This is what I saw on one of the 40k Facebook groups:

"The rumour is GW are doing their next cgi film to be based on the Space Wolves, it will be made under codex pictures again, Now to be fair that should be interesting one can't slate the wolves like the smurfs."

Is this true or is this guy Trolling us all?

Huh..well..I'd rather watch a Space Wolves movie then Twilight, I mean a Blood Angels movie.

If he can provide a source then sure it might be true...
Otherwise it is something he may have made up... just like a certain Hrud rumour not long ago...

It may be made up, but I hope it's true, as I really enjoyed Ultramarines, but I'd reckon the Wolves'll be more character full and therefore more interesting.

Holy_doctrine wrote:Huh..well..I'd rather watch a Space Wolves movie then Twilight, I mean a Blood Angels movie.

Team Jacob is strong in you!

I would like a space wolves movie! There would be no shortage of action scenes!

No thanks. Twilight fans already have their movie wish fulfilled.

Utterly one-dimensional. How about a chapter that has a flaw? Like the Blood Angels, or Flesh Tearers, a Chapter that a wider audience would enjoy, if they want loyalist Space Marines. Night Lords for traitors. Or, how about a movie that follows a book? Soul Hunter anyone? Or an Imperial Guard movie, with properly handled humans mixed in with Space Marines in hopeless battle against the Orkz?

Hmm, I would love to see a Dark Meechanicus movie. Like that'll ever happen.

One can only dream of an Imperial Guard movie.


Whats the bets the planet they fight on is just flat ground with so much mist you cant see more than 10 feet?

No please, Space Wolves are one of the worst fluff factions this game has at this point.

Give us something akin to All Quiet on the Western Front 40k style, with Guardsmen being thrown against the forces of chaos and fighting their battlefield enemies, the corruption of the Warp, and their own uncaring superiors and monolithic bureacracy as entire worlds die.

Or, something with some actual depth, a Chaos Space Marine film in the vein of ADB's Soul Hunter/Blood Reaver books.



The loyalist marines are probably the least interesting faction to make a movie out of, and the Space Wolves would just come off as far too corny.

It would be awesome

I would hope not. I think the idea of beer chugging space vikings is going to detract from the idea that this is a grim, dark, endless war they're supposed to be fighting in. Bring the SW in when you want comic relief--being socked in the face by a dark angels marine for example.

I would also hope they go with a real company and a writer who isn't so incredibly overstated and one with a little background in actual film.

As a side note, the free fan-made Inquisitor movie is looking exceptionally good.

-sigh-

Space Wolves have great fluff, it's just obvious that those who say they don't or that they're one-dimensional are just taking what they heard from 2nd hand accounts. Read Prospero Burns, or even the Space Wolves Codex and please direct me to the page about Wolfy McWolf the Wolf.

But yeah, I'd rather see a 40k movie about someone other than Marines. If it has to be Space Marines then Wolves have my vote, but I'd much rather see a Guard movie.

Oh god I hope this isn't true.

Frankly I'd sooner see Guardsmen...

Oh boy. I'd rather see another Ultramarine movie than Wolves. :/

I get the whole moneymaking deal with popularity, but I'd wish they would show off other factions than Marines for once. Any other faction.

Andilus Greatsword wrote:Read Prospero Burns, or even the Space Wolves Codex

No thanks, I've had enough SW Marysueism in my own SoB Codex.

Seriously, three pages... Then again, the Battle of the Fang at least allows me to claim firsthand knowledge of how bad it can get.

Would rather see Ultraboys than those damn dogs.

Holy_doctrine wrote:Huh..well..I'd rather watch a Space Wolves movie then Twilight, I mean a Blood Angels movie.

Spot the difference!


Who is cooler?
You choose.

Seriously, you can make a better movie about BA.
They are more elegant and have more 'emotions'

id rather watch a chess game between 2 ogryn than a film about puppies, how about an abnett adaptation, Everyone enjoys a bit of gaunts ghosts

I want Orks, wwwaaaaaaagggh!!!!!

Also, Space Wolves would be awesome if they made them more like Space Vikings instead of cyber punks

Given the quality of the Ultramarines movie, I'd rather they just show a loop of the original DoW intro movie thrty times and burn that to a DVD. Short rendering distance, very limited number of characters on screen, and a plot that relied on the main characters having a room temperature IQ.

On a slightly less cynical note, they might do better if they made a collection of shorts, Anamatrix style, instead of doing one 60+ minute movie. Say two or three ten to fifteen minute stories for each of the Battles for Armageddon.
Por ejemplo:
I
1. First contact between daemon/WE and PDF units. Angron reveal at the end.
2. Battle a hive city, skulls for the skull throne, space marine drop at end to hold the line.
3. GK and crew against Angron.
II
1. Titans going out piecemeal against the horde.
2. Straubb's virus bombs, last second SM drop to save the day.
3. Yarrick holding the line, Orks being driven off planet.
III
1. Return of Yarrick. Orbital battle, Roks dropping. Hades flattened.
2. Submersible assaults, Straubb returns.
3. Eh, some more battles, maybe show Salamanders guarding refugees? Or was that the second war.

OK, so the plan gets vague for the second two wars, but the general point is that you tell shorter stories around the common setting of the wars on Armageddon. Gives you some sense of connection to the history (recentish) of the Imperium, lets you cover a number of major characters across multiple factions, and as a bonus, you get to reuse a lot of the backgrounds.

I agree with Fairfeldia (well, partly anyway). Although I haven't been able to watch Ultramarines (and no one seems to be able to tell me where to find it) but I would love to. I would also love to watch a movie about the Space Wolves. Pretty much any loyalist human faction except Dark Angels would make a good protagonist for a movie. I think the Traitor humans have less fertile ground there, although the Night Lords, Word Bearers, or Alpha Legion all have enough substance to provide a good film plot.

Honestly though, I would love to see a movie about an Inquisitor.

Here's the problem. (It's the same problem that Hitchhiker's Guide had.) If you make a 40k movie, you are not going to be able to make it intricately enough to satisfy the fans of the genre without making it so complex as to be completely inaccessable to mainstream audiences. If you do 'dumb it down' so that Joe Schmoe can go and see it with his girlfriend, you will alienate a significant number of the hardcore fans.

While I would love to see movie by 40k fans, for 40k fans, the fact is that we don't have enough buying power to bankroll a huge blockbuster film.

As such, I just lower my standards and am contented with whatever I get. After so many disappointments with comic book films, this has become my standard operating procedure, and I am a happier movie-goer because of it.

They should just make a Horus Hersey animated series...that would probably be the best story, and have lots of great civil war action, betrayal, murder, and change the whole universe at the end.

daveNYC wrote:On a slightly less cynical note, they might do better if they made a collection of shorts, Anamatrix style, instead of doing one 60+ minute movie.

Now this is an idea I like!

Lynata wrote:

daveNYC wrote:On a slightly less cynical note, they might do better if they made a collection of shorts, Anamatrix style, instead of doing one 60+ minute movie.

Now this is an idea I like!

Me to, especially if they are going to with good animation.

Star Wars the Clone Wars five minute shorts. I've said it before, I'll say it again, this would be the ideal medium to bring people into 40k. Just a few minutes of epic battles, in would be glorious.

If they did do shorts a la animatrix style, I'd like to see each short shot/animated in a different style. To show the different ends and outs of the universe.

Andilus Greatsword wrote:-sigh-

Space Wolves have great fluff, it's just obvious that those who say they don't or that they're one-dimensional are just taking what they heard from 2nd hand accounts. Read Prospero Burns,

Which unfortunately was not really much of a read. 400 something paged of "thread-cut", "murder make", "red snow", etc. and ridiculous stuff about how a legion of space vikings has supposedly the most ridiculous fortress in the universe but that only idiots call it "the fang" despite it being it's only name in any fluff before that. This is also the book where the Space Wolves, vanguards of the Emperor's new order of science and reason, are by far the most superstitious faction of the era, believing that they can't just kill enemies to defeat them, they have to mutilate and dismember them to truly ensure victory so their spirits or whatever know they are beaten, and hack runes of warding into everything with axes every chance they get. It was a struggle to get through that book. Abnett does great IG stuff, but between that and Brotherhood of the Snake (lol 10 tac marines butchering thousands of Dark Eldar, sending 1 marine to deal with a DE raiding party, etc), his marine books have not been stellar material.

