Perkustin is gonna be on a ventilator with a tube down his throat of a hole in his neck.
Perkustin is going to have someone suctioning the crap out of his lungs when his cilia are all destroyed.
Perkustin is picking a miserable long, drawn out way to die.
Grabzak goes on cigarette breaks after suctioning out some other guys lung.
Grabzak is going to know how to run his own ventilator.
Grabzak is a dumbass!
I love pretentious <bleeps> that insist on criticizing other's life choices. If you're overweight, have no endurance, and/or can't lift your own body weight than you have zero reason to bash smokers.
Remove the plank from your eye before you try to remove the dust from others.
Amaya wrote:I love pretentious <bleeps> that insist on criticizing other's life choices. If you're overweight, have no endurance, and/or can't lift your own body weight than you have zero reason to bash smokers.
Remove the plank from your eye before you try to remove the dust from others.
Can't smoking and being overweight both be bad? Why do we have to choose only one? If someone is fat and smokes do I have to pick just one or can I recognize that both are unhealthy?
I love when pretentious 's insist on criticizing peoples ability to criticize while doing the same thing themselves.
Amaya wrote:I love pretentious <bleeps> that insist on criticizing other's life choices. If you're overweight, have no endurance, and/or can't lift your own body weight than you have zero reason to bash smokers.
Remove the plank from your eye before you try to remove the dust from others.
I ran a few tri's this summer, does that mean I can bash smokers?
Amaya wrote:I love pretentious <bleeps> that insist on criticizing other's life choices. If you're overweight, have no endurance, and/or can't lift your own body weight than you have zero reason to bash smokers.
Remove the plank from your eye before you try to remove the dust from others.
Can't smoking and being overweight both be bad? Why do we have to choose only one? If someone is fat and smokes do I have to pick just one or can I recognize that both are unhealthy?
I love when pretentious 's insist on criticizing peoples ability to criticize while doing the same thing themselves.
What I said was incredibly straightforward. But as usual, it needs to be dumbed down for you.
If you're doing something that is unhealthy, you shouldn't criticize people for being unhealthy. Going up and bashing someone for smoking is on par with going up to some obese person and yelling "HEY FAT ASS LOSE SOME WEIGHT!"
People need to get off this stupid anti tobacco fad.
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Amaya wrote:I love pretentious <bleeps> that insist on criticizing other's life choices. If you're overweight, have no endurance, and/or can't lift your own body weight than you have zero reason to bash smokers.
Remove the plank from your eye before you try to remove the dust from others.
I ran a few tri's this summer, does that mean I can bash smokers?
Amaya wrote:What I said was incredibly straightforward. But as usual, it needs to be dumbed down for you.
If that is the response you have to make for a given argument, the stupid probably isn't on the end of the person responding to you. Look closer to home. You also seem to misunderstand what leads to both nicotine addiction as well as being overweight. Generally you seem uniformed on the subject. You keep yelliing though, if you are loud enough and rude enough, that will make what you say seem true.
Amaya wrote:If you're doing something that is unhealthy, you shouldn't criticize people for being unhealthy.
It actually is more complicated than that and that line of reasoning has been proven multiple times to be pretty poor. Though considering your main response is "you're stupid" I wouldn't really expect nuanced or critical thinking to take part in your considerations.
Amaya wrote:People need to get off this stupid anti tobacco fad.
I'm not sure you know what the word fad means. Smoking is extremely unhealthy for the person doing it and those around them. It has a negative environmental impact as well as all the cigarette buts don't mysteriously vanish into thin air. I remember on campus they put up ash trays for smokers to dispose of the buts yet I would still see people standing next to them tossing their cigs on the ground. I'm not calling for an outright ban, but I also don't think it is wrong to be able to say that it is a bad habit.
I smoke, have for almost three decades now...recently had a full check up..Doc said I'm healthy and in great shape..but ( and this is because he has to say it) I should " Probably stop smoking"...which made me chuckle as I saw the pack of Marlboro's in his pocket.
Sooner or later...every single one of us is going to die...and nothing is going to stop it from happening ...avoid smoking...die in a car wreck...avoid the car wreck..get torn apart by monkeys...avoid the monkeys...die laying in your own waste ,after gumming oatmeal for dinner, with no idea who you are anymore...
Yea sooner or later everyone of us will die, but Id rather not die a super painful and slow death, while my insides are being turned to mush. I havnt smoked in 3 or 4 years now. Good thing though, I used to smoke like a damn chimney
KingCracker wrote:Yea sooner or later everyone of us will die, but Id rather not die a super painful and slow death, while my insides are being turned to mush. I havnt smoked in 3 or 4 years now. Good thing though, I used to smoke like a damn chimney
And that's all well and good KC ..you made a choice to be healthier and are sticking by it...I cut out eating a lot of junk and have dropped almost fifteen pounds...
My point is...I know cigarettes aren't packed with vitimans and mineral ..I know they're not good for me...but I choose to smoke anyway...I don't need every other Mo I run into telling me how bad they are...O can read the side of the pack just fine...
Incidently..I have several Uncles who all smoke.. are all in their 60's and fit and fine...and a few great uncles who all smoked and lived into their late 80's...so perhaps I'll beat the odds...if not...hey..I did it to myself.
Smoking is a filthy, disgusting, expensive habit. If someone comes over and smokes in my house the stink lasts the entire day, it's vile. Plus kissing someone (or even being near someone) who smokes is enough to make me feel sick.
You could always tell the smoker to take it outside. I mean it is your house right?
FITZZ - Yea its your choice, and Im not one of those nuts that shoves it into peoples faces. I cant stop eatting potato chips, so we all have our vices
KingCracker wrote:You could always tell the smoker to take it outside. I mean it is your house right?
FITZZ - Yea its your choice, and Im not one of those nuts that shoves it into peoples faces. I cant stop eatting potato chips, so we all have our vices
I usually do, but sometimes you go out for a drink or a piss and they've lit up meanwhile.
Texas Instrument wrote:I'm no dr Phil, but sounds like Amaya has some weight issues?
Or at least resentment towards someone who was.
I have issues with people who cry when someone else is smoking or using tobacco in any form. I see that a lot, especially with the new smoking bans in SA and the constant tax hikes.
Any use of tobacco can cause health issues, BUT it depends on what you're doing and how frequently you use it. If you smoke a pack or more a day like my Grandpa did for 20 years you're going to probably end up on oxygen tank.
