So dakkadakka.
My current gf and I had gotten into a pretty big fight and she blow up big time. she went to my work desk where i paint and assemble my models well i had just finished painting my blood angels. She walks over to the desk and flips it(glass table top) and breaks and bends about 600 dollars worth of spacemarine models counting some vehicals. Has this happened to anyone else what does one do i told her she needs to pay me back for costs and time spent on models as well as replacing my work desk. How would you guys/girls deal with such a problem.

What happened there is not okay on any level, time for a new girlfriend. Seriously, it's not worth the trouble, flipping a table is not a valid reaction to an arguement (assuming you did not strike her.)

Unreal. I don't think she realized just how expensive those models are, most people don't. You should get your money back for sure, then go throw her makeup in the trash and she how she reacts.

Break up.
File a claim for damages in small claims court.

Violent tempers aren't to be messed with.

If my gf does anything like that she is gonna get ripped by the chainsword and I am deadly serious!

100% agree with the break up. That is straight up unacceptable behavior. My fiancee' and I argue and fight but never has she threw/stomped/flipped my models in a fit of rage. Doesn't matter what the fight was about it is unacceptable. You should also demand that she pay you for broken models.

Time for a new gf and now a small claims case which has been said. Forget throwing the makeup into the trash, just throw the (hopefully now) ex-gf into the trash and get yourself a new model. (both army and gf)

If she is as crazy as she seems I would forgo attempts to get money back to have her out of my life forever! I have tried to collect money from crazy. You end up with crazy².

My advice to you, dump her... Quick.

What I would actually do if it was my girl, wait for her to apologize, accept her apology, and then wait patiently for her to do it again. However, my girl has lot's of redeeming features that make it well worth it, so that might enter into your decision as well.

Did you just sit back and watch this happen? It would take some time to go through $600 worth of stuff and destroy it. All that aside, no, I've never had something like that happen. Good luck getting the money out of her though...hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

stileprojekt wrote: She walks over to the desk and flips it(glass table top) and breaks and bends about 600 dollars worth of spacemarine models counting some vehicals.

I would think the models are sort of an incidental issue, here... If she's getting carried away enough to be throwing furniture around, she needs some help with anger management.

Whether it's worthy of a break-up rather than trying to resolve the issue would depend on just how serious the relationship is.

What was the cause of your fight?

If it was those miniatures, that might explain her reaction (not that it is ok, however). Sometimes anger make us do things we wouldn't do otherwise, it's up to you to choose if you want to forgive her, or not. But if you do, make it clear that there's a line not to cross, and that damaging things out of frustration isn't something she'll get away twice.


If it was completely unrelated, her destroying those was an act of cruelty, she wanted to really hurt you, so you might want to break up. And preemptively change any of your passwords she know about, better safe than sorry.

First, your Girlfriend has issues. Break up with her as flipping a glass table is not a proper outlet for her anger. It will only get worse. She doesn't sound like much of keeper anyhow.

Second, you need to verify the cost of the damage. Whatever cannot be fixed or salvaged needs to be priced out. Tell her she owes you for damages. Take pictures of the damaged goods as evidence. If she does not pay it's small claims court time.

Third don't make excuses for her. Get your money and move on. She intentionally targeted your stuff, it was not spur of the moment she knew that destroying these models would hurt you both financially and personally due to the time you invested in them.

If the actually model loss is relatively small (as opposed to time loss), you'll probably be better off psychologically just breaking up and walking away.

Every guy pays the crazy tax at some point.

Out of curiosity how big was this glass table she flipped? Just kinda wondering just how beasty is this girl?

Polonius wrote:If the actually model loss is relatively small (as opposed to time loss), you'll probably be better off psychologically just breaking up and walking away.

Every guy pays the crazy tax at some point.

Never really heard of it being referred to as the crazy tax, but your right, we have all paid it at some point.

Yeah breaking up with sounds the best option here.

She be crazy. :/

Polonius wrote:Break up.
File a claim for damages in small claims court.

Violent tempers aren't to be messed with.

This, assuming stuff is in fact irreparably damaged. I'm guessing you should be able to glue most of it back together into a good as new state. Your paintjob might need a touchup here and there, and its going to take time. If the desk is damaged though, I would definitely pursue damages for that.

To anwser a few questions, the fight was a about our car being broken down for a few days. with very little money to fix it at the current time. it was in a safe place were it would not be towed and had people looking over it.
when the fist started i had told her i was taking everything that was in my name ouf of the house b/c this is uncalled for. i was taking the computer i got her everything i had bought was coming with me. i was packing stuff up in a fit of rage and she walks to my desk throws a box fan and then rips the top of my desk of smashing my models.

the dmg cost for models i have ran up 2 new baal preds
the chasis is bent. marines about i have 60 jump pack marines id say 25 with special weapons can not be fixed.

my vanguard vets which were the metal figs i have 10 of them i have broken legs and arms and power fists were snapped in half.

my metal librarian was dmged both arms bent.
my stormravems 2x have been crushed and bent.

2x ven dreads bent and cracked
2x furioso dreads bent andc racked

chipped paint and cosmeic dmg done to everything.

I'd lose the GF, but honestly i wouldn't bother with small claims court stuff. I'd jus trepair stuff and paint over. maybe in vehicles if plastic is cracked a little green suff?glue and call it good enough. probably not worth seeing ms. crazy pants agian over

Commisar Wolfie wrote:Out of curiosity how big was this glass table she flipped? Just kinda wondering just how beasty is this girl?

2 feet by 4 feet.it was a thin piece of glass that was the top part of desk on a metal frame. very lite.

1. What did you do before that reaction.

2. What happend that you cant just fix them. I know nothing without chemicals that can ,,break" 40k models.

Dark Scipio wrote:1. What did you do before that reaction.

2. What happend that you cant just fix them. I know nothing without chemicals that can ,,break" 40k models.

1.before the reaction i was packing everything i had bought in the house i collected most of the stuff and was getting boxes to pack them away in my truck and get to a friends house.

2. cracks in big chuncks of plastic, snaped in half arms metal figures bent to the point if you bend back they will break apart. about 21 pots of paint spilled on the floor.

Drop the Crazy, take your stuff and get outta there. Anyone who flips out and breaks stuff (hulks out) needs a diferent place to live.

