Some days I wake up and I'm excited to see customers or interact with my friends. Other days I wake up and people are a monumental waste of time, existing only to impede my personal existence in really effing annoying ways, like today. What is your personal view of the rest of the bipedal occupants of this god-forsaken rock?
It varies from day to day actually ( sometimes hour to hour)...
And often depends on exactly who I'm having to interact with.
If I'm at a "social gathering"..I, in general, get on fairly well with others...unless circumstances dictate otherwise.
If I'm stuck in traffic or in a shopping center....or forced to listen to some inane babble....then I tend to start fantasizing about people around me dropping dead....or zombies...lots and lots of zombies.
I hate humanity sometimes, being so hypocritical about things. BAH!
But I love humanity sometimes especially when we talk about alien races most notably smurfs. Brings out an old racism inside everyone
I dislike the majority of people on this planet, and I am almost positive that the majority of people on this planet dislike me.
Sometimes acts that increase my faith in humanity occur, but they're often overshadow by the myriad others which decrease it.
People who take offence on someone else's behalf, for example, really piss me off. I shouldn't have to monitor what I say outside my house on the off chance that some gakker on this overpopulated rock thinks "My friend wouldn't like that, i'll tell him to shut up." or "How dare he hold that opinion, I shall lecture him on the error of his ways, using only the information I gathered from eavesdropping on his conversation."
If only you could legally punch someone who was that far up their own arse, but unfortunately, that usually means you're psychopathic and you need 'treatment', despite rage and anger being perfectly valid human emotions brought on by the spewing of gobgak from the mouth of Sir High'n'Mighty atop his high horse.
i separate people into two sections : general (stupid) public and smart individuals.
i once watched a vid of pair of thugs robbing a jewelry store in broad daylight in a busy street. one man stood in their way and tried to stop them, this man goes into smart individuals.
about 30-40 people are gathered around, watching this unfold, not doing a single thing to intervene in the beating of a man who has just tried to defend the law and justice. these people get put into general (stupid) public. one person tries to get out of this section by doing a kick to one of the robbers, he slips, decides its too much for his ego to bear and runs back to the crowd.
the robbers get away, the defiant man is badly beaten, and the crowd just starts mulling off, not even giving the wounded man even a hint of attention.
this is why i despise humanity in general. because one man can stand up to the evil, but the rest just dont want to get involved, lest they get sued or something. and even if he suceeds in standing up against it, there is always some way he gets torn down. like the man who defends his home can be prosecuted if any harm comes to the attackers. that sort of stuff makes me want to kill a lawyer or two.
I'm a maintenance person at a supermarket, I clean gak off the floors, I clean gak off the walls, the tvs are stuck on HLN so I constantly here about crap going on around the world. My fellow employees in the food court treat me like gak, I'm waiting in front of a counter for 5min out of a 15min break and sometimes they have a customer behind me go first. One manager keeps bumming cash or food off of me even thou he has 2 sports cars and a motorcycle, the one time I said no to him for the snacks he wrote me for insubordination.
So I basically have a constant hatred for humanity in general.
mondo80 wrote:, the one time I said no to him for the snacks he wrote me for insubordination.
So I basically have a constant hatred for humanity in general.
You can't go to a.... someone, higher above him?
Because quite frankly, I would raise a singluarily expressive digit to him.....
Pretty deep, here. Having to listen to one coworker go on about how great Germany is compared to the U.S., how ignorant Other Coworker is by not wanting to visit Germany, how much better behaved the kids are in Germany, Something Something Something Dark Si-Germany. It's rediculous.
Not to mention the fact that a 17 year old who has worked at work for a week tried to tell me how to do my job (worked there for a year), and when I tell him off for it he goes to the manager. I FRIGGIN TOLD HIM HOW TO DO HIS JOB, I KNOW HOW TO DO MY BLOODY OWN!
Not to mention that, since I don't stare at every womans ass at work, coworkers and customers alike, that some how makes me gay....
Oh, and lets not forget the fact that you can buy $6 beef jerky, put your name on it, and STILL have it eaten by other people in fifteen minutes.
And then College. Oh boy, College. One place I can apply to treats me like a statistic, another one literally costs me an arm and a leg OR a career in prostitution in order to pay for it, and the last is sending me letters from the Student Body signed by "A Member of the Studen Body"....
I love the idea of asking a community composed largely of the socially awkward (stereotypes!) and teens (Also stereotypes) what they think of humanity at large.
ShumaGorath wrote:I love the idea of asking a community composed largely of the socially awkward (stereotypes!) and teens (Also stereotypes) what they think of humanity at large.
ShumaGorath wrote:I love the idea of asking a community composed largely of the socially awkward (stereotypes!) and teens (Also stereotypes) what they think of humanity at large.
Mr. Pot meet Mr. Kettle ?...
..It seems to me, and of course I may be incorrect, that you yourself have a great deal of disdain towards the general public.
..Of course I'm just basing this off of reading your various post over the years.
ShumaGorath wrote:I love the idea of asking a community composed largely of the socially awkward (stereotypes!) and teens (Also stereotypes) what they think of humanity at large.
Mr. Pot meet Mr. Kettle ?... ..It seems to me, and of course I may be incorrect, that you yourself have a great deal of disdain towards the general public. ..Of course I'm just basing this off of reading your various post over the years.
Don't confuse my opinions towards the human race in general and my opinions towards the people I attempt to communicate with on this forum or talk about at large. I hate an awful lot of people, but I don't know the vast majority of humans and I don't have anything against some random chinese or african dude. I dislike much of the American public that I know. I don't start out disliking people before meeting them (or at the very least coming to understand their works). I am not so scarred.
Somewhat typically I'm of the rare opinion that you shouldn't feel something towards something without reason and that that reason has to be real not imagined.
ShumaGorath wrote:I love the idea of asking a community composed largely of the socially awkward (stereotypes!) and teens (Also stereotypes) what they think of humanity at large.
Mr. Pot meet Mr. Kettle ?...
..It seems to me, and of course I may be incorrect, that you yourself have a great deal of disdain towards the general public.
