What game have you given multiple second chances to like? You try it over and over again, but you just... HATE IT.
The thing that bugs me is that it gets SO many great reviews and you give it a fair chance, but it just pisses you off.

I have tried and tried and TRIED to play Dragon Age Origins. The story seems good, the characters are fun to interact with, seems like a solid RPG. HOWEVER!! Why in the hell do I have to hold my party members' hands?! I shouldn't have to spend 30 minutes in the menu screen tirelessly trying to make my team mates less stupid!

Look I may not be the best strategist, but as an ex-infantryman I know how to set up choke points, ambushes, effectively using supporting and assaulting elements.
For example, I have my mage-lady set up on a hill to provide supporting fire while me and the templar guy charge the enemy. I keep my attacks focused to prevent my team from getting thinned out and becoming soft targets... but none of this matters when my freakin mage just sits there with her thumb up her ass!! I told her to attack the enemy, but she's just staring off into space while I'm getting mauled!! OH! but the enemy mage has no issue shooting at me from 100 meters away while my mage has to be standing directly in front of someone to shoot at anything!!

The game over screens taunt me by saying "Be more tactical!" FETH YOU!! I tried flanking maneuvers but instead of going through the opening in the fence to attack the enemy from their flank, the donkey-cave runs BACK AROUND TO CHARGE DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE ENEMY. WHY?!!?!?!?

Why do I have to spend points gained from leveling up to buy tactic slots TO MAKE MY TEAM MATES LESS STUPID?! You know what!? Here's a fething tactic for you DON'T FETHING GET YOURSELF KILLED!!! I shouldn't have to look over your damn shoulder every second of combat to make sure you aren't going to die!!

WHY?!?!? WHY?!!! WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYY?!?!?! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
*mental breakdown*


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Having a healer in the group would make survival a lot easier. Try to get wynn early in the game or spec morrigan with some healing spells

I've tried like Bioshock, but it just never stuck with me.

I don't know why, but I never saw why it was considered that great. I wasn't a huge fan of the story, the combat, and the ADAM system. I've tried playing it two or three times, but it just never stuck with me.

I tried to like Dawn of War II as i very much enjoyed DOW 1.
but nope... way too small for my enjoyment.

Gears of War online. I can't get into it! Space Marine online is a little bland in terms of weapon choice and maps, but even that is more enjoyable for me.

I tried to like Oblivion but that game was just so boring for me.

As for your dislike of DA:O OP, let me tell you it took me so long to get into, but once I did I loved the game so much, I beat it three times.

I remember everyone raving about Metroid Prime when it was released on Gamecube. Most of the contemporary reviews said it was one of the best games ever but I could never get into it.

Actually, it might be heresy to say it, but I always felt the same about the Legend of Zelda on N64 - never floated my boat even though I tried to persist with it.

filbert wrote:I remember everyone raving about Metroid Prime when it was released on Gamecube. Most of the contemporary reviews said it was one of the best games ever but I could never get into it.

Actually, it might be heresy to say it, but I always felt the same about the Legend of Zelda on N64 - never floated my boat even though I tried to persist with it.

I felt the same about Prime until I played it on Wii. The Prime Trilogy on Wii made me fall in love with the series. The problem that prevented me from enjoying Prime on Gamecube was the control, but with Wii controls I fully appreciated what Retro Studios did. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than Team Ninja's abomination!!

I couldn't get into Legend of Zelda on the N64 either, 007 Goldeneye was just so much better than Zelda in my opinion.

Little Halonachos: I have to hit him with a little slingshot and then hit him with the sword?

LH's friend: Yeah, cool huh?

LH: That's dumb.

Yeah, Ocarina of Time is hailed as the BEST GAIM EVAR!!1 but I find that Twilight Princess is my favorite of the franchise.

I have tried and tried and tried to get into any of the Tekkan series. My mates all raved about it when it first appeared on PS1, and again on PS2 and yes, AGAIN on PS3.....but to no avail. None of the characters gripped my imagination in the same way as Soul Calibre's did, or any of the Street Fighter games....

Is it me? I also found the fighting mechanic in Tekkan to be flawed. I'm just not cut out for it it seems

sarpedons-right-hand wrote:I have tried and tried and tried to get into any of the Tekkan series. My mates all raved about it when it first appeared on PS1, and again on PS2 and yes, AGAIN on PS3.....but to no avail. None of the characters gripped my imagination in the same way as Soul Calibre's did, or any of the Street Fighter games....

Is it me? I also found the fighting mechanic in Tekkan to be flawed. I'm just not cut out for it it seems

The air juggling combos?


I also tried to get into Kingdom Hearts. HATED IT. Just... so... BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING. I got to the Alice in Wonderland world, then had to turn it off because it was putting me to sleep.

FUN FACT: The only game that LITERALLY PUT ME TO SLEEP was Final Fantasy X.

I agree with Twilight Princess being my favorite (thus far) of the Zelda series. I also LOVED Wind Waker

I also agree with Tekken...I've tried my hardest to play those games, but I never got sucked into it. Same with the Street Fighter games. I really enjoyed the Soul Caliber games, though...

I could not get into LoZ: Majora's Mask or Wind Waker; MM was just too complicated to accomodate my 7-year old attention span and Wind Waker... I just didn't get it. Perhaps it was the different graphics or the gameplay or elements of both, but I just couldn't play it for any length of time.

DA:O also gets a mention. After trying a Warrior and Rogue character, I just decided it was best to spec morri to heal, get ally to tank, get leli to... I dunno, she generally did whatever she felt like regardless of tactics, and i'd just sit at the back as a mage and spam fireballs. The only time that didn't work was the end boss, but then, that was the only real challenge at all, and once you got the hang of it, even that was a piece of piss.

Also tried to get into DoW2, but i'm not a fan of the squad-based game play and lack of base building; to me, it just... didn't appeal.

