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Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/10 14:27:32


Post by: BrotherTri


I get this when going to Bartertown




Information

Let's start again Monday




Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/10 15:15:57


Post by: porkuslime


We are now aware of this, and are taking a look into it. I just became aware of the problem this morning.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/10 15:33:14


Post by: warboss


I was just about to post the same thing! I guess I have time now to go take in focus pics of few more things that I was going to put up. Godspeed with the coding to get it up and running.

edit: wierd double post.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/10 15:51:40


Post by: BrotherTri


porkuslime wrote:We are now aware of this, and are taking a look into it. I just became aware of the problem this morning.


I guess I should have posted this last night 10-11pm'ish EST.

Thanks for looking into it. You Admin and Mod guys are great over there. Of course here as well, but I am real new here.



Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/10 17:01:09


Post by: porkuslime


And I come with news..

Our Site Admin sayeth that our host server company upgraded and updated their security software, and in the process, we got messed with. Working on getting it back now.

We will let you guys know when we get back online.

-p


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/10 23:38:26


Post by: gorium


Thanks for keeping us informed. Cheers.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/11 00:59:25


Post by: studderingdave


oh thank god, i thought it was only me.

thanks again


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/11 12:44:36


Post by: greenskin lynn


studderingdave wrote:oh thank god, i thought it was only me.

thanks again

same here, i was getting a touch worried


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/11 12:50:59


Post by: col. krazy kenny


Same here blank,i thought i got hacked by somebody on my network or a Virus.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/11 13:00:24


Post by: porkuslime


Nope... the problem seems to be soley on the hosting site. Adam is working on it with them.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Adam reports that he should have it done tonight. We are having php and database issues which is compounding his problems.

-P


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/12 04:57:49


Post by: zeronyne


Thanks for keeping us informed. I was getting nervous.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/12 11:09:15


Post by: BrotherTri



Looks like we are going on day 2 and I am now starting to jones.

I use to be a Web/System/Recovery Admin guy it’s could be a lot of pressure, especially when it came time to update and security patches. We tested on pre production systems before going live with any patch. So essentially we had two systems for QA, Dev and Pre Prod. I think even the Dev teams had a few systems so when we would load on Pre production boxes very little errors. That type of system work really well but costs. Rarely a security patch would really whack an OS or mess up security so bad that the quickest way to recovery was full restore with TSM. Then that even several years ago like late 90’s

Anyway my thoughts are with the Admins.





Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/12 13:24:49


Post by: Eldanar


I've been trading on B'town since the mid-90's (and absolutely love the site); but unfortunately, the site going down inexplicably for a few days, about every 6 months or so, is just one of those things that you get used to dealing with...


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/12 14:07:11


Post by: Shotgun


Actually, I think the site has had an incredibly good track record for up time. Worst I've ever run into is late in the evening it takes a bit of time to cycle to the PM box.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/12 15:43:24


Post by: dragonowar


Any word yet? I went to bartertown.com and got the "head to trading forums" link. I was nice and excited and then i went straight to a white screen again.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/12 15:44:41


Post by: porkuslime


No Luck last night. Adam reports over 100 errors in the ISP log and is going to attempt another fix tonight.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/12 16:02:08


Post by: DaemonMan


Sooner than later I hope... (oAFLORD here)

DM


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/12 17:58:06


Post by: MagickalMemories


Eldanar wrote:I've been trading on B'town since the mid-90's (and absolutely love the site); but unfortunately, the site going down inexplicably for a few days, about every 6 months or so, is just one of those things that you get used to dealing with...


Shotgun wrote:Actually, I think the site has had an incredibly good track record for up time. Worst I've ever run into is late in the evening it takes a bit of time to cycle to the PM box.


Eldanar:
Don't know what kind of issues you're referring to but, since the phpbb update (3.x??), site downtime is almost nonexistant. That's been years.
Shotgun is correct. There are occasions where your PM inbox can be a real annoyance. I've experienced that myself regularly. It does seem more prevalent in the evenings. I suspect that, too, goes beyond the site itself, as Adam has been unable to pinpoint a reason for it.

