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Post by: Kroothawk
BoLS says we will see the following Finecast releases for September:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/08/40kwfb-news-september-releases.html
Dark Eldar Lhamaean 1 mini sept 10 $15.25 Finecast
Dark Eldar Sslyth 1 mini sept 10 $15.25 Finecast
Lord Castellan Creed 1 mini sept 10 $18.25 Finecast
Colour Sergeant Kell 1 mini sept 10 $20.75 Finecast
Ork Weirdboy 1 mini sept 10 $22.25 Finecast
Tyranid Venomthrope 1 mini sept 10 $24.75 Finecast
Nurgle Chaos Lord 1 mini sept 10 $13.25 Plastic
Lizardmen Saurus Oldblood 1 mini sept 10 $13.25 Plastic
Dwarf Grudge Thrower 1 mini sept 10 $38.00 Finecast
High King Thorgrim Grudgbearer 1 mini sept 10 $49.50 Finecast
Dwarf Master Engineer with Great Weapon 1 mini sept 10 $15.25 Finecast
Dwarf Thane with Army Battle Standard 1 mini sept 10 $18.25 Finecast
Skaven Doom-flayer 1 mini sept 10 $23.00 Finecast
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Post by: Perkustin
Whos betting the Sslyth will be a pig ugly model.
Me, thats who....
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Post by: Flashman
Huzzah, now people can stop griping about half a unit being released for the DE court (although I still think that the need to take all four is a misinterpretation of the codex).
Double huzzah on finecost Doom-flayer. Might buy one now.
Think Tyranid players will be gutted they finecosted the Venomthrope and not the Pyrovore
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Post by: gilljoy
I'm still waiting for a Mordark (think thats how you spell it) model to come out in finecast for the grey knights.
But the finecast VenomThrope will be nice edit: except for the price rise
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Post by: His Master's Voice
I see more plastic single characters on the list. And Nurgle too. Happy times.
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Post by: Leigen_Zero
His Master's Voice wrote:I see more plastic single characters on the list. And Nurgle too. Happy times.
GW were harping on a long time ago about how they want more HQ units to be done in plastic kits (They did the space marine captain, and chaos termi lord) so you have most options available in one kit. Looks like they are finally getting their rears into gear on that respect, shame they aren't doing the ones most people are crying out for (read 'Ork Warboss')
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Post by: Surtur
Yay! All maneaters are staying, unlike the rumors of them getting rid of some.
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Post by: Tim the Biovore
Plastic Oldblood? Do want. I just hope it isn't bloody ugly.
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Post by: Flashman
Tim the Biovore wrote:Plastic Oldblood? Do want. I just hope it isn't bloody ugly.
Yes, a cute attractive Oldblood with nicely toned buttocks, please
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Post by: Kroothawk
WD September confirms plastic oldblood and nurgle general and good looking  Dark Eldar court miniatures.
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Post by: Agamemnon2
Flashman wrote:Huzzah, now people can stop griping about half a unit being released for the DE court (although I still think that the need to take all four is a misinterpretation of the codex).
If it were, it'd've been fixed by now.
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Post by: kenshin620
Leigen_Zero wrote:
GW were harping on a long time ago about how they want more HQ units to be done in plastic kits (They did the space marine captain, and chaos termi lord) so you have most options available in one kit.
But if the latest character kits mean anything, these will be small sprues with monoposed figs no?
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Post by: spaceelf
Wow, not alot to like about the releases next month. The Finecast stuff is super expensive to make the overpriced plastics look cheap. I wanted a Sslythe, but not at that price. I will have to settle for S-S-Slythe.
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Post by: Brother SRM
Kroothawk wrote:WD September confirms plastic oldblood and nurgle general and good looking  Dark Eldar court miniatures.
A WD scan would be really appreciated
I'm assuming the Nurgle Lord is for Fantasy and not 40k. Makes me wonder when they'll bring the single blister plastic models to 40k.
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Post by: Sidstyler
I like that the other two court models will come out a month after the first two. Too bad a full unit is still way too expensive. And considering I still haven't bought the beastmaster units I wanted because of that fact, a much more useful unit that I really kinda need, sadly I don't see myself buying these.
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Post by: JHall
spaceelf wrote:Wow, not alot to like about the releases next month. The Finecast stuff is super expensive to make the overpriced plastics look cheap. I wanted a Sslythe, but not at that price. I will have to settle for S-S-Slythe.
While I am definitely not a fan of GW's prices by any stretch, $15.25 for the Ssylth is not super expensive by any means. As a single character type model it is on par with most Privateer, Infinity, and other releases. I was figuring that they would gouge people even more for those and charge $18-$20 for them.