Had ADB wrote it, it may have been better, his CSM books have been truly excellent so far, but alas, Prospero Burns was just...difficult to read through.

or even the Space Wolves Codex and please direct me to the page about Wolfy McWolf the Wolf.

Sadly, this was the book with the ridiculous stuff like firing artillery by *smell* and then breaking discipline to rush forward (exposing themselves to enemy fire) just to watch the explosions? How they let random guys just take dropships and crash them for kicks. Or Canis wolfborn, known as the wolfking wolfguard of the space wolves who rides a giant wolf wielding wolfclaws with his wolf tooth necklace and wolf tail talisman riding to war alongside dozens of Fenrisian Wolves, etc ad nauseum.

Andilus Greatsword wrote:-sigh-

Space Wolves have great fluff, it's just obvious that those who say they don't or that they're one-dimensional are just taking what they heard from 2nd hand accounts. Read Prospero Burns, or even the Space Wolves Codex and please direct me to the page about Wolfy McWolf the Wolf.

But yeah, I'd rather see a 40k movie about someone other than Marines. If it has to be Space Marines then Wolves have my vote, but I'd much rather see a Guard movie.

I'm to allowed to make my own mind up now? I've read Prospero Burns, I've read their codex, I've read Battle of the Fang, I've read A Thousand Sons. Their fluff is terrible this edition, but I must have come to that through second hand accounts, right? If you've missed the over use of the Wolf theme in their codex then I'm afraid there's something wrong.


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Crom wrote:If they did do shorts a la animatrix style, I'd like to see each short shot/animated in a different style. To show the different ends and outs of the universe.

Halo Legends would be a good thing to compare to.

Edit : Vakathi basically put in what I would have said if I could be bothered replying like that.

Well, at least if they did Wolves there'd be a reason why all the Chaos Marines have paper thin armour - Wolves not only have plot armour, but plot fire power. For no other Marine is as touch as a Wolf Marine...that doesn't trust going through the warp on teleporter...only on giant starships...uhhh?

Maybe they've got an Orc gene mixed in with there Gene-Seed? They believe they're super awesome and there weird rituals make sense, and somehow they do?

I believe it's called a Woofh-Field.

I'm going to stab out my eyes if that's true! The Ultramarines movie was bad enough and the script was horrible! What a piece of junk it was, there's better CGI in the late 90's that what they did. It looked like a bunch of high school animation... seriously. They had better do a better job if it's true.

iproxtaco wrote:Star Wars the Clone Wars five minute shorts. I've said it before, I'll say it again, this would be the ideal medium to bring people into 40k. Just a few minutes of epic battles, in would be glorious.

I would kill to have Genndy Tartakovsky do a couple of 40k shorts.

I would love to see either Animatrix-style shorts describing some epic battle, or else a Guard-oriented movie with only minor appearances by other factions (Chaos and Loyalist Marines, Inqisition, Titans, Navy). Inject more humanity and actual drama into the story, and relegate the exceptionally powerful/rare players in the galaxy to brief but impressive roles.

Ultramarines was gag-inducing and made the marines seem wooden and slowed, not to mention making the Chaos marines look pathetic and weak. If you want to make the Space Marines look epic, show them briefly from the perspective of desperate Imperial Guardsmen. Make the bulk of the movie a dark, gritty palette over which any Loyalist marines super-human actions will actually seem impressive.

Also, I actually liked Prospero Burns, but mostly because it was definitely a middle-finger to the ridiculous Space Wolves fluff. Instead of writing the obvious and expected Wolfy McWolferson and his Wolves^3 wolfing out on the Thousand Sons, he went back to the origins of the legion.

The book is hard to read because it relies a lot on archaic language, especially sentence structure, and appropriately so. It doesn't have much action but it does give a deeper look at what the Space Wolves should really be like, rather than the ridiculous caricatures in their codex. I think Prospero Burns is one of the better Horus Heresy books specifically because it avoids as many ridiculous 40k tropes as it can.

/threadjack over

I'd like to see a mix. A bigger battle with Guard and Marines fighting orks or nids. It'd be epic!

If Ultramarines is an example GW wants to follow I'd rather have Lelith on Taldeer animated action at this point.

I think the 40k franchise should concentrate on video games where it can better paint the universe with ease. Dawn of War has shown that medium can be very effective, and Space Marine should kick it up a notch.

An adventure game based on the Inquisition would be awesome

IG v. Orks IMO, maybe the battle of Armageddon between Yarrik and Ghazghkull

I think one of the problems with using Space Marines in a movie is that it makes it difficult to show the threat level of the enemies they fight. Space Marines are big, and tend to fight similarly large enemies (unless you break out a bunch of MC tyranids). Without a good frame of reference you don't get an idea of big and powerful a Space Marine is (seriously, in Ultramarines, all you saw were Astartes, they never brought home the fact that these guys are eight feet tall). A bunch of puny human IG fighting a wave of orks/tyranids/CSM is much more visually striking because you know the guard are regular humans, so their fragility and the size and power of the xenos really comes through.

A Ordo Xenos team with some Deathwatch along would allow them to show off the size and power of a Space Marine.

Could GW give Obsidion some cash to have them hack together an Inquisitor stranded on a backwater small mining colony planet scenario using the Fallout 3 engine? Ordo Hereticus dude comes in for routine investigation, shuttle gets knocked out of air so rest of the team is dead and the Inquisitor needs to sort things out from there. Heck, Fallout: New Vegas already has grenade rifles, plasma and las weapons, chainswords and powerfists, and even power armor.

I would like to see a Full Metal Jacket-esque Guard movie.

Skycrawler wrote:I would like to see a Full Metal Jacket-esque Guard movie.

so catachans ?

Yeah. Them or Valhallans.

id love a valhalan or voystron film with russian language and english subs

I'd love a Guard movie in the vien of Black Hawk Down, albeit on a larger scale. With Brad Pitt involved in a 10 minute torture sequence where his annoying fething eyes are shoved up his own ass by Lelith Hesperax. Irritating little crap.

Anything but space wolves. Less dimension than even the smurfs, IMHO. I agree with Skycrawler, FMA-esque Imperial guard movie, possibly against orks, possibly not.

Wolves are apparently better than all the other marines. At everything. Ever. I don't like this.

God only knows how opinions can spark hate.

If it aint 18+ Cert. then it aint Space Wolves.

TrollPie wrote:I'd love a Guard movie in the vien of Black Hawk Down, albeit on a larger scale. With Brad Pitt involved in a 10 minute torture sequence where his annoying fething eyes are shoved up his own ass by Lelith Hesperax. Irritating little crap.

Except with your average guard unit it'd be less 'leave no man behind' and more 'use them to lure the enemy in and then bust out the earthshaker rounds'.

Avatar 720 wrote:If it aint 18+ Cert. then it aint Space Wolves.

this should apply to all forces, CGI or not, when your hit with a chainsword, there will be blood

daveNYC wrote:

TrollPie wrote:I'd love a Guard movie in the vien of Black Hawk Down, albeit on a larger scale. With Brad Pitt involved in a 10 minute torture sequence where his annoying fething eyes are shoved up his own ass by Lelith Hesperax. Irritating little crap.

Except with your average guard unit it'd be less 'leave no man behind' and more 'use them to lure the enemy in and then bust out the earthshaker rounds'.

Not every commander is Chenkov you know.

Trollpie ahs a point, Chenkov is famous for sending 10 million gaurdsmen to their deaths instead of using heavy armor, some commanders actually care for their troops, Slado, Oktar, Gaunt, bastonne, alraheim

iproxtaco wrote:No thanks. Twilight fans already have their movie wish fulfilled.

