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Post by: Asherian Command
This is not a joke. October 5th, 2011 is when he passed away. Feels very sad to see such a great person die because of cancer. (Cancer Sucks.)
Feels like a titan just died. He will be missed! 
http://gizmodo.com/5838847/steve-jobs-is-dead
Steve Jobs Is Dead
Steve Jobs is dead. The Apple chairman and former CEO who made personal computers, smartphones, tablets, and digital animation mass-market products passed away today. We're going to miss him. Deeply, and personally.
Steven P. Jobs passed away on October 5, 2011 after a long struggle with pancreatic cancer. He was just 56 years old. We mourn his passing, and wish his family the very best.
Let's address this up front: Gizmodo and Steve Jobs had, at best, a tumultuous relationship. Yet no matter how much he may have hated us, we admired him.
No, that's not quire right. We loved him.
He was the reason many of us got into this industry, or even care about technology at all. He made the computer personal, and the smartphone fun. Bill Gates may have put a computer on every office desk, but it was Steve Jobs who put one in every dorm room and bedroom and living room. And then, years later, he repeated the trick, putting one in every bag and every pocket, thanks to the iPad and iPhone. If you use a computer or smartphone today, it is either one he created, or an imitation of his genius.
He changed the way movies are made, the way music is sold, the way stories are told, the very way we interact with the world around us. He helped us work, and gave us new ways to play. He was a myth made man.
Prior to Steve Jobs, computers were alien to most of us. They were accessible to few people without an engineering degree. Not merely because of their complex operating procedures, but also because they were so cold and so inhuman. Jobs understood that they could be something more than that. That while computers would never be people, he could endow them with humanity. He could transform them into machines that not only anyone could use, but that everyday people would enjoy using thanks to the art of great design. He made them something that would be part of our lives. And he did that again and again.
His life story is familiar, but it deserves repeating. He was given up for adoption by his unmarried parents. He grew up in California, and was very much a product of that place and time. He took drugs. He got into phone hacking. Both were precursers to what would always be his interest: changing the status quo.
In 1976 he started Apple in a garage. Together with Steve Wozniak, he shipped the first true fully-built personal computer, the Apple I. He drove development of the Mac, understanding that it was the future of computers. The great thing that we would all see. He brought in a grown up to run the company. And that grown up forced him out of the company that he built and into the wilderness.
While he was gone, he started NeXT computer. The NeXT operating system would form the underpinnings of Apple's OS X, and iOS.
He also started the best movie studio of the past 30 years. Pixar's films were innovative, to be sure. It pushed the boundaries of CGI to such an extent that even today its early films still look great. But technology is only a tool. As with everything else he understood that great technology alone is not enough. It must be human to have an impact. Pixar movies tell stories. They make grown men cry. That was the impact of Steve Jobs.
He became a family man. He reunited with his biological mother, and his sister, the writer Mona Simpson. He married. He had children. He was, by all accounts, a great dad. It was his role as husband and father that helped drive his second act at Apple.
After his return to Apple, the company began shipping iconic product after iconic product. Products that defined a decade. The iMac, OS X, the iPod, iTunes (which was very good, before it was very bad), the iPhone, the iPad. All of these were deeply human products. They reflected his understanding of how technology was used not only in the workplace, but in the home. In his keynotes, product demos typically showed not executives, but families.
He made Apple into the most valuable company in the world.
He never met his biological father.
He accomplished so many things, in so many fields that it's tempting to compare Jobs to someone from the past. A Thomas Edison or a Ben Franklin or even a Leonardo Da Vinci. We tend to do that because it helps us understand. But it does him a disservice. He was unique. His own person. Our own person.
He was our emblematic genius. In 100 years, when historians talk about the emergence of the age of intelligent machines, it is Steve Jobs they will hold up as the great exemplar of our era.
They will remember his flaws, too. When Atari hired Jobs and Woz to write the code for the iconic Atari game Breakout, the pair earned a $5000 bonus for completing the work, largely done by Woz. But Jobs kept the bonus a secret, and only paid his partner $375. When his daughter Lisa was born in 1978, he spent two years denying he was her father. His denials forced her and her mother to support themselves on welfare. In the workplace he's often been described as temperamental and even petulant. He could be arrogant and unforgiving.
He was not a god. He was simply a man.
Yet for all his faults, he changed the world. He made it better.
He once famously asked of a critic "what have you done that's so great?" For Jobs, the answer to that question was very nearly unlimited.
Our world will be less interesting, less exciting, and less meaningful without him.
Goodbye, Mr. Jobs. We will miss you so very much.
It was just posted 10 minutes ago apparently...
So very sad .
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Post by: Shadowbrand
Just heard the news. R.I.P.
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Post by: Melissia
RIP Jobs. You provided Gates a worthy adversary.
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Post by: alarmingrick
Sad day. R.I.P.
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Post by: Perkustin
Yeah this is a shame. Cancer does indeed suck :(
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Post by: Kasrkai
Who?
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Post by: Cheesecat
Kasrkai wrote:Who?
Um, yeah who is this guy? 