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Post by: Flashman
I'm intrigued to see the Lhameans to see if they'd make good sultry vampire types for Fantasy.
Come on Kroot, if you can't scan, describe for us
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Post by: Ouze
Is this a completely new model?
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Post by: Flashman
Ouze wrote:
Is this a completely new model?
Hope so. If there's one approach that GW have implemented this year of which I actually approve, it's these new single plastic miniatures. Long may it continue.
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Post by: Kroothawk
No scans from me. But I can describe.
1.) Sslyth: Human sized snake with 4 arms (gun, pistol, claw, sword), nice angular head, torso with DE armour and sash. Looks better than I expected.
2.) Lhamae: Nice ladylike DE with armour, long skirt and poisoned scimitar in left plus scabbard in right hand, bare head with long braid. Will become my favorite Archon.
3.) Fantasy CHaos general of Nurgle: Small closed mask with horn on one side. One horned shoulder pad, naked obese sick body with chainmail "loincloth" and full plate from knee downward. With axe.
4.) Lizardmen Oldblood: Ornamental, basically what you expect. Both plastics are new and good average IMHO, but I don't play either army.
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Post by: whoadirty
Flashman wrote:
Think Tyranid players will be gutted they finecosted the Venomthrope and not the Pyrovore 
Pyrovore was one of the first to be Finecast'd. :(
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Post by: Mad4Minis
His Master's Voice wrote:I see more plastic single characters on the list. And Nurgle too. Happy times.
Agreed. I have no interest in finecast at all, and not too keep on metal, so the more plastic the better. Automatically Appended Next Post: Leigen_Zero wrote:His Master's Voice wrote:I see more plastic single characters on the list. And Nurgle too. Happy times.
GW were harping on a long time ago about how they want more HQ units to be done in plastic kits (They did the space marine captain, and chaos termi lord) so you have most options available in one kit. Looks like they are finally getting their rears into gear on that respect, shame they aren't doing the ones most people are crying out for (read 'Ork Warboss')
They could do a warboss & big mek kit together. Also an Inquisitor kit would be sweet too.
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Post by: His Master's Voice
Jes Goodwin mentioned he'd like the see multi option kits to come out in this line in some nondescript future, which probably means we're stuck with single pose/single purpose for the time being. Warboss/Inquisitor may come when the sprues actually support any options at all, since they don't offer any customization right now.
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Post by: Flachzange
Brother SRM wrote:Kroothawk wrote:WD September confirms plastic oldblood and nurgle general and good looking  Dark Eldar court miniatures.
A WD scan would be really appreciated
I'm assuming the Nurgle Lord is for Fantasy and not 40k. Makes me wonder when they'll bring the single blister plastic models to 40k.
Hes not wearing power armor as kroot pointed out, but he should be big enough to be used in both  He looks awesome!!
Ouze wrote:
Is this a completely new model?
Yup!
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Post by: baron deathnyx
hey lets see some pics
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Post by: AesSedai
I have high hopes for the four-armed snakeman.
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Post by: Acardia
I'm looking forward to see the nurgle model. I'm going to start a WOC army at some point soon.
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Post by: Scottywan82
Yahoo!!! More plastic! Got to see those. I've bought every one released so far, just to build and paint. More! I demand more, GW!
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Post by: nectarprime
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Post by: Tmonster
Awesome!!! I relly nead to get some money togethera
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Post by: Kirbinator
Gotta admit, whether you like the company or not these new Dark Eldar pieces overall look very nice.
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Post by: boyd
Looks like Chaos and Lizardmen get a new plastic character model. I'm liking this
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Post by: streamdragon
So wait... what's the story behind the Dark Eldar snake thingy?
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Post by: Acardia
wow. that helmet looks a little small for the model, but rest looks nice. I may do a head swap.
Oldblood looks standard but nice.
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Post by: nels1031
streamdragon wrote:So wait... what's the story behind the Dark Eldar snake thingy?
Its a Sslyth, a xenos that Dark Eldar Archons use in their court as bodyguards since regular Dark Eldar can't be trusted, and they are also exceptional fighters to boot.
OT : I think they are the survivors of the Emperors Children decimation of the Laer race as detailed in "Fulgrim". Thats just my guess though.
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Post by: agnosto
I think the small helmet accentuates how much Papa Nurgle's beefed him up from the weak lil humie that he was.
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Post by: nerdfest09
I second the look of the bloated nurgle little head dude! like he's ready to burst pus over you in a second!
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Post by: Da Boss
Think I'll be picking up that nurgle lord! Make a decent "Revenant King" for my mantic undead.
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Post by: Blood Angel 17
Did you see what is coming up in October from the end of the White Dwarf?
