my mistake.

Glad to see the Ogres getting some love. It may make me pick up fantasy for the first time in 3 editions.

This will get me back into Fantasy if it's true. I've got a huge Ogre army (50+ Ogre Models). I'll even stock up on a few more battle forces (whatever they are called in fantasy).

Both Maelstrom and Waylands have already removed the Ogre Battalion from their listings, so you'd have to get them from GW direct.

Really? For serious? How about doing Bretonnians friggin GW. They are a bit older than OK.

I wonder if the Ogre are getting new models personal i think that the models could be improved(not saying there bad) and can't wait to see the slave giant as a mount.

Argh, now I need to decide if I should buy the ogre battallion now, before it becomes a crap deal!

Hmmmmm.....Ogre Kingdoms suddenly interest me more than before....

ironhandstraken wrote:I wonder if the Ogre are getting new models personal i think that the models could be improved(not saying there bad) and can't wait to see the slave giant as a mount.

Why wouldn't they be getting new models? I don't understand why anybody needs to question "new release = new models" as there's no precedent otherwise. I don't see them redoing the Ogre Bulls or Leadbelchers though, if that's what you're trying to say.

BUY OGRE BATTALIONS NOW AAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

Hmm, too vague for me to plan any purchases. Not like I need much having over 6k in OK, but ya never know!

As long as they don't mess with my -highly anticipated- Necron release, it's always good to see some more victims for my Orcs & Goblins
CHOPPA TIME!

Brother SRM wrote:

ironhandstraken wrote:I wonder if the Ogre are getting new models personal i think that the models could be improved(not saying there bad) and can't wait to see the slave giant as a mount.

Why wouldn't they be getting new models? I don't understand why anybody needs to question "new release = new models" as there's no precedent otherwise. I don't see them redoing the Ogre Bulls or Leadbelchers though, if that's what you're trying to say.

I actually think Ogre core models ( in the batttalion ) will follow same example as Tomb Kings.

Betting on it :3

VermGho5t wrote:Really? For serious? How about doing Bretonnians friggin GW. They are a bit older than OK.

Check the rumors threads...it seems you're also in line to receive some attention (can't say it wasn't about time you did...you squishy 'umies need it)

Several people have mentioned it, but the ogre core models (bulls) are really cheap right now, and the battalion is the best battalion deal in all of fantasy.

So YES, if you're going to start them, it'd be better to get it now... otherwise, you may face what O&G players saw (regular orcs doubling in price, or halving in numbers of models per box... you say tomayta, I say tomahta...)

Even ironguts are relatively cheap at 4 for $40, with the insane amount of extras that come in the box. 6 for $40 for bulls is just fantastic.

Imagine yourself in river troll territory... 3 for $44.50. Now go buy them before that happens that is, if you're going to anyway...

Slave Giant as a mount for a Knoblar? Awesome Sauce!
Plastic Rhinox cavalry are almost guaranteed, price will be about the same as TK monstrous cavalry or even more. We'll just have to see what kind of even bigger monster they can fit into Ogre Kingdoms.

Guessing the Rhinox riders will be on the same scale as the sphynx and spider.

Don't think the chariot will be that big. A normal chariot can fit a single ogre instead of multiple orcs/chaos warriors. It would add some much needed speed to an ogre army.

Wha? Ogres already have damn suprising speed. 12" march is madness.

Pretty much all monstrous infantry have M6... it is scary, though!

I keep telling myself I've got a couple of months to get the battallion and I don't need to buy it now. I think it's working. *crams fist in mouth*

Ogres have a very good march distance, but they are very lacking in the pursuit category. After ogres smash face an the enemy breaks having a swiftstride unit to catch them would be nice.

schadenfreude wrote:Ogres have a very good march distance, but they are very lacking in the pursuit category. After ogres smash face an the enemy breaks having a swiftstride unit to catch them would be nice.

Eh? That's what sabretusks are for. Release the tusks!

Please delete.

Oopps error,Wi fi crashed.

Most excellent,about time.Now the Rhinox are going to affordible.I can not wait for the Big Kit.Here is a pik of my wip Tyrant mounted on a Rhinox.

ghost21 confirmed that the Rhinox of the scrap loader is indead a baby Rhinox and that the mounts are bigger.

