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I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 06:07:48


Post by: TheWildHost


So Im ( WOULD BE REMOVED BY MOD THIS IS A PREMPTIVE MOD BLOCK) and My dad was driving me back from the dentist (Barces checkup) and he is cursing at the crappy music Snoop Dog, Eminem, Ladygaga( She has SOME Ok songs most of her old stuff was aight) Justin bieber the list goes on and on and on. He turns the radio off and pops in some stones. Well the record sucked so he switched to lynyrd skynyrd. WTF HAppened to origanal Good music? I mean there is SOME Out there but it is slowly fading. It was like someone hit a light switch. Im (See first age Post) I wasn't alive in the prime of country and rock and im white( Verge of redneck) but I see white frineds(Not to be racist I have black friends) Dropping like flies to rap music and Bull Sh%t like that. MY white friends are trying to corrupt me. Im supposed to like this and this but this music sucks and this is in. No Im going to be the guy who goes against the current.



I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 06:58:59


Post by: Swordwind


The only reason why the oldies look so good is because noone remembers the crap ones.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 07:11:36


Post by: Karon


Hip-Hop or Rap (they are the same damn thing) has fallen off recently, the vast majority is just gak.

The old artists are still making good records for the most part (Wu-Tang, Ice Cube, Bone Thugs, soon DMX)

All the so called "Hip-Hop" in today's thinking, is all trash.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 10:09:59


Post by: Albatross


Your 'white friends' are 'falling' to rap music? Like it's some sort of primitive art-form, suitable only for black people?

Wow, you really ARE a redneck....


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 10:45:30


Post by: CT GAMER


Wait until he dscovers queer-hop. His head might explode...


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 10:50:48


Post by: J.Black


Wait until he's old enough to realise that it's all pop-music that no-one really cares about and we might see a more tolerant approach.....



I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 10:54:38


Post by: SagesStone


Don't worry OP, I also gave up on any hopes music would improve after Soulja Boy showed up. Hell, I even started searching for music in other languages to escape it.

So grats I guess? You never had to "rebel" against the music everyone else seems to like more or even go along with it. Like something because you like it, not because someone else does.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 10:59:56


Post by: Swordwind


I also don't see what the ethnicity of your friends has to do with this. If they like crappy music they like crappy music, regardless of if they're white/black/yellow/maroon.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 12:54:21


Post by: Slarg232


Albatross wrote:Your 'white friends' are 'falling' to rap music? Like it's some sort of primitive art-form, suitable only for black people?

Wow, you really ARE a redneck....


I don't know so much about White people or Black people, but nobody deserves to have to listen to Rap.....


If everyone looks through rose tinted glasses about Music, why is it that all the new songs I'm hearing suck compared to the old songs my local radio is still playing, and all they are playing is the terrible songs from yesteryear?


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 13:10:36


Post by: Corpsesarefun


I quite like rap.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 13:12:03


Post by: DarkCorsair


You're right, most of the good music is slowly fading. I mainly listen to late 90s-early 2000s punk rock, because there isn't anything good anymore.

There are still a few good bands still making good music out there. Flogging Molly, for example. What kind of music do you listen to?


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 13:20:10


Post by: Gorskar.da.Lost


I think you just have to look a bit harder for good music. It's still plentiful, really.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 13:22:13


Post by: Slarg232


corpsesarefun wrote:I quite like rap.


I'm going to leave you in your wrongness, so you can be WRONG!


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 14:27:26


Post by: CT GAMER


The only thing worse then someone who likes horrible music is the cool kid that thinks everyone else's music but what he likes is horrible.

Pretentious music snobbery is both amusing and sad at the same time...


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 15:30:35


Post by: Cannerus_The_Unbearable


If even one person enjoys a song, you are capable of enjoying it yourself if you try to find the groove. That aside, some things will have more effort or "artistry" behind them, but people are allowed to like what they want. Also, quit sounding like you're 12.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 16:02:34


Post by: TheWildHost


Albatross wrote:Your 'white friends' are 'falling' to rap music? Like it's some sort of primitive art-form, suitable only for black people?

Wow, you really ARE a redneck....


No, I have Black friends who hate rap and whites friends who Act like Eminem when i say falling i mean filling their ipods with only rap music while delteing EVERYTHING else. And don't talk to me about racism I go to a 80% minorty school and I get more Bull Sh*t than any of them. I said white Friends where it in all honsety should have been friends (Asians Hispanic, etc etc) and a majority of my black friends have always liked rap soooo....



I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 16:05:50


Post by: Mr Mystery


Switch off the radio.

Go to gigs. It's less marketable, hence less heard. But good music is out there


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 16:08:05


Post by: Soladrin


First off, check your bloody spelling, that message hurt my brain somehow.

