Well This shalt be the Log of my Efforts for constructing Terrain for a custom table to be used at Da BoyzGT 2011

2 Large ruins (three level, three floor. apx 20"x10"x meh" triangle)

Lruin 1 (cast, Assembled, Spackled, Pre Paint Detail added, Primed, Painted, Weathered, Posterized )

Lruin 2 (cast, Assembled, Spackled, Pre Paint Detail added, Primed, Painted, Weathered, Posterized )


5 Medium Ruins (two level, two floor apx 12"x 6" triangle)

Mruin 1 (cast, Assembled, Spackled, Sanded, Pre Paint Detail added, Primed, Painted, Weathered, Posterized )

Mruin 2 (cast, Assembled, Spackled, Sanded, Pre Paint Detail added, Primed, Painted, Weathered, Posterized )

Mruin 3 (cast, Assembled, Spackled, Sanded, Pre Paint Detail added, Primed, Painted, Weathered, Posterized )

Mruin 4 (cast, Assembled, Spackled, Sanded, Pre Paint Detail added, Primed, Painted, Weathered, Posterized )

Mruin 5 (cast, Assembled, Spackled, Sanded, Pre Paint Detail added, Primed, Painted, Weathered, Posterized )


3 Small Ruins (two level, two story Apx 6" by 6" triangle)

Sruin 1 (cast, Assembled, Spackled, Sanded, Pre Paint Detail added, Primed, Painted, Weathered, Posterized )

Sruin 2 (cast, Assembled, Spackled, Sanded, Pre Paint Detail added, Primed, Painted, Weathered, Posterized )

Sruin 3 (cast, Assembled, Spackled, Sanded, Pre Paint Detail added, Primed, Painted, Weathered, Posterized )


1 Sandbag Fort

Sandbag fort

3 Barricades (cast)

Barricade 1

Barricade 2

1 Rubble pile

Rubble pile


Casting in progress



Finished components

This is looking extremely interesting. . . and a little messy! I like!

Thanks! The two smaller RTV molds are Hirst arts Molds. The two larger one I made off of master model pieces I also made They are working really well.


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Edited first post to reflect List of Planned structures, and their rough sizes.

Hmm Should I build a top to put this project on as well, or Buy a Zuzzy mat... Hmm... Tomorrow will tell
(it depends on what my local Home Improvement store has to offer...)

Great idea making large wall sections. have fun chipping and make battle damage texture!

essia wrote:... have fun chipping and make battle damage texture!

That's the best part too... (at least that's the Part I have the most fun with.)


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Since I took that Pic I've made two more "window" wall molds. I'll take a pic of the current setup tonight.

The Current Set up



Closer to the molds


Next new mold in progress (Barricades, and Small wall with no windows.)



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And I've decided to build a tabletop for this project to live upon as well ( I really must be some sort of Masochist especially as I am starting a new job this week...)

MOAR PICTURES

(of the progress to date.)

Overview of Stuff in molds


Cast building components




Cast Barricade components


Casting progress table overview


Big Bag o Rubble (left over dental stone broken up a bit)



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I've got about 90% of the "essential" components cast up already (enough for everything but the Large Ruins.)

for perspective
Each Large ruin uses 1 Door, and 13 Small walls (windows, or non windows)
Each Medium Ruin Uses 1 Door and 5 Small walls (windows, or non windows)
Each Small Ruin uses 4 Small walls (windows, or non windows)
Each Barricade is 2 pieces (one cast worth, from the mold with them in it)
The Rubble pile is a pile of excess dental stone on foam (easy as hell to do)
The "sandbag fort" will be either molded then cast Sandbags, or Sculpey sandbags.


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Each building is going to be based, and I will be making a fairly generic table top to put them on (with some "improvised" trench lines of course )

The List of Components I have cast right now is
Door segment: 12
Swall w/2 windows: 41

Spacer Bar (join cover): 53
Barricade (half): 12
Swall W/o windows: 6

the rough footprint of all the buildings I have planned is roughly 2ft x4ft (ie. 33% of the table is planned to be terrain)

All essential components have been cast. (I'm going to cast a few more sets of stuff to give me some additional options when assembling the assorted ruins.)

Bases for all terrain pieces have been cut. now for assembly.

Good progress! How long does that stuff take to cure? Is it rock 'ard?

Emperors_Champion wrote:Good progress! How long does that stuff take to cure? Is it rock 'ard?

It takes between 25-35 mins to set enough to de-mold and a similar amount of time to "cure" fully (your times may be slightly different due to your local humidity) It sets to a near Ceramic hardness. Has exceptional compressive strength but only Moderate Shear strength. It works great for making terrain tho , and is one of the recommended products for casting HirstArts tiles out of.

Now On to the Piccy goodness for the day.

Teaser Pic of the First small ruin in progress.


Bin of Finished wall components


Bin of Door segements, and Busted window walls.


Sruin 1 Right exterior Overview (rubble-ing in progess)


Sruin 1 Right rear side overview


Sruin 1 Flashy Pics




Sruin 1 Far view Left rear(ish) YOu can see a potential layout for the beginnings of the "sandbag fort)

This is really coming together nicely! Great job and keep up the good work, man.

Smashotron wrote:This is really coming together nicely! Great job and keep up the good work, man.

Thanks I shall... I will be getting more done tomorrow after I get home from Work.

Well here's this evenings progress

On to The Pics

Sruin 1 Overview (with 2nd floor)




Sruin 1 Closeup (with Scale mini. Internet cookies to anyone who IDs the model )



Sruin 1 (size of window)


Sruin 1 (size of window/floor height)


Sruin2 assembly in progress


Floor Height jig (I do so love Legos...)

Pics of the day's progress.

Sruin 2 Overview (2nd floor added)




Sruin 3 in progress

Looking very good, keep it up.

This seems to be very interesting, I'm looking forward to seeing this finished.

Is the model a death jester? Otherwise, great terrain building, but how big is the table?

Space Marine wrote:This seems to be very interesting, I'm looking forward to seeing this finished.

Thanks. It will be Awesome (if I can keep up this rate of work)

Phantom wrote:Is the model a death jester? Otherwise, great terrain building, but how big is the table?