Civillisation ends this post, because no matter how much I (try to) play the games, I just cannot understand the hype behind them...

Pretty much any MMO

MvC2, too used to the nice casual MvC3

A TON of RTS's like men of war. The only ones that really appeal to me are the DoW/DoW2 and the C&C. I'm a bit on and off on Total War

ANY super micro manage game (dorf fortress, heart of iron, etc)

I tried to like Space Marine.
I tried to like Uncharted.


Thankfully the second Uncharted made all the badness of the first Uncharted go away. I'm hoping the second Space Marine can do the same.

Metroid Prime 3. It almost ruined the Prime series for me.

I REALLY....REALLY tried to like CoD:Black ops

Liking that game is so damn hard.....

except for zombies....I love killing zombies!

H.B.M.C. wrote:I tried to like Space Marine.
I tried to like Uncharted.


Thankfully the second Uncharted made all the badness of the first Uncharted go away. I'm hoping the second Space Marine can do the same.

Ehhh actually, from every post before SM was released, you seemed to be going into it with the specific intention to dislike it. It wasn't your cup of tea that's fine, but don't pretend you ever actually gave it a fair chance

I tried about as hard as possible to like FF7, to be honest.

MW2, DOW2, fallout new vegas, even stuff like the latest settlers etc I just found really hard to like.

Halo.
Why the heck is this so hyped, I played it for 2.5 hours, got tired of the constant hype and then played Dark forces.

Runescape
A constant annoyance, why the hell do people still think this game is good. The quest are just now variations on one theme, the skills are a grind and a half, and three quarters of the people on there want to hack you. The developers don't even take responsibility for security leaks.

God, there's so many.

Fallout 3. The Halo games. Deus Ex:HR. System Shock 2. Bioshock. Baldur's Gate 2. Doom 3. Oblivion. Quake 4. Red Faction: Guerrilla. Global Agenda. Trine. DoW 2. The list goes on to games I don't even remember. Most of those I played through to the end just because I wanted to make sure it didn't get awesome later. They didn't.

Burnout from forcing myself to play something I don't like is my number one reason for not finishing games anymore.

Gears Of War.

It just seemed like a over violent TC:R6V2 with a melee button and in the third person the entire game.

Oh yeah did I mention Metroid Other M... or MOM (...seriously, that's the acronym)

It's a Metroid game. I LOVE THE METROID FRANCHISE. Samus is awesome, a lot of mystery to her. A lot of things that could be explained or hinted at.

When you explain a character's back story and you want your character to remain interesting, don't explain everything. Just give us subtle hints or small bits of her history.

Team Ninja really dropped the fething ball on this one. And I don't know what the feth Nintendo was thinking giving the MEtroid game that was suppose to be STORY BASED to TEAM fething NINJA!!!!

Team Ninja is not known for their story telling, believe me.

I tried so hard to get through it, but I couldn't. Everything sucked. Music? GONE. Exploration? GONE. Immersive environments? GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!!!

It's like, did they just take everything in Metroid that makes it so great and just throw it out the fething window!? WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!?!!?!?

This game hurts me so much, that my avatar mocks this horrible pile of dog gak! FETH THIS GAME!! Just look at my avatar. There you go, that's Metroid Other M.

Bloodbowl for pc

The learning curve is a damn flat wall, and the AI WILL punish your every mistake. The artwork, the models, the setting, it's all great and appeals to me in so many different ways, but why did they make the game so damn hard??? Why???

Maybe I just need to play real people instead of AI.

DickBandit wrote:Oh yeah did I mention Metroid Other M... or MOM (...seriously, that's the acronym)

It's a Metroid game. I LOVE THE METROID FRANCHISE. Samus is awesome, a lot of mystery to her. A lot of things that could be explained or hinted at.

When you explain a character's back story and you want your character to remain interesting, don't explain everything. Just give us subtle hints or small bits of her history.

Team Ninja really dropped the fething ball on this one. And I don't know what the feth Nintendo was thinking giving the MEtroid game that was suppose to be STORY BASED to TEAM fething NINJA!!!!

Team Ninja is not known for their story telling, believe me.

I tried so hard to get through it, but I couldn't. Everything sucked. Music? GONE. Exploration? GONE. Immersive environments? GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!!!

It's like, did they just take everything in Metroid that makes it so great and just throw it out the fething window!? WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!?!!?!?

This game hurts me so much, that my avatar mocks this horrible pile of dog gak! FETH THIS GAME!! Just look at my avatar. There you go, that's Metroid Other M.

I agree with this completely. I have the Metroid Trilogy limited edition on Wii, and it's great. But the other M? Hell's fires hate no fury like mine for that game...

Necroshea wrote:Bloodbowl for pc

The learning curve is a damn flat wall, and the AI WILL punish your every mistake. The artwork, the models, the setting, it's all great and appeals to me in so many different ways, but why did they make the game so damn hard??? Why???

Maybe I just need to play real people instead of AI.

Oh yeah, I bought it when it first came out. I tried playing through the tournament, but got DECIMATED. That game is brutal.

DickBandit wrote:

Necroshea wrote:Bloodbowl for pc

The learning curve is a damn flat wall, and the AI WILL punish your every mistake. The artwork, the models, the setting, it's all great and appeals to me in so many different ways, but why did they make the game so damn hard??? Why???

Maybe I just need to play real people instead of AI.

Oh yeah, I bought it when it first came out. I tried playing through the tournament, but got DECIMATED. That game is brutal.

Sho nuff'. It's funny, when I play, 9 times out of 10 I'll just forfeit the match. I looked up people opinion on the game, and it seems that it's the same way online. If you start wrecking on someone even moderately, they'll quit the match. I guess I'm not the only one.

Chowderhead wrote:Gears Of War.

It just seemed like a over violent TC:R6V2 with a melee button and in the third person the entire game.

Same, do people solely like it for the chainsaw gun or something?

n0t_u wrote:

Chowderhead wrote:Gears Of War.