Thank you all for your patience.

Eric


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/12 20:11:33


Post by: Razzle


I just hope my trade partners don't decide this excuses them from holding up their end of the bargain


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/12 20:15:38


Post by: Nightsbane


Yeah I think the thing that bartertown hosting doesn't seem to get is that there are a lot of trades in limbo right now, and every day makes it worse. DC# in inboxes, lack of access to paypal addresses etc. I understand a couple days, but it's getting to be long and I have a chunk of money hanging in the air. The items should have been here Saturday and they aren't here yet, but I have no recourse since I have no contact information that isn't on bartertown or in my inbox!

Trying to me patient, but getting nervous...


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/12 20:21:07


Post by: Eldanar


MagickalMemories wrote:
Eldanar wrote:I've been trading on B'town since the mid-90's (and absolutely love the site); but unfortunately, the site going down inexplicably for a few days, about every 6 months or so, is just one of those things that you get used to dealing with...


Shotgun wrote:Actually, I think the site has had an incredibly good track record for up time. Worst I've ever run into is late in the evening it takes a bit of time to cycle to the PM box.


Eldanar:
Don't know what kind of issues you're referring to but, since the phpbb update (3.x??), site downtime is almost nonexistant. That's been years.
Shotgun is correct. There are occasions where your PM inbox can be a real annoyance. I've experienced that myself regularly. It does seem more prevalent in the evenings. I suspect that, too, goes beyond the site itself, as Adam has been unable to pinpoint a reason for it.

Thank you all for your patience.

Eric


It could be years, as I am not on the site on a daily or even weekly basis, usually, any more; but rather only go there when I am trying to pick something up or get rid of it. I've been there for at least two server changes, IIRC, since about 1995/6 or so. It used to be a lot worse than it is now, and I used to trade a lot more then when I was in school over 10+ years ago. Since I have been gainfully employed, I tend to spend more at my FLGS or on ebay; but it is still fun to go find a really good deal on some figs needing a little tlc.

I think most people pretty much expect these types of things to occur with any website, Dakka, Warseer, etc., included


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/12 21:21:16


Post by: warboss


Nightsbane wrote:Yeah I think the thing that bartertown hosting doesn't seem to get is that there are a lot of trades in limbo right now, and every day makes it worse. DC# in inboxes, lack of access to paypal addresses etc. I understand a couple days, but it's getting to be long and I have a chunk of money hanging in the air. The items should have been here Saturday and they aren't here yet, but I have no recourse since I have no contact information that isn't on bartertown or in my inbox!

Trying to me patient, but getting nervous...


In their defense, they provide a completely free service both in maintaining online trade reputations as well as hosting a venue where you can reach those looking to trade/sell/buy. Its only when the service goes down that you realize exactly how much of a value you're getting for nothing (same with dakka). Either way, no one will fault you for not being able to ship out your part of a trade when you can't access the info and the resolution process for paypal as well as bartertown's take on dealing with bad trades isn't affected by a few days of downtime. Sit tight... it'll be up eventually. Either way, I recommend always emailing yourself any address info (both physical and email) as well as delivery confirmation numbers when dealing with a trade so you can follow the status regardless of the status of any one website or device you use.


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Eldanar wrote:
I think most people pretty much expect these types of things to occur with any website, Dakka, Warseer, etc., included


Agreed. Warseer was down for weeks and the timing pretty much coincided with a laptop failure for me where I lost my bookmarks resulting in a double whammy of me simply forgetting about the site in general. I went there for the first time in a while ironically today and the traffic (if you can measure it in news and rumors posts) definitely seems down compared with before. Also, their trading area has gotten significantly more eurocentric (specifically UK). That's not a complaint but simply an observation; they always had alot more international trade posts there compared with B-town and Dakka but it sees like alot more now after the hack attack.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/12 21:28:06


Post by: MagickalMemories


Good info/advice from Warboss.

Razzle wrote:I just hope my trade partners don't decide this excuses them from holding up their end of the bargain


That is doubtful, since they're in the same boat as you.
If they do, then normal BTown rules would apply.