Yeah, we get it, smoking is bad. Guess what? Being obese is bad too. People in good physical condition have a tendency to live longer. Where's the fat tax? Why aren't we banning people from eating fast food? Why isn't the government giving tax breaks or some form of incentive for people to work out? There's a bunch of pro-vegan/Vegetarian that love to attack fast food, but fast food isn't the cause of the so called obesity epidemic.
In conclusion, yes I get annoyed when some person with their own physical problems harasses someone over their decision to smoke/chew/dip/shootnicotinedirectlyintotheirbloodstream. I also get very slightly annoyed when Ahtman tries to get off on a rant because he can't read a post without try to read between the lines and twist what people say.
Amaya wrote: I also get very slightly annoyed when Ahtman tries to get off on a rant because he can't read a post without try to read between the lines and twist what people say.
So basically you're upset that I called you on your hypocrisy and that upset you (or in internet parlance, U Mad), and TexasInstrument is on the nose with you having some issues to work on.
Amaya wrote: I also get very slightly annoyed when Ahtman tries to get off on a rant because he can't read a post without try to read between the lines and twist what people say.
So basically you're upset that I called you on your hypocrisy and that upset you (or in internet parlance, U Mad), and TexasInstrument is on the nose with you having some issues to work on.
And let me quote my original post.
"I love pretentious <bleeps> that insist on criticizing other's life choices. If you're overweight, have no endurance, and/or can't lift your own body weight than you have zero reason to bash smokers.
Remove the plank from your eye before you try to remove the dust from others."
Now, I have a strong feeling that you fail at sarcasm forever. Which is quite sad because my second statement is a clear reference to a Biblical verse.
"You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." Matthew 7:5.
Now that you have a reference point it's obvious that when I say 'love' I mean 'hate'.
To sum it up. I said I don't like hypocrites. Especially the fat ones who get off on bashing tobacco users. Yes, I have a problem with people who are overweight mainly because it is incredibly easy to stay in relatively decent shape (ie stop drinking soda). Do I get on their case about it? No. But the second that dip can comes of my pocket someone says, "That's bad for you, that causes cancer!"
Hey, that's your 4th soda today and you're already 30 pounds overweight. We all have vices, get off my back bro.
Amaya wrote:I also get very slightly annoyed when Ahtman tries to get off on a rant because he can't read a post without try to read between the lines and twist what people say.
I am down to two/three smokes a day for the past three weeks. I've been smoking half a pack/full pack a day for over a decade since highschool. It is very difficult to quit. I am doing pretty well although posting this is making me want to smoke.
Amaya wrote:I also get very slightly annoyed when Ahtman tries to get off on a rant because he can't read a post without try to read between the lines and twist what people say.
Welcome to the internet.
Yeah, that's why the only site I ever bother posting is here.
Radiation wrote:I am down to two/three smokes a day for the past three weeks. I've been smoking half a pack/full pack a day for over a decade since highschool. It is very difficult to quit. I am doing pretty well although posting this is making me want to smoke.
I recently quit dip (did about a can a week for a year) and luckily I was able to just quit with no relapse. Now to get off the Monster...
Best of luck to you, I've never been big on cigarettes so I don't know hard it is to quit them. Slowly cutting back seems to be the best route.
I gave up smoking about a year ago. After smoking for 15 years. It's weird...
I seem to have beaten it. It's over! I don't want a cigarette any more. I don't feel like a cigarette. In fact, the idea of smoking makes me feel kind of nauseous and disgusted. At last I'm free.
And yet... Being a non-smoker doesn't really suit me. I don't really know who I am any more. I find myself thinking that maybe I should take up smoking again, not because I miss cigarettes at all... It's because I miss myself.
No one ever warns you about that part. I always figured that once I beat the addiction I'd be happy, but I'm not. I find my self in some weird smoking limbo. I don't really want to be a smoker, but at the same time I don't know how to be anything else. I feel very lost. Kind of like Brooks in Shawshank Redemption... I just want to be back where things make sense (even if it is a bad place).
Sometimes I accompany other people on their cigarette breaks, I figure even if I don't smoke, I can still enjoy standing out in the cold. I always thought that would be difficult or embarrassing, but half the time I don't think people even notice that I'm not smoking. I don't really notice either.
Another strange thing is never having a lighter any more. Lighters are super useful... But I don't really have the motivation to keep possession of one nowadays. I'm going to feel like such a doofus if I end up lost on a moor some day, and then die of hypothermia because I quit smoking and wasn't able to make a fire.
To be honest being a non-smoker is kind of boring. Since I quit I feel like I'm boring. I start to wonder if maybe I was always boring, and just didn't realise it because I was too caught up in thinking I was a cool rebellious smoker (or something like that). Maybe all this time I've just been a person of minimal character, hiding behind a cigarette.
Or maybe I'm just unhappy because I don't desperately need anything any more. I used to think that the endless craving was the worst thing in the world, especially when you run out of cigarettes. There have been times when I've walked miles in the freezing cold and the middle of the night just to buy a pack. But now I wonder if maybe the worst thing is not wanting anything. No craving, nothing to strive for, no reward, just emptiness. Like a spoiled child who gets everything they want but instead of being satisfied just becomes indifferent.
I will admit I've previously felt uneasy around non-smokers. Bunch of complaining little pu**ies, with their nice smelling clothes and homes, and their health, and their jogging. I always had a suspicion that deep down non-smokers had no souls... now I've become one I'm sure of it. But given the choice between a slow painful death and living without a soul... It's a tough one.
Smacks wrote:
I will admit I've previously felt uneasy around non-smokers. Bunch of complaining little pu**ies, with their nice smelling clothes and homes, and their health, and their jogging. I always had a suspicion that deep down non-smokers had no souls... now I've become one I'm sure of it. But given the choice between a slow painful death and living without a soul... It's a tough one.
Amaya wrote:I have issues with people who cry when someone else is smoking or using tobacco in any form. I see that a lot, especially with the new smoking bans in SA and the constant tax hikes.
You americans. You don't know anything about 'tax' on cigarettes. What do you pay, a dollar a pack? It's like when you complain about the cost of petrol. You make me laugh.
Amaya wrote:I have issues with people who cry when someone else is smoking or using tobacco in any form. I see that a lot, especially with the new smoking bans in SA and the constant tax hikes.
You americans. You don't know anything about 'tax' on cigarettes. What do you pay, a dollar a pack? It's like when you complain about the cost of petrol. You make me laugh.