It just seemed like a over violent TC:R6V2 with a melee button and in the third person the entire game.

Same, do people solely like it for the chainsaw gun or something?

Decent story, good shooting mechanics, and yes, an assault rifle with a chainsaw on it. That's all I needed to get interested. Rifts did it first, true, but Gears was the first video game I ever saw to fully show one in action.

The second one was ok. More of the same, and with a decent game it's not a bad thing.

Haven't played the third. TBH the overuse of the word "brothers" is starting to sorta creep me out. Battle buddies, got it, but no reason to use the word brothers in ever advertisement.

Feth the chainsaw gun (Lancer), charging people screaming bloody murder and then stabbing them in the gut (retro lancer) and throwing them across the room is where it's at. Chainsaws are for people who can't do the heavy lifting! Of course, I'm not sure how long this game will last with me, probably end up trading it in for Dark Souls or something.

For games I tried hard to like:

Space Marine. I liked it when I started, but after a few days I found I didn't care for it at all. /shrug

Dwarf Fortress. I can the keys going; "but there's a steep learning curve". Yeah, I know, I've experienced the climb. I've spent the last few weeks trying and trying to get into after the reviews people give it, but I simply can't. The idea is fantastic, it's my dream game, a full kingdom simulator where you control almost everything, but there's three main barriers. The UI, the graphics, and the difficulty.
The UI is horrendous and often confusing, the game NEEDS some sort of Mouse support or better menus. Some people seem to get on easy enough with it, so it's probably just me being too used to easy UI's like Sins of a Solar Empire or Console shooters.
Whilst the graphics may be part of the 'charm', I hate them. Even with tilesets, they're just bad. Yes, I know there's only two/three people working on the game in their spare time, and I wouldn't blame them, but I'm far too used to fancy console graphics. The Z-levels don't help. They're probably the most irritating thing about the game. A 3-D team presented in 2-D just doesn't work in my opinion. Even Minecraft blocky graphics would be good with me.
The difficulty is the final barrier, but maybe it would be easier if the previous two were crossed.

EvE online. I love the idea of a space-based MMO, but the learning curve is closer to a vertical line.

Cerebrium wrote:EvE online. I love the idea of a space-based MMO, but the learning curve is closer to a vertical line.

The mistake you made is one all EVE players do.

Thinking there was a learning curve. No, they just put you up against a wall and shoot you.

Necroshea wrote:Bloodbowl for pc

The learning curve is a damn flat wall, and the AI WILL punish your every mistake. The artwork, the models, the setting, it's all great and appeals to me in so many different ways, but why did they make the game so damn hard??? Why???

Maybe I just need to play real people instead of AI.

Ha I got it this weekend. I managed to get it after 3 games. 2nd game I managed to draw and the 3rd I won. But yeah that game is fun, but christ it is tough. I thought I was just bad at the game because I was struggling so much to pull a win in one of the early tournaments. Guess I wasn't alone.

Still can't beat the Lizardmen forces though. Those Kroxigor are stronger than most other stuff and they field alot of them

Oblivion and Gears of War series.

Going to add Blood Bowl here... I just... I don't even know what the hell you're supposed to do... I did the tutorial (absolutely pointless thanks to the linearity of it and the fact it doesn't go past the second turn, so you try a real game and suddenly find yourself thrown in at the deep end when the AI isn't as crap as it was in the tutorial and when you find out that you don't know what the hell to do after the first turn) and still, nothing.

It's honestly like banging my skull against a brick wall, no matter how much I do it, the wall isn't going to break, and i'm just going to get pissed off and come away with a eadache.

Dead Rising 2. I just found the combat mechanics too strange.

Avatar 720 wrote:Going to add Blood Bowl here... I just... I don't even know what the hell you're supposed to do... I did the tutorial (absolutely pointless thanks to the linearity of it and the fact it doesn't go past the second turn, so you try a real game and suddenly find yourself thrown in at the deep end when the AI isn't as crap as it was in the tutorial and when you find out that you don't know what the hell to do after the first turn) and still, nothing.

It's honestly like banging my skull against a brick wall, no matter how much I do it, the wall isn't going to break, and i'm just going to get pissed off and come away with a eadache.

Hahaha, me too. I got suckered in by Steam's $8 deal this weekend and I want to hurl my monitor into the wall. This fething game is RELENTLESS!!!

The Dead Rising Games; Zombies. In a mall. Oh HELL Yes! But for some reason, it just didn't click with me.

Fighting games. I really, really, REALLY want to like them. I do. I was playing Mortal Kombat when I was three, and I love the series even now. But getting juggled for 75% of your health, verbally abused, and then being told that "Your a total noob!" for GRAAAAH! *Facedesk Facedesk Facedesk* I love the concept, but hate the players.

Assassin's Creed. I loved the first one, despite it's many problems, due to the unique feel of actually stalking your prey before you assassinated them. Since that was removed for the sequals, the series lost all interest for me.

BF3....................................
Nah seriously probably Fallout 3. I played it for a few hours, died fighting some scorpion, and never played it again (not to mention spending most the early playtime running from high level creatures).

Honourable mention goes to Littlebigplanet.

EDIT: Forgot about Risen. WTF is with that game? The combat consisted of blocking for 30 seconds, countering, maybe getting in 3 hits and blocking again. If you had even in a minor lapse in concetration alot of enemies could kill you in one go. It was a relentless slog of a game, it was reminiscent of the beginning of morrowind but at least in that you didnt have to wait long to get(steal) some decent kit and properly get going.

Man this makes me feel old.. but

Daikatana.

Though since then I've generally been pretty good at judging what I'll like or not.
Recent exceptions being Bayonetta and to a degree, Halo: Reach.

Marvel Vs Capcom 3

Just... feth. The online multiplayer pisses me off.