Nightsbane wrote:Yeah I think the thing that bartertown hosting doesn't seem to get is that there are a lot of trades in limbo right now, and every day makes it worse. DC# in inboxes, lack of access to paypal addresses etc. I understand a couple days, but it's getting to be long and I have a chunk of money hanging in the air. The items should have been here Saturday and they aren't here yet, but I have no recourse since I have no contact information that isn't on bartertown or in my inbox!

Trying to me patient, but getting nervous...



By "bartertown hosting," are you referring to us (the Admin and owner), or the people that Adam (the owner) purchases his hosting through? If you're referring to the site Admin and owner, then I really can't add anything to what Warboss has said, except to tell you that we are keenly aware of it and are feeling the pinch just as much as you. Heck, possibly more, since we're the guys everyone goes to then *it* hits the fan. : )
Now, if you're truly talking about the hosting company... then, you're probably right. : )

Adam's plugging away at it during every available minute of his spare time : ) . Rest assured that he's trying to get everything up and running for us all.

Eric


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/12 22:44:54


Post by: extropymine


Figures this would happen the same weekend I decided to take the plunge and join Bartertown Plus.

Thanks to Adam for all the hard work getting the site back up, and to you guys keeping us in the loop.



Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/12 23:17:49


Post by: carmachu


Nightsbane wrote:Yeah I think the thing that bartertown hosting doesn't seem to get is that there are a lot of trades in limbo right now, and every day makes it worse. DC# in inboxes, lack of access to paypal addresses etc. I understand a couple days, but it's getting to be long and I have a chunk of money hanging in the air. The items should have been here Saturday and they aren't here yet, but I have no recourse since I have no contact information that isn't on bartertown or in my inbox!

Trying to me patient, but getting nervous...


It will all work out. Mine showed up as promised, but I have no way of telling the guy that. I'm sure he's sweating on whether or not the model has, but the thing is:

We're ALL in the boat together. Its not like just you and MM and porkslime are stuck without access. We all are. So we just have to hang in there.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/13 02:34:58


Post by: MagickalMemories


extropymine wrote:Figures this would happen the same weekend I decided to take the plunge and join Bartertown Plus.

Thanks to Adam for all the hard work getting the site back up, and to you guys keeping us in the loop.



I returned from my extended vacation, and the first thing I was going to do was take care of your add to BT+ (I got your email). So, trying to get into the site to add you was, actually, my first notice that it was down.

Adam's working on it, everyone. Tonight marks 3 nights in a row he's devoted to the site.

Eric


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/13 02:38:50


Post by: IdentifyZero


Hey, best of luck getting it up and running, I've got some trades in limbo...


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/13 03:01:56


Post by: kturock


Heh, I was just about to post a BTR, I just sent it to the mods for approval. I'm missing about $60 worth of minis from a deal.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/13 03:08:37


Post by: extropymine


MagickalMemories wrote:Adam's working on it, everyone. Tonight marks 3 nights in a row he's devoted to the site.

I have my fingers crossed.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/13 03:09:42


Post by: porkuslime


Adam has apprised us that no content from the site will be affected by this.. any PM's in Outboxes will stay there until read, and Read PMs will not be deleted.. likewise trade ads are unaffected.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/13 03:17:14


Post by: extropymine


porkuslime wrote:Adam has apprised us that no content from the site will be affected by this.. any PM's in Outboxes will stay there until read, and Read PMs will not be deleted.. likewise trade ads are unaffected.

Wow, it hadn't even occurred to me the database might have been damaged. Thinking about that gives me shivers.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/13 06:50:48


Post by: th3eviltwin


MagickalMemories wrote:
extropymine wrote:Figures this would happen the same weekend I decided to take the plunge and join Bartertown Plus.

Thanks to Adam for all the hard work getting the site back up, and to you guys keeping us in the loop.



I returned from my extended vacation, and the first thing I was going to do was take care of your add to BT+ (I got your email). So, trying to get into the site to add you was, actually, my first notice that it was down.