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Post by: Earthbeard
Damned nice looking models.
No surprise I love the Nurgle guy.
But the two DE eldar court models are damned nice, I love the snakeman, shame it's only a single model, I'd love to get a bunch of those beauties.
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Post by: timetowaste85
I think the head needs to be replaced with a plaguebearer head, making a PERFECT herald of Nurgle for Daemons. Then 40k players can enjoy him too. I don't like the helmeted look, and I think he's awful as a human. But as a Daemon, he'd be great. Weird, I can hate him as one type of model, but just change the head and make him a Daemon, and we're golden. Oh well, this coming from the guy who hates oranges but loves orange juice, hates apple juice but loves apples, and hates blueberries but loves blueberry baked goods. I guess my opinion means donkey gak, huh?
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Post by: Saintspirit
timetowaste85 wrote:I think the head needs to be replaced with a plaguebearer head, making a PERFECT herald of Nurgle for Daemons. Then 40k players can enjoy him too. I don't like the helmeted look, and I think he's awful as a human. But as a Daemon, he'd be great. Weird, I can hate him as one type of model, but just change the head and make him a Daemon, and we're golden. Oh well, this coming from the guy who hates oranges but loves orange juice, hates apple juice but loves apples, and hates blueberries but loves blueberry baked goods. I guess my opinion means donkey gak, huh?
Suppose you hate donkeys, but love donkey gak?
I share your opinion, the nurgle lord as a WoC is not for my likling, but he'd fit very well with daemons. I can't imagine that guy counts as wearing Chaos Armour.
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Post by: streamdragon
NELS1031 wrote:streamdragon wrote:So wait... what's the story behind the Dark Eldar snake thingy?
Its a Sslyth, a xenos that Dark Eldar Archons use in their court as bodyguards since regular Dark Eldar can't be trusted, and they are also exceptional fighters to boot.
That's...
pretty awesome.
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Post by: Howard A Treesong
nectarprime wrote:
That's ridiculous.
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Post by: agnosto
Howard A Treesong wrote: That's ridiculous. Yeah, kind of looks like a snake in a tuxedo.
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Post by: Cryonicleech
Liking all this stuff!
The Nurgle hero could use a tad bit more armor, but nothing some Greenstuff/bits can't solve!
I am really liking all these plastic WHFB characters, good look.
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Post by: Necros
I like the lizardman and the fact that he's plastic .. but $13.25? for reals? guess I should just be happy it's cheaper than finecast......
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Post by: jmurph
Howard A Treesong wrote:
That's ridiculous.
Nonsense! He looks like a perfectly respectable chap who would offer you a spot of tea and only get to the hacking if you insist on fighting.
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Post by: Yugsor2011
more DE yay (sarcasm)
although the female model has me sold. glad the weirdboy is coming out in finecast
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Post by: His Master's Voice
The Lhamaean looks superb. Champion could do with some extra armor but that isn't a problem.
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Post by: Flashman
The DE bint would make a sound basis for a Lady Malys conversion IMHO.
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Post by: andrewm9
Lord Castellan Creed 1 mini sept 10 $18.25 Finecast
Colour Sergeant Kell 1 mini sept 10 $20.75 Finecast
Yikes, I am so glad I bought Creed and Kell in metal a few weeks ago since they only cost me 22$ instead of seperate and 39$. I suppose I won't be putting a hole in someone's foot if I drop Kell on them though with the Finecast version.
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Post by: Brother SRM
Yugsor2011 wrote:more DE yay (sarcasm)
Yeah, come on GW, support one of the more obscure armies like Space Marines! Dark Eldar have been your posterboys for the last decade, and it's about time you changed that!
I will never understand anyone complaining that Dark Eldar are getting new models. Considering how many years of the same lousy Gary Morley sculpts they had, I'm happy to see them get anything at all, let alone cool stuff like they've been getting.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I like them (other than the silly nonsense prices, especially for the Failcost minis - 4 arms just means two extra chances for miscasts!). Automatically Appended Next Post: Yugsor2011 wrote:more DE yay (sarcasm)
Are you kidding me? When the DE Codex came out it was a general assumption that the Archon's Court and some of the Beastmaster critters would never get models (I mean, the Tyranids are missing half their fething Codex - why would the DE get some obscure one-off models like the Sslyth or the Medusa?).
And yet here they are.
Meanwhile the Orks still haven't had a new Buggy/Trakk in damn near 15-ish years, and half the 'Nids are MIA.
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Post by: Kanluwen
The Poisoner is fantastic. Would be good for an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor's retinue. Perhaps someone like Valeria even.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Some small remarks:
1.) Yeah that's them.