..Of course I'm just basing this off of reading your various post over the years.
Don't confuse my opinions towards the human race in general and my opinions towards the people I attempt to communicate with on this forum or talk about at large. I hate an awful lot of people, but I don't know the vast majority of humans and I don't have anything against some random chinese or african dude. I dislike much of the American public that I know. I don't start out disliking people before meeting them though. I am not so scarred.
That makes sense, I may indeed feel a certain "indifference" towards many of those I encounter (at least until I know them one way or the other), but as to outright hatred...no, that takes a while to grow.
Melissia wrote:Dogma's the one with the suitcase sitting around like a shmuck. I'm the girl on the left. Cannerus of courseis standing center stage.
Interestingly that is one of my favorite sitting positions. Unfortunately, I do not own a brief case (I prefer backpacks and duffel bags), which means we are all in the presence of an unattended bag.
The great Ruby Rod has a saying for time such as these.
Melissia wrote:Dogma's the one with the suitcase sitting around like a shmuck. I'm the girl on the left. Cannerus of courseis standing center stage.
Interestingly that is one of my favorite sitting positions. Unfortunately, I do not own a brief case (I prefer backpacks and duffel bags), which means we are all in the presence of an unattended bag.
The great Ruby Rod has a saying for time such as these.
" No no no no no no. 'Cuz if it was a bomb, the alarms would go off 'cuz all these hotels have bomb detectors, right? "...Correct?
I don't hate humanity so much as a really hate overt stupidity.
24" wheels on an 80s car is overt stupidity.
8 inch lift kits, with huge mud tires on a truck that never sees anything other than the highway is stupid.
Normally, anything that ends up on the news tends to be an act of willful stupidity on the part of the offender. For instance, in Portland Oregon, is the Steel Bridge, made of steel grating. There are signs about every 10 feet along the bridge saying do not change lanes.. yet every year at least ONE person does this, and ends up in the river dead, seriously how smart do you have to be to NOT CHANGE LANES?
Unfortunately I am in a place where I am forced to deal with the stupidity on a weekly/daily basis.
Ensis Ferrae wrote:I don't hate humanity so much as a really hate overt stupidity.
24" wheels on an 80s car is overt stupidity.
8 inch lift kits, with huge mud tires on a truck that never sees anything other than the highway is stupid.
Normally, anything that ends up on the news tends to be an act of willful stupidity on the part of the offender. For instance, in Portland Oregon, is the Steel Bridge, made of steel grating. There are signs about every 10 feet along the bridge saying do not change lanes.. yet every year at least ONE person does this, and ends up in the river dead, seriously how smart do you have to be to NOT CHANGE LANES?
Unfortunately I am in a place where I am forced to deal with the stupidity on a weekly/daily basis.
Peoples choice of "vehicle customizing" is just that...their choice, it's not particularly indicative of their level of intelligence ...
Believe me, there is a plethora of individules who would consider paying hundreds upon hundreds of dollars on " little plastic men" to be exceedingly stupid.
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Albatross wrote:Cut one open and find out?
But...cutting them open usually causes them to stop working...
remilia_scarlet wrote:All is fine and well until people discover I'm not female, then I'm a freak and/or an abomination of/upon god.
I thought you were female, you freakish unholy abomination!
SoloFalcon1138 wrote:I work in the food service industry, so my disdain for the incompetence, ingratitude, and general ignorance of people is pretty high...
Working in a supermarket, I feel the same way.
If you have ANY faith left in humanity, watch the Jeremy Kyle Show, you will soon be lining up to sign my 'lets make forced sterilisation legal' petition!
Personally, I just feel some level of sympathy for ignorance in general. I reserve hatred and disdain for people who I've actually met. I won't actually dislike you until you've done something to me to deserve it.
Chrysaor686 wrote:Personally, I just feel some level of sympathy for ignorance in general. I reserve hatred and disdain for people who I've actually met. I won't actually dislike you until you've done something to me to deserve it.
This. Rush hour traffic is a source of great hatred.
It varies between mild contempt and outright hate.
I don't have a problem with innately stupid people (well maybe a small one) the people I have an issue with it the ones are too lazy to try and think. The worst are the ones who don't bother to think then convince themselves they have a logical reason to do what they do. You have a right to live your life how you want but don't pretend your something your not.
Airsoftmaniac- You put a guy who decided to take on a pair of thieves by himself in the intelligent group? Since he ended up beaten up on the floor the other guys are the smart ones.
But...your just part of someone else's " masses"...
The " other guy" doesn't see you ( or me) for the unique snowflake we believe ourselves to be...we're just another Carbon based life form in "their" way.
I love humanity and all the faults much like I love a beloved television show; you know its overall good, but there are things you have to gloss over in order to truly enjoy it.
Generally at pretty tolerable levels until I either read the news or drive far enough to encounter someone who doesn't know what they're doing behind the wheel (2D6 blocks).
But...your just part of someone else's " masses"...
The " other guy" doesn't see you ( or me) for the unique snowflake we believe ourselves to be...we're just another Carbon based life form in "their" way.
That was my point yes. Honestly, I think humans are a horrible species, but at least we are interesting.
I usually find I have disdain for people who say things like "I hate people but I can tolerate individuals" or that make blanket statements about humanity yet seem to want to exclude themselves from that statement even though they are included.
Ahtman wrote:I usually find I have disdain for people who say things like "I hate people but I can tolerate individuals" or that make blanket statements about humanity yet seem to want to exclude themselves from that statement even though they are included.
So I can't dislike people in groups while liking them (maybe) individually without you disliking me? Now my feelings are hurt
EDIT: I don't like people in a general sense because I think that as a whole they are selfish, cruel, stupid, and frankly, annoying. Me? I'm very selfish, apathetic, and cynical. Annoying only when I attempt to be funny I think. When I talk to people one on one, I tend to find that people are much kinder, friendly, and genuinely intelligent. Then throw that same person in with 20 other people and it's like their IQ drops 50 points, suddenly being friendly with them is nearly impossible, and they just start acting like idiots. I'm socially awkward so I tend not to socialize in groups but when I do I'm not any different. It's something about the human mind. It drives me crazy.