It's funny how big the "baby" rhinox is. Here's a wip I'm doing for my WoC (counts-as juggernaut):



And it doesn't hold a candle to the big fella above... however, if I had to guess I'm expecting any new GW ones to be smaller than their current FW counterparts. Those things are behemoths...

I only hope that the battalion doesn't increase dramatically like the Tomb Kings one

Im so afraid it will, that I might actually get stuff now even though I won't start them for a long time, just to be safe

Although i'm laughing picturing ogres on a chariot,
that would be hilarious

Kroot, was there anything a little more solid on Gut Magic? is it just going to be changed into a Lore or what exactly?

Not yet. The Warseer thread was closed because some posters were off topic. Naughty naughty, no dinner!

I'll miss Gut Magic in it's current form, to be honest.

Pretty much all monstrous infantry have M6... it is scary, though!

Lame I got rid of all my Ogres lol. Oh well hopefully start seeing them around now

Some updates from Warseer:

Vepr wrote:Wintermute has graciously allowed me to open another thread for Ogres rumors.

ghost21 wrote:Ogres will have new weapon options

GodlessM wrote:I can back the rumours of plastic Yhetees, Scraplauncher (this is the platform thingy), and Rhinox Riders are the plastic kits from my own sources.

Harry wrote:

silks wrote:Harry did clarify on the Ogre Stronghold that he liked the pun rather than saying it would definitely be October.

Yes ... couldn't resist.
But I am sure they are the next full army release. (with a book, etc.)

Given the waves of stuff that are coming before them as time goes on I can't see them coming any sooner
... but then I was surprised when TK turned up a couple of months before I was expecting them.

ferrus wrote:I heard rumours of plastic Rhinox cavalry.

Me too.

Darnok wrote:Birdy time.

Ogres gain resilience through improved save, not sure if its a 6+ scaly skin or a 6+ regen. Fluff has to do with their layers of fat/gut
Ogre magic augment spells will no longer be remains in play, expect magic to be in line with all other lores, butchers/slaugthermasters may loose loremaster
Ogre ironguts go to strength 5, will have option to take a great weapon or a cls
Rhinox riders are in the list officially
Maneaters may gain the ability to improve their stats to reflect their worldly experience, unit may choose one: +1 bs, +1 ws, +1T or terror.
Leadbelchers receive normal cannons, move or fire. So can shoot normal cannon ball (D3 wounds) or grapeshot.
Restrictions for gnoblars and scraplaunchers are gone
Bignames no longer count towards magic item allowance

My personal opinion on this: some things sound plausible, some I have heard/read before, and some I would take with a bit of salt. But I appreciate them nonetheless.

The one thing that I disliked the most about the Ogre Kingdoms is their fluff. Even by GW standards it's ridicously gory.

Looking forward to it though. Not that I plan on playing Fantasy any time soon, but some new rules might give me some ideas for my Ogre Pirate army.

Excellent update, thanks!

Kroothawk wrote:
Ogre magic augment spells will no longer be remains in play, expect magic to be in line with all other lores, butchers/slaugthermasters may loose loremaster

To the bomb shelter!

Leadbelchers receive normal cannons, move or fire. So can shoot normal cannon ball (D3 wounds) or grapeshot.

As an OK player, this is a ridiculous overpowering change - a unit ogres with cannons has all the benefits of war machines but no drawbacks. Even if charged they can still mop up what charges them after grapeshot, and if a large unit charges them then the OK player deserves to lose letting such a large unit get that close.

Have to go up in points quite substantially for this to be true.

I agree, unless it's still a 1 turn uninterrupted to reload or such. I'm excited, still.

Stock up the battalion box guys :3

They BETTER allow slaughtermasters to be generals.

And if it's not a gory mess of a book- I'm not buying it!

derek wrote:I must be having one of those days. On the first read through I read Slave Giants as Slave Girls, and it wasn't til I read more carefully and came to the mount option line did I glance back and realize my mistake.

I was hoping for Slave Girl Giants

And I reckon ogre chariots should be drawn by ogres instead of beasts. Probably won't happen though...

Worth noting that the lack of finecast for Ogres also backs this up. Only other army with no finecast is Necrons, so I guess that's likely August and September wrapped up?

Worth noting sisters haven't got any finecast either and to the best of my knowledge September is a "special release" along the lines of Space Hulk. November has nothing in although some have said crons will be pushed back to early 2012, with sisters, november and ogres october, or vice versa. Although Crons and sisters may be switched. All in all no one really knows... and those that do can't tell.

fullheadofhair wrote:

Leadbelchers receive normal cannons, move or fire. So can shoot normal cannon ball (D3 wounds) or grapeshot.