Not since the early 90's has it been near there i don't think. Not on sale I think a basic pack of Marlboro's is in the $6 area, theough usually I think they go fro about $5 a pack, give or take you area.
I quit a few years ago. After 10 years of smoky smoking I decided to give it all up. Wasn't easy, but I made it and now just smelling a cigarette makes me wonder wtf I was doing for those 10 years.
Do I feel better? Yeah I do, I feel great.
But it did lose me most my friends as they all smoke and don't like visiting me any more since I make them smoke outside. And I don't like visiting them any more because their smoke now makes me feel sick. :/
I guess the best thing to do is to never start in the first place. Or have nicer friends that are willing to put off their smoking for a few hours until you are leaving.
I smoked 20 a day since I was 16 until I was 28 or so, then I went to my local GP and got prescribed some stuff called Champix. After multiple failed attempts to give up, I quit full stop with these pills after a month. No relapses since and absolutely no desire to go back to it.
I feel better, I like the feeling of actually having money in my pocket rather than staring at my bank balance and working out how many fags I can afford until next pay day. When I was a smoker, I was almost always broke because, partly due to the insane cost of cigarettes here in the UK, I was always scrabbling around to pay for that next pack of smokes.
I have heard it said that there is nothing more militant anti-smoking than an ex-smoker. Can't say that is true for me; I don't object to people smoking - the only thing I won't tolerate is people smoking near my daughter. I hate walking around certain parts of town where some people insist on surrounding their heads in a permanent fog - it isn't particularly pleasant to be around or have to walk behind that, less so for a small child.
Howard A Treesong wrote:Not sure on the exchange rate, but a pack of fags in the UK it about £6 now, which must be about $10.
Pack of 20 Marlboro will set you back around £7.20 .
!!! Well I don't pay that much attention to the prices of cigarettes but that's incredible. Still cheaper than smoking finecast though. Mmm, all that resiny goodness.
I don't smoke. I've had a few celebratory cigars in my day (graduations, baby and the like) and I enjoy the flavor, but I don't think I could ever be a regular smoker. It's simply too damn expensive.
If you smoke a pack a day you could quit and buy a box of Space Marines every week.
Snurl smokes little cigars. About seven in a day.
They help Snurl to stay calm and focused so he doesn't rip somebody's face off who desparately needs it.
Snurl has tried to quit several times, but always starts again after a few months.
I despise it. I despise especially people who smoke ON HOSPITAL PROPERTY and especially infront of the entrance.. I do wish they'd die in a fire as it's really annoying and unhealthy.
I can't imagine smoking INSIDE, but I don't smoke cigarettes. I smoke a pipe like any civilized gentleman. It's cheap, smells good, and doesn't leave me feeling sick afterward like cigarettes do. I make no allusions toward how much more/less heathy it is than smoking cigarettes, but I prefer to measure my life in how much I enjoy it, not how long I live.
Please bear in mind not all smokers are that way. I consider myself a polite smoker. I only smoke outside, my butts find their way to a trash can and I positively do not smoke around kids or pregnant ladies.
Though I have once been told by an old lady that she couldn't stand walking behind me due to the smell...on a street. She overtook me and gave me a harsh lecture. Crazy.
I started smoking back in December due to severe depression anxiety and stress. On my second attempt at giving up, been a few months now, and have done it cold turkey. However lately I'm getting quite stressed with not finding a job in past 9 months. Even though I know its not good for me, I'm getting more and more cravings and my will getting weaker. Several times now I have found myself at the shop counter almost asking for a pack of smokes.
It also doesn't help that my flatmate smokes, the same brand I did. Even though he smokes outside seeing the lighters, packs or the smell sets off cravings big time.
Lukus83 wrote:
Though I have once been told by an old lady that she couldn't stand walking behind me due to the smell...on a street. She overtook me and gave me a harsh lecture. Crazy.
To be fair to that crazy old lady, smokers just don't realise how much they smell, even in the open air. You would be surprised at the amount of conditioning your brain undergoes to convince yourself that smoking is pleasurable, tastes good, smells alright etc etc. The stuff that I was taking to stop smoking:
works as a nicotinic receptor partial agonist apparently. What this means in reality is, once you start taking the pills, it strips away all of the barriers that your brain has created in order to keep you smoking. So you start to *really* taste what a cigarette is like and what it smells like instead of what your brain has been fooling you into thinking. Remember the first cigarette you had? Pretty awful, huh? One of the reasons that people continue to smoke is because the brain conditions itself to ignore that taste in order to continue getting the nicotine hit - its essentially 'fooling' you into liking the taste and smell of cigarettes so you keep smoking; nicotine is that addictive.
I may sound a touch evangelical here; I am, I make no bones about that. I struggled for years to quit smoking and nothing worked. Then I took a short course of these pills and all done.
All of which is a roundabout way of saying, that's why even on an open street, cigarette smoke can still be offensive to some.
I have no doubt it smelt bad, but I was surprised that she came up to me and basically told me to put the damn thing out.
But anyways, I digress. Today was my last morning smoke with my cup of coffee. I'm making a conscious effort to NOT bring any with me when I go to work so I will be clean for at least 11 hours (or 19 if you include sleeping).
I smoke two cigars or so a week. More in the summer, a lot less in the dead of Ohio winters.
Even my doctor doesn't seem to care.
Also, let's not pretend that casual contact with second smoke is unhealthy. Sure, if you're a severe asthmatic, it can trigger an attack. But for the other 99% of humanity, second hand smoke is only unhealthy in long term, constant contact.
It's still impolite to smoke around non-smokers, which is why I do my smoking outside, on my property, but I'm also not addicted...
Amaya wrote:To sum it up. I said I don't like hypocrites. Especially the fat ones who get off on bashing tobacco users. Yes, I have a problem with people who are overweight mainly because it is incredibly easy to stay in relatively decent shape (ie stop drinking soda). Do I get on their case about it? No. But the second that dip can comes of my pocket someone says, "That's bad for you, that causes cancer!"
Hey, that's your 4th soda today and you're already 30 pounds overweight. We all have vices, get off my back bro.
Heres the thing though.
If you are overweight, fine, the only person it affects is you, you can go on living your life and the only problem you may have is going down the aisle in an aeroplane (I know that there are other problems)
If you smoke, you are adversely affecting the health of those around you, as they have no choice but to inhale the crap that you exhale.
Used to smoke cigars and cigarettes every few days just socially, over a beer at the pub say, or out clubbing. Never really got into smoking bigtime.