Adam's working on it, everyone. Tonight marks 3 nights in a row he's devoted to the site.

Eric


Yes tell him thankyou for all his work


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/13 13:32:32


Post by: DaemonMan


Any news for today??

DM


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/13 13:36:46


Post by: porkuslime


Nothing came thru email last night past what I posted.. and no site this morning.



Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/13 13:47:04


Post by: Phoebus28


Thanks for keeping us updated Mods you guys are great


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/13 15:20:23


Post by: jbarket


Thanks for the updates guys. Good luck getting it repaired.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/13 18:05:01


Post by: WarOne


Good luck guys!


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/13 22:40:18


Post by: ancientsociety


Argh, this sucks. Hope it can be fixed soon...


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/13 23:06:22


Post by: studderingdave


ack! i have chaos warhound titans and a demon army to sell.

im fiending bad.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 01:46:35


Post by: Spartan 117


I still cannot get on. Hopefully this doesnt screw me for aard boyz because what I was getting from there I need for aard boyz badly.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 02:24:38


Post by: projectkmo


This makes me a sad panda.

I can only imagine the frustration this is causing the operators of BT. I know how furious I'd be. It wouldn't be pretty.

I wonder, are they considering a new host yet?


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 03:41:01


Post by: MagickalMemories


All that is up to Adam. I don't know what he's thinking.

I can't speak for anyone but myself. For me, though (and, admittedly, I'm not the one who has to reload all the software, etc.), I'm just taking a "sh** happens" attitude and not letting it get to me. There are few things in this world getting bent out of shape over. This is one of them.

Also, I've got about 6 or 7 unfinished trades. So, I'm not just "blowing smoke."

I would doubt, though, that Adam's considering a new host. AFAIK, this is the first real problem he's had with them. We've had a number of F* ups in the past with other hosts, too. So, it's been a nice change. Hell, this one updates it's freaking security, for God's sake. LOL We've had others that DIDN'T! : )

Eric


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 03:46:22


Post by: Clauss


Sorry if this the wrong time/wrong place to ask. I have never seen/used bartertown, but I have seen people refer to it, obviously here. Could someone give me a quick synopsis of what it is/how it operates.
My guess, a trading site for wargaming/any games, but no auctions like ebay. Much more informal.
Oh and I hope it is up for you all soon


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 03:54:51


Post by: infinite_array


Clauss wrote:Sorry if this the wrong time/wrong place to ask. I have never seen/used bartertown, but I have seen people refer to it, obviously here. Could someone give me a quick synopsis of what it is/how it operates.
My guess, a trading site for wargaming/any games, but no auctions like ebay. Much more informal.
Oh and I hope it is up for you all soon


It's basically like the Dakka Swap Shop, but much, much larger, with subforums for all kinds of wargames, as well as video games, roleplaying, CCG's, etc.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 04:26:24


Post by: MagickalMemories


infinite_array wrote:
Clauss wrote:Sorry if this the wrong time/wrong place to ask. I have never seen/used bartertown, but I have seen people refer to it, obviously here. Could someone give me a quick synopsis of what it is/how it operates.
My guess, a trading site for wargaming/any games, but no auctions like ebay. Much more informal.
Oh and I hope it is up for you all soon


It's basically like the Dakka Swap Shop, but much, much larger, with subforums for all kinds of wargames, as well as video games, roleplaying, CCG's, etc.


Also, our staff are all well versed in trading, shipping, etc.
Not to disrespect Dakka staff, mind you, but I believe that even they would say that we're overall more knowledgeable on trading and the associated areas (shipping, packing, etc).

Also, while Dakka has a less strict "consequence" schedule for poor trade habits (very few people see their accounts here limited for anything short of outright scamming), BTown has an extensive-yet-not-overwhelming ruleset for trading on the site. All of our staff is expected to keep a good trade reputation and practice positive trading habits. Unlike many sites online (NOT referring to Dakka), our staff is held to a HIGHER standard (for trading, in this case) than everyone else.