I take the time to learn all the moves and combos, and how to use them. But none of that matters because some donkey-cave is spamming Deadpool's handgun attack. It's ridiculous.


That and Dr. Claw's Dump N' Pump

Team fortress two, I don't hate it I just don't really enjoy it despite my many attempts to get into it.

I do love the style and the "meet the X" videos though.

Final Fantasy X. It's the only FF game I really played, and I wanted to like it, but I got to the first Blitzball part and just stopped caring.

Various MMOs, but especially Champions Online. I wanted so badly for Champions Online to be good, and I played the last part of the open beta quite a lot, but I really couldn't find a single redeeming quality to the game. It's F2P now, and it's still not worth it.

I wanted to like final fantasy x but most of the time i was to busy muting my tv to actually play the game. Next time don't get annoying voice actors for your fething main character >_>

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Not only was the gameplay mediocre, the story kind of "WTF"ish (though I guess a lot of JRPGs are like that), and the Sphere system very unintuitive and kind of confusing, but the voice acting was also abysmal.

Also forgot F3. I can't for the life of me get into it. If at any point I deviate from the main quest, I usually end up being chased across the Wasteland by something i've no hope of defeating, normally a Deathclaw.

Avatar 720 wrote:Also forgot F3. I can't for the life of me get into it. If at any point I deviate from the main quest, I usually end up being chased across the Wasteland by something i've no hope of defeating, normally a Deathclaw.

Stay away from the north east in Fallout 3, Old Olney especially. Imagine Deathclaws in a sewer, not really fun.

The Beta for BF3....I've never been so enraged at a video game in my life. I LOVE the realism to the weapons, but the "health" system just pisses me off. Plus, I hate playing Rush.

After about three hours of playtime, I deleted it.

Gears of War - not a fan of the cover system, I like the crazy 'ya! charge' fps shooters, using cover when it suits you, not all the time or you die.

Blood Bowl on the xbox - damn I tied, I really did, multiple tries, but the AI is so awful it just gets to annoying the hell out of you eventually. Its either too damn easy that its boring, or its breaking the rules of chance left right and centre.
Hell like my last game, where nine, count em, nine Humans dodged multiple times through my Dark Elf team in one turn. I sat there and pondered 'and I thought I was the Elf team.'

Plus on the xbox it has no online leagues so I don't even have the saving grace of not facing the AI in a league format, so yeah, total fail, they didn't even bother to release the second one on the xbox.

Space Marine - just didn't like the health system, and in general found it dull fast.

Resident Evil 4 - not sure what it was, never got into it, and found it too quick for my tastes. I love survival horror, but I prefer it to be more scare/story based than action, hence why my fave Resi game is Resi 2, and I prefer Silent Hill over the Resident Evil franchise.

Golden Eye - never got it, thought it looked awful and at the time I was playing Doom on the PS1 which I found much more fun.

Doom3 - no, no no, I didn't want a torchlight and a Half Life clone with Demons, just up the graphics engine and crank out mobs rushing me to eleven. Thats all I wanted, sadly I doubt I'll ever see it. Will watch out for Doom 4, but I suspect it will be more of the same.

City of Heroes - I wanted to like it, my friends rave about it all the time, but I just hate the UI, I hate the slow pace of combat, and I don't like the blockiness of the character models.
Diablo II - Though admittedly I feel like the game is just showing its age, I just can't get into D2. Almost every time I play, it becomes a game of "Find what single ability is broken and abuse it".
Super Meat Boy - Now, I actually enjoyed the first world of this game. It was difficult, it was challenging, but it wasn't frustratingly so. Then I hit the second world, and spent a full 10 minutes trying to get past the first maybe 5-10 seconds of the first level. It was at that point I said "y'know, this is over the top difficult, screw this game."
Terraria - My friends all hype this game, and I see so many positive reviews. But the teeny tiny size of the blocks just makes me want to switch back to the glorious blockiness of Minecraft.

Assassin's Creed (The original, not the later games) - Oddly enough, for the exact opposite reason that Slarg232 posted. I hated the stalking the prey parts of Assassin's Creed. I play most games for the deep story, and failing that, for the addictive gameplay. As neat as the story was, it was dry as heck until the finale (they basically revealed who your targets were in the first hour, then had 10 hours of methodically taking them out one by one, with no real escalating story between them). And the gameplay, while very well-executed, never actually changed throughout all nine assassination memories, consisting of "do X missions, save X citizens, and find X synchronize points".

I loved how the second game introduced a plot and story that kept unwinding throughout the game, how you could actually upgrade your equipment into better gear, and especially how Ezio had an actual interesting personality. I was thrown for an absolute loop when I played Brotherhood and found that Ezio was actually a wise, rational man after his experiences in Assassin's Creed II.

By the way, I wanna say that I love how much hate that Blood Bowl is getting in this thread, and yet I find the game laughably easy fighting against the AI. While they start outright loading the dice at some point (I charge my big nasty into an enemy, getting 3 dice rolled in my favor...and 3 "attacker down" results come up. ), throwing all strategy out the window and just bum-rushing your enemy will usually bring you success.

And at the OP: I do agree with you on Dragon Age: Origins. When the game first came out, all my friends were like "This is the greatest RPG I've ever played," and so I gave it a try. After a few fights, I was very meh about the game. After the first couple of times that I detected a trap, went to disarm it, and my teammates immediately charged across the tripwire to engage enemies on the other side, I gave up. A while after Dragon Age 2 came out, I gave it another go, playing on easy this time (where your teammates' complete lack of intelligence doesn't hinder you as much) and found the story to be quite epic in scale, with all kinds of interesting moral choices throughout the game.

I dont find it surprising that Dragon age is in this thread. Critically it was fairly called out on its atrocious bugs and shallow combat.

I am actually interested in the second and will probably get it next time i see it cheap. (I dont think there is such a gap between console and pc versions). It appears to be a tighter more focused experience with less bugs and a more ineresting story.