I mainly hate old people, they are just so STOOOOPID, the education system up until the 1980's was terrible so the amount of 'baby boomers' that are chip-on-their-shoulder morons is ridiculous. Luckily my parents are alright.
Anyone i come into frequent contact with i dont mind, i find it hard to hate or dislike, i have an annoying habit of seeing something good in most people. Or at least coaxing it out with some subtle manipulation.
Avatar 720 wrote:I dislike the majority of people on this planet, and I am almost positive that the majority of people on this planet dislike me.
Sometimes acts that increase my faith in humanity occur, but they're often overshadow by the myriad others which decrease it.
People who take offence on someone else's behalf, for example, really piss me off. I shouldn't have to monitor what I say outside my house on the off chance that some gakker on this overpopulated rock thinks "My friend wouldn't like that, i'll tell him to shut up." or "How dare he hold that opinion, I shall lecture him on the error of his ways, using only the information I gathered from eavesdropping on his conversation."
If only you could legally punch someone who was that far up their own arse, but unfortunately, that usually means you're psychopathic and you need 'treatment', despite rage and anger being perfectly valid human emotions brought on by the spewing of gobgak from the mouth of Sir High'n'Mighty atop his high horse.
Ahtman wrote:I usually find I have disdain for people who say things like "I hate people but I can tolerate individuals" or that make blanket statements about humanity yet seem to want to exclude themselves from that statement even though they are included.
BoltThrower wrote:Most of you sound like stupid children. Get over yourselves. Disregard this if you are actually an adolescent.
Why? Ever worked in customer services? Ever had a 'customer' having a go at you on the phone, talking over you, because they know you just have to sit their and take it? It's ridiculous. Yet society, for some reason, demands that we be good as gold, just because money has changed hands. Why shouldn't I, when a customer is being stroppy and pushy for the sake of it, be allowed to simply say 'look mate, you're being a dick, and you're trying my patience. Go and read your fething policy, like you should have BEFORE you signed up to it, forming a legally binding contract. You will find, surprise surprise, that once again I am correct, and you are wrong. I don't give a flying proverbial WHAT your friend who is apparently a solicitor has told you, for he too is wrong.'
No, I have to sit there, and suck it up, trying to get a word in edge ways. People. Are. Scum. Simple. As soon as they think they can get away with it, they will be a knobend to you. Don't get me wrong, I actually enjoy my job, I'm an argumentative sod with a firm grasp of the English language (despite this posts inevitable spelling mistakes and grammatical errors). I make a point of learning what I need to to be right, especially in my professional life. But some people seriously, seriously try your patience. And all because for some unknown reason, we're just expected to be mindlessly polite and subservient, even when talking to a brainless moron incapable of accepting that they are wrong.
ADDENDUM. Might have come across as the very sort I was having a pop at. This isn't entirely accurate. Treat me with respect, and you'll get it back. When calling me at work to discuss your claim, please accept that being paid to do this, I will generally know more than you do. But treat me like a witch, and I demand the right to talk to you like a witch. The majority of my client's are perfectly reasonable people, and indeed, even when they aren't, I'm noted in my team for being able to defuse possible complaints before they really kick off. But trust me, some people just want to kick up a fuss, seemingly under the impression that if the piss me off enough, then their Policy Wording will magically change into whatever they want it to be. The worst....'I'm sorry sir, but you have chosen Third Party Fire and Theft cover. This means that we would not look to deal with your repairs directly. I have emailed you the details of the Third Party Insurer, you will have to claim through them'. 'WHAT! THIS IS DISCRIMINATION! WHAT DO I PAY YOU FOR? HOW DARE YOU NOT REPAIR MY VEHICLE! DO YOU TREAT PEOPLE WITH FULLY COMPREHENSIVE INSURANCE LIKE THIS? I THINK NOT! I DEMAND YOU REPAIR MY VEHICLE' 'Sir, you are correct, I would arrange the repairs to your vehicle if your policy was Fully Comprehensive. That is what Fully Comprehensive Insurance means, and why it costs more. As I stated earlier (repeat the bit about TPFT cover'. 'GRAAHA!!!!!I'MANUNREASONABLEARSEHOLEANDI'MGOINGTOGOTOTHEFOSANDTHEPRESSANDTHEQUEENANDI'LLSEEYOUSACKED'
In general my opinion of humanity is pretty low. I try to look on the bright side of things but then it seems like something stupid happens every other day and then I lose all faith again.
BoltThrower wrote:Most of you sound like stupid children. Get over yourselves. Disregard this if you are actually an adolescent.
Why? Ever worked in customer services? Ever had a 'customer' having a go at you on the phone, talking over you, because they know you just have to sit their and take it? It's ridiculous. Yet society, for some reason, demands that we be good as gold, just because money has changed hands. Why shouldn't I, when a customer is being stroppy and pushy for the sake of it, be allowed to simply say 'look mate, you're being a dick, and you're trying my patience. Go and read your fething policy, like you should have BEFORE you signed up to it, forming a legally binding contract. You will find, surprise surprise, that once again I am correct, and you are wrong. I don't give a flying proverbial WHAT your friend who is apparently a solicitor has told you, for he too is wrong.'
No, I have to sit there, and suck it up, trying to get a word in edge ways. People. Are. Scum. Simple. As soon as they think they can get away with it, they will be a knobend to you. Don't get me wrong, I actually enjoy my job, I'm an argumentative sod with a firm grasp of the English language (despite this posts inevitable spelling mistakes and grammatical errors). I make a point of learning what I need to to be right, especially in my professional life. But some people seriously, seriously try your patience. And all because for some unknown reason, we're just expected to be mindlessly polite and subservient, even when talking to a brainless moron incapable of accepting that they are wrong.
It's not society that's forcing you to be polite, and it's not for an unknown reason. It's what your employer expects, which to use your own logic, you should have known before accepting the position.
Yes, some people are problems. I've worked in retail. I currently work for the welfare state. Some people will lie to your face. Others will hurl inusults and abuse for no reason other than spite.