2.) Lady Malys... erm ... the Lhamaean is a nice plastic Archon without conversion. BTW there is poison dripping from the sword in her left hand.
3.) The Nurgle general has a small head indeed, but the silver thing is a mask, not a helmet, the back is open.
4.) Difficult to see, but the Oldblood is descending a small stairs. Nice touch.
And answering another question:
There is no revealing last page, BUT a teaser page some pages ahead. See "Speculation on special September release (Update with WD September incoming page)" thread ( http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/270/371485.page
And it seems to be the fantasy naval game expected for September, that is now released in October.
Here more pics by Cohinor over at Warseer, who got his German WD subscription copy today (again nice how GW's new policy works out  ):
October teaser pic "Wanted!":
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Post by: army310
Howard A Treesong wrote:nectarprime wrote:
That's ridiculous.
Just like hordes and warmachine.
I like it it looks cool and the other stuff is +A anything new is good.
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Post by: Blood Angel 17
I love the nurgle guy, might just buy it to paint it
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Post by: MightyGodzilla
Wow the DE stuff is pretty great, both of them. At my FLGS I get 25% off for preordering. Think I'm gonna do that this week. Gotta do what ya need to so the prices stay down right.
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Post by: kenshin620
The nurgle dude somewhat reminds me of the pic in the warriors of chaos book. Pretty decent release aside from prices
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Post by: Ehsteve
Kroothawk wrote:
Hello plastic chakax. Finally some Lizardmen love from GW.
All the lords/heroes are metal with the exception of Kroq'gar: the one hero you'll never use. 12 from the 17 non lord/hero models are metal. It's the same story for Bretonnians...
Well at least they're getting around to it! Hoping to see a plastic Bret lord on mount/foot soon!
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Post by: Scottywan82
Liking the Old-Blood, but I think the Nurgle guy is the first of these plastics I'll pass on...
Not really my preferred aesthetic anyway.
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Post by: Worglock
Perkustin wrote:Whos betting the Sslyth will be a pig ugly model.
Me, thats who....
Let's see. Dakka GW thread Checklist.
1) Ugly Models/ GW can't sculpt - Check
2) Price Whining - Check
3) Nothing for Speds Mahreens - Check
4) "Finecost" - Check
5) Bad Photoshop that makes no sense - Check
6) "They should do <this> model instead" - Check
7) "I know something you don't" - Not Yet.
8) Personal attacks and flaming - Not Yet.
9) GW Marketing Rage - Not Yet.
10) <Insert Compnay Here> is better/nicer/not a war criminal - Not Yet.
6/10 Thread does not deliver.
Please don't troll the forum. Thanks ~ Manchu
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Post by: Zid
$25 for a single venomthrope...?
Seriously...?
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Post by: Ysclyth
Liking the Lhamaean, its sexy cool. I will definitely be getting one. I might want to go a different route for the head of the Sslyth though.
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Post by: kenshin620
Worglock wrote:Perkustin wrote:Whos betting the Sslyth will be a pig ugly model.
Me, thats who....
Let's see. Dakka GW thread Checklist.
1) Ugly Models/ GW can't sculpt - Check
2) Price Whining - Check
3) Nothing for Speds Mahreens - Check
4) "Finecost" - Check
5) Bad Photoshop that makes no sense - Check
6) "They should do <this> model instead" - Check
7) "I know something you don't" - Not Yet.
8) Personal attacks and flaming - Not Yet.
9) GW Marketing Rage - Not Yet.
10) <Insert Compnay Here> is better/nicer/not a war criminal - Not Yet.
6/10 Thread does not deliver.
11) "MUST DEFEND GW" poster Check
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Post by: English Assassin
Worglock wrote:3) Nothing for Spehs Mahreens - Check
I'm not too proud to admit I looked at the list and thought 'But... where are mah Spehs Mahreens?'.
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Post by: kenshin620
English Assassin wrote:Worglock wrote:3) Nothing for Spehs Mahreens - Check
I'm not too proud to admit I looked at the list and thought 'But... where are mah Spehs Mahreens?'.
Perhaps they're too busy being in a major video game?
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Post by: Ysclyth
kenshin620 wrote:English Assassin wrote:Worglock wrote:3) Nothing for Spehs Mahreens - Check
I'm not too proud to admit I looked at the list and thought 'But... where are mah Spehs Mahreens?'.
Perhaps they're too busy being in a major video game?
QFT
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Post by: Worglock
kenshin620 wrote:Worglock wrote:Perkustin wrote:Whos betting the Sslyth will be a pig ugly model.
Me, thats who....
Let's see. Dakka GW thread Checklist.