It is not an Eldar Mini, its is an IG mini from 3rd ed. Thanks, The table will be a 6' by 4' standard 40k size table (apx 33% is allotted for the ruins as mobile terrain.)

Paranoia_Agent wrote:Looking very good, keep it up.

Thanks I shall.



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Well I got some more stuff done today.

On to the Pics

Sruin 3 Overview






The three Small ruins (and un used components)


Mruin 1 In progress

Got a little more done this morning.

On to the Pics.

Mruin 1 Overview (adding 2nd Floor)








Mruin 2 (adding second story)






Mruin 2 (adding 2nd Floor)








Mruin 3 (in progress adding second story)




Mruin 1 in storage crate (for now) overhead


Mruin 1 in Storage crate (for now) Overview




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Piccs for the evening.

Mruin 3 (adding 2nd floor)




Mruin 4 (in progress)




Mruins 1+2 in a bin awaiting the next stage of work




Three Barricades (not glued down to bases, or detailed)

On to the Progress today so far. (have to stop and let things dry. )

This is the Game plan for the Layout at Da Boyz


Materials for the tabletop...




Mruin 4 (adding exterior details


Mruin 4 (adding 2nd Floor)




Mruin 5 (empty MDF base)


Mruin 5 (adding 2nd story)

Progress to date.

Mruin 5 (adding 2nd floor)






Lruin 1 In progress (need more floor tiles...)

ON to today's Pics. I've cast enough floor tiles for the ground floor level of the first Large ruin, so I've begun adding the walls on.

This mornings Progress.

Lruin 1 (adding 2nd and 3rd floors)






New Mold in Action


Aaaaaand What It makes


Parts from new mold Being added to Lruin 1

Pics of Today's progress.

Lruin 2 (adding 3rd story)




Lruin 1 adding backs to the window fill panels


Closer pics (of Lruin1 window fill panel backings)




Floor Tiles for Lruin2 (and other stuff)


Mruins in a bin (waiting for next stage... Spackle)

WOW nice work man! looks like your gonna be able to pump out tons of terrain much quicker n easier with your moulds! But because they're still scratch built they wont look like the same building 20 times, just the same type of construction. Tiles also really good idea just so impressed, keep it up man!

now you have to find a way of painting them easily

Very interested in this as me and the misses were thinking about this very thing..very subscribed



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This looks promising. Subscribed!

Two Spartan wrote:WOW nice work man! looks like your gonna be able to pump out tons of terrain much quicker n easier with your moulds! But because they're still scratch built they wont look like the same building 20 times, just the same type of construction. Tiles also really good idea just so impressed, keep it up man!

now you have to find a way of painting them easily

You would be suprised at how easily they will drybrush/ then wash up.

Deathshead420 wrote:Very interested in this as me and the misses were thinking about this very thing..very subscribed



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Thanks If you want some sets of Building components let me know...

Flying Pooo wrote:This looks promising. Subscribed!

Thanks

I should have some progress pics up in a few mins. (I just got home from work and need to unwind.)



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And heeeres the Pics of Lruin 2 with the first floor being added.







The molds I made for sandbags, window fill, and a door..


some leftover dental stone... hmmmm Moar Rubble!!!


Window fill inserts. (two back to back make one window fill)




Bases for Barricades.... and a Rubble Pile...

I really like your work so far. Your buildings look great. However you could Improve the look of your ruined buildings and make them look AWESOME by making them look more ruined and war torn. Right now they look too straight edged and intact to be very convincing ruins.

If you use real life examples of ruined buildings as reference and inspiration you will be able to make more convincing ruined buildings.

Here are some examples.













I look forward to seeing more of your ruins.

[EDIT] WOOT PAGE TWO yippie!!!! [/EDIT]

Nice Reference Pics. I will be using them... Bwahahahaha

Anyhoo On to the Pics from today.

Mruin 1 (adding sandbag stuff)
Overview


Closeup on sandbag revetment (back)


Closeup on sandbag revetment (rear of doorway)


Upper windows.


Front overview


Lruin 1 (Chipped up)


Lruin2 (Chipped Up)


Closeup of Lruin 2 Rubble piles at ends of walls

These ruins are getting better, I really like them. The sandbag one looks awesome.
Keep up the good work!

They look great i agree.

Flying Pooo wrote:These ruins are getting better, I really like them. The sandbag one looks awesome.
Keep up the good work!

Thanks. I shal endeavor to do so.

Deathshead420 wrote: They look great i agree.

Thanks

well I've lost a day to Space Marine... But I'll get cracking on these again tomorrow.

Awesome work. Subscribed!

this is a GREAT Tat, i'll be keeping an eye on this blog for some time!

Looking very nice! Keep up the good work! Remember to prime those with latex paint to prevent the stone from soaking up all your expensive GW/Vallejo paints.

Eggs wrote:Awesome work. Subscribed!

Thanks

Nightfall wrote:this is a GREAT Tat, i'll be keeping an eye on this blog for some time!

Thanks

TTG BUNKER wrote:Looking very nice! Keep up the good work! Remember to prime those with latex paint to prevent the stone from soaking up all your expensive GW/Vallejo paints.

Thanks. GW/Vallejo paints for massive amounts of terrain? that's just crazy talk. for my terrain productions i generally use thinned Liquitex, and "craft" acrylic (ala Apple barrel, ceramcoat, etc)

Wow... you're like some kind of civil engineering beast

Really nice work.

Flinty wrote:Wow... you're like some kind of civil engineering beast

Really nice work.

Thanks, the "modern brutal/ Stalinist" look really works well for 40k stuff (geometric angles are your friend...)

Anyway I've begun spackilng the ruins to blend the tiles into the MDF bases, and help hide some of the join lines for the larger ruins, (at least it will after I sand the excess spackle off...). I apologize for the poor pic quality but I need to get to bed so don't have time to retake em now (I'll do that when I get home from work tomorrow)

the three Small ruins (overview)








Sruin 1 Spackling

Sam you really are very talented, shot me a email later as I have some gifts for you.

Empchild wrote:Sam you really are very talented, shot me a email later as I have some gifts for you.

will do. as a matter of fact... done.