If she's hot I'd let it pass.

You know the OP's rank is perfect. Annoyed Devastator rofl.
Anyway she is a lunatic. get rid of her.

I don't care how hot the chick is, if she can go that crazy and start hulking out on the furniture it's only a matter of time until she hulks out and does bodily harm. Get a more stable model is my advice.

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I mean she has never done this and id figure someone who is a nurse and cares for people and all do something like this just erks me. and she hands are messed up from doing what she did. she slammed her hands on the desk. i mean im not giving her all the blame i was a factor in this but it should not have gone this far.

I don't really know where the question even lies. Sounds like you were headed on down the road anyway. Take the goods and hit the highway brother!

That's my initial assessment, and there's lots of factors that play into a situation like this. I don't know every detail of your personal and romantic life, but this chick sounds nuts. Like, Amy Fisher/Brynn Omdahl nuts. Walk out before they carry you out in a box.

I don't care who they are, if anyone EVER id that to my models i would slug them

Believe me. if i didnt want to get put in jail or want more problems. easier said than done. i cant have problems with the law my job counts on it.

No amount of pie is worth this aggravation. Take her to small claims court for damages, then bang her best friend. Problem...acceptably reciprocated.

Then I would make her pay for the damages, if she refuses then take her to court. Whether you stay with her or not up to you and how you feel aboiut her and the relationship :/

NuggzTheNinja wrote:No amount of pie is worth this aggravation. Take her to small claims court for damages, then bang her best friend. Problem...acceptably reciprocated.

ROFL!

I feel like this is a unstoppable force meets an immovableobject. You know what I mean? its like wtf we been here this long nothing like this ever happened before. i think we just need to seek something with this exp and go from there.


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So has this happened to anyone else in the dakkaverse?

Well... at least go for the angry sex man, here its wonderful.Might save your relationship, lol.

Just throwing it out there, its really easy for the rest of us to tell you to quit this girl, etc. but we have no emotional investment in this. That decision is really not one we can make for you or even really advise you. I know from experience (this didn't happen to me, it happened recently to a friend, but I was there holding his hand through most of it) that a girl can treat you like absolute scum, sleep with other guys, etc. and everyone in the world will tell you you can do better, and you will even get romantic/sexual advances from other girls that are way way more attractive and have much better personalities, etc. and you will still refuse to end the relationship because you're 'in love' and have a deep emotional investment.

If you do feel like the relationship is worth salvaging, then I probably wouldn't seek damages for the minis, but the way I see it, if she is worth keeping then she'll offer to cover the loss on her own once she has calmed down.

It's easy to say to quit her because this relationship will almost assuradely end badly. At this point it should at least end quickly.

Seriously, ask every guy you know if they ever dated a girl that did stuff like that. Than ask them if they're still together.

Polonius wrote:It's easy to say to quit her because this relationship will almost assuradely end badly. At this point it should at least end quickly.

Seriously, ask every guy you know if they ever dated a girl that did stuff like that. Than ask them if they're still together.

Again, see my post (the one above yours) on why we can tell him that 'til kingdom come, but our advice can't/won't really factor into his ultimate decision. Emotions make you blind to logic.

Oh, i"m not disagreeing with you, just hoping he'll avoid making a mistake.

thanks for all the outlooks to look for. i see i have alot of thinking to do and hopefully this can all be solved in a civil mannor. weather it be for staying together or breaking up leaving on bad terms is something i couldnt deal with.

You can't think like that, because it gives her power.

It only takes one person to change a relationship to being on bad terms. Why do you care what terms it ends on? It's different if you have kids together, but why sacrafice anything just to be on speaking terms with her?

Because speaking terms leaves the possibility for booty calls

Yes, you should probably break up. What was the argument about?

ChaosLordSam wrote:Yes, you should probably break up. What was the argument about?

As he said earlier, their car broke down.

Commisar Wolfie wrote:Because speaking terms leaves the possibility for booty calls

that's pretty much it, but you're not going to make a break up into a positive one. They happen naturally.

stileprojekt wrote:thanks for all the outlooks to look for. i see i have alot of thinking to do and hopefully this can all be solved in a civil mannor. weather it be for staying together or breaking up leaving on bad terms is something i couldnt deal with.

See what I mean? But I agree with Polonius, never think on those terms, that devalue's your self worth and gives her emotional, mental, and to an extent physical control over you.

I can't believe this thread has gotten to 2 pages without someone asking for pics....








...of the minis in their current state...

Very good people telling him to take her to small claims. Honesty, has anyone every heard of someone taking a girlfriend to small claims and winning, over toy soldiers?

If she's nuts it'll cause even more aggro, better off cutting her loose.

On the other hand, maybe she does need help. If it's hugely out of character and she's ended up hurting herself... well there could be issues that a group of painters and armchair tacticians can't help you with.

Couples counselling if you think it's worth it, she may have serious things that she hasn't discussed, I don't know. Either than or let her go. Don't push the cost of the figures either way, I can't see how that will end well.

Polonius wrote:Break up.
File a claim for damages in small claims court.

This.

Make fun of little toy soldiers all you want-- but the woman still destroyed SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS worth of property.

What would you do if someone took a sledgehammer to your car and caused six hundred dollars worth of damage?

I would call this an "ex girlfriend rampage" if you get my drift. If your significant other is crazy enough to break your stuff, he or she is not worth your time.

Step one: Change all passwords

step two: Break up

Step three: Judge Mathis

Step four: rent an apartment

step five: Rig a 357 to front door

step five b: rig a 357 to back door

step six: electric bars on windows

step seven: spend any remaining money from lawsuit to rebuild army.

step eight: Disregard steps 5-6.

Step Nine: Disregard step 8 if she begins to stalk you.

step ten: if step eight is disregarded, learn to dodge bullets.

Iur_tae_mont wrote:...

step five: Rig a 357 to front door

step five b: rig a 357 to back door

step six: electric bars on windows.

Please do not do this, it is quite dangerous to do so, it is also illegal in the USA.

Also Please do not advise anyone to do the above, as it is quite dangerous to do so, not to mention Illegal.