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Post by: Asherian Command
Cheesecat wrote:Kasrkai wrote:Who?
Um, yeah who is this guy?
Are you guys serious or are you joking?
Steve jobs founded Apple.Cop. and one of the most brilliant men ever.
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Post by: WARORK93
Cheesecat wrote:Kasrkai wrote:Who?
Um, yeah who is this guy?
Not sure if trolling...
if not: FFS...the guy was one of the founders of Apple...y'know...Macs...iphones...ipads
Today is a sad day...
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Post by: Nerivant
His visage for the past few months was that of Death Himself.
Shame he's gone; but this shouldn't surprise anyone.
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Post by: Kasrkai
WARORK93 wrote:Cheesecat wrote:Kasrkai wrote:Who?
Um, yeah who is this guy?
Not sure if trolling...
if not: FFS...the guy was one of the founders of Apple...y'know...Macs...iphones...ipads
Today is a sad day...
Arch West.
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Post by: The_Savior
Must be a sad day for his friends and family.
And to all the Apple/Mac fans I'm sure they can feel the hurt as well.
But not being an Apple/Mac user myself, I can't say I feel the same.
Sad story nonetheless.
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Post by: Nerivant
The_Savior wrote:Yeah, I'm sure it's sad and to a lot of people it's a "big" deal...
But Steve Jobs wasn't the only person in world that died today.
I guess it's just the only person people seem to care about.
And seeing how I don't use Apple products nor Macs...
You get uppity about everyone not paying attention to every human being who died today, then state that a particular human's life was worthless.
I'll hold my tongue and keep my Dakka membership, and just report you.
But know that you are the worst kind of person.
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Post by: Asherian Command
The_Savior wrote:Yeah, I'm sure it's sad and to a lot of people it's a "big" deal...
But Steve Jobs wasn't the only person in world that died today.
I guess it's just the only person people seem to care about.
And seeing how I don't use Apple products nor Macs...
Maybe you shouldn't post pictures with that especially if people viewed the guy as such.
Mate That is a bad straw....
No mac hate guys.
If you want to talk about how much you hate apple please leave your comments of apple out of this discussion!
If you want to talk about it pm each other about it instead of insulting people who liked a good person. It is a bad thing to come on and start trolling people when some people viewed theg uy as an idol.
Please leave the thread if you are insulting people and macs.
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Post by: Karon
Macs are dumb, PC is best.
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Post by: Necroshea
I'm with savior on this one.
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Post by: The_Savior
It's not that I see it as "Why only Steve Jobs..."
It's just anyone would much rather pay homage to a celebrity or public figure.
I mean I know we can't all look up who died and keeps tabs.
But... I'm sure this isn't the biggest event that happened in our lives today.
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Post by: rubiksnoob
Nerivant wrote:The_Savior wrote:Yeah, I'm sure it's sad and to a lot of people it's a "big" deal...
But Steve Jobs wasn't the only person in world that died today.
I guess it's just the only person people seem to care about.
And seeing how I don't use Apple products nor Macs...
You get uppity about everyone not paying attention to every human being who died today, then state that a particular human's life was worthless.
I'll hold my tongue and keep my Dakka membership, and just report you.
But know that you are the worst kind of person.
Yeah, that was in poor taste, to put it nicely. It is unfortunate when any person dies, regardless of whether they get paid more attention than anyone else, and regardless of whether you used their products.
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
The_Savior wrote:Yeah, I'm sure it's sad and to a lot of people it's a "big" deal...
But Steve Jobs wasn't the only person in world that died today.
I guess it's just the only person people seem to care about.
And seeing how I don't use Apple products nor Macs...
Huge Jackwad, party of you. Seriously, if you can't say something nice...
It sucks to think of having everything Jobs had going for him but still only living to 56. Makes me want to go out and enjoy tomorrow.
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Post by: Asherian Command
The_Savior wrote:It's not that I see it as "Why only Steve Jobs..."
It's just anyone would much rather pay homage to a celebrity or public figure.
I mean I know we can't all look up who died and keeps tabs.
But... I'm sure this isn't the biggest event that happened in our lives today.
Mate, Steve jobs did alot of stuff. People cry for people that died in battle and they are honored.
You should instead of insulting people think of it more of a delicate situation. that was horrible taste and i did not laugh in anyway..
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Post by: The_Savior
I'm sorry for saying how I feel?
And yes I admit the picture is highly inappropriate.
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Post by: Asherian Command
The_Savior wrote:I'm sorry for saying how I feel?
And yes I admit the picture is highly inappropriate.
Then wouldn't it be best to remove the picture? my comment doesn't need to commented again... If anything the guy deserves a good burial and hopefully his company can beat up microsoft. (Helk my computer is a hybrid using apple and microsoft stuff. hahahaH)
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Post by: The_Savior
Yes sir, you are right.
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Post by: Nerivant
The_Savior wrote:I'm sorry for saying how I feel?
You're entitled to your opinion, of course.
You just stated in the wrong place, as offensively as possible.