Secondly, so? If they are your friends, just tell them it's not your box of chocolates and they shouldn't bother trying to make you interested, or, if it bothers you that much, get new friends?

Every age has crap music, you just need to wade through the filth to get to the shinies!


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 16:11:05


Post by: TheWildHost


Sorry OP was at two in the morning half asleep and the most recent was after I woke yp (As in Im still waking up)


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 17:41:10


Post by: GalacticDefender


Listen to some metal, like Hammerfall, Rhapsody of fire, Metallica, Nightwish, Alestorm(if ye like pirates), etc.


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Also Cage the Elephant is a good rock band.


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Oh, and I forgot to mention Iron Maiden. They came out with a new album, the Final Frontier last year. Proof there is still good new music.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 17:47:24


Post by: Mr. Self Destruct


Lady Gaga is the only mainstream artist worth listening to.
/thread.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 17:57:43


Post by: purplefood


Why does mainstream get so much hate?
I quite like some of it...


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 19:19:49


Post by: GalacticDefender


Lady Gaga said Iron Maiden was her favorite band. Weird, huh?


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 19:24:02


Post by: FITZZ


GalacticDefender wrote:Lady Gaga said Iron Maiden was her favorite band. Weird, huh?


Not at all, she seems to be a somewhat diverse personality...makes sense that she would enjoy a varitey of musical genres.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 19:24:53


Post by: Coolyo294


Is it just me, or does Lady Gaga remind anyone else of a Sister of Battle?


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 19:27:34


Post by: Cannerus_The_Unbearable


GalacticDefender wrote:Lady Gaga said Iron Maiden was her favorite band. Weird, huh?


Not really.



Quote Gene Simmons: "She's not Lady Gaga, she's really Lady Kiss. I love the vibe, the big mouth and the big visuals. She's the most exciting thing to happen since us."

Quote Slash: "The person people would probably be surprised to find that I like is Lady Gaga."

And there's lots more


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 19:56:49


Post by: A Black Ram


I don't bother with mainstream music.

It's like my Grandpa once said, ''If they can't sing, they have to do something to make up for it.''


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 20:01:11


Post by: FITZZ


A Black Ram wrote: I don't bother with mainstream music.

It's like my Grandpa once said, ''If they can't sing, they have to do something to make up for it.''


Depends on the genre really, some "mainstream" is ok, but the bubble gum/pop is just annoying ( IMO)...
For the most part I stick with my tried and true old punk roots.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 20:01:48


Post by: lord commissar klimino


i just dont like most music. the number of songs i like can be counted on one hand.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 20:08:01


Post by: FITZZ


lord commissar klimino wrote:i just dont like most music. the number of songs i like can be counted on one hand.


You should perhaps broaden your listening horizons....


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 20:10:10


Post by: lord commissar klimino


FITZZ wrote:
lord commissar klimino wrote:i just dont like most music. the number of songs i like can be counted on one hand.


You should perhaps broaden your listening horizons....


ive heard lots of songs,but not many i like many i really liked. im ok with lots of songs,but only like very little. funny thing is some of them i get their name wrong


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 20:19:31


Post by: Cannerus_The_Unbearable


FITZZ wrote:
For the most part I stick with my tried and true old punk roots.


Sadly, from a technical standpoint most old punk had much less effort put into it than said bubble gum pop


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 20:21:09


Post by: Coolyo294


Bah. Modern music. Who needs it? Metal is where it's at.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 20:23:04


Post by: A Black Ram


Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
FITZZ wrote:
For the most part I stick with my tried and true old punk roots.


Sadly, from a technical standpoint most old punk had much less effort put into it than said bubble gum pop



I'm just glad it doesn't have the exact same theme as nearly every pop song, sex.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 20:23:08


Post by: FITZZ


Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
FITZZ wrote:
For the most part I stick with my tried and true old punk roots.


Sadly, from a technical standpoint most old punk had much less effort put into it than said bubble gum pop


I can agree with that, from a technical aspect most bubble gum pop is more involved, but...for content...gimme my Dead Kennedy's any day.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 20:51:51


Post by: DaemonJellybaby


to the OP
1) Turn off the radio
2) load up grooveshark or another internet music provider
3) listen to what YOU like, and enjoy it, for if it is good enough for you, everyone else will just have to accept it or else...


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 21:17:32


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I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 22:05:18


Post by: Dreadwinter


This might seem odd, but Artists have bills to pay. So they need to make money. They play what people like and want to hear. So they can make money.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 22:16:06


Post by: Slarg232


You know, I didn't like Lady Gaga until she made On the Edge of Glory.

But then, I didn't like Katy Perry until E.T. either....


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 22:23:29


Post by: FITZZ


Slarg232 wrote:You know, I didn't like Lady Gaga until she made On the Edge of Glory.

