A true relic of the hallowed days of the Great Crusade, and of the heights of technological achievement once reached by the Imperium of Mankind, the Contemptor Pattern Dreadnought was a mainstay of the armoured might of the Astartes Legions of old. Larger and stronger than standard pattern Dreadnoughts, the Contemptor’s systems featured many examples of techno-arcana steeped in the sacred mysteries of the Legio Cybernetica.
Due to their spearhead assault role in the epic battles of the Great Crusade, losses were high amongst these potent war machines, and in the shadowed aftermath of the Heresy the ability to produce or maintain the Contemptor was all but lost. However, some Chapters still boast these war-relics amongst their ranks, and whenever the Contemptor takes to the field of battle it is an echo of the power of ancient days.

The Contemptor Pattern Dreadnought, designed by Will Hayes, is a detailed full resin kit that allows any Space Marine (or Chaos Space Marine) army to field one of these ancient war machines. Will has also designed two unique weapon options: a Contemptor Pattern Lascannon Arm and a Contemptor Pattern Close Combat Arm (Fist). These two weapons can be used on either side of the Dreadnought body, which is itself a fully poseable miniature.
Experimental rules for this storied and ancient Dreadnought are available to download now from the Forge World website, and this kit and its weapon arms are available to pre-order now for despatch in the week commencing 25th July.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/CONTEMPTOR_PATTERN_DREADNOUGHT_BODY.html

Carcharodons Transfer Sheet
Packed with well over 500 individual transfers, the Carcharodons Transfer Sheet is a hotly-anticipated addition to Forge World’s range of A4 transfer sheets. Kenton Mills has crammed onto it Chapter badges sized for both infantry and vehicles, heraldic blazons, Void Maw devices and a wide range of different sigils and devices that denote an individual Carcharodon warrior’s record of carnage across the stars, albeit in a manner that ensures his deeds may only be read by another Astartes of this ill-famed and sinister Chapter.

The Carcharodons Transfer Sheet is available to order now for immediate despatch

New Dreadnought? Must have! My Deathwing will thank me.

I can't decide if I like that dread or not.. really like the rules for it though.

I loves it.... this is pretty big news!

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what the Dreadknight should have looked like.

Truly Epic thanks FW

woo, legs that look functional, and taken from a anime mech, but its ok

but seriously, thats a damn cool dread

Kanluwen wrote:
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what the Dreadknight should have looked like.

I can agree with that.

In fact, I'll go as far as suggesting that I'll be disappointed if I don't see some Grey Knight armies with one doing the ole 'counts as' shuffle within the year.

Verrrrrrry cool. And 30 dabloons, not too bad value.

Arms sold seperately :(

Kanluwen wrote:
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what the Dreadknight should have looked like.

That is what I plan to do with it Kan.

It should make an epic Dreadknight

Retro space marines are all very well . . . does anyone know when IA 11 is actually coming out? I couldn't find any info on their website.

Ha love the way they censored some of its weapon options under the rules section.

Ratius wrote:Verrrrrrry cool. And 30 dabloons, not too bad value.

Doesn't include arms, and looks almost like standard Dreadnought arms won't fit on it. 7.50 GBP per arm.

The CCW arm looks like it is set up, however, so that it can have the fist 'rotated' with very little work to create a Furioso.


Kind of like that...


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I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly wrote:Retro space marines are all very well . . . does anyone know when IA 11 is actually coming out? I couldn't find any info on their website.

IA11 is supposedly coming out end of July/mid August. Somewhere in there.

Agreed, Kan.

I'm liking the invulnerable saves this thing gets.

The Dread looks cool. I think it would have a neat application as an Ork model as well. It would require some some cutting and calories burnt, but seeing a warboss stomping around in this thing would be fun.

How are the rules? The rules link isn't loading a page for me.

Still at £45 for a model that would get a lot of use, and looks awesome to boot.

Not that bad all things considered.

DarkTraveler777 wrote:
How are the rules? The rules link isn't loading a page for me.

Excellent, in my opinion. This Link isn't working for you?

DarkTraveler777 wrote:
How are the rules? The rules link isn't loading a page for me.

The rules aren't too bad. It's restricted in what it can have for weaponry, with several things crossed off as 'Forbidden'.

Also, Chaos players...rejoice!

Forge World Experimental Rules wrote:A Space Marine Contemptor Dreadnought is an Elites Choice in
a Codex Space Marine, Codex Dark Angels, Codex Space Wolves,
Codex Blood Angels or Codex Black Templars army. Until a
specific variant of this unit is featured in a forthcoming book, the
Contemptor as listed here may also be used in a Codex Chaos Space
Marines army.

Italics for emphasis.

The rules are lovely some blurred out options which I like, although I did have to download the new version of Acrobat so you might want to give that a go DarkTraveller

Kanluwen wrote:The CCW arm looks like it is set up, however, so that it can have the fist 'rotated' with very little work to create a Furioso..

1. It mentions that in the description in the first post.

2. It's already allowed 2 DCCWs, why would it need to proxy a Furioso?

For everyone looking to make a Dreadknight out of it, it's a bit short.

Platuan4th wrote:
For everyone looking to make a Dreadknight out of it, it's a bit short.

Pft. Maybe the Dreadknight is too tall!

Kanluwen wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:
For everyone looking to make a Dreadknight out of it, it's a bit short.

Pft. Maybe the Dreadknight is too tall!

That's what Hirst Arts Blocks are for. Build up the base until the height is right.

The link is working now. Thanks! For whatever reason when I clicked the link in my FW e-mail the page went nowhere.

