Hi Guys, its been wayyyy to long between releases for Victoria Miniatures, so expect quite a few in the coming weeks, starting with this:

Penal Guard Conversion Kit: Contains x 9 convict heads and torsos plus one officer head. Fully compatible with the Highland Guard. Available now!.
All the bits are also available separately, followed closely by some more releases to be announced soon.




Cheers and happy gaming,
V

Those look great, I really like the expressions they are making.

I see Riddic and Hannibal, but who's the third face?

Now these are conversion kits! Although I dont have any uses for penal legions

These are pretty nice I have to say ;D

Chowderhead wrote:I see Riddic and Hannibal, but who's the third face?

HA ha, well spotted!
The other seven are just assorted cons.

Those look great, I really like the expressions they are making.

Thanks for that comment, I really wanted to do some expressive faces, I see a lot of heads that look either totally bored or dead.
Cheers,
V

Wow, how fortuitous. I was just thinking about building a Penal Legion centered Imperial Guard army, but wasn't sure what to do for miniatures.

That's actually a rather nice set. Full of character, and fairly well sculpted.

I especially like the head with the glasses though, you may want to make a sprue of heads with just those. They're characterful enough I'd be interested in a regiment made up with just those.

Job's a good one.

Ah, I wish those were out while I was working on my hybrids! Great sculpts, exactly what I was looking for at the time, and I am sure there will be others wanting the same!

Magnificent work as always.

Very cool! I like those a lot.

oooooooooooh, these are so nice, I could have a ork prisoner unit.

Some of these remind me of prisoners from Alien3. That is what I always thought a future penal unit would be like.

Is it just me or does the middle one on the second row look like an evil picard! Nice work though, I'll send my mate the link for these, he loves Penal troops!

Jihadnik wrote:Is it just me or does the middle one on the second row look like an evil picard!

Looks more like Locke from Lost to me...


Those are some wonderful, expressive faces. Job well done.

Hey, it's the cast from Alien 3!

Well sculpted.

insaniak wrote:

Jihadnik wrote:Is it just me or does the middle one on the second row look like an evil picard!

Looks more like Locke from Lost to me...


Those are some wonderful, expressive faces. Job well done.

Oh yeah...I didn't see that until you mentioned it...I might have to buy some of these, the world needs more of John Locke!

It's a testament to the detail and quality when people don't just look at them and say "yep, that's a face" but when they start likening the detailed faces to TV Shows and Movies.

This is some of the best stuff I've seen. The disgruntled expressions on the faces make them all the more convict-looking. Amazing.

Wow! thanks for all the great feedback, it is really encouraging.

Jihadnik wrote:
Is it just me or does the middle one on the second row look like an evil picard!

Looks more like Locke from Lost to me...

Cool, actually that face was loosely based on Sean Connery, I was thinking he might make a re-appearance leading some Highland Guard

These are really nice. When will they be available at your webshop?

I'm getting a John Locke from "Lost" vibe from the guy in the very middle. Very nice for conversions!

Savis wrote:These are really nice. When will they be available at your webshop?

Thanks for the interest. There will be a few sets at MOAB on Saturday. I will officially put them up in the store as soon as I know for sure when the production casts will be ready. I would hope this will be some time next week. I also have to settle on a price.
Cheers,
V

I'll definitely be getting a few of these - rare to see faces with so much character!

These are epic win

Very nice indeed!

really nice stuff. shadowforge could learn a lot from these guys.

Really nice set, and just enough parts to make them look like Penal Troops! Awesome work.

Would be interested to see your take on Stormtroopers, although rumour has it that GW will be doing those anytime "soon".

Delephont wrote:Really nice set, and just enough parts to make them look like Penal Troops!

Thanks, actually the final set is planned to have the ten heads and 3x the torso sprue making 9x convict torsos and heads plus 1 officer head.
Or would people prefer less torsos?

vic wrote:

Delephont wrote:Really nice set, and just enough parts to make them look like Penal Troops!

Thanks, actually the final set is planned to have the ten heads and 3x the torso sprue making 9x convict torsos and heads plus 1 officer head.
Or would people prefer less torsos?

That sounds perfect to me, to represent a penal squad as it appears in the current IG codex...

Need these!
Do you sell in the UK Victoria?

Lord_Astaroth wrote:I'm getting a John Locke from "Lost" vibe from the guy in the very middle. Very nice for conversions!

I'm glad I'm not alone in seeing that! I'd love a set of figures for LOST but there are only a few figures I've found so far that are suitable. If you want a Hurley though, Hasslefree do that large Shaun of the Dead guy with a golf club. Greenstuff some hair, minimum conversion work - perfect.

bubber wrote:Need these!
Do you sell in the UK Victoria?

Cheers,
My miniatures are only available direct from my online store. I ship all over the world frequently. All at the same flat rate. I have not had any UK customers complain yet about being slogged for import duties.

Fantastic I'll definately have to pick some of these up

Very nice!

Though one of the heads looks well like Jean Luc Picard! (2nd row, middle)

More of a Commissar feel to that one!