But then, I didn't like Katy Perry until E.T. either....





...What does E.T. have to do with music???


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 22:26:27


Post by: Slarg232


FITZZ wrote:
Slarg232 wrote:You know, I didn't like Lady Gaga until she made On the Edge of Glory.

But then, I didn't like Katy Perry until E.T. either....





...What does E.T. have to do with music???


Her song, E.T. It's about a dude who acts almost alien like compared to what she has known before. Don't care about hte lyrics, but the beat is damn catchy.

Just don't watch the video for it, makes even less sense, and make sure to get it WITHOUT Kanye....


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 22:31:30


Post by: FITZZ


...I have absolutely no idea who Katie Perry is, and wouldn't know her if I was listening to her...but I'll keep what you said in mind.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 22:32:36


Post by: Cannerus_The_Unbearable


A Black Ram wrote:
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
FITZZ wrote:
For the most part I stick with my tried and true old punk roots.


Sadly, from a technical standpoint most old punk had much less effort put into it than said bubble gum pop



I'm just glad it doesn't have the exact same theme as nearly every pop song, sex.


Most radio songs now are about "the club." For every song about sex there are two about the mushy parts of love and even then there are plenty of songs whose central theme is something else entirely. Old punk specifically had a lot to do with rebelling or drug usage though. Pop isn't dirty.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 22:37:06


Post by: Grimtuff


FITZZ wrote:...I have absolutely no idea who Katie Perry is, and wouldn't know her if I was listening to her...but I'll keep what you said in mind.




How can you not know who Katy Perry is? She's most known for being that girl that looks like a Photoshop job of Zooey Deschanel's face on a pornstar's body. Who interestingly is really called Katy Hudson but changed it to not be confused with the actress with the (almost) same name.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 22:43:52


Post by: FITZZ


...Well she certianlly looks nice covered in hands and liquids...
Though I still wouldn't know her if she fell on me.
...Guess I'm just not keeping up with all the hip new cats and kittens.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 22:49:25


Post by: Slarg232


Yeah, I didn't know about her either; Hot N Cold was on the decent side of "Meh", but yeah.

Off topic, I know someone who looks EXACTLY like Katy Perry. Only problem is, there is alot of empty space between her ears, if you know what I mean.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 22:59:44


Post by: FITZZ


Slarg232 wrote:Yeah, I didn't know about her either; Hot N Cold was on the decent side of "Meh", but yeah.

Off topic, I know someone who looks EXACTLY like Katy Perry. Only problem is, there is alot of empty space between her ears, if you know what I mean.


At the risk of sounding sexist, concerning any girl who looks like the woman pictured above...the last thing I'd be concerned about (were I single) would be empty space between her ears.

EDIT:...Just saying that every "relationship" doesn't have to be " deep"," meaningful" or filled with " intelligent conversation."....


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 23:12:01


Post by: Slarg232


FITZZ wrote:
Slarg232 wrote:Yeah, I didn't know about her either; Hot N Cold was on the decent side of "Meh", but yeah.

Off topic, I know someone who looks EXACTLY like Katy Perry. Only problem is, there is alot of empty space between her ears, if you know what I mean.


At the risk of sounding sexist, concerning any girl who looks like the woman pictured above...the last thing I'd be concerned about (were I single) would be empty space between her ears.

EDIT:...Just saying that every "relationship" doesn't have to be " deep"," meaningful" or filled with " intelligent conversation."....


While this is true, She hangs out with "Sharon" from that one thread, who has taken a turn for the worse, and another girl who is a manipulative.... "person".


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 23:26:27


Post by: TheWildHost


Dreadwinter wrote:This might seem odd, but Artists have bills to pay. So they need to make money. They play what people like and want to hear. So they can make money.


Like their multi-million dollar mansions? Maybe their 3 Cars. Their Maid?

Now Smaller Artists yeah they do need to make money so they have to play what people want, but JB made a gakload last year and so did a bunch of others.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 23:28:01


Post by: Slarg232


TheWildHost wrote:
Dreadwinter wrote:This might seem odd, but Artists have bills to pay. So they need to make money. They play what people like and want to hear. So they can make money.


Like their multi-million dollar mansions? Maybe their 3 Cars. Their Maid?

Now Smaller Artists yeah they do need to make money so they have to play what people want, but JB made a gakload last year and so did a bunch of others.


Diamond studded swimming pools and Solid Gold Humvee's don't grow on trees....