Pretty neat that the Dread can be used by Chaos.

I'd actually turn it into a hth assault rig.

Immune to str4 or less in combat.
6+ save in hth.
Add an extra CCW arm. Thats 4 attacks on the charge, WS5, str7, no armor save due to walker.
Upgrade the SBs to HFs and sweep away.
Also has fleet so can close much faster then a regular Dread.
Tasty.

Platuan4th wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:The CCW arm looks like it is set up, however, so that it can have the fist 'rotated' with very little work to create a Furioso..

1. It mentions that in the description in the first post.

2. It's already allowed 2 DCCWs, why would it need to proxy a Furioso?

For everyone looking to make a Dreadknight out of it, it's a bit short.

I think he means 'so Blood Angels players can use it as a Furioso'... I like the blanked out bits in the rules pdf

Me likey!!

johnnyrumour wrote:... I like the blanked out bits in the rules pdf

I was wondering about those too.

Especially with regards to what else it might be allowed other than extra armour and a searchlight... ? Or more pertinently why we wouldn't be allowed to know this yet ? Wonder what they're cooking up.

Oh hells yes. This is exactly what the Dreadnought should look like. It seems to be articulated in a way which would allow it to, you know, move and stuff.

Also, Dreadknight ahoy!

Nice model. Looks like a marine in an Exosuit rather than the box on legs that looks like it shouldn't walk! So that's the contemptor, wonder if we'll see the Deredeo and Furibundus (Fury, Chuck and Eddy!) class return.

Liking the reference to the Legio Cybernetica - a cryptic reference to the return of the said division for the Adeptus Mechanicus. Maybe there are plans afoot to re-do the old 40k robots? Oh and please hurry up and get the Sons of Medusa a transfer sheet!

Hm time to get a few of these because I obviously need more blood angel models

What timing - just when I needed mechanical legs.

Ratius wrote:I'd actually turn it into a hth assault rig.

Immune to str4 or less in combat.
6+ save in hth.
Add an extra CCW arm. Thats 4 attacks on the charge, WS5, str7, no armor save due to walker.
Upgrade the SBs to HFs and sweep away.
Also has fleet so can close much faster then a regular Dread.
Tasty.

It would be immune to Str 6 or less in combat seeing as it is AV 13 on the front.
Plus S10 from Dreadnought Close combat weapons

Makes it a brute really.

reds8n wrote:

johnnyrumour wrote:... I like the blanked out bits in the rules pdf

I was wondering about those too.

Especially with regards to what else it might be allowed other than extra armour and a searchlight... ? Or more pertinently why we wouldn't be allowed to know this yet ? Wonder what they're cooking up.

Well the little boxout mentions specific CSM rules in a future book so maybe the 'final' version will feature these as visible options.

"A Space Marine Contemptor Dreadnought is an Elites Choice in a Codex Space Marine, Codex Dark Angels, Codex Space Wolves, Codex Blood Angels or Codex Black Templars army. Until a specific variant of this unit is featured in a forthcoming book, the Contemptor as listed here may also be used in a Codex Chaos Space Marines army."

Hmmmm.

Anyway, I hope some random Mechanicus explorator team uncovers the STC for those and we'll ditch the horrid walking boxes altogether.

wow, looks really great. Puts the regular model to shame. But I dunno why it needs it's own rules, just use it as a regular one if it has the same weapon options...

Kanluwen wrote:
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what the Dreadknight should have looked like.

SMEXY!

For those of you too young to remember this is what the Epic Space Marine dreads looked like back in the day, it was a bridge between the fugly RT dreads and the fugly angry washing machines we have today.

I love it.

I actually find myself wondering if $75 is really that much money.

It would be immune to Str 6 or less in combat seeing as it is AV 13 on the front.
Plus S10 from Dreadnought Close combat weapons

Makes it a brute really.

Very true!

It is interesting to see GW and FW, with all this "pre-heresy" stuff, is re-writting not only the fictional history, piece but also masking it's true history.

I remember the REALLY old GW dread and it looked nothing like this so this has me wondering what model is this a modern interpretation of?

Oh fething... Guess who just got 3 mk.IV dreads for a pre-heresy army...

Ohwell. Guess im going to be rather dreadheavy like this ^^

Anyway, now on to the mk.iii and mk.iv assault squads and maybe some ph termies? That would be sweet!

Holy gak, I actually want one of those.

SHUT UP AN TAKE MY MONEY, FORGEWORLD!

Only last week was I thinking how much I hate those angry walking washing machines and then FW gives us a blast from the past with an incredible looking dred.

By the look of it, it is completley poseable, legs and all! Liking the nod towards termie armour above the head, subtle but effective.

Honestly there is nothing bad about this model at all with the tiny exception of the 'fins' on the lascannons, and a quick snip will deal with them!

Cain

Quick! Someone buy one and put those legs on a standard dread body. I want to see if it makes the current dread look any better.

Can has for Chaos Please...

Oh wait, I can!

Joy. I'm using this in like every game from now on!

Right, just bought one and I'm wondering if I should have bought two...

That doesn't happen often, you know.

Dang, there goes my wallet again. Damn you forgeworld! You continue to take my money, now I must wait till it gets here.

nice looking dread, also like the bit of Chaos teaser info!

forbidden options will prob be for the chaos variant!

Oh, I like that Dreadnought.

ceorron wrote:It is interesting to see GW and FW, with all this "pre-heresy" stuff, is re-writting not only the fictional history, piece but also masking it's true history.

I remember the REALLY old GW dread and it looked nothing like this so this has me wondering what model is this a modern interpretation of?

