Guys, is it me or does Lady(if she deserves this title....) Gaga seem to be getting lower and lower down their on the scale of worth? With every new song or Album she releases she seems much less...normal i guess?
Her music isn't unbearable, it just seems she as a person is. Im a catholic, not zealous or anything, but the new Album "Judas" sort of irked me, not even with the depiction of the faith, but just because it seemed like she was whoring out faith to make more money.
She used to be a pole dancer... go figure.
Her music is pretty good i don't particularly care for her publicity stunts but other than that I'm not fussed.
Though... this country isn't particularly religious...
Commisar Von Humps wrote:Guys, is it me or does Lady(if she deserves this title....) Gaga seem to be getting lower and lower down their on the scale of worth? With every new song or Album she releases she seems much less...normal i guess?
Her music isn't unbearable, it just seems she as a person is. Im a catholic, not zealous or anything, but the new Album "Judas" sort of irked me, not even with the depiction of the faith, but just because it seemed like she was whoring out faith to make more money.
Does anyone have another view or agree with me?
First off, know what you're talking about. Tell me the real album name and how many of the other songs have Biblical references or what the plot to the Born This Way (henceforth BTW) era is (lame though it may be by comparison). I realize this isn't high on the nerd meter of importance, but Google is a wonderful thing.
She has been very weird this time around though, and really irate. I'm hoping this album is at least decent. She's not "selling out faith to make money" as much as making statements that make a large portion of her major fan base (the gays) really freaking uncomfortable.
purplefood wrote:She used to be a pole dancer... go figure.
Try again. Almost there
ChrisWWII wrote:I prefer the Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged versions of her songs
daedalus wrote:Personally, I just get annoyed when every all-too-trendy dweeb in women's pants goes on trying to tell me she's the next Bowie.
Bowie?...no..Bowie is a ...a dynasty..Gaga..not so much.
In fact...if she is still in the public eye 10 years from now I'll personally fly to Texas and kiss Cannerus on the butt.
daedalus wrote:Personally, I just get annoyed when every all-too-trendy dweeb in women's pants goes on trying to tell me she's the next Bowie.
Bowie?...no..Bowie is a ...a dynasty..Gaga..not so much.
In fact...if she is still in the public eye 10 years from now I'll personally fly to Texas and kiss Cannerus on the butt.
daedalus wrote:Personally, I just get annoyed when every all-too-trendy dweeb in women's pants goes on trying to tell me she's the next Bowie.
Bowie?...no..Bowie is a ...a dynasty..Gaga..not so much.
In fact...if she is still in the public eye 10 years from now I'll personally fly to Texas and kiss Cannerus on the butt.
That may not be a good idea.
Meh,what the hell..I'm a gambling man by nature...and I like my chances.
Besides...what's the worst that could happen...?
daedalus wrote:Personally, I just get annoyed when every all-too-trendy dweeb in women's pants goes on trying to tell me she's the next Bowie.
Bowie?...no..Bowie is a ...a dynasty..Gaga..not so much.
In fact...if she is still in the public eye 10 years from now I'll personally fly to Texas and kiss Cannerus on the butt.
That may not be a good idea.
Meh,what the hell..I'm a gambling man by nature...and I like my chances.
Besides...what's the worst that could happen...?
You have to pay 500 dollars(probably more with inflation...) for a plane ticket, fly down to Texas, and kiss this mans arse. And he may or may not choose not to wipe in advance. So, it could be pretty bad depending of your view on the situation .
Commisar Von Humps wrote:Guys, is it me or does Lady(if she deserves this title....) Gaga seem to be getting lower and lower down their on the scale of worth? With every new song or Album she releases she seems much less...normal i guess?
Her music isn't unbearable, it just seems she as a person is. Im a catholic, not zealous or anything, but the new Album "Judas" sort of irked me, not even with the depiction of the faith, but just because it seemed like she was whoring out faith to make more money.
Does anyone have another view or agree with me?
She's crap. A bad version of Madonna. Next year people will be saying "who's Gaga."
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biccat wrote:She is apparently very eco-friendly, which counts for a lot of people.
Recycling Madonna's music and costumes is very good for the environment.
She has a gimmick which is selling her records, in fact her wierdness is what is helping promote her career therefore she's proberly in the mindset of the wierder she acts the more notice people will take.
Eventually people will tire of her, just like they do to everyone that enters the news for wierd reasons. Hear much of Amy Whinehouse anymore? Granted she is no longer making music, but I think you get what I'm talking about.
Her time will come and go while artists who have integrity may not seem as popular but will have a much longer music career.
Out of curiosity I recently watched her HBO concert special and couldn't help but notice that she herself seemed bored through out the whole show.