Guess the boss is an homage to Steiner movies.
Can we make special wish lists for future celeb heads?

tarnish wrote:really nice stuff. shadowforge could learn a lot from these guys.

Actually "these guys" is just one lady

Great work, definitely useful for lots of conversions outside penals. Well done!

Very awesome and excellent detail! I'd buy just the heads if they were available separately from the torsos. Do they scale well with genetically engineered, power armored warrior monks?

Excellent work as always! If I move on to doing a penal legion squad, I'll definitely get this set. There's a lot of character in those bits, and dare I say they're as good as your kilted guardsman sets. Are they meant to mix with "sci fi troopers" or "space Rambos" if you don't mind my asking?

Brother SRM wrote: Are they meant to mix with "sci fi troopers" or "space Rambos" if you don't mind my asking?

Initially for "sci-fi troopers" but as those and "space Rambos" are basically interchangeable, they should work with both, but I will have a try when I get the Masters back

Do they scale well with genetically engineered, power armored warrior monks?

Said monks seem to have quite a variety of head sizes. My heads are about the same size as those from "sci-fi troopers". I'll try it when I get the masters back.

Can we make special wish lists for future celeb heads?

Please do! All wish lists welcome.

vic wrote:

bubber wrote:Need these!
Do you sell in the UK Victoria?

Cheers,
My miniatures are only available direct from my online store. I ship all over the world frequently. All at the same flat rate. I have not had any UK customers complain yet about being slogged for import duties.

Reference the above, two orders received from Victoria with no import charges. The second order arrived today (27 Sept) after being placed on 16 Sept so definitely no complaints from me.

Thats impressive shipping times, I've had stuff come from Birmingham take longer than that....go figure

Incredible sculpts! The sheer amount of detail is mind blowing, loving the collars on the body's!

Delephont wrote:Thats impressive shipping times, I've had stuff come from Birmingham take longer than that....go figure

Cheers, I usually ship the same day or day after order is placed.

They look great. Any chance of some painted sample pics?

vic wrote:

Delephont wrote:Really nice set, and just enough parts to make them look like Penal Troops!

Thanks, actually the final set is planned to have the ten heads and 3x the torso sprue making 9x convict torsos and heads plus 1 officer head.
Or would people prefer less torsos?

the torsos are quite characterfull. mabye make some more options? a few with bionic work would be interesting

The choice of only 3 torso variants is the only thing I dislike about these - not enough variety for a big unit. Definitely make the heads available without torsos, for those who either don't like the torsos or will be mixing in other torsos for variety.

Of course, if they sell like hotcakes then definitely consider doing some more torso variants

Hmm, another option would be to sell separate 'slave collars', so that customers can sand down the top of any other suitable torso and fit the collar then a head on top? Maybe too fiddly though...

Very nice work.

Well damn, I have wanted to place another order and now I have even more incentive to do so. Very, very nice work, Vic!

Any chance of doing some "sci-fi colonial trooper with pith helmets" conversions? The guy in my avatar would love some new buddies.

Great work. I might have to grab some of these down the line.

The choice of only 3 torso variants is the only thing I dislike about these - not enough variety for a big unit.

Might be a possibility in the future. But keep in mind the cadian 10 man plastic box only comes with one torso variant.


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DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Any chance of doing some "sci-fi colonial trooper with pith helmets" conversions? The guy in my avatar would love some new buddies.

Smack down from Victoria!
Lol.

These look excellent, and timely too as I need some more kilted legs!

Any chance of a torso with a set of bagpipes?

Any chance of a torso with a set of bagpipes?

Actually working on one now
Was thinking of making him a one piece full mini. Or would separate torso/legs/head be preferred?

Being able to swap the head and/or backpack would be great for me as I'm using Secret Weapon ones with my kilted leg guys. That said for a one off, I'd be happy converting a one piece figure if necessary.

vic wrote:

Any chance of a torso with a set of bagpipes?

Actually working on one now
Was thinking of making him a one piece full mini. Or would separate torso/legs/head be preferred?

I think a separate torso with inclusive arms would be lovely!

Brother SRM wrote:

vic wrote:

Any chance of a torso with a set of bagpipes?

Actually working on one now
Was thinking of making him a one piece full mini. Or would separate torso/legs/head be preferred?

I think a separate torso with inclusive arms would be lovely!

Yes, definitely!

Thanks for the input.
if I do a piper with a variable head option he won't be able to be actually playing the bagpipes, just holding them.
Is this a problem?

Would be interested to see your take on Stormtroopers, although rumour has it that GW will be doing those anytime "soon".

Bring it on!

I'm liking the penal bits, and I'd totally forgotten about your highland themed guard, although I wouldn't use the heads, packs.
I'm liking the idea of a squad mixed with bearded heads for a highland themed couple of squads as elites.


On a side note, I've tended to raise this with sculpters, but lack of decent attempts so far, means I am always looking for a sculpter who could pull it off.

Female Guard, I would throw much monies at you if you could figure it out, I am sure I am not the only one?

vic wrote:Thanks for the input.
if I do a piper with a variable head option he won't be able to be actually playing the bagpipes, just holding them.
Is this a problem?

Would be fine with me.