How would you like it if someone walked in on your funeral, yelled, "hey, this guy was worthless, do you have any idea how many people died today," when there is a convention for atrocities being committed around the world just down the street?
If you want to make a comment about this, then make a thread for it. Don't do it here.
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Post by: Melchiour
Not always a fan of Apple or their ways, but it's very sad to see a visionary and groundbreaker such as him pass away.
Cancer sucks.
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Post by: The_Savior
Nerivant wrote:The_Savior wrote:I'm sorry for saying how I feel?
You're entitled to your opinion, of course.
You just stated in the wrong place, as offensively as possible.
How would you like it if someone walked in on your funeral, yelled, "hey, this guy was worthless, do you have any idea how many people died today," when there is a convention for atrocities being committed around the world just down the street?
If you want to make a comment about this, then make a thread for it. Don't do it here.
I'm sure I took care of it already.
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Post by: Asherian Command
Bill gates btw has released this.
Bill Gates
I’m truly saddened to learn of Steve Jobs’ death. Melinda and I extend our sincere condolences to his family and friends, and to everyone Steve has touched through his work.
Steve and I first met nearly 30 years ago, and have been colleagues, competitors and friends over the course of more than half our lives.
The world rarely sees someone who has had the profound impact Steve has had, the effects of which will be felt for many generations to come.
For those of us lucky enough to get to work with him, it’s been an insanely great honor. I will miss Steve immensely.
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Post by: Big Mek Dattrukk
Another person who actually cared about product quality passes on... at least he is not in pain anymore.
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Post by: helgrenze
You are free to feel how you will.
But you have to honor and respect what the guy accomplished. Because of his innovations, computer technology is lightyears from where he started.
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Post by: akira5665
Well said Mr Gates.
The world is a poorer place as of the 05/10/2011.
RIP Steve.
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Post by: daedalus
Yup, tragic. I wonder what AAPL.O will look like tomorrow.
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Post by: scarletsquig
Aww, this is sad news.
Apple absolutely promoted a lot of good things, odds are PCs would still be beige boxes, smartphones would still be awkward qwerty-keyboard business-only devices, tablets wouldn't exist (or would still be those horrible $2k+ hefty "microsoft rugged business bricks", and we'd still be playing CDs.
Whatever your opinion of the guy, there is no denying that the innovation he led absolutely changed the way computing was looked at, and turned it into something approachable to a lot of people rather than just to us nerds.
Pixar as well, don't forget Pixar. Every single movie that was made by them only exists because of Steve Jobs, along with potentially a lot of the CGI competitors. None of those would have happened without Toy Story, before that the animation industry thought that it would be a hugely expensive waste of time to make a film like that, especially as traditional animation was still going strong (think the Lion King).
RIP, Steve.
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Post by: Necros
Wow.. this really sucks. Sad to see him go. I just hope Apple will continue to make good stuff with him gone now.
My bro in law has a lot of cash tied in Apple stock, what sucks now is the stock is gonna plummet and prolly not come back for a long time.
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Post by: GalaxyGames
RIP to a great person who made a huge impact in this world.
Whether you are a mac user or not, the fact that you use technology -- you have been altered because of his work as competitors would follow suit.
I'm no mac user but he deserves great respect.
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Post by: Monster Rain
Wow, it didn't take long for some maladjusted trolls to show their asses in this thread, did it?
Anyway, RIP Mr. Jobs.
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Post by: chaos0xomega
The King is Dead, Long Live the King!
or something like that. My condolences to his friends and family, but otherwise I really could not care much less...
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Post by: Asherian Command
chaos0xomega wrote:The King is Dead, Long Live the King!
or something like that. My condolences to his friends and family, but otherwise I really could not care much less...
huh?
You care about the family or the guy? The family must of known about it for a long time.
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Post by: daedalus
Monster Rain wrote:Wow, it didn't take long for some maladjusted trolls to show their asses in this thread, did it?
Anyway, RIP Mr. Jobs.
Well, if Apple did nothing else, they polarized people who use electronic adding machines (computers) into two diametrically opposed groups. Realistically, their PC vs. Mac ads only helped fuel that flame. Honestly, I think they were better at selling an image than they were at actually revolutionizing user interfaces. I found the Zune interface superior to the iPod, and still do no matter how much anyone gives me gak over it. I also prefer Gnome to either Windows OR OSX, and I OWN a Mac.
I'm just saying: You center your entire advertising campaign consisting of "I think I'm cooler than you because I own a premium priced product that does the same damn thing the one you own does," and it's no major surprise that people react strongly to it, one way or another.
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R.I.P
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Post by: poipo32
He wasn't making anything anymore so its not really a sad day for gadget and computers fan, he was retired anyway. daedalus wrote:Monster Rain wrote:Wow, it didn't take long for some maladjusted trolls to show their asses in this thread, did it?
Anyway, RIP Mr. Jobs.
