Hello, Dakka. In your opinion, is the Dakka club membership worth the money? I have heard good things about it. So, what is your opinion?

What are you expecting?

If you want to support Dakka to some degree financially then do it, if you're expecting a door to a magical land of fay delights to open then you probably should spend the $25 on something else.

I figured that a one year membership works out to about $2 per year since I started posting on Dakka, which is a pretty good deal.

I have no regrets with my DCM membership and aside from the custom title I had no expectations about what that money was going to provide me other than maintaining this site.

Is it worth the money? Practically speaking, no. But If you like DakkaDakka then by all means join, but don't do it if you hope to get something out of the donation. Do it to ensure that the lights stay on here and the ethics of bringing an unpainted army to a game can be rehashed time and again.

There are two questions you need to ask yourself about becoming a DCM.

1) Do you use the site alot and think it needs to be supported?
If yes: make the leap, provided you have the $25 to spare.
Becoming a DCM isn't an obligation. It's a choice.

In my case, I've been here for a long time. I decided it's time to give back.

2) Are you thinking you'll get preferential treatment from the community and/or mods if you become a DCM?

I'll say this right now. There's accusations that Mods "protect" the DCMs.
They most certainly do not.
I got a warning for doing something stupid and that I should have known better not to do which, because of the way the system works, resulted in an automatic three or so week long ban.

Fair warning. DCM != bulletproof.

It all comes down to this:

"Does the entertainment from this website and joy within my life justify me pulling out $25 and getting a few extra perks and behind the scene looks of what Dakka has?"

I've done the DCM thing and I say it was a worthwhile investment to the site.

I also leveled up two other DCMs because I felt their contributions to the site were worth giving them DCM-ship.

As a non-DCM, I've been considering joining up myself. I'd like to give back, cause this is a great site, I just haven't gotten to it yet. But I say go for it!

@plastictrees: Yes, I would like to support Dakka. And, how do you have a 2 dollar per year DCM?

@Kanluwen: Thank you for the warning. Now to answer the questions:

1. I generally go on Dakka each night, and go on every time I feel that I must.

2. No, I do not think that. I have always thought that DCM are a little more favored, though. Sorry to but into personal stuff, but what would be so bad that resulted in a 3 week long ban?


Anyways, thank you all.

If you have a spare couple of months you can even trawl through the >1000 page thread of super awesome pictures.

It is always the first thing the new DCMs are directed to in the Mosh Pit.

If I wasn't a MOD I'd be a DCM as, like Kanluwen I've been on dakka for ages and believe it is worth the investment.

I would love to be a DCM, but cash is a problem.

...Someday, I will see Kilrazy's collection of Asian women...

Ogryn wrote:
@Kanluwen: Thank you for the warning. Now to answer the questions:

1. I generally go on Dakka each night, and go on every time I feel that I must.

But do you think that usage is something you really need to pay for?

Think of it like a gratuity at a place where you're getting food from. You don't necessarily have to tip, but if you feel it's worth it--you do.

2. No, I do not think that. I have always thought that DCM are a little more favored, though.

Not really.

Sorry to butt into personal stuff, but what would be so bad that resulted in a 3 week long ban?

Basically, the way the "System" works is that it goes incrementally. If you have a history of doing the thing you were doing and should know better--the punishment is worse.

I was dumb enough to let myself get involved in a situation I should have known better than to get involved in, and rather than let it drop I continued swinging.

Alright, thank you for the advice, Kanluwen. I really like Dakka, and feel that contributing is good for the site.

I, too, am thinking of becoming a DCM, but I think I'm going to wait until I hit 1000 posts to prove to myself I'll be here for the long haul. Already spent a year here so far, so once I hit 1000, DCM here I come!

Hey, that sounds like a good idea.

As you can tell by my post count, I'm not extremely talkative, yet I'm on Dakka a lot and have been for years... To me being a DCM is all about giving back to a place that's brought me a lot of time wasting at work and many discussions with friends...

My DCM membership ran out and I'm surviving just fine.

It’s not really about the extra perks you get, but about supporting the site which relies heavily on user donations.

Ma55ter_fett wrote:It’s not really about the extra perks you get, but about supporting the site which relies heavily on user donations.

This is it in a nutshell. If you're looking at your DCM contribution as payment for some sort of club membership with added perks, you're probably going to be disappointed. Because that's neither what it is, nor what it is intended to be. DCM status, and the perks that come with it, are the Administration's way of saying 'Thank you' for contributing financially to the site. It's something you do because you want to support the site, not something you do for reward. Aside, obviously, from the reward of Dakka still being here for you to visit...