Gonna treat yourself to a new airbrush?

I think you need to, gonna be the only way to do them justice.

Man, now I want to play in DA BOYZ, just to play on this table.

--Brian, Wakefield, MA

Deathshead420 wrote:Gonna treat yourself to a new airbrush?

I think you need to, gonna be the only way to do them justice.

Seriously considering it anyway. at the minimum I'll be borrowing one from a club member to paint these.

Briancj wrote:Man, now I want to play in DA BOYZ, just to play on this table.

--Brian, Wakefield, MA

Heh. You might have fun at Day Boyz at that, but I'll try and bring this stuff to the Bunker (if I'm ever off on a sunday...)

I haven't been able to make it to DA BUNKAH in awhile, either.

Need any help?

Briancj wrote:I haven't been able to make it to DA BUNKAH in awhile, either.

Need any help?

Not at the moment but thanks for asking.


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Pics of spackling of small ruins.









Mini for Scale pic of LRuin 1


Other side of the wall (Valk/SR view)


Street level.

I am really liking these new ruins you're just pumping off the assembly line. So much awesome progress so quickly. Keep up the good work!

Flying Pooo wrote:I am really liking these new ruins you're just pumping off the assembly line. So much awesome progress so quickly. Keep up the good work!

Thanks.

Ive finished sanding down spackle on three of the five Medium ruins. and for a hoot I took some "action" pics using some old IG minis (old as in painted and un-used for some time not old model wise) and my Necromunda gang.

On to the Pics.

+++Begin Action Photos

1st Prandia (squad A Plt1 1 Legio Prandia rgt) Guardsman, accompanying Inquisitor "BoB" and his retinue of 82nd Necromunda "Absolute Aholes" occupy a pair of fortified ruins as the remnants of the 23rd catachan rgt charge down a street to clear a ruin during the battle for San Lorenzo on Ultima Macharia.

South overview (Pic from Surveillance drone +++Classified by Inquisition+++)


Street level view of the charge of the remnants of the Catachan 23rd.


Gun servitor "Brick" of the 82nd Necromunda takes a covering position in the forward of the two fortified ruins.


The 82nd Necromunda takes positions in the second story of the forward ruin, as Inquisitor Bob Directs the placement of the 1st Prandian Legionares.


two legionnaires of the 1st Prandia take position in a sandbag revetment and engage traitor forces.


Meanwhile elelments of the 1st Prandia move to give covering fire to the 23rd Catachan and give support to the 82nd Necromunda troopers.


Western Overview (Pic from Surveillance drone +++Classified by Inquisition+++)


Lt Walter Maxwell Shouts Orders to his Legionaries as the Battle rages.


Legionnaires of the 1st Prandia take covering positions against any Traitor forces trying to outflank the Imperial attack.


Northern Overview (Pic from Surveillance drone +++Classified by Inquisition+++)


+++End Action Photos

"normal" pics

Mruin 5 Spackled (adding Sandbags in progress) overview of sandbags


Close up of lower sandbag revetment


Closeup of upper sandbag revetment


Front of Mruin 5


Mruin 1 Spackled (adding Sandbags in progress) overview of sandbags

Great progress and awesome ruins as usual. Your minis are just as great as your ruins. I really like the assault cannon guy.

Flying Pooo wrote:Great progress and awesome ruins as usual. Your minis are just as great as your ruins. I really like the assault cannon guy.

Thats the "heavy" for my necromunda gang.

These ruins are top notch and great scale wise, keep up the great work

Gonna treat yourself to a new airbrush?

I think you need to, gonna be the only way to do them justice.

+1

S, this stuff is awesome!!! Quality & quantity!!!

InquisitorMack wrote:

Gonna treat yourself to a new airbrush?

I think you need to, gonna be the only way to do them justice.

+1

S, this stuff is awesome!!! Quality & quantity!!!

Thanks G. Toss me a PM with your addy and I'll bounce you a set of the casts. (door and 4 windows, 8 joiner bars)

bigfish wrote:These ruins are top notch and great scale wise, keep up the great work

Thanks, I shall.

Finished sanding down the spackle on the last two Medium Ruins. I'll get Pics up tonight after I get home from Work.

Pics as promised of the last two Medium ruins (sanded down spackle)

Mruin 2 (spackle) overview


Spackle close up


Mruin 2 (Spackle) facade


Mruin 2 Front Spackle closeup


Mruin 3 (Spackle) overview


Spackle close up


Mruin 3 Side Facade


Mruin 3 Facade

On to the next set of visual stimuli. In less high fa-looting wordage Picture time.

Mruin 1 Sandbagging status overview with psyker bob for scale.


Closer...


Mini Eye view


Table top status... (Waiting on time off/weather to put ruins on it and then sketch out what features I want to build into it...)

More great progress on your ruins. They are scaled perfectly.
When will we see them painted?
I can't wait until then, they should look awesome painted.

Flying Pooo wrote:More great progress on your ruins. They are scaled perfectly.
When will we see them painted?
I can't wait until then, they should look awesome painted.

Thanks,
There is a fair amount of things to do yet. Specifically, I need to add sand to their bases, weapon hits, a first round of paint, detailing (posters, crates/ etc), followed by a second round of paint (touchup) and then weather em.
I'll be starting the sanding process later this week.

On to the Pics for today.

I've added some Weapon hits to Mruin 1
(front View)


(side view)


I've added Spackle to the two Large Ruins. (I need to sand the spackle down, am waiting for it to dry... Darn drying time always making my things take longer grumble...)


Lruin 2 (unsanded) Spackle
Front


Side


Rear


Lruin 1 (unsanded) Spackle
Front


Side


Rear


And to get an Idea of how big they are here are the wo Large Ruins next to each other on a 2'x4' Table section. they almost reach the midpoint of the section.



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Pics for the evening... Then off to bed. Working in the morning...

Mruin 1 (sanded, adding Boards) pre paint detailing.

Overview (rear)



Sandbag wall closeup (with Psyker Bob)


Re rubbling a bit


Overview (front)


Psyker bob in a boarded window

Pictures from tonight's Club night.