Now,while I don't care for the " Hello (insert city here)!!,We love you!!" sort of entertainer either,I do believe that a performer should at least "seem" to be interested in their show.
She came across more like a jaded (occasionaly angry)actress than a musician/singer.
FITZZ wrote: Out of curiosity I recently watched her HBO concert special and couldn't help but notice that she herself seemed bored through out the whole show.
Now,while I don't care for the " Hello (insert city here)!!,We love you!!" sort of entertainer either,I do believe that a performer should at least "seem" to be interested in their show.
She came across more like a jaded (occasionaly angry)actress than a musician/singer.
daedalus wrote:The worst part is that she's pulling off the same gimmick that Devo tried 20 years ago.
"Hey, look at me. I'm really fething weird."
But Devo was weird. They were geeks before there was geek chic. No ironic retro shirts for them. I also don't think I would describe her as weird, either. She is certainly an extrovert and theatrical though.
She's horrendous. 'Born this way' was a complete piece of gak (HEY! Look at me! I'm so unique and cool because I'm unique and cool! Watch me shake my rear end and grind on objects!), and this new Judas thing is just torture.
FITZZ wrote: Well,in all fairness KISS was still a "gimick" act,but yes I agree their lineup did include some talented musicians.
Oh, I'd be crazy to say that they weren't working a gimmick!
I'd also contend that,while KISS may have borrowed some of their theatrics from The New York Dolls and B-Movies,they still had a "uniqueness" about them (for the time)...GaGa just seems to be a composite of Dale Bozio and Marilyn Manson,with a little Madonna sprinkled on top.
Talented in that they knew how to play (which isn't a knock, most people don't), but when matched up against the heavyweights they don't mike the list. Jimmy Page is talented, Niel Peart is talented, Les Claypool is talented. Gene Simmons is competent.
The Fame era, Monster era and BTW era. Like DBZ sagas, more or less. You can see a definite change in style overall between them.
Ravenous D wrote:Just ignore her and she'll go away, its bad enough that poker face song is just a cutesy reference for blow jobs.
It's actually referring to her fantasizing about women while being with men when they suck in bed. It's more or less about manipulation.
FITZZ wrote:
daedalus wrote:Personally, I just get annoyed when every all-too-trendy dweeb in women's pants goes on trying to tell me she's the next Bowie.
Bowie?...no..Bowie is a ...a dynasty..Gaga..not so much.
In fact...if she is still in the public eye 10 years from now I'll personally fly to Texas and kiss Cannerus on the butt.
I like people who rip off other drugged up musicians too And I'll do the prep work beforehand. You will enjoy it as much as you possibly can.
corpsesarefun wrote:While I don't like gaga I love seeing cannerus ripping into folk who say she sucks
We should do this more often.
I wasn't going to start another one, but I was waiting for it
FITZZ wrote: Out of curiosity I recently watched her HBO concert special and couldn't help but notice that she herself seemed bored through out the whole show.
Now,while I don't care for the " Hello (insert city here)!!,We love you!!" sort of entertainer either,I do believe that a performer should at least "seem" to be interested in their show.
She came across more like a jaded (occasionaly angry)actress than a musician/singer.
The HBO special was effing horrendous. I couldn't even watch the whole thing. When you're at the actual show you have bass pounding, instruments playing (including her guitarist soloing the whole time) and you can hear and feel the energy of the fans and you just get sucked in. I really, really wish they had just mic'ed the stage/audience instead of using the gakky soundboard feed. It sounds like a studio album, not a live show. They also cut stuff out which was dumb. My favorite cut was when she's talking about how her guitarist was from New York and she tells him to show them that New Yorkers can play too then two notes into his solo they turn him down and he's off camera. Whoever produced that special needs to die.
Monster Rain wrote:KISS was a competent rock band. Gaga is an auto-tuned novelty act.
Her songs are catchy though. That damned Alejandro song sticks in my head like napalm.
Auto-tuned on one song that's about people being fake to begin with. We've been through this
Ahtman wrote:Talented in that they knew how to play (which isn't a knock, most people don't), but when matched up against the heavyweights they don't mike the list. Jimmy Page is talented, Niel Peart is talented, Les Claypool is talented. Gene Simmons is competent.
Oh,I agree 100%...the "talent" in KISS was Freahly (sp?) and Criss (who was/is an amazing drummer).
Clearly, none of them are on the same level as the greats. At least from what they did in KISS. I haven't listened to a lot of their solo careers. Other than "Do Ya", of course.
The Fame era, Monster era and BTW era. Like DBZ sagas, more or less. You can see a definite change in style overall between them.