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 23:32:57


Post by: Cannerus_The_Unbearable


(The majority of) You people have no idea how the music industry works. Commercial song writing is an art form just as much as anything else. Seriously, it's all music and it all plays by it's own set of rules regardless of popularity or genre.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 23:37:06


Post by: Skycrawler


Ugh this mainstream hip-hop/rap gak annoys me and thats saying a lot. My musical tastes ranges from most forms of metal to almost anything else. Feth i ve literally stayed awake for hours because i found a nice folk music station.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/17 23:59:21


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


Haha I'm more down with the kids than Fitzz
I have heard of Katie Perry

Still wouldn't know her from Eve if she jumped at me juggling melons wearing a "I am Katie Perry" T shirt

not sure what Katie was wearing I was watching the melons.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 00:10:04


Post by: FITZZ


Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Haha I'm more down with the kids than Fitzz
I have heard of Katie Perry

Still wouldn't know her from Eve if she jumped at me juggling melons wearing a "I am Katie Perry" T shirt

not sure what Katie was wearing I was watching the melons.


...I try to stay hip and with it Chibi...but then I realize I don't really care and put on some Ramones.

...I do agree with you about the melons..





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...And speaking of staying "hip and with it"...well..




I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 02:57:34


Post by: rubiksnoob


So far FITZZ is winning the thread, along with whoever mentioned the Dead Kennedys.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 03:03:26


Post by: Slarg232


rubiksnoob wrote:So far FITZZ is winning the thread, along with whoever mentioned the Dead Kennedys.


What about my Wierd Al reference?


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 03:16:02


Post by: FITZZ


rubiksnoob wrote:So far FITZZ is winning the thread, along with whoever mentioned the Dead Kennedys.


That was me who mentioned the Dead Kennedys....so I guess I'm double winning..


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 03:22:58


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


This is how hip I am these days





I don't recall that I'm Agin It song, Fittz, but was instantly taken back to the Pen and Wig pub Birmingham
Guess it was just the sound of the time


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 03:47:28


Post by: FITZZ


Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:This is how hip I am these days





I don't recall that I'm Agin It song, Fittz, but was instantly taken back to the Pen and Wig pub Birmingham
Guess it was just the sound of the time


I guess so Chibi..much more entertaining time if you ask me.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 06:30:32


Post by: DA's Forever


Just go look up some Metal Church or Black Flag. Just branch out, find what you love, and go with it. Oh and by the way, look up some Overkill while your at it.


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Just go look up some Metal Church or Black Flag. Just branch out, find what you love, and go with it. Oh and by the way, look up some Overkill while your at it.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 07:26:39


Post by: Radiation


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_music

Very brief but actually pretty good. Welcome to the underground.

Check the broadcast section. They aren't gonna tell you what station. But any college station is going to be playing real music. You have to find it yourself. DIY. Do it yourself.

Try MaximumRocknRoll Radio. Turn it up loud


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 20:58:57


Post by: DaemonJellybaby


Listen to TIM MINCHIN!!
dont be offended too much tho


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 21:08:30


Post by: Trondheim


Wow, well I migth not be in with the "inn" crowd when it comes to musical choices, but here are some bands I find worth lisening to.
- BattleLore
- Amon Amarth
- Sabaton
- Enslaved
- Wolves Like Us


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 21:27:54


Post by: FITZZ


Radiation wrote:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_music

Very brief but actually pretty good. Welcome to the underground.

Check the broadcast section. They aren't gonna tell you what station. But any college station is going to be playing real music. You have to find it yourself. DIY. Do it yourself.

Try MaximumRocknRoll Radio. Turn it up loud


Good to see MRR is still alive and kicking, I still have stacks of their publication from back in the Tim Yohanah days .
I'll have to look back in on their goings on...


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 21:42:03


Post by: CT GAMER


Trondheim wrote:Wow, well I migth not be in with the "inn" crowd


What does tavern music have to do with this?


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 21:42:29


Post by: Perkustin


There is plenty of good rap music at the moment, personally i am not a fan but Tyler the Creator / Odd future Wolfgang are pretty brave/unique musically and lyrically.

Plus don't be bashing Eminem, his first album is great, the lyrics are actually hilarious in a totally puerile and reprehensible way.

Oh and you haven't heard garbage music 'till you've worked in a supermarket. Their playlists are compiled by Satan himself. Suffice it to say th songs are so bad Enrique Englesias' 'escape' is IMO the pick of the bunch


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 21:49:22


Post by: FITZZ


Perkustin wrote:There is plenty of good rap music at the moment, personally i am not a fan but Tyler the Creator / Odd future Wolfgang are pretty brave/unique musically and lyrically.

Plus don't be bashing Eminem, his first album is great, the lyrics are actually hilarious in a totally puerile and reprehensible way.

Oh and you haven't heard garbage music 'till you've worked in a supermarket. Their playlists are compiled by Satan himself. Suffice it to say th songs are so bad Enrique Englesias' 'escape' is IMO the pick of the bunch


I actually like the first few Eminem albums, made me chuckle quite a bit, but as far as most Rap/Hip Hop...haven't heard much that I like since the mid 90's...it all just seems a bit "cookie cutter" now.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 21:50:10


Post by: Soladrin


Modern music can be awesome, just not the crap you get on the radio/tv.