Table is getting a test play from some of my Club members.

Progress is made...

On to the Pics

Beginning to add sandbags to the "sandbag fort"

Overview (with Psyker bob for Scale)


Overhead view (no bob)


Mruin 3 (adding Boards and re Rubbling)
Front


Side


Rear

I really like the ruin with the barred windows. Great job!

Flying Pooo wrote:I really like the ruin with the barred windows. Great job!

Thanks.

On to Pics from Before I head out to work today.

Mruin 04 (adding Prepaint Detail)

Front


Side (Left)


Side (Right)


Rear


SRuin 02 (adding Prepaint Detail)

Front


Side


Rear


"Sandbag Fort"

Overview


Front

really liking the boarded windows thing, fots in really well

bigfish wrote:really liking the boarded windows thing, fots in really well

Thanks. I've gotten some more stuff done tonight but Pics will have to wait for morning and its bevy of light. Until then I leave folks with this a Link to "man who arranges the blocks" a "complete" history of the USSR to the tune of the song from Tetris (mostly)
man who arranges the blocks


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Pictures as promised last night.

Mruin 2 (adding pre paint details)
Front


Side


Rear


Sruin 3 (adding pre paint details)
Front


Side


Rear

Nice! The debris and rubble is perfectly proportioned so that the ruin does not OTT damage and rubble or to little. All in all really great work. Keep it up!

Awesome work...

I'm waiting for hirst arts mold to be shipped too:-)

keep up the good work

Zebr@88

I love the sand bags and the rubble, they add a great feel to an already awesome peice.

Looks great. I wish I had the energy and motivation to do this kind of thing.

Looking great! Love Hirst-Arts molds

Flying Pooo wrote:Nice! The debris and rubble is perfectly proportioned so that the ruin does not OTT damage and rubble or to little. All in all really great work. Keep it up!

Thanks. I'm in the home stretch. I just have to add pre paint detail to the two large ruins, one more Medium Ruin and One more Small ruin. Then the tabletop...

Zebra88 wrote:Awesome work...

I'm waiting for hirst arts mold to be shipped too:-)

keep up the good work

Zebr@88

Thanks.

M0rdain wrote:I love the sand bags and the rubble, they add a great feel to an already awesome peice.

Thanks

soncka wrote:Looks great. I wish I had the energy and motivation to do this kind of thing.

Plan on time more than anything else (lack of motivation, and etc just require a longer time committment, plan on working in like 10-15 min chunks "til its done")

Depraved wrote:Looking great! Love Hirst-Arts molds

Thanks. They make for really easy floors.


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Here's todays Progress

Mruin 05 (adding prepaint detail)

Front (with bob)


Front (without Bob)


Side


Rear

I like those Jersey Barriers and sandbags. They give the ruin so much character.

Flying Pooo wrote:I like those Jersey Barriers and sandbags. They give the ruin so much character.

Thanks

Here's last nights Progress.

Mruin 05 Pre Paint details

Front


Rear (with Bob)


Sruin 03 Pre Paint detail

Front


Side


Rear (with Bob)




Now ON TO PAINT!!!!

Awesome ruins, and I really love the mold setup you have. That does make it easy to get a lot of terrain put together that still looks great.

Love the modular window inserts as well, wonderful.

Consider many of these ideas implemented in my future table...

d-usa wrote:Awesome ruins, and I really love the mold setup you have. That does make it easy to get a lot of terrain put together that still looks great.

Love the modular window inserts as well, wonderful.

Consider many of these ideas implemented in my future table...

Thanks.

Now on to other things.

Painting HAS BEGUN (DUN DUN DUHHHHHH)


Pics of today's progress,

Overview of 2Mruins, and 2 Sruins


Primed but a wee bit damp

Looking great!

Really enjoying what I see so far. I love terrain articles/blogs and I wish I would see more of them. I am excited to see it complete.

nice. I've been working with hirst arts product for a long while and what you have done for yourself here is fantastic i am gonna have to try something similar

Something i do that helps allot is mix black paint with my water it really darkens the final product and makes chips less apparent

Heres the Progress from Last night.

All medium, and small ruins have been primed.
2 medium Ruins, and 2 Small Ruins have had the walls and bases drybrushed to the "final" pre weathering gray.

On to The Pics

Mruin 01 (primed) overview


Mruin 02 (Walls painted)
Front


Side


Rear


Mruin 03 (primed) overview


The rest (Mruins 02,04,05 Sruins 01,02,03) WIP as of 09/25/2011


Mruin 04 (Walls painted)
Front


Side


Rear


Sruin 02 (walls painted)
Front


Side


Rear


Sruin 01 (walls painted)
Front


Side


Rear


Sruin 03 (Primed)
Front


Side


Rear


Mruin 05 (primed)
Front


Side


Rear

Heres the progress up to.... Now.

Pics
Overall (concrete done) Ruins


Mruin 01 (concrete done)
Front


Side


Rear


Mruin 05 (concrete done)
Front


Side


Rear


Sruin 03 (concrete done)
Front


Side


Rear


Large Ruins (primed)


LRuin 01
Front


Side


Rear


Lruin 02
Front


Side


Rear

They're coming along nicely!

Flying Pooo wrote:They're coming along nicely!

Thanks

On to Pics of today's Progress

Mruin 05
Front


Side


Rear


Sruin 02
Front



Lruin 01
Front


Side


Lruin 02
Front

Today WAS a great day for spraypainting!

Looking good!

--Brian

Ambitious project..... and excellent results! the pics look great.

Briancj wrote:Today WAS a great day for spraypainting!

Looking good!

--Brian

Thanks

dwanthony wrote:Ambitious project..... and excellent results! the pics look great.

Thanks

Pics of the Progress to date

Mruin 04
Front


Side


Rear


Sruin 02
Front


Side


Rear

Other Stuff






New Mold in progress. (what it contains is a special surprise for my opponents at Da Boyz GT 2011)

Those ruins have come along massively since last time I checked and I knew they would look great with paint! Also,I can't wait to find out what the surprise is.