Perhaps if the modelling technology and resources were available back then it WOULD Look like this. Gotta remember that the models from that era were awful because the technology was primitive

I gotta say, i don't normally get to excited about FW stuff. But..... lately, they have be putting out some great looking pieces. Particularly in the SM parts, this is by far and large my utmost favourite. But £45. not sure.

ceorron wrote:
I remember the REALLY old GW dread and it looked nothing like this so this has me wondering what model is this a modern interpretation of?

As Kyoto said, they're reminiscent of the old Epic models, but are also lifted straight from the Visions of Heresy artbook and Horus Heresy card game.

They're almost scarily accurate to that art.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
For those of you too young to remember this is what the Epic Space Marine dreads looked like back in the day, it was a bridge between the fugly RT dreads and the fugly angry washing machines we have today.

I love it.

Thanks Kid_Kyoto for clearing that up for me. I remember the RT dread but not the original Epic Space Marine dread, must be that that was the real inspiration.

Cheers

Edit : Thanks Platuan4th as well!


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http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/4499/dsc02075uz3.jpg

I can't believe you guys are liking that. I love Dreads but this looks like a fat little Gundam to me.

yeah, this may make my wish list rather quick.

Wow, and I had just concluded I didn't need any more FW models. I even bitzed up a version of this guy not too long ago, if I had known they were really making one I'd have saved myself the trouble. Yup, definately picking him up!

ceorron wrote:[
Thanks Kid_Kyoto for clearing that up for me. I remember the RT dread but not the original Epic Space Marine dread, must be that that was the real inspiration.

Here's a picture of the plastic Epic dreadnought:
http://www.galactic-intrigue.com/epicollector/Pages/2-Catalog/SpaceMarine-Catalog/Marines-Photos/NoughtsBots-PlasticDreadnought.jpg

Likes.

Looks much like the ones from the Sabretooth CCG.

I can imagine this walking about more than the current Dreadnoughts.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:fugly RT dreads.

I liked the Furibundus one but the others looked a bit lanky.

Here's the old Epic dreads

http://zachary.org/games/gw/epic10.jpg

OMG it can actually walk properly.

I am going to get some when the IA rules come out!


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Hits_the_spot wrote:I gotta say, i don't normally get to excited about FW stuff. But..... lately, they have be putting out some great looking pieces. Particularly in the SM parts, this is by far and large my utmost favourite. But £45. not sure.

Including shipping its cheaper than Aussie retail.

Even though my cup runeth over with GW hate since April, I have to admit that dreadnought looks really cool and goes with their recent marine pre-heresy trend.

Oh my sweet messiah.

Sign me up for a minimum of 3.



aaaaaaaaaand there's a chaos one on the way!

Somebody catch me, I think i'm going to faint...

Somebody took the Tactical out of Tactical dreadnought Armour.



Just enough of a nod to the curvy RT era dreads as well as a link to termies.

Finally! A dreadnought that can play Football! My prayers are answered!!

Let the squig-punting begin!

...All he needs now is a tie and briefcase!

p.s. Are those Nikes?

Best...

Dreadnought...

Ever...

Cough cough, gundam legs, cough cough.

Looks okay. I'd like to see a chaos version. It's possible that we might get something like this as our 'venerable'.

Kanluwen wrote:
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what the Dreadknight should have looked like.

now THAT is a dreadknight I would buy, not a grey knight, on a grey knight.

Cypher's Sword wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what the Dreadknight should have looked like.

now THAT is a dreadknight I would buy, not a grey knight, on a grey knight.

Platuan4th wrote:

Well played, sir.

Good to see they made finally made models of these guys:

I just hope they do some chapter specific ones. Also, I'm wondering if one of the "forbidden" weapons will be the twin-linked assault cannon, these have been depicted with?

Very impressed. It's the Epic Marine Dread. Never thought I'd see that design again. Nice.

I want one it is so awesome. And its not GW but forgeworld the place that actually cares about their stuff ^.^

Well this has officially become my first Forgeworld Pre-order.

Platuan4th wrote:New Dreadnought? Must have! My Deathwing will thank me.

How many does that make now?

Ozymandias wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:New Dreadnought? Must have! My Deathwing will thank me.

How many does that make now?

6 DA Dreads
9 BA Dreads
1 Kitsune Guard Dread
1 GK Dread
1 TS Dread
1 RT era Dread for my Anarchist Legion

I like Dreads, ok?

So nice. Must have for my DA. Wait Platuan4th already went there.

I want to see the other weapon options. I want to make mine a hellfire!!

Well, time to get the dust off of my old BA army...


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Wait, I can make this thing into a firebat... Alright FW, time to take my money.

Good to see that FW can still make some good things!

Dont see how its too anime inspired, the legs look like really heavy industrial legs that would be from battletech or something

Also a dreadnought worth using for chaos (as of now)? Do want!

I'm not really fond of it actually, as some said it looks a bit fat...

Reminds me of the Urbanmech from the Mechwarrior universe...

But one thing I LOVE is how the stormbolter is included within the palm of the DCCW : that's EPIC!!!

I had just promised myself "no more Marine models; they're getting boring" and now this brute comes along. Goddammit. There goes my EngChem textbook money.

Oh my Emperor! That looks GORGEOUS! I have way too much on my hobby plate but in the near future....it will be mine!

I like that they are doing something different but it reminds me of Buzz Lightyear. The red one is ok but I prefer the current ones event if they are totally impractical.

Edit: I think it can be sorted by swapping the legs and arms of this biggun' and combining it with the sarcophagus of the venerables.