Well, if Apple did nothing else, they polarized people who use electronic adding machines (computers) into two diametrically opposed groups. Realistically, their PC vs. Mac ads only helped fuel that flame. Honestly, I think they were better at selling an image than they were at actually revolutionizing user interfaces. I found the Zune interface superior to the iPod, and still do no matter how much anyone gives me gak over it. I also prefer Gnome to either Windows OR OSX, and I OWN a Mac. I'm just saying: You center your entire advertising campaign consisting of "I think I'm cooler than you because I own a premium priced product that does the same damn thing the one you own does," and it's no major surprise that people react strongly to it, one way or another.
QFT
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Post by: Nerivant
poipo32 wrote:He wasn't making anything anymore so its not really a sad day for gadget and computers fan, he was retired anyway.
His vision was still driving the creation of some of the most widely known gadgets and computers on Earth.
Hopefully, it will continue to.
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Post by: halonachos
Steve Jobs was more of an owner for Pixar and not really involved in it, they had to drive out to where he lived to tell him how everything was going.
Now as to his reputation, speak no ill of the dead.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
It's a sad day.
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Post by: youbedead
Regardless of your opinion on mac v pc (im a pc myself) it is a sad day. It is the beginning of the end of the old guard. These were people who revolutionized the world and they way we live and we owe them all a great deal.
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Post by: SagesStone
Indeed, the whole PC vs Mac thing is entirely stupid simply continuing to exist in order to provide some people a moral high ground over others.
Not everything he did was great, but he did some great things. RIP Steve Jobs.
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Post by: Cheesecat
Asherian Command wrote:Cheesecat wrote:Kasrkai wrote:Who?
Um, yeah who is this guy?
Are you guys serious or are you joking?
Steve jobs founded Apple.Cop. and one of the most brilliant men ever.
Sweet, didn't even have to use Google.  Either way never really owned any apple products, but his death still deserves recognition.
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Post by: Manchu
youbedead wrote:These were people who revolutionized the world and they way we live and we owe them all a great deal.
I don't know what we owe men like Steve Jobs. I think we've paid a lot for what they gave (i.e., sold/peddled) so far, and will continue to do so. But the notion that we are seeing the closing of an era strikes me as true. It's like when Henry Ford died.
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Post by: Ouze
Monster Rain wrote:Wow, it didn't take long for some maladjusted trolls to show their asses in this thread, did it?
Anyway, RIP Mr. Jobs.
A little off topic, but I've always liked this expression in the context of how you used it. It's just so... dead-on.
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Post by: guyperson5
He did a great job (haha, get it?) On a more serious note, he did make a whole lot of awesome computer- thingies.
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Post by: Cheesecat
guyperson5 wrote:He did a great job (haha, get it?) On a more serious note, he did make a whole lot of awesome computer- thingies.
guyperson5 has filled my pun quota for the day, thank you. 
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Post by: Sc077y
Steve jobs, regardless of whether or not you like or hate apple, was an amazing visionary for technology.
While the iPod wasn't the first, it was the defining media playback device.
The iPhone wasn't the first touchscreen phone, and it wasn't the first smartphone, it was the phone that revolutionized the smart phone industry.
The iPad wasn't the first tablet, there were a few before it, but it CREATED a current technology race that threatens even microsoft for the continuation of desktop O/S.
But I do love the article because it does state the truth.
Jobs was human. A very gifted human, but human nonetheless. He screwed up like the rest of us. Both professionally and personally.
In the shadow of the day, we can all be judged only on what we did to make our lives, and those around us a little better. We should all be so lucky to leave a legacy like mr. Jobs did.
Farewell my distant mentor, my great teacher, and my role model.
(Written from my iPad, while surfing for a new MacBook, and checking the time on my iPhone, with both iPods connected to my home theatre.)
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Post by: DIDM
RIP Mr Jobs
that said, who else is buying Apple stock right now? It is common knowledge it will fall, how far is the bet everyone is making right now. I'd say at least a billion will be made off this loss.
as I say, RIP to the computer BOSS, but this is an economy, and death drives it
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Post by: jordanis
 to all the haters: if you dont have something decent and moral to say, dont say it, your not "cool" for stickin it to the man who was the leader of stickin it to the man in this era.
RIP Jobs, never liked your products, but i cant deny that you were a revolutionary and without you computers/technology might not be as advanced as they are today.
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Post by: DIDM
jordanis wrote: to all the haters: if you dont have something decent and moral to say, dont say it, your not "cool" for stickin it to the man who was the leader of stickin it to the man in this era.
RIP Jobs, never liked your products, but i cant deny that you were a revolutionary and without you computers/technology might not be as advanced as they are today.
IMHO Steve Jobs is the greatest man to ever live, he created recycling. He can take one thing and turn it into years of releases.
It is sad that he has passed, but he will always be remembered in 2 ways, one by his sheep, and one by PC users that will be sad for his passing, but basically be like; meh. He was a great business man, no doubt. He just got a bit greedy IMO. You don't have years worth of updates ready before you release something. He got rich off of his sheep buying everything he put out. I honestly run a 2001 Sony VAIO as my basic computer. With minor messing with it can be a great machine. For $700 I built a super computer. Apple charges for Hipster appeal, a case is defiantly worth less than what is inside.