I really enjoy Dakka. I've met some really cool people, I've found motivation to finish projects I started 15 years ago and start projects I'd been thinking about for longer. Dakka has given me a place where I can connect with my contemporaries, learn techniques from masters in real time, and (metaphorically) walk amongst gods. It's given me a place to upload almost 800 pictures (so far) and has provided countless hours of entertainment and distraction.

Had planned on going DCM on my Dakka birthday, but I was offline for a while and missed it. So now I'm waiting for post #1000. Not so many left to go. This just got me 1 closer...

I love supporting the site amd I love I don't have to deal with the banner ads as they made my computer at work have kittens everytime I logged on before I was a DCM. Also I find the threads much more civil. Totally worth it imho.

I support the Site hence why I am a DCM. I also like the more of a civil approach that happens when becoming a DCM. Some of the same people that I would be yelling at in a regular forum, I would be civil at the DCM forum and would get the same in return. To me that is way cool thing to happen.

Civil....?

Ogryn wrote:Civil....?

Go to the off topic section of this site. Gets pretty hairy over there. The DCM forum is much more relaxed, more mature over there.

I told myself I would become a DCM when I reached 1000 posts...1000 posts came quicker than I thought and I realized I didn't have the money...I would do it just so I can find more forum sections to trol...err....positively contribute

I would do it just to help dakka, don't expect to get some kind of special treatment or hope for some little "gifts" after you donate 25$

You get discounts at certain stores online which for $25 for one year is nkt bad if you buy from the warstore and such plus there are the prize drawings.

Is it some kind of bargain or something? No. But that's not the point. I enjoyed it while I had it, but I just don't participate in the community enough recently to merit.

I've been considering becoming a DCM for a while now, but still need to make the jump.

I started out, as I suspect most peolple do, as a lurker for quite a while before joining, and even now I consider myself more of a lurker than contributor - as my post count shows.

This site has given me a great deal of pleasure. There are some real characters on here, some great debates and some wacky & weird stuff that just cracks me up, and I think it would be good to put something back in for all the enjoyment I've had, and hope to carry on having.

My DCM status ran out on Sunday and I felt very strongly about renewing it, not for the benefits but because I realize I'm on Dakkadakka more than ANY other website. It's quality entertainment for me that I feel merits a $25 annual donation.

Gavin Thorne wrote:My DCM status ran out on Sunday and I felt very strongly about renewing it, not for the benefits but because I realize I'm on Dakkadakka more than ANY other website. It's quality entertainment for me that I feel merits a $25 annual donation.

Yea me too. Thinking of throwing more money to increase my time in the DCM as well. $25 a year is nothing on what money people will spend on their hobby.

And to me it goes to a good cause as well.

You don't become a DCM to get rewards from DakkaDakka.

You become a DCM to reward DakkaDakka.

Ask yourself this;
Do you like using Dakka?

It's here because DCM pony up the cash to keep it going.

Do you want to keep using Dakka?
Then chip in to help cover the costs.

We get custom titles.

The moshpit is probably my favorite part of Dakka, I don't post that much, but I think it's by far the most interesting to read. If you have the same amazing luck as both KingCracker and myself, you might win a $50 warstore voucher in the raffle almost as soon as you sign up
You'll also begin to realise why Alpharius has such a high post count

I am still fairly new to dakka, but I made the jump to DCM as I am on this site all the time, so I feel like I would give back.

It should not be a measure if it is worth it monatarily, it is a measure if you wish to support the site.

If you choose to do so, that is great, and as a way of saying thank you, you recive some added perks.

I didn't get corrupted in the Moshpit I swear.. well maybe a little bit, but I was a ickle bit dodgy before I joined.

(That makes a little more sense if you are a DCM btw. Closing in on 200 pages.. woot!)


Ahem, on topic.. I joined to help Dakka, the title was a bonus, but the main reason is to know you are helping out with the site's costs. Would do my head in if this place collapsed.

Well worth it in my opinion.

How much of the site's income comes from DCM's and how much comes from ads?

I've thought about becoming a DCM, but I haven't really visited the site in a while.

OP, I think if you have to think about it/create a thread about it, then for you at least, it's probably not worth it.*

*i.e. Become a DCM out of your own heart/desires/wallet, not the advice of others.