1) Ugly Models/ GW can't sculpt - Check
2) Price Whining - Check
3) Nothing for Speds Mahreens - Check
4) "Finecost" - Check
5) Bad Photoshop that makes no sense - Check
6) "They should do <this> model instead" - Check
7) "I know something you don't" - Not Yet.
8) Personal attacks and flaming - Not Yet.
9) GW Marketing Rage - Not Yet.
10) <Insert Compnay Here> is better/nicer/not a war criminal - Not Yet.
6/10 Thread does not deliver.
11) "MUST DEFEND GW" poster Check
Show me exactly where I "defended" GW in my post.
Go on. I'll wait.
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Post by: RiTides
nectarprime wrote:
My jaw literally dropped when I saw this image. Am I crazy or are some of you not in love with it? That Sslyth is amazing!!! The Lhamae standing behind it is great, too.
I'll definitely get a court at some point, just for the models. Good on ya, GW!  You continue to draw me in with the new DE releases when I was thinking of not continuing to build them... but I'm going to have to do it, if just for the models. They're pretty amazing because I have absolutely no interest in any other 40k army... they're putting most of the others to shame sculpt-wise, imo.
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Post by: Manchu
The DE range continues to stun and tempt me. I have to remember: I am not a DE player I am not a DE player I am not a DE player ... also, I am not made out of money I am not made out of money I am not made out of money ...
Really wonderful stuff!
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Post by: Popsicle
Did anybody else look at the Lhamawhatsit in the background, and think "Lady Malys"?
In other news, damn are Dark Eldar getting more and more tempting by the second.
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Post by: Melissia
lol, no Sisters, further proving the people who said we'd get new models or finecast recasts wrong.
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Post by: nectarprime
Melissia wrote:lol, no Sisters, further proving the people who said we'd get new models or finecast recasts wrong.
I would think they would come out with a true codex, as opposed to the WD one we just got.
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Post by: Mr Morden
Ysclyth wrote:Liking the Lhamaean, its sexy cool. I will definitely be getting one.
Ill second that - I'll need two though - one for me and oen fot he guy who paints them for me
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Post by: Necros
All the new DE stuff really makes me wish I started an army, but I went with goblins for my new army instead..
I'm just hoping the new Necron stuff gets as many cool new models in waves and waves too
But I do have to echo what's been said, it's kinda sad that half the new nids in the codex never got models made. Not even from FW. Heck even IG too.. what ever happened to plastic stormtroopers? how about models for psykers battle squad and others? Oh well, more waiting
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Post by: Manchu
It'd be nice if DE were a line in the sand: "from here out, we complete lines before releasing new books." Sadly, it's more likely that Jes told them he'd do the whole thing at once because they wouldn't need updating for another twelve years.
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Post by: Necros
well, I do kinda like the wave release thing.. If I'm starting a new army I can't afford every single model at once and having all that plastic laying around gets me burned out fast.. and the waves give you something to look forward to.. that said, it would be nice if they would tell us to look forward to in the first place, but that's a whole other dead horse discussion
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Post by: DrownedRat117
Kroothawk wrote:
Nurgle Chaos Lord 1 mini sept 10 $13.25 Plastic
Win.
Kroothawk wrote:
Lizardmen Saurus Oldblood 1 mini sept 10 $13.25 Plastic
Double win.
GW.. Th.. Tha.. Thaaa... Thank y- Thank yuh.. Thank you? Am I saying that right?
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Post by: puma713
The Nurgle guy looks like some gamers I know.
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Post by: Ascalam
Fat, horny, pin headed and thinks hygene is a greeting
I know a few like that too.
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Post by: Alpharius
Ascalam wrote:Fat, horny, pin headed and thinks hygene is a greeting
I know a few like that too.
I have to admit - I LOL'd.
Well said!
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Post by: Kroothawk
The Nurgle bloke is not that pin headed as the shown pics seem to indicate. As said, it is just a mask to cover the face, from the back the bald head and the fat neck make the head look a bit bigger, bigger than pin head at least.
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Post by: MajorTom11
Is it just me, or does the Nurgle dude look like a lower quality uncle meat??
???
DE models are great, the Syth is pretty good but the Lhaemean (sp?) is jaw droppingly fantastic.
Old blood... meh... I don't like the design of Lizardmen infantry in general, so no surprise I don't love this one lol.
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Post by: Grimtuff
Howard A Treesong wrote:nectarprime wrote:
That's ridiculous.
Indeed, it suffers from "Tau allies syndrome" as some other forums have pointed out, it just looks too much like a Xenos jammed in the parent army's armour. Which is essentially what it is. Plus the head looks very odd...