I find it funny that people are complaining about a lack of variety in the Penal Troop torsos. I mean, don't prisoners all wear the same jumpsuit at a prison? Even in the movie The Dirty Dozen, the archetype for this unit, they all wear regular army uniforms. It was really only GW's Last Chancers that provided this image of individual-looking Penal Troops. Even GW's original penal legionnaires had the same uniform.

The lack of torso variety isn't a problem on two of the torsos, it's the chain one which to me would look wrong/unnatural if re-used on many models, coz chain isn't going to dangle in _exactly_ the same way on multiple people. This is nothing against Vic's modelling or design skills, I have the same issue with many models - things like chain, trophies, straps, pouches etc which would in real life be arranged randomly. If you look at a photo of a group of real-world soldiers in the same uniforms, they'll each look a little different (unless on their parade ground best), with clothing sagging/creasing differently, buttons undone, extra equipment, etc etc.

I know many gamers couldn't care less about such things, but I'm someone who likes every member of a squad (and preferably a whole army too) to look like an individual.

loving these kits. definitely going to be picking up those penal legion boys but cant decide if I want those head or the chem heads you've got to go with them

Clang wrote:The lack of torso variety isn't a problem on two of the torsos, it's the chain one which to me would look wrong/unnatural if re-used on many models, coz chain isn't going to dangle in _exactly_ the same way on multiple people. This is nothing against Vic's modelling or design skills, I have the same issue with many models - things like chain, trophies, straps, pouches etc which would in real life be arranged randomly. If you look at a photo of a group of real-world soldiers in the same uniforms, they'll each look a little different (unless on their parade ground best), with clothing sagging/creasing differently, buttons undone, extra equipment, etc etc.

I know many gamers couldn't care less about such things, but I'm someone who likes every member of a squad (and preferably a whole army too) to look like an individual.

Yes, heaven forbid that you actually do your own conversion work, and add in your own details with some greenstuff, files, jewelry chain assorted scrap from other kitbashing, and make your own Penal Platoon on par with the Last Chancers, where every one is an individual with slightly unifying details to them.


Your looking at prime rib here, and asking for a hamburger. Those bits are ace. You get them, a batch of verdun stuff, and some GW bits, and make them your own...

I think I really like Cpt Blackies mob here more then anything I've seen from GW in quite sometime. Might need a couple of human bomb bits, but I can handle that little thing myself with my own greenstuff, and some of those Krak grenades from those Assult Marines.

How much would 20 or 30 cost me? Do you have a platoon deal?

Thanks for the feedback, got the masters back, castings look great.

How much would 20 or 30 cost me? Do you have a platoon deal?

What would you want in a platoon deal? 24 convicts plus one officer?
Let me know, all suggestions are considered.
Expect these to be available in a few days.
Cheers.

Will buy a bunch of those heads for my post-apoc army if they are available separately

Also love the convert-a-scot set, seriously thinking about a squad or two of these guys now. Kind of evil-empireish to not offer them in packs of 5/10 though, 3 in a pack = always some spare

Damn you GW for sticking it to my Inquistion army!!!!No more Storm troopers and i own ten squads.This was the kit i have been waiting on.My whole army theme was going to be Storm troopers in Ravens and Penal guard in Valkyries.But i do like the kits good work.

Hi, these are now in the store, thanks for the interest.
Cheers,
V

And couldn't resist putting this guy together; )

And another one quickly assembled

Cheers,
V

Wow. Those are really cool. I bet I can find a place for them and the Sotsmen in my traitor guard army.

I knew getting a paypal account was a bad idea.

DarkTraveler777 wrote:Any chance of doing some "sci-fi colonial trooper with pith helmets" conversions? The guy in my avatar would love some new buddies.

Funny. I read "sci-fi colonial troopers" and immediatly thought of these guys



Which I totally wouldn't mind getting a conversion kit for to go with my Horrorclix Xenos

Oh, Vic - you're a punk. You found a way to make Catachans look good!

Order placed, I'm thinking those collars look like they could be suitably altered to look explosive..off to make some rules for the old RT era human bomb squads.

Oh wow. Kudos to your painter as well. This is some of the best IG stuff I've seen in quite some time. Please continue.

EDIT: I just found out that the "your painter" is you. So yeah, many kudos to your paint work.

I really love these. This is a great conversion kit. I may have to buy a few of these for a friend of mine! Looks pretty good attached to the GW sprues and I really like the faces (and the fact that they're so many different ones to choose from.

Absolutionis wrote:Oh wow. Kudos to your painter as well. This is some of the best IG stuff I've seen in quite some time. Please continue.

EDIT: I just found out that the "your painter" is you. So yeah, many kudos to your paint work.

Are you kidding? Isn't she the same Victoria who made incredible peaces like the witch burning diorama?

Anung Un Rama wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:Oh wow. Kudos to your painter as well. This is some of the best IG stuff I've seen in quite some time. Please continue.

EDIT: I just found out that the "your painter" is you. So yeah, many kudos to your paint work.

Are you kidding? Isn't she the same Victoria who made incredible peaces like the witch burning diorama?

