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Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 00:02:19


Post by: Nicholas


If you were to kill one person in the entire 40K universe who would it be and how?

Note: I realize that a lot of people will immediately think draigo, so I will ask to leave him out unless you really really really need to say him.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 00:14:23


Post by: purplefood


Sicarius...
Something unheroic i think.
Fell down a big cliff and got trod on.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 00:25:38


Post by: Molten Butter


The Emperor. Then the timeline would progress, albeit in a negative fashion.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 00:34:51


Post by: Pouncey


The Emperor. Crushed pelvis due to a massive force of Sororitas infiltrating the throne room and enjoying their god in new ways.

Just because it'd make an interesting headline in the newspapers of Azeroth- I mean, the Milky Way.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 00:37:48


Post by: Coolyo294


Abbadon the armless failure. Preferably he would be stepped on by a Squiggoth.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 00:38:22


Post by: Commisar Wolfie


Calgar
Tripping and snapping his head off on some mundane object.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 00:39:35


Post by: Leonus Cohol


Every single Blood Raven.
Especially Cyrus.
All killed by a Commissar with a bolt to the head.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 00:42:42


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Draigo. Then we can all finally move on...


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 00:46:57


Post by: Grey Templar


+1 for Sicarus.

Most definitly unheroic. I am thinking about something involving a Grot and a socket wrench.

Or possably have Sicarus kill Lucious the Eternal. That would suck.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 00:48:19


Post by: forruner_mercy


Pouncey wrote:The Emperor. Crushed pelvis due to a massive force of Sororitas infiltrating the throne room and enjoying their god in new ways.

Just because it'd make an interesting headline in the newspapers of Azeroth- I mean, the Milky Way.

Why did you mention Azeroth?


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 00:56:38


Post by: Pouncey


forruner_mercy wrote:
Pouncey wrote:The Emperor. Crushed pelvis due to a massive force of Sororitas infiltrating the throne room and enjoying their god in new ways.

Just because it'd make an interesting headline in the newspapers of Azeroth- I mean, the Milky Way.

Why did you mention Azeroth?


Sorry bout that, for the past 2-3 weeks I've been playing World of Warcraft constantly. So now, when I think of a fictional world, I think of Azeroth.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 01:02:25


Post by: Void__Dragon


Pouncey wrote:The Emperor. Crushed pelvis due to a massive force of Sororitas infiltrating the throne room and enjoying their god in new ways.

Just because it'd make an interesting headline in the newspapers of Azeroth- I mean, the Milky Way.
I kinda loled.

And Khorne. Preferably after being violated by Slaanesh.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 01:04:21


Post by: Pouncey


Void__Dragon wrote:
Pouncey wrote:The Emperor. Crushed pelvis due to a massive force of Sororitas infiltrating the throne room and enjoying their god in new ways.

Just because it'd make an interesting headline in the newspapers of Azeroth- I mean, the Milky Way.
I kinda loled.

And Khorne. Preferably after being violated by Slaanesh.


Seriously. That guy really needs to loosen up and relax, in that order.

He's always all, "I NEED MORE BLOOD! MORE SKULLS FOR MY THRONE!" like a vigorous blood donor or a wacked-out paleontologist or something...


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 01:05:05


Post by: Grey Templar


I would imagine the Emperor doesn't have much of a Pelvis to crush after what Horus did to him. O'yes, we arn't told HOW Horus wounded the Emperor are we...


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 01:07:37


Post by: Pouncey


Grey Templar wrote:I would imagine the Emperor doesn't have much of a Pelvis to crush after what Horus did to him. O'yes, we arn't told HOW Horus wounded the Emperor are we...


Oh, you little spoilsport, you...

I oughta give you such a hugging!


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 01:10:56


Post by: Void__Dragon


Pouncey wrote:Seriously. That guy really needs to loosen up and relax, in that order.

He's always all, "I NEED MORE BLOOD! MORE SKULLS FOR MY THRONE!" like a vigorous blood donor or a wacked-out paleontologist or something...


I laughed pretty fething hard at the blood donor and especially the paleontologist analogy.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 01:13:13


Post by: English Assassin


For whom would one get the most XP? Khorne or the Outsider?