As an OK player, this is a ridiculous overpowering change - a unit ogres with cannons has all the benefits of war machines but no drawbacks. Even if charged they can still mop up what charges them after grapeshot, and if a large unit charges them then the OK player deserves to lose letting such a large unit get that close.

Have to go up in points quite substantially for this to be true.

Yeah, T4 and 3 wounds...much easier to kill than a cannon.

Need to get me more OK battalions then... oh, wait, I already have three :3

Can't wait for Octogre!

If my 30 bulls aren't enough, I don't need more.

If leadbelchers are going to be good... definitely get the Battalion box before the book release / model updates. They're the only reason you might consider not getting it with their current rules, but it's a great deal even without them. With them being good... it's by far the best deal in fantasy.

Really looking forward to possible plastic Rhinox Riders and resin Yhetees, it's price that has stopped me getting both, and for once their likely to be cheaper when remade

I look forward to telling a ten year old that his recent purchase of the Army Book will be obsolete in a few months time.
Am sure his parents will be chuffed.

The current models look pretty good to me. Don't feel they would need a massive makeover.

RiTides wrote:If leadbelchers are going to be good... definitely get the Battalion box before the book release / model updates. They're the only reason you might consider not getting it with their current rules, but it's a great deal even without them. With them being good... it's by far the best deal in fantasy.

I stashed away 2 Battalions I got from The War Store last year knowing that amazing deal likely wouldn't survive at that level price break at the next price increase. Two Ogre Battalions for $72 each, that's like getting the model sets separately at about half price. And I recently found another box of Ogre Bulls on eBay for $25 flat. When the army is revised all I'll need is a couple of the best cool new models plus the new army book from my local game shops and I'm ready to go.

BrassScorpion wrote:

RiTides wrote:If leadbelchers are going to be good... definitely get the Battalion box before the book release / model updates. They're the only reason you might consider not getting it with their current rules, but it's a great deal even without them. With them being good... it's by far the best deal in fantasy.

I stashed away 2 Battalions I got from The War Store last year knowing that amazing deal likely wouldn't survive at that level price break at the next price increase. Two Ogre Battalions for $72 each, that's like getting the model sets separately at about half price. And I recently found another box of Ogre Bulls on eBay for $25 flat. When the army is revised all I'll need is a couple of the best cool new models plus the new army book from my local game shops and I'm ready to go.

Try my first for 72, second for 50, third for 20... all new and unopened.

Hehehe. I do love the Ogre Batallion.

Got a free one last year, and the second half price. Was good to be staff! Cheapest army I ever built, and they are well hard in a horde!

You guys are making me jealous . I've often wondered why I didn't go the Ogre route, instead of WoC trolls... ogres are so much cheaper! It's awesome that they're getting a new book because imho they're a great beginner's army- close combat oriented, less models to build/paint, and pretty easy to use.

Plus you get to muck around with Gnoblars. Only takes a bit of luck to utterly humiliate any regiment in the game!

Hell, I had them bottle my Manticore off the board once with a stand and fire :(

Go, buy your Ogres today!

This new banner stands out among the others usually seen in the stores:

derek wrote:I must be having one of those days. On the first read through I read Slave Giants as Slave Girls, and it wasn't til I read more carefully and came to the mount option line did I glance back and realize my mistake.

Sigged

Sure, update the much newer and fairly competitive ogres and leave Bretonnians the only 6th edition army left.

won't forget this one GW, thats twice we've been passed up for update

Anyway, I guess good news for the OK players.

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure Ogres came out in 6th edition as well and before the latest bretonian book...If they weren't before it they were the army right after since I remember painting both those armies for our store displays back in like 2002 or so.....Could be slightly off, I'm getting old

...Ogres are "competitive"?

Ogres re 6th ed
Dwarves are 6th ed
Brets are 6th ed
Wood Elves are 6th ed

I think one poster has little concept of how old some books are.

I think that's not the only concept they're failing to grasp...but it's okay because he's not alone at least. I saw someone a week or two ago claim that Orks were "hyper competitive" or something of that nature. I don't think they were being sarcastic, either.