Some cigars go bad halfway through, doesn't mean I'm not gonna keep smoking them.
KamikazeCanuck wrote:In general my opinion of humanity is pretty low. I try to look on the bright side of things but then it seems like something stupid happens every other day and then I lose all faith again.
It's a good idea not to place a great deal of "faith" in the public at large to begin with, this way you are seldom let down by their actions.
Why? Ever worked in customer services? Ever had a 'customer' having a go at you on the phone, talking over you, because they know you just have to sit their and take it? It's ridiculous.
QFT.
The only thing worse than taking flak from Mr And-Another-Thing-! is the fact that you're forced into treating him as if they're the most prized human on the planet, or risk losing your job.
A lot of people can't seem to grasp things when they're being spoken to politely down the phone, or with a calm look as their spit (because the gakkers are always the ones that manage to emphasise every single hate-filled word will a fresh volley of saliva) makes its way down your face.
There are only so many times you can have the "I'm sorry, bu-" "AND ANOTHER THING! ..." "We'll try to help you as best we can, bu-" "AND ANOTHER THING ..." conversation before you begin to think Stalin was actually a pretty swell guy compared to the gakface you're speaking at.
KamikazeCanuck wrote:In general my opinion of humanity is pretty low. I try to look on the bright side of things but then it seems like something stupid happens every other day and then I lose all faith again.
It's a good idea not to place a great deal of "faith" in the public at large to begin with, this way you are seldom let down by their actions.
That was my philosophy to begin with but studies show that those with a positive outlook are happier. Our bitter, sarcastic ,pessimism seems like all good and fun but are we only hurting ourselves?
Why? Ever worked in customer services? Ever had a 'customer' having a go at you on the phone, talking over you, because they know you just have to sit their and take it? It's ridiculous.
QFT.
The only thing worse than taking flak from Mr And-Another-Thing-! is the fact that you're forced into treating him as if they're the most prized human on the planet, or risk losing your job.
A lot of people can't seem to grasp things when they're being spoken to politely down the phone, or with a calm look as their spit (because the gakkers are always the ones that manage to emphasise every single hate-filled word will a fresh volley of saliva) makes its way down your face.
There are only so many times you can have the "I'm sorry, bu-" "AND ANOTHER THING! ..." "We'll try to help you as best we can, bu-" "AND ANOTHER THING ..." conversation before you begin to think Stalin was actually a pretty swell guy compared to the gakface you're speaking at.
I've actually found that maintaining "stern" eye contact while remaining "polite" tends to go a long way in encouraging " customer civility".
Why? Ever worked in customer services? Ever had a 'customer' having a go at you on the phone, talking over you, because they know you just have to sit their and take it? It's ridiculous.
QFT.
The only thing worse than taking flak from Mr And-Another-Thing-! is the fact that you're forced into treating him as if they're the most prized human on the planet, or risk losing your job.
A lot of people can't seem to grasp things when they're being spoken to politely down the phone, or with a calm look as their spit (because the gakkers are always the ones that manage to emphasise every single hate-filled word will a fresh volley of saliva) makes its way down your face.
There are only so many times you can have the "I'm sorry, bu-" "AND ANOTHER THING! ..." "We'll try to help you as best we can, bu-" "AND ANOTHER THING ..." conversation before you begin to think Stalin was actually a pretty swell guy compared to the gakface you're speaking at.
I've actually found that maintaining "stern" eye contact while remaining "polite" tends to go a long way in encouraging " customer civility".
Not so easy to do over the phone
Sometimes I just feel like pointing out, pointless thought it might be, that I am in fact 6'3", and as such I very much doubt they would dare speak to me like that, or indeed anyone else, face to face...
KamikazeCanuck wrote:In general my opinion of humanity is pretty low. I try to look on the bright side of things but then it seems like something stupid happens every other day and then I lose all faith again.
It's a good idea not to place a great deal of "faith" in the public at large to begin with, this way you are seldom let down by their actions.
That was my philosophy to begin with but studies show that those with a positive outlook are happier. Our bitter, sarcastic ,pessimism seems like all good and fun but are we only hurting ourselves?
I don't know, I'm fairly indifferent concerning most people, don't really care if they hit the lottery or get run over by a bus and I find that I'm pretty happy ( or at least content most of the time)..
Then again I don't really mind being a cynical ,jaded old bastard either.
KamikazeCanuck wrote:In general my opinion of humanity is pretty low. I try to look on the bright side of things but then it seems like something stupid happens every other day and then I lose all faith again.
It's a good idea not to place a great deal of "faith" in the public at large to begin with, this way you are seldom let down by their actions.
That was my philosophy to begin with but studies show that those with a positive outlook are happier. Our bitter, sarcastic ,pessimism seems like all good and fun but are we only hurting ourselves?
I don't know, I'm fairly indifferent concerning most people, don't really care if they hit the lottery or get run over by a bus and I find that I'm pretty happy ( or at least content most of the time)..
Then again I don't really mind being a cynical ,jaded old bastard either.
Cynical? You? You only want the destruction of the entire world via zombie apocalypse....that's not jaded.
And another one...we have strict rules, arguably laws (Road Traffic Act 1988 dictation) regarding obtaining reimbursement. If payment is not received within 28 days, then, and only then, can we issue legal action.
It's amazing, but it seems to be fact, that your first letter, the one with the full invoices etc, aren't received, but mysteriously....the last telling them we're issuing...is.... Which just causes more bloody phonecalls and double doing of work already done. Arseholes.
Why? Ever worked in customer services? Ever had a 'customer' having a go at you on the phone, talking over you, because they know you just have to sit their and take it? It's ridiculous.
QFT.
The only thing worse than taking flak from Mr And-Another-Thing-! is the fact that you're forced into treating him as if they're the most prized human on the planet, or risk losing your job.
A lot of people can't seem to grasp things when they're being spoken to politely down the phone, or with a calm look as their spit (because the gakkers are always the ones that manage to emphasise every single hate-filled word will a fresh volley of saliva) makes its way down your face.