Bartertown's been around since 1996. We're the oldest gaming trade site online. Every year, we learn more, refine ourselves, and get better. Once we're back up & running, you should come check us out.

Oh... and we do, in fact, have an auction section, as well. : )


Eric


Automatically Appended Next Post:
If you all will excuse me, now, I have this Kool-Aid that's not going to drink itself...

LOL


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 04:28:56


Post by: WarOne


MagickalMemories wrote:
If you all will excuse me, now, I have this Kool-Aid that's not going to drink itself...
LOL


I'll have some of that.

Bartertown is second to none in regard to trading. Never got too deep into trading on their website (I'm actually scared of the system ), but are by far the most reputable.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 05:28:07


Post by: MagickalMemories


If you're scared of the system, then you're probably over analyzing it. ; )

Our "system" is basically as follows:

"Arrange the specifics of the trade however it works for you and your trade partner. Don't exchange certain items, don't rip each other off, communicate thoroughly and don't post business ads if you aren't an advertiser."

It's a bit simplified, mind you, but that's the crux of it. : )

Eric


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 05:28:37


Post by: extropymine


I would like my Kool-Aid in the form of a popsicle, please.

Bartertown is a wonderful resource run by a bunch of stand-up people who I trust. The system they've refined over the years works (nearly) flawlessly, or it always has for me. And woe betide the bad trader.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 11:23:11


Post by: Spartan 117


This is driving me nuts with Btown being down. I have a current deal on there fo aard boys and I need what Im trying to get to make the list playable. Any word of when its going to be fixed?


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 12:33:17


Post by: BrotherTri


Hey All,

Of all the things I like about Bartertown the one thing that I like the most is that it’s a mentors to people for trading. The site instills thought through good trade practices to insure safe trading. Is that cool or what?

Some other great thing I like. You have a awesome database of reference and BTR’s to help you filter out being potentially fraud. It’s got a very cool messaging system that allows you sort your trader for easy trading. It’s got ton on trading knowledge.

Maybe you can share what you like about Bartertown. I would really like to here.

One more thing;
I know there are a lot of open trades right now, so let’s just be patient and let the Admin restore a great site.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 13:34:31


Post by: Eldanar


The best thing about Bartertown is it's reference tools for trader feedback. Much better and easier to follow that Ebay's or any other sites. That tool by itself, through user accountability, pretty much insures that most people are on the up and up. Add to it that the staff is very responsive to problems and take meaningful and proactive steps to insure people behave responsibly. For the most part though, the site simply polices itself through its trade reference tools.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 13:42:03


Post by: warboss


Spartan 117 wrote:This is driving me nuts with Btown being down. I have a current deal on there fo aard boys and I need what Im trying to get to make the list playable. Any word of when its going to be fixed?


I'm sure the owner and admin there (who is paying for the hosting and has advertisers he'll have to credit from his own money) is even more disturbed by it being down than you. Most tabletop gaming websites are NOT the primary source of income for their owners and are worked on when they have real life spare time; I'm sure he's working on it as fast as he can.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 13:44:53


Post by: porkuslime


Gads... I feel like ... all tingly..

It is great to hear what you all think of the site and staff.. very gratifying..

Adam was not able to make MUCH progress last night, but is still plugging away at the issues.

We WILL keep you guys aware of the progress as much as we can.

(and as you all might guess, I also have several pending deals in the works that are on hold)


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 14:41:39


Post by: Vertrucio


I was just about to commission people to make some much needed terrain for me when the site went down.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 15:45:15


Post by: MagickalMemories


When Porkuslime says he has "Several" pending deals, this means he needs two hands, at minimum, to count them. lol

@Vertrucio.
PM me the name of the guy you were going to contact. If it is who I think, I can probably help you get in touch with him.

Eric


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 16:06:23


Post by: Waynebo


Any chance Dakka mods can allow a thread for people to try to reconnect to bartertown users whom people have trades with?