That is a terrible use of the word 'era' and doesn't fit in the slightest. Calling a chair a Porsche doesn't mean it is suddenly a car, it just means one doesn't know what a chair or a Porsche is. I do not care for this. harumph.
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Monster Rain wrote:The very word I used to describe them.
Clearly, none of them are on the same level as the greats. At least from what they did in KISS. I haven't listened to a lot of their solo careers. Other than "Do Ya", of course.
Simmons was/is a businessman,marketing KISS and the theatrics were mostly his brain child.
As far as his musical talent...I'm a better bass player than Simmons is.
FITZZ wrote:
As far as his musical talent...I'm a better bass player than Simmons is.
I can sing and know enough chords to play rhythm. We get a lead guitarist and a drummer and we will melt faces.
Hmm...a Dakka Band,interesting idea...of course considering the distance between our respective locations band practice would be a serious undertaking.
Chowderhead wrote:Haven't we talked about making a band for forever?
And I sing a mean baritone, and can play the trumpet.
Well...yes,we have discussed making a band before,but now...given the recent GW price hikes..and the fact that we're all "quitting"...we're going to have to find something to do with our spare time...
So grab your trumpet and you hats and get on board.
On topic ish, the new album leaked! Review so far:
Marry the Night - Okay. Very generic, big dancy sound.
BTW - Sounds a little better in the context of the album. Sounds less cheesy in the context of the album, sadly.
Government Hooker - LOVE. Amazing electro-dance track.
Americano - Westside story on crack. Also like it. The vocal dynamics on this track really impressed me.
Hair - Lyrics are just... kinda terrible. Melody and music are very good, but damn those lyrics. Nobody will ever remember this song.
Scheibe - There's German and I'm confused. In the end a "strong female" song :/
Bloody Mary - Reminds me of t.A.T.u indirectly. Damn religious crap getting mixed in, it's just confusing. Song is okay, but I'd likely skip it most of the time.
We'll see how the rest turns out. 9 more tracks :d
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:On topic ish, the new album leaked! Review so far:
Marry the Night - Okay. Very generic, big dancy sound.
BTW - Sounds a little better in the context of the album. Sounds less cheesy in the context of the album, sadly.
Government Hooker - LOVE. Amazing electro-dance track.
Americano - Westside story on crack. Also like it. The vocal dynamics on this track really impressed me.
Hair - Lyrics are just... kinda terrible. Melody and music are very good, but damn those lyrics. Nobody will ever remember this song.
Scheibe - There's German and I'm confused. In the end a "strong female" song :/
Bloody Mary - Reminds me of t.A.T.u indirectly. Damn religious crap getting mixed in, it's just confusing. Song is okay, but I'd likely skip it most of the time.
We'll see how the rest turns out. 9 more tracks :d
Wait you just put "amazing" and "electro dance track" in the same phrase. I have to ask..are you on drugs?
Has anybody actually stopped and thought about the fact that she can actually sing? She is a showwoman in the same way that Freddie Mercury was a showman (and as Al Murray rightly points, part of one the greatest bands in the world ever!). She did a live session for the world famous Radio 1 Live Lounge and she could sing. It was her and a piano and she was amazing. If you actually take time to listen to her vocal range it's impressive, in the same way Freddie was.
So you don't like her flamboyance or her records, at least recognise that she can sing and put on a show. In thes times of X Factor I thinl we should encourage this type of showmanship not knock it.
Wolfstan wrote:Has anybody actually stopped and thought about the fact that she can actually sing? She is a showwoman in the same way that Freddie Mercury was a showman (and as Al Murray rightly points, part of one the greatest bands in the world ever!). She did a live session for the world famous Radio 1 Live Lounge and she could sing. It was her and a piano and she was amazing. If you actually take time to listen to her vocal range it's impressive, in the same way Freddie was.
So you don't like her flamboyance or her records, at least recognise that she can sing and put on a show. In thes times of X Factor I thinl we should encourage this type of showmanship not knock it.
I don't in fact recognize she can sing, especially in comparison to much of the talent currently out there.
EDIT: I take that back. She definitely has a certain range. However, she is constantly touted as if she's the second coming of freaking Elvis Presley or something, and there is conga line of better female vocalists out there right now. Its completely packaged completely plastic nothing.
Wolfstan wrote:Has anybody actually stopped and thought about the fact that she can actually sing? She is a showwoman in the same way that Freddie Mercury was a showman (and as Al Murray rightly points, part of one the greatest bands in the world ever!). She did a live session for the world famous Radio 1 Live Lounge and she could sing. It was her and a piano and she was amazing. If you actually take time to listen to her vocal range it's impressive, in the same way Freddie was.