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 01:15:40


Post by: purplefood


English Assassin wrote:For whom would one get the most XP? Khorne or the Outsider?

Outsidr. He has a higher level.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 01:18:19


Post by: SpessMehrenD3R9


Marneus Calgar, by beating his head in with his own beloved gigantic coloring book (Coderp Astartes)

Lol @ the vote for Empy, at least he gets death by snu-snu


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 01:28:07


Post by: forruner_mercy


Void__Dragon wrote:
Pouncey wrote:The Emperor. Crushed pelvis due to a massive force of Sororitas infiltrating the throne room and enjoying their god in new ways.

Just because it'd make an interesting headline in the newspapers of Azeroth- I mean, the Milky Way.
I kinda loled.

And Khorne. Preferably after being violated by Slaanesh.

This would make my day.
Also helps that Slaanesh is my favorite Chaos God.
Khorne is my least favorite.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 01:28:08


Post by: Begel Dverl


Lucius the Eternal.

Hit by an artillery shell or something so he can't possess anyone.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 01:28:24


Post by: Pouncey


Void__Dragon wrote:
Pouncey wrote:Seriously. That guy really needs to loosen up and relax, in that order.

He's always all, "I NEED MORE BLOOD! MORE SKULLS FOR MY THRONE!" like a vigorous blood donor or a wacked-out paleontologist or something...


I laughed pretty fething hard at the blood donor and especially the paleontologist analogy.

'
I aim to please.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 01:33:22


Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer


Pouncey wrote:
Void__Dragon wrote:
Pouncey wrote:The Emperor. Crushed pelvis due to a massive force of Sororitas infiltrating the throne room and enjoying their god in new ways.

Just because it'd make an interesting headline in the newspapers of Azeroth- I mean, the Milky Way.
I kinda loled.

And Khorne. Preferably after being violated by Slaanesh.


Seriously. That guy really needs to loosen up and relax, in that order.

He's always all, "I NEED MORE BLOOD! MORE SKULLS FOR MY THRONE!" like a vigorous blood donor or a wacked-out paleontologist or something...

(shameless self plug)
Khorne does in my Mighty Morphin Power Primarchs thread...
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/341674.page


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 01:34:20


Post by: forruner_mercy


Begel Dverl wrote:Lucius the Eternal.

Hit by an artillery shell or something so he can't possess anyone.

+1


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 01:50:48


Post by: Jackster


Robot Girlyman, for being such a d-bag to everyone.
Unlike Fulgrim, I'd make sure he's dead, probably with a vortex missile.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 01:56:58


Post by: Coolyo294


Jackster wrote:Robot Girlyman, for being such a d-bag to everyone.
Unlike Fulgrim, I'd make sure he's dead, probably with a vortex missile.
Guillimans current fate is actually worse then death in some ways.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 01:57:11


Post by: guyperson5


Duke Slicus by a Gretchin. Take that,


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 02:04:58


Post by: Lyzin Locrian


The Space Pope. I'd like to see him strangled by one of his own guards just for being so darn useless. Of course, then the guard, and all the other Tau would fail their morale check and run away like idiots, probably because his body would smell like rotting old person.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 02:09:21


Post by: acekevin8412


Leonus Cohol wrote:Every single Blood Raven.
Especially Cyrus.
All killed by a Commissar with a bolt to the head.


What do you hate so much about the Blood Ravens? I happened to like Tarkus and even Cyrus, mostly in-game though, especially with this head-sploding sniper rifle in the last game.

Coolyo294 wrote:Abbadon the armless failure. Preferably he would be stepped on by a Squiggoth.

I'll one up you. Crushed by a ginormous Squiggoth turd.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 02:15:44


Post by: Coolyo294


acekevin8412 wrote:
Coolyo294 wrote:Abbadon the armless failure. Preferably he would be stepped on by a Squiggoth.

I'll one up you. Crushed by a ginormous Squiggoth turd.
*Cracks knuckles* Time to one up the one up. Asphyxiating in the Drops of an Ork Settlement.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 02:24:40


Post by: acekevin8412


OOOOOOh, that's hard. How about while choking from the extrement, he slips in some, and impales himself through the eye of some undigested bone.