Pics of Last nights Progress

LRuin 01 (Painted)
Front


Side


Rear


Lruin 02 (Painted)
Front


Side


Rear

I love this project so far. Very well done and a great use of casting. The one thing I could say is that the rust drippings on the front of the buildings seem a little intense and overpowering. But just my opinion. Other than that they look amazing!

Maj.Winters wrote:I love this project so far. Very well done and a great use of casting. The one thing I could say is that the rust drippings on the front of the buildings seem a little intense and overpowering. But just my opinion. Other than that they look amazing!

Thanks. the rust streaking will probably get toned back a hair before I do the weathering.

Any way on to today's progress. (Took maybe an Hour, then I went off to a political function with my Mother...)

Mruin 02
Front


Side


Rear


SRuin 03
Front


Side


Rear

Your ruins look great painted. That rust effect is awesome!

Flying Pooo wrote:Your ruins look great painted. That rust effect is awesome!

Thanks

On to the Pics of Yesterday Evenings Progress

MRuin 04(Metals)
Front


Side


Rear


Sruin 02(Metals)
Front


Side


Rear

This just keeps getting better!
You're going to have one awesome table with all this great terrain.

The most finished one is EpiC!!!! loving the sand bags and the stained walls

Flying Pooo wrote:This just keeps getting better!
You're going to have one awesome table with all this great terrain.

That's the idea anyway.

bigfish wrote:The most finished one is EpiC!!!! loving the sand bags and the stained walls

Thanks. The Ruins are all Painted, now I just need to add posters, weathering, the table to put them on... before the end of next week.... DOOOOOOOOOOOM.

I'll get pics of the ruins up this evening.



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Sorry about the Delay. Here is today's progress.

Mruin 01
Front


Side


Rear


Mruin 03
Front


Side


Mruin 05
Front


Side


Rear


Sruin 02
Front


Side


Rear

I just found this thread and have read it twice so far! Great job!

talons 58 wrote:I just found this thread and have read it twice so far! Great job!

Thanks

Ive just Postered and weathered (no ground veg yet...) Sruin 02, and Mruin 05

On to the Pics

Mruin 05
Front


Side


Closeup of Posters


Rear


Sruin 02
Front


Side


Rear(EDIT: Gah Wrong Pic)

Real nice and great looking, I would be afraid to do all that in plaster as my terrain gets tossed around abit. I tend to use 5mm foam board and looks well so-so lol.

Wow! Really good job on the painting.

1o/1o

The rust is really well done, and the rubble looks sick too.

It's amazing how the added weathering and the posters can make your ruins look so much better (which I thought would be very difficult to do).

looking so good with the posters on there as well

bigfish wrote:looking so good with the posters on there as well

Thanks

Flying Pooo wrote:It's amazing how the added weathering and the posters can make your ruins look so much better (which I thought would be very difficult to do).

Thanks

Deathshead420 wrote:Wow! Really good job on the painting.

1o/1o

The rust is really well done, and the rubble looks sick too.

Thanks

LordWynne wrote:Real nice and great looking, I would be afraid to do all that in plaster as my terrain gets tossed around abit. I tend to use 5mm foam board and looks well so-so lol.

Thanks. The material I'm using is much stronger than Plaster, as far as using foamboard goes... So does Bugbait (on Warseer, and other places) mostly you need to edge it to hide the foam edge and do something to keep it from warping.

Anyway On to the Pics of Last nights work. There would have been two more ruins but I got distracted by coverage of Occupy Boston.

Mruin 01
Front


Side


Rear


Mruin 03
Front


Side


Rear

Looking great! Posters are great! I love adding posters to my terrain pieces. I like how you you executed this project.

Depraved wrote:Looking great! Posters are great! I love adding posters to my terrain pieces. I like how you you executed this project.

Thanks.

Had a mishap with the tabletop... Will shortly be running out to a Home Despot or similar to do a last attempt to end run things. Bleh. On to todays progress so far.

Pics.

Mruin 02,
Front


Side


Rear


Sruin 01
Front


Side


Rear



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Last of the not LRuins is now weathered

Pics of tonights progress

Mruin 04
Front


Side


Rear


Sruin 01
Front


Side


Rear

So my Last Shot at a 3d tabletop (not just a painted/textured surface) WORKED! Woot! I will have a top to put the ruins on after all. Due in part to time constraints it won't have all the things on it I had intended initially, but they can be added (relatively easily) later.

On to the Pics

The blue masking tape is denoting where I will be adding in roads.

1st segment (spackling)


2nd Segment(spackling)


3rd segment(spackling)


Closeup of the Big crater(spackling)



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Well the Last of the Ruins are now weathered. That's right folks all that's left is the top to put it on

On to The Pics

Lruin 01
Front


Side


Rear


Lruin 02
Front


Side


Rear

Well I've got the Tabletop sanded (sand gluing in progress waiting on glue to dry...)

Ive started to scribe in Roadway Panels and cracks but those will have to wait for the next round of Pics...

On to the Pics of sand and drying glue... Wheee...

Overview


Segment 1


Segment 2


Segment 3

This is going to be one awesome table!

Just epic man, makes me want to build my own table

Flying Pooo wrote:This is going to be one awesome table!

Yep. That's The Idea.

Ultrafool wrote:Just epic man, makes me want to build my own table

Thanks, You should (best Ahnould voice) "DOOOO EEEET. Dooo eeet NOW."

Table needs to be DONE in apx five days... (of which I'll have apx 1-2 hrs to work on it tomorrow, and an unknown amount of time next week (depends on my work schedule, any day I'm working probably no more than 1-2 hrs available to work on it unless I have the following day off.) It will be getting loaded into my van on next Thurs for travel...

the GT is Da Boyz GT 2011 in Rochester NY.





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Pics of the Scribed in "cracks" in the roadways, as well as the "panel " separators

Those cracks in the roadway look great!
Are you also going to make small shell crater impacts and add lots of debris to the road? Because that would look awesome.
I Hope you don't have to compromise the aesthetics of this project to finish it in time.

Those ruins look great! nice job.

The posters add an awesome touch, and I love the cracks in the road. I got some pink foam in the garage that has been glued on wood and has been waiting for me to do something with it for a few months now. I really need to get working on that.