Utterly one-dimensional. How about a chapter that has a flaw? Like the Blood Angels, or Flesh Tearers, a Chapter that a wider audience would enjoy, if they want loyalist Space Marines. Night Lords for traitors. Or, how about a movie that follows a book? Soul Hunter anyone? Or an Imperial Guard movie, with properly handled humans mixed in with Space Marines in hopeless battle against the Orkz?

Oh, because space marines who mutate into werewolves and have distended jaws and fangs aren't flawed? And you were complaining about one-dimensional, and then mentioned guard fighting orks -_- then most common, predictable type of battle in the 41st millenium. `orks come, guard holds out for backup`

It HAS to be sm vs. Xenos, it HAS to be a loyalist chapter (so they can yell FOR THE EMPRAH) and it is definitely going to be either first founding or second founding marines.

I hope it has a bigger budget than the last one, since the last one was short, predictable and with fairly poor animation (all the motions looked choppy)

I am afraid that an IG movie would turn out too much like a WWII movie with futuristic weapons. Wolves would be better thans smurfs...I don't like smurfs at all. How about a BT crusade...Ophidium Gulf to throw in some DA and heretics? Basis is already there and they don't have to make up the general storyline or they could answer where it is...

Akroma06 wrote: How about a BT crusade...

This is a great idea
Just give them some Tau, Tyranids, Necrons and Eldar and they are all set

im2randomghgh wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:No thanks. Twilight fans already have their movie wish fulfilled.

Utterly one-dimensional. How about a chapter that has a flaw? Like the Blood Angels, or Flesh Tearers, a Chapter that a wider audience would enjoy, if they want loyalist Space Marines. Night Lords for traitors. Or, how about a movie that follows a book? Soul Hunter anyone? Or an Imperial Guard movie, with properly handled humans mixed in with Space Marines in hopeless battle against the Orkz?

Oh, because space marines who mutate into werewolves and have distended jaws and fangs aren't flawed? And you were complaining about one-dimensional, and then mentioned guard fighting orks -_- then most common, predictable type of battle in the 41st millenium. `orks come, guard holds out for backup`

It HAS to be sm vs. Xenos, it HAS to be a loyalist chapter (so they can yell FOR THE EMPRAH) and it is definitely going to be either first founding or second founding marines.

I hope it has a bigger budget than the last one, since the last one was short, predictable and with fairly poor animation (all the motions looked choppy)

Except SM don't show the universe off very well. When you have 10 super men, massacring thousands of Xenos each while jumping around screaming, it doesn't scream grimdark. Millions of Guardsmen fighting a hopeless war, losing thousands of their own men and being insignificant in the grand scheme of things-no matter how much the audience likes the characters-shows 40k for what it is: a dystopic hellhole where life is cheap. Space Marines don't show that. Space Marine Werewolves with silly names are even worse.
A story where the audience can relate to and care about the main characters makes a good film a great film. A story where things go boom, blood apears and ass gets kicked is good for a few laughs, but won't have any lasting appeal unless there's something more.

im2randomghgh wrote:Oh, because space marines who mutate into werewolves and have distended jaws and fangs aren't flawed?

Actually, whilst certainly considered a flaw in the setting itself (by non-Wolves at least), it does strike me as being the exact opposite for the community. And a "defect" that has this effect isn't a flaw but an alibi.

It's a bit like the "vampire curse" in Twilight which is supposedly oh-so-dramatic but only ends up getting little girls cry tears over how "cool" the main character is.

For something to be a flaw, it has to be portrayed and understood as such. When the Inquisition would actually make a move against the Wolves because of this mutation, then it'd be a flaw. If the Wolves would regularly end up eating innocent civilians due to werewolf instincts, then it'd be a flaw. What do we get instead? Space bikers that get to hang around with chicks, have ale for blood and are apparently the most awesome force of the Imperium. That's actually my biggest gripe with their style: their "flaw" ends up negating the one true (narrative) flaw of what it means to be a Space Marine - the indoctrination and single-purpose monastic existence of a supersoldier bred only for doing one thing: fighting the enemy of the state. The SW are completely robbed of this grimdark aspect. But that's why their fans love them, I suppose. For some they are different, for others they are special snowflakes. It's just a matter of preferences ("how grimdark do you like your 40k") that defines on which corner one is standing regarding this question.

At the very core, the idea of a viking Chapter is quite cool. But they just had to go over the top with them.

Apologies, the above isn't supposed to turn the topic into a rant-thread, but I felt like this had to be mentioned to explain the different perceptions that exist regarding this army, or rather their (personally) presumed origins. :I

I just don't see a 40k movie based around anything but marines being successful.

Deathwatch would be compared to Alien.
IG would be compared to Starship Troopers or Private Ryan.
Xenos the audience just won't relate.

Tell the Horus Heresy tale or test the waters with a mindless action movie with a couple big names. But it has to be Marines. And it will likely have to be against Chaos or Orks.

Nvs wrote:I just don't see a 40k movie based around anything but marines being successful.

Deathwatch would be compared to Alien.
IG would be compared to Starship Troopers or Private Ryan.
Xenos the audience just won't relate.

Tell the Horus Heresy tale or test the waters with a mindless action movie with a couple big names. But it has to be Marines. And it will likely have to be against Chaos or Orks.

Everything will be compared to everything. Hell, Space Marines will be compared with starship troops just as much as IG will, moreso if you look at the book. Marines would just be generic action movie, but with big armor.

daveNYC wrote:Given the quality of the Ultramarines movie, I'd rather they just show a loop of the original DoW intro movie thrty times and burn that to a DVD. Short rendering distance, very limited number of characters on screen, and a plot that relied on the main characters having a room temperature IQ.

On a slightly less cynical note, they might do better if they made a collection of shorts, Anamatrix style, instead of doing one 60+ minute movie. Say two or three ten to fifteen minute stories for each of the Battles for Armageddon.
Por ejemplo:
I
1. First contact between daemon/WE and PDF units. Angron reveal at the end.
2. Battle a hive city, skulls for the skull throne, space marine drop at end to hold the line.
3. GK and crew against Angron.
II
1. Titans going out piecemeal against the horde.
2. Straubb's virus bombs, last second SM drop to save the day.
3. Yarrick holding the line, Orks being driven off planet.
III
1. Return of Yarrick. Orbital battle, Roks dropping. Hades flattened.
2. Submersible assaults, Straubb returns.
3. Eh, some more battles, maybe show Salamanders guarding refugees? Or was that the second war.

OK, so the plan gets vague for the second two wars, but the general point is that you tell shorter stories around the common setting of the wars on Armageddon. Gives you some sense of connection to the history (recentish) of the Imperium, lets you cover a number of major characters across multiple factions, and as a bonus, you get to reuse a lot of the backgrounds.

I like this.

TrollPie wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:No thanks. Twilight fans already have their movie wish fulfilled.

Utterly one-dimensional. How about a chapter that has a flaw? Like the Blood Angels, or Flesh Tearers, a Chapter that a wider audience would enjoy, if they want loyalist Space Marines. Night Lords for traitors. Or, how about a movie that follows a book? Soul Hunter anyone? Or an Imperial Guard movie, with properly handled humans mixed in with Space Marines in hopeless battle against the Orkz?

Oh, because space marines who mutate into werewolves and have distended jaws and fangs aren't flawed? And you were complaining about one-dimensional, and then mentioned guard fighting orks -_- then most common, predictable type of battle in the 41st millenium. `orks come, guard holds out for backup`

It HAS to be sm vs. Xenos, it HAS to be a loyalist chapter (so they can yell FOR THE EMPRAH) and it is definitely going to be either first founding or second founding marines.

I hope it has a bigger budget than the last one, since the last one was short, predictable and with fairly poor animation (all the motions looked choppy)

Except SM don't show the universe off very well. When you have 10 super men, massacring thousands of Xenos each while jumping around screaming, it doesn't scream grimdark. Millions of Guardsmen fighting a hopeless war, losing thousands of their own men and being insignificant in the grand scheme of things-no matter how much the audience likes the characters-shows 40k for what it is: a dystopic hellhole where life is cheap. Space Marines don't show that. Space Marine Werewolves with silly names are even worse.
A story where the audience can relate to and care about the main characters makes a good film a great film. A story where things go boom, blood apears and ass gets kicked is good for a few laughs, but won't have any lasting appeal unless there's something more.