If I had to do someone in, it'd be Chenkov, killed by his own men when they get sick and tired of him sending them in like garbage.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 02:35:13


Post by: Grey Templar


Nah, it isn't Ironic enough.

How about he is killed when, after ordering several million men into a breech, he enters an enemy fortress and he just so happens to have failed to send enough men in to die. He is killed by the enemy, the ironic bit is that his death is the one that wins the day.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 04:36:21


Post by: pinoypower


I would yell "you aren't the boss of me!" and kill a commissar. you said anything


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 04:44:51


Post by: acekevin8412


Begel Dverl wrote:Lucius the Eternal.

Hit by an artillery shell or something so he can't possess anyone.


Just wondering, if a group of people killed him, like what happened with Julius Caesar, or facing a firing squad where every gun is loaded, what would happen to Lucius?


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 05:18:28


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


Creed. He would be killed by Colonel Mustard in the Library with a lead Pipe.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 05:18:34


Post by: spudkins


Ultramarine chapter wiped out due to falling down hole full of badgers.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 05:32:38


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


acekevin8412 wrote:
Begel Dverl wrote:Lucius the Eternal.

Hit by an artillery shell or something so he can't possess anyone.


Just wondering, if a group of people killed him, like what happened with Julius Caesar, or facing a firing squad where every gun is loaded, what would happen to Lucius?



Emperor's Sexy Disco Shirt! You found the solution!

We just need to kill him with a firing squad of armed Servitors to seal the deal. Real people have too much feeling and would muck it up.




Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 08:33:39


Post by: Belexar


Well, I don't want Draigo to die. Zwhat he's going through (getting cuddled by the chaos god of magic every day so that he thinks he's killing daemons and writing his name on the chest of a primarch when he's really killing his own men) is worse than any death imaginable.

Now, the Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor guys... Cuddled by hordes and hordes of daemonnettes. And liking it.

Inappropriate language removed. Please check the rules to see what I'm talking about. - Lorek


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 08:47:31


Post by: Trondheim


Preferably Huron Blackheart, for beeing so goddamned useless. I would see him snu snued by that monkey of his, the the video sendt to all the traitor legions


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 08:52:56


Post by: Brother Coa


Tough choice...

I would kill the Emperor so that he may resurrect and kick Chaos butt big time...


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 08:55:19


Post by: Molten Butter


Iur_tae_mont wrote:Creed. He would be killed by Colonel Mustard in the Library with a lead Pipe.
Would the Creed jokes stop, or would this become another Alpharius incident?


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 08:57:43


Post by: Jubear


In b4 Matt Ward


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 09:00:54


Post by: Brother Coa


Jubear wrote:In b4 Matt Ward


He is not actually 40k character but real world character.
And he doesn't need to die, he just need to get fired...


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 09:21:16


Post by: RandomSauce19


Marneus Calagar by swallowing a Bomb Squig


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 10:14:20


Post by: Lord Rogukiel


Molten Butter wrote:
Iur_tae_mont wrote:Creed. He would be killed by Colonel Mustard in the Library with a lead Pipe.
Would the Creed jokes stop, or would this become another Alpharius incident?


Oh well done. Now that you've named Alpharius, this thread will never be safe again, run before, he, they or it gets here!



Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 10:23:17


Post by: Goofball_inc


Abaddon

Killed by his most trusted lieutenant because he's failed to destroy the Emperor.

The irony would be palpable and delicious.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 10:58:11


Post by: Colonel Dakura


+1 for Khorne being violated to death by Slaanesh


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 13:29:56


Post by: SomeRandomEvilGuy


acekevin8412 wrote:Just wondering, if a group of people killed him, like what happened with Julius Caesar, or facing a firing squad where every gun is loaded, what would happen to Lucius?

Slaanesh would almost certainly resurrect him regardless, in one of those people, or just any servant it cares to. Lucius is not going to permanently die because he gets killed by something that does not feel emotion or by multiple people.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 14:53:04


Post by: Viersche


Abaddon - slipping on a banana peel and falling impaling himself on his oversized power claws


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 16:13:01


Post by: GangstaMuffin24


Brother Coa wrote:
Jubear wrote:In b4 Matt Ward


He is not actually 40k character but real world character.
And he doesn't need to die, he just need to get fired...