Then found Shisha smoking with herbal Hukka. Much better for you, and better on the bank. 15 minute smoke in the morning = all day worth and the charcoal and flavorings cost about a tenner each, with water free and the shisha about 130 bucks for a decent two person one.
There is a reason why Top gear used them in the middle east.
Hold the phones, are you guys telling me smoking is bad for you?!?!?
WHAT?!??! If only I had known, if only I was subjected to years of school assemblies and ad campaigns, then I might have known the dark terrible secret that smoking is indeed bad for you!
Why has no one ever told me this before?! Why cruel world why?!?
asimo77 wrote:Hold the phones, are you guys telling me smoking is bad for you?!?!?
WHAT?!??! If only I had known, if only I was subjected to years of school assemblies and ad campaigns, then I might have known the dark terrible secret that smoking is indeed bad for you!
Why has no one ever told me this before?! Why cruel world why?!?
Because your adopted and your parents don't love you?
So you people who smoke or have stopped smoking. How many a day was your habit? Did you feel an addiction?
Me, I used to smoke about a pack a day but for the last 6-7 years I smoke 2-3 a day, many days going by without smoking at all.
I never smoke indoors and always wash my hands and rinse my mouth after smoking. Most people that have not seen me smoking are surprised to find I do.
I find if I go over 3 cigs a day for over a week I stop for a month or so to kill off what I see as a growing addiction.
Even though I see myself as a moderate, even casual smoker every non-smoking yahoo thinks that I'm a soon to be cancer-ridden smokestack.
As been said before in this thread. Put your fat laden sammich or glass of booze down before insulting my particular habit.
Ma55ter_fett hopes that his state will raise taxes on cigarettes to help close the budget gap.
Ma55ter_fett thinks everyone who throws their cigarette butts on the ground should have their head smashed in a door.
Ma55ter_fett thinks then when people smoke in clearly marked non-smoking area's it should be legal to sic Ma55ter_fett's dog on them.
Ma55ter_fett thinks that people who smoke in their car's with the windows rolled up and a baby in the back seat should have all their fingers mangled with a hammer prior to losing custody of said baby.
Ma55ter_fett doesn’t give a gak if people continue to smoke or not. He just hopes they do so responsibly.
Ma55ter_fett is going into the medical field and will happily buy himself a house and cabin in northern Minnesota with hospital bills paid by smokers.
When I smoked it was 4/5 a day most days. Sometimes none sometimes 1 or 2. It all depended on how I was feeling on the day. One day when I was really stressed and low I smoked 20 in 4 hours.
Albatross wrote:Albatross is going outside to blow his smoke into the face of a non-smoker's child, because he's here for a good time, not a long time. Deal with it.
...Thank you Alby, I needed a good chuckle right about now...
About smokers smelling bad that's not entirely true, I know this one attractive girl who smokes but she rarely smells of it then again my theory is her long hair traps the scent of the shampoo she uses, causing her to
Cheesecat wrote:About smokers smelling bad that's not entirely true, I know this one attractive girl who smokes but she rarely smells of it then again my theory is her long hair traps the scent of the shampoo she uses, causing her to
smell like a rose.
Well there you have it folks, smokers don't actually smell because one guy knows one girl who smokes and doesn't smell. Thank you for busting this myth.
Cheesecat wrote:About smokers smelling bad that's not entirely true, I know this one attractive girl who smokes but she rarely smells of it then again my theory is her long hair traps the scent of the shampoo she uses, causing her to
smell like a rose.
Well there you have it folks, smokers don't actually smell because one guy knows one girl who smokes and doesn't smell. Thank you for busting this myth.
That, being said most smokers do smell pretty bad.
Cheesecat wrote:About smokers smelling bad that's not entirely true, I know this one attractive girl who smokes but she rarely smells of it then again my theory is her long hair traps the scent of the shampoo she uses, causing her to
smell like a rose.
Well there you have it folks, smokers don't actually smell because one guy knows one girl who smokes and doesn't smell. Thank you for busting this myth.
That, being said most smokers do smell pretty bad.
I'll have you know I smell off rainbows, chocolate and angel kissed sunshine...
Cheesecat wrote:About smokers smelling bad that's not entirely true, I know this one attractive girl who smokes but she rarely smells of it then again my theory is her long hair traps the scent of the shampoo she uses, causing her to
smell like a rose.
Well there you have it folks, smokers don't actually smell because one guy knows one girl who smokes and doesn't smell. Thank you for busting this myth.
That, being said most smokers do smell pretty bad.
I'll have you know I smell off rainbows, chocolate and angel kissed sunshine...
Hey, I'll take smoker stench over bad BO any-day at least it isn't so bad that I can't sit in the room with them.
Well, I imagine it feels good so in that case yes it is good.
Meh, it serves to calm you...that's about it..
Y'know, even as a rabid smoker...I honestly advise younger folks not to start...it's an expensive habit that will probably eventually kill you...or at least feth up your health...I usually tell them that as I screw a cigarette into my mouth and light up...just to confuse the hell out of them.
Actually, one for the pro-smoking lobby, recent studies have shown that smokers are less likely to contract Parkinson's Disease so that's one thing it has going for it...
Interesting, though I suppose it makes sense.Parkinsons is partially (or wholly, not entirely sure which) caused by not enough dopamine(which tends to cause a euphoric calming sensation) in the brain.
Anyway, dad caught me trying to light up when i was five and he challenged me to a duel using his katanas... it was certainly amusing and we both have scars from that particular event, and i have never touched a cigarette again... except when dad can't find the pack he left on the counter top.
Nicotene doesn't actually calm you per se, it's a stimulant. The reason you feel calmer is because the nagging craving you've been having in the back of your mind has suddenly eased.
I don't like smoke and wouldn't date a girl who smokes. I despair of my friends who start, because whatever about "enjoying life while it's here" do you have to pay stupid amounts of money to smell like an ashtray and hasten your end while you're at it?
But one of the best anti smoking arguments I know of happened fairly recently.
For the last 20 years, so pretty much almost as long as I can remember, my father has had terrible problems with his feet. He's a policeman, and it started when he was walking the beat. He got corns, bunions and verrucas, and no chiropodist could make it better. He was in pretty constant pain with his feet all the time, and it gradually got worse and worse. His mood degraded too, til he was pretty much a humourless troll man. As the years went by, the problems got more severe until his toes began to curl into a clench of agony, and he had shooting pains up as far as his knee when he would walk any distance. He was a completely grim fether to be around during these years, starting arguments over any little thing and generally acting like someone had pissed in his cornflakes. He was limited to a sort of crabwise shuffle when he was walking around, and couldn't stand for long periods.