I said "HAS to sm" because GW absolutely refuses to show anything else. And it shows grimdark pretty well because they are fierce and disciplined and ALWAYS outnumbered. Because really, how lame would a battle where SMs outnumber everything be?

Also, saying their names are silly is racist, because they (for the most part) have legitimate nordic names. "Bjorn, what a silly name, because there are only THOUSANDS of people in the world with that name, and I don't know any of them"


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Also, they should probably be adapting some of their books into movies instead of coming up with see-through plots.

I really wonder how many times the voice actor had to go through the recording of the opening for that Ultramarines movie and not blow it with "who writes this crap..."
"the space marines and the best of these is the Ultramarines... who writes this pap... thats the best name they could come up with... CUT! ok cue it up for take 75...."

If someone makes another 40k movie I would hope it would involve unit names that would be taken seriously by outsiders and not garner an instant eye roll.

Also touching on the comments earlier in this thread...

Imperial guard all the way. The story could follow a. Young commissar in a begining clip where he's forced to execute a sergeant to rally the troops and push though an orc horde, perhaps cameos by yarrick and the battle of armageddon, who personally commends the young commissar for his bravery amd has him transfered to a platoon command unit on another world fighting tyranids. Once he arrives he realizes the olatoon commander Is a child hood friend who is fighting with limited resources yatta yatta fight for survival, while trying to keep their honor for the emperor and have their past conflict their judgements.

Oh man this has tons of human drama and destruction and war written all over It !! Lmao.. but seriously.. cool eh?

Edit: marine reinforcements could come in the end. I mean all in all marines kicking ass is awesome regardless and would be a cool ending on a movie centered around normal humans.

The Horus Heresy would be a fantastic way to really pull in audiences. It is a great story, classically inspired by archetype themes (and religious ones), so most people can easily pick up on it. It can be many episodes, expanding the universe, introducing orks, xenos, nids, along the way as the Imperium struggles with civil war. Develop characters that plot, back stab and betray, and characters that play both sides so they can favor whoever wins. Then of course you have the good versus evil theme. Slowly introduce the Warp and the realms and creatures of Chaos. So back stories of whole marine chapters betraying the Emperor for power.

Hell, tell histories of major characters in flash backs, and their relations. Have a very dark, Gothic, almost dystopian feel to it.

I mean I think that is the best place to start. Great story, great theme, and it can introduce everyone into the 40K universe with possibilities of spin offs after the series ends.

Yeah, right..


After the last one sold so well and was so welcomed and adored by critics and fans alike, they should do a docu-drama on the life cycle of the Ork fungus.

If they do another movie, at least go for more variation than Space Marines vs Spikey Space Marines.

There's plenty of big battles against Xenos they can make some good action movies out of that would be more interesting tham, yet again, armoured mans fighting armoured mans.

If it were Battle for Macragge, I'd be preordering as soon as it was available.

I like the Horus Heresy idea. Definently add some background plus it would use alot of good archtypes...betray, religion, war, families being ripped apart by said war.

An IG movie would do so much more to make the SM the actual space bad asses that they're supposed to be. What seems more impressive, following a group of guys in armor who kill stuff, or following normal humans as they struggle through the hell of war in which they are hopelessly outmatched, and suddenly, the drop pods come hurdling down, out pour marines in pristine armor, doing in moments what guards might do in hours? I feel that the marines shouldn't be the focus, but should be the big damn heroes that save the day.

and then all of us IG players can say "Dammed Astartes, always stealing the glory"

im2randomghgh wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:No thanks. Twilight fans already have their movie wish fulfilled.

Utterly one-dimensional. How about a chapter that has a flaw? Like the Blood Angels, or Flesh Tearers, a Chapter that a wider audience would enjoy, if they want loyalist Space Marines. Night Lords for traitors. Or, how about a movie that follows a book? Soul Hunter anyone? Or an Imperial Guard movie, with properly handled humans mixed in with Space Marines in hopeless battle against the Orkz?

Oh, because space marines who mutate into werewolves and have distended jaws and fangs aren't flawed? And you were complaining about one-dimensional, and then mentioned guard fighting orks -_- then most common, predictable type of battle in the 41st millenium. `orks come, guard holds out for backup`

It HAS to be sm vs. Xenos, it HAS to be a loyalist chapter (so they can yell FOR THE EMPRAH) and it is definitely going to be either first founding or second founding marines.

I hope it has a bigger budget than the last one, since the last one was short, predictable and with fairly poor animation (all the motions looked choppy)

Here's a little bit of clarification. Space Wolves aren't flawed like the Blood Angels or Flesh Tearers, not even close. Both of these chapters are struggling to do their duty against their affliction, the Black Rage and Red Thirst. Whilst the Blood Angels are proud and noble, their successor is a bunch of blood craving lunatics that kill either friend of foe, with a Chapter Master who is fighting valiantly to keep his Chapter together. There's none of that hopelessness with the Space Wolves. Their Werewolf affliction isn't anywhere near as prevalent or problematic as the Black Rage or Red Thirst. Currently, they're a bunch of wolf obsessed anti-establishment savages, who kill first and ask questions later. They're your typical action hero, so to speak, you don't want them in a movie with any depth or actual quality.
There's a wealth of books about the 40k universe. Why not use them as a base? Soul Hunter is a book I recently enjoyed, I think it would make a great movie, centering around the bitterness of the Night Lords, their quest for vengeance and their hopeless situation. Even then, they're still Marines, and unless given proper development, interaction with non-humans and other Astartes, and some out of battle screen time, they're utterly one-dimensional, no one can relate to a Super Human God without any worries, fears or ordinary feelings. This is where the Guard step in. It's obvious that people want War to be the central theme, without it I would think that 40k would be boring as hell. So, plonk an Imperial Guard regiment, taken from their home planet, given months of rigorous training a la Full Metal Jacket, which as already been mentioned, and them put them in a hopeless situation against Chaos, where the alternative, of an eternity of service to thankless masters, can be seen. Emphasize the grimdark, but portray the Space Marines from the human perspective, having them accomplish mighty deeds a normal human can only dream of. Or pit the Guard against Orkz in a similar situation, highlighting the threat that the Xenos plays in 40k. It doesn't have to be solely about Space Marines, because that's just boring, frankly. Space Marines should feature, but never be the center of attention in a film where there's so little time to expand their character. In a series of short films, it might me doable.

IMHO it really doesnt matter who, or what you right about, in regards to your protagonist/antagonist.

what you need are High quality models, a good render engine, people that know what they are doing when dealing with human models, and a great story line.

get the High Lord Inquisitor guy some money for putting together a great product (something he is already doing for free) bring in some Modeleers/animators that will show the environment for 40k and then do 10 min shorts (similar to Cartoon Networks first iteration of the Clone Wars by Genndy Tartakovsky) get the Sci-Fi channel to pick it up for peanuts and watch the money roll in.

If you get the same company that released a crappy product the first time, what makes GW think they are going to release a quality product the second time?

It's odd that noon want to see SoB in movie?
How cool it would be to see sexy female warriors in blood-thirsty action?

Very uncool.

Said by you.
I am sure there are at least 100 people on Dakka who would want to see Sisters in 40k movie.

Yes, but not overly sexualized and blood thirsty like you suggested.

Also I think the Sisters Of Battle movie would have them being slaughtered left and right :(

I was joking
Sisters aren't that bloody when they barely ever fight in melee ( except Cannones and Repentia ).
But it would be cool to see female warriors, we will see how good is that in "Space Marine" were we have female Guardsman.


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ShatteredBlade wrote:Also I think the Sisters Of Battle movie would have them being slaughtered left and right :(

Only if ( I am not allowed anymore to speak his name ) write the script. I am sure good old Dan will have something for us...