I want measurements. It looks fairly close to me in height by the comparison to the Dreadnoughts...I want!

I think the model itself is awesome. Looking forward to seeing the Dreadknight conversions this spawns as well.

I am not in love with the rules, however.

I feel that Dreadnoughts are already pretty hard to kill...and now this one comes along with front armor 13...and basically gets a Flickerfield as well??? Seems overpowered to me. Like a Leman Russ with a Force Field. Do not like.

Dude this is great I'm getting 4. My Pre-Heresy Wolves and World Eaters need some Dreadnought love. Thank you Forgeworld.

As it stands, the rules are a little mediocre (par for the course with FW), but the model is amazing. Another hit from FW, who have been on a roll in general lately. I just wish they'd make a resin combi-weapons kit, as this would both fill a gap in the product line and be awesome in its own right.

aka_mythos wrote:Good to see they made finally made models of these guys:

I just hope they do some chapter specific ones. Also, I'm wondering if one of the "forbidden" weapons will be the twin-linked assault cannon, these have been depicted with?

actually you'll find the weapon that dread is depicted as holding is already in the rules: it's a twin-linked autocannon. look at the ammo drums on the side, the it's a way too large caliber for an assault cannon, also the weapons seem to be one smooth barrel each. which is not very assault-cannon-ey

edit and just noticed, look at the support beam thingy running underneath the barrels, then look at the current dread twin-autocannon arms (have just painted 3 SETS of those, so I know what I'm talking about )

I cannot take this dread seriously it makes me giggle far too much for me to ever own one it looks more on the ridiculous anime ghost in the shell mech side then a war torn depressive era machine, why is there more anime esk things in warhammer now, like the chibi hawk. anyway just my opinion (:

My Wanderers have access to all weapons. I want this and i shall paint in there colors

Fetterkey wrote:As it stands, the rules are a little mediocre (par for the course with FW), but the model is amazing. Another hit from FW, who have been on a roll in general lately. I just wish they'd make a resin combi-weapons kit, as this would both fill a gap in the product line and be awesome in its own right.

An armor 13 dread with venerable stats and fleet as well as a 5+ invul for shooting is meh? FW doesn't have to come up with experimental broken rules like for the Achilles every time. Just giving vanilla marines an ironclad dread armor chassis with standard dread shooty weapons options and Death Company Dread movement (via fleet) and Space Wolf Bjorn-esque force field is plenty.

First of all I don't like it much - it looks too much like anime mecha. I don't like the space marine helmet head. That said I hope it grows on me 'cos I like the stats. Fellow Chaos warriors everywhere - can I assume this dread - which I can use in my CSM army - doesn't have the 'Crazed' rule? If so I'm getting some! (Too many times have my dreadnoughts blasted the odd squad of CSM's away with a plasma cannon). I assume also as this is the 'Contemptor' we can look forward to the 'Furibundus' and 'Deredo' versions later on? For all you kids out there (post Rogue Trader) I attach a pic of the original trio (yes I know the paint jobs are rubbish, but I did them years ago when I was a nipper).

Love it!

Although the Nitpick in me says I'll have to scrape off the Aquila if it is going to be Pre-Heresy/Crusade Era Dreadnought 'counts-as'.

I'll be picking up two... eventually!

It couldn't be possible that Forge world is feeling pressure from third party casters is it? Personally this could be seen as a pre-emptive strike to take money out of others hands. And I still like the alternative designs better. The legs on this one seem really out of place.

ugh >< now i need to find a way to get the money, for 2-4 of these bad boys...for that awesomeness $75 is a tad much, but I want them badly! darn there goes my way of getting a used WOC army. now to add up how much I can save, and hope this stuff arrives before I have to leave for the states.

Garuss Acine wrote:ugh >< now i need to find a way to get the money, for 2-4 of these bad boys...for that awesomeness $75 is a tad much, but I want them badly! darn there goes my way of getting a used WOC army. now to add up how much I can save, and hope this stuff arrives before I have to leave for the states.

I'm just glad I live in good old Blighty - £45 sound alot better than $75! (I know it's all the same - but phsycologically you know what I mean)

Well played, GW, well played.

Nostalgia works very well on me, and you almost made me consider spending money on you.

Good thing I still have my old RT-era Dreadnoughts.

Now...if you redo some of these RT-era Terminators...well...I never got enough of those...
linky:http://carminethewolf.deviantart.com/art/SOTA-Rogue-Trader-Terminator-1-188315769?offset=10

Alpharius wrote:Love it!

Although the Nitpick in me says I'll have to scrape off the Aquila if it is going to be Pre-Heresy/Crusade Era Dreadnought 'counts-as'.

I'll be picking up two... eventually!

I'm hoping that, like the purity seals, they are optional extra's.

Is it bad if the rules excite me more for Chaos than the idea of buying another model?

pombe wrote:Well played, GW, well played.

Nostalgia works very well on me, and you almost made me consider spending money on you.

Good thing I still have my old RT-era Dreadnoughts.

Now...if you redo some of these RT-era Terminators...well...I never got enough of those...
linky:http://carminethewolf.deviantart.com/art/SOTA-Rogue-Trader-Terminator-1-188315769?offset=10

Now you're talking! I used to have one of those (I sadly gave it to a mate who consequently had all his Warhammer stuff nicked) - but you rarely see them with the banner pole that went on the back. Rare as hens teeth now.

alphaomega wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what the Dreadknight should have looked like.

That is what I plan to do with it Kan.

It should make an epic Dreadknight

Likewise. I am so very happy now.