And if you want proper good music(listen to the full song btw, quite a lot of changes in there ):






I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 21:50:35


Post by: Cheesecat


Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
GalacticDefender wrote:Lady Gaga said Iron Maiden was her favorite band. Weird, huh?


Not really.



Quote Gene Simmons: "She's not Lady Gaga, she's really Lady Kiss. I love the vibe, the big mouth and the big visuals. She's the most exciting thing to happen since us."

Quote Slash: "The person people would probably be surprised to find that I like is Lady Gaga."

And there's lots more


Wow is Gene Simmons really that full of gak? There are tons more bands who are more exciting than KISS.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 22:03:05


Post by: FITZZ


Cheesecat wrote:
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
GalacticDefender wrote:Lady Gaga said Iron Maiden was her favorite band. Weird, huh?


Not really.



Quote Gene Simmons: "She's not Lady Gaga, she's really Lady Kiss. I love the vibe, the big mouth and the big visuals. She's the most exciting thing to happen since us."

Quote Slash: "The person people would probably be surprised to find that I like is Lady Gaga."

And there's lots more


Wow is Gene Simmons really that full of gak? There are tons more bands who are more exciting than KISS.


Gene Simmons IS that full of gak...but you have to look at things from his perspective .
During the 70's..a lot of "Mainstream music" was ( arguably) very dull...particularly live concerts.( Hence the punk backlash)...
KISS...in it's early years introduced an element of showmanship and theatrics into musical performance that was seldom seen prior to them.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 22:11:43


Post by: Cheesecat


FITZZ wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
GalacticDefender wrote:Lady Gaga said Iron Maiden was her favorite band. Weird, huh?


Not really.



Quote Gene Simmons: "She's not Lady Gaga, she's really Lady Kiss. I love the vibe, the big mouth and the big visuals. She's the most exciting thing to happen since us."

Quote Slash: "The person people would probably be surprised to find that I like is Lady Gaga."

And there's lots more


Wow is Gene Simmons really that full of gak? There are tons more bands who are more exciting than KISS.


Gene Simmons IS that full of gak...but you have to look at things from his perspective .
During the 70's..a lot of "Mainstream music" was ( arguably) very dull...particularly live concerts.( Hence the punk backlash)...
KISS...in it's early years introduced an element of showmanship and theatrics into musical performance that was seldom seen prior to them.


70's mainstream music is dull? I wouldn't call Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Jethro Tull, etc boring to listen to.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 22:21:11


Post by: FITZZ


No, neither would I...but what I'm talking about is performance...the actual concerts..
A lot of the bands were a bit " dull" watching them live..that's what I'm getting at.
KISS ...in the context in which Simmons is refering, put on a " Show".


If you saw Sabbath live...you saw this...




If you went to see KISS...you got this..



I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 22:31:19


Post by: Cheesecat


FITZZ wrote: No, neither would I...but what I'm talking about is performance...the actual concerts..
A lot of the bands were a bit " dull" watching them live..that's what I'm getting at.
KISS ...in the context in which Simmons is refering, put on a " Show".


Yeah, I can agree with that most of the time it's just watching musicians playing awesome songs in front of a screaming crowd who can barely hear anything. You might get a few guys jumping about making weird

hand gestures/body movements but that's about it.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 22:38:14


Post by: Soladrin


If you want a show, go to rammstein live :3


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 22:41:15


Post by: Cheesecat


Soladrin wrote:If you want a show, go to rammstein live :3


I'm not a fan of Rammstein unfortunately.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 22:41:44


Post by: FITZZ


Cheesecat wrote:
FITZZ wrote: No, neither would I...but what I'm talking about is performance...the actual concerts..
A lot of the bands were a bit " dull" watching them live..that's what I'm getting at.
KISS ...in the context in which Simmons is refering, put on a " Show".


Yeah, I can agree with that most of the time it's just watching musicians playing awesome songs in front of a screaming crowd. You might get a few guys jumping about making weird hand gestures/body

movements but that's about it.



Exactly, there where plenty of bands with more musical talent then KISS...but Performance wise...KISS blew them away...
That's one of the reasons that in the 80's you had so many bands copying KISS' theatrics...KISS filled stadiums and made millions ...these other bands wanted to do the same.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 22:44:51


Post by: Soladrin


Cheesecat wrote:
Soladrin wrote:If you want a show, go to rammstein live :3


I'm not a fan of Rammstein unfortunately.