He gave up smoking this last year. Last time I went home, I came out of the airport looking for my dad. I had to doubletake at the man walking towards me. Walking. I cannot describe the absolute jarring shock of seeing my dad life his foot confidently and slam it down into the ground with apparent visceral delight. He was smiling too, practically grinnng.
I couldn't get over it. He walks all the time now, does yard work, and generally is in a much better mood all the time. He cracks jokes constantly.
Apparently, when he stopped smoking the circulation to his extremeties improved markedly. This allowed his own immune system to fight the problems in his feet more effectively and generally helped heal the damaged area. It healed by itself within about 6 months. He still goes to the chiropodist and he's not pain free, but compared to the crippling agony he's endured for the last decade it's absolutely nothing to him.
I met a 93 year old woman who was in the ICU for kidney problems who had smoked since she was 14.
I've smoked for 20 years now and I can already tell that I'm not going to be one of those fortunate few who hit the genetic lottery and can smoke into there nineties. I cough up thick brownish gak in the mornings and sure as heck couldn't run past a 1/4 mile, when I used to do 4-5 mile runs 10 years ago.
Once I get health insurance I'm going to try Chantix, as I've already tried every non medicinal method of quitting, but I'll never be one of those militant ex smokers.
Hell, I'm going into respiratory therapy as a profession, I wish more people would smoke so I can gets paid!
I gave up smoking by using an electronic cigarette. I didn't use it as a replacement. Just something I could turn to instead of a cigarette for when I really wanted to smoke.
I personally think nicotine patches etc... are useless. The idea that smokers continue to smoke because they are addicted to nicotine must be one of the biggest fallacies ever. Yes nicotine is addictive and makes you feel like a cigarette. But nicotine addiction is the easiest thing in the world to overcome... All you need to do is not smoke for about 3 days and you're over it. The difficult part to overcome is the social and emotional attachments that are associated with smoking.
What causes most people to fall off the wagon is being around other people who are smoking. I'm pretty sure anyone on this board who has ever tried to quit, or even just tried to cut-down, will be able to confirm that trying to deny yourself a cigarette, while being with a group of people chatting and smoking is pretty impossible. I've seen it happen many times, with myself and with friends. People can be good for days, or even weeks, but once they get outside with their friends, they only last about 20 mins before they are begging someone to give them a cigarette.
Fact is: it's actually quite easy not to smoke when you're at home on your own. Now try having a few beers and watching all your friends light up, that's when it gets really tough. The reason is because people want to participate in a social activity. Failure to participate is not only unsatisfying, it actually causes social anxiety too. That is the reason why nicotine replacement has such a low success rate when it comes to helping people to quit. It might take the edge off your craving, but the craving isn't the real issue. The real clincher is the anxiety, which is caused by not being able to 'join in'.
This is why I found electronic cigarettes about a million times more useful as a cessation aid. I was still able to sit down with everyone else and blow a big smoke ring, and then I felt happy and comfortable again. Even when using the 0% nicotine vapour. It's not the nicotine that's important, it's the taking part.
I never thought I would be able to quit smoking, but it turned out to be quite easy and painless with the electronic cigarette... (just make sure you keep a spare battery charged at all times).
Da Boss wrote: I despair of my friends who start, because whatever about "enjoying life while it's here" do you have to pay stupid amounts of money to smell like an ashtray and hasten your end while you're at it?
I suppose rum at least doesn't make you smell like an ashtray.
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Smacks wrote:The difficult part to overcome is the social and emotional attachments that are associated with smoking.
For most "alcoholics*" this is true as well.
*Air quotation because many people that laymen refer to as alcoholics are not alcoholics.
Cheesecat wrote:About smokers smelling bad that's not entirely true, I know this one attractive girl who smokes but she rarely smells of it then again my theory is her long hair traps the scent of the shampoo she uses, causing her to
smell like a rose.
Well there you have it folks, smokers don't actually smell because one guy knows one girl who smokes and doesn't smell. Thank you for busting this myth.
Ah, one but your myth was so well founded in fact and not opinion how could it be busted?
Some smokers stink, some fat people stink, some people just stink. I never smell of smoke because I care. My ex girlfriend was a pack a day smoker and she didn't smell of smoke and her kisses didn't taste of smoke either. This was when I didn't smoke.
Cheesecat wrote:That, being said most smokers do smell pretty bad.
And they taste even worse...but perhaps that's because I find the ones where their oral hygiene wasn't top notch to begin with. o_O
I used to smoke - not for very long mind you - but I stopped. It just never caught on with me, but I really don't care who smokes, how much, or why. It's their body and their life. The only reason I'd get upset is if someone was blowing smoke purposefully into my face or my 14mth old sons face. Then I'll tell them where to go and how to get there.
But now after saying that...cherry flavoured cigarillos (sp?) I find really quite tasty. Haven't had on it at least 2 years though.
I used to smoke cigarettes and feel cool, now I can't stand the taste of it, and just realized how bad it smells. I still smoke, but its vastly more expensive now.
I smoke only "premium" hand-rolled cigars. I dont smoke where my kid will get the smoke (so I'm at least down wind a good few feet). I want her to realize when she is old enough that there is nothing wrong per se with the choice of smoking. Just do it responsibly, and in balance with the rest of your life. That old saying, "Everything in moderation" really rings true for me. I get a ton of exercise, due to my job, and I eat about as healthy as I can (most of the time), I drink but not to excess. It's all about balance, because too much of some things turns into a problem.
Do I know that smoking or tobacco in general will "kill" me? yeah i do.
Do I think that we (Americans) need MORE laws telling me where I can not smoke? Feth no! In fact, I feel like smoking is, in an abstract way, a 1st Amendment right, and laws which prohibit me from smoking in certain places violate that.
Do I move, if my smoking bothers someone? Generally yes, depending on how I'm asked. If they have kids, I dont try to get my smoke all over them, and I never TRY and blow smoke at someone, thats just rude all over.
For those who are familiar with AFN, what I am tired of seeing is all the anti-smoking "commercials" we're subjected to out here. I honestly do not think that anyone can legitimately say these days, that they didn't know that tobacco use can harm or kill them, and because of this, I think that it's a huge waste of time to air "quit now" commercials to adults in the military.
filbert wrote:Actually, one for the pro-smoking lobby, recent studies have shown that smokers are less likely to contract Parkinson's Disease so that's one thing it has going for it...