Yup.

http://www.victorialamb.com/wugs/demon%20winners%20index/painted%20miniatures%20index.html

Very cool. They look much better with the Catachan bits.

BrookM wrote:

Anung Un Rama wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:Oh wow. Kudos to your painter as well. This is some of the best IG stuff I've seen in quite some time. Please continue.

EDIT: I just found out that the "your painter" is you. So yeah, many kudos to your paint work.

Are you kidding? Isn't she the same Victoria who made incredible pieces like the witch burning diorama?

Yup.

http://www.victorialamb.com/wugs/demon%20winners%20index/painted%20miniatures%20index.html

Thanks, Brook. Oh man, I totally forgot about some of those. The ork squabble diorama is one of my favourite things ever

vic wrote:Thanks for the feedback, got the masters back, castings look great.

How much would 20 or 30 cost me? Do you have a platoon deal?

What would you want in a platoon deal? 24 convicts plus one officer?
Let me know, all suggestions are considered.
Expect these to be available in a few days.
Cheers.

24 is a good start. 24= 2 squads of ten, four more. Then an extra slot for the female commisar. I could go with that.

If anything, i could get 48 of those and have a full on platoon complete with heavy weapons section.

Just placed my order for the Penal kit and some kneeling kilt legs!

Just ordered a set of 10, for starters.

Cheers, thanks so much for the orders. (they will ship early next week). I really appreciate the interest.

Oh, Vic - you're a punk. You found a way to make Catachans look good!

Funny, I've never liked the Catachans, their arms just look way to big to me. This is actually the first time I have used any Catachan bits, and I kind of liked them, they seemed to fit this character.
.

Vic,

Any chance you might be interested in producing some alternative backpacks for our beloved "genetically engineered, power armored warrior monks"? I have been looking into starting a Celestial Lions chapter army and I haven't been able to find any 'lion-themed' alternatives out there. I could kitbash or mold them myself, but I am a noobert when it comes to sculpting and I am a big fan of your work.

Any chance you'll be doing any work in resin or plastic in the future, as well? Not a huge fan of metal personally, but for your work, I have definitely put aside my previous distaste!

Yeah, problem for me is that I've never really liked either the Catachan or the Cadian plastics - I've tried all sorts of things, but just can't find a way that looks good. But your torsos make the Catachan arms work. Great job!

Hey, have you ever thought about producing a set of arms with the sleeves rolled up? Or just with sleeves, no shoulderpads? One of my biggest issues with both the Cadians and Catachans are the arms: the Catachan arms are too big and steroidal, while the shoulderpads on the Cadian arms seem too bulky for me, too. I'd like to be able to make a light infantry regiment *cough* Gaunt's Ghosts *cough* that don't look over-armored and don't look like bodybuilders.

These are great bitz, I would love to get me some of those!

Death By Monkeys wrote:

Hey, have you ever thought about producing a set of arms with the sleeves rolled up? Or just with sleeves, no shoulderpads? One of my biggest issues with both the Cadians and Catachans are the arms: the Catachan arms are too big and steroidal, while the shoulderpads on the Cadian arms seem too bulky for me, too. I'd like to be able to make a light infantry regiment *cough* Gaunt's Ghosts *cough* that don't look over-armored and don't look like bodybuilders.

Actually, plain long sleeve, no shoulder pad or cuff arms, holding an original laser gun were started on the workbench yesterday

Perhaps I should just be making complete minis instead of bits. Though the thing I like about bits is the creative possibilities they encourage.

Any chance you'll be doing any work in resin or plastic in the future, as well?

I'd like to have the option but as I mentioned no one in Australia can cast resin. Id love to do plastic but the set up and tooling cost is massive and way beyond my small outfit at the moment.

vic wrote:Actually, plain long sleeve, no shoulder pad or cuff arms, holding an original laser gun were started on the workbench yesterday

Fantastic! I can't wait to see how they turn out.

vic wrote:Perhaps I should just be making complete minis instead of bits. Though the thing I like about bits is the creative possibilities they encourage.

I don't know what your sales numbers look like for complete minis, but if you keep doing options for IG, I can imagine that your sales volume would be higher with bits than with individual minis. I mean, the average player probably doesn't need more than one set of Spanish Inquisition minis ($35), but an Imperial Guard player doing a theme army needs a minimum of 30 troops for their army (2x 15-man Highland Guard packs @ $35 each) - usually more (which, if they're using Penal Guard, they'll definitely be using more).

vic wrote:Actually, plain long sleeve, no shoulder pad or cuff arms, holding an original laser gun were started on the workbench yesterday

Perhaps I should just be making complete minis instead of bits. Though the thing I like about bits is the creative possibilities they encourage.

Looking forward to the arms.

You have to decide for yourself if you prefer sculpting minis over just bits, but personally, I love the variety parts like these give me. I love to convert and kitbash, especially with IG.

vic wrote:

Actually, plain long sleeve, no shoulder pad or cuff arms, holding an original laser gun were started on the workbench yesterday

Sounds great! Any hint as to the look of the "original laser gun"?