You can not take away the job from Steve Jobs. To do so would be disrespectful to his life. He succeeded at making an OK product at an extravagant price. There are not many companies that can claim the same. He found a niche and convinced everyone and their brother they were in that niche. He made computing almost stupid, you could actually be small of mind and work one.
In the end I will remember him as a giant amongst mere tin soldiers. He held the world in his hand for a long while, may he Rest In Peace
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Post by: jordanis
DIDM wrote:jordanis wrote: to all the haters: if you dont have something decent and moral to say, dont say it, your not "cool" for stickin it to the man who was the leader of stickin it to the man in this era.
RIP Jobs, never liked your products, but i cant deny that you were a revolutionary and without you computers/technology might not be as advanced as they are today.
... He succeeded at making an OK product at an extravagant price. There are not many companies that can claim the same. He found a niche and convinced everyone and their brother they were in that niche.
i can name one other...and its the reason this website even exists...without it 99.99% of us on here would not talk to eachother...if you dont follow, im talking about Games Workshop, and i am a proud sheep (is that the right way to say that? it doesnt sound right...)
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Post by: DIDM
jordanis wrote:DIDM wrote:jordanis wrote: to all the haters: if you dont have something decent and moral to say, dont say it, your not "cool" for stickin it to the man who was the leader of stickin it to the man in this era.
RIP Jobs, never liked your products, but i cant deny that you were a revolutionary and without you computers/technology might not be as advanced as they are today.
... He succeeded at making an OK product at an extravagant price. There are not many companies that can claim the same. He found a niche and convinced everyone and their brother they were in that niche.
i can name one other...and its the reason this website even exists...without it 99.99% of us on here would not talk to eachother...if you dont follow, im talking about Games Workshop, and i am a proud sheep (is that the right way to say that? it doesnt sound right...)
yea, but there is quite a bit bigger market for "second hand" GW "items". I for one would not buy a computer off Ebay, no matter the seller.
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Post by: SagesStone
This instantly comes to mind as one of the main reasons.
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Post by: Phototoxin
The_Savior wrote:
Yeah, I'm sure it's sad and to a lot of people it's a "big" deal...
But Steve Jobs wasn't the only person in world that died today.
I guess it's just the only person people seem to care about.
And seeing how I don't use Apple products nor Macs...
I agree. People starving in africa, while corruption is being protested in wall street, people dying in wartorn countries and but a rich white man dies and the world stops?
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Post by: DIDM
Phototoxin wrote:The_Savior wrote:
Yeah, I'm sure it's sad and to a lot of people it's a "big" deal...
But Steve Jobs wasn't the only person in world that died today.
I guess it's just the only person people seem to care about.
And seeing how I don't use Apple products nor Macs...
I agree. People starving in africa, while corruption is being protested in wall street, people dying in wartorn countries and but a rich white man dies and the world stops?[/quote]
not quite, Gates is still kickin, so all is good
you know somewhere he is
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Post by: RatBot
Immediately upon hearing of his death, I whipped up a CSI Miami exploitable meme comic.
There's something horribly, horribly wrong with me, but I'll at least have the decency to wait a bit before posting it here.
Even though they're terribly overpriced in many cases, I actually like Apple products. I have a first generation video iPod, have had it for years, love it lots.
So long, Mr. Jobs. Love him or hate him, he was easily one of the most important people in the history of home electronics.
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Post by: JohnnoM
my condolences to his family, wonder whos in charge now?
Also @Saviour, dude your completely heartless. The only reason you said that is because you desperately need attention.
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Post by: SagesStone
Well since he was no longer the CEO of Apple he likely gave over control a while ago (Wiki says the current CEO is Tim Cook). Definitely not a thing to be left to the last minute in any case.
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Post by: ironhandstraken
isad
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Post by: Swordwind
Not much of a Mac fan, but I did like the iFamily. RIP Mr Jobs.
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Post by: Wolfstan
I think the world of tech will sorely miss him in the end. Whatever the difference between the two systems, Steve Jobs did revamp the industry big time. His visions set the trend for others. The iPod, iPhone, iPod have all caused rivals to up their game. Who will lead the way now? How many designers will be given the freedom in the same way as Apple designers were? Most CEO's aren't visionaries in the same Jobs was. He was in a position of being to be able to do what he wanted.
As much as I love the look & feel of Apple products and OS, I still have to say that I feel they are overpriced. I still can't believe people will pay that amount of money for a tablet that's not even a computer, and has a fraction of the processing power of a laptop that costs the same.
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Post by: SagesStone
Though you must admit that did seem to have a rather poor taste to it. Cold emotionless text and all.
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Post by: Frazzled
Melissia wrote:RIP Jobs. You provided Gates a worthy adversary.
You mean IBM. Automatically Appended Next Post: The_Savior wrote:Must be a sad day for his friends and family.
And to all the Apple/Mac fans I'm sure they can feel the hurt as well.
But not being an Apple/Mac user myself, I can't say I feel the same.
Sad story nonetheless.
Why on earth is it sad? Indeed he will be missed by his family, but sad?  no. He is free from pain and suffering now. Cancer is not a good way to go. I know.