Spoiler:
There's lots of fire.. and he lights himself on fire.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 22:48:40


Post by: Cheesecat


Soladrin wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:
Soladrin wrote:If you want a show, go to rammstein live :3


I'm not a fan of Rammstein unfortunately.


Spoiler:
There's lots of fire.. and he lights himself on fire.


I guess I wouldn't mind going to a band I dislike, if they light themselves on fire. Also why the spoiler text?


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/18 22:48:52


Post by: Perkustin


No offence Soldarin but that first song you link + the video looks and sounds like a Tim and Eric's Awesome Show parody of modern music. Which isnt necessarily a good thing.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/19 04:07:04


Post by: Stormrider


Cheesecat wrote:
FITZZ wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
GalacticDefender wrote:Lady Gaga said Iron Maiden was her favorite band. Weird, huh?


Not really.



Quote Gene Simmons: "She's not Lady Gaga, she's really Lady Kiss. I love the vibe, the big mouth and the big visuals. She's the most exciting thing to happen since us."

Quote Slash: "The person people would probably be surprised to find that I like is Lady Gaga."

And there's lots more


Wow is Gene Simmons really that full of gak? There are tons more bands who are more exciting than KISS.


Gene Simmons IS that full of gak...but you have to look at things from his perspective .
During the 70's..a lot of "Mainstream music" was ( arguably) very dull...particularly live concerts.( Hence the punk backlash)...
KISS...in it's early years introduced an element of showmanship and theatrics into musical performance that was seldom seen prior to them.


70's mainstream music is dull? I wouldn't call Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Jethro Tull, etc boring to listen to.


They weren't really mainstream though, all of those bands got extensive Airplay on FM when AM still ruled the radio. Now they're mainstream because the mainstream music of the 70's (pop & disco) cannot hold up at all in today's world compared to those bands you listed. Black Sabbath was the red headed step child of Hard Rock, Rolling stone called their first 3 albums "trash" effectively and it was because they didn't play the game with the media, and suffered because of it. Look at Rush, they weren't mainstream until very recently and still aren't for the most part. Any "mainstream" Pink Floyd fan can name a handful of songs, a true dedicated fan can rattle off Syd Barret era music like a champ. Jethro Tull was a side act at best for a lot of people, even though they freaking rule. Deep Purple was one of the best bands of the era (along with Rainbow). BOC was the gak. KISS was cheesy but they could still make pretty decent music.

Here's one of my favorite Black Sabbath Tracks, completely and almost lost to history...almost:




I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/19 04:19:55


Post by: DickBandit


South Park actually addressed this issue in the newest episode:
You're getting old.

It's pretty hilarious.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s15e07-youre-getting-old


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/19 04:33:40


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


Much of 70's mainstream was pap and to make matters worse novelty songs would top the charts.

Some of the crap made the Osmonds look cool!



I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/19 05:00:19


Post by: remilia_scarlet


Karon wrote:Hip-Hop or Rap (they are the same damn thing) has fallen off recently, the vast majority is just gak.

The old artists are still making good records for the most part (Wu-Tang, Ice Cube, Bone Thugs, soon DMX)

All the so called "Hip-Hop" in today's thinking, is all trash.


That's so wrong, hip-hop, true hip-hop is an infusion between instrumentals and beats. Hip-hop is more about the background music and poetry, which may or may not discuss issues within the black community/politics/society/hardship. so, that being said, I'm guessing you've never heard of nujabes, jurrasic 5, immortal technique, or ski beatz then?

Nujabes, with cise starr doing vocals




Here's a list of good hip-hop artists:
Nujabes
Jurassic 5
Ski beatz
DJ ezasscul
Taku
Immortal technique
14
Godsense
Hai le
Common market
Foreign exchange
Gold panda



I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/19 19:11:56


Post by: Cheesecat


Stormrider wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:
FITZZ wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
GalacticDefender wrote:Lady Gaga said Iron Maiden was her favorite band. Weird, huh?


Not really.



Quote Gene Simmons: "She's not Lady Gaga, she's really Lady Kiss. I love the vibe, the big mouth and the big visuals. She's the most exciting thing to happen since us."

Quote Slash: "The person people would probably be surprised to find that I like is Lady Gaga."

And there's lots more


Wow is Gene Simmons really that full of gak? There are tons more bands who are more exciting than KISS.


Gene Simmons IS that full of gak...but you have to look at things from his perspective .
During the 70's..a lot of "Mainstream music" was ( arguably) very dull...particularly live concerts.( Hence the punk backlash)...
KISS...in it's early years introduced an element of showmanship and theatrics into musical performance that was seldom seen prior to them.


70's mainstream music is dull? I wouldn't call Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Jethro Tull, etc boring to listen to.