Please don't sculpt the lasgun into the arm in the same way GW does. It is a major pain in the behind to remove it if you want to fit another gun. Separate gun(s) please

I think you should keep making conversion sets (too). Conversion pieces can fit in any army, and get people's creative juices flowing, while complete miniatures have a much more spesific role usually. Also, many people are not really comfortable with using entirely different ranges for 40k figures, even if they don't frequent any official GW tourneys. GW has a very specific look, and other figures will often stand out in a bad way unless they are really close in looks.

If you are looking for ideas: Alternative special weapons (especially melta/plasma) is probably a good way to make some money

need these in orange uniforms, these will fit perfectly in my arbite army thanks for them!

Quick question: There is no pattern sculpted into the Highland Guard's kilts, is there?

No:

Once again missed new posts Just found this and the heads look AMAZING ! Another success to add to your collection, I can understand the limitation to the chain torso which has been mentioned. I don't think it was meant as a criticism just the fact it is so distinctive in its style that the chain could look repetitive in a group of miniatures the rest of the torsos could easily just look more uniformed.

This is easily rectified by green stuff or as mentioned alternative chains added, myself I don't find this a problem but some people would not like the conversion work involved. I think once again you have managed to fill a hole in the market that has been overlooked for far to long, so big WELL DONE !!!!!!!! .

I have purchased several of your Highland Guard and have to say they were great fun and a pleasure to build and with great pose potential, But where is the HQ set I have been waiting for, the bagpipes, communications, standard ect still needed please can we see these soon make my Christmas please and is there any chance of the company mascot woof woof I did mention this if you need pics please PM I can send a few for reference.


I would say that the conversion sets would be the higher demand and the greater profit builder,this is because it is more easily to add these parts to peoples current collections and armies as they bring variations but still tie in to the on going theme plus it also gives the customer more options for conversions and variants.

If you made a complete stock miniature, myself would buy one (definitely) maybe one to convert but that would be it if it is separate pieces torso legs arms and heads I would buy several as there is a multi use for it and the conversion potential, therefore it gives the modeller more interest and multi uses therefore greater demand.


So let me finish by saying GREAT WORK !!!!!!!! once again nice new set YES I will buy some even though I have had no real interest in building a penal unit (until now) thanks more money to spend cant wait to see what comes next and really looking forward to the Highland Guard HQ set

I need a ton of the highlanders and penal troops for my Tyrant's legion. Must sell sisters to fund this.

But where is the HQ set I have been waiting for, the bagpipes, communications, standard ect still needed please can we see these soon make my Christmas please and is there any chance of the company mascot woof woof I did mention this if you need pics please PM I can send a few for reference.

Started a piper. Can't decide to do a sperate head or not, separate head means he can't be playing the pipes. Tempting to do him just as a normal single mini, but then what sort of hat? if any? Same applies to officer.

What would you want in a Highland Standard that was different from the plastic standards already available. I was thinking it might be good to have a flag without the etched detail so you can *shock* paint your own.

Lots more bits that will be useful for a certain other regiment known for their stand at Ork's Drift on the way, which will be handy for Highlanders too.

Balmoral heads on the way.

Cheers,
V

vic wrote:Lots more bits that will be useful for a certain other regiment known for their stand at Ork's Drift on the way, which will be handy for Highlanders too.

Oh vic, you just made my day! Please, take my money, all of my money!

A bagpiper model would be pretty sweet, but how would that work with the fact that your Highland Guard troops all wear gas masks?

vic wrote:I was thinking it might be good to have a flag without the etched detail so you can *shock* paint your own.

Is it practical to make both a plain version and a version with etched detail - or even better, multiple versions with different etched detail? Most of us aren't quite as talented as you and painting a freehand flag is just way too hard.

vic wrote:

But where is the HQ set I have been waiting for, the bagpipes, communications, standard ect still needed please can we see these soon make my Christmas please and is there any chance of the company mascot woof woof I did mention this if you need pics please PM I can send a few for reference.
Started a piper. Can't decide to do a sperate head or not, separate head means he can't be playing the pipes. Tempting to do him just as a normal single mini, but then what sort of hat? if any? Same applies to officer.

What would you want in a Highland Standard that was different from the plastic standards already available. I was thinking it might be good to have a flag without the etched detail so you can *shock* paint your own.

Lots more bits that will be useful for a certain other regiment known for their stand at Ork's Drift on the way, which will be handy for Highlanders too.

Balmoral heads on the way.

Cheers,
V

I would like to see the bagpipe playing so if the head has to be attached that would be fine for me and I think it would be good if he was wearing some kind of scottish head gear maybe like one of these :
or maybe these

As for the standard I was thinking some type of celtic/scottish design to the standard pole and tip design , maybe a little design around the edge of the flag but leave the centre for those who want to do their own design.

The ork drift stand of regiment will be a nice add on but means I will have to buy some more highland guard to use with them which I just know you don't want to take any more of money now do you……..

While we are wish listing
I wouldn't mind seeing a Regimental Champion included in a Highlander HQ, possibly wielding a claymore.
Just a thought in regards to the standard bearer, the poll could be made using a lochaber axe (ornate or functional) from which the banner flies.
As far as hat choices go I like the Balmoral or the Glengarry Bonnet. The Balmoral is sort of like the Scottish version of the beret. If given to all the members of the HQ can make it easier to tell them apart from the rest of the squads, or including a few hatted heads to spread throughout the regular units for variety.
With the bagpipe player it would be cool to have the bagpipe connect to his gas mask something similar to this.