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Personally, I haven't looked back since joining Dakka then becoming a DCM; I enjoy and value the site, the people and it's quality that I felt the investment was well worth it.

As others have said, become a DCM not to get anything extra from Dakka, but to show your support for Dakka.

I've been a DCM for about a month now and am happy with my decision. The perks are rather minimal, but Dakka's a great site and it's earned my support. (Plus, I feel a little bad about using an addblocker and denying the site income.)

I became a DCM simply the 2 or 3 hours of daily entertainment is worth 7 cents a day to me. Wish that I could say the same about other such enterprises.

insaniak wrote:

Ma55ter_fett wrote:It’s not really about the extra perks you get, but about supporting the site which relies heavily on user donations.

This is it in a nutshell. If you're looking at your DCM contribution as payment for some sort of club membership with added perks, you're probably going to be disappointed. Because that's neither what it is, nor what it is intended to be. DCM status, and the perks that come with it, are the Administration's way of saying 'Thank you' for contributing financially to the site. It's something you do because you want to support the site, not something you do for reward. Aside, obviously, from the reward of Dakka still being here for you to visit...

Plus the warm fuzzy feeling you can get if one of the sanctioned trolls that the moderators continually do nothing about has a go at you.

"Sweet! I could have used this money to buy a new model, instead I paid to get attacked by one of the resident animals! This is awesome.

Worglock wrote:
Plus the warm fuzzy feeling you can get if one of the sanctioned trolls that the moderators continually do nothing about has a go at you.

Funny, could have sworn that was your role.

The plot thickens.

Anyway, I think the custom title by itself is worth, as Ouze pointed out, 7 cents a day.

The carte blanche to run roughshod over the rights and feelings of others is a bonus. /sarcasm

Worglock wrote:

insaniak wrote:

Ma55ter_fett wrote:It’s not really about the extra perks you get, but about supporting the site which relies heavily on user donations.

This is it in a nutshell. If you're looking at your DCM contribution as payment for some sort of club membership with added perks, you're probably going to be disappointed. Because that's neither what it is, nor what it is intended to be. DCM status, and the perks that come with it, are the Administration's way of saying 'Thank you' for contributing financially to the site. It's something you do because you want to support the site, not something you do for reward. Aside, obviously, from the reward of Dakka still being here for you to visit...

Plus the warm fuzzy feeling you can get if one of the sanctioned trolls that the moderators continually do nothing about has a go at you.

"Sweet! I could have used this money to buy a new model, instead I paid to get attacked by one of the resident animals! This is awesome.

Worglock, that chip on your shoulder, is that oven-baked, beer-battered, crinkled or all three?

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Stop trying to make the mods out as corrupt or inept, it won't help your cause. I agree with your gripe with an individual in the Necron news threads that I noticed you mention there, but just use the yellow triangle of friendship rather than A) complaining and B) complaining about those that have the 'authority' to help.
It's the internet and you're a grown man(?), don't get worked up about it and just report him/them, rather than make snide comments. That'd be my advice anyway, I don't claim to be an expert nor have I really encountered you on the forums, but it's pretty much what I'd recommend...

I have been wanting to join for about a year now. This thread finally motivated me into doing so.

Example A:

Kanluwen wrote:2) Are you thinking you'll get preferential treatment from the community and/or mods if you become a DCM?

I'll say this right now. There's accusations that Mods "protect" the DCMs.
They most certainly do not.
I got a warning for doing something stupid and that I should have known better not to do which, because of the way the system works, resulted in an automatic three or so week long ban.

Fair warning. DCM != bulletproof.

Example B:

worglock wrote:Plus the warm fuzzy feeling you can get if one of the sanctioned trolls that the moderators continually do nothing about has a go at you.

It's rare on the internet that we find such perfect examples of someone who obviously knows what they are talking about (Example A) and someone who obviously doesn't (Example B).

Manchu wrote:Example A:

Kanluwen wrote:2) Are you thinking you'll get preferential treatment from the community and/or mods if you become a DCM?

I'll say this right now. There's accusations that Mods "protect" the DCMs.
They most certainly do not.
I got a warning for doing something stupid and that I should have known better not to do which, because of the way the system works, resulted in an automatic three or so week long ban.

Fair warning. DCM != bulletproof.

Example B:

worglock wrote:Plus the warm fuzzy feeling you can get if one of the sanctioned trolls that the moderators continually do nothing about has a go at you.