ME2. I just hate it. The game play was solid, but I never played Bioware games for game play. ME2 was a mass collection of side quests with something masquerading as a main quest. It annoyed the heck out of me.

DA2 had this even worst. There wasn't even an apparent storyline in the game. More like, a mass collection of sub plots.

Others: BLOPS, MW2, Fallout 3, and I second Bloodbowl. I liked it, but the game was unforgiving since the dice rolls weren't really random.

Half life series. I don't really hate it, just can't see why everyone raves about it.

Farcry 2... I have said this on many other (one) other forum(s) and so I shall say it again.

Spoilers cause ya'll are a bunch of babies when it comes to CAPS



Cost me 60 bucks new, brought it back and gamestop offered to by it for 17.

Locclo wrote:By the way, I wanna say that I love how much hate that Blood Bowl is getting in this thread, and yet I find the game laughably easy fighting against the AI. While they start outright loading the dice at some point (I charge my big nasty into an enemy, getting 3 dice rolled in my favor...and 3 "attacker down" results come up. ), throwing all strategy out the window and just bum-rushing your enemy will usually bring you success

I really don't think that ever works. I spent a good deal of time using an ogre team. What happened all the time? I got stomped in CC. Every.single.time.

If I go first, I attempt a blitz during my turn, that gets thrown in my face, turnover. Their turn, they just drop my players one by one or succeed at every dodge check. I'm not a pro at the game, but I've got positioning down and all that, but just rushing NEVER works. The only games I've won were in real time mode, and even then it felt waaaaaay too easy.

I can win, but it feels too much like a chore, for every Badly hurt or kill that makes you go yes. You watch another apothecary roll mean nothing as it either exactly the same roll, or if its nice it'll let a dead become a badly hurt. Where as nomally there is a fair chance the player will be back on the pitch when you use an apothecary in the board game.

Scoring isn't hard either, however if the PC wants to score there is little you can do to stop it. It makes insane rolls, and then when its you turn you often tunrover on your first 'safe' roll, where odds of success greatly outweigh the failiure.
Like using a Ogre with two or three dice and getting two/three both down/skull rolls.

All the normal tactics of the game, blocking, holding field postion mean pretty much nothing when a load of players dodge through your guys some with -2 Agility roll, and get a block in on your ball carrier, because you are one or two TD's up.

I've played about sixteen games since I got it, won around half of those, barely enjoyed any of them. The only time the game is fun is against other players, as the random generator seems more fluid. Sadly it seems their idea of AI difficulty meant 'fudging rolls' which in a game like Blood Bowl is a criminal way to design the AI.

I never got the hype behind the halo games. i started to play halo 3 and sorta enjoyed it but then forgot about it soon after. then halo-reach came out and i thought that might help me become intarested in halo agen. i sat down realy enthusiastic and stood up 3hrs later disapointed at the mediocre experience i had just paid £40 for and said this im goin to play battlefeild. everything halo has done has been done before and better. my frend was on the verge of suicide because his copy arived 3 days late. thay then convinced me to play its multiplayer, but i dont give a rats-arse about multi player unless a game can stand up on its campaine (which is why i no longer play call of duty) and reach most defanetly can not. so in other words bungie can go themselfs if thay think im paying for a halo game agen.

NOTE-mabie i did get a bit worked up but now at least i can say this without geting bombarded by weak excusises and acusations about being bad at games.

Halo 1 was good, and had a decent story. I also got behind the books, so the universe was fleshed out and stuff made somewhat more sense. Playing 3 off the bat, without playing 1 and 2 is kinda like jumping in 2/3rds (or technically 3/4s cos it references the books a lot too..) of the way into a film. ODST was also pretty good fun

Reach was kind of weak though, I've had it since release and still havent finished what feels like a lacklaster campaign..

Maybe the army is what's affecting our different results? I play Chaos Beastmen, whose sole strategy is to bum-rush the enemy, throwing all strategy out the window, and I win nearly every time. Even when the enemy does get stupidly lucky with dice rolls, I generally have times when I'll turn up some luck of my own and just knock down every enemy player in one round. I wanna say that it's hilarious playing against Goblins, because I've had games where, by the end of the game, I have injured/wounded all but 4 members of the team with no chance of getting back into the brawl.

I tried Lizardmen against Goblins.

I quit after two of my Saurus went down dead or badly hurt FROM GOBBOS! Not even the re-rolls helped.

the mighty ginge wrote:I never got the hype behind the halo games. i started to play halo 3 and sorta enjoyed it but then forgot about it soon after. then halo-reach came out and i thought that might help me become intarested in halo agen. i sat down realy enthusiastic and stood up 3hrs later disapointed at the mediocre experience i had just paid £40 for and said this im goin to play battlefeild. everything halo has done has been done before and better. my frend was on the verge of suicide because his copy arived 3 days late. thay then convinced me to play its multiplayer, but i dont give a rats-arse about multi player unless a game can stand up on its campaine (which is why i no longer play call of duty) and reach most defanetly can not. so in other words bungie can go themselfs if thay think im paying for a halo game agen.

NOTE-mabie i did get a bit worked up but now at least i can say this without geting bombarded by weak excusises and acusations about being bad at games.

Maybe, just maybe you should lay off of the vidja' games for awhile there.

Dead Space: Clunky controls and the main character taking up half the fecking screen really put me off it.

Just did Ogres vs Gobbos in BB, and I must say it cheered me up a little, nuking the entire Gobbo team bar two trolls and their troll star player. By the end of it, I think that was all they had left, although my gnoblars did spend the first few turns of the second half trying and failing to pick up the ball...

World of Warcraft... I mean I've played since launch and I don't enjoy it ... and I've quit it about 6 times lol.