Wow, bet you could make a pretty nifty looking Necromunda gang with these. A bunch of convicts that escape into the Underhive etc.
Nice work!

I just got my order in the mail today, and its looking great.
I want to buy about 30 more and I wonder if there will be any
large-package deals?

Neat, but a few more variants of the bodies would be nice. Who wants to see 50 penal legion with only 3 different bodies?

As noted earlier, standard Cadian bodies are nigh identical, its the leg, arm, head and weapon positions that make them different.

Once mixed in with bits from a couple of kits, probably some Catachan and officer box stuff as well, you'd not really notice.

Popsicle wrote:Neat, but a few more variants of the bodies would be nice. Who wants to see 50 penal legion with only 3 different bodies?

Lol, all my guardsmen have the same body!

Any chance we could see some more painted examples?

If you were in the mood to do some more bodies, how about some female ones?

vic wrote:Started a piper. Can't decide to do a sperate head or not, separate head means he can't be playing the pipes. Tempting to do him just as a normal single mini, but then what sort of hat? if any? Same applies to officer.

What would you want in a Highland Standard that was different from the plastic standards already available. I was thinking it might be good to have a flag without the etched detail so you can *shock* paint your own.

Lots more bits that will be useful for a certain other regiment known for their stand at Ork's Drift on the way, which will be handy for Highlanders too.

Balmoral heads on the way.

Cheers,
V

What about a bareheaded piper? then you could have him playing and either people could use him as is, or file his head down and put a helmet on/Greenstuff a hat on him?

Just planning purchases at the moment for ig bits...what are we likely to see for this famous regiment? Torsos, legs, heads, arms?

Simon

Got my set of penal unit to day the heads are dam fine really like those the character in them is spot on, the bodies are nicely sculpted but I think you would benefit from a couple of more generic ones with not so much detail (I know sounds strange but let me explain). Buy generic I mean the basic clothed detail of the tunic they are wearing (no rips tears or distinctive markings) no rope chains anything that would not be issued as standard to the unit, this way you could mix these easily into the group blending in without looking quite so distinctive. Plus this would allow easier conversion potential for the buyer if they wish to do so.

Great work. The facial expression are indeed the selling point. Can[t wait to see more...

Hi,
Thanks for all the great suggestions and pics. Here are some answers to some questions.

the bodies are nicely sculpted but I think you would benefit from a couple of more generic ones with not so much detail

Neat, but a few more variants of the bodies would be nice.

Making some more generic bodies would not be too difficult. I figured the average IG army would only have one ten man unit of Penals so 3 torsos would be enough, do you seriously want more?

...what are we likely to see for this famous regiment? Torsos, legs, heads, arms?

Next release: torso's and heads, coming soon arms, legs and weapons(see attached pic).
Still working on the piper, thanks for the suggestions.

Any chance we could see some more painted examples?

Any decent painters put there fancy having a go? I aim to create a gallery of inspirational and original, kit-bashed guard on my website. Once I have a few more bits out there, I'll be looking for some cool examples.

Here is a sneak peak of something in the works. Its a "Victorian" Laser gun. Final version has an underslung bayonet. I am making sets of arms holding these which will fit nicely with the current conversion bits and the next wave of releases ; ) Stay tuned.....

Here is a sneak peak of something in the works. Its a "Victorian" Laser gun. Final version has an underslung bayonet. I am making sets of arms holding these which will fit nicely with the current conversion bits and the next wave of releases ; ) Stay tuned.....

megatron1701 wrote:

Popsicle wrote:Neat, but a few more variants of the bodies would be nice. Who wants to see 50 penal legion with only 3 different bodies?

Lol, all my guardsmen have the same body!

Any chance we could see some more painted examples?

If you were in the mood to do some more bodies, how about some female ones?

All your Guardsmen are meant to have the same body. They're in regimented, matching uniform. Penal Legion, on the other hand, aren't.

Don't get me wrong, the kit is nice, I'm just saying it could use a couple more variants. Otherwise, I'd be more tempted to simply equip Empire Flagellants with Lasguns, and call it a day.

I gather the legs and weapons will be for the penal guard sets ? I was just wondering if you will be making torso's and arms for the Highland guard?

All compatible as the next release will be somewhat *cough*Praetorian*cough* flavoured

Oooh, that sling is lovely!

vic wrote:

I gather the legs and weapons will be for the penal guard sets ? I was just wondering if you will be making torso's and arms for the Highland guard?

All compatible as the next release will be somewhat *cough*Praetorian*cough* flavoured

That sounds *cough* sweet

How about this for the Highland mascot : Say hello to Tosh

Say hello to Tosh

Awwwww! love his flack jacket.

Safety first all ways Naaaaaa he hates the coat thats why he has that look on his face


His brother jack aint to chuffed either

Love the Lasgun, looks great and well themed! I'll hold out for your torsos and arms, rather than use the Cadian ones I think, and new legs too..wow Christmas has come early!