Alright, sorry, I misjudged how old a couple of books are. I still think Brets are the oldest book out right now and are due an update.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:I look forward to telling a ten year old that his recent purchase of the Army Book will be obsolete in a few months time.
Am sure his parents will be chuffed.

And I have a new sig.

If they were to remove the iron shackles that are the OK hero and lor choice restrictions than maybe they would become competitive. Overall i think Brets are far more competitive than ogres and that this was a good call by GW.

EmilCrane wrote:Alright, sorry, I misjudged how old a couple of books are. I still think Brets are the oldest book out right now and are due an update.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armies_of_Warhammer:
Bretonnia (2004)
Ogre Kingdom (2005)
Wood Elves (2005)
Dwarfs (2005)
7th edition (2006)
I remember it because GW introduced a new race (Ogres) and a new fraction (Kislev) just to avoid making the Wood Elf army book.

Thanks, Kroot. I was about to do that very thing. And yes, the OK are much more competitive due to 8th ed. If I were to have my choice, the order would be WE/Brets/Dwarves/Ogres in order of general need. WE are in abominable shape right now, Brets are only a LITTLE better. Dwarves really only need a few price adjustments and rules inclusions to bring them into line (Stubborn across the board, a Book of Grudges hero upgrade, a few new runes, lower cost of units) and I want them before OK for purely selfish reasons. OK DO need help, but they are a strong army in 8th. People who actually play the army and their opponants know this.

Small update: 75hastings69 over at Warseer just confirmed the Ogre release for October, and his word is gospel
He also confirmed 2nd waves for Vampire Counts (incl. large monster mount) and Beastmen (incl. Cygor/Gorgon) later this year BTW.

Kroothawk wrote:Small update: 75hastings69 over at Warseer just confirmed the Ogre release for October, and his word is gospel
He also confirmed 2nd waves for Vampire Counts (incl. large monster mount) and Beastmen (incl. Cygor/Gorgon) later this year BTW.

Zombie Dragon / Winged Nightmare hybrid kit?
Plastic Black Knights?
New zombies >.<? wooo

Ah. Mixed feelings about this, they kinda needed an upgrade, but they're already lethal with stomp and monstous support and all that, hopefully the new book won't make them too OP.

Still, those rhinox riders sound cool

My brother plays Ogres. In all honesty, I think he is going to quit playing GW games. There is just so much dumb crap that happens in a game and there is nothing you can do about it. He played a game last night where his opponent had Pit of Shades. He was playing Dark Elves and channeled the bigger version of it. Entire unit of ogres with a Bruiser and a Slave Giant right next to it. Gone. Nothing you can do about it. Get lucky and roll a lot of 1's I guess. It is really silly because that hurts Ogres SOOO bad since their bread n' butter unit costs a ton of points to field.

So, in my opinion, Ogres are not that good...

Yeah I have my fingers crossed for some kind of "too fat to die" rule in the new book to help out with the whole purple sun garbage Mr. Matt Ward so kindly wrote back into 8th edition.

Kroothawk wrote:Small update: 75hastings69 over at Warseer just confirmed the Ogre release for October, and his word is gospel
He also confirmed 2nd waves for Vampire Counts (incl. large monster mount) and Beastmen (incl. Cygor/Gorgon) later this year BTW.

Just a Cygor/Gorgon kit and nothing else? Or a second wave that includes the Cygor/Gorgon? Any other beastly goodness?

Kurce wrote:

Ah. Mixed feelings about this, they kinda needed an upgrade, but they're already lethal with stomp and monstous support and all that, hopefully the new book won't make them too OP.

Still, those rhinox riders sound cool

My brother plays Ogres. In all honesty, I think he is going to quit playing GW games. There is just so much dumb crap that happens in a game and there is nothing you can do about it. He played a game last night where his opponent had Pit of Shades. He was playing Dark Elves and channeled the bigger version of it. Entire unit of ogres with a Bruiser and a Slave Giant right next to it. Gone. Nothing you can do about it. Get lucky and roll a lot of 1's I guess. It is really silly because that hurts Ogres SOOO bad since their bread n' butter unit costs a ton of points to field.

So, in my opinion, Ogres are not that good...

Ogres have a banner that bends pit over.... also how densely packed was he? The large blast template is only so big. That should teach your brother to run a scroll and 1s and 2s save ogres and 3s save the gaint, I call that a fighting chance. And being someone who ties ogres almost every game i play against them (just cant get that uper hand)

Ralin Givens wrote:

Kurce wrote:

Ah. Mixed feelings about this, they kinda needed an upgrade, but they're already lethal with stomp and monstous support and all that, hopefully the new book won't make them too OP.