If, like you said, nothing like this happened before and she merely slammed her hands on the desk(without purposefully) flipping it, do couples counseling. If not, dump her, I had an ex(yes, she was hot) who did similar things when upset, this is what we call a red flag, look around for more or ask friends if they see any, I know most aren't seen until after the fact, DON'T BE LIKE ME!!!

You lost 600 dollars worth of freshly painted models? And you aint got money to fix a car? My advice, spend dough on car and girl, lose the hobby till your wallet is fatter.

My fiance threw my drop pod like a football against a wall. She almost put John Elway to shame.

BeefCakeSoup wrote:You lost 600 dollars worth of freshly painted models? And you aint got money to fix a car? My advice, spend dough on car and girl, lose the hobby till your wallet is fatter.

Good advice, but doesn't change the fact that his girlfriend is quite possibly flying rodent gak insane.

I support breaking up and filing a claim for damages.

He never said when all he bought the 600 worth of stuff just that it was how much all the freshly painted stuff was. Also I believe it was stated that the car unexpectedly broke down. Sadly in today's economy not everyone has a savings set aside for emergencies.

DeathReaper wrote:

Iur_tae_mont wrote:...

step five: Rig a 357 to front door

step five b: rig a 357 to back door

step six: electric bars on windows.

Please do not do this, it is quite dangerous to do so, it is also illegal in the USA.

Also Please do not advise anyone to do the above, as it is quite dangerous to do so, not to mention Illegal.

Sorry.
Was meant to be a joke, since any rational person would notice doing that would leave them no exits or entrances to their house. I'll be more clear next time (or at last make the punchline Tau and Space Marines. That seems to work for alot of other people around here)

OP: for reals advice would just be sue and break up, Maybe a restraining order if you felt it necessary

600 dollars of damage is just that. Get out of the line of fire. Get a secure place to live and stow your stuff. Get a restraining order first against her and then sue her for damages and stress.

Shadowsword8 wrote:What was the cause of your fight?

If it was those miniatures, that might explain her reaction (not that it is ok, however). Sometimes anger make us do things we wouldn't do otherwise, it's up to you to choose if you want to forgive her, or not. But if you do, make it clear that there's a line not to cross, and that damaging things out of frustration isn't something she'll get away twice.


If it was completely unrelated, her destroying those was an act of cruelty, she wanted to really hurt you, so you might want to break up. And preemptively change any of your passwords she know about, better safe than sorry.

I agree 100% with this post.

I am glad you made your armor save, but I still don't know why you didn't retaliate with 'BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!" I think that might have gotten your feelings across. In all seriousness I hope you move on. No one deserves to be in a bad relationship. (except you slanneshians, you like that stuff)

Polonius wrote:If the actually model loss is relatively small (as opposed to time loss), you'll probably be better off psychologically just breaking up and walking away.

Every guy pays the crazy tax at some point.

QFT - Yeah seriously. The trick is to not end up too high on the lethality scale.

Seriously: The Lethality Scale is a scale used to determine risk of danger in a relationship.

It rates risk like this:

1.Throwing things, punching the wall

2. Pushing, shoving, grabbing, throwing things at you

3. Slapping with an open hand

4. Kicking, biting

5. Hitting with closed fists

6. Attempted strangulation

7. Beating up, pinning to the wall or floor, repeated kicks and punches

8.Threatening with a weapon

9. Assault with a weapon

10. Attempted or Successful murder.

Your girl is at a 2. Once someone gets to 5, there is a very high probability of a rapid, or instant increase to level 10. That is why crisis counselors advise that once someone starts throwing things (Level 1) seek help... she is at 2 bro, you are quickly running out of time. Get her some help, or GTFO.

Don't be a statistic. It sucks, but seriously do something soon.

I would definately get my own place. If you want to still see her, fine, but put some space between you two for now. If she is still crazy just cut it off. Get help, see someone, document everything.

My 2 cents.

First of all, seek a lawyer or paralegal. Get pictures of the models post trauma. Don't repair the models until you do so. Try and also get counseling if you are going to choose to stay together. Her throwing stuff at you, should not be a valid reaction to anything in an arguement.

Second. Change your passwords to everything, don't leave any passwords lying around, withdraw anything in a joint account thats yours if you share it with her. Keep your stuff in your own room and keep her out of the room, lock with a padlock.

Thirdly, don't taunt with models. What I mean by that is try and spend time with her, or other friends more. If she's relaliated against your models, she knows they will hurt you.

Beachez be crazy.

Shoulda had a heavier desk.

Time to get all commisar on her....

Break up, she is a person that doesnt want you to have a life/hobby. She wants that she gets all your attention, fancy mirrors and shiny fings, she wants that you give her stuff, and that you dont buy things for yourself. Ofcourse, I can be wrong, but its obvious that she wants that 6000 dollar bag instead of you collecting toy soldiers As I already said, I can be wrong, but thats how many woman are, mostly caring about themselfs. Not all of them are like that, but many are. She was (in her anger) clearly intend on breaking your models (toy soldiers). If she was out on destruction, she would merely threw off the curtains, slam the tv etc. No, she doesnt seem very nice in that ffew sentences about her. Albeit you dont think it, she was guilty. Even if you are mad, you know that when you slam things, it breaks, falls or more things like that. You also know that things that are on it will break, fall, etc. Allright, she is a nurse. However, it can be a very frustrating job ecause you have all those people that you need to help and so on. Especially some irretating elderly people who scream every 10 seconds 'NURSE!' because their water isnt tasty enough (its water after all). No, she doesnt seem very nice to me, but ask her how she feels about it. Indeed, the best she can do is buy all your Scions of Sanguinius back for you. Hope it might help, it proboably wont, its me, but good luck with it anyways.
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Dr. Thenoobbomb

Get a place of your own, get her to pay you back for the minis, keep seeing her but at her place, learn MMA, keep an eye out for weapons.

Crazy sex is often very good, after all.

stileprojekt wrote:
To anwser a few questions, the fight was a about our car being broken down for a few days. with very little money to fix it at the current time. it was in a safe place were it would not be towed and had people looking over it.
when the fist started i had told her i was taking everything that was in my name ouf of the house b/c this is uncalled for. i was taking the computer i got her everything i had bought was coming with me. i was packing stuff up in a fit of rage and she walks to my desk throws a box fan and then rips the top of my desk of smashing my models.