It's rare on the internet that we find such perfect examples of someone who obviously knows what they are talking about (Example A) and someone who obviously doesn't (Example B).

Because calling someone out in a thread they haven't previously posted in is ok right?

Don't bother answering, I already know that it is for your favorites amongst the Battered Wives of Big Tom Kirby.

I recently became a DCM to support the website that I spend so much time on.

You fethers entertain me, so I'm helping with the hosting costs and what-not.

Were I a lesser man, I'd post a popcorn .gif right here. But I will restrain myself.

Suffice to say that the DCM forum is a magical place where we ride through candycane forests on gumdrop ponies.

Worglock wrote:Because calling someone out in a thread they haven't previously posted in is ok right?

Thanks for another great example of obviously not knowing what you're talking about.

Thank you for reminding me, Ogryn.

Manchu wrote:

Worglock wrote:Because calling someone out in a thread they haven't previously posted in is ok right?

Thanks for another great example of obviously not knowing what you're talking about.

So is that then "selectively ok" or just plain "not ok, but it's your boy, so you aren't doing anything about the blatant trolling"?

"Dakka Dakka - post whatever you want as long as you bash GW."

Did you even notice that in the exchange that you're talking about I was criticizing reactionary complaints about GW? Why would I feel any need to give special protection to such a point of view while I myself was criticizing it?

One day, I'm criticized for suspending anyone who badmouths GW. The next day, I'm criticized for protecting all the posters who badmouth GW. Do you guys ever pause to consider that I might be suspending people because they deserve it, DCM or not?

Worglock wrote:

Manchu wrote:

Worglock wrote:Because calling someone out in a thread they haven't previously posted in is ok right?

Thanks for another great example of obviously not knowing what you're talking about.

So is that then "selectively ok" or just plain "not ok, but it's your boy, so you aren't doing anything about the blatant trolling"?

"Dakka Dakka - post whatever you want as long as you bash GW."

You have anger issues my friend, maybe double D isn't the place for you.

Manchu wrote:
Do you guys ever pause to consider that I might be suspending people because they deserve it, DCM or not?

No!

I think it would be worth it, and as soon as I have my own income, I'll become a DCM so fast, Dakka will crash

Worglock wrote:"Dakka Dakka - post whatever you want as long as you bash GW."

Back for a day and the old record's on repeat again?

Didn't take you long.

I am enjoying my DCM-ness and will be renewing it (assuming I have the cash) when it runs out.

Will also try to "pay it forward" as well and anoint another member who I think deserves being made a DCM.

How do you 'anoint' another member? Is there a referral program or something?

H.B.M.C. wrote:How do you 'anoint' another member? Is there a referral program or something?

The first rule of DCM is not to talk about DCM. But if you find out about the DCM program anyway you will need to find the secret meeting place, say the magical incarnations, produce your 1st print copy of Rogue Trader, and find a sponsor that will mentor you through the initiation ritual. Between us DCMs we usually refer to this mentoring as "The Anointing".

Alternatively it is also the option of purchasing DCM membership for someone else as a gift. Not sure if non-DCMs can gift DCM status to other people.

As Insaniak pointed out, there is a bit of a misnomer in the OP:

'DCM' stands for 'Dakka Contributing Member' not 'Dakka Club Member'. Any few perks that DCMs have are given as a thanks because you helped to support the site, not vice-versa. In other words, if you're expecting to get something special worth $25, then you're going to likely be disappointed. We try to give as many possible perks to every single user that we can and only hold anything back for DCMs only that wouldn't really make sense implemented for the entire site.

Remember it is a donation, not a purchase! The only way you'll feel like the $25 was 'worth it' is if you feel that you enjoy and utilize the site enough already to make it worth supporting...any additional 'perk' you get from being a DCM is simply a bonus on top of what we already provide (for free) to everyone.

H.B.M.C. wrote:How do you 'anoint' another member? Is there a referral program or something?

If you go to a users profile page you will see a paypal payment button that you can use to donate on their behalf.



And to anyone who truly believes that DCMs somehow get special treatment, I hope you realize that some of the few permanent suspensions of long-time users that we've actually done have come from the ranks of DCMs!

Well, we fill the heavy support slot of the force org, so its needed...