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Post by: Nerivant
Phototoxin wrote:The_Savior wrote:
Yeah, I'm sure it's sad and to a lot of people it's a "big" deal...
But Steve Jobs wasn't the only person in world that died today.
I guess it's just the only person people seem to care about.
And seeing how I don't use Apple products nor Macs...
I agree. People starving in africa, while corruption is being protested in wall street, people dying in wartorn countries and but a rich white man dies and the world stops?
What does his race have to do with anything?
The trolling in this thread has reached legendary proportions.
Though, knowing Jobs' sense of humor, he'd probably find all of this hilarious.
"DANCE MY PUPPETS, DANCE!"
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Post by: Janthkin
<broadcast mode active: a public reminder: while this is the OT forum, you are still bound by Dakka's Code of Conduct, and rude posts, trolling, and OT conversations about other forums are all in breach of the rules.>
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Post by: mattyrm
I find the fuss being made laughable. Why are heads of state releasing statments? A businessman died, happens every day.
He seemed a pleasant enough fella, so what?
Im sick of all the cretins that make up my friends on facebook spamming fake sympathy for the guy, what did he do? Make products we use. Many many others do the same.
Are you going to put a sad status update on when the head of Npower dies? What about when the CEO's of British telecom, Yorkshire water, British gas or Tesco die as well?
I mean gak, we use all of their products too..... lets have an outpouring of fake grief for some more suits we never actually knew! 
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Post by: Monster Rain
It's not necessarily "fake grief."
He was a recognizable figure to a lot of people, and it's not really out of line to be bummed that someone that you are aware of dies.
The "hurrr Steve Jobs" posts are just as pointless and goofy as what you're trying to make the "Goodbye Steve Jobs" posts out to be. The sword cuts both ways, as it were.
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Post by: Cheesecat
Monster Rain wrote:It's not necessarily "fake grief."
He was a recognizable figure to a lot of people, and it's not really out of line to be bummed that someone that you are aware of dies.
The "hurrr Steve Jobs" posts are just as pointless and goofy as what you're trying to make the "Goodbye Steve Jobs" posts out to be. The sword cuts both ways, as it were.
I can see where mattyrm is coming from though it's often hard to be sympathetic to people you've never met or known. Like a kid from my class died and I was more shocked and felt awkward, but wasn't really
sad about the situation.
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Post by: Samus_aran115
.... rabble rabble. Something about the 4S jinxing him.
Very sad. He wasn't the oldest fart in the world either, he might have had another twenty in him...
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Post by: Necros
Yeah he mighta been a businessman or whatever, but he was in the public eye enough and created a loyal fanbase of mac nerds all over the world. So of course some of them are gonna be sad even when they never met him. It's like if Jack Nicholson was your favorite actor and he died, you'd prolly be at least little bummed...
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Post by: Monster Rain
Cheesecat wrote:I can see where mattyrm is coming from though it's often hard to be sympathetic to people you've never met or known.
Actually, I think you'd find that there are a lot of people who don't find it all that hard.
Amnesty International is a pretty good example of a sizable group of people that make a habit out of sympathy for people they don't know, and I don't imagine that they are the only one.
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Necros wrote:Yeah he mighta been a businessman or whatever, but he was in the public eye enough and created a loyal fanbase of mac nerds all over the world. So of course some of them are gonna be sad even when they never met him. It's like if Jack Nicholson was your favorite actor and he died, you'd prolly be at least little bummed...
Yup. I imagine it's something akin to what I felt when Johnny Cash or Warren Zevon died.
I guess the bottom line is if you don't care, why go out of your way to bother people that do?
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Post by: Ma55ter_fett
He was ceo of a company whose products I have never owned.
But he made a lot of money.
And for that I salute him!
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Post by: mattyrm
Monster Rain wrote:
Amnesty International is a pretty good example of a sizable group of people that make a habit out of sympathy for people they don't know, and I don't imagine that they are the only one.
Ah man! Don't get me started on those god damn tree huggers with their due process and their habeas corpus yatta yatta yatta...
Jesus! Its like a man cant even get a blowtorch and a pair of pliers out and get to work for the good of his country!
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Post by: Ma55ter_fett
mattyrm wrote:Monster Rain wrote:
Amnesty International is a pretty good example of a sizable group of people that make a habit out of sympathy for people they don't know, and I don't imagine that they are the only one.
Ah man! Don't get me started on those god damn tree huggers with their due process and their habeas corpus yatta yatta yatta...
Jesus! Its like a man cant even get a blowtorch and a pair of pliers out and get to work for the good of his country!
I've got some electrical work that needs doing if you are desperate to use the needle-nose.
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Post by: Monster Rain
mattyrm wrote: Ah man! Don't get me started on those god damn tree huggers with their due process and their habeas corpus yatta yatta yatta...
Jesus! Its like a man cant even get a blowtorch and a pair of pliers out and get to work for the good of his country!
I know, right?
What's a little waterboarding between friends?
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Post by: mattyrm
Monster Rain wrote:mattyrm wrote: Ah man! Don't get me started on those god damn tree huggers with their due process and their habeas corpus yatta yatta yatta...