I know someone tried to create one in Swap Shop, but it got shut down because it got derailed quickly by "What happened to Bartertown!??" posts.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 16:48:54


Post by: Syraphym


This actually sounds like a grand idea since I have a few pending trades there myself. Once B-town is back in business we could just lock the thread. This way everyone's not as worried about getting their stuff in time for big events.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 18:40:42


Post by: warboss


MagickalMemories wrote:When Porkuslime says he has "Several" pending deals, this means he needs two hands, at minimum, to count them. lol



So that's how you get to a ranking of over 1,000....


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 19:38:03


Post by: extropymine


warboss wrote:
MagickalMemories wrote:When Porkuslime says he has "Several" pending deals, this means he needs two hands, at minimum, to count them. lol



So that's how you get to a ranking of over 1,000....

I've always wondered that myself. Whenever I've needed to juggle more than three or four trades, I find myself having to make an excel spreadsheet for them. So the idea of having 8 or 10 trades in the works at once staggers me. I'd probably ship my ork guy some IG and ship my IG guy a box of styrofoam peanuts, I'd get so flustered.

But back on topic. Or, rather, back on off-topic.

I also love Bartertown for the fact that it keeps the "politics" of gaming pretty well separated from the business at hand: trading junk I don't want anymore for junk I do. I've never posted 'looking for finecast hive guard' and had to deal with someone responding with a rant about how much finecast sucks, for instance. It's possible my trading partner is laughing all the way to the post office ("I can't believe he wants this finecast crap!"), but I won't ever know about it. It keeps my mood pretty positive and upbeat as a result.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 21:00:53


Post by: MagickalMemories


@extropy-
Me, too.
I find myself writing details on index cards if I'm conducting more than 3 trades at once. Even when I sold of a TON of stuff earlier this year (or was it late last year? Hmmm)., I used a spreadsheet AND index cards. LOL

Yes. We try to keep trading and discussion separate. There is plenty of Finecost hate to go around, but we keep it to our dedicated discussion forums.


Eric


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/14 22:47:22


Post by: Ulf


Waynebo wrote:... thread for people to try to reconnect to bartertown users whom people have trades with?


This is a great idea. My bartertown username is Gamefusion. If any of the three people that currently have trades in limbo with me happen to see this and want to get a hold of me, send me a PM. I'll redirect you to my e-mail, and we can work out finishing up our trades via e-mail.

I only have your addresses in my Bartertown inbox, so your models have been sitting on a shelf, all packed up, waiting for the site to come back online.

To the guy who sent me the replacement card; it got here just fine, and I just need your address.
To the guy who had a distributor send me models; they're here, everything's good, and I just need your address.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 00:14:31


Post by: Gannon


Hey guys XboxDude79 from the B-Town forums here. Just wanted to say good luck to Adam and any of the mods that are helping to get this fixed. I'm definitely missing my bartering fix right now. I'll keep checking in periodically, it was good to see a thread up on this, as the only other news I found was on second sphere.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 00:39:05


Post by: DaemonMan


oAFLORD here...

I appreciate what Adam and the boys are doing, I really do... but, when do we start to be concerned? I understand that Bartertown is not a full time job and Adam does have other responsibilities. Believe me, I am a parent of 2 (with 1 on the way) so I totally get time constraints. To reiterate... What is the tipping point? When does this become a worry? *crosses fingers this gets done in the next 48...

DM


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 01:27:25


Post by: Hekal Xul


Username: same

Have a trade with "Winky" that was in progress just had to organise payment. Fwiw I'm still interested so shoot me a pm with your email address and confirmation of total.

Cheers and all the best to the staff at Bartertown.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 01:54:19


Post by: jmsincla


Looks like it should back be up relatively soon, per the site anyway.

The site being down makes one realize how nice it is to have a free, user friendly site such as B-Town. It's definitely helped me feed my gaming addiction. Sometimes I wonder if I have a trading addiction.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 01:58:04


Post by: carmachu


yeah it says:

I'm touching up the final config, give me until Friday or so.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 01:59:30


Post by: kturock


jmsincla wrote:Looks like it should back be up relatively soon, per the site anyway.