Still, those rhinox riders sound cool

My brother plays Ogres. In all honesty, I think he is going to quit playing GW games. There is just so much dumb crap that happens in a game and there is nothing you can do about it. He played a game last night where his opponent had Pit of Shades. He was playing Dark Elves and channeled the bigger version of it. Entire unit of ogres with a Bruiser and a Slave Giant right next to it. Gone. Nothing you can do about it. Get lucky and roll a lot of 1's I guess. It is really silly because that hurts Ogres SOOO bad since their bread n' butter unit costs a ton of points to field.

So, in my opinion, Ogres are not that good...

Ogres have a banner that bends pit over.... also how densely packed was he? The large blast template is only so big. That should teach your brother to run a scroll and 1s and 2s save ogres and 3s save the gaint, I call that a fighting chance. And being someone who ties ogres almost every game i play against them (just cant get that uper hand)

That banner doesnt really "bend pit over"... more like it lets them choose another one of the ogres units within 6 to "get bent over" by the pit, instead of the one with the banner. Hopefully by that time you have some gnoblars left alive to take one for the team.

Now I'm curious if the runemaw will remain in the new army book. Sure hope so, its the only banner worth taking in the current one.

Kroothawk wrote:Small update: 75hastings69 over at Warseer just confirmed the Ogre release for October, and his word is gospel
He also confirmed 2nd waves for Vampire Counts (incl. large monster mount) and Beastmen (incl. Cygor/Gorgon) later this year BTW.

Just when I thought I finished my VC army...

NELS1031 wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:He also confirmed 2nd waves for Vampire Counts (incl. large monster mount) and Beastmen (incl. Cygor/Gorgon) later this year BTW.

Just a Cygor/Gorgon kit and nothing else? Or a second wave that includes the Cygor/Gorgon? Any other beastly goodness?

"Incl." stands for including
Nothing else known so far.

He also confirmed 2nd waves for Beastmen (incl. Cygor/Gorgon) later this year

Yay!

Also - A Gnoblar Special Character? That is awesome. A Gnoblar Special Character RIDING A GIANT? That is beyond awesome.

Lame. OK is the most garbage army for fantasy. Truly uninspiring design across the board. Very little character and personality. This army is going to get the hardbound army book treatment before some of the more mainstay armies? Garbage. I can't wait to see the full color glory of all the hideous and uninteresting artwork. I would rather see Chaos Dwarfs get a full color hardbound book dedicated to them from Games Workshop and OK can go to ForgeWorld and be thrown into a collected book for me to scoff at.

EYEofTERROR wrote:Lame. OK is the most garbage army for fantasy. Truly uninspiring design across the board. Very little character and personality. This army is going to get the hardbound army book treatment before some of the more mainstay armies? Garbage. I can't wait to see the full color glory of all the hideous and uninteresting artwork. I would rather see Chaos Dwarfs get a full color hardbound book dedicated to them from Games Workshop and OK can go to ForgeWorld and be thrown into a collected book for me to scoff at.

I would just like to point out that I have saved your post as a template so that it's glory can be brought back in the future, until people are sick of it.

EYEofTERROR wrote:Lame. OK is the most garbage army for fantasy. Truly uninspiring design across the board. Very little character and personality. This army is going to get the hardbound army book treatment before some of the more mainstay armies? Garbage. I can't wait to see the full color glory of all the hideous and uninteresting artwork. I would rather see Chaos Dwarfs get a full color hardbound book dedicated to them from Games Workshop and OK can go to ForgeWorld and be thrown into a collected book for me to scoff at.

Tell me how you really feel about it?

EYEofTERROR wrote:Very little character and personality.

Takes one to know one... if you don't have anything nice to say, why say anything at all? Especially when something is entirely an opinion, a very strong opinion but an opinion nonetheless. There are lots of people out there, myself included, that wouldn't be playing Fantasy at all if it wasn't for the Ogres, so think twice before saying they are uninspired and lacking in character or personality.

EYEofTERROR wrote:Lame. OK is the most garbage army for fantasy. Truly uninspiring design across the board. Very little character and personality. This army is going to get the hardbound army book treatment before some of the more mainstay armies? Garbage. I can't wait to see the full color glory of all the hideous and uninteresting artwork. I would rather see Chaos Dwarfs get a full color hardbound book dedicated to them from Games Workshop and OK can go to ForgeWorld and be thrown into a collected book for me to scoff at.