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Post by: kitch102
I'm now sold on taking a court of the archon with multiple sslyth. The Sslyth and Lhamaean have done it for me, that and the medusae but mostly these 2 newbies.
Truly hope that there is more to come of this standard, especially if it's DE
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Post by: Snord
Worglock wrote:Show me exactly where I "defended" GW in my post.
Go on. I'll wait.
You forgot that criticising Dakka = GW fanboy.
I was going to add 'It's not fair because the nids haven't got all their models yet' (checked, courtesy of HBMC, who's also become a champion of the Orks, it seems), but realised it's a sub-set of point 6.
I think that, once the Archon's court are grouped together, the slightly static posing will make sense. They're a command group, and appear to have been designed to look 'commanding' rather than being in combat. I'm sure Jes Goodwin (who's overseen the DE with a degree of care that no other army has received except the Marines) has thought about this. I think the Lahmean is a beautiful sculpt, while the Sslyth does look a bit too much like an alien that's been shoehorned into some DE armour.
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Post by: The Fragile Breath
Manchu wrote:The DE range continues to stun and tempt me. I have to remember: I am not a DE player I am not a DE player I am not a DE player ... also, I am not made out of money I am not made out of money I am not made out of money ...
Really wonderful stuff!
Ah, come on, Manchu! Come over to our side, it's really quite nice here!
RiTides wrote:My jaw literally dropped when I saw this image. Am I crazy or are some of you not in love with it? That Sslyth is amazing!!! The Lhamae standing behind it is great, too.
I feel the same way, I am most pleased with these two models. Heck, they're the first Finecast models I want really badly! I thought the Ur-guhl was okay, the Medusae was pretty cool, but these two, dang.
I kind of feel reluctant to convert the Lhaemon into a Lady Malys, because I want to have at least one of each court model, I'd feel weird having two models so similar when they're supposed to be completely different characters.
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Post by: Ascalam
It doesn't so much stun me as mug me in a dark alley and empty my wallet
I finally gave in and blew several hundred on the new Dark Eldar shinies that i've been (barring a couple of impulse buys) trying very very hard to not buy since they came out.
I'm a hopeless case
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Post by: boyd
agnosto wrote:
If you put a midget on top of him with a stick of dynamite or something of that nature and you clip the spikes, you'll have a great master blaster!
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Post by: Alkasyn
kitch102 wrote:I'm now sold on taking a court of the archon with multiple sslyth. The Sslyth and Lhamaean have done it for me, that and the medusae but mostly these 2 newbies.
Truly hope that there is more to come of this standard, especially if it's DE
Good models/= competetive rules.
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Post by: Manchu
The Fragile Breath wrote:Ah, come on, Manchu! Come over to our side, it's really quite nice here! 
Sorry, TFB, I just bought into Ogre Kingdoms. I was thinking of going on a 40k strike what with the WD Sisters codex but then GW releases this slew of gorgeous models and makes me love them again. Even so, they're already getting my ogre money!
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Post by: Brother SRM
Alkasyn wrote:
Good models/= competetive rules.
You've never used a "non-competitive" unit just because you liked the models? The guy isn't claiming to take them to 'Ardboyz or anything.
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Post by: Ascalam
Some people could care less about every unit in their list being optimised, you know
I run units slated as being 'suboptimal' all the time, and do pretty well with them. It also helps relieve the monotony of seeing the 'best' list all the time
Not everyone is a Tournament player (I am), or only interested in the 'best' units, and hang the rest (I'm not  ).
A unit isn't 'garbage' because it has a .01 less chance of killing a MEQ, for example. Sometimes I include a unit because i love the look of it, and if it does well good for it.
Another nice thing is that with the current obsession on list optimization the less optimal units almost never make the scene, which means that the optimizers have no idea how to fight them. They gain a new value from this beyond their stats/abilities. Automatically Appended Next Post: boyd wrote:agnosto wrote:
If you put a midget on top of him with a stick of dynamite or something of that nature and you clip the spikes, you'll have a great master blaster!
There is a grot with a stick of dynamite on one of the models  Change out the head and you're set
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Post by: ceorron
Lizardman old-blood conversion fodder, I think i'm having that one. Automatically Appended Next Post: Popsicle wrote:
Did anybody else look at the Lhamawhatsit in the background, and think "Lady Malys"?
In other news, damn are Dark Eldar getting more and more tempting by the second.
I'm very suprised that isn't Lady Malys, thats exactly how I imagined Lady Malys would look.
Now i'm trying to work out what is the minimum I can change that model so that it "is" Lady Malys.
Maybe a weapon swap might work?
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Post by: Ascalam
cut off the scababrd and replace with a blade perhaps?