There are only so many times you can have the "I'm sorry, bu-" "AND ANOTHER THING! ..." "We'll try to help you as best we can, bu-" "AND ANOTHER THING ..." conversation before you begin to think Stalin was actually a pretty swell guy compared to the gakface you're speaking at.
I've actually found that maintaining "stern" eye contact while remaining "polite" tends to go a long way in encouraging " customer civility".
Not so easy to do over the phone
Sometimes I just feel like pointing out, pointless thought it might be, that I am in fact 6'3", and as such I very much doubt they would dare speak to me like that, or indeed anyone else, face to face...
Yeah, I could see where phone interaction would be a draw back ...
Like you I have the " big guy" advantage, 6'4" 260LBS (plus I'm covered in tattoos) , so when a customer comes into the shop raising hell..I often get tapped to go "talk" with them.
Ahtman wrote:I usually find I have disdain for people who say things like "I hate people but I can tolerate individuals" or that make blanket statements about humanity yet seem to want to exclude themselves from that statement even though they are included.
hmmm...humanity is overall a big bunch of idiots. this site has a surprising amount of people who deserve to live though. i see more idiots in real life than on the internet....usually. if it was up to me a comet would pass by earth and turn most people into dust,and after a few days the population would be in the hundreds worldwide.
Ahtman wrote:I usually find I have disdain for people who say things like "I hate people but I can tolerate individuals" or that make blanket statements about humanity yet seem to want to exclude themselves from that statement even though they are included.
This is truth.
Not quite, i'll let Tommy Lee Jones take over.
People are stupid, ignorant, crazy, ravenous masses. A person is smart.
Polonius wrote:I'm not sure I'm wild about any theory that states that because people were ignorant, and are currently ignorant, they must remain so.
True but when it comes to intergalactic security like theirs I think the MIB would be justified for their secrecy.
Even in that clip (factual errors aside), it's not like there was massive upheaval because the facts changed.
True but there were still controversy and individuals suffering at the hands of mob rule before, during, and arguably after those discoveries happened if you went against the norms of the time.
It is certainly true that grouping has an effect on psychology. There is plenty of testimony regarding the difficulty of undercover police work to support that, and the of course the aforementioned mob rule.
However, these effects aren't necessarily negative. Mob rule and leadership function on essentially the same principles.
dogma wrote:It is certainly true that grouping has an effect on psychology. There is plenty of testimony regarding the difficulty of undercover police work to support that, and the of course the aforementioned mob rule.
However, these effects aren't necessarily negative. Mob rule and leadership function on essentially the same principles.
True, mob rule was one of the big reasons for the rise of Rome. Generally its got a negative connotation though IIRC.
I think people in general are okay. BUT the exception to this has to be all the tourists who dececrates my hometown every year! I dont want to help you, I certanly dont want you in the shop I run. And no I wont help you take your pictures! I loose faith each time a German, Britt, French or American tourisst happens to stumbel into my path. I also dislike students.... How is it possibel that someone studeing to be a lawyer or Doctor can be so dense?
I don't like most people, and that is only because I hate stupidity with a passion
I've also dealt with a lot of jerks so things like that have stuck with me
dogma wrote:That being said, if you want to speak the truth, then why cloak it in parables?
Well, sometimes you want to enjoy yourself with a nice little sci-fi story.
And yet, a serious issue comes up-- we humans are complex creatures, living in a complex world. So do you just... ignore it? Many shows do, yes, but I'm not sure that the shows are better for it.
dogma wrote:And proof that angst isn't the sole province of teens.
Sole province? Of course not. They just have a higher concentration.
dogma wrote:if you want to speak the truth, then why cloak it in parables?
Because people don't listen to direct messages that well, nor are they particularly memorable. Put it in a story and your average person is more likely to remember it.
biccat wrote:
Sole province? Of course not. They just have a higher concentration.
See, I don't think that's true. I think adults just get more creative in terms of expressing their angst.
biccat wrote:
Because people don't listen to direct messages that well, nor are they particularly memorable. Put it in a story and your average person is more likely to remember it.
biccat wrote:
Sole province? Of course not. They just have a higher concentration.
See, I don't think that's true. I think adults just get more creative in terms of expressing their angst.
Or it could be the easier access to alcohol.
dogma wrote:
biccat wrote:
Because people don't listen to direct messages that well, nor are they particularly memorable. Put it in a story and your average person is more likely to remember it.
They'll remember the story, anyway.
I loved the one about the rabbit and turtle racing. That turtle totally kicked the rabbit's butt.
BoltThrower wrote:Most of you sound like stupid children. Get over yourselves. Disregard this if you are actually an adolescent.
Why? Ever worked in customer services? Ever had a 'customer' having a go at you on the phone, talking over you, because they know you just have to sit their and take it? It's ridiculous. Yet society, for some reason, demands that we be good as gold, just because money has changed hands. Why shouldn't I, when a customer is being stroppy and pushy for the sake of it, be allowed to simply say 'look mate, you're being a dick, and you're trying my patience. Go and read your fething policy, like you should have BEFORE you signed up to it, forming a legally binding contract. You will find, surprise surprise, that once again I am correct, and you are wrong. I don't give a flying proverbial WHAT your friend who is apparently a solicitor has told you, for he too is wrong.'
No, I have to sit there, and suck it up, trying to get a word in edge ways. People. Are. Scum. Simple. As soon as they think they can get away with it, they will be a knobend to you. Don't get me wrong, I actually enjoy my job, I'm an argumentative sod with a firm grasp of the English language (despite this posts inevitable spelling mistakes and grammatical errors). I make a point of learning what I need to to be right, especially in my professional life. But some people seriously, seriously try your patience. And all because for some unknown reason, we're just expected to be mindlessly polite and subservient, even when talking to a brainless moron incapable of accepting that they are wrong.