They weren't really mainstream though, all of those bands got extensive Airplay on FM when AM still ruled the radio. Now they're mainstream because the mainstream music of the 70's (pop & disco) cannot hold up at all in today's world compared to those bands you listed. Black Sabbath was the red headed step child of Hard Rock, Rolling stone called their first 3 albums "trash" effectively and it was because they didn't play the game with the media, and suffered because of it. Look at Rush, they weren't mainstream until very recently and still aren't for the most part. Any "mainstream" Pink Floyd fan can name a handful of songs, a true dedicated fan can rattle off Syd Barret era music like a champ. Jethro Tull was a side act at best for a lot of people, even though they freaking rule. Deep Purple was one of the best bands of the era (along with Rainbow). BOC was the gak. KISS was cheesy but they could still make pretty decent music.

Here's one of my favorite Black Sabbath Tracks, completely and almost lost to history...almost:




I'm pretty sure most of those bands (except Rush) were pretty popular back in the 70's at least with the general public. Also mainstream has nothing to do with being critically acclaimed or fans only knowing a

handful of songs it's a word that can be used to describe a dominant, well known group (it has several definitions) which I think bands like Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, etc would have been in the 70's.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mainstream


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/19 19:34:55


Post by: Mike Noble


Cheesecat wrote:
I'm pretty sure most of those bands (except Rush) were pretty popular back in the 70's at least with the general public. Also mainstream has nothing to do with being critically acclaimed or fans only knowing a

handful of songs it's a word that can be used to describe a dominant, well known group (it has several definitions) which I think bands like Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, etc would have been in the 70's.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mainstream


Thick as a Brick, by Jethro Tull got to number 1 one the record charts. Close to the Edge, by Yes, got to 3. Rush has more consecutive Gold/Platinum than anyone other than the Beatles and the Rolling Stones.

I think it's safe to say, they were pretty big. Just because they got beat out by disposable Pop songs on the radio back then, doesn't mean they weren't popular.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/19 19:39:39


Post by: Cheesecat


Mike Noble wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:
I'm pretty sure most of those bands (except Rush) were pretty popular back in the 70's at least with the general public. Also mainstream has nothing to do with being critically acclaimed or fans only knowing a

handful of songs it's a word that can be used to describe a dominant, well known group (it has several definitions) which I think bands like Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, etc would have been in the 70's.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mainstream


Thick as a Brick, by Jethro Tull got to number 1 one the record charts. Close to the Edge, by Yes, got to 3. Rush has more consecutive Gold/Platinum than anyone other than the Beatles and the Rolling Stones.

I think it's safe to say, they were pretty big. Just because they got beat out by disposable Pop songs on the radio back then, doesn't mean they weren't popular.


Well being Canadian, I didn't know if they were popular outside their home country. Thanks for the clarification.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/22 01:09:22


Post by: Dual Face


As far as genres go, I'll listen to anything. (I do have my preferences though in Rock, Metal, and Industrial)

however, I really rarely ever listen to music pre 2000's

I have a whole theory on this... *ahem*

before the public had access to the internet, the only way to get music from an artist was to buy an album, whether it was a vinyl, cassette, or a CD. And thus the only way for artist and bands to sell was to produce a good album. You heard a single on the radio, (or saw a music video on MTV) and you liked the single. Guess what? now you went out and bought the album for that single, and from there, you now have the full album. If you didn't enjoy the album, obviously you wouldn't go out and buy another album from the same artist. If you did like the album, then you may very well consider buying the next album that artist puts out.

Now comes in the internet. Artists and bands still get their music playing on the radio and the tv. what has changed is how people get that music. (Keep in mind that I'm going to be talking about legitimate forms of downloading music such as rhapsody and itunes) No longer does anyone have to buy a full album, if you hear a song on the radio, or watch the music video on MTV, now you can just download that one song you heard and enjoyed.
here's where my theory kicks in, because people generally don't have to buy a whole album from an artist/band and can instead buy individual songs, I think that artists caught onto that and produce good singles, and not so much good albums anymore. I remember hearing a song from Paramore* and though it was cool. I borrowed the album from a friend of mine and in all honesty, I though most of the album was just sh%t. So there you go, that's my theory as best as I can explain it. Artists no longer have to produce good albums to sell, only good singles to sell. You obviously get more songs in an album than in one single, and that's about all I have to say

feel free to challenge what I said, agree with it, or comment


I probably lost some credibility for saying I listened to them...


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/22 02:15:14


Post by: scotchwiskey


Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
FITZZ wrote:
For the most part I stick with my tried and true old punk roots.


Sadly, from a technical standpoint most old punk had much less effort put into it than said bubble gum pop


I think that this is really untrue. There are a lot of early punk bands that were just like pop bands; writing songs to make them money. But the majority of early punk didn't sound like the Ramones or the Sex Pistols (like the Fall, Wire, Flipper, Pere Ubu, Wipers, Stooges, Gang of Four, Suicide, the list could go on and on).