So you don't like her flamboyance or her records, at least recognise that she can sing and put on a show. In thes times of X Factor I thinl we should encourage this type of showmanship not knock it.
I don't in fact recognize she can sing, especially in comparison to much of the talent currently out there.
You don't get to sing in the Live Lounge if you can't sing. I can understand that she's not to everybody's taste. Can't imagine she'd be too fussed about the opinions of a group of people who play wargames Each to their own.
I'll match that edit sir. Is that her or the PR from her record company that you see?
Wolfstan wrote:Has anybody actually stopped and thought about the fact that she can actually sing? She is a showwoman in the same way that Freddie Mercury was a showman (and as Al Murray rightly points, part of one the greatest bands in the world ever!). She did a live session for the world famous Radio 1 Live Lounge and she could sing. It was her and a piano and she was amazing. If you actually take time to listen to her vocal range it's impressive, in the same way Freddie was.
So you don't like her flamboyance or her records, at least recognise that she can sing and put on a show. In thes times of X Factor I thinl we should encourage this type of showmanship not knock it.
I don't in fact recognize she can sing, especially in comparison to much of the talent currently out there.
You don't get to sing in the Live Lounge if you can't sing. I can understand that she's not to everybody's taste. Can't imagine she'd be too fussed about the opinions of a group of people who play wargames Each to their own.
I don't know what Live Lounge is. Its probably British and involves haggis. I'm not too fussed that she's not too fussed.
Wolfstan wrote:Has anybody actually stopped and thought about the fact that she can actually sing? She is a showwoman in the same way that Freddie Mercury was a showman (and as Al Murray rightly points, part of one the greatest bands in the world ever!). She did a live session for the world famous Radio 1 Live Lounge and she could sing. It was her and a piano and she was amazing. If you actually take time to listen to her vocal range it's impressive, in the same way Freddie was.
So you don't like her flamboyance or her records, at least recognise that she can sing and put on a show. In thes times of X Factor I thinl we should encourage this type of showmanship not knock it.
I don't in fact recognize she can sing, especially in comparison to much of the talent currently out there.
You don't get to sing in the Live Lounge if you can't sing. I can understand that she's not to everybody's taste. Can't imagine she'd be too fussed about the opinions of a group of people who play wargames Each to their own.
I don't know what Live Lounge is. Its probably British and involves haggis. I'm not too fussed that she's not too fussed.
Why haggis? Only the North people eat that...
And Gaga's PR company is pretty mental so it could easily be them.
corpsesarefun wrote:If there is a dakka dakka band it must include alby, this is not optional.
Fanks! I'm in.
Oh, incidentally....
/plug
I was wondering when this would come out. Thank god it has a release date!
Yeah, not long now - we also got the film yesterday. It's pretty well done, though I look like Shrek in it. Ah, well.
The compilation will be out on the 28th on iTunes and various other online and physical retailers. Hey, here's an interesting (and totally unconnected) fact about iTunes:
You can purchase individual tracks instead of buying the whole album - y'know, just in case all the other tracks are pretty terrible. Like I said, totally unconnected bit of info, that.
Frazzled wrote:
Wait you just put "amazing" and "electro dance track" in the same phrase. I have to ask..are you on drugs?
This exact second? Dear god yes. New roomie, and she's been so nice so far I'm sorry, I'm rambling now.
Frazzled wrote: However, she is constantly touted as if she's the second coming of freaking Elvis Presley or something, and there is conga line of better female vocalists out there right now. Its completely packaged completely plastic nothing.
People don't listen to a female singer for her voice, they listen for her songs. If the best singer in the world is given a billion songs to the tune of Amazing Grace you probably wouldn't pay much attention. I've also learned that "overrated" doesn't always mean bad, the contrast just makes it seem that way.
Incidentally, I'm watching Lady Gaga's performance at BBC Radio 1's Big Weekend - I must say, I am actually very impressed. She sings live (unlike most pop artists), and has a really good voice. Also 'Telephone' is a genuinely great pop song. 'Judas' is still awful though.
I may have to re-think some things. God damn you, Cannerus. God damn you to hell!
Albatross wrote:@ Cheesecat - It isn't a cover. I wrote it.
Incidentally, I'm watching Lady Gaga's performance at BBC Radio 1's Big Weekend - I must say, I am actually very impressed. She sings live (unlike most pop artists), and has a really good voice. Also 'Telephone' is a genuinely great pop song. 'Judas' is still awful though.
I may have to re-think some things. God damn you, Cannerus. God damn you to hell!
*shakes fist*
Cannerus - bending preferences of all manners since god knows when
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