Medium of Death wrote:

Alpharius wrote:Love it!

Although the Nitpick in me says I'll have to scrape off the Aquila if it is going to be Pre-Heresy/Crusade Era Dreadnought 'counts-as'.

I'll be picking up two... eventually!

I'm hoping that, like the purity seals, they are optional extra's.

Good catch - it looks like you're right!

No scraping required - even more reason to purchase two now!

Alpharius wrote:

Medium of Death wrote:

Alpharius wrote:Love it!

Although the Nitpick in me says I'll have to scrape off the Aquila if it is going to be Pre-Heresy/Crusade Era Dreadnought 'counts-as'.

I'll be picking up two... eventually!

I'm hoping that, like the purity seals, they are optional extra's.

Good catch - it looks like you're right!

No scraping required - even more reason to purchase two now!

Wait, there's more reason needed to purchase more than one? I'm thinking like 4(2 for my DW, 2 for Chaos).

Kanluwen wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:
For everyone looking to make a Dreadknight out of it, it's a bit short.

Pft. Maybe the Dreadknight is too tall!

QFT. I wanted the dreadknight to be a suit of armor a step above terminator armour, what I got was a bad mix of Aliens and 40k. Here comes FW to answer my hopes and dreams.

Now we're one model closer to pre heresy terminators. Now I'm dedicated to waiting atleast until IA 11 before I decide to just convert my own.

I've been trying to get taller dreads for years now, http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/292137.page about halfway down has one of my better attempts, lord knows I need to post my better looking successes.

Anyways I am definely buying several of these, one to convert to a chaplain, 2 into siege and one into an ironclad for several FW forces and one possibly apoc force

FW ain't no dummies - Pre-Heresy sells.

I'm actually frightened over how many Pre-Heresy Terminators they'll soon be forcing me to purchase...

Also, while these will be for my True Scale Alpha legion force (especially as FW was so kind as to make them bigger than standard Dreadnoughts!), I've already got a nice Raven Guard Pre-Heresy Dread courtesy of our very own insaniak!

Pre-Heresy Dreadnought - Insaniak Pattern!

carabine wrote:QFT. I wanted the dreadknight to be a suit of armor a step above terminator armour, what I got was a bad mix of Aliens and 40k. Here comes FW to answer my hopes and dreams.

What was got was Matrix 3, and while that was one of the best scenes in the movie, did not stop it from being the crap-pile that it was. I agree, though, that this is an awesome Dreadknight proxy. I wonder how difficult it would be to use the DK arms on this bad boy...

MajorTom11 wrote:I loves it.... this is pretty big news!

Agreed. The proportions are finally right. Looks like Im gonna have to get one...or more.

alphaomega wrote:A true relic of the hallowed days of the Great Crusade, and of the heights of technological achievement once reached by the Imperium of Mankind, the Contemptor Pattern Dreadnought was a mainstay of the armoured might of the Astartes Legions of old. Larger and stronger than standard pattern Dreadnoughts, the Contemptor’s systems featured many examples of techno-arcana steeped in the sacred mysteries of the Legio Cybernetica.
Due to their spearhead assault role in the epic battles of the Great Crusade, losses were high amongst these potent war machines, and in the shadowed aftermath of the Heresy the ability to produce or maintain the Contemptor was all but lost. However, some Chapters still boast these war-relics amongst their ranks, and whenever the Contemptor takes to the field of battle it is an echo of the power of ancient days.

The Contemptor Pattern Dreadnought, designed by Will Hayes, is a detailed full resin kit that allows any Space Marine (or Chaos Space Marine) army to field one of these ancient war machines. Will has also designed two unique weapon options: a Contemptor Pattern Lascannon Arm and a Contemptor Pattern Close Combat Arm (Fist). These two weapons can be used on either side of the Dreadnought body, which is itself a fully poseable miniature.
Experimental rules for this storied and ancient Dreadnought are available to download now from the Forge World website, and this kit and its weapon arms are available to pre-order now for despatch in the week commencing 25th July.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/CONTEMPTOR_PATTERN_DREADNOUGHT_BODY.html

Carcharodons Transfer Sheet
Packed with well over 500 individual transfers, the Carcharodons Transfer Sheet is a hotly-anticipated addition to Forge World’s range of A4 transfer sheets. Kenton Mills has crammed onto it Chapter badges sized for both infantry and vehicles, heraldic blazons, Void Maw devices and a wide range of different sigils and devices that denote an individual Carcharodon warrior’s record of carnage across the stars, albeit in a manner that ensures his deeds may only be read by another Astartes of this ill-famed and sinister Chapter.

The Carcharodons Transfer Sheet is available to order now for immediate despatch

Finally a dreadnougth with appropriately sized legs. The legs would also go well with more traditional dreanought torsos.

Excellent maneuver FW. You have successfully prompted me into buying some of your product. Expect me to buy at least 4.

Yes. Yes, I will be getting one of those, thank you.

Not gonna lie... I like the look of the Angry Washing Machine Dreads.

But I guess having something that looks even cooler is nice too.

Yggdrasil wrote:I'm not really fond of it actually, as some said it looks a bit fat...

Reminds me of the Urbanmech from the Mechwarrior universe...

But one thing I LOVE is how the stormbolter is included within the palm of the DCCW : that's EPIC!!!

How the hell does it look less like an Urbanmech then the basic dreadnaught?

Fetterkey wrote:As it stands, the rules are a little mediocre (par for the course with FW), but the model is amazing. Another hit from FW, who have been on a roll in general lately. I just wish they'd make a resin combi-weapons kit, as this would both fill a gap in the product line and be awesome in its own right.