That said, if this model is this awesome, what will Lady Malys's offical one look like? Can't wait to find out
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Post by: Ysclyth
Ascalam wrote:cut off the scababrd and replace with a blade perhaps?
That said, if this model is this awesome, what will Lady Malys's offical one look like? Can't wait to find out 
I have high hopes for what her blade will look like.
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Post by: The Fragile Breath
Manchu wrote:Sorry, TFB, I just bought into Ogre Kingdoms. I was thinking of going on a 40k strike what with the WD Sisters codex but then GW releases this slew of gorgeous models and makes me love them again. Even so, they're already getting my ogre money!
No worries, I'm happy you're supporting Fantasy, I find that to be great fun. I feel like I have more interest in the mechanics of Fantasy, but more interest in the fluff and models of 40k (mostly just Dark Eldar, though).
Brother SRM wrote:Alkasyn wrote:
Good models/= competetive rules.
You've never used a "non-competitive" unit just because you liked the models? The guy isn't claiming to take them to 'Ardboyz or anything.
Agreed, I find that odd. I like to use units that I pick solely because of the model look or fluff. I agree that I wouldn't do that in a tournament, but hey, who says you have to win every game?
ceorron wrote:Did anybody else look at the Lhamawhatsit in the background, and think "Lady Malys"?
In other news, damn are Dark Eldar getting more and more tempting by the second.
I'm very suprised that isn't Lady Malys, thats exactly how I imagined Lady Malys would look.
Now i'm trying to work out what is the minimum I can change that model so that it "is" Lady Malys.
Maybe a weapon swap might work?
I'd think just throwing a fancy blade (maybe from the Archon?) and doing something else with that scabbard would do the trick. I might get two, do a head and arm swap on one to make it Lady Malys, the other will just stay a Lhaemon, I want at least one of each court member. There's also another Lady Malys conversion idea I picked up from Grimtuff, so now I have decisions to make. I also think that if/when GWS releases her official model, I think it will be fantastic. The Archon, Succubus, Urien, and Lelith are all superb, if you ask me.
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Post by: Avatar 720
I think i'd be more enthusiastic about the Oldblood if it didn't look so much like a Temple Guard kitbash with a meaty pricetag on it.
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Post by: Reecius
Those models are excellent.
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Post by: RiTides
Manchu wrote:The Fragile Breath wrote:Ah, come on, Manchu! Come over to our side, it's really quite nice here! 
Sorry, TFB, I just bought into Ogre Kingdoms. I was thinking of going on a 40k strike what with the WD Sisters codex but then GW releases this slew of gorgeous models and makes me love them again. Even so, they're already getting my ogre money!
Woot! Imo, Ogres a perfect army to get into fantasy with. Lower model count, resilient, very killy... susceptible to initiative-based magic, but you can't have everything
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Post by: Kingsley
The Sslyth is IMO the best model GW currently produces. 100% dead-on. The Dark Eldar range continues to astound.
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Post by: Starchild
hmmm, the Sslyth model makes me wonder if the Emperor's Children didn't actually finish off the Laer race completely...
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Post by: MightyGodzilla
Melissia wrote:lol, no Sisters, further proving the people who said we'd get new models or finecast recasts wrong.
I'd rather not see Sister's Finecasts or recasts. To me it means they've got Sister stuff (plastics) in the works and don't want to open their purse creating something that's only going to be good for 6-7 months. Sister plastics are going to be good. Like Scourge good.
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Post by: Erasoketa
I'm in love with the new DE models. Too bad they're not plastic like those new WFB character blisters. GW striking again, having their best and their worst ideas at the same times (plastic character vs finecast).
I'll probable get one of each in the Archon's court for collecting, in the casting looks ok.
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Post by: Tyr Grimtooth
I didn't see TWC on the list.....oh yea, I forgot, SW do not get another wave.......ever.
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Post by: lord_blackfang
A new releases thread is not complete until someone says "My army should be getting a release instead!"
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Post by: Manchu
lord_blackfang wrote:A new releases thread is not complete until someone says "My army should be getting a release instead!"
Why aren't Sisters getting a full release??? (Two for one there, m'lord.) Automatically Appended Next Post: The Fragile Breath wrote: I feel like I have more interest in the mechanics of Fantasy, but more interest in the fluff and models of 40k (mostly just Dark Eldar, though).
I can't speak to the mechanics of Fantasy, but I know what you mean by digging the 40k fluff more -- and with releases like these in the DE line ... well, Fantasy isn't doing as well IMO.
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Post by: Piz
Creed!