I think it would be nice to see something more along Mordian lines. Praetorians are okay but they have a really limited following among guard players. Praetorians were a niche army from the beginning (shown by their rather limited run).

On the other hand, Mordians not only have a more general audience, they can be used piecemeal in most guard armies. For instance, a CCS or PCS wearing slightly more formal uniforms is an excellent idea and has been seen in many IG collections. Praetorians outfits keep them out of this role.

Also, Mordians can represent any number of IG armies, not just Mordia (Terrax guard anyone?).

As a last point: Mordians are difficult to convert, therefore a kit would not only be preferred but popular.

All good points, however as I recall the only difference twixt the two was the heads?

adding to the rest of the encouragement- I really like these

Always happy for more Praetorian related items. Ditto for Mordians. Having had a look at your website, I've noticed the changes. Have you had a visit from the C & D fairy or are you playing on the safe side?

Slinky wrote:All good points, however as I recall the only difference twixt the two was the heads?

My point exactly and you don't see that many Mordian armies nocking around except on ebay………….

Actually, Praetorians look much different than mordians. Mordian's are wearing a distinct coat and dress pants while Praetorians wear a more tunic-style uniform.

I see alot of Cadian armies on Ebay too, does this mean no one is collecting them? It depends on where you are, I see Mordian armies all the time in the U.S.

Centurionpainting wrote:Actually, Praetorians look much different than mordians. Mordian's are wearing a distinct coat and dress pants while Praetorians wear a more tunic-style uniform.

Not sure where you're getting that idea. The Praetorian guard models were just Mordians with a head swap, originally made for a Games Day display board. There is absolutely no difference to the uniforms. Just different heads.

Centurionpainting wrote:Actually, Praetorians look much different than mordians. Mordian's are wearing a distinct coat and dress pants while Praetorians wear a more tunic-style uniform.

I see alot of Cadian armies on Ebay too, does this mean no one is collecting them? It depends on where you are, I see Mordian armies all the time in the U.S.

Cadian armies are bought in larger amounts so no wonder that there is loads nocking around on ebay I would say in greater quantities than Mordian ever bought, my point though was your quote about praetorians I have seen quite a few armies of these (more than mordian) over here and as they were available for less time than Mordians I would say that there was a higher demand for them.

There are a lot of similarities between both models as I can tell looking in the 2000 to 2003 imperial guard collectors guide but the only real difference being the head I am afraid the actual legs arms and torso's look pretty much identical………..

vic wrote:
Here is a sneak peak of something in the works. Its a "Victorian" Laser gun. Final version has an underslung bayonet. I am making sets of arms holding these which will fit nicely with the current conversion bits and the next wave of releases ; ) Stay tuned.....

Pretty much exactly what I was hoping for. Looking forward to seeing the arms.

vic - is there anything you touch that doesn't turn out incredible!
no suggestions, just a big thanks for what you're doing!

I know this is probably asking a lot Vic but I don't suppose you would consider doing some 40k style napoleonic miniatures, bear skin heads las muskets that kind of thing. I have considered converting some stuff myself but to be honest 1 I am to lazy 2 (the real reason) I don't have that much talent so with a big plea maybe just maybe it is something you would consider doing in the future……….. Your half way there and we could use the Highland guard sets with them increasing sales again

Yeah, that lasgun is awesome. Vaguely reminiscent of the RT-era lasgun, but I'm not sure why... it's certainly chunkier and more like an actual gun.

insaniak wrote:Yeah, that lasgun is awesome. Vaguely reminiscent of the RT-era lasgun, but I'm not sure why... it's certainly chunkier and more like an actual gun.

Reminds me of the DKoK's version

Love the lasgun! Could be some problems getting the guardsmen to hold it however, unless I chopped off the trigger that is.

Commander Cain wrote:Love the lasgun! Could be some problems getting the guardsmen to hold it however, unless I chopped off the trigger that is.

I think the plan is to sculpt arms holding the gun.

Hi, Thanks for all the great comments. Yes I do plan to do something Mordian flavoured.
I the meantime. I have started a poll on the Vic minis Facebook page.
Regarding the new leg sets I am working on; Do people prefer these with or with out the base tabs?
Visit the page and vote here:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Victoria-Miniatures/162170277152776?sk=wall
And why not click the "like' button while your'e there
Cheers,
V

Hi Vic as for tabs I would keep them as it gives people the option of having them (can be removed if not ) I would answered your poll but I am not on Facebook (shocker I know) but hey, mind you glad I checked it out those squid alien heads are marvellous.

I was thinking of building a boarding crew diorama and wanted some other races present and you have filled that gap now how long to I can get my hands on some of these and will you be expanding on this range I hope so . Don't suppose any chance of expanding this range with bodies arms and legs ?

Forbino wrote:I need a ton of the highlanders and penal troops for my Tyrant's legion. Must sell sisters to fund this.

That might upset your parents. And the police.

vic wrote: Yes I do plan to do something Mordian flavoured.

Outstanding.

By the way, I think your work is detailed and very high quality. We are lucky to have a fellow wargamer making these products for us, keep it up!