The rules seem ok to me. It's got the armor of an iron clad and the ability to ignore lethal hits like the venerable while having good ranged or close weapon options. Fleet gives it superior ability to close then its competition as well. It's cost ends up similar to a high end venerable, and those aren't too bad for the package you're getting.

First of all I don't like it much - it looks too much like anime mecha. I don't like the space marine helmet head.

This thing isn't anime at all.


I'll be getting one!

I'm not entirely sold on the lascannon arms... looks awkward. And the legs don't quite match the design of the rest of the body.

But overall, I love it. A little more graceful than the one I made...

insaniak wrote:I'm not entirely sold on the lascannon arms... looks awkward. And the legs don't quite match the design of the rest of the body.

But overall, I love it. A little more graceful than the one I made...

They match the torso and arms quite well, the boxy rounded armor areas are pretty similar, as are the gears. The dreadnaught boxy shoulderpads throw it off a bit, but I think it's a nice touch.

Reminds me of Gundam Mobile Suit Z'Gok:

Yeah, not getting the claims that this is anime. Then again, if half of the things people on this board have called anime actually were anime then pretty much everything in existence was keyframed in an Osaka studio.

It's really a great model in a lot of ways. It shows the designers actually thought about the design before they sat down and started tacking on skullz. It really looks like a product of the same culture, but from an earlier time. I like it.

Kroothawk wrote:Reminds me of Gundam Mobile Suit Z'Gok:

Anal retention time:

That's a Z'gok E, not a Z'gok.

This is a Z'gok:

Double thumbs up...like the model and the rules.

ThomasPolder wrote:
actually you'll find the weapon that dread is depicted as holding is already in the rules: it's a twin-linked autocannon. look at the ammo drums on the side, the it's a way too large caliber for an assault cannon, also the weapons seem to be one smooth barrel each. which is not very assault-cannon-ey

That wasn't the artwork that shows it with a twin-linked assault cannon. Its a different one.

Finally the whole "Tactical Dreadnought Armour" thing makes sense!

I've never understood why they call Terminator armour that, because other than being as tough as nails they look nothing like dreadnoughts. But now they do. Or did. Or something.

Tense's are difficult when you're talking about a new imagining of a past to a future that was imagined in our past...

monkeyh wrote:
I'm just glad I live in good old Blighty - £45 sound alot better than $75! (I know it's all the same - but phsycologically you know what I mean)

Yeah I hear that...sadly keeps me from ordering many things from England. I see the price and think "hey thats not bad", then realize "dammit thats pounds not dollars", which leads to "that means double the listed price, no thanks". Some things are worth it (like this new dread) but sadly many just arent.

Have to agree with Jadenim here. Really am tempted by this guy. Oh and looking at it am I the only one getting a bit of a Cygnar Warjack vibe from it?

Jadenim wrote:I've never understood why they call Terminator armour that, because other than being as tough as nails they look nothing like dreadnoughts. But now they do. Or did. Or something.

I believe it's simply down to them originally being designed essentially as 'mini-dreadnoughts' for close-in fighting where regular Dreadnoughts wouldn't fit.

I really want to see a chaos interpretation of this guy done.

warboss wrote:

Fetterkey wrote:As it stands, the rules are a little mediocre (par for the course with FW), but the model is amazing. Another hit from FW, who have been on a roll in general lately. I just wish they'd make a resin combi-weapons kit, as this would both fill a gap in the product line and be awesome in its own right.

An armor 13 dread with venerable stats and fleet as well as a 5+ invul for shooting is meh? FW doesn't have to come up with experimental broken rules like for the Achilles every time. Just giving vanilla marines an ironclad dread armor chassis with standard dread shooty weapons options and Death Company Dread movement (via fleet) and Space Wolf Bjorn-esque force field is plenty.

Yeah, but it's priced high enough to make up for it, especially since you don't get Extra Armor. I love Dreadnoughts as much as the next guy (I have 8, including 3 Forge World Ironclads), but I definitely don't think I would field one of these.

That looks like the old epic scale dread.

That was already pointed out... along with a pic.

insaniak wrote:That was already pointed out... along with a pic.

Like 3 times, at that...

Mad4Minis wrote:

monkeyh wrote:
I'm just glad I live in good old Blighty - £45 sound alot better than $75! (I know it's all the same - but phsycologically you know what I mean)

Yeah I hear that...sadly keeps me from ordering many things from England. I see the price and think "hey thats not bad", then realize "dammit thats pounds not dollars", which leads to "that means double the listed price, no thanks". Some things are worth it (like this new dread) but sadly many just arent.

Exactly....why does the American dollar have to suck so much, there are so many FW models I want that the cost of shipping alone would be more than the model. I wish GW could establish a FW supplyer in the US.

Edit: Reading fail

Also edit: never mind then

Platuan4th wrote:

insaniak wrote:That was already pointed out... along with a pic.

Like 3 times, at that...

Not with epic scale marines for size. Holy crap with arms that thing is $75 before shipping!

I think it lacks a little detail, i am dissapointed in the lack of gubbins on it.

Imperial tech has never been so sexy.

Spartan089 wrote:Exactly....why does the American dollar have to suck so much, there are so many FW models I want that the cost of shipping alone would be more than the model. I wish GW could establish a FW supplyer in the US.

Even if they did that doesn't mean they would be any cheaper. If anything I'd expect a price hike for the "added convenience".

Lovely looking model; really great. Almost as good looking as the standard dread for me.