He's not a politician. You can't just fire him because you don't like the job he does.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 16:36:25


Post by: Lord Rogukiel


SomeRandomEvilGuy wrote:
acekevin8412 wrote:Just wondering, if a group of people killed him, like what happened with Julius Caesar, or facing a firing squad where every gun is loaded, what would happen to Lucius?

Slaanesh would almost certainly resurrect him regardless, in one of those people, or just any servant it cares to. Lucius is not going to permanently die because he gets killed by something that does not feel emotion or by multiple people.


I killed lucius with a wraithlord once. What happens then?

Lord Wolfson of the Wolfson wahtnot. The special character who rides on that wolf thing.

How? His wolf got hungry.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 16:54:14


Post by: Urien_Rakarth


Hmm... hard one. I've got to go for some the Emperor being killed by a Grey Knight for being a heretic and betraying the Emperor. That would be deliciously ironic and strange.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 16:57:15


Post by: Void__Dragon


I would prefer the Emperor to have his plug pulled, killing his body, but letting him ascend to become a true Warp entity.

Draigo sees him, mistakes him for a daemon, and proceeds to kill him.

That would be best, IMO. That way he gets to die twice.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 16:58:50


Post by: black templar


Khorne


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 17:00:56


Post by: Belexar


I always thought Lucius could actually get killed by a Necron or by an SM's machine spirit. But then again I guess Slannesh would find a way to bring him back anyways...


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 17:01:09


Post by: KilroyKiljoy


Eldrad, by an Ork Rokkit Launcha.

Frsrs. Them eldar are arrogant.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 17:21:10


Post by: Coolyo294


KilroyKiljoy wrote:Eldrad, by an Ork Rokkit Launcha.

Frsrs. Them eldar are arrogant.
He's already dead, and Slaneesh is having her way with his soul.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 17:21:43


Post by: KilroyKiljoy


Coolyo294 wrote:
KilroyKiljoy wrote:Eldrad, by an Ork Rokkit Launcha.

Frsrs. Them eldar are arrogant.
He's already dead, and Slaneesh is having her way with his soul.


Then kill him again.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 17:40:37


Post by: acekevin8412


Void__Dragon wrote:I would prefer the Emperor to have his plug pulled, killing his body, but letting him ascend to become a true Warp entity.

Draigo sees him, mistakes him for a daemon, and proceeds to kill him.

That would be best, IMO. That way he gets to die twice.


+1 to this, and if we can get enough irony together we can create a chaos god of Irony. (yeah it's not an emotion I know)


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 17:43:39


Post by: KilroyKiljoy


acekevin8412 wrote:
Void__Dragon wrote:I would prefer the Emperor to have his plug pulled, killing his body, but letting him ascend to become a true Warp entity.

Draigo sees him, mistakes him for a daemon, and proceeds to kill him.

That would be best, IMO. That way he gets to die twice.


+1 to this, and if we can get enough irony together we can create a chaos god of Irony. (yeah it's not an emotion I know)


+2. Decay's not an emotion either, yet Nurgle. Irony God, I expect him to be........iron-y. Punny, I know, but seriously, Irony God should like metal. Then the Iron Warriors become cultist troops.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 18:11:36


Post by: Brother Coa


Void__Dragon wrote:I would prefer the Emperor to have his plug pulled, killing his body, but letting him ascend to become a true Warp entity.

Draigo sees him, mistakes him for a daemon, and proceeds to kill him.

That would be best, IMO. That way he gets to die twice.


Draigo couldn't kill him. Someone powerful as the Emperor should be equal to Chaos Gods themselves. And I think he would recognize him ( after all he wouldn't change his aperance ).


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/18 18:20:33


Post by: acekevin8412


Well Draigo DID go through each daemon's realm and wreck everything. At the very least, he'll put up a fight.

KilroyKiljoy wrote:+2. Decay's not an emotion either, yet Nurgle. Irony God, I expect him to be........iron-y. Punny, I know, but seriously, Irony God should like metal. Then the Iron Warriors become cultist troops.