Jesus! Its like a man cant even get a blowtorch and a pair of pliers out and get to work for the good of his country!
I know, right?
What's a little waterboarding between friends?
Yeah, we took a couple of Taliban fighters prisoner in Afghanistan, we fed them, watered them, and then I strip one naked and blindfold him with a king size bag of pork rinds Im the bad guy?!
Its political correctness gone mad!
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Post by: Janthkin
<stay on topic!>
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Post by: Ahtman
This happens every time we have a thread about a well known person passing away.
Due to empathy, my condolences to the friends and family who knew him. He is certainly an interesting (if not polarizing) figure that had an impact on pop culture and technology.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Was it the CNN obituary columnist who wrote that as a Windows user he owed a great deal to Steve Jobs?
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Post by: mattyrm
Thats lol-worthy.
Those guys must have a sense of humour after all!
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Post by: Avatar 720
Sorry to hear that such an inspirational man and technological figurehead has passed.
Whilst it doesn't come as a surprise considering his recent ill health, i'm sure it's still a crushing blow to people everywhere.
Cancer does indeed suck, and I count myself lucky that those few family members and close friends of mine who have had cancer managed to make it out alive.
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Post by: Adam LongWalker
Phototoxin wrote:The_Savior wrote:
Yeah, I'm sure it's sad and to a lot of people it's a "big" deal...
But Steve Jobs wasn't the only person in world that died today.
I guess it's just the only person people seem to care about.
And seeing how I don't use Apple products nor Macs...
I agree. People starving in africa, while corruption is being protested in wall street, people dying in wartorn countries and but a rich white man dies and the world stops?
Oh I'm going to tick some people off but...
How can I feel sorry for a man who gave nothing to charity? And neither did his wife? 8 Billion Dollars he was worth. Nothing to charity when he was alive.
People will say "It's his money and he can do anything he liked with it". Sure he can and he did. But he ain't no saint. He is the prime example of Capitalism at it's best and at it's worst. And I show no remorse only disdain because of his actions in life. His legacy is his "toys". He did not give a damn about humanity, only his so called immortality with his innovations.
To me he was a man who was full blown Narcissist. Rich Man Syndrome I like to say. I've met too many of these guys in my life and it disgusts me to no end about their beliefs in there "entitlements". This belief is one of the reasons of the disconnect between Wall Street and Main Street here in the US.
There are plenty of people of wealth around the world who gives to the needy, who tries to make things right because they know that that "is" the right thing to do. They are fully aware that there is a point when the money that they have made is making more money that they can ever spend it all in a life time. These are the people you want to praise.
Not people like Steve Jobs.
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Post by: halonachos
I don't personally like the guy, and I think he gets too much credit than he deserves. People see Apple and think Steve Jobs, I think Wozniak is better, much better. Wozniak even brought the first universal remote into the market, he's the guy who made the Apple I and II computers, Jobs just sold them.
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Post by: J.Black
halonachos wrote:I don't personally like the guy, and I think he gets too much credit than he deserves. People see Apple and think Steve Jobs, I think Wozniak is better, much better. Wozniak even brought the first universal remote into the market, he's the guy who made the Apple I and II computers, Jobs just sold them.
I feel like this too.....
Jobs was an amazing marketer and salesman, but the credit for actually designing the technology goes to others.
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Post by: Phototoxin
I get warned for my opinion and yet the Beeb can call apple a 'cult' with impunity?
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Post by: Blackskullandy
I was [i]so expecting this to be a rickroll..
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Post by: kronk
Really? You're really going with that arguement? Wow.
The BBC is not a registered member of the DakkaDakka forums that I am aware. They have their own website called bbc.co. uk. Are you asking one of our moderators to go to bbc.co. uk and ban the BBC or something? 
If you would like to create your own forum or blog, please do so. You can say what you want on it. While here, you can follow the rules or get your hand slapped when you break them.
Please stop whining.
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Post by: halonachos
Freedom of Speech doesn't apply to privately owned websites.
Anywho I wonder what his epitaph will be, I can think of some rather innapropriate/irreverant ones that involves the "i" so common in Apple products, but they'll probably go with something like a list of positive adjectives or one of his quotes about success.
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Post by: Avatar 720
If I found an i in my apple i'd be outraged.
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Post by: halonachos
iMac, iPod, iPad, iPhone... if they make an artificial eye it would sound like a sailor acknowledging the captain's orders.
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Post by: Phototoxin
halonachos wrote:Freedom of Speech doesn't apply to privately owned websites.
Anywho I wonder what his epitaph will be, I can think of some rather innapropriate/irreverant ones that involves the "i" so common in Apple products, but they'll probably go with something like a list of positive adjectives or one of his quotes about success.
iRIP?
(NOTE TO ALL THIS IS NOT A JIBE/STAB/OFFENSIVE COMMENT DIRECTED AT THE LATE MR JOBS, I'M SURE HE WAS NICE I JUST CARE MORE ABOUT OTHER STUFF. ALSO WHY AM I SHOUTING. AND WHY IS BELLYBUTTON FLUFF BLUE?)