Mat Ward isn't the only one to have written about the slaughter of Sisters of Battle. Plenty of other authors have done far worse.

You are right, GW hates them to. Reason more for me to like them

It just seems to me that whenever GW wants a villain to be bad mofo's ( Or apparently their hero sometimes) they slaughter the Sisters of battle to show them as a real threat.

What happend to Ultramarines site?
I mean the countdown

sshnuke wrote:What happend to Ultramarines site?
I mean the countdown

It probably ended when the movie came out last December IIRC.

coolyo294 wrote:

sshnuke wrote:What happend to Ultramarines site?
I mean the countdown

It probably ended when the movie came out last December IIRC.

But now there is another one, which will end after 18 hours

Brother Coa wrote:Sisters aren't that bloody when they barely ever fight in melee ( except Cannones and Repentia ).

Seraphim get into close combat fairly often - according to their fluff, anyways. The rest just depends on narrative circumstances, see Guardsmen in CC. You don't have to charge by yourself to get drawn into a melee, after all.

Still, the only ones I'd actually trust to write a script for an SoB movie would be Gav Thorpe and Andy Hoare. Maybe James Swallow, too, based simply on the one fact that he's the only author ever to write a novel that got them right.

At the end of the day, though, Sisters simply aren't popular enough, hence why nobody bothered to mention them until now. Marines are the cashcow, so I suppose we will continue to see Marine movies and Marine computer games in the decades to come. Anything else simply isn't realistic. I only hope that other factions will at least be able to get a small piece of the leftovers ... be it with expansions to the various computer games, or by guest appearances in the movies. Of course the latter may likely end up twisting whatever army gets featured this way, in order to portray the Astartes in an even more heroic and "epic" light, so we'd just replicate the effect we already have in various novels.

Actually, thinking about it makes me unsure if I want even just that.

I'd gladly take SoB as an expansion for DoW3 again, though.

I'm hoping that if the rumor IS true, that we'll finally get a solid answer as to whether Space Wolves are... shall we say, less than a full man.

Preferably with an Eldar babe. ^_^ Mmm, elves...

Totally not creepy.

Pouncey wrote:I'm hoping that if the rumor IS true, that we'll finally get a solid answer as to whether Space Wolves are... shall we say, less than a full man.

Preferably with an Eldar babe. ^_^ Mmm, elves...

Totally not creepy.

My mind! It burnsssss!

coolyo294 wrote:

Pouncey wrote:I'm hoping that if the rumor IS true, that we'll finally get a solid answer as to whether Space Wolves are... shall we say, less than a full man.

Preferably with an Eldar babe. ^_^ Mmm, elves...

Totally not creepy.

My mind! It burnsssss!

Then my job here is done.

I would also excuse bad cinematics if the story line was good.
I did enjoy Ultramarines: the movie. Even if I'm a hater of Rowboat Girlyman's village people. It was the first step into a direction that could provide us with better entertainment in the future.
Having said that, several changes need to be made:
Space Marines don't age like normal men!
Power armour isn't similar to flak armour!
Chaos got guns too! Not just chainswords!!!!

I will also add that I'm not in favour of a SW movie as I share the same sentiment that it would detract from the Grimdarkness that I so dearly enjoy!

Rather some last stand by some poor, forgotten, sorry-sods from some random IG platoon. Great possibilities for some character developement, very Grimdark and a story that should appeal to most fans and regular people.

Just my 2cents...

Toastedandy wrote:One can only dream of an Imperial Guard movie.


Whats the bets the planet they fight on is just flat ground with so much mist you cant see more than 10 feet?

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


Star Ship Troopers?

Bring on the terminators! Deathwing would be an obvious choice.

ShatteredBlade wrote:Also I think the Sisters Of Battle movie would have them being slaughtered left and right :(

Mmhm. That would be very sad. The Chaos Cultists should hug them instead, until they pass out from all the luffs. And then, and then, they should drag them away to a nice, comfy place for more nice hugs once they wake up. ^_^

And then comes the Sisters of Battle's armored heels to their loins. And I will laugh and then cringe as I imagine the pain that would cause.

I was understandably a bit upset when I saw that Dreadnought in the DoW2 trailer, grab a Banshee and use a flamer on her at short range. It was sad. Also, the ending parts of Faith and Fire were sad too. Strangely it doesn't affect me as much when men are getting slaughtered, but it does when women die or get badly hurt.

: ( My emotions are sexist...

What I don't get, is why are the XBOX and PC games cut scenes far better composed than the movie?

Pouncey wrote:

ShatteredBlade wrote:Also I think the Sisters Of Battle movie would have them being slaughtered left and right :(

I was understandably a bit upset when I saw that Dreadnought in the DoW2 trailer, grab a Banshee and use a flamer on her at short range. It was sad. Also, the ending parts of Faith and Fire were sad too. Strangely it doesn't affect me as much when men are getting slaughtered, but it does when women die or get badly hurt.

: ( My emotions are sexist...

I feel the same, I can't stand things like that. I can't even play Halo Reach sometimes because the way female characters scream when I assasinate them. Having sisters slaughtered would really damper my fealings towards a 40k movie involving them. I think it that might actually even repel people from 40k.

Pouncey wrote:

ShatteredBlade wrote:Also I think the Sisters Of Battle movie would have them being slaughtered left and right :(

Mmhm. That would be very sad. The Chaos Cultists should hug them instead, until they pass out from all the luffs. And then, and then, they should drag them away to a nice, comfy place for more nice hugs once they wake up. ^_^

And then comes the Sisters of Battle's armored heels to their loins. And I will laugh and then cringe as I imagine the pain that would cause.

I was understandably a bit upset when I saw that Dreadnought in the DoW2 trailer, grab a Banshee and use a flamer on her at short range. It was sad. Also, the ending parts of Faith and Fire were sad too. Strangely it doesn't affect me as much when men are getting slaughtered, but it does when women die or get badly hurt.

: ( My emotions are sexist...

Still I would like to see Sisters, movies showed us that man like stong women ( Resident Evil for example ).

The best things they could do are all the things they never will do. Ditch the Space Marines. Ditch the animation. Get an actual movie studio onboard.

A 40k movie would work so much better if it was live-action and about characters that actually have CHARACTER. Seriously, they have plenty of Black Library books to choose from that would make great live-action movies. Gaunt's Ghosts? Eisenhorn?....Actually those are the only ones I can think of now that would work really well, but they would work SO amazingly!

A 40k movie with Imperium would be wavy to dramatic (at leats they would TRY), and be full of 'grim dark' things.

An movie about Orks, however would be full off...

... Green! Green is good!
... Meks! Meks, well, happy Orks are good Orks, arent they?
... Real good fighting!
... Humour? No. Good thinking.

Brother Coa wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

ShatteredBlade wrote:Also I think the Sisters Of Battle movie would have them being slaughtered left and right :(

Mmhm. That would be very sad. The Chaos Cultists should hug them instead, until they pass out from all the luffs. And then, and then, they should drag them away to a nice, comfy place for more nice hugs once they wake up. ^_^

And then comes the Sisters of Battle's armored heels to their loins. And I will laugh and then cringe as I imagine the pain that would cause.

I was understandably a bit upset when I saw that Dreadnought in the DoW2 trailer, grab a Banshee and use a flamer on her at short range. It was sad. Also, the ending parts of Faith and Fire were sad too. Strangely it doesn't affect me as much when men are getting slaughtered, but it does when women die or get badly hurt.

: ( My emotions are sexist...

Still I would like to see Sisters, movies showed us that man like stong women ( Resident Evil for example ).

Mmm, that's true. Strong women are very nice. ^_^

Just so long as they aren't slaughtered senselessly. They're supposed to have great skills, so seeing them get killed off en masse by a horde of cultists with laspistols would be a bit, "WTF?"

Fairfeldia wrote:id rather watch a chess game between 2 ogryn than a film about puppies, how about an abnett adaptation, Everyone enjoys a bit of gaunts ghosts

OH GOD YES.