Wrong, the Lord of Irony would obviously be made of wood.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 04:11:51


Post by: Belexar


Hm... A fifth chaos god... That would be interestic. Now we must make a new thread to decide his name and design his appereance, realm, daemons and cult. Once that's done, we put it in 1d4chan.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 04:14:52


Post by: Avatar 720


Slaanesh

by Snu Snu

Kinky Snu Snu


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 04:19:10


Post by: Void__Dragon


Brother Coa wrote:Draigo couldn't kill him. Someone powerful as the Emperor should be equal to Chaos Gods themselves. And I think he would recognize him ( after all he wouldn't change his aperance ).


It was a joke.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 04:41:46


Post by: Beastmaster


Captain Sicarius

maybe he gets flattened by a tank that got flipped
I only want this to happen because Sicarius is overall just a dick


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 09:20:41


Post by: Brother Coa


Void__Dragon wrote:
Brother Coa wrote:Draigo couldn't kill him. Someone powerful as the Emperor should be equal to Chaos Gods themselves. And I think he would recognize him ( after all he wouldn't change his aperance ).


It was a joke.




Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 16:03:18


Post by: purplefood


Beastmaster wrote:Captain Sicarius

maybe he gets flattened by a tank that got flipped
I only want this to happen because Sicarius is overall just a dick

I'm surprised that only 3 people in this thread want Sicarius to die...


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 16:05:59


Post by: Hoboharry


The Emperor.
As heretical as that may sound, he's essentially the reason the Imperium is falling apart.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 16:08:52


Post by: purplefood


Hoboharry wrote:The Emperor.
As heretical as that may sound, he's essentially the reason the Imperium is falling apart.

He's the only reason it's still together...
The reason it's falling apart is because of quite a few different reasons.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 16:10:50


Post by: Hoboharry


purplefood wrote:
Hoboharry wrote:The Emperor.
As heretical as that may sound, he's essentially the reason the Imperium is falling apart.

He's the only reason it's still together...
The reason it's falling apart is because of quite a few different reasons.

He is not only the reason the Imperium came to be, but he is also the reason it is falling apart.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 16:15:47


Post by: Alphacerberus


i would have to say calgar for the most hilarious death of trying to scratch his face with a powerfist and it exploding xD


but the most annoying character i want to die is probably leman russ for being a general **** with the whole prospero thing and death by being put in a thunderhawk without leaving a crack in the window


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 16:17:05


Post by: purplefood


Hoboharry wrote:
purplefood wrote:
Hoboharry wrote:The Emperor.
As heretical as that may sound, he's essentially the reason the Imperium is falling apart.

He's the only reason it's still together...
The reason it's falling apart is because of quite a few different reasons.

He is not only the reason the Imperium came to be, but he is also the reason it is falling apart.

No, he's the reason it has held together for so long. He can't be blamed for his followers' actions since he never wanted to be worshipped in the first place.
Without the Emperor all imperial space travel shuts down and the Imperium is slowly ripped apart bit by bit.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 16:24:36


Post by: Uhlan


Kill off the Emperor circa 8000 BCE. Then we can end all the IoM and Space Marine hate before it even begins.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 17:05:03


Post by: Brother Coa


Hoboharry wrote:
purplefood wrote:
Hoboharry wrote:The Emperor.
As heretical as that may sound, he's essentially the reason the Imperium is falling apart.

He's the only reason it's still together...
The reason it's falling apart is because of quite a few different reasons.

He is not only the reason the Imperium came to be, but he is also the reason it is falling apart.


There is a sentence on 4chan that ideally explains the main reason why is Imperium falling apart:

"Unfortunately, the Emperor was seven kinds of fethed up by the fight and had to be attached to a life-support machine known as the Golden Throne, where he has remained for ten millennia as a super-psychic vegetable.
Cue grimdark.
During this time, humanity did everything in their power to feth up the Emperor's vision of the Imperium of Man. With the Emperor no longer in charge, the total IQ of the Imperium's leadership dropped by about 99%. The Imperium is now a bureaucratic militaristic state governed by force, religious fundamentalism and good old fashioned ignorance. At some point 'heresy' was reinvented by the Imperium as a blanket term to cover every single act a human being could possibly commit for good or for worse that any amoral Imperial Official subjectively deems as counter to the interests of the Imperium/whoever is in charge. Disagreeing with this treatment of heresy is not only heresy, but probably treason. Treason is heresy. Heresy is punishable by death."