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Post by: Blackskullandy
Phototoxin wrote:
AND WHY IS BELLYBUTTON FLUFF BLUE?)
It's the aggregate of all the colours you wear apparently. Not sure where i read that now... All i know is when i wear a lot of black, my bellybutton fluff is also black. Automatically Appended Next Post: halonachos wrote:iMac, iPod, iPad, iPhone... if they make an artificial eye it would sound like a sailor acknowledging the captain's orders.
Or a primitive primate?
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://animals.nationalgeographic.co.uk/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/animals/images/primary/ayeaye.jpg&imgrefurl=http://animals.nationalgeographic.co.uk/animals/mammals/aye-aye.html&h=324&w=470&sz=30&tbnid=ju0E6KT0TlhhqM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=131&prev=/search%3Fq%3Daye%2Baye%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=aye+aye&docid=kwK14SfYjD-MBM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=qgWPTojVM4Wu8QOs0fEf&ved=0CDcQ9QEwAg
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Post by: Ambull
Didn't think I'd be as sad, we all knew (he knew) he wasn't long for this planet. I owe him a great deal of thanks, for giving the tools that have changed the world, in graphics, audio and video, communications. A lot of us here on Dakka are probably of the 'older' generation, guys and gals in their 30s who were the generation that saw the transition into computers, the first to see desktop machines in elementary school and then at home. We felt that experience, that rush of things changing in big ways - it's awesome to have lived during a time of technological revolution.
Cancer is awful, no two ways about it, he should have had the opportunity to do more and to see more of how his work effected culture. R.I.P. - but the guy will live forever - we are a 'Computer World' now, no going back - that's down to him.
I'll never forget my first experience with an Mac LCII, whopping 4mb RAM, an incredible drawing program where you could make black or white pixels: MacPaint II. Subsequently I first sampled and played back digital audio on the same computer, now whole albums and live shows are coordinated through Macbooks. I would not be in business if it weren't for desktop publishing and the computer's present role in the printing industry. Guy was a genius, not a great people person but a great business mind and a creative visionary who backed up his ideas with real progress and concrete items for the masses. Looking forward to reading the authorized bio that's coming out.
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Post by: halonachos
Bad news for you Ambull.
wiki wrote:After Apple co-founder Steve Jobs left Apple in 1985, product development was handed to Jean-Louis Gassée, formerly manager of Apple France. Gassée consistently pushed the Apple product line in two directions, towards more "openness" in terms of expandability and interoperability, and towards higher price. Gassée long argued that Apple should not market their computers towards the low end of the market, where profits were thin, but instead concentrate on the high end and higher profit margins. He illustrated the concept using a graph showing the price/performance ratio of computers with low-power, low-cost machines in the lower left and high-power high-cost machines in the upper right. The "high-right" goal became a mantra among the upper management, who said "fifty-five or die", referring to Gassée's goal of a 55 percent profit margin.[1]
This policy led to a series of ever more expensive computers. This was in spite of strenuous objections within the company, and when a group at Claris started a low-end Mac project called "Drama", Gassée actively killed it. By the 1990, with sales slumping, arguments broke out over whether or not the high-right goal should be maintained. In the end, Gassée was forced from the company and Michael Spindler was given his position, with the job of producing a low-cost series of machines. The result was the Macintosh Classic, Macintosh IIsi, and the LC.
The original LC was an attempt at an affordable, modular, color-capable Macintosh. As such, when compared with earlier Macs Apple cut some corners on performance and features in order to keep the price down. The LC's system specifications nearly duplicated those of the 3 year old Macintosh II. Nevertheless, the machine hit a sweet spot and, with the pent-up demand for a low-cost Macintosh, it was a strong seller. In 1991 was succeeded by the LC II, which replaced the LC's Motorola 68020 processor with a 68030. It retained the original LC's 16-bit system bus however, making its performance roughly the same as the earlier model. The main benefit of the 030 processor in the LC II was the ability to use System 7's virtual memory feature. In spite of this, the new model sold even better than the LC.
Jobs didn't make the Mac LCII, that was developed under a Michael Spindler.
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Post by: chromedog
Nerivant wrote:His visage for the past few months was that of Death Himself.
Shame he's gone; but this shouldn't surprise anyone.
Whilst his persona was that of the "world's thinnest and lightest CEO".
He was part of a company that made a smart phone (because it's users are often muppets that need the assistance).
Not the pope.
If he cared about quality, then he would never have succeeded. His success is the success of marketing v quality.
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Post by: DIDM
n0t_u wrote:Well since he was no longer the CEO of Apple he likely gave over control a while ago (Wiki says the current CEO is Tim Cook). Definitely not a thing to be left to the last minute in any case.
He has been groomed for years before he was handed the controls. Steve knew he was in the short end of the stick. He died mere months after handing over the reigns.
so, who else bought low?
http://www.google.com/search?q=apple+stock&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US fficial&client=firefox-a
don't waste any time, BUY BUY BUY
also, when will the first Venerable Jobs appear?
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