Any pictures of Creed and Kell? <3
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Post by: Platuan4th
Piz wrote:Creed! Any pictures of Creed and Kell? <3 Are there any pics of existing models that are simply changing from metal to resin? Yeah, I think there may be a few thousand laying around the internet somewhere. Those DE models are almost good enough to get me to buy GW stuff again. Almost.
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Post by: Mantle
I really want to use a court of the archon but sadly it costs 38 pounds to field the smallest basic court, 38 pounds for 4 models, even models that awesome aren't worth that much!
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Post by: Ysclyth
Mantle wrote:I really want to use a court of the archon but sadly it costs 38 pounds to field the smallest basic court, 38 pounds for 4 models, even models that awesome aren't worth that much!
try fielding grotesques. jeez. $80 for a small squad of 4. I'm hoping i can get my hand on some discounted miscastes.
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Post by: kitch102
Brother SRM wrote:Alkasyn wrote:
Good models/= competetive rules.
You've never used a "non-competitive" unit just because you liked the models? The guy isn't claiming to take them to 'Ardboyz or anything.
Bingo baby. I'm lacking as far as gaming friends go, so I collect for fun more than to create a winning list, as it's rare that I'd get to field them. Though as I've said inother threads, if you count each character as an upgrade directly to the archon instead, it starts to make a lot more sense. Let's look at the lhamaean for instance: for a mere 10 points, I can give my archon 2x 2+ poisoned ranged attack with +1 wound (by this I mean that the lhamaean will take attacks away from the archon, by having enemy models attacking her instead of the archon). The same benefits can be said of all other models in the unit:
Working on minimum quantities as per the dex, your archon can have 12 base attacks and 8 wounds, 2x 2+ poisoned shots, 4x 4+ poisoned shots AND a template weapon that strikes at D6+1 strength / D6 AP. All for just 75 points of upgrades. Then add on any other special equipment that you're archon will take... certainly a unit for larger points games but it seems damned good to me. Oh, and these will all fit in a Venom.
Maxed out, s/he would have 32 attacks, 15 wounds, 3x 2+ poisoned shots, 12x 4+ poisoned shots, 2 of those wonderfully unpredictable template weapons + character upgrades. Sure you can't fit this lot in transport, but drop them out of a WWP and you're opponents in for a helluva surprise. Why? 'Coz no one feels this unit! And these are just baseline stats, ignoring any bonuses for charges, assault grenades, combat drugs etc etc etc.
Mantle wrote:I really want to use a court of the archon but sadly it costs 38 pounds to field the smallest basic court, 38 pounds for 4 models, even models that awesome aren't worth that much!
Though there is always a draw back!
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Post by: Goliath
Hmmm, I'm tempted by the Nurgle Champion, as a sort of quick model to do over a couple of weekends
I do have quite a few other models to do first though :(
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Post by: Rinkydink
A DE court is next up. The Lhamean is superb.
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Post by: Stormrider
Ascalam wrote:cut off the scababrd and replace with a blade perhaps?
That said, if this model is this awesome, what will Lady Malys's offical one look like? Can't wait to find out 
See if you can scratch build a Fan for her. I'm considering that with a Female Syrabite.
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Post by: Piz
Platuan4th wrote:Piz wrote:Creed!
Any pictures of Creed and Kell? <3
Are there any pics of existing models that are simply changing from metal to resin?
Yeah, I think there may be a few thousand laying around the internet somewhere.
Well excuse me, not all of us were gifted with the knowledge and insight about them simply changing from one material to the other without totally redoing the model.
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Post by: Erasoketa
Piz wrote:Well excuse me, not all of us were gifted with the knowledge and insight about them simply changing from one material to the other without totally redoing the model.
That's what they've been doing since Finecast was released some months ago http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat630002a&rootCatGameStyle=wh40k
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Post by: nectarprime
Piz wrote:Platuan4th wrote:Piz wrote:Creed!
Any pictures of Creed and Kell? <3
Are there any pics of existing models that are simply changing from metal to resin?
Yeah, I think there may be a few thousand laying around the internet somewhere.
Well excuse me, not all of us were gifted with the knowledge and insight about them simply changing from one material to the other without totally redoing the model.
Where have you been the last 2 months?
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Post by: gicks30
I like how the lizardman has an armoured Big Toe.
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Post by: kitch102
boyd wrote:agnosto wrote:
gicks30 wrote:I like how the lizardman has an armoured Big Toe.
The scenario is, Lizardman gets a pedicure.
Champion - "Let's have a look at that biggy you got there, could be in-growing..."
Lizardman - "You can feth off if you think you're doing the job with that bloody cleaver"
Champion - "What? This, ah this is nothing, this is just my nail clipper, you should see the scissors I use to trim my butt hair"
Lizardman - "..... I'm outta here....."
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