But seriously, I joined the DCMs kind of as a whim. I wasn't too sure what to expect, I read through some threads, lurked a little in the mosh pit, and then started spamming the ever living crap out of it (within reason). Its not an "old boys club" its not a "get out of jail free" card, instead, every DCM has thought this: Do I spend enough time here that I would hate to see the site go down? Will I be here long enough to see the end of the DCM-ship through? I would hate to see Dakka go down, so I paid 25 dollars and I was given access to a forum for DCMs... There isn't much way to say thanks to those that help support the site.

Author's note: We all know Yak doesn't have to worry about the site going down, but he does have to worry about his steady supply of scotch, which he uses the DCM money for .

Ogryn wrote:Subject: Is a DCM worth it?

Actually, except maybe for MajorTom11, I would have said no. But, yeah, he graduated to Mod-hood lately.

So that's a firm no.

How so?

Worglock wrote:"Dakka Dakka - post whatever you want as long as you bash GW."

Yes. This explains perfectly why Kanluwen, by his own admission, got a suspension as a DCM. Because we all know what a GWS hater Kanluwen is.

inquisitorlewis wrote:I have been wanting to join for about a year now. This thread finally motivated me into doing so.

Congrats on joining up.

Ouze wrote:

Worglock wrote:"Dakka Dakka - post whatever you want as long as you bash GW."

Yes. This explains perfectly why Kanluwen, by his own admission, got a suspension as a DCM. Because we all know what a GWS hater Kanluwen is.

If you post in the DCM Forum, you get to see Kan: Uncut and Unrated.

Be warned. Some things will shock your mind!

Kanluwen wrote:

Ouze wrote:

Worglock wrote:"Dakka Dakka - post whatever you want as long as you bash GW."

Yes. This explains perfectly why Kanluwen, by his own admission, got a suspension as a DCM. Because we all know what a GWS hater Kanluwen is.

If you post in the DCM Forum, you get to see Kan: Uncut and Unrated.

Be warned. Some things will shock your mind!

Now I'm intrigued.

Kanluwen wrote:If you post in the DCM Forum, you get to see Kan: Uncut and Unrated.

Be warned. Some things will shock your mind!

Oh bull gak. Like the rules don't apply in there as much as they do out here.

It would be bad to become a DCM just out of spite, right?

Probably not as it still helps out Dakka. I've meant to become one for a while just haven't got around to it.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:If you post in the DCM Forum, you get to see Kan: Uncut and Unrated.

Be warned. Some things will shock your mind!

Oh bull gak. Like the rules don't apply in there as much as they do out here.

You would be pleasantly(?) surprised.

So if the rules don't apply, it basically becomes a little private club house for people to snipe at people behind their backs.

Sounds like heaps of fun. Where do I sign up. (/sarcasm)

H.B.M.C. wrote:So if the rules don't apply, it basically becomes a little private club house for people to snipe at people behind their backs.

Sounds like heaps of fun. Where do I sign up. (/sarcasm)

Well, no. You see, many of the same rules in normal Dakka still apply in the DCM Mosh Pit.

For instance, you cannot speak about Non-DCM's in a negative way, as you are suggesting.

H.B.M.C. wrote:So if the rules don't apply, it basically becomes a little private club house for people to snipe at people behind their backs.

Sounds like heaps of fun. Where do I sign up. (/sarcasm)

All the rules actually still apply in the pit, and in fact we do have one more rule than the rest of Dakka, and that rule is exactly what you mentioned.

Nothing will get you a warning faster than talking about non-DCMs in the DCM forum, and any threads are promptly closed if that is their purpose. It is a place to have fun and hang out, not to bash non-DCMs. As laid back as the pit can be, sniping at people that cannot defend themselves will incur the full wrath of the Mods who, despite popular opinion, will unleash all powers of the Modquisition on the perp.

Ogryn wrote:Hello, Dakka. In your opinion, is the Dakka club membership worth the money? I have heard good things about it. So, what is your opinion?

This question is like asking a car salesman if the Corolla you're buying is really worth more than the brand-new BMW next to it.

If you have to ask, it is probably worth telling you that all you'll get is to support the free forums.

They're not going to insist you pay, which in my opinion is the best way to make people give you money - If people like what you give for free, they might throw you a dime to make it better.

Don't expect it to be a 'ooh, You're so cool! you're a DCM.'

That said, I do believe that Mods might tend to be more lenient on you [as they well should be. Us mutts who don't pay don't deserve anything.]

Go for it. but don't expect something out of it.