Smashing your stuff up is uncool, if she is any kind of girlfriend she would know how much time and effort you put into the hobby and respect that, but it sounds like you were acting like a bit of a tit as well. What was the fight over exactly as you don't say what actually caused it, just that it was about your car being off the road?

If you spent the 600 Dollars on your stupid plastic men, as my girlfriends calls them, rather than getting the car fixed then sorry buddy, I have no sympathy for you. When you are in a relationship it's all about prioritizing. If you need the car for the school or shopping run, then you get the car fixed.

If you don't fight a lot then there might be something else that she's concerned about underneath that, generally with my misses if we have a benny there is a catalyst that starts it off, but with her being upset about other things thats she's scared or worried about.

Pilau Rice wrote:Smashing your stuff up is uncool, if she is any kind of girlfriend she would know how much time and effort you put into the hobby and respect that, but it sounds like you were acting like a bit of a tit as well. What was the fight over exactly as you don't say what actually caused it, just that it was about your car being off the road?

If you spent the 600 Dollars on your stupid plastic men, as my girlfriends calls them, rather than getting the car fixed then sorry buddy, I have no sympathy for you. When you are in a relationship it's all about prioritizing. If you need the car for the school or shopping run, then you get the car fixed.

If you don't fight a lot then there might be something else that she's concerned about underneath that, generally with my misses if we have a benny there is a catalyst that starts it off, but with her being upset about other things thats she's scared or worried about.

I had a lot of this with my ex-wife.
Since I said ex, take my comments with a pinch of salt, but if there's stuff getting smashed, there's probably something else wrong that might not get brought up.
We got sent to councelling, and it helped to find the main problem. Whether it helps, that's up to you two.

Financial issues always cause trouble, which often just gets in the way of any other issues. A bill to fix the car might not be that big, but we found it might just be too much.

Its your own fault for having a glass table. Glass goes in windows, it belongs nowhere else.

Skinnereal wrote:
I had a lot of this with my ex-wife.
Since I said ex, take my comments with a pinch of salt, but if there's stuff getting smashed, there's probably something else wrong that might not get brought up.
We got sent to councelling, and it helped to find the main problem. Whether it helps, that's up to you two.

Financial issues always cause trouble, which often just gets in the way of any other issues. A bill to fix the car might not be that big, but we found it might just be too much.

Are you directing this too me or are you reiterating my post, as you've pretty much said exactly what I have, minus the counseling part, but quoted me

Pilau Rice wrote:Are you directing this too me or are you reiterating my post, as you've pretty much said exactly what I have, minus the counseling part, but quoted me

I was pointing out that I seemed to have had similar to what you'd said.

I should maybe have quoted you and posted "This.", but I got carried away.

My fiance threw my drop pod like a football against a wall. She almost put John Elway to shame.

Did you roll on the deepstrike mishap table?

@OP - for sensible advice I'd go with the majority of posters and say 'run away'. But, as some of these wise internet gurus have mentioned, if your GF is hot and you get some angry and/or makeup sex (particularly the really naughty kind!) then you might want to roll with it a little longer.

I second the call for pics! (wrecked models, GF, random funny stuff - whatever you like!).

Mr. DK wrote:Beachez be crazy.

Ugh.

I know the thread's practically asking for misogynistic comments like this and that dumb image macro above it, but come on...

Apparently all girlfriends who break up with guys are crazy, and you should only ever listen to his point of view, because hers isn't important.

thenoobbomb wrote: Ofcourse, I can be wrong, but its obvious that she wants that 6000 dollar bag instead of you collecting toy soldiers As I already said, I can be wrong, but thats how many woman are, mostly caring about themselfs. Not all of them are like that, but many are.

That's not just women, that's people in general. The comment on the 6000 dollar bag is kinda sexist, as is your whole post.

Toastedandy wrote:Its your own fault for having a glass table. Glass goes in windows, it belongs nowhere else.

Crazy girlfriend in question spotted.

Like what's already been said, get outta dodge. Pack up, move out, dump her now. Or if you own the place, throw her out. Though I don't think it's worth the headache of trying to get money out of her for what she broke. Just ditch her now. When the dust settles, go over your broke models and see what you can fix, whatever is beyond repair can become terrain pieces or dead-marine objective markers

ok, not that I would have a lot of experience in the matter, but I know for a fact that talking always helps. I wouldn't suggest immediately breaking up, but have you talked with your gf every since the fight? If you could, then find out exactly WHY she did what she did. That way you can see what the problem is and find a better solution. Maybe she felt you were spending too much time on the models when you should have tried to get your car fixed etc. Of course if you do break up, you should try to get your money back, but I don't really recommend going legal about it. People who don't play Warhammer (or collect models) would just see your damaged stuff as mere 'toys' and not worth that much trouble.

Melissia wrote:

Mr. DK wrote:Beachez be crazy.

Ugh.

I know the thread's practically asking for misogynistic comments like this and that dumb image macro above it, but come on...

Apparently all girlfriends who break up with guys are crazy, and you should only ever listen to his point of view, because hers isn't important.

Hey, it's only because the girls who never break up with guys are dating donkey-caves.

This is simple. You were already packing to get out of there. So follow your plan get out and get away.

Don't go after damages. It isn't worth the legal hassle. Consider that you have to find a lawyer, go through all the time and money up front to follow the case through and have no guarantee(sp?) of getting $1 back.

If your Space Marines are too fethed up, then convert them to Orks!!

Crazy escalates. Keep safe.

Melissia wrote:

Mr. DK wrote:Beachez be crazy.

Ugh.

I know the thread's practically asking for misogynistic comments like this and that dumb image macro above it, but come on...

Apparently all girlfriends who break up with guys are crazy, and you should only ever listen to his point of view, because hers isn't important.

Sorry Melissia, but you're a bit off on this one.

If she had thrown something like a glass or a single tank, then I'd agree with you that it was frustration and not crazy. That's a reasonable response with anger.

She freaking FLIPPED A TABLE.

That's not a reasonable response(for either sex) and is indicative of deeper issues, either psychologically or in how she views the relationship.

stileprojekt wrote:
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So has this happened to anyone else in the dakkaverse?

My answer to this is no. My wife is an enabling sex-pot. I don't have enough time to paint because of it, but she doesn't hesitate to buy me models. Hooray!