The site being down makes one realize how nice it is to have a free, user friendly site such as B-Town. It's definitely helped me feed my gaming addiction. Sometimes I wonder if I have a trading addiction.


Same here. It seems my trading addiction fills in for my gaming fix.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 02:19:15


Post by: Shotgun


Just got in. Looks like ratings might still need some tweeks, but it fired up for me.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 02:39:16


Post by: jmsincla


Shotgun wrote:Just got in. Looks like ratings might still need some tweeks, but it fired up for me.


Yeah, working for me as well, looks like it's back.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 02:50:54


Post by: sum1thtdiesalot


I dunno if anyone else is having this problem but I am unable to look at my PMs. I just get a message that says "You are not authorized to read private messages"


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 03:02:22


Post by: extropymine


sum1thtdiesalot wrote:I dunno if anyone else is having this problem but I am unable to look at my PMs. I just get a message that says "You are not authorized to read private messages"

Same here. But woo-hoo, it's (mostly) back up!


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 03:30:16


Post by: Shotgun


Interestingly, I can send a pm by pressing the PM button to respond to an ad, but can't look at my Inbox/Outbox


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 03:57:56


Post by: Ulf


I'm having the same issue. Oddly enough, if you click on a user's name, you can send them a PM from that page.

I sent a PM to Trademaster Adam letting him know about the problem. Hopefully the thick layer of irony won't stop him getting to his inbox to read the message about people not being able to get to their inboxes.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 04:38:04


Post by: porkuslime


Yes, we are back up in "90% good to go mode" but Adam is adding more stuff back onto the site as time goes by. He THINKS we will be back to normal (or whatever normal counts as) by Sunday.

Avatars are currently disabled, and there is some issue with PM boxes.. but hope is there!

-P


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 05:22:44


Post by: warboss


It'll be interesting to see how this "out in the open" online bartering will go since people can't make an offer via PM the usual way at the moment.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 09:18:37


Post by: newsun


Stoked to see that it's at least partially up.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 10:48:02


Post by: don_mondo


Just logged on, PMs good and everything.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 13:42:52


Post by: Eldanar


warboss wrote:It'll be interesting to see how this "out in the open" online bartering will go since people can't make an offer via PM the usual way at the moment.


Interestingly enough, that is the way people used to trade, before PM's. We either exchanged e-mail addresses, or conducted business out in the open.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 13:47:26


Post by: Kirasu


Conducting business in the open is really awkward if you have multiple buyers and you're trying to determine who is best or if you've decided one buyer isnt up to standards .. yet you still have to let them view all your responses to others.

Not the way to do business either online or in person


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 14:00:14


Post by: MagickalMemories


Eldanar wrote:
warboss wrote:It'll be interesting to see how this "out in the open" online bartering will go since people can't make an offer via PM the usual way at the moment.


Interestingly enough, that is the way people used to trade, before PM's. We either exchanged e-mail addresses, or conducted business out in the open.


Oh, Lord, I do NOT miss those old, scrolling forums. : )

Kirasu wrote:Conducting business in the open is really awkward if you have multiple buyers and you're trying to determine who is best or if you've decided one buyer isnt up to standards .. yet you still have to let them view all your responses to others.

Not the way to do business either online or in person


There's always email. You can insert your email address in such a manner as to avoid spambots (I am MagickalMemories and it is at America Online). While you lose the benefit of having everything hosted on-site, you gain the benefit of not being hobbled if, say, the whole site gets spanked by the host (hypothetically speaking, of course ).

I did not get to get online last night. I checked BT a few minutes ago, then immediately came here to be sure Pork had updated (I didn't know how long the site had been up).

I would like to request that the Mods leave this thread open for now, until we're certain that the site's 100%. While we can always post updates to BTown, those won't be worth much if the site drops again. : ) Thanks.

Eric

Eric


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 15:37:08


Post by: Eldanar


Kirasu wrote:Conducting business in the open is really awkward if you have multiple buyers and you're trying to determine who is best or if you've decided one buyer isnt up to standards .. yet you still have to let them view all your responses to others.