I was a huge EQ1 junky, but all my buddies went to WoW when it came out so I went over the WoW... and truthfully I did enjoy vanilla. TBC wasn't terrible, WOTLK was too easy and then Cataclysm came out... I dunno... It's just lost a lot of its magic feeling of exploration. I remember in vanilla grouping up and exploring the elite ogre caves and stuff and just having some fun running around farming mobs. Then everything became streamlined and led you around by the collar telling you where to go and what quests to pick up to go into diff caves etc... wasnt so much exploring anymore than it was doing fed ex missions and kill quests.

I await a new mmo that I can have fun exploring, but most don't live up to the Hype (RIFT, Aion, etc).

Avatar 720 wrote:Just did Ogres vs Gobbos in BB, and I must say it cheered me up a little, nuking the entire Gobbo team bar two trolls and their troll star player. By the end of it, I think that was all they had left, although my gnoblars did spend the first few turns of the second half trying and failing to pick up the ball...

For me, the main problem is that I can't get past the second high elf mission in the story. Its' infuriating me, there's not really enough time for all they ask for (three successful passes, two foul plays, two touchdowns) when you don't even start with the ball, and the other team ALWAYS huddles aroundthe ball carrier making it take ages to get the ball away from them. And no matter what I do, they take forever to get a touch down, even if I literally try to LET them.

I'd have to put down games in the Virtua Fighter series. They just aren't my cup of tea. I like the character designs and some of the iterations looked gorgeous but I can't seem to really get into the controls.

I kinda liked Halo 3 then people started hacking and it got real pointless

Another game i wanted to like but couldn't was firewarrior, yeah i know its 40k but its about tau and tau can't face the might of adeptus astartes!


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Oh, and also all the CODs, they just were not for me.

Fighting games with the exception of the super smash bros. series.

djphranq wrote:I'd have to put down games in the Virtua Fighter series. They just aren't my cup of tea. I like the character designs and some of the iterations looked gorgeous but I can't seem to really get into the controls.

Virtua Fighter is brutal. It's one of those fighting games that you CAN NOT pick up and play. If you don't know what you're doing, you will be destroyed.

DornFist wrote:I kinda liked Halo 3 then people started hacking and it got real pointless

Another game i wanted to like but couldn't was firewarrior, yeah i know its 40k but its about tau and tau can't face the might of adeptus astartes!


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Oh, and also all the CODs, they just were not for me.

Hacking in Halo 3? There's a first for everything I guess.

iproxtaco wrote:Hacking in Halo 3? There's a first for everything I guess.

Hacking has been in Halo since Halo 2. The top rankings were dominated by the moders back in the day.

I think I'll second EVE. Realtime flights and learning was a bore, hopping accounts to dodge the subscriptions was a chore, and the first cruiser I get got blown up, aftger I sold everything to have the bugger. And the interface is too complex to even comprehend half of the things listed. I'll try it again when it goes free... maybe...

Tried Halo once on the Xbox. Got bored after 10 minutes... and this was in PC World of all places.

Mortal Kombat I think gets a small say too. I really love the characters and the gore and fatalities and combos... it's a *cursing* shame that I can't mash the buttons enough to execute the damn combos. Heck MK Armageddon on the Wii was a right b!tch. You try pulling combos off that requires a remote swing from left to right to left in a circular pattern

Hmmmm I suppose Winter Assault goes up here too. After trying to do the penultimate mission with 4 endings using the right races on NORMAL and dying profusely, with only winning as IG, yeah, not fun.

I wanted to like the Witcher. I tried to like the Witcher. I just don't like the Witcher. I have no idea why, as its got basically all of the elements I wanted in an RPG.

Dragon Age: Any of Them.

Really couldn't do it, try as I might. Same goes for the last few FF games after X.

iproxtaco wrote:

DornFist wrote:I kinda liked Halo 3 then people started hacking and it got real pointless

Another game i wanted to like but couldn't was firewarrior, yeah i know its 40k but its about tau and tau can't face the might of adeptus astartes!


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Oh, and also all the CODs, they just were not for me.

Hacking in Halo 3? There's a first for everything I guess.

Hacking? Yeah big time seemed like every game had at least one. If your shooting at a guy and he is not moving and is not dieing and then suddenly he is behind you, assassinating you, thats the hacking im talking about, not sure how they did it.

Medievil 2: Total War Crusades... I have it on the hardest difficulty and it seems that playing it has become a war of attrition. I decided on using Egypt for the campaign and after successfully wiping out nearly all the other factions, one still seems to be a pain in the butt.... the Prinicpality of Antichot. Who knew the french could fight eh? So now no matter how many waves of my army I throw at Jarusalem they seem to be slaughtered mercilessly before they even reach the walls.

I agree with Dragon Age. Love the story and all, but can't stand the game play itself. I'd rather watch someone else play it.

Mass Effect 1 was the same way. I couldn't stand the way they did equipment in that game, where you constantly find things which are just ever-so-slightly better. But again, great story.

The lost game i tried and tried but in the end.....Goodbye.

DornFist wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:

DornFist wrote:I kinda liked Halo 3 then people started hacking and it got real pointless

Another game i wanted to like but couldn't was firewarrior, yeah i know its 40k but its about tau and tau can't face the might of adeptus astartes!


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Oh, and also all the CODs, they just were not for me.

Hacking in Halo 3? There's a first for everything I guess.

Hacking? Yeah big time seemed like every game had at least one. If your shooting at a guy and he is not moving and is not dieing and then suddenly he is behind you, assassinating you, thats the hacking im talking about, not sure how they did it.

Lag. It's not necessarily a hacker, as I've never, ever seen one in the thousands of games I played of Halo 3.

iproxtaco wrote:Lag. It's not necessarily a hacker, as I've never, ever seen one in the thousands of games I played of Halo 3.

Console hacks aren't really like hacking on PC. In Halo it took the form of modding the hardware to ensure the hacker became host and then modified game files that gave the hacker advantage. Most often they modded weapons to pack a little more power and to move faster. They were actually quite inventive back in the days of Halo 2. I never played Halo 3 though so I have no idea how hacking went there. I doubt it stopped.