Polonius wrote:Break up.
File a claim for damages in small claims court.

Violent tempers aren't to be messed with.

This man.. Id be super pissed!

If my missus smashed my models up during an argument, its breakupville baby!

My advice:

1) Break up with her.

2) Have a police escort with you when you go get your stuff.

3) Accept the fact that you will never see the money for those models. You may try and recover it, but it most likely won't go well.

4) Embrace the opportunity to start an army other than Blood Angels.

Well.. In my opinion (and i'm warning you know it's not always right nor good) then you should seek counseling, talk to her find out why she freaks this much out, just make sure not to raise your voice too much and remember the golden rule: Never EVER EVER hit a woman, because woman beaters deserve everything that come at them.

All this above is my opinion and point of view.

Platuan4th wrote:

Melissia wrote:

Mr. DK wrote:Beachez be crazy.

Ugh.

I know the thread's practically asking for misogynistic comments like this and that dumb image macro above it, but come on...

Apparently all girlfriends who break up with guys are crazy, and you should only ever listen to his point of view, because hers isn't important.

Sorry Melissia, but you're a bit off on this one.

If she had thrown something like a glass or a single tank, then I'd agree with you that it was frustration and not crazy. That's a reasonable response with anger.

She freaking FLIPPED A TABLE.

That's not a reasonable response(for either sex) and is indicative of deeper issues, either psychologically or in how she views the relationship.

If this was a girl talking about a guy flipping out and smashing her stuff the advice would be the same. Leave this person immediately.

The kneejerk cries of misogyny are laughable.

Polonius wrote:Break up.
File a claim for damages in small claims court.

Violent tempers aren't to be messed with.

Polonius is wise in the ways of the...whatever.

Step 1: Break up.

Step 2: Small claims court.

Step 3: Start wearing a cup if you know she'll be near.

Monster Rain wrote:If this was a girl talking about a guy flipping out and smashing her stuff the advice would be the same. Leave this person immediately.

The kneejerk cries of misogyny are laughable.

In fairness, I think she was talking about the very few generalist comments deriding women as a whole that have popped up over the course of the thread, rather than the specific case outlined by the OP. Of course, there's never an excuse for wanton destruction of property. The overall response should be measured against the seriousness of the relationship. If it's a relationship the OP really wants to salvage, some form of counselling is a must - as others have said, erratic tempers are dismissed lightly at one's peril. If the OP does not consider it a relationship worth salvaging, the sensible option is to leave her and file a small claims suit.

Yeah, never hit a woman... well, anyone if you can help it.

Seriously, while it may seem wimpy, the biggest reality check a woman (or anyone for that matter...) can get is to be called to account legally for a temper tantrum or outburst. If you respond in kind, all you do is justify their anger.

Sure, it'll be the end of your relationship, but it's better to end the relationship than to have that kind of thing hanging over your head. That kind of aggressiveness has an underlying cause you might not want to face in a few years. Especially if her response was out of proportion to the cause.

Besides, think of it this way, while you might be out $600 bucks, you have saved yourself a lot of trouble should she decide later on to try and up the ante. In addition, if the reality check works, you may have saved another guy from falling into the same trap.

You'll both have learned something.

I was in a similar situation a few years back with a "former" gf that decided my 3 month old Ducati 1098 was a Pinata. There were signs for a while that she had anger issues. Had I nipped the relationship in the bud earlier I could have saved myself a lot of unnecessary heartache.

The actual cause of the argument hasn't be explained, only what it was about. So her actions are over the top but maybe the OP tore the head off of her favorite Barbie doll or worse.

The full circumstance hasn't been explained here. Just that the argument had been about their off the road car and then all of a sudden he's moving out and she's flipped the table over.

Somethings got to have happened or have been said to have narked her off so much. The OP has even said that this is the first time it has happened.

and my friend ask why I don't date

Well a lot of people have chimed in.

some thoughts.

1.) you are not telling the whole story obviously since you were packing all your stuff when she did this. Which you don't have to of course.

2.) If she hurt her hands badly doing this obviously she was not able to control her self or her anger, and needs counseling for herself regardless of you and her.

3.) If you value her and she values you, and I dont want you to romanticize it and make it somethings its not if its not that, but if you do. You can seek a 3rd neutral party as intervention, ie counseling. It may help you two rebuild a relationship if its worth it to BOTH of you. Given that you were packing your stuff up before she slammed the table over it probably isn't.

4.) If you bought something for her, its hers. Let it go. If you bought something that was ya'lls then you can fight over it.

5.) Your legal fees will probably be more than the models are worth. Most good lawyers are 500 us an hour, and charge in 10 minute increments including writing emails, reading emails, and listening to voice mails, sending voice mails, phone conversations. I assure you they are doing the Charleston on their desk and wracking up the minutes every time you need them. Unless you feel like you would be in danger in the process of leaving her, or after, and need a restraining order I would not bother getting a lawyer.


I had an ex accidentally break my first dark eldar raider and throw it away without telling me what happened about 10 years ago. She thought I would be upset, honestly I didn't care that she broke it, however I was a little worried she didn't tell me because it was annoying spendining multiple hours looking through all of my possessions trying to find it It didn't affect our relationship.

megabambam wrote: Never EVER EVER hit a woman, because woman beaters deserve everything that come at them.

All this above is my opinion and point of view.

I gave a woman a swift uppercut after she hit me over the nut with a bottle of WKD on a night out in Exmouth. I took the blow, put my palm to my head and when it came away red, i was ready for action. She lifted her arm again and I knocked the bint out.

She deserved it, and I feel i showed remarkable restraint by not kicking her a few times when she was down, but then, im a gentleman.

So id say that you should only ever hit a woman if she is armed and you are concerned that she could actually hurt you.

I commend you as a gentleman sir in defense of his own well being and safety.

if anyone regardless of gender is trying to assault you in seriousness, put them down as swiftly as possible if the confrontation cannot be avoided.

Be cool, slowly move your stuff out over the course of a few weeks until hopefully she's forgotten about the whole deal...
Weeks later, kiss her goodbye one morning. When she's gone out get the last of your stuff out, call the talking clock in Azerbaijan, leave the phone off the hook, go out & leave her door open, preferably with a 'FREE STUFFZ ->' sign outside.