Flying Pooo wrote:Those cracks in the roadway look great!
Are you also going to make small shell crater impacts and add lots of debris to the road? Because that would look awesome.
I Hope you don't have to compromise the aesthetics of this project to finish it in time.

Maybe later, but I dont really have much time to get it done...

Wazzdig Dagga wrote:Those ruins look great! nice job.

Thanks

d-usa wrote:The posters add an awesome touch, and I love the cracks in the road. I got some pink foam in the garage that has been glued on wood and has been waiting for me to do something with it for a few months now. I really need to get working on that.

Thanks. Do it. you know you can make it awesome.

Looking good. Great buildings. That table is gonna by fantastic!

Excellent work on this Galorn!!! For those interested btw galorn does sell terrain and has made his own small company for it so if you want some great terrain pm him. It's a shamless plug for him but it's some great work.

The Good Green wrote:Looking good. Great buildings. That table is gonna by fantastic!

Thanks. I sure hope so that was the idea after all.

Empchild wrote:Excellent work on this Galorn!!! For those interested btw galorn does sell terrain and has made his own small company for it so if you want some great terrain pm him. It's a shamless plug for him but it's some great work.

Thanks for the plug. Empchild has a really Kickass Bitz biz that has supplied some really neat stuff I'll be using in the future.

Anyway on to The Pics of Progress

Overview


Segment 1


Segment 2


Segment 3


Closeup of some cracks


Closeup of the Big crater

Looking good!

Flying Pooo wrote:Looking good!

Thanks Pooo

Here are some Pics of all of the ruins set up on the 99% finished tabletop. (I need to add weathering washes, and some waterFX to the Large Crater to keep it from being a dice eater.)

so without further ado...

Raven Sector San Lorenzo


+++Incoming Transmission+++
+++Surveillance flight 4587358.245.589+++

Raven sector appears clear of enemy forces at this time. The sector's defendors are currently responding to a a threat from (Classified Sigma Six Alpha) Sector.

Pic captures follow.

Raven sector South on approach.


Gavin Way South




Servitor Feed Gavin way South


Raven Sector Over flight


Raven Sector Sewer Breech located.


Raven Sector Servitor feed alley 1258547


Via Lorenzo


Raven Sector North on departure


+++ End Transmission+++

Awesome Sauce.

It's awesome to see it all come together. They look awesome!
Great job man!

Fifty wrote:Awesome Sauce.

Thanks.

Flying Pooo wrote:It's awesome to see it all come together. They look awesome!
Great job man!

Thanks.

I've added some weathering washes to the tabletop. After those dry I need to do a light drybrush of the roadway and add waterfx to the large crater. After that the Tabletop is done. I'll get pics up tomorrow after I get out of work.

Here are the Pics.

Overview


Section 1


Section 2


Section 3


Large Crater.



I've added water FX It's fairly cold here so I'll check on em in the morning to see if the water FX has begun to set. I'll post Pics If it has otherwise sorry folks will be waiting for a bit...

I can't wait to see armies play out on this table!

Briancj wrote:I can't wait to see armies play out on this table!

Me Either.

Got out of work at 7pm... Got home 7:15pm got distracted... Just took Pics. Am Posting now.

Big Crater With WaterFX (Magic water made by Unreal Scenics)
Overview


Long shot Overview


Closeup


Different Angle


Small Crater With WaterFX (Magic water made by Unreal Scenics)

Galorn wrote:The Current Set up



Closer to the molds


Next new mold in progress (Barricades, and Small wall with no windows.)



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And I've decided to build a tabletop for this project to live upon as well ( I really must be some sort of Masochist especially as I am starting a new job this week...)

Dude, are those...Legos?

Lego Bricks are some of the BEST mold form materials out there. You can build almost any size and shape, and they are water-tight.

sorry if this is already posted, but what products are your molds made of? I'm on the smooth-on website, and wondering if thats the OOMOO (doesn't need a scale) or one of the mold max lines.

<--has a few hirst art molds and is making a large scale project. Casting sections all at once is HUGE.

Briancj wrote:Lego Bricks are some of the BEST mold form materials out there. You can build almost any size and shape, and they are water-tight.

Yep

AfroCelt wrote:sorry if this is already posted, but what products are your molds made of? I'm on the smooth-on website, and wondering if thats the OOMOO (doesn't need a scale) or one of the mold max lines.

<--has a few hirst art molds and is making a large scale project. Casting sections all at once is HUGE.

It's a product called "Mold Star 15"


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I only got a few Pics of Models on the table. I'll get those up tonight or tomorrow.

The GT was... Okay. there were some SNAFU and FUBAR things that caused a snowball effect of holding up the start of a few things but, on the whole I had fun.

Pics of the "Raven sector" table in use.











Aaaaaandd here is a Pic of a table that just needs to well to be kind. Die. (really I think it should be burned but that's just me...)


Thankfully I didn't end up on this table, I ended up on THIS one (which was actually worse.) It LOOKED cool. (crappy GW vacuform craters aside) but played Awful.




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San Lorenzo Raven Sector Will be in residence at Tabletop Arena hobbies and games in Lowell Ma for the immediate future. Swing by and Check it out...

Stunning!

Congrats on your table win!

--B.

Briancj wrote:Congrats on your table win!

--B.

Thanks.


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dsteingass wrote:Stunning!

Thanks

LOove the buildings man they looks good!


HAZZER

This was beautiful, but all that resin is very expensive. How many gallon units did you go through? And how much Mold Star? I really want to get and use some of those types of products but the money just isn't there.

I am hoping for my table that I will be able to replicate a lot of the same look with a modicum of financial expenditure on Styrene and square tubing for framing. Although, that broken edge concrete look is absolutely amazing.

HAZZER wrote:LOove the buildings man they looks good!


HAZZER

Thanks.

mxwllmdr wrote: This was beautiful, but all that resin is very expensive. How many gallon units did you go through? And how much Mold Star? I really want to get and use some of those types of products but the money just isn't there.

I am hoping for my table that I will be able to replicate a lot of the same look with a modicum of financial expenditure on Styrene and square tubing for framing. Although, that broken edge concrete look is absolutely amazing.