ADDENDUM. Might have come across as the very sort I was having a pop at. This isn't entirely accurate. Treat me with respect, and you'll get it back. When calling me at work to discuss your claim, please accept that being paid to do this, I will generally know more than you do. But treat me like a witch, and I demand the right to talk to you like a witch. The majority of my client's are perfectly reasonable people, and indeed, even when they aren't, I'm noted in my team for being able to defuse possible complaints before they really kick off. But trust me, some people just want to kick up a fuss, seemingly under the impression that if the piss me off enough, then their Policy Wording will magically change into whatever they want it to be. The worst....'I'm sorry sir, but you have chosen Third Party Fire and Theft cover. This means that we would not look to deal with your repairs directly. I have emailed you the details of the Third Party Insurer, you will have to claim through them'. 'WHAT! THIS IS DISCRIMINATION! WHAT DO I PAY YOU FOR? HOW DARE YOU NOT REPAIR MY VEHICLE! DO YOU TREAT PEOPLE WITH FULLY COMPREHENSIVE INSURANCE LIKE THIS? I THINK NOT! I DEMAND YOU REPAIR MY VEHICLE' 'Sir, you are correct, I would arrange the repairs to your vehicle if your policy was Fully Comprehensive. That is what Fully Comprehensive Insurance means, and why it costs more. As I stated earlier (repeat the bit about TPFT cover'. 'GRAAHA!!!!!I'MANUNREASONABLEARSEHOLEANDI'MGOINGTOGOTOTHEFOSANDTHEPRESSANDTHEQUEENANDI'LLSEEYOUSACKED'
Why do I have to put up with this?
TLDR, but was happy to skim.
I've done customer service for eight hours a day over telephone. Yelled at, screamed at, talked down to. I've had jobs stuffing envelopes. I've worked doing community outreach going door to door in "drug dens". Jack of all trades, I suppose. So yes, and I once felt as you did. But read some Nietzsche or something, and kinda toughen up a bit. I don't care for most people I see in the street, and don't want to know them. I think to place a general hatred towards humanity in your situation is a bit absurd. It seems it's the job and the various inequalities present in capitalism, not something with "people".
I have a job now which involves teaching the most difficult and violence prone students in an entire urban school district. I get spat on, assaulted and threatened daily (but they still learn the academics!). Today, I did an hour of restraints on a child, all the while he tried to bite me finger off. Do I find such things frustrating? Yes. Do I go home, carry it with me and feel like honking my horn extra hard if somebody cuts me off? Sometimes. But playing the pity me game is so fething old. I perhaps am fortunate in being able to find a type of life affirming joy in my work, but you can tell me you have a "hard job" when a teenager has tried to hit you in the head with a hammer. I have dear friends who are scraping by and in debt just to do jobs they love, (myself included), refusing to run the rat race. A little bit of personal agency wouldn't hurt...
Automatically Appended Next Post: ALSO, IF I WAS YOUR BOSS (SORRY NOT A PIG CAPITALIST BUREAUCRAT JUST THEORETICAL), I'D FIRE YOU ALL FOR YOUR DISDAIN FOR THE CUSTOMER
I don't like crowds, I get alarmingly angry at the stupid things people do.
On the one hand, I think all unrepentant violent criminals should be executed (after being given a fair chance to repent, of course), preferably in a terribly painful way, on the other hand, I give change to and buy bottled water for homeless people on hot days.
RatBot wrote:I don't like crowds, I get alarmingly angry at the stupid things people do.
On the one hand, I think all unrepentant violent criminals should be executed (after being given a fair chance to repent, of course), preferably in a terribly painful way, on the other hand, I give change to and buy bottled water for homeless people on hot days.
Unrepentant Violent Criminals?...what exactly is an unrepentant violent criminal?
...I've punched a few people in the face in my life...which is both violent and criminal ( technicly)...and I don't feel a shred of regret for doing so...so I would suppose I should be executed in some painful way?
RatBot wrote:I don't like crowds, I get alarmingly angry at the stupid things people do.
On the one hand, I think all unrepentant violent criminals should be executed (after being given a fair chance to repent, of course), preferably in a terribly painful way, on the other hand, I give change to and buy bottled water for homeless people on hot days.
Unrepentant Violent Criminals?...what exactly is an unrepentant violent criminal?
...I've punched a few people in the face in my life...which is both violent and criminal ( technicly)...and I don't feel a shred of regret for doing so...so I would suppose I should be executed in some painful way?
No, I was being quite general. I mean the kind of guy who breaks into a random old person's house, steals their valuables and beats them to death. Or child rapists. I should've qualified "violet" with "heinously" or "dangerously".
Rob a convenience store because you're desperate for money cuz your kids are hungry or something? Bad, but not unforgivable.
Rob a convenience store because you just want money, you shoot the clerk in the face anyway after he gives you the money, and laugh about it later? Well.
dogma wrote:At least if we accept social status as height.
WHERE DID YOU GET PHOTOS OF ME?!?
Ok, I have to step up here: Invader Zim sucked as a series, it doesn't deserve it's cult following, the only, the SINGLEMOST redeeming quality of that show was GIR, and he was only in one episode in it's entireity..... EHEHEHEHEHEHE! CHICKEN! I'M GONNA EAT YOU!
Now, having said that, I do hate most people, but those one or two I don't make suffering through all them bastards worth it.
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FITZZ wrote: Unrepentant Violent Criminals?...what exactly is an unrepentant violent criminal?
...I've punched a few people in the face in my life...which is both violent and criminal ( technicly)...and I don't feel a shred of regret for doing so...so I would suppose I should be executed in some painful way?
Amazon Execution: The Spirit is willing, the body is weak!
RatBot wrote:I don't like crowds, I get alarmingly angry at the stupid things people do.
On the one hand, I think all unrepentant violent criminals should be executed (after being given a fair chance to repent, of course), preferably in a terribly painful way, on the other hand, I give change to and buy bottled water for homeless people on hot days.
Unrepentant Violent Criminals?...what exactly is an unrepentant violent criminal?
...I've punched a few people in the face in my life...which is both violent and criminal ( technicly)...and I don't feel a shred of regret for doing so...so I would suppose I should be executed in some painful way?
No, I was being quite general. I mean the kind of guy who breaks into a random old person's house, steals their valuables and beats them to death. Or child rapists. I should've qualified "violet" with "heinously" or "dangerously".