I would love to see an Eisenhorn or Ravenor movie. Inquisition would be awesome. Just make sure there's no Spass Marines.... Or Grey Knights for that matter...

Pouncey wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

ShatteredBlade wrote:Also I think the Sisters Of Battle movie would have them being slaughtered left and right :(

Mmhm. That would be very sad. The Chaos Cultists should hug them instead, until they pass out from all the luffs. And then, and then, they should drag them away to a nice, comfy place for more nice hugs once they wake up. ^_^

And then comes the Sisters of Battle's armored heels to their loins. And I will laugh and then cringe as I imagine the pain that would cause.

I was understandably a bit upset when I saw that Dreadnought in the DoW2 trailer, grab a Banshee and use a flamer on her at short range. It was sad. Also, the ending parts of Faith and Fire were sad too. Strangely it doesn't affect me as much when men are getting slaughtered, but it does when women die or get badly hurt.

: ( My emotions are sexist...

Still I would like to see Sisters, movies showed us that man like stong women ( Resident Evil for example ).

Mmm, that's true. Strong women are very nice. ^_^

Just so long as they aren't slaughtered senselessly. They're supposed to have great skills, so seeing them get killed off en masse by a horde of cultists with laspistols would be a bit, "WTF?"

But said SoB move would never be for mass consumption. SO MUCH CATHOLIC OVERTONES!

And Pouncy, I am assuming your a guy, so your reaction to killing women is actually a natural male response. Men have a hard time with women dieing, more so then watching men die. Hence why women are not front line combatants in most modern militarily.

Happygrunt wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

ShatteredBlade wrote:Also I think the Sisters Of Battle movie would have them being slaughtered left and right :(

Mmhm. That would be very sad. The Chaos Cultists should hug them instead, until they pass out from all the luffs. And then, and then, they should drag them away to a nice, comfy place for more nice hugs once they wake up. ^_^

And then comes the Sisters of Battle's armored heels to their loins. And I will laugh and then cringe as I imagine the pain that would cause.

I was understandably a bit upset when I saw that Dreadnought in the DoW2 trailer, grab a Banshee and use a flamer on her at short range. It was sad. Also, the ending parts of Faith and Fire were sad too. Strangely it doesn't affect me as much when men are getting slaughtered, but it does when women die or get badly hurt.

: ( My emotions are sexist...

Still I would like to see Sisters, movies showed us that man like stong women ( Resident Evil for example ).

Mmm, that's true. Strong women are very nice. ^_^

Just so long as they aren't slaughtered senselessly. They're supposed to have great skills, so seeing them get killed off en masse by a horde of cultists with laspistols would be a bit, "WTF?"

But said SoB move would never be for mass consumption. SO MUCH CATHOLIC OVERTONES!

And Pouncy, I am assuming your a guy, so your reaction to killing women is actually a natural male response. Men have a hard time with women dieing, more so then watching men die. Hence why women are not front line combatants in most modern militarily.

Yay! I'm finally doing something normal! : D

Happygrunt wrote:

But said SoB move would never be for mass consumption. SO MUCH CATHOLIC OVERTONES!

And Pouncy, I am assuming your a guy, so your reaction to killing women is actually a natural male response. Men have a hard time with women dieing, more so then watching men die. Hence why women are not front line combatants in most modern militarily.

Still, every movie needs a woman character to succeed, like Avatar and Navi girl...
In the universe like that the only option for this would be: Eldar, SoB, Inquisitor Lord, Tau and Guardswoman.

Eldar and Tau would get slaughtered.
Guardswoman to ( or she would be saved and pretty much uselles the whole move ).
Only SoB and Inquisitor lord remains, and since woman in moves usually means to have compashined side = SoB for the win. ( Inquisitor Lord female would just Exterminate whole world ).

SoB would be nice tough to the move, they are faithful, compassionate and strong. And it is true, men are always hit hard when female dies ( unlike GW writers ). But they would be an excellent addition to the move, I know it. And I think if the rumors are true that the wolves woul fight alongside ones for sure...

If it follows the fluff then no.

I couldn't agree more on that iproxtaco, I couldn't agree more...

Brother Coa wrote:Still, every movie needs a woman character to succeed, like Avatar and Navi girl...

I'm ... not sure that this example is a fitting comparison to a Sister Militant.

We are talking about fanatical zealots who live only to fight and die for the Emperor, spending what little spare time they have with prayer and self-chastisement and not hesitating to kill unarmed men, women and children when they feel it necessary as per the Creed they were indoctrinated with. Compassionate? In some way, perhaps - but rendering her a female sidekick just for the sake to add boobs and romance (seriously?) to a movie feels like doing this faction an extreme and rather sexist disservice. If you want a Sister of Battle, take her for what she is - a holy warrior like Jeanne d'Arc.

If you just want a weaker (not weak! still strong, but weaker than the male main protagonist) woman to provide eye candy and fulfill the male fantasy of "owning" a beautiful woman that requires the male hero's protection, the Guardswoman sounds like the better idea. At least that wouldn't violate any fluff.

Maybe I'm jumping the gun and have misunderstood you here (if so I apologise!), but those were my thoughts as conjured by the last few posts. Sisters have just as much a right to "die senselessly" as men. Their whole point is to be equals, so why insist on a supposed difference that has only resulted out of centuries of cultural and religious oppression against the "fairer" sex? If they get treated differently just because of gender, I don't think they should be brought into a medium at all, for it will only twist their true nature.

Brother Coa wrote:And I think if the rumors are true that the wolves woul fight alongside ones for sure...

After having slaughtered an undisclosed number of Sisters on Fenris and generally cultivating an image of heretical mutants, I think such feelings might not be mutual.

Lynata wrote:I'm ... not sure that this example is a fitting comparison to a Sister Militant.

We are talking about fanatical zealots who live only to fight and die for the Emperor, spending what little spare time they have with prayer and self-chastisement and not hesitating to kill unarmed men, women and children when they feel it necessary as per the Creed they were indoctrinated with. Compassionate? In some way, perhaps - but rendering her a female sidekick just for the sake to add boobs and romance (seriously?) to a movie feels like doing this faction an extreme and rather sexist disservice. If you want a Sister of Battle, take her for what she is - a holy warrior like Jeanne d'Arc.

If you just want a weaker (not weak! still strong, but weaker than the male main protagonist) woman to provide eye candy and fulfill the male fantasy of "owning" a beautiful woman that requires the male hero's protection, the Guardswoman sounds like the better idea. At least that wouldn't violate any fluff.

Maybe I'm jumping the gun and have misunderstood you here (if so I apologise!), but those were my thoughts as conjured by the last few posts. Sisters have just as much a right to "die senselessly" as men. Their whole point is to be equals, so why insist on a supposed difference that has only resulted out of centuries of cultural and religious oppression against the "fairer" sex? If they get treated differently just because of gender, I don't think they should be brought into a medium at all, for it will only twist their true nature.

Why everyone must think on sex when they see female on screen. My point is that they are beautiful ( I haven't see ugly Sister thus far ), strong, and zealous. And that is the character that public love. I didn't implement sex, but just that they put some females into movie to look good. I only implemented at Navi how people love that female more than any other - because she was a female. And that only add to the reputation of that race, same effect will have Imperials after people see Sisters. And I think that they will like them because of their role as warriors of faith in a universe full of faithless.

Brother Coa wrote:And I think if the rumors are true that the wolves woul fight alongside ones for sure...

After having slaughtered an undisclosed number of Sisters on Fenris and generally cultivating an image of heretical mutants, I think such feelings might not be mutual.

I like the idea of mutiple shorts acually, and should include one of da orkz! Maybe the story of Tuska The Damon killa! that one was my favorite

Brother Coa wrote:Why everyone must think on sex when they see female on screen. My point is that they are beautiful ( I haven't see ugly Sister thus far ), strong, and zealous. And that is the character that public love. I didn't implement sex, but just that they put some females into movie to look good.