Scipio Africanus wrote:That said, I do believe that Mods might tend to be more lenient on you [as they well should be. Us mutts who don't pay don't deserve anything.]

I think DCMs might be on more of a talking basis with the Modquisition than the average user, we often pick on each other in the pit and seem to talk more directly with each other than the rest of the forum, or at least that is the impression I get after being able to see both parts of the forum.

But I really do not feel like that gives us leniency from the Mods. If anything we are viewed as the big brother getting in trouble. If there is problems involving DCMs and non-DCMs it seems like we get the guilt trip on top of the normal punishment. "Non-DCM here is your punishment, and you DCM, I thought I could expect better from you, you should now better, I am very disapointed in you, you let me down, here is the same punishment served with a side of guilt.

Not only do DCMs NOT get preferential treatment, we are expected to self-moderate ourselves and be an example, resulting in the guilt-laden punishment when bad.

H.B.M.C. wrote:So if the rules don't apply, it basically becomes a little private club house for people to snipe at people behind their backs.

Sounds like heaps of fun. Where do I sign up. (/sarcasm)

Wow HBMC, I see your constructive input and faith in Dakka is really coming along leaps and bounds these days.

Genuinely, the DCM 'mosh pit' isn't some exclusive clique where the aristocracy and elite of Dakka hang out, it's not a place where everyone sits there and criticises regular forum members whilst drinking from crystal glasses filled with the tears of GW fans, it's not an exclusive reprieve where the mods can't and don't touch anyone and it's certainly not 'a little private house club for people to snipe at people behind their backs'.
Simply, it's basically a more 'reasonable' off topic forum, where some of the regular rules of Dakka (such as swearing) are reduced. Everything else still applies; rule #1, not mentioning people who can't respond, not spamming etc. etc.

But please, try not to form a bias opinion or go out of the way to show some respect for Dakka or any user thereof.

Yakface has earned my donations for the next 3 years, with the amount of Necron Information he has given out.

And Honestly, if the 25$ is enough money that you have to ask, and think about it, then it's probably to much to spare. Dakka is a great site, and I loved it enough to donate to it, and will continue to do so.

Ogryn wrote:How so?

Well, you ask whether "a DCM was worth it", so I replied that no DCM (as in "member") was really worth 25$... Which was a tiny pun at the way you asked the question, and me acting silly as if I hadn't understood the meaning of your question.

So much for the "funny reply"

But my point still stands : it is not "worth" anything you can buy with 25$. But it brings a different view on Dakka, a nicer atmosphere to chat in, and some more mature discussions.

As some said, it also comes with a price : we are, more than any other user (apart from Mods & Admins, of course), expected to uphold the Dakka rules, and in a way, be examples by our behaviour on the site. Some may have trouble to cope with that.

YMMV.

[edit : I also am in a situation where I already bought more models than I will probably ever finish in my whole life, and 25$ is no big deal to me. I can understand people being reluctant to spend 25$ on "nothing seizable", however. In the end, if you need to ask the question, maybe you should not pay for them. If I try to think about it logically, I don't see any valid reason to pay for my DCM-ship. But I just feel like it's the thing to do, so here I am on my 2nd year now... and not a single second thought in that whole year.]

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:If you post in the DCM Forum, you get to see Kan: Uncut and Unrated.

Be warned. Some things will shock your mind!

Oh bull gak. Like the rules don't apply in there as much as they do out here.

It was a joke, H.B.M.C.

As the other DCMs in this thread have said: the "primary" rules are relaxed a bit in there, but the additional rule of "No talking about those who cannot defend themselves" is enforced as heavily as you can imagine.
We don't go in there and talk about other Dakka users where they can't say anything in their defense or as a rebuttal.

It would be bad to become a DCM just out of spite, right?

Yeah, it would.
It would also be bad to become a DCM just to think that you can get some kind of bonus.

Just Dave wrote:Genuinely, the DCM 'mosh pit' isn't some exclusive clique where the aristocracy and elite of Dakka hang out...

It's kind of hard to be "exclusive" when anyone with $25USD can join at any time.

It's the fear of the unknown that keeps them away.

The things we have seen and cannot unsee..

Yeah! Like Brook's thread with all those pictures!

YOU FOOL! Remember rule 15! That which is posted in the club house is not to be shared with outsiders! What's next, you're going to share the secret handshake?

We have a secret handshake?!

WHY WAS I NOT INFORMED!