Not the way to do business either online or in person


I agree with you. Hence why people typically exchanged e-mails. Or the posting looked more like an auction format.


P.S. to MM - I don't miss the scrolling forums either...


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 15:44:18


Post by: carmachu


Its back up, but I cant find the feedback area, to look or leave....


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 15:56:53


Post by: pretre


@carmachu

From http://www.bartertown.com/trading/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=142473

Board Update!
by TrademasterAdam » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:09 pm

Hello all,

Sorry for the unannounced board update. We had huge issues with Apache, PHP and MySQL all at once so we punted and upgraded the whole lot to the latest version.

I'm adding back in the rest of the board features (ads, trade references, etc.), give me a few days to integrate the rest of the board features. Until then, I've turned the board on so you can continue trading.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/15 21:50:55


Post by: kturock


Thanks.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/16 04:02:57


Post by: DaemonMan


Yay!


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/21 17:29:42


Post by: newsun


Any idea when the references feature will be up and running again?


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/21 18:03:35


Post by: MagickalMemories


No need to stress Dakka mods with watching a thread that is no longer necessary.

Now that we're back up and running, please visit Bartertown for BTown related assistance.
We have a thread set up, opened by TrademasterAdam, where you can ask questions

http://www.bartertown.com/trading/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=142473

Thanks.

Eric


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/07/21 18:34:03


Post by: Janthkin


<thread terminated; service restored; rejoice>


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/08/15 11:12:39


Post by: BrotherTri


Bartertown is off line 15 Aug 11


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/08/15 14:53:35


Post by: gpfredette


Good day,

I have sent an email to several admins on B-Town just to get them up to speed.

I am receiving a 'Problem Loading Page' error when I try to load it up.

It was working last evening around 9:30pm Arizona time.

Hopefully this won't be as long a down time as the last time.

Thank you,


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/08/15 15:17:09


Post by: MagickalMemories


Hmm. It was working as of midnight-ish this morning, Central tiime.

::checks site::

I just got in fine. No problems at all.

Eric


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/08/15 15:17:20


Post by: gpfredette


Good day,

As of 08:15am Arizona time B-Town is back up and running.

I just logged in.

Thank you,


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/08/15 15:18:10


Post by: MagickalMemories


BTW, I got in fine using both Firefox and IE6 (Yes. My employer is still stuck on IE6. Shut it! LOL).

Eric


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/08/15 15:21:29


Post by: Aerethan


Got in "fine". Granted it took a while to load, longer than usual which was already pretty slow.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/08/15 15:32:21


Post by: MagickalMemories


Really?
Even using IE6 at work, the site's almost never slow to load for me.
Occasionally, during "peak" periods, it might take a few extra seconds for a PM to send or post to load. That's about it, though.

Eric


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/08/15 15:43:33


Post by: Aerethan


I use FF4 and it's the slowest site on my bookmarks.


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/08/15 15:58:59


Post by: Kirasu


MagickalMemories wrote:Really?
Even using IE6 at work, the site's almost never slow to load for me.
Occasionally, during "peak" periods, it might take a few extra seconds for a PM to send or post to load. That's about it, though.

Eric


So much pain caused from seeing that someone is using IE6 still :(


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/08/15 19:25:28


Post by: MagickalMemories


You think YOU are in pain? You aren't the one using it! lol

Eric


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/10/31 02:15:32


Post by: BrotherTri


I get this when going to Bartertown

Anybody else?




Information

Let's start again Monday



Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/10/31 02:59:04


Post by: porkuslime


I believe that Adam is re-working some code right now.. he said that the weekend would be rough but had high hopes for Monday returning to normal.

I wish I had better news, or a firm diagnosis.

-Porkuslime


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/10/31 13:44:22


Post by: nectarprime


Thanks for the update guys. Good luck!


Bartertown is OFF-line 30 Oct 2011 @ 2011/10/31 15:17:46


Post by: Lorek


Could you all please start a new thread on this? I know it's the same general topic, but it's a different incident.

I'm going to lock this one to avoid confusion.

Thank you.