It doesn't have to be sex. As long as a character is judged primarily on looks (which happens when the character is implemented for that very reason), I think it detracts from other aspects of their background and basically objectifies them. There's absolutely nothing wrong with good looks as a side effect (we are talking about movies, after all), I'm just saying that this is a very thin line that is very often crossed and ends up with the girl being pushed into a role defined solely by gender and cliché as favoured by the target audience, rather than respecting their actual background.

I'm not saying they couldn't get it right - if they'd look for independent-minded characters such as Aliens' Vasquez, or the real world Jeanne d'Arc (who had a lot of influence on the design process of the Sisters Militant) for inspiration. I just don't really have the confidence that they would - instead falling back into the above-mentioned molds exactly because the producers would aim to please a primarily male audience. Of course it'd depend on who would make such a movie, but given how the Sisters were treated in various thankfully non-canon Black Library novels, I really wouldn't expect any miracles there. :(

Brother Coa wrote:But overall Wolves are the good guys, and they fought with Sisters many times. That incident was a mistake, and we all regret that happened but in times of need old enemies must forget themselves and fight together for the grater good.

How was that incident a mistake? I'm sure that the Wolves were fully aware that they'd evoke a rather unpleasant reaction from the Ecclesiarchy when they kill their clergy, they just did not care (which admittedly fits their mindset as it has been propagated for years).
I'm not aware of any battle in GW canon where Sisters and SW would have fought side by side (though even if there were one, I'd suspect that this little skirmish destroyed what little relation they had).

I also wouldn't exactly call Space Wolves "good guys". They're more like a loose cannon - but thankfully still pointed at the enemies of the Emperor. Most of the time, anyways.

If the movie really ends up being about SW, I hope that they at least respect that Chapter's rather unsavory history concerning other Imperial factions and only let Fenrisian troops fight by their side. This way, I'm sure they could even second a couple beautiful, yet strong females to the SW, if they just go with the idea of "viking shieldmaidens", who are then free to accompany and adore their mighty Astartes protectors as sidekicks without destroying any reputation. It would probably end up a little like the Conan movies, just with lots of snow.

Lynata wrote:How was that incident a mistake? I'm sure that the Wolves were fully aware that they'd evoke a rather unpleasant reaction from the Ecclesiarchy when they kill their clergy, they just did not care (which admittedly fits their mindset as it has been propagated for years).
I'm not aware of any battle in GW canon where Sisters and SW would have fought side by side (though even if there were one, I'd suspect that this little skirmish destroyed what little relation they had).

I also wouldn't exactly call Space Wolves "good guys". They're more like a loose cannon - but thankfully still pointed at the enemies of the Emperor. Most of the time, anyways.

If the movie really ends up being about SW, I hope that they at least respect that Chapter's rather unsavory history concerning other Imperial factions and only let Fenrisian troops fight by their side. This way, I'm sure they could even second a couple beautiful, yet strong females to the SW, if they just go with the idea of "viking shieldmaidens", who are then free to accompany and adore their mighty Astartes protectors as sidekicks without destroying any reputation. It would probably end up a little like the Conan movies, just with lots of snow.

Well people shouldn't poke in other people's business. Adn they are the good guys, always helping when needed ( hence, 1'st war for Armageddon ), and they don't do what the Imperium is telling them. We shall see about that yet, but I would love their move. Or Imperial Guard one, that would be awesome to.

larose14 wrote:Imperial guard all the way. The story could follow a. Young commissar in a begining clip where he's forced to execute a sergeant to rally the troops and push though an orc horde, perhaps cameos by yarrick and the battle of armageddon, who personally commends the young commissar for his bravery amd has him transfered to a platoon command unit on another world fighting tyranids. Once he arrives he realizes the olatoon commander Is a child hood friend who is fighting with limited resources yatta yatta fight for survival, while trying to keep their honor for the emperor and have their past conflict their judgements.

Oh man this has tons of human drama and destruction and war written all over It !! Lmao.. but seriously.. cool eh?

Edit: marine reinforcements could come in the end. I mean all in all marines kicking ass is awesome regardless and would be a cool ending on a movie centered around normal humans.

The reinforcement reminded me of when I was reading the last story from the lost and kept hearing about them getting relief and kept thinking "DROP PODS NOW! ...now! how bout now?"

Guardsmen movie would be cooler, but only if there's at least one scene of a Commissar executing a psyker or sergeant. It's just not the Guard without a Commissar's motivational technique.

Documentary on tyranids: on the origin of tyranids.

Is there any info that the ultramarines movie was successful and earned enough money to warrant another film? Very cool if it did ....

Dingdoodah wrote:Documentary on tyranids: on the origin of tyranids.

I don't think that we will ever know that, GW won't even move timeline a little bit. Much less tell us about origin of a species beyond Milky Way.


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mk2 wrote:Is there any info that the ultramarines movie was successful and earned enough money to warrant another film? Very cool if it did ....

I heard that they had some profit, witch means - another movie is in plan.

Brother Coa wrote:

Dingdoodah wrote:Documentary on tyranids: on the origin of tyranids.

I don't think that we will ever know that, GW won't even move timeline a little bit. Much less tell us about origin of a species beyond Milky Way.

OK then, how about a black templar movie, 300-style!

Dingdoodah wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

Dingdoodah wrote:Documentary on tyranids: on the origin of tyranids.

I don't think that we will ever know that, GW won't even move timeline a little bit. Much less tell us about origin of a species beyond Milky Way.

OK then, how about a black templar movie, 300-style!

That's to low number for them, try 3000

500 to hold off the million orks at the hot gates, that's my last offer; Take it or leave it.

Dingdoodah wrote:500 to hold off the million orks at the hot gates, that's my last offer; Take it or leave it.

One Black Templar with no helmet and cool scar against 1000 orks

Dingdoodah wrote:500 to hold off the million orks at the hot gates, that's my last offer; Take it or leave it.

You didn't heard GW comment on Space Marine:

Reporter: "So who are the enemies?"
GW guy: "Million strong Ork invasion."
Reporter: "Wow, so how much is 1 Space Marine worth?"
GW guy: "Tens of thousands of Orks."
Reporter: "Oh, so it is balanced?"
GW guy: "Pretty much."

I was like

Brother Coa wrote:Reporter: "Wow, so how much is 1 Space Marine worth?"
GW guy: "Tens of thousands of Orks."

As per the Dorn-formula, I guess this means that 1 Guardsman must be worth thousands of Orks. Cool.

Lynata wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:Reporter: "Wow, so how much is 1 Space Marine worth?"
GW guy: "Tens of thousands of Orks."

As per the Dorn-formula, I guess this means that 1 Guardsman must be worth thousands of Orks. Cool.

I know, but that is what the guy from GW said... and I loled....

Brother Coa wrote:I know, but that is what the guy from GW said... and I loled....

Oh well, in a way it's understandable ... "Space Marine" is arguably going to be for 40k computer games what "300" was for movies. Massive heroic action on legendary scale. Movie Marine-style. It only gets awkward if you have people who think this is how it's always supposed to work.

Let's just enjoy the game for what it is. I wish there'd be more stuff for other factions aside from Marines, but I think it's still going to be fun.

A Space Wolf and Battle Sister team up could totally work. Just think Sara Conner and the Terminator in Terminator 2. You have a strong confident female who is forced to work with her greatest enemy. By the end, because of his actions and sacrifice she actually has a new respect for the machine.

This story could work both ways. The sister could see the SW as nothing more than a Heritical brute, but once they spend some time together she can see the man under the armor.

I donno... I kinda like it. It doesn't hurt that the Space Puppies is the only SM faction that I ever concidered playing because they seem to actually have unique character.

Take another female sidekick, then, but don't "corrupt" the hardcore style and history of the SoB.

imho, the Chapter that would work best alongside Sisters is probably the Black Templars, considering they have a certain similarity in terms of traditions and attitude towards psykers.

How about the story of a fallen angel and his quest with a little girl as he avoid the dark angels?

Space Wolves... I like most of their units, but meh... I'd like to see an IG movie, specially if it's about Straken and his Catachan

Dingdoodah wrote:How about the story of a fallen angel and his quest with a little girl as he avoid the dark angels?