Monster Rain wrote:

Just Dave wrote:Genuinely, the DCM 'mosh pit' isn't some exclusive clique where the aristocracy and elite of Dakka hang out...

It's kind of hard to be "exclusive" when anyone with $25USD can join at any time.

That's true...I mean they let me in...how "exclusive" could it be?
For what it's worth..the rules in the "pit" while perhaps slightly more relaxed in some respects, are not that dissimilar than those one would be expected to observe any where else on Dakka...and we're certainly not in there belittling or in anyway ridiculing Non-DCMs.
To address the OPs question...If you feel that you'd like to support Dakka...then by all means do so.

Kanluwen wrote:We have a secret handshake?!

WHY WAS I NOT INFORMED!

Because you never know when to shut up.

I like to call it "tactical leakage of informative concepts".

Keep it up and we'll have to "retire" you, one way or the other, your awesome paint thread is only keeping you safe for so long buddy.

Yeah, I need to work more on that stuff.

That Wight Battle Standard Bearer is going to be a day one painting though.

Agreed, a nice model, can't wait to see how it'll turn out when you get your grubby mits on it.

Kanluwen wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:If you post in the DCM Forum, you get to see Kan: Uncut and Unrated.

Be warned. Some things will shock your mind!

Oh bull gak. Like the rules don't apply in there as much as they do out here.

It was a joke, H.B.M.C.

As the other DCMs in this thread have said: the "primary" rules are relaxed a bit in there, but the additional rule of "No talking about those who cannot defend themselves" is enforced as heavily as you can imagine.
We don't go in there and talk about other Dakka users where they can't say anything in their defense or as a rebuttal.

It would be bad to become a DCM just out of spite, right?

Yeah, it would.
It would also be bad to become a DCM just to think that you can get some kind of bonus.

But would be entertaining. Currently in the pit, we can't talk about you behind your back, but if you become a DCM, it's open season.

That's not very nice Mikhaila. I'm disappointed in you.

I have thought about DCM, but I thought there was an age limit...

The stories that come out of the DCM forums sound good enough for 25 dollars thought...

I don't know why everyone says we don't get perks, that one thread that's 1000 pages long...... My Word, those femme fatals emit vapor off of their epidermis!

Also, Nekarta Screnia HECKTONLA!

Where is the 1000 page long thread?

Pay your $25 and see, youngblood!

Monster Rain wrote:Pay your $25 and see, youngblood!

You could try recreating such a thread in the public forums.

Of course, Alph may not like the competition...

Sometimes you get to win free stuff, so there's that. I won the LE FW Boarding Marine, which I then sold to another DCM for its $20 face value, after deciding that there was no way I was going to use 3 of them (changed from 3 planned SM armies to 1 using 3 codecies)

Also - the DakkaDakka Dice. I have close to 100 of the things now - they are truly awesome

Also - the fact that for a free website, it has a stupendous Pic Gallery and Tutorials for both the new and old(players ) can be loaded up with instructional Vids/Pics.

I donate the $25 to support a website that supports me and my Hobby needs.

That, and I like the Hawtness thread....

And as has been stated numerous times - no leeway for Forum rules for us - we are just as easily 'disciplined' as the next poster.

I actually enjoy being 'disciplined'. I'll show you my straps and buckles Later

There are also occasional beta features that are tested out on the DCM's before they go "public" (or perhaps to determine if they go public).

Personally I like the more laid back posting of the DCM forum compared to the regular forum.

I don't really go on the DCM "Big 3" threads (I think there are 3 of them but I can't be bothered to go and check), though I understand that they may keen some DCM's busy

To me, the $25 dollars was well worth it.

I'm supporting a site I really, REALLY, REALLY like/frequent. Even without the DCM perks I would have donated. I do that for other sites/organizations I feel are worth the donation. The DCM stuff is just icing on the cake for me.

Aside from my personal reasons here are some reasons that might be worth it:

-You get another sub-forum that has its own feel to it (sometimes you get a cool 'think tank' vibe off of some topics... and things 'seem' more mature)
-You get the option for personal titles
-There's a 1000+ page topic that is 'interesting' (overrated)
-There's a similar topic that is also 'interesting' ('similar' content; also overrated)

I keep donating my shillings because if I don't legoburner will be forced to live in a cardboard box and the only IT he will get to play with is a 286 PC with a tape drive.

And yakface will have to drink martinis that are stirred, not shaken; STIRRED! Dear God, no, the humanity,...