Alternatively just sleep with her sister/best friend/mother.

Cold, calculating revenge may well be puerile, but it often leads to some highly amusing text messages (to be posted on facebook)

megabambam wrote:Never EVER EVER hit a woman, because woman beaters deserve everything that come at them.

I think you're using "hit" improperly, as a synonym for "abuse." I would have no qualms about striking a women in self-defense, but domestic abuse (women/wife/girlfriend beating) is done strictly to intimidate or cause pain, and you have to be sick in the head (literally insane) to condone such behavior.

Platuan4th wrote:Sorry Melissia, but you're a bit off on this one.

No I'm not. "B****es be crazy" is referring to all women.

Daedricbob wrote:Alternatively just sleep with her sister/best friend/mother.

I assume this is all at once, yes? For maximum effectiveness.

Monster Rain wrote:The kneejerk cries of misogyny are laughable.

Seems to me the knee-jerk response from most is to dump her, and take her to small claims court, rather that look at any further issues. None of us knows what is going on in her life, maybe she's not nuts but has difficulties that an army of toy men are placed second to in the heat of the moment. It was after all an outburst not a planned piece of malicious action because she's badly hurt he hands while breaking the table.

I'm not clear what happened. People say she 'flipped the table over' because the OP said...

She walks over to the desk and flips it...

But later on he says...

...she slammed her hands on the desk...

Which sounds like she banged her hands on the table and they went through the glass top injuring herself. Which isn't quite 'the same as flipping it over'.

Anyway, there's a bit of a gap in this between her never being aggressive in this manner before and them having an argument over the cost of the car and then him 'packing stuff up in a fit of rage' and suddenly stuff is being trashed by her. Can't help thinking there's a few bits missing here.



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Anyway, I guess the misogyny comment is probably directed towards posters responses like...

No amount of pie is worth this aggravation. Take her to small claims court for damages, then bang her best friend. Problem...acceptably reciprocated.

Beachez be crazy.

She wants that she gets all your attention, fancy mirrors and shiny fings, she wants that you give her stuff... its obvious that she wants that 6000 dollar bag instead of you collecting toy soldiers... thats how many woman are, mostly caring about themselfs

etc.

This may be because im a peaceful person but i think hitting of any kind is wrong

OP: I think you should go to a professional to try and make the relationship work, depending on how serious the relationship is

Melissia wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:Sorry Melissia, but you're a bit off on this one.

No I'm not. "B****es be crazy" is referring to all women.

Not necessarily.

He might have been referring to multiple, specific "bitches". You're inferring the "all women" bit.

Honestly.

Whether or not the statement referred to specific bitches or bitches more generally, it's a bit sexist to refer to any bitch -- even one who's a real bitch -- as a bicth, isn't it? I mean, you could just say that a certain woman is a jerk.

Harriticus wrote:If she's hot I'd let it pass.

Yup

Howard A Treesong wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:The kneejerk cries of misogyny are laughable.

Seems to me the knee-jerk response from most is to dump her, and take her to small claims court, rather that look at any further issues.

You left out a pretty important part of the post that you quoted.

If your significant other destroys your property in anger, and you tell a normal person this, their reaction will probably tell you that this isn't someone to be in a relationship with.

Seriously.

http://www.helpguide.org/mental/domestic_violence_abuse_types_signs_causes_effects.htm

Specifically:

Does your partner:

have a bad and unpredictable temper?
hurt you, or threaten to hurt or kill you?
threaten to take your children away or harm them?
threaten to commit suicide if you leave?
force you to have sex?
destroy your belongings?

The double standard here is hysterical. I'm sure if it was a woman complaining about her boyfriend destroying her property people would be on here saying "Are you sure you weren't deserving of the treatment you received?"

Blaming the victim, dakkanauts? For shame!

Manchu wrote:Honestly.

Whether or not the statement referred to specific bitches or bitches more generally, it's a bit sexist to refer to any bitch -- even one who's a real bitch -- as a bicth, isn't it?

Rude, maybe. Sexist, possibly not. I suppose it would depend on whether it is being used accurately and not just as a general term for a female, in which case it would indeed be sexist.

merriam-webster wrote:b : a malicious, spiteful, or overbearing woman

I hate to post twice, but I've been there!

Fights happen in relationships. We're human. However, there is no justification for abuse, physical, financial or otherwise. If this kind of thing happens in your relationship regardless of the cause, you don't need to be together... something is broken here.

It might seem trivial now to some degree (it's just miniatures) , but If you don't do something to nip it in the bud you'll regret it later.

Just some advice...

Right, I mean it refers to being a woman specifically rather than a gender neutral term. Even when a man is called a bitch, the term is used to put down women -- i.e., you are not being what is good (a man) but rather acting shamefully (like a woman). Anyway, I'm not here to fight the good fight of sexual equality -- let's just please be polite to one another.

Monster Rain wrote:The double standard here is hysterical. I'm sure if it was a woman complaining about her boyfriend destroying her property people would be on here saying "Are you sure you weren't deserving of the treatment you received?"

Blaming the victim, dakkanauts? For shame!

There's a bit of a difference between blaming the victim by asking if they were deserving of it, and simply stating that they may be more to what's going on than we've been told. I haven't suggested that he was deserving of it in any way, but that if there were much greater issues then I'd at least understand it better than writing her off as a psycho.

In what circumstances is destroying someone else's things, especially something that they have put a lot of time and effort and money into, not psycho?

Honestly dump her and demand she pays for every thing. Like its one thing to have a fight its another thing to just freak out and go after some ones stuff

Howard A Treesong wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:The double standard here is hysterical. I'm sure if it was a woman complaining about her boyfriend destroying her property people would be on here saying "Are you sure you weren't deserving of the treatment you received?"

Blaming the victim, dakkanauts? For shame!

There's a bit of a difference between blaming the victim by asking if they were deserving of it, and simply stating that they may be more to what's going on than we've been told. I haven't suggested that he was deserving of it in any way, but that if there were much greater issues then I'd at least understand it better than writing her off as a psycho.

What bearing does any of that extra stuff have on someone's significant other destroying their things? The correct answer to the question "My girlfriend/boyfriend destroys my personal property, what should I do?" is "Leave them."