The only good pop music came before the early 70's, before record companies turned it into a commodity to make money. For every terrible mainstream band there are two awesome underground ones (and probably 20 awful underground ones). The bad thing about music today is you really have to put time into finding the good stuff, you're not just going to hear it on the radio.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/22 03:16:03


Post by: GalacticDefender


look up "Symphonic Metal". It will open up a new world of music.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/22 03:22:36


Post by: Goliath


FITZZ wrote:
Perkustin wrote:There is plenty of good rap music at the moment, personally i am not a fan but Tyler the Creator / Odd future Wolfgang are pretty brave/unique musically and lyrically.

Plus don't be bashing Eminem, his first album is great, the lyrics are actually hilarious in a totally puerile and reprehensible way.

Oh and you haven't heard garbage music 'till you've worked in a supermarket. Their playlists are compiled by Satan himself. Suffice it to say th songs are so bad Enrique Englesias' 'escape' is IMO the pick of the bunch


I actually like the first few Eminem albums, made me chuckle quite a bit, but as far as most Rap/Hip Hop...haven't heard much that I like since the mid 90's...it all just seems a bit "cookie cutter" now.


If you're of that opinion then I would agree with Perkustin and recommend Tyler the Creator (technically the full name is Odd Future Wolfgang Kill Them All) as his stuff is, shall we say, different..


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/22 03:50:30


Post by: Stormrider


Cheesecat wrote:
Mike Noble wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:
I'm pretty sure most of those bands (except Rush) were pretty popular back in the 70's at least with the general public. Also mainstream has nothing to do with being critically acclaimed or fans only knowing a

handful of songs it's a word that can be used to describe a dominant, well known group (it has several definitions) which I think bands like Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, etc would have been in the 70's.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mainstream


Thick as a Brick, by Jethro Tull got to number 1 one the record charts. Close to the Edge, by Yes, got to 3. Rush has more consecutive Gold/Platinum than anyone other than the Beatles and the Rolling Stones.

I think it's safe to say, they were pretty big. Just because they got beat out by disposable Pop songs on the radio back then, doesn't mean they weren't popular.


Well being Canadian, I didn't know if they were popular outside their home country. Thanks for the clarification.


Anyone who likes tasteful rock music likes Rush, however, they have a couple of songs that have crept into the musical zeitgeist due to Guitar Hero. Now, I am not a huge fan of Guitar Hero, it's a fun party game, but it has also made a bunch of cool kid, poseur fans of awesome bands (like the foul abomination of a movie called "Across The Universe" made a bunch of poseur Beatles fans, they act like they've been fans for years when they had only seen the movie a few months ago and act like you're latching onto the movie, while the opposite is true, this actually happened to me) like Rush. You'll see kids try to be cool and song drop "Tom Sawyer" and "YYZ" like they've listened to every track on Moving Pictures multiple times. Bunch of bullshitters. I have every Rush Studio album and have been meaning to get all of their live albums. But some kid acts like he knows more about them just because he's heard a handful of songs. Call me after you've listened to "The Necromancer" you rookies.

Another band that get zero respect from the so called "experts" that pick Rock 'N' Roll HOF members is Grand Funk Railroad. They had their first 10 albums go Platinum, no other American band beat them too that.

/ rant

Obviously you'll have more exposure to them since you're in Canada. But here's the States, I only know a few hardcore Rush fans. They've kept their Cult Band Status quite well. There's no denying their talent and sheer awesomeness, but a lot of people don't truly know them, just a couple songs.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/22 03:54:06


Post by: Mike Noble


^But most people only know popular musicians for a few songs, that's how it is.
even the best selling bands have a much smaller fanbase that knows most of their work. Granted in some cases that's still pretty big, but, you know.

Take Genesis for example. Ask a random person to name one of their songs. I doubt many will know more than 2 or 3.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/22 03:56:03


Post by: Stormrider


Mike Noble wrote:^But most people only know popular musicians for a few songs, that's how it is.
even the best selling bands have a much smaller fanbase that knows most of their work. Granted in some cases that's still pretty big, but, you know.

Take Genesis for example. Ask a random person to name one of their songs. I doubt many will know more than 2 or 3.


Ay, you've got a point, and it's a damn sad reality.


I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music @ 2011/07/22 10:36:19


Post by: Goliath


Mike Noble wrote:^But most people only know popular musicians for a few songs, that's how it is.
even the best selling bands have a much smaller fanbase that knows most of their work. Granted in some cases that's still pretty big, but, you know.

Take Genesis for example. Ask a random person to name one of their songs. I doubt many will know more than 2 or 3.


abacab, lamb lies down on broadway, I can't dance

My parents are both massive genesis fans.