Hey, even the worst bands in the world can make 1 good song, right?
MrH wrote:Posting in the 3rd person is nearly as annoying as smoking in public.
Yet no where near as annoying as Non-Smokers who think they own "Public"...
Non smokers aren't risking your health and stinking up the place, though.
If you're that scared about your health, better stop using a cellphone, being anywhere near a CRT monitor, eating anything that's not organic, being anywhere near a car that is running, going out in the sun, etc.
MrH wrote:Posting in the 3rd person is nearly as annoying as smoking in public.
Yet no where near as annoying as Non-Smokers who think they own "Public"...
Non smokers aren't risking your health and stinking up the place, though.
If you're that scared about your health, better stop using a cellphone, being anywhere near a CRT monitor, eating anything that's not organic, being anywhere near a car that is running, going out in the sun, etc.
So you're comparing stuff you need to do to live a "normal" life to sucking in some ignorant fools second hand smoke? OK.
What he's saying is that breathing the OCCASIONAL second hand smoke wont affect you. If you situate yourself near someone who is smoking non-stop then it is you who is ignorant.
Really starting to see what some people are on about when they talk about "self-righteous ex-smokers"
Here's an example of what I meant ...
" While exiting my car, in a public parking lot, some fellow asked me ( in a snotty self rightous tone) if I would "please put that nasty thing out" ( indicating the cigarette I had in my mouth)...
Now he's standing at least fifteen feet away, in a lot filled with car exhaust...but somehow my cigarette is endangering him...right.
...I enjoyed the look on his face when I advised him to go perform a series of indecent actions on himself...
Apparently he was as sensitive about profanity as he was about smoke.
But still, you feel that you must try everything possible to remove what enjoyment some people have in smoking?? If it bothers you so much, then you should get rid of all of your smoker friends, so that it never gets into your flat or apartment, because if you ask a "friend" to not smoke in your place, but they do it anyway, they really arent friends.
There is also this thing called moving.. if you are going some place and someone else is smoking, you can move. It's their right to smoke, unless of course they are smoking in a no smoking area, in which case you are well within your rights to ask them to move.
As to the cost of smoking, yeah, its expensive, if you let it be. My own habit costs me less than 20 dollars per month to smoke cigars. yes, that 200 dollars a year could be "better" spent elsewhere, but I get enjoyment from this hobby. Of course, there are guys who are a carton a week smokers and obviously, they spend quite a lot more, but ultimately who are YOU to tell them what they can and cannot spend their hard earned (or not so hard earned) money on? If we can go around saying that people cannot buy cigarettes, cigars, or chewing tobacco, then who's to say that someone else is 'offended' by our "plastic army men" hobby, and keep us from partaking/buying them?
If you're outside in a place that isn't designated as non-smoking, and more than 10 feet away from someone and start hassling them about their cigarette then you are a complete fool.
Monster Rain wrote:If you're outside in a place that isn't designated as non-smoking, and more than 10 feet away from someone and start hassling them about their cigarette then you are a complete fool.
I say this as a non-smoker. Well, ex smoker.
God I want one.
According to the same Stanford University study that the city of New York used in their smoking ban law, a person must be within 3-4 feet of a smoker AND down wind to get ANY harmful effects from second hand smoke. If you are upwind, no harmful effects at all. Now, if you are indoors, it's a whole other matter about wind direction and proximity, but I can generally get on board with most places "indoor" smoking laws. Where I am in Germany has done things the "most" correct of places I've been... Basically, smoking inside is banned, but clubs and bars, and pubs can designate a "smoking" room that is completely segregated from the rest of the establishment.
Ensis Ferrae wrote:If we can go around saying that people cannot buy cigarettes, cigars, or chewing tobacco, then who's to say that someone else is 'offended' by our "plastic army men" hobby, and keep us from partaking/buying them?
That would be a valid argument if miniatures stunk and caused cancer, but they don't.
Ensis Ferrae wrote:Now, if you are indoors, it's a whole other matter about wind direction and proximity, but I can generally get on board with most places "indoor" smoking laws. Where I am in Germany has done things the "most" correct of places I've been... Basically, smoking inside is banned, but clubs and bars, and pubs can designate a "smoking" room that is completely segregated from the rest of the establishment.
Sure, I'm fine with indoor smoking bans. I wish it was left up to individual establishments instead of the government, but that's a discussion for another thread I think.
Ensis Ferrae wrote:If we can go around saying that people cannot buy cigarettes, cigars, or chewing tobacco, then who's to say that someone else is 'offended' by our "plastic army men" hobby, and keep us from partaking/buying them?
That would be a valid argument if miniatures stunk and caused cancer, but they don't.
Being an obnoxious prick who needs to force their beliefs on everyone is far more likely to send you to the grave than smoking.
At least, if you have the balls to say it to my face than over the internet of course.
Ensis Ferrae wrote:If we can go around saying that people cannot buy cigarettes, cigars, or chewing tobacco, then who's to say that someone else is 'offended' by our "plastic army men" hobby, and keep us from partaking/buying them?
That would be a valid argument if miniatures stunk and caused cancer, but they don't.
Ensis Ferrae wrote:If we can go around saying that people cannot buy cigarettes, cigars, or chewing tobacco, then who's to say that someone else is 'offended' by our "plastic army men" hobby, and keep us from partaking/buying them?
That would be a valid argument if miniatures stunk and caused cancer, but they don't.
Being an obnoxious prick who needs to force their beliefs on everyone is far more likely to send you to the grave than smoking.
Ensis Ferrae wrote:If we can go around saying that people cannot buy cigarettes, cigars, or chewing tobacco, then who's to say that someone else is 'offended' by our "plastic army men" hobby, and keep us from partaking/buying them?
That would be a valid argument if miniatures stunk and caused cancer, but they don't.
Being an obnoxious prick who needs to force their beliefs on everyone is far more likely to send you to the grave than smoking.
Ensis Ferrae wrote:If we can go around saying that people cannot buy cigarettes, cigars, or chewing tobacco, then who's to say that someone else is 'offended' by our "plastic army men" hobby, and keep us from partaking/buying them?
That would be a valid argument if miniatures stunk and caused cancer, but they don't.
Ahhh, but many of the miniatures owners reek worse than any pack a day smoker could ever aspire to, I'll take the smell of smoke over unwashed neckbeard any day.