Necroagogo wrote:

Forbino wrote:I need a ton of the highlanders and penal troops for my Tyrant's legion. Must sell sisters to fund this.

That might upset your parents. And the police.

Thanks for all the great feedback and suggestions,
I've just added a preview pic to the Victoria Miniatures Facebook page. These are some new bits that are in next week's release. I've assembled and painted them to represent one of my favourite Guard regiments. I'll post a notice when they are in the store (Monday, fingers crossed).
Releases for next week are:
Pith Helmet Heads
Balmoral Cap Heads
Brodie Helmet Heads
Squid Heads
Victorian Torsos
Rough Rider Legs
Rough Rider Arms

Victorian Laser Rifles, arms and Victorian legs to follow soon.

But I already have a guard army - how dare you make me want to start another?

Looking very nice indeed - can't wait to see more

Squid heads?

If that's what the Victorian torso look like then I could definitely see MaxMini's ANZAC heads on those torsos looking solid. Not to mention being able to have some fantastic Rough Riders to match!

Death By Monkeys wrote:Squid heads?

yes, Squid Heads.

Death By Monkeys wrote:If that's what the Victorian torso look like then I could definitely see MaxMini's ANZAC heads on those torsos looking solid. Not to mention being able to have some fantastic Rough Riders to match!

Cheers, but not as solid looking as the ANZAC heads I'm sculpting at the moment

vic wrote:

Death By Monkeys wrote:If that's what the Victorian torso look like then I could definitely see MaxMini's ANZAC heads on those torsos looking solid. Not to mention being able to have some fantastic Rough Riders to match!

Cheers, but not as solid looking as the ANZAC heads I'm sculpting at the moment

Fan-tastic. I'd been hoping you'd do that!

(I'll admit I that was trying to bait you on that one to see what might come of it - I think I've mentioned it before, but your old ANZAC-style Rough Rider conversion is a longtime favorite of mine. I was extremely pleased to see his dynamite-tipped lance on the Victorian Rough Rider shown above!)

+grins+ Now we just need some short-sleeve 'normal-people' arms (You know, the sort of arms that would be on your average person, not the burly bodybuilder on steroids arms of the catachans)

I'm already doing the happy dance for that lasrifle and arms

Wow...
Goddamnit, stop giving me ideas for new armies! Good lord those would be awesome for SO MUCH!... mmm Atlanteans....

Wowwww Vic slow down I don't have he cash flow for so many choices in one go, why is it every time I decide to sort out my finances this happens and throws it all out of the window

If you need ideas for stuff to make: Separate gaskmask/rebreather for guardsmen would be all kinds of awesome. Means you can use non-gasmasked heads and figures in "hostile environment" armies

I am so excited by these latest releases! I will be placing an order for the pith helmet heads and Victorian torsos, but I may want to wait until the Victorian arms and legs are available too. Any idea when those two other kits will make it into the webstore?


By the way, I just finished building the new penal legion kit and it was a blast to put together. I am sure these Victorian troopers will be equally fun!

Loving the squid heads! Some cool looking rough riders are always in demand. Keep up the great work!

I too love the squid heads, they'd be useful for a lot of different armies.

The squid heads and penal torsos might make for some cool renegade Guardsmen.

Those look great! I can not wait for some Mordian heads. There is a huge market for them waiting and waiting and waiting. Figure you sell 60-120 heads EASY to each person (such as myself) dying to get their hands on them.

New laserguns and arms + some mordian heads (+ new legs and torsos) = Heaven.

Seriously you can sculpt 5 heads max and everyone would be satisfied. We just need 2 yelling variants, angry face, normal face, and a 5th. I can't be the only one who desperately wants some mordian heads.

Just a quick thought to the issue of the "distinct" penal bodies. What if you simply (I use that word loosely) were to make the same torso, but sculpt the collar with only a single first attaching ring in several places? This would allow gamers to attach chain of their own, placing it uniquely and giving the individual look without too much re-sculpting? You could possibly even make the collar itself a separate piece so that during assembly it could be turned to place the chain ring anywhere the customer wanted, making "several" different bodies out of just the two common pieces?

Love all your work, you are very talented. And I also put in a vote for female guard!

OH! Also had a thought regarding the bagpipes issue. Many minis come in pieces, and really, isn't that all that the pipes and head would be? I mean, I can't see that two arms holding the pipes would provide that much freedom in placement, so wouldn't the mouthpiece pretty much always be in the same spot? You could assemble the mini and then sculpt several heads from there to achieve variety heads for the piper that match up?

I am NOT a sculptor so I have little idea how much of a pain that would be and I am certainly not trying to tell you how to do what you clearly already do so well! Was just a thought.

Anyway, keep up the incredible work! We all appreciate it!

OMG first penal legions that I absolutely need for Da Big Red Wun then that Pratorine Roughriders - some very cool stuff.

Thanks for all the great feedback. The new stuff is now in the shop.
I've started a new thread Here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/410982.page#3574942

Those look fantastic!!

Any plans to introduce the Praetorian torsos without straps with the Mordian heads?

So, new thread. Putting this one to bed to avoid duplication.