Ok, have you actually read the book?

Thanks for calling me out. I usually avoid reading and posting due to over opinionated a**holes like I have proven myself to be in this case. I got all worked up for something I care little about. So it's my least favorite army in all of warhammer and I would rather have seen anything else. Big deal. FEEL MY UNWARRANTED WRATH! My apologies. Who farted anyway? Oh it was me. Damn that stinks.

EYEofTERROR wrote:Thanks for calling me out. I usually avoid reading and posting due to over opinionated a**holes like I have proven myself to be in this case. I got all worked up for something I care little about. So it's my least favorite army in all of warhammer and I would rather have seen anything else. Big deal. FEEL MY UNWARRANTED WRATH! My apologies. Who farted anyway? Oh it was me. Damn that stinks.

Apology accepted. I have nothing against you for not liking them, its when you say they are total garbage and you hope they go away that I take issue with it.

I recently got back into Warhammer Fantasy after 15 years and not having the heart to pick the same armies I played before (as thinking about that just reminds me how they are lost to the sands of time...), I had to pick a new army... I picked 2.

One I picked was woodelves, I've always quite liked them and after almost exclusively collecting 'evil' teams, I thought it would be nice to be a good guy for a change.

But the easiest choice for me to make was Ogres. Ever since I first went to Warhammer World and saw them in the case and thought 'Oh my god, Ogres have their own ARMY now? I really like the models. I was chuffed after buying my first box of Bulls, but it was a little disheartening after reading about how poorly they fair in combat (you know, considering ther're ogres). I dont really mind, I'm so bad at 40k that I'm used to losing, thats what I told the guy who sold them to me when he described them as 'challenging' to play. I didnt care, but the new codex coming out does give a ray of hope that they might not just lose the fight, run away and die... all in a matter of moments.

I'm deffinately looking forward to the new rules coming out.

Small tidbit by Zsoulless over at Ogre Stronghold:

Ogres will be coming soon, they've got a VERY heavy plastic cav as well as what I can only describe as being between a chaos war mammoth and a bantha from star wars! which IIRC can be loaded out in 3 or 4 different ways (char mount, large cannon, multiple leadbelcher cannons etc.) IIRC there's also a plastic character kit (butchers & tyrants I think.

Someone say plastic character kits?

The plastic cav also sounds pretty cool but I suspect there is little faith for the release as a whole with all the shenanigans

I shall wait and see.

My Ogre army at the moment is pretty groovy, though I would welcome any change which makes Leadbelchers not utterly gak.

Kroothawk wrote:Small tidbit by Zsoulless over at Ogre Stronghold:

Ogres will be coming soon, they've got a VERY heavy plastic cav as well as what I can only describe as being between a chaos war mammoth and a bantha from star wars! which IIRC can be loaded out in 3 or 4 different ways (char mount, large cannon, multiple leadbelcher cannons etc.) IIRC there's also a plastic character kit (butchers & tyrants I think.

Wait so, they've made an army of Ogres, already damn big. They gave them mounts called Rhinox, which made them ridiculous. Now they want to give them even BIGGER cavalry? Woot? It's gonna be like fielding three Arachnarok in a single unit side-by-side, I think I may need a bigger table.
It's sill gonna be awesome though. I want my Gnoblar riding a slave-giant now!

Yay more cannon bait. I don't know why they keep making these large monster kits when an empire or dwarf player can just off them with one or two cannon shots.

/negativity.

Can't wait for some new ogres.

Hmm, not sure whether this 'cavalry' rumour simply means plastic rhinox - a cross between a ''chaos war mammoth and a bantha' does sound rhinoxish...

Clang wrote:Hmm, not sure whether this 'cavalry' rumour simply means plastic rhinox - a cross between a ''chaos war mammoth and a bantha' does sound rhinoxish...

You have misread what he posted, he said "as well as" meaning the mammoth thing is separate from the cavalry.

The mamoth thing is real. I heard about it months ago from a regional manager. Every army gets a big unit.

Surtur wrote: Every army gets a big unit.

Every army gets a big unit with a howda to be precise. Hooray for variety

Flashman wrote:Personally, I'd advise any would be ogre players to stock up now.

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