The mold making silicone is kinda expensive but totally worth it (I have a Smooth on products dealership near me so I didn't need to spend money on shipping.)
I used around 60-70$ worth of Moldstar 15 for ALL of the molds for this project.
http://www.reynoldsam.com/Mold-Star%3D-15,-1/c1306/index.html?catdepth=1

As far as how much the resin cost... I didn't use resin. I used a Gypsum based product (dental stone) called "excalibur" It costs around 40$ per 50 pound box. (I used around a box to cast everything)

My dentist actually recommended that, alginate he called it. he said a five pound bucket was cheap.

My wife is nixing the Mold Star purchase at the moment, but I am hoping she will come around. There is so much I want to do with casting.

Me too! I really want to start casting.

mxwllmdr wrote: My dentist actually recommended that, alginate he called it. he said a five pound bucket was cheap.

My wife is nixing the Mold Star purchase at the moment, but I am hoping she will come around. There is so much I want to do with casting.

Are you military at Ft Leonard wood? I think that Reynolds has a military discount. call em and ask.

dsteingass wrote:Me too! I really want to start casting.

Where are you located man? PM me I might have some goodies I could send you to "enjoy"

Who is Reynolds?

mxwllmdr wrote:Who is Reynolds?

the folks I got my RTV silicone from. (a Distributor for smooth on) Link to their webstore folows
http://www.reynoldsam.com/Mold-Star%3D-15,-1/c1306/index.html?catdepth=1

Yeah, okay, thats where I got my price quotes from. I just didn't read the whole website because the wife didn't approve the expenditure.






Yet.......

mxwllmdr wrote:Yeah, okay, thats where I got my price quotes from. I just didn't read the whole website because the wife didn't approve the expenditure.






Yet.......

Heh I recommend the "trial" pack to start with (relatively cheap) and gives about a half gallon size volume (800ML) of RTV silicone.

mate i just have been led here by dave...that work of yours is verging on the epic...i am totally lost...and it is bringing up old memoreis,fond ones from playing the old fallout games...the ruins just look so beautiful... i am torn between the bricked up window/doorway and the barred windows...these are so sweet looking!

many thanks for sharing this stuff...

and i have to see if that dentist stuff could be something for me here in germany too...i heard quite often it is just the thing to be using...

i hate to say it but for the most part i just had to massivly scroll through your many pics... so i have to ask you...how do you glue those differnt mold products together? what glue are you using?

i hope this thread will be updated soon!


cheers and thanks for the sweet stuff...vik

Viktor von Domm wrote:mate i just have been led here by dave...that work of yours is verging on the epic...i am totally lost...and it is bringing up old memoreis,fond ones from playing the old fallout games...the ruins just look so beautiful... i am torn between the bricked up window/doorway and the barred windows...these are so sweet looking!

many thanks for sharing this stuff...

and i have to see if that dentist stuff could be something for me here in germany too...i heard quite often it is just the thing to be using...

i hate to say it but for the most part i just had to massivly scroll through your many pics... so i have to ask you...how do you glue those differnt mold products together? what glue are you using?

i hope this thread will be updated soon!


cheers and thanks for the sweet stuff...vik

Thats the best part... Primary adhesive is... Elmers PVA glue. Cast using Excalibur brand dental stone.

@ Galorn, dsteingass just linked to this thread, I am a huge resin casting fan. I love the terrain you did. Question, how durable is the excaliber dental plaster? I have a small bag of it that was given to me when I bought a bag full of molds from Hirst arts at a Dragon Con back in the day. I never tried it out. Also do you have a blog other than here on dakka?

thanks galorn!

Wow, fantastic thread!

theunicorn wrote:@ Galorn, dsteingass just linked to this thread, I am a huge resin casting fan. I love the terrain you did. Question, how durable is the excaliber dental plaster? I have a small bag of it that was given to me when I bought a bag full of molds from Hirst arts at a Dragon Con back in the day. I never tried it out. Also do you have a blog other than here on dakka?

It's pretty tough stuff. not as tough as resin. (especially in very thin pieces) but for walls and similar things its plenty tough for casual gamer use.

JB wrote:

Wow, fantastic thread!

Thanks

This is an awsome table! i hope to one day own somthing like this. It looks like somthing straight out of a zombie movie haha
Did you custom make all the posters and news papers? I want to make some for my model bases
are they printed on anything special or just normal paper?

A1rebirth wrote:This is an awsome table! i hope to one day own somthing like this. It looks like somthing straight out of a zombie movie haha
Did you custom make all the posters and news papers? I want to make some for my model bases
are they printed on anything special or just normal paper?

Thanks. That was the goal actually. Posters I made using a combo of Open Office, and WS Word. They were printed on standard Laser printer paper then cut out and glued on with a 50/50 elmers water mix.

nice work gallorn, looks great on your table and im sure this molds legacy will transfer to daves table as well... *cough cough* you wouldnt happen to be selling any molds would you?

Rogue Wolves wrote:nice work gallorn, looks great on your table and im sure this molds legacy will transfer to daves table as well... *cough cough* you wouldnt happen to be selling any molds would you?

Possibly. PM sent.

grrraawrrl (cat growl) good on you sir

truely inspiring table, well done! I'll look to this thread for inspiration for when my club gets their act together

Just read through this blog, pure inspiration!

Molotovsoda wrote:truely inspiring table, well done! I'll look to this thread for inspiration for when my club gets their act together

Thanks. If you have any Questions feel free to ask.

Norn King wrote:Just read through this blog, pure inspiration!

Thanks.

Really enjoyed this thread mate! Nicely done!

TTG BUNKER wrote:Really enjoyed this thread mate! Nicely done!

Thanks.

If anyone has any questions feel free to ask em.

Galorn wrote:

TTG BUNKER wrote:Really enjoyed this thread mate! Nicely done!

Thanks.

If anyone has any questions feel free to ask em.

How tall is the statue of liberty

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wie+gross+ist+die+freiheitsstatue%3F

At a guess as tall as a warlord titan. But wikipedia probably has a more accurate description.

42?

Viktor von Domm wrote:

42?