EDIT: The example in the quotes does sound like lag though.

As a side note Flying Warhogs were one of the funnier and more, adventurous hacks I saw. I saw my share let me tell you

LordofHats wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:Lag. It's not necessarily a hacker, as I've never, ever seen one in the thousands of games I played of Halo 3.

Console hacks aren't really like hacking on PC. In Halo it took the form of modding the hardware to ensure the hacker became host and then modified game files that gave the hacker advantage. Most often they modded weapons to pack a little more power and to move faster. They were actually quite inventive back in the days of Halo 2. I never played Halo 3 though so I have no idea how hacking went there. I doubt it stopped.

EDIT: The example in the quotes does sound like lag though.

As a side note Flying Warhogs were one of the funnier and more, adventurous hacks I saw. I saw my share let me tell you

I'm sure it existed, all Bungie can do is stop the hackers after they're noticed, but the hackers are always one step-ahead. That said, unlike CoD or some other multiplayer games, hacking wasn't anywhere near as prevalent to cause a downside to playing the game, likely due to better online monitoring. I never once encountered a hacker. It may have been the game-types, it may have been my NAT settings, but I really think the presence of hackers was almost zero in Halo 3. The vast majority of cases are usually down to lag. Some guy just seemingly teleporting around is lag, like the example.

I'm still trying, and failing, to get into the Total War series.

I SHOULD like it, it has everything I need to enjoy a game... and yet, I don't.

Pretty much any MMORPG I've played.

Each time, I think to myself that there has to be something in here that keeps people coming back, and by golly I'm going to find it!
Most of the time that stuff's once you hit max level. By then I've gotten bored of the meticulous grind about halfway there of either quests that say "Go here and give person X item Y," "Kill Q Monsters!" or "Collect Z Drops!"

iproxtaco wrote:

DornFist wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:

DornFist wrote:I kinda liked Halo 3 then people started hacking and it got real pointless

Another game i wanted to like but couldn't was firewarrior, yeah i know its 40k but its about tau and tau can't face the might of adeptus astartes!


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Oh, and also all the CODs, they just were not for me.

Hacking in Halo 3? There's a first for everything I guess.

Hacking? Yeah big time seemed like every game had at least one. If your shooting at a guy and he is not moving and is not dieing and then suddenly he is behind you, assassinating you, thats the hacking im talking about, not sure how they did it.

Lag. It's not necessarily a hacker, as I've never, ever seen one in the thousands of games I played of Halo 3.

Maybe some were but I knew this kid who said that you can make this switch that purposely lags connection so you can sneak on someone and kill them, he said he made one I don't know how.

Sounds like resetting your router. People did that a lot in gears of war.

Lewa2321 wrote:Pretty much any MMORPG I've played.

Each time, I think to myself that there has to be something in here that keeps people coming back, and by golly I'm going to find it!
Most of the time that stuff's once you hit max level. By then I've gotten bored of the meticulous grind about halfway there of either quests that say "Go here and give person X item Y," "Kill Q Monsters!" or "Collect Z Drops!"

Same here.Last MMO I tried was DC Universe. It was awesome for a month, then it got REALLY dull.

Yeah, I'm with you on MMORPGs.

I don't have the time or the inclination to grind for levels.

mega_bassist wrote:I've tried like Bioshock, but it just never stuck with me.

I don't know why, but I never saw why it was considered that great. I wasn't a huge fan of the story, the combat, and the ADAM system. I've tried playing it two or three times, but it just never stuck with me.

This, only redeeming qualities were the environment and Big Daddy's.
Fallout 3 is similar, the only redeeming feature is the ability to nuke stuff. Other than that its dull as dirt.

Any Final Fantasy game after FF9, they all pretty much sucked which was a major disappointment. This was especially true of FFXII which came closest to being a decent enjoyable experience for me out of that grouping of games.

Also Eve Online. I had fun for very brief periods of time but I found the game to be a tedious chore most of the time. I.E. - engaging in the supposedly fun content (Corporate/Alliance PvP, Wormhole experation, Complexing, etc.) was time consuming and involved too much micromanagement. It mostly involved sitting there watching a icons pulse, and when they stopped pulsing you clicked some stuff and did it again.

Space Marine, I have so many things against the game I'm not really sure where to start. It might have been a great game if it were released a few years back, but compared to other options in the same genre these days, its really not that exciting.

Assassins Creed, talk about an exercise in repetition, It took me I think 2 years to actually finish the game because I found it so damned boring. I haven't bothered with the sequels because of it.

As for Blood Bowl, I absolutely loved that game, am I the only one who knows how to actually win a game?

Mattlov wrote:I agree with Dragon Age. Love the story and all, but can't stand the game play itself. I'd rather watch someone else play it.

Mass Effect 1 was the same way. I couldn't stand the way they did equipment in that game, where you constantly find things which are just ever-so-slightly better. But again, great story.

I agree about ME1, but the game made up for it in many ways. Borderlands was worse IMO. I was trading out for new guns every few minutes. I swear I think you spend more time in that game exchanging weapons than firing them.

chaos0xomega wrote:

mega_bassist wrote:I've tried like Bioshock, but it just never stuck with me.

I don't know why, but I never saw why it was considered that great. I wasn't a huge fan of the story, the combat, and the ADAM system. I've tried playing it two or three times, but it just never stuck with me.

This, only redeeming qualities were the environment and Big Daddy's.
Fallout 3 is similar, the only redeeming feature is the ability to nuke stuff. Other than that its dull as dirt.

Any Final Fantasy game after FF9, they all pretty much sucked which was a major disappointment. This was especially true of FFXII which came closest to being a decent enjoyable experience for me out of that grouping of games.