Period.

Manchu wrote:In what circumstances is destroying someone else's things, especially something that they have put a lot of time and effort and money into, not psycho?

For truth, quoted.

Polonius wrote:Break up.
File a claim for damages in small claims court.

Violent tempers aren't to be messed with.

Monster Rain wrote:The correct answer to the question "My girlfriend/boyfriend maliciously destroys my personal property, what should I do?" is "Leave them."

Period.

Amended. After all, while not applicable in this case according to the OP, honest accidents can happen - especially where hordes of small, fragile plastic tanks are concerned.

stileprojekt wrote:

Dark Scipio wrote:1. What did you do before that reaction.

2. What happend that you cant just fix them. I know nothing without chemicals that can ,,break" 40k models.

1.before the reaction i was packing everything i had bought in the house i collected most of the stuff and was getting boxes to pack them away in my truck and get to a friends house.

2. cracks in big chuncks of plastic, snaped in half arms metal figures bent to the point if you bend back they will break apart. about 21 pots of paint spilled on the floor.

SOunds like you were already bailing. best thing for it. I would document everything.

Going to court is iffy only in whether or not you need further drama. On the positive filing in small claiks court puts her on notice to stay the away. if she starts harassing her get a TRO against her. I've had long term crazy, you don't need long term crazy in your life.

Manchu wrote:In what circumstances is destroying someone else's things, especially something that they have put a lot of time and effort and money into, not psycho?

Well how deliberate was it? Did she flip the table or did it just break under her hitting it? If she injured herself on broken glass then she may have got upset and done some deliberate damage, sure, doesn't mean it was malicious in the way people want it to be. Had he come back from the shops and found everything cut up then it would be a bit clearer.

When someone fills in the gap between them starting an argument about the repair for a car and then him 'packing stuff up in a rage' and her apparently going uncharacteristically crazy, I'll be happier.

Mythal wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:The correct answer to the question "My girlfriend/boyfriend maliciously destroys my personal property, what should I do?" is "Leave them."

Period.

Amended.

Fair enough.

Yeah, if it's actually an accident obviously you don't have to run screaming from the apartment.


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Howard A Treesong wrote:Well how deliberate was it? Did she flip the table or did it just break under her hitting it?

Why does it matter?

Someone is still destroying furniture. Does the manner in which the table was broken really have that much bearing on the issue.

Was the table thrown out the window? Was there a beverage on the table at the time? What time was it? What color is her hair?

Doctadeth wrote:First of all, seek a lawyer or paralegal. Get pictures of the models post trauma. Don't repair the models until you do so. Try and also get counseling if you are going to choose to stay together. Her throwing stuff at you, should not be a valid reaction to anything in an arguement.

Second. Change your passwords to everything, don't leave any passwords lying around, withdraw anything in a joint account thats yours if you share it with her. Keep your stuff in your own room and keep her out of the room, lock with a padlock.

Thirdly, don't taunt with models. What I mean by that is try and spend time with her, or other friends more. If she's relaliated against your models, she knows they will hurt you.

You were good right up until the last point.
I'll go with this from the viewpoint of a Dad. No child deserves crazy. If you're smart you're gone and stay gone.


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Melissia wrote:

Mr. DK wrote:Beachez be crazy.

Ugh.

I know the thread's practically asking for misogynistic comments like this and that dumb image macro above it, but come on...

Apparently all girlfriends who break up with guys are crazy, and you should only ever listen to his point of view, because hers isn't important.

When she starts tossing furniture, its not.

Melissia wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:Sorry Melissia, but you're a bit off on this one.

No I'm not. "B****es be crazy" is referring to all women.

This is so wrong..

Its "B****es be crazy BE referring to all women"

Even I know that, and I don't even listen to rap music.

megabambam wrote:Well.. In my opinion (and i'm warning you know it's not always right nor good) then you should seek counseling, talk to her find out why she freaks this much out, just make sure not to raise your voice too much and remember the golden rule: Never EVER EVER hit a woman, because woman beaters deserve everything that come at them.

Also, you people who say "if she's hot, I'd let it pass" are just as bad and you guys are the ones that allow women to go cheat on you with 5 other guys and then come home and say "I have a headache" when you want to have sex. Way to look out for yourselves. I don't care who the girl is, if she messes up my crap, she's gone.

Monster Rain wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:

Howard A Treesong wrote:Well how deliberate was it? Did she flip the table or did it just break under her hitting it?

Why does it matter?

Someone is still destroying furniture. Does the manner in which the table was broken really have that much bearing on the issue.

Well in seriousness, yes it does, if that wasn't her explicit intention.

Melissia wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:Sorry Melissia, but you're a bit off on this one.

No I'm not. "B****es be crazy" is referring to all women.

Yes, because everyone in this thread has posted that or agrees with that.

You are way off on this by applying what 2 posters have said(most likely jokingly) to what everyone is saying .

Seriously, get down off your high horse.

Or, in case the highly reasonable and perfectly logical thought never crossed your mind, maybe I'm referring to the two specific posts that I mentioned?

Well that wasn't nice at all!

Commisar Wolfie wrote:Because speaking terms leaves the possibility for booty calls

this.

Melissia wrote:Or, in case the highly reasonable and perfectly logical thought never crossed your mind, maybe I'm referring to the two specific posts that I mentioned?

Melissia wrote:Apparently all girlfriends who break up with guys are crazy, and you should only ever listen to his point of view, because hers isn't important.

This is probably the part that was is drawing the most criticism.

Your point of view, as has been pointed out earlier in the thread, doesn't mean a damn once the furniture starts flying.

Howard A Treesong wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:

Howard A Treesong wrote:Well how deliberate was it? Did she flip the table or did it just break under her hitting it?

Why does it matter?

Someone is still destroying furniture. Does the manner in which the table was broken really have that much bearing on the issue.

Well in seriousness, yes it does, if that wasn't her explicit intention.

If it happened that she accidentally flipped over the table I can see your point.

Manchu wrote:In what circumstances is destroying someone else's things, especially something that they have put a lot of time and effort and money into, not psycho?

Further, understanding a psycho doesn't mean they are still not psycho. Even if not psycho, if she's at that point those two are not a good fit and need to move along.