How old is my grandma

Google that VIK

well i can ask her...she is sitting on my lap...

Viktor von Domm wrote:well i can ask her...she is sitting on my lap...

I hope not she has been dead for 19 years

ohoh...that´s what you get for having a shot at the dark...

Viktor von Domm wrote:ohoh...that´s what you get for having a shot at the dark...

Never shoot in the dark you don't know what you might hit

seems i hit myself...wait for it...with a bullet to the knee...

Viktor von Domm wrote:seems i hit myself...wait for it...with a bullet to the knee...

That really is stupid LOL the knee how is that even possible ……..

Viktor von Domm wrote:

Answered

see?! couldn´t help it^^

Indeed

vik vik vik... no

by the way RW just noticed that pimp chain on your avatar... lol...


and of course the catpirate too...

its not a pimp chain! well it could be.. the model has the jump pack straps so i just changed the colors to match (:


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took me a while to notice buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut im glad you noticed that second thing!!

well i am all for noticing things... i am a checker^^

Rogue Wolves wrote:its not a pimp chain! well it could be.. the model has the jump pack straps so i just changed the colors to match (:


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took me a while to notice buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut im glad you noticed that second thing!!

Viktor von Domm wrote:well i am all for noticing things... i am a checker^^

aaaaand now the chain is gone...

or is it?

lol...

holy crap vik, you have over 10,000 more posts then me! wow your one talkative german arnt ya

yup... tho many of my posts are in fact oneliners^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:yup... tho many of my posts are in fact oneliners^^

zing...

Galorn wrote:

Viktor von Domm wrote:yup... tho many of my posts are in fact oneliners^^

zing...

He is on another thread

hurhurhur... *coughsseewhatyoudidtherecoughhs*

Viktor von Domm wrote:hurhurhur... *coughsseewhatyoudidtherecoughhs*

You liked it though didn't you

hmmmm.... a bit

Amazing terrain! I have to ask how long did each step take my brother and I have wanted to make a winter city looking somewhat like this do you do commissions or sell components like walls?

_Apollo_ wrote:
Amazing terrain!

How many components would I need for a medium ruin?

Galorn's basic wall can be spammed, or broken up for any size ruin you'd ever want.

_Apollo_ wrote:
How many components would I need for a medium ruin?

Hmm 7 or so without a doorway panel, 6 with.

(EDIT)

Sorry I went back and checked my notes...

5 with doorway, 6 without.

Pics of the table at Pax East 2013

yup... that is very cool looking...and desolate...

oh, and...welcome back mister!

got a question tho... what would the table measurements be in meters? i am atm secretly building a table (modular) too... and for referrence i would like to know... thanks in advance!

cheers, vik

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
yup... that is very cool looking...and desolate...

oh, and...welcome back mister!

got a question tho... what would the table measurements be in meters? i am atm secretly building a table (modular) too... and for referrence i would like to know... thanks in advance!

cheers, vik

well in imperial measurements its 4ft by 6ft in three 2ft by 4ft panels. since a meter is roughly 3ft. three 2/3 Meter by 1and 1/3 meter panels.

my current plans are a bit smaller... i have boards of 40cm to 40cm each... and atm six of these... thats around 16 inches to 16 inches... making the board atm 30 inches to 47 inches...


would you think this is playable or is it way too small?


and thanks for the first answer mate!

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
my current plans are a bit smaller... i have boards of 40cm to 40cm each... and atm six of these... thats around 16 inches to 16 inches... making the board atm 30 inches to 47 inches...


would you think this is playable or is it way too small?


and thanks for the first answer mate!

That would be a bit tight for "full points games" For something like Killteam it could work really well. Most 40k tables are a minimum or 4ft by 4 ft (or 1.3M by 1.3m)

hmmm.... then i better check on my resources... seems i have to fiddle something extra to the current set up^^

thanks mate!

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
hmmm.... then i better check on my resources... seems i have to fiddle something extra to the current set up^^

thanks mate!

yep for 40k 4ft by 4ft gets cramped at around 500points...

This is some really great scenery, and a really great project.

I really like what you did with the window and door frames, lots of great utility and variety.

The whole process is fantastic and has got me thinking about trying my hand at casting buildings and other small urban terrain.

I'd love to know how you made the road barriers (Jersey blocks?). I can see they come in two parts but I am having trouble working out the process

 CommandPoint wrote:
This is some really great scenery, and a really great project.

I really like what you did with the window and door frames, lots of great utility and variety.

The whole process is fantastic and has got me thinking about trying my hand at casting buildings and other small urban terrain.

I'd love to know how you made the road barriers (Jersey blocks?). I can see they come in two parts but I am having trouble working out the process

Thanks man, Casting up stuff is pretty straight forward if a little messy.

The jersy barriers are effectively made from two blocks shaped like the Z blocks from tetris glued back to back.

Hey Galorn, thanks for the response about the Jersey barriers.

I've gone back through the pics and seen their ~ "shape", but I can't figure out how you'd cast that shape...

It's making my brain hurt :(

How easy are these buildings to store?
I'm about to start making some MDF buildings that I've got and I'd like to mount them on bases and embellish them with rubble etc, but that will obviously make each one harder to store.

I'm seriously thinking about getting one of those Hirst Arts floor tile molds too, a really simple and effective way to get uniform floor for all your buildings.
Plus it'll give me the push I need to start delving in to casting

 CommandPoint wrote:
Hey Galorn, thanks for the response about the Jersey barriers.

I've gone back through the pics and seen their ~ "shape", but I can't figure out how you'd cast that shape...

It's making my brain hurt :(

How easy are these buildings to store?
I'm about to start making some MDF buildings that I've got and I'd like to mount them on bases and embellish them with rubble etc, but that will obviously make each one harder to store.

I'm seriously thinking about getting one of those Hirst Arts floor tile molds too, a really simple and effective way to get uniform floor for all your buildings.
Plus it'll give me the push I need to start delving in to casting

The jersey barrier like bits are made from two parts each shaped kind of like the z component from tetris.
They are as easy to store as any other mounted ruin is. The Hirst arts floor tile molds are super easy to use too.