Why would he have a little girl?

coolyo294 wrote:

Dingdoodah wrote:How about the story of a fallen angel and his quest with a little girl as he avoid the dark angels?

Why would he have a little girl?

Becasue it will make a Space Marine more Human, example:

Brother Coa wrote:

coolyo294 wrote:

Dingdoodah wrote:How about the story of a fallen angel and his quest with a little girl as he avoid the dark angels?

Why would he have a little girl?

Becasue it will make a Space Marine more Human, example:

Not sure if serious....

Brother Coa wrote:

coolyo294 wrote:

Dingdoodah wrote:How about the story of a fallen angel and his quest with a little girl as he avoid the dark angels?

Why would he have a little girl?

Becasue it will make a Space Marine more Human, example:

the animatrix-style is still a good idea, though.

Lynata wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:Reporter: "Wow, so how much is 1 Space Marine worth?"
GW guy: "Tens of thousands of Orks."

As per the Dorn-formula, I guess this means that 1 Guardsman must be worth thousands of Orks. Cool.

uhhh, no. That would mean every Guardsman would be worth 100 orks, not 1000.

A romantic comedy about a Necron Lord looking for love who finds it in a Gretchin would be more interesting a watch than a movie about the Space Wolves.

Void__Dragon wrote:A romantic comedy about a Necron Lord looking for love who finds it in a Gretchin would be more interesting a watch than a movie about the Space Wolves.

...?

Clearly Necrons only love tau.

im2randomghgh wrote:uhhh, no. That would mean every Guardsman would be worth 100 orks, not 1000.

The Dorn formula is 1 Marine = 10 Guardsmen, so if 1 Marine = 10.000 Orcs then 1 Guardsmen = 1.000 Orcs

And o_O @ dat poster

im2randomghgh wrote:...?

Clearly Necrons only love tau.

You make a valid point.

Lynata wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:uhhh, no. That would mean every Guardsman would be worth 100 orks, not 1000.

The Dorn formula is 1 Marine = 10 Guardsmen, so if 1 Marine = 10.000 Orcs then 1 Guardsmen = 1.000 Orcs

And o_O @ dat poster

1 Marine = 100 Guardsmen.

im2randomghgh wrote:1 Marine = 100 Guardsmen.

It depends on the source you are looking at.

The Horus Heresy series say a MArine is equal to 100 human warriors, basically guardsmen.

But more recent codices say they are equal to a dozen guardsmen.

It's all hyperbole anyway.

I wouldn't mind a film about an Inquisitor Lord's goal to bring the judgement of the Emperor to a corrupt ruler of a hive city full of Chaos Renegade Guardsmen, told through the eyes of one of the Lord's henchmen. You know, maybe a young accolyte, to bring a more human take on this mighty Lord, hammering at the gates of hell to accomplish his goal, never wavering in his quest. Blah blah blah story testing just how far this guy is willing to go in the name of the Emperor. He brings armies to make the way for him and in the midst of battle he and his henchmen become seperated from his forces, blah blah blah some henchmen die, the sky is soaked with blood and clouds of death block out the sun, epic s*** like that. Gets to the palace, crushes resistance, then bursts in to realize the ruler is now a mutated follower of Chaos, who summons forth a Greater Daemon or something to create an epic climactic fight, Inquisitor wins, they leave, saturation-nuke the whole planet from orbit just to make sure everything is good and dead, the end.

Void__Dragon wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:1 Marine = 100 Guardsmen.

It depends on the source you are looking at.
The Horus Heresy series say a MArine is equal to 100 human warriors, basically guardsmen.
But more recent codices say they are equal to a dozen guardsmen.
It's all hyperbole anyway.

And since novels are non-canon ...

The exact quote from Rogal Dorn was as follows, by the way:
"Give me a hundred Space Marines. Or failing that give me a thousand other troops."

That's not even recent, I think. I've seen that quote years ago. It's just some novel authors making stuff up again. Heck, read Aaron Dembski-Bowden's blog, he even has an entry titled "loose canon" dedicated to the topic.

Lynata wrote:And since novels are non-canon ...

Depends on which novel you are reading.

The first Ultramarines novel for instance is almost undeniably canon.

But I digress.

Void__Dragon wrote:

Lynata wrote:And since novels are non-canon ...

Depends on which novel you are reading.

The first Ultramarines novel for instance is almost undeniably canon.

But I digress.

The events are always canon, they details are not.

I would love to see the following as movies:

Sanctuary 101

The assault on the Sin of Damnation

Vect's rise to power in Commorragh, as a 12 part miniseries..

Void__Dragon wrote:Depends on which novel you are reading.
The first Ultramarines novel for instance is almost undeniably canon.

Hum? Did one of the GW guys state this?

im2randomghgh wrote:The events are always canon, they details are not.

That's not quite how Gav Thorpe and George Mann explained it.

Lynata wrote:Hum? Did one of the GW guys state this?

Explicitly? No.

But the Necron codex not only referenced it, it directed quoted a passage from the book, and the writer of the book, Graham McNeil, was one of the writers of the Necron codex.

Void__Dragon wrote:But the Necron codex not only referenced it, it directed quoted a passage from the book, and the writer of the book, Graham McNeil, was one of the writers of the Necron codex.

Oh, yeah - that's in line with the given statements then.

GW occasionally adopts things they like from licensed material. Gav mentioned the Last Chancers characters as an example - at the same time he commented that there is "no pressure to feel that it has to be accepted into the worldview promulgated by the codexes and army books" on other stuff. George Mann went further into detail by explaining that each BL novel is basically the respective author's own interpretation and an "alternative version" of the setting, explaining why some books contradict each other. Generally, no BL novel can ever establish canon simply because no BL author is expected to respect things established in another's books (also see Aaron Dembski-Bowden's blog on this). Only what is printed in GW studio material should be adhered to.

Or, to quote Andy Hoare on the subject of novel canonicity:

"It all stems from the assumption that there’s a binding contract between author and reader to adhere to some nonexistent subjective construct or ‘true’ representation of the setting. There is no such contract, and no such objective truth."

A good example for GW adopting something and discarding another would also be Inquisitor Eisenhorn which became his own miniature for the Inquisitor RPG, despite Dan Abnett grossly violating GW's established rule concerning the height of Space Marines - so just because something of a novel became canon doesn't mean the entire book is. Generally, the only way to be safe is by limiting your perception to what is printed by GW. Personally I am adopting some novel ideas into my perception of the game world myself, but I am well aware that these are non-canon ideas that may well be contradicted by GW any day, and that I can not expect anyone else to respect them.

But I guess this debate would be better placed in the "what should be considered canon" thread.

I think that a space wolf move would be good because their not bland and boaring like ultra marines

I really enjoyed the Ultramarines movie, and it would be nice to see more movies, especially with Dan Abnett

I think BA or even BT movie would be epic


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Void__Dragon wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:...?

Clearly Necrons only love tau.

You make a valid point.

Ahem...



Nuff said.

Battle Brother Ambrosius wrote:I really enjoyed the Ultramarines movie, and it would be nice to see more movies, especially with Dan Abnett

I think BA or even BT movie would be epic


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Void__Dragon wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:...?

Clearly Necrons only love tau.

You make a valid point.

Ahem...



Nuff said.

That's Bromance, but Necrons reserve all of their romantic interests for Tau. That's how lollicron was made.

Battle Brother Ambrosius wrote:I really enjoyed the Ultramarines movie, and it would be nice to see more movies, especially with Dan Abnett

I think BA or even BT movie would be epic


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Void__Dragon wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:...?

Clearly Necrons only love tau.

You make a valid point.

Ahem...

Just go with it, man.

im2randomghgh wrote:That's Bromance, but Necrons reserve all of their romantic interests for Tau. That's how lollicron was made.

If that is the case, how do you explain this??

Actually even though I'd love a Blood Angels movie and its gritty melee combat and none stop action, it should be a movie based on Storm Of Iron by Graham Mcneill, seriously it like changed my view of the chaos and it was an epic book