Vladsimpaler wrote:
Also, you people who say "if she's hot, I'd let it pass" are just as bad and you guys are the ones that allow women to go cheat on you with 5 other guys and then come home and say "I have a headache" when you want to have sex. Way to look out for yourselves. I don't care who the girl is, if she messes up my crap, she's gone.

Totally man, that blokes post made me want to vomit.

Why do men swallow this BS? "Never ever ever hit a woman ever, go get counselling if she attacks you, I mean, you must have deserved it really"

How about, its 2011, women and men are equal so a fair deal is, I wont hit my missus when we argue, and in return she doesn't get a free pass to try and beat me up?

Ive regaled my missus with many of my amusing yarns about chinning women, and considering how many aggressive militant drunken wimmin live in the UK ive got plenty.

We've lived together for two years, more or less happily, but occasionally when she has freaked she has told me after the fact "I was so angry I would have hit you, but I know you would hit me back so I never do"

So the sensible, fair "dont hit me and I wont hit you" approach tends to work for mutual harmony!

If you constantly tell your missus that no matter what she does ever then you wont raise a glove and its probably your fault anyways, your asking for trouble and I hope she pops a glass in your cheek and you need 40 stitches.

You loser.

Howard A Treesong wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:

Howard A Treesong wrote:Well how deliberate was it? Did she flip the table or did it just break under her hitting it?

Why does it matter?

Someone is still destroying furniture. Does the manner in which the table was broken really have that much bearing on the issue.

Well in seriousness, yes it does, if that wasn't her explicit intention.

No that just means she's an idiot. Punching glass is not a sign of intelligence. Bad breeding material, won't someone think of the (mouthbreathing) children?

Intelligence doesn't really factor much into rage. I doubt an intelligent person would want to punch their wall, either. But get one mad enough, and they very well could put a hole there.

Melissia wrote:Intelligence doesn't really factor much into rage. I doubt an intelligent person would want to punch their wall, either. But get one mad enough, and they very well could put a hole there.

Believe it or not, most people don't experience rages where they are unable to stop themselves from punching or destroying inanimate objects.

The type of person that does do these things needs therapy and possibly medication.

Troy wrote:No that just means she's an idiot. Punching glass is not a sign of intelligence. Bad breeding material, won't someone think of the (mouthbreathing) children?

Well yeah, by "accident" I mean by means of a clumsy or unintentional action.

If you punch something in a rage and break it, you are a lunatic.

Melissia wrote:Intelligence doesn't really factor much into rage. I doubt an intelligent person would want to punch their wall, either. But get one mad enough, and they very well could put a hole there.

Even more people to run away from.

@Monster Rain: True -- folks often make the mistake of believing in "blind rage." Don't worry, however, the court will impute intentionality even if you chose not to believe in it!

Melissia wrote:

Mr. DK wrote:Beachez be crazy.

Ugh.

I know the thread's practically asking for misogynistic comments like this and that dumb image macro above it, but come on...
Apparently all girlfriends who break up with guys are crazy, and you should only ever listen to his point of view, because hers isn't important.

Hers is too. However, there are many occasions it doesnt make any sense. Probably, she doesnt like his hobby. She doesnt respect it. However, he has to respect her hobby.

Now, everyone knows women think different then men, and many of them are more slefish then men. This is not to insult you nor any other female human (if you can call women 'human' at all.. ), but something that is fairly clear.
That cleared up by the wise, old thenoobbomb, we can go further

If you would like to say anything to me, please call me 'honoured lord thenoobbomb, the wise one'

One of the smartest kids at my school punched through a wall once.

Now thats cool, coolyo.

Thanks. I just thought I should throw that out there because we were talking about smart people not punching through walls.

thenoobbomb wrote:Now, everyone knows women [...] are more slefish then men.

No.

Seriously, no. Just stop.

mattyrm wrote:So the sensible, fair "dont hit me and I wont hit you" approach tends to work for mutual harmony!

Every social interaction between men involves at some level the knowledge that physical violence could result. I've met a lot of women who never even considered this -- until they got hit by a man. I'm not just talking about a man hitting a woman who is talking a lot of gak to him but also the case where a woman will hit or otherwise batter a man and get hit, etc, in response. They were absolutely shocked that such a thing could happen -- whereas, like I said, for us men we always have that in the back of our heads.

coolyo294 wrote:Thanks. I just thought I should throw that out there because we were talking about smart people not punching through walls.

Smart doesn't necessarily equate to good dating material.

coolyo294 wrote:One of the smartest kids at my school punched through a wall once.

Was it inside the school? I'm asking because every school I attended had CMU walls. Very little drywall.

Melissia wrote:

thenoobbomb wrote:Now, everyone knows women [...] are more slefish then men.

No.

Seriously, no. Just stop.

Shot Down.

@Nerivant: No, it was at his house because he didn't want to go to church.

Troy wrote:

coolyo294 wrote:Thanks. I just thought I should throw that out there because we were talking about smart people not punching through walls.

Smart doesn't necessarily equate to good dating material.

Smart could mean a lot of things, like "performs well in standardized tests." It could also not mean a lot of things, like "emotionally mature and able to interact socially."

coolyo294 wrote:@Nerivant: No, it was at his house because he didn't want to go to church.

We have a saying down here. It's "yer gonna worshup the good Lord or imma belt ya inta next week."

Rage can come from funny places, sometimes.

Melissia wrote:

thenoobbomb wrote:Now, everyone knows women [...] are more slefish then men.

No.

Seriously, no. Just stop.

Lets start the war of the worlds against Melissia! Forgive me.

Now, Im not meaning that ALL women are, but many are. For instance, if they have 'their period' they will get in rage against men. I know, it isnt nice, but hey, why is it our fault?
However, that is it from me.

Tell me, how do women see men? Im interrested, I think like a man (how you can see that is your choice )

coolyo294 wrote:@Nerivant: No, it was at his house because he didn't want to go to church.

Then what happened?

Seriously though, being smart doesn't preclude being a lunatic.

Ever hear of Rodney Alcala?

He broke his wrist.

How undignified.

coolyo294 wrote:He broke his wrist.

Always check for studs before punching a wall in a show of anger and manliness.

It was pretty funny and we got to make fun of him for a while.

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