More importantly however, I'm left wondering about the Chaos rules and what that suggests?
A - Chaos Model & Rules
B - Chaos featured in IA book
C - Chaos Codex - surely not!

Just Dave wrote:Lovely looking model; really great. Almost as good looking as the standard dread for me.

More importantly however, I'm left wondering about the Chaos rules and what that suggests?
A - Chaos Model & Rules
B - Chaos featured in IA book
C - Chaos Codex - surely not!

FW has already said that they're planning another Chaos IA set for Tzeentch and Slaanesh.

If those DCCW arms are available separately, I can see converters using them on normal Dreads to make Furiosos.

The height (looks about 1cm taller than a standard Dread, judging by the FW photo) seems an odd choice, as surely many players would like to use one to count-as a standard Dread, but doing so will lead to shrill nerd-rage LoS arguments, especially during tournies. Using one to count-as a DreadKnight seems simpler - as a previous poster pointed out, stick it on a scenic base that brings it up to DK height.

Breotan wrote:Quick! Someone buy one and put those legs on a standard dread body. I want to see if it makes the current dread look any better.

This! I actually like the boxy washing machine look (as long as its one of the designs that has the little marine head cutout like this one does), but I hate the legs. I'm thinkin a combo of the two would look great!

Clang wrote:If those DCCW arms are available separately,

They are. It's just like FW's other Dreads: buy a body and at least 2 arms as 3 separate items.

I wonder if the new choas dread will also harken back to the old days too?

Andrew1975 wrote:I wonder if the new choas dread will also harken back to the old days too?

Gods, I hope so.

I just wish GW would do more to distinguish chaos... that would be a good thing.

*rubbing his trousers in early 90's glee at a long awaited mid 90's Epic design made real in 40k scale*

Now all that FW needs to do is make some of the turtle-backed MKI. terminators. Then the pre-heresy possibilities would be endless...

I always liked that old chaos dread, but space crusade never really sold in America so i couldn't get one. Ive looked them up on ebay and thought the prices were obscene, but they are a lot cheaper than forge world.

Clang wrote:The height (looks about 1cm taller than a standard Dread, judging by the FW photo) seems an odd choice, as surely many players would like to use one to count-as a standard Dread, but doing so will lead to shrill nerd-rage LoS arguments, especially during tournies.

Going by the comparison picture they have up, while the top of the torso looks to be significantly taller than a regular Dreadnought, there's really very little difference in the height of the weapons.

And since LOS is taken from the weapons instead of the torso, using one of these in place of a regular dreadnought benefits your opponent, since it will be easier to draw LOS to the model, with much less improvement to LOS from it.

insaniak wrote:That was already pointed out... along with a pic.

In all fairness, the second pic makes it much easier to see what's going on.

And, oooohhh man, if they come out with that Chaos dread, I'm on that like misalignment on Finecast. I am such a sucker for chicken-legged mechs. I can't explain it, but always have been - Marauder IIc, Catapult, Vulture, Uziel, Mad Cat, all of them. I'd have to get whatever special character allows more Dreads.

insaniak wrote:

Jadenim wrote:I've never understood why they call Terminator armour that, because other than being as tough as nails they look nothing like dreadnoughts. But now they do. Or did. Or something.

I believe it's simply down to them originally being designed essentially as 'mini-dreadnoughts' for close-in fighting where regular Dreadnoughts wouldn't fit.

Terminator armor was designed during the dark age of tech as reactor repair/space suits. It had no combat applications until the emperor retrofitted them much later to be heavy armor for spaceship boarding actions. Most ancient supertech in the imperium is toaster level stuff from when humanity was dominating known space and blowing out stars when they were in the way.

Platuan4th wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:Reminds me of Gundam Mobile Suit Z'Gok:

Anal retention time:

That's a Z'gok E, not a Z'gok.

This is a Z'gok:

Hah, good show old boy, too bad I wasn't around to catch that before you did.

insaniak wrote:

Jadenim wrote:I've never understood why they call Terminator armour that, because other than being as tough as nails they look nothing like dreadnoughts. But now they do. Or did. Or something.

I believe it's simply down to them originally being designed essentially as 'mini-dreadnoughts' for close-in fighting where regular Dreadnoughts wouldn't fit.

I think he meant aestheticaly. Terminators of any design look nothing like current dreadnoughts. However this new design does have certain visual links to terminators both classic and modern.

Platuan4th wrote:

Just Dave wrote:Lovely looking model; really great. Almost as good looking as the standard dread for me.

More importantly however, I'm left wondering about the Chaos rules and what that suggests?
A - Chaos Model & Rules
B - Chaos featured in IA book
C - Chaos Codex - surely not!

FW has already said that they're planning another Chaos IA set for Tzeentch and Slaanesh.

I wish it was hinting at a new codex, for tournaments chaos players are stuck with some crazy team killing nutjob in a box for a dreadnought.

I guess i might be the first one to say it, i the torso looks just like the one on the Fulgim horus heresy book cover

ShumaGorath wrote:...It had no combat applications until the emperor retrofitted them much later to be heavy armor for spaceship boarding actions.

...which would have been when it was labelled as 'Tactical Dreadnought Armour'...

carabine wrote:I think he meant aestheticaly. Terminators of any design look nothing like current dreadnoughts. However this new design does have certain visual links to terminators both classic and modern.

The aesthetics have little to do with the name. Although there was a mention somewhere that Terminator armour incorporates some armour plating from Dreadnoughts, which is another link.