Rob a convenience store because you're desperate for money cuz your kids are hungry or something? Bad, but not unforgivable.
Rob a convenience store because you just want money, you shoot the clerk in the face anyway after he gives you the money, and laugh about it later? Well.
Ah, I got you.. and I agree..
Two guys slugging it out in a parking lot...meh, I don't see the problem...it's between them.
Some guy beating an old lady to death for her pension check...put him on the wall.
@ Chowder...I wouldn't mind that sort of execution.
Slarg232 wrote:Ok, I have to step up here: Invader Zim sucked as a series, it doesn't deserve it's cult following, the only, the SINGLEMOST redeeming quality of that show was GIR, and he was only in one episode in it's entireity..... EHEHEHEHEHEHE! CHICKEN! I'M GONNA EAT YOU!
Ok, I have to step up here: Invader Zim sucked as a series, it doesn't deserve it's cult following, the only, the SINGLEMOST redeeming quality of that show was GIR, and he was only in one episode in it's entireity..... EHEHEHEHEHEHE! CHICKEN! I'M GONNA EAT YOU!
You. You right here. YOU ARE THE REASON I HATE HUMANITY! RAGE! HATE! ANGST!
Ok, I have to step up here: Invader Zim sucked as a series, it doesn't deserve it's cult following, the only, the SINGLEMOST redeeming quality of that show was GIR, and he was only in one episode in it's entireity..... EHEHEHEHEHEHE! CHICKEN! I'M GONNA EAT YOU!
You. You right here. YOU ARE THE REASON I HATE HUMANITY! RAGE! HATE! ANGST!
ill join that hate,and raise it one rage.
invader zim was epic. the dark harvest episode was very strange though....
Ok, I have to step up here: Invader Zim sucked as a series, it doesn't deserve it's cult following, the only, the SINGLEMOST redeeming quality of that show was GIR, and he was only in one episode in it's entireity..... EHEHEHEHEHEHE! CHICKEN! I'M GONNA EAT YOU!
You. You right here. YOU ARE THE REASON I HATE HUMANITY! RAGE! HATE! ANGST!
ill join that hate,and raise it one rage.
invader zim was epic. the dark harvest episode was very strange though....
We can all agree that Dark Harvest is really creepy.
Ok, I have to step up here: Invader Zim sucked as a series, it doesn't deserve it's cult following, the only, the SINGLEMOST redeeming quality of that show was GIR, and he was only in one episode in it's entireity..... EHEHEHEHEHEHE! CHICKEN! I'M GONNA EAT YOU!
You. You right here. YOU ARE THE REASON I HATE HUMANITY! RAGE! HATE! ANGST!
ill join that hate,and raise it one rage.
invader zim was epic. the dark harvest episode was very strange though....
We can all agree that Dark Harvest is really creepy.
Was that the one where Zim stole all the kid's organs so he seemed human?
Ok, I have to step up here: Invader Zim sucked as a series, it doesn't deserve it's cult following, the only, the SINGLEMOST redeeming quality of that show was GIR, and he was only in one episode in it's entireity..... EHEHEHEHEHEHE! CHICKEN! I'M GONNA EAT YOU!
You. You right here. YOU ARE THE REASON I HATE HUMANITY! RAGE! HATE! ANGST!
ill join that hate,and raise it one rage.
invader zim was epic. the dark harvest episode was very strange though....
We can all agree that Dark Harvest is really creepy.
Was that the one where Zim stole all the kid's organs so he seemed human?
Chowderhead wrote:We can all agree that Dark Harvest is really creepy.
what does it say about me that i didnt find it creepy?
anyways.i hate most of humanity. if i could id take all the people i find not idiotic or hatever and take them into a bunker and blow the rest of the world up.
probably wouldn't be many scientist with me....
(Zootch is hit with a dodge ball)
Zootch: Ahh, my organs!
Zim: HA! Pitiful human organs!
(Zim is hit with a dodge ball)
Zim: Ahh, my squeedily spooch!
Dib: Gaz, you hear that? That’s no human organ! Humans don’t have squeedily spooches!
Gaz: I’ve got a squeedily spooch…
FITZZ wrote: @ Chowder...I wouldn't mind that sort of execution.
Chowder is even stealinz my creditz now :/
Chowderhead wrote:
Slarg232 wrote:Ok, I have to step up here: Invader Zim sucked as a series, it doesn't deserve it's cult following, the only, the SINGLEMOST redeeming quality of that show was GIR, and he was only in one episode in it's entireity..... EHEHEHEHEHEHE! CHICKEN! I'M GONNA EAT YOU!
Yep. Now you die.
Can't touch me, I'LL BITE YOUR LEGS OFF!
RatBot wrote:
Ok, I have to step up here: Invader Zim sucked as a series, it doesn't deserve it's cult following, the only, the SINGLEMOST redeeming quality of that show was GIR, and he was only in one episode in it's entireity..... EHEHEHEHEHEHE! CHICKEN! I'M GONNA EAT YOU!
You. You right here. YOU ARE THE REASON I HATE HUMANITY! RAGE! HATE! ANGST!
Ok, I have to step up here: Invader Zim sucked as a series, it doesn't deserve it's cult following, the only, the SINGLEMOST redeeming quality of that show was GIR, and he was only in one episode in it's entireity..... EHEHEHEHEHEHE! CHICKEN! I'M GONNA EAT YOU!
You. You right here. YOU ARE THE REASON I HATE HUMANITY! RAGE! HATE! ANGST!
ill join that hate,and raise it one rage.
invader zim was epic. the dark harvest episode was very strange though....
I'm up there with you guys, Zim was it back when it was on TV (still is in my opinion)
though, Dark Harvest doesn't even compare to the pot induced writing of their Christmas special...
Oh, right, hating on humanity.....uhhhhhhh.....fanatics....any sort of fanatic makes me lose hope for humanity when I see and or listen to them, it doesn't matter if they're religious, political, whatever...
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."-Winston Churchill
hahahahahahahahaha...Was it at one of the fallen friends?
Did you see them in the 90s?It was awesome too see them in the hay day!Insane shows.Insane crowds!