Ensis Ferrae wrote:If we can go around saying that people cannot buy cigarettes, cigars, or chewing tobacco, then who's to say that someone else is 'offended' by our "plastic army men" hobby, and keep us from partaking/buying them?
That would be a valid argument if miniatures stunk and caused cancer, but they don't.
Ahhh, but many of the miniatures owners reek worse than any pack a day smoker could ever aspire to, I'll take the smell of smoke over unwashed neckbeard any day.
Smokers can't smell how awful they smell, the same way dirty people can't, so you can't really say they smell worse than you do. You need a clean, non smoker to be a fair judge.
MrH wrote:
That would be a valid argument if miniatures stunk and caused cancer, but they don't.
Stinks to you?? I, and those I smoke with quite enjoy the smell of an actively lit cigar, to us, it is quite aromatic. Determining what smells bad, and what doesnt, is the individual doing an action. This doesnt give someone else the right to get hostile in another's face because it offends their sensibilities.
And who knows, somewhere down the line, the Surgeon General here in the US will come out with a statement saying that "plastic miniatures are now known to have harmful effects to humans, including various cancers or death." Afterall, just about everywhere you turn, the SG has said just about everything causes cancer.
Monster Rain wrote:I would bet cash money that the majority of people would take smoker smell over gamer funk, any day of the week.
In my unit, I am subjected to both.. There are some seriously nasty fethers in the Army, and none of the nasty ones are smokers. ALL the smokers in my unit do not smell like smoke. With good hygiene, it is not hard to be TFG in regards to smell.
Monster Rain wrote:I would bet cash money that the majority of people would take smoker smell over gamer funk, any day of the week.
Hell, that's a sucker bet...despite those who seem to believe otherwise...
The non smokers that I know have no trouble hugging me when I enter a room/bar/party..etc..
I'm 100% sure they would gag if they got close to some of the folks I've encountered in FLGS.
Ensis Ferrae wrote:Yep, I'm a scotch drinking, cigar smoking, tatted up vile, evil person
frankly, I wouldn't have it any other way. At least I dont smell bad (unless I have a cigar in hand )
Well, I don't smoke cigars or drink scotch, I'm a cigarette and whiskey man myself, but I have the tatted up /evil bases covered...can I still be vile.
Smokers only really smell of smoke when they smoke a lot and don't clean themselves, don't change clothes, only just had one a few seconds ago, or spend most of their time inside a smokey area. Most my friends smoke and they really don't smell that bad. Sure, you can smell something, but it's not nearly as bad as someone who doesn't wash. When I visited some family a while ago there were 5 people smoking in a small room for half a day and I literally got sick of the smell on them.
It all depends on what they smoke, how much, where they smoke, and how many there are at the same time.
Smacks wrote:I gave up smoking by using an electronic cigarette. I didn't use it as a replacement. Just something I could turn to instead of a cigarette for when I really wanted to smoke.
I personally think nicotine patches etc... are useless. The idea that smokers continue to smoke because they are addicted to nicotine must be one of the biggest fallacies ever. Yes nicotine is addictive and makes you feel like a cigarette. But nicotine addiction is the easiest thing in the world to overcome... All you need to do is not smoke for about 3 days and you're over it. The difficult part to overcome is the social and emotional attachments that are associated with smoking.
This... is one of the biggest fallacies I've ever read.
Smacks wrote:I gave up smoking by using an electronic cigarette. I didn't use it as a replacement. Just something I could turn to instead of a cigarette for when I really wanted to smoke.
I personally think nicotine patches etc... are useless. The idea that smokers continue to smoke because they are addicted to nicotine must be one of the biggest fallacies ever. Yes nicotine is addictive and makes you feel like a cigarette. But nicotine addiction is the easiest thing in the world to overcome... All you need to do is not smoke for about 3 days and you're over it. The difficult part to overcome is the social and emotional attachments that are associated with smoking.
This... is one of the biggest fallacies I've ever read.
When it came to having a smoke I tended to not smoke in certain clothes, carried gum with me and deodorant just in case. Especially when I was about to go on duty, I would make sure that I didn't smell too much.
Just so there's no misconception, I have no problem with smokers and don't mind being around them, but I hate it when smoke is blown towards my face (mind you most are courteous enough not to do this).
I'm a smoker. I love cigs. Having one right now in fact..
But I loathe people who try to tell me what I can and cannot do with my life. I had a brassy woman come up to my car not 5 minutes ago and ask me to put it out.....My car! In a public car park! Seems I was offending her delicate nostrils, never mind the fact that it's blowing a mini gale here right now...
I was polite(ish), and told her to go jump, but I had to admire the big brass balls on her anyway.
Might be hard to believe but i swear on my life I used Warhammer 40k and ebay to stop smoking. I quit the week I started 40k, I needed more loot for the hobby and wanted to quit , so i would spend my carton of smoke money every week at GW or Ebay before i got a chance to buy smokes ...being in chicago thats 60$ a week I got to spend. Now to be 100% honest i did smoke an e-cig for a week or two in the first month but they kinda blow imo and you might as well smoke the real deal. Also i did partake in some of my legal in cali friend too which helped and harmed at the same time. I could use it to fill a craving, but doing so would result in more cravings. I smoked for 18 years a pack and a half every day , and never thought i could quit ....but i f ing did it and I'm proud to no end with my self, you can do it too......think how big your armies would swell if you bought plasticrack instead.
I've noticed that a LOT of 40k hobbyists tend to smoke. Why, I dunno. But I think I have a connection. Many military vets I know smoke. Many military vets play 40k. Ipso facto, may 40k hobbyists smoke.
I've had a bad history with other people smoking. My brother has asthma, which makes it hard to be around smokers. Many of my smoking relatives died from the cancer smoking gave them (mind, they were smoking pipes, which dont smell that bad, really). Said brother and myself have both had cigarettes extinguished on us as children. Not fun. I still have the circular scars.
Some smokers decide that since they smoke, they will infringe in non smoking areas, or think that they are tougher than non smokers BECAUSE they smoke. These piss me off. Fine, you look tough, but just try to catch me. I dare you. And if you collapse, I'm not stopping to help.
I refuse to smoke mostly because I want to be able to run and ski to my hearts content. When I grow old an senile... maybe. Also, I hate the smell of cigarette smoke.
I lived in europe for a while, where EVERYONE smokes, and it is culturally accepted. Therefore, I respect people's choices to smoke or not, and if and when to quit.