I hope this clear up a bit


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 17:12:12


Post by: Tielc


The Emperor, and I don't care how he dies. I think it would lend to the story of why so many effing marine armies are fighting amongst each other on the table top. If there's no single diety unifying the Imperium together, each chapter, and each Imperial Guard plant for that matter, would be loosely maintained alliances and rivalries competing for resources. A non unified Imperium would open the doors for other Xenos races to move into Imperial space and become more a part of the fluff of the game as well, and possibly open the doors for more races to emerge. The shear size of the Imperium is what limits new factions and races from being introduced into the game.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 17:20:30


Post by: ToI


abaddon... during a bondage film gone wrong...


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 17:20:31


Post by: Ridealgh


I would kill Yarrick. He just doesnt die on the board so id rather he died in the fiction then got removed from the codex


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 17:39:02


Post by: Hoboharry


purplefood wrote:
Hoboharry wrote:
purplefood wrote:
Hoboharry wrote:The Emperor.
As heretical as that may sound, he's essentially the reason the Imperium is falling apart.

He's the only reason it's still together...
The reason it's falling apart is because of quite a few different reasons.

He is not only the reason the Imperium came to be, but he is also the reason it is falling apart.

No, he's the reason it has held together for so long. He can't be blamed for his followers' actions since he never wanted to be worshipped in the first place.
Without the Emperor all imperial space travel shuts down and the Imperium is slowly ripped apart bit by bit.

To sum it up: He's the reason mankind has gotten so far and why it has been successful.
But you should note that he betrayed the Chaos gods after they did him a favor, which is the reason the Imperium is in such a mess.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 17:51:21


Post by: Void__Dragon


The Emperor practically begged for the Horus Heresy to happen.

So, he's partly to blame for the Imperium's current state, but he's also the only reason the Imperium is not all kinds of dead at the moment, in all likelihood.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 18:02:25


Post by: Brother Coa


Void__Dragon wrote:The Emperor practically begged for the Horus Heresy to happen.


How so?


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 18:21:40


Post by: Void__Dragon


Brother Coa wrote:How so?


He made a lot of stupid and kind of jerkass choices.

For instance, his rebuking of Lorgar's spreading of the Imperial Cult. It wasn't the fact that he did that, it's the fact that he waited decades to do it (Lorgar never hid his spreading of the Imperial Cult, and had been doing it for years, Lorgar points this out to the Emperor as well) and did it in the most heavy-handed way he could, having the Ultramarines destroy a world that meant a great deal to Lorgar and his Legion, then mentally dominating the Legion and forcing them to bow before the Emperor, Malcador, and Guilliman.

His handling of Angron as well. When the Emperor landed on De'Shea and offered Angron a Legion, Angron actually rejected the Emperor's offer. He and his fellow gladiators, whom he considered brothers and sisters, had overthrown their slavers and he didn't want to abandon them when they were about to head into battle against a much larger force. Does the Emperor bring his own vast powers, both personal and military, to bear on the slavers, helping his son and making a good first impression? Hell naw dude, he teleports Angron to his ship against his will, forcing him to watch his brothers and sisters be slaughtered by their former captors. Angron never forgave him for that, and made it easy for Horus to drive him against the Emperor.

How about his handling of Magnus the Red? It wasn't just that he banned the use of the Librarians in the Legions, that part I can sorta get. But after Magnus used sorcery to warn the Emperor of Horus' betrayal, the Emperor says "Nah ah" and proceeds to sic the Space Wolves, who hate the Thousand Sons as well as books, both something Prospero has in abundance, on Prospero. Now, sources contradict on the nature of the Emperor's orders. Index Astartes says that Leman Russ convinced the Emperor that the Thousand Sons were the traitors, and the Emperor sent the Wolves there to destroy the Legion, but I've heard that the Emperor only ordered him to "arrest" Magnus the Red, with Horus changing the order to execution. The first one makes him a dick. The second one just makes him stupid, you don't put out a fire with gasoline, and Fulgrim even questions the Emperor's wisdom in sending the Wolves to deal with the Thousand Sons.