Also Eve Online. I had fun for very brief periods of time but I found the game to be a tedious chore most of the time. I.E. - engaging in the supposedly fun content (Corporate/Alliance PvP, Wormhole experation, Complexing, etc.) was time consuming and involved too much micromanagement. It mostly involved sitting there watching a icons pulse, and when they stopped pulsing you clicked some stuff and did it again.

Space Marine, I have so many things against the game I'm not really sure where to start. It might have been a great game if it were released a few years back, but compared to other options in the same genre these days, its really not that exciting.

Assassins Creed, talk about an exercise in repetition, It took me I think 2 years to actually finish the game because I found it so damned boring. I haven't bothered with the sequels because of it.

As for Blood Bowl, I absolutely loved that game, am I the only one who knows how to actually win a game?

If you even vaguely enjoyed the story of Assassin's Creed, I'd recommend you give the sequels a try. The first one is horribly repetitive, but for the most part, it's fixed in II/Brotherhood. There's more of an actual storyline (detailing Ezio Auditore assassinating his way through a deep, unfolding conspiracy) and there's some actual variety in missions. The combat gets way better in Brotherhood as well.

And by the way, no, you're not alone in knowing how to win games. I play Chaos Beastmen in the game's campaign, and I don't think I've lost more than a small handful of games (when the AI cheating just gets too out of hand).

Locclo wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

mega_bassist wrote:I've tried like Bioshock, but it just never stuck with me.

I don't know why, but I never saw why it was considered that great. I wasn't a huge fan of the story, the combat, and the ADAM system. I've tried playing it two or three times, but it just never stuck with me.

This, only redeeming qualities were the environment and Big Daddy's.
Fallout 3 is similar, the only redeeming feature is the ability to nuke stuff. Other than that its dull as dirt.

Any Final Fantasy game after FF9, they all pretty much sucked which was a major disappointment. This was especially true of FFXII which came closest to being a decent enjoyable experience for me out of that grouping of games.

Also Eve Online. I had fun for very brief periods of time but I found the game to be a tedious chore most of the time. I.E. - engaging in the supposedly fun content (Corporate/Alliance PvP, Wormhole experation, Complexing, etc.) was time consuming and involved too much micromanagement. It mostly involved sitting there watching a icons pulse, and when they stopped pulsing you clicked some stuff and did it again.

Space Marine, I have so many things against the game I'm not really sure where to start. It might have been a great game if it were released a few years back, but compared to other options in the same genre these days, its really not that exciting.

Assassins Creed, talk about an exercise in repetition, It took me I think 2 years to actually finish the game because I found it so damned boring. I haven't bothered with the sequels because of it.

As for Blood Bowl, I absolutely loved that game, am I the only one who knows how to actually win a game?

If you even vaguely enjoyed the story of Assassin's Creed, I'd recommend you give the sequels a try. The first one is horribly repetitive, but for the most part, it's fixed in II/Brotherhood. There's more of an actual storyline (detailing Ezio Auditore assassinating his way through a deep, unfolding conspiracy) and there's some actual variety in missions. The combat gets way better in Brotherhood as well.

And by the way, no, you're not alone in knowing how to win games. I play Chaos Beastmen in the game's campaign, and I don't think I've lost more than a small handful of games (when the AI cheating just gets too out of hand).

I have to agree here. Assassin's Creed wasn't put together really well. There was a lot I hated about the game. The next two were very good. The game developers fixed everything I hated about the first one. You also get a recap of sorts of the first game.

chaos0xomega wrote:
As for Blood Bowl, I absolutely loved that game, am I the only one who knows how to actually win a game?

I think if you have been reading, those of us talking about disliking Blood Bowl have said we can win. The problem we have with the game is poor design mechanics, and damned horrible (as in not fun) AI to play against. Against another human player I am confident the game would be worth while, quite probably fun. Sadly as a xbox version owner, all I can do online is play single games that do not carry over spp, and no league format to speak of, which is kinda the point of playing Blood Bowl.

Touhou 10 -.-

Red Dead Redemption. Never has a game had such terrible lack of quest organization. Even fething morrowind had a journal.

The one thing I didn't like about Red Dead Redemption besides finding the random quests(there was also a journal in RDR Galactic, it was in the pause menu) were the cougars. I was chasing down a bounty one time and a cougar came out of nowhere and killed my horse while the fething bounty made his jolly way to Mexico. No, seriously, by the time I had caught up to the guy, after killing the cougar, he had ran all the way from Ratheskaller Fork to the damn Rio Grande.

halonachos wrote:The one thing I didn't like about Red Dead Redemption besides finding the random quests(there was also a journal in RDR Galactic, it was in the pause menu) were the cougars.

What do you mean? I never see any coug-

mega_bassist wrote:

halonachos wrote:The one thing I didn't like about Red Dead Redemption besides finding the random quests(there was also a journal in RDR Galactic, it was in the pause menu) were the cougars.

What do you mean? I never see any coug-

You couldn't see them until it was too late, and even then you couldn't hear them before they were already lunging at you or your horse. Telling you, Rockstar really wanted cougars to kill people in that game.

halonachos wrote:

mega_bassist wrote:

halonachos wrote:The one thing I didn't like about Red Dead Redemption besides finding the random quests(there was also a journal in RDR Galactic, it was in the pause menu) were the cougars.

What do you mean? I never see any coug-

You couldn't see them until it was too late, and even then you couldn't hear them before they were already lunging at you or your horse. Telling you, Rockstar really wanted cougars to kill people in that game.

I have an on-going joke with some friends: you never get to finish the sentence "Oh Gak, a cougar!!!" before it kills you haha. Damned sneaky ninjas

Bioshock. The game is just rubbish.

Mass Effect (though I did finish it). It just felt so... lame, look it's starwars, your a jedi, and all our aliens look stupid... wait, no it's not starwars...and you don't get a light sabre. (I also think starwars is stupid btw )

Starcraft, for some reason, I just can't play it for more then 15 minutes before becoming bored. Never even finished it.