I try to be understanding of others, because I am all too aware of my own faults, but it's hard. Certain people like to act as if they are much smarter, cooler or more worthy than they really are, and I don't have the airfare to travel to whatever bridge they live under and blow it to smithereens. And why did I stop drinking again?
BoltThrower wrote:Most of you sound like stupid children. Get over yourselves. Disregard this if you are actually an adolescent.
Why? Ever worked in customer services? Ever had a 'customer' having a go at you on the phone, talking over you, because they know you just have to sit their and take it? It's ridiculous. Yet society, for some reason, demands that we be good as gold, just because money has changed hands. Why shouldn't I, when a customer is being stroppy and pushy for the sake of it, be allowed to simply say 'look mate, you're being a dick, and you're trying my patience. Go and read your fething policy, like you should have BEFORE you signed up to it, forming a legally binding contract. You will find, surprise surprise, that once again I am correct, and you are wrong. I don't give a flying proverbial WHAT your friend who is apparently a solicitor has told you, for he too is wrong.'
No, I have to sit there, and suck it up, trying to get a word in edge ways. People. Are. Scum. Simple. As soon as they think they can get away with it, they will be a knobend to you. Don't get me wrong, I actually enjoy my job, I'm an argumentative sod with a firm grasp of the English language (despite this posts inevitable spelling mistakes and grammatical errors). I make a point of learning what I need to to be right, especially in my professional life. But some people seriously, seriously try your patience. And all because for some unknown reason, we're just expected to be mindlessly polite and subservient, even when talking to a brainless moron incapable of accepting that they are wrong.
ADDENDUM. Might have come across as the very sort I was having a pop at. This isn't entirely accurate. Treat me with respect, and you'll get it back. When calling me at work to discuss your claim, please accept that being paid to do this, I will generally know more than you do. But treat me like a witch, and I demand the right to talk to you like a witch. The majority of my client's are perfectly reasonable people, and indeed, even when they aren't, I'm noted in my team for being able to defuse possible complaints before they really kick off. But trust me, some people just want to kick up a fuss, seemingly under the impression that if the piss me off enough, then their Policy Wording will magically change into whatever they want it to be. The worst....'I'm sorry sir, but you have chosen Third Party Fire and Theft cover. This means that we would not look to deal with your repairs directly. I have emailed you the details of the Third Party Insurer, you will have to claim through them'. 'WHAT! THIS IS DISCRIMINATION! WHAT DO I PAY YOU FOR? HOW DARE YOU NOT REPAIR MY VEHICLE! DO YOU TREAT PEOPLE WITH FULLY COMPREHENSIVE INSURANCE LIKE THIS? I THINK NOT! I DEMAND YOU REPAIR MY VEHICLE' 'Sir, you are correct, I would arrange the repairs to your vehicle if your policy was Fully Comprehensive. That is what Fully Comprehensive Insurance means, and why it costs more. As I stated earlier (repeat the bit about TPFT cover'. 'GRAAHA!!!!!I'MANUNREASONABLEARSEHOLEANDI'MGOINGTOGOTOTHEFOSANDTHEPRESSANDTHEQUEENANDI'LLSEEYOUSACKED'
Why do I have to put up with this?
TLDR, but was happy to skim.
I've done customer service for eight hours a day over telephone. Yelled at, screamed at, talked down to. I've had jobs stuffing envelopes. I've worked doing community outreach going door to door in "drug dens". Jack of all trades, I suppose. So yes, and I once felt as you did. But read some Nietzsche or something, and kinda toughen up a bit. I don't care for most people I see in the street, and don't want to know them. I think to place a general hatred towards humanity in your situation is a bit absurd. It seems it's the job and the various inequalities present in capitalism, not something with "people".
I have a job now which involves teaching the most difficult and violence prone students in an entire urban school district. I get spat on, assaulted and threatened daily (but they still learn the academics!). Today, I did an hour of restraints on a child, all the while he tried to bite me finger off. Do I find such things frustrating? Yes. Do I go home, carry it with me and feel like honking my horn extra hard if somebody cuts me off? Sometimes. But playing the pity me game is so fething old. I perhaps am fortunate in being able to find a type of life affirming joy in my work, but you can tell me you have a "hard job" when a teenager has tried to hit you in the head with a hammer. I have dear friends who are scraping by and in debt just to do jobs they love, (myself included), refusing to run the rat race. A little bit of personal agency wouldn't hurt...
Automatically Appended Next Post: ALSO, IF I WAS YOUR BOSS (SORRY NOT A PIG CAPITALIST BUREAUCRAT JUST THEORETICAL), I'D FIRE YOU ALL FOR YOUR DISDAIN FOR THE CUSTOMER
Dude, wasn't be angsty about the job, I actually enjoy my role. It's just I genuinely don't get why society expects me to just sit there and take it, when a quick 'stfu and listen to me you knobend' could speed things along nicely!
Funnily enough I was at court today...so yeah. The guys who were being convicted were alright (oh my god people get charged for the most minor things), it was the bloody lawyers that made me just want to kill everything in the room (bad choice in a court mind). Eugh, those guys are probably the most slimey, two faced people I've ever had to expeiriance- hell one of them was commiting more crimes than any of the accused, least according to the guy sitting next to me (apparently every go drug dealer gets represented by that guy). Anyhow, it felt really good to called the guy just what he was a few times today, hey everyone else was doing it (and no, these were normal people, the wannabe gangster was to my right). ¬¬
Monster Rain wrote:It was at the Middle East, actually.
There was nothing but feedback and a bunch of tweens running around in their crew t-shirts. Definitely not worth the drive.
Can't believe this thread turned into a Blood for Blood discussion. I saw them when they were at their "peak" so to speak, and it was the most terrifying thing as a 16 year old. I gave one of those records a spin a few months ago...OOOF.
I've never favoured cynicism, nor do I have any desire to pin the blame for my bad experiences on the rest of humanity. People can be selfish, petty and cruel, but a better future will always be worth fighting for.
We'll end the naysayers soon enough, or I'll just seduce them and make them do it for us.