In a more general example, the Emperor could of avoided the Heresy entirely if he just told his sons anything, but no, he deliberately kept them in the dark.

But that's enough nerd-ranting and derailing of this thread on my part, if you want to know more on why I think the Emperor was partly to blame for the Heresy, you can PM me.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 19:09:49


Post by: DrownedRat117


Ghazgull. Just because a Gretchin wearing his armour and doing his job would make my day.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 19:24:36


Post by: squidhills


Sicarius should die doing something stupid. Falling down the stairs after tripping on a mislaid copy of the Codex Astartes.

After hearing of the incident, Calgar face-palms himself, without realizing that his power fist is still turned on. Sgt. Telion is then put in charge of the Ultramarines, because Sean Pertwee is too busy that week.

Abaddon, taking advantage of the confusion inherant in a change of leadership, leads an assault on Ultramar in an effort to wipe out the Space Marine-iest Space Marine chapter of them all. Unfortunately for him, he gets stopped at Cadia again, and gets mired down in another war of attrition without ever seeing the Ultima Segmentum. As a result, one of his followers (any one will do) decides he's had enough of this bullcrap and kills him, citing 13 of 13 failed Black Crusades as cause for the betrayal.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 19:37:27


Post by: Brother Coa


Void__Dragon wrote:
Brother Coa wrote:How so?

For instance, his rebuking of Lorgar's spreading of the Imperial Cult. It wasn't the fact that he did that, it's the fact that he waited decades to do it (Lorgar never hid his spreading of the Imperial Cult, and had been doing it for years, Lorgar points this out to the Emperor as well) and did it in the most heavy-handed way he could, having the Ultramarines destroy a world that meant a great deal to Lorgar and his Legion, then mentally dominating the Legion and forcing them to bow before the Emperor, Malcador, and Guilliman.

His handling of Angron as well. When the Emperor landed on De'Shea and offered Angron a Legion, Angron actually rejected the Emperor's offer. He and his fellow gladiators, whom he considered brothers and sisters, had overthrown their slavers and he didn't want to abandon them when they were about to head into battle against a much larger force. Does the Emperor bring his own vast powers, both personal and military, to bear on the slavers, helping his son and making a good first impression? Hell naw dude, he teleports Angron to his ship against his will, forcing him to watch his brothers and sisters be slaughtered by their former captors. Angron never forgave him for that, and made it easy for Horus to drive him against the Emperor.

How about his handling of Magnus the Red? It wasn't just that he banned the use of the Librarians in the Legions, that part I can sorta get. But after Magnus used sorcery to warn the Emperor of Horus' betrayal, the Emperor says "Nah ah" and proceeds to sic the Space Wolves, who hate the Thousand Sons as well as books, both something Prospero has in abundance, on Prospero. Now, sources contradict on the nature of the Emperor's orders. Index Astartes says that Leman Russ convinced the Emperor that the Thousand Sons were the traitors, and the Emperor sent the Wolves there to destroy the Legion, but I've heard that the Emperor only ordered him to "arrest" Magnus the Red, with Horus changing the order to execution. The first one makes him a dick. The second one just makes him stupid, you don't put out a fire with gasoline, and Fulgrim even questions the Emperor's wisdom in sending the Wolves to deal with the Thousand Sons.

In a more general example, the Emperor could of avoided the Heresy entirely if he just told his sons anything, but no, he deliberately kept them in the dark.


That all stand, but still - he cannot see into the future. We can all assume that if he knew what would be the consequences off all that - he would never done it in the first place.
So your statement of "The Emperor wanted heresy to happened" is wrong. Also:

Void__Dragon wrote:He made a lot of stupid and kind of jerkass choices.


Even that much powerful he is still Human - and Humans make mistakes.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 19:43:03


Post by: Shadowbrand


I'd kill Draigo. *Via Lighting claws to the face.*

Marry Eldrad.

Feth Lilith Hesperax.




Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 19:46:11


Post by: Void__Dragon


Brother Coa wrote:That all stand, but still - he cannot see into the future. We can all assume that if he knew what would be the consequences off all that - he would never done it in the first place.
So your statement of "The Emperor wanted heresy to happened" is wrong. Also:

Even that much powerful he is still Human - and Humans make mistakes.
See here's the thing: The Emperor did have foresight. Most people seem to be under the impression he did not, and while he likely did not have it to the same extent as a Farseer, he did have it, he used it to know that a technologically advanced people would go to Mars, and that's the reason he sealed the Void Dragon there.

I wasn't speaking literally, I don't think the Emperor literally wanted the Horus Heresy to happen.

The Emperor was human, yes, but for someone of such apparently colossal intellect to make such stupid and dickish mistakes in his attempt to run an Empire can't be glossed over. He's either a dick, a bit of an idiot, or both. Probably both, to an extent. He was a dick who didn't realise being a colossal dick and demanding mindless obedience from others without ever telling them "why" they should do what you say is not how you run an Empire. I personally believe Lion El'Jonson inherited that aspect from his father: His lack of real charisma and his inability to read others (Short of actually mindreading them).


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 19:46:51


Post by: CthuluIsSpy


Lorgar. For screwing everthing up

Death by snu snu GUO.

Also, why does everyone hate Cato?


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 19:49:51


Post by: KingOfTheSwords


Horus (i wouldn't have said him if he hadn't joined chaos). sanguinius curb-stomping his balls into the floor, then letting him bleed to death


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 19:55:46


Post by: TrollPie


Auri'va by a misplace EMP grenade turning his hoverchair off, causing him to fall to the floor and be trampled to a bloddy grey mush by millions of fanatical supporters. He is then swept of the pavement by a dustpan & brush, before his putrid remains are eaten by Kroot. Truly a fitting death.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 20:09:50


Post by: Coolyo294


CthuluIsSpy wrote:Lorgar. For screwing everthing up

Death by snu snu GUO.

Also, why does everyone hate Cato?
The man is an ass. Seriously, read the Ultramarines books to see why.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 20:15:23


Post by: purplefood


Coolyo294 wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:Lorgar. For screwing everthing up

Death by snu snu GUO.

Also, why does everyone hate Cato?
The man is an ass. Seriously, read the Ultramarines books to see why.

Chapter's Due and Assault on Black Reach books to be precise.
I'm not sure why but Cato seems to hate Sergeant Scipio...


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 20:56:22


Post by: KilroyKiljoy


acekevin8412 wrote:Well Draigo DID go through each daemon's realm and wreck everything. At the very least, he'll put up a fight.

KilroyKiljoy wrote:+2. Decay's not an emotion either, yet Nurgle. Irony God, I expect him to be........iron-y. Punny, I know, but seriously, Irony God should like metal. Then the Iron Warriors become cultist troops.


Wrong, the Lord of Irony would obviously be made of wood.


You are genius.

Belexar wrote:Hm... A fifth chaos god... That would be interestic. Now we must make a new thread to decide his name and design his appereance, realm, daemons and cult. Once that's done, we put it in 1d4chan.


This. We're doing it. Link will be added shortly.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/19 21:34:09


Post by: FinalAnswer


Abaddon by Fabius Bile during arm-reattachment surgery.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/20 00:37:02


Post by: Brotherjulian


I thought the question was going to be what race would you kill off <dark eldar>
I'll say then <insert dark eldar character> in a terrible sado-masochistic masturbation accident


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/20 00:40:45


Post by: Luke_Prowler


Draigo, by tripping on a nurgling and falling on his own sword.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/20 00:43:49


Post by: tilarium


Yarrick, raped by a gretchin in his sleep.... I really really hate Yarrick, I can't figure out why, there's just something about him that pisses me off.


Who would you kill and how? @ 2011/09/20 00:59:18


Post by: acekevin8412


I hate the Tau special characters and since Aun'Va has been done I'll do Shadowsun and Farsight. *Note, I don't hate Farsight that much, it's just that he's not good on the tabletop.

Shadowsun: After wrecking a Land Raider, the Terminator Squad inside charges out and crushes her, and because of her Stealth Field, no one notices her. When the field finally turns off, she gets eaten by Kroot.

Farsight: After finally ridding his enclave of the Ork threat, he takes a step out of his suit only for his sword, which was loosened after blocking a particularly powerful Klaw strike, falls off and impales him.