It's also possibly worth pointing out that the original Dreadnoughts weren't permanent coffins... they were just a big battlesuit, that the driver could get into and out of. Essentially, just bigger Terminators, if somewhat differently designed.


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Cyvash wrote:I guess i might be the first one to say it, i the torso looks just like the one on the Fulgim horus heresy book cover

The Dreadnought on that book is the same style as is used throughout the Horus Heresy artwork. So yes, that link has already been mentioned...

Haha, love those Space crusade dreads, they aren't hard to find via eBay, didn't they come in two sizes, dreadnought and jumbo-dreanought? (not counting the epic ones).
Yeah, not sure about calling it completely anime inspired, if so, anime from the early 90's and farther back, maybe Gigantor, or the first Gundam as some have pointed out. Actually, if I recall correctly, the Epic box set that this dread came with also included those space marine bikes that people have said look like the bike from Akira, so possibly older anime, which in my opinion is not a bad thing.

Not sure it came with the Bikes.

But yeah, said bikes were a tad Akiraesque. But the Guard ones? Straight out of Judge Dredd.

Oh man! I must have one of these for my templars, twin dread CCW! I just wish it could be put into a drop pod.

Platuan4th wrote:FW has already said that they're planning another Chaos IA set for Tzeentch and Slaanesh.

Cracking. Thanks boss.

Ouze wrote:And, oooohhh man, if they come out with that Chaos dread, I'm on that like misalignment on Finecast.

*applauds*

@Mr Mystery
Double checked on that, they were not on the same sprue, but they were released at the same time c 1990-1991. The bike was in a box labeled Epic Space Marines, and the dread that FW just brought back to life in 40k scale was in the box set called Epic Stompers!

http://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/31727/games-workshop-epic-system-6mm-games-in-the-warham

Just Dave wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:FW has already said that they're planning another Chaos IA set for Tzeentch and Slaanesh.

Cracking. Thanks boss.

No doubt!

A Tzeentch and Slaanesh IA and models from FW?

Can't wait to see them... along with more Pre-Heresy stuff!

Hi guys, yes I was talking aesthetically, although I get that the history of the names (and designs) is long and convoluted, both in the history of the game and the narrative.

insaniak wrote:It's also possibly worth pointing out that the original Dreadnoughts weren't permanent coffins... they were just a big battlesuit, that the driver could get into and out of. Essentially, just bigger Terminators, if somewhat differently designed.

Does this mean that Forgeworld are going to imply that maybe this dreadnought isn't actually a walking sarcophagus? Otherwise they're going to have to invent a bunch of 10,000+ year old heroes to pilot them. Having it as a suit would fit nicely with using it as a dreadknight too...

Dreadnoughts aren't necessarily continually piloted by one person. They aren't "made to order", the chassis is salvaged whenever possible and reused.

Sarcophagi and the pilots are stored until needed, usually in some form of suspended animation, which is why the Loyalist Dreadnoughts aren't madmen.

Fair point.

The xenos should be scared, it looks like this dreadnought can kick.

Llamahead wrote:Have to agree with Jadenim here. Really am tempted by this guy. Oh and looking at it am I the only one getting a bit of a Cygnar Warjack vibe from it?

If it does PP got it from GW this Dreadnought have been around for some time. At lest from 2007, it is in the book "The Horus Heresy Collected Visions" it an art book about the Horus Heresy. I wish he look like the one on page 302 that one crazy good looking. But again this fig.

army310 wrote:

Llamahead wrote:Have to agree with Jadenim here. Really am tempted by this guy. Oh and looking at it am I the only one getting a bit of a Cygnar Warjack vibe from it?

If it does PP got it from GW this Dreadnought have been around for some time. At lest from 2007, it is in the book "The Horus Heresy Collected Visions" it an art book about the Horus Heresy. I wish he look like the one on page 302 that one crazy good looking. But again this fig.

Cygnar Warjacks designs have been around since 2001. Saying they stole a design from a 2007 book is time-traveling sorcery!

That said, this design of dread has been around since older Epic editions, just smaller and much less detailed(to an extent that there's no similarity between Jacks and it).

reds8n wrote:

johnnyrumour wrote:... I like the blanked out bits in the rules pdf

I was wondering about those too.

Especially with regards to what else it might be allowed other than extra armour and a searchlight... ? Or more pertinently why we wouldn't be allowed to know this yet ? Wonder what they're cooking up.

The "Forbidden" parts seem to be fluff, not "to be released later" or something. Sort of like whenever a fluff page in a space marine codex refers to a traitor legion, or some =][= fluff refers to chaos, they will "redact" the "forbidden" knowledge in some way...

So the real question should be: "What horribly destructive and devious weaponry did the pre-heresy Mechanicus create for these monstrous war machines that are now too horrible for even the grimdark Imperium of Man to contemplate using?"

Wow I did know that PP has been around since then. All is sorcery their guy.

didn't they come in two sizes, dreadnought and jumbo-dreanought?

Yeah there was the one form space crusade that had 2 bolters and two main weapons, then the one form mission dreadnougt had 2 bolters and 4 main weapons. Neither had any CC weapons, but it wouldn't be hard to add arms. I thought the smaller one looked much better honestly.

DeathGod wrote:

reds8n wrote:

johnnyrumour wrote:... I like the blanked out bits in the rules pdf

So the real question should be: "What horribly destructive and devious weaponry did the pre-heresy Mechanicus create for these monstrous war machines that are now too horrible for even the grimdark Imperium of Man to contemplate using?"

Or perhaps 'What horribly destructive and devious weaponry did the pre-Heresy Mechanicus create for these war machines that FW will now look at sculpting'...