In america, our children go through health classes DRILLING into them anti smoking thoughts and fears. THe one thing the did teach me, however, is this:
If there were not smokers and thus a smokes industry, smoking would be fairly clean. However, the industry puts so many chemicals into each cig that, well, I will ask any smoker, politely, to blow their smoke the other way.
Wow, another long rant. I wish, sometimes, I didnt have so much to say.
Albatross wrote:...some times I don't even inhale, I just light it up and blow it on people. Because I'm bigger, stronger, and they can't stop me.
Rock. And. Roll.
I've never thought of doing this...until now.
...I'm beginning to contemplate rushing up to people I see in restaurants and diners now, BIG people..as they shove gobs of cake and pie into their maws and lecture them on the dangers of obiesity whilst lamenting the fact that I don't want there future triple bypass cost to be a burden on the health care system...
This is the now dead comedian Bill Hicks, and if you enjoy those bits I fully suggest looking this guy up as he was a master comedian and very very smart, funny guy.
Also curious, anybody smoke pipes? I started about a year ago and absolutely love them, favorite flavor is maple. I always get the strangest looks while smoking them though, like no one has ever seen a guy under 50 smoke a pipe.
Don't smoke, can't stand the god awful smell. If you want to light one up then I'm not going to guilt trip you, but man the smell is like adealing with a fart, only more poison and less stink.
I'm rather pleased that movies, restaraunts, bars and the like are starting to take more anti-smoking measures.
Indeed, especially with his fear of doing comedy after surviving lung cancer, comon it's funny.
Though it was pancreatic cancer that killed him.
One thing I can agree with however as a smoker are the laws against smoking inside bars and restaurants. I understand that the second hand smoke stinks to non smokers and I understand there dissire to not want to have to deal with a bunch of built up lingering stinking smoke. Besides going out for a smoke and standing in cooler, open air is more refreshing an environment to have my smoke in in my opinion.
Im sorta choked about the air ports though, many of the larger ones no longer give smokers a place outside to smoke after passing security. I mean come on, how hard is it to put up a fence outside an un-used door, of which there is many?
Also in Vancouver there are laws against smoking within 6m (or approx. 20 ft.) of any doors. Now ok, I'll play by the spirit of the rule, I wont stand directly in front of a door being used while smoking, which I wouldn't have done before as I put it on par with standing in the middle of a door way as an annoyance. But there are cops actually going around with tape measures and watching areas where it is imposable to still stand on a side walk and not be withing 20 ft. of a door. Where are people supposed to stand? The road? Its down town Vancouver we got guys shooting up in plain sight and the cops are chasing smokers with tape measures?
yournamehere wrote:Im sorta choked about the air ports though, many of the larger ones no longer give smokers a place outside to smoke after passing security. I mean come on, how hard is it to put up a fence outside an un-used door, of which there is many?
Those smoke rooms, good god. It's like someone set off a smoke grenade in their it's so thick. Also, the smoke smell is like...condensed. Even my mom who was in there puffing away said it was hell.
I'm a smoker, kind of wish I wasn't now but I am. I do however try and be polite about it. I haven't smoked inside a building since the U.K smoking ban a good few years ago.
KingCracker wrote:Is murdering people still illegal? Curse our backwards legal system!
you can go to jail for owning an airsoft gun and shooting it because some neighbors get nervous when an orange tipped rifle that looks plastic and then the police come in and everything gets strange when you start to describe the gun is fake and even test fire it to show it is competely legal. Yeah a 17 year old owning a M-16.....
That would be a valid argument if miniatures stunk and caused cancer, but they don't.
I'm sure if you melt them (the plastics) down and huff the smoke they will. A special, limited-edition, best-in-the-world, GW cancer. So don't burn your GW plastics and huff them.
Chromedog doesn't smoke (but has). Chromedog's Dad smoked. Chromedog's dad had lung cancer. Chromedog's dad was also an electroplater exposed to small amounts of hexavalent chromium and various and sundry volatiles and noxious chemical fumes for nigh on 40 years.
Doctors could NOT confirm (under those conditions) that smoking was to blame for the cancer. It probably DID give him emphysema though.
The cancer didn't kill him. Nor did the emphy. He was in remission. Chemo killed him (well, side effects.).
As Dennis Leary once said. 'It's not "life sucks then you die." but 'life sucks, then you get cancer - then you go into remission - then you get hit by a bus leaving the clinic and then, maybe, just maybe, you die." .'
That would be a valid argument if miniatures stunk and caused cancer, but they don't.
I'm sure if you melt them (the plastics) down and huff the smoke they will. A special, limited-edition, best-in-the-world, GW cancer.
So don't burn your GW plastics and huff them.
Chromedog doesn't smoke (but has).
Chromedog's Dad smoked.
Chromedog's dad had lung cancer.
Chromedog's dad was also an electroplater exposed to small amounts of hexavalent chromium and various and sundry volatiles and noxious chemical fumes for nigh on 40 years.
Doctors could NOT confirm (under those conditions) that smoking was to blame for the cancer.
It probably DID give him emphysema though.
The cancer didn't kill him. Nor did the emphy. He was in remission.
Chemo killed him (well, side effects.).
As Dennis Leary once said. 'It's not "life sucks then you die." but 'life sucks, then you get cancer - then you go into remission - then you get hit by a bus leaving the clinic and then, maybe, just maybe, you die." .'
.." And that, Ladies and Gentlemen pretty much sums up life in a nutshell...now, where's Cliffy with that bow and arrow?"
chromedog wrote:
Chromedog's dad was also an electroplater exposed to small amounts of hexavalent chromium and various and sundry volatiles and noxious chemical fumes for nigh on 40 years.
chromedog wrote:
Chromedog's dad was also an electroplater exposed to small amounts of hexavalent chromium and various and sundry volatiles and noxious chemical fumes for nigh on 40 years.
Ironic name choice?
Only from a certain point of view.
Long-time cyberpunk roleplayer. The chrome is an aspect of that genre. Chrome is everywhere. It's all shiny.
Was for a time, considered 'the old dog' amongst my crowd (Can't teach me new tricks, because I already know them as old ones).
Used to use "ChromeGod" during my gaming - mistyped it one time and it stuck.
Besides, I have silver-white hair, and I'm still a long-in-the-tooth old dog.
When people (other gamers online, mainly) meet me, it helps them put a face to the name (white hair kinda stands out).
's insist on criticizing peoples ability to criticize while doing the same thing themselves.
..you made a choice to be healthier and are sticking by it...I cut out eating a lot of junk and have dropped almost fifteen pounds...
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