For those of you curious, here are the titles of some of the topics in the DCM forum:

My wife is a bit irritated and Waffles.

Weiner Dog Legions with Waffles.

DCM's What do you think of the New'crons and Waffles?

New DCM Shout out here, your Waffle recipes.

In fact, the only thread I can see that is locked is:

Roll your face on your keyboard thread, while eating Pancakes.

And that one DESERVED IT! PANCAKES! How dare he?!?

My wife is a bit irritated and waffle. Lol.

There's much too much spilling of secrets in this thread.

DCMs, we should all retire to our Ivory Tower to sip brandy and snack on waffles.

You can keep your brandy, I only eat my waffles while drinking a Mable Syrup Martini.

Well, I pay my money just to cover my own bandwidth, of which I use an enormous amount. $25 a year for reliable webhosting of all my spacemans is worth it for me alone.

There really are not any bonuses for being a DCM, nor should there be. The stated goal of Dakka Dakka was to be the best wargaming site on the internet. Part of that mission statement is making sure any feature or development is rolled out to everyone.

That's right, baby. I'm a Terminator with a Plasma Cannon.

Being a DCM is worth about as much as you want to get out of it, the perks you get as well as the extra forum are in my view worth way more then the 25 bucks a year. As others have said I would donate to the site simply because I enjoy it and running a site is a pretty thankless job so anything I can do to help is good.

Also 25 bucks isn't a whole lot of cheddar. If you can spare it I'd absolutely recommend it.

I really want to support the Dakka community, and thats about it.

Ogryn wrote:I really want to support the Dakka community, and thats about it.

tons of great ways to support the community, you can become a DCM and donate cash to the community or if your looking for other ways I'd highly recommend getting involved in the painting and modeling section of the forum. There is never a shortage of people looking for advice or feedback on something there working on!

I like giving advice to painting, although I am a bad painter myself.

Ogryn wrote:I like giving advice to painting, although I am a bad painter myself.

The gallery could always use more votes, and the image tags could always use fixing.

Haha, I tend to vote as much as I can.

Grakmar's point about the gallery is important, I think. If you think Dakka deserves support, there are several ways to go about it and only one requires money.

Personally, I don't have hobby funds right now that I could even consider diverting towards a donation. Instead, I try my best to give thorough and informative answers to questions (even if it feels like I'm answering the same five or so questions over and over again ) and honest feedback in the P&M forum (my main forum). I've slackened, of late, due to a dead computer limiting my Dakka time, but for a while I also did a lot of voting and tag adding/editing for the gallery (so much, in fact, that the votes stopped registering in my count for a while).

Sure, money is a big help, but don't ignore all the other things you can do to improve the site beyond donating. The way I see it, if you're willing to do that much to ensure quality content is available on Dakka without any expectation of perks (hell, even a "thanks, you really helped" PM is a rare (and beautiful) thing), that's good enough. You don't need a custom title to be a valuable contributing member of Dakka.

Ogryn wrote:I like giving advice to painting, although I am a bad painter myself.

I don't think you need to be a great painter to give advice here since the vast majority of questions that come in here are not about Golden Daemon-level techniques. I'm certainly an average at best painter, but I feel eminently qualified to answer questions such as such as "should I prime my models", "how do I paint yellow", "Do I need to thin my paints", "What is dipping", etc etc etc.

Walt Disney could only render a passable Mickey Mouse with his own pencil, but that didn't stop him from being able to guide his more-talented employees into making his visions a reality, and I think the same principle applies here.

Slarg232 wrote:For those of you curious, here are the titles of some of the topics in the DCM forum:

My wife is a bit irritated and Waffles.

Weiner Dog Legions with Waffles.

DCM's What do you think of the New'crons and Waffles?

New DCM Shout out here, your Waffle recipes.

In fact, the only thread I can see that is locked is:

Roll your face on your keyboard thread, while eating Pancakes.

And that one DESERVED IT! PANCAKES! How dare he?!?

You are forgetting the massively popular "NSFW (Not Safe For Waffes): I can't help myself. Hot waffles."

Since I prefer crepes, I really don't find much to post about in the DCM forum.

Monster Rain wrote:Since I prefer crepes, I really don't find much to post about in the DCM forum.

So you are one of our few Dakka Crepes Members then...

Genuinely, the DCM 'mosh pit' isn't Ivory tower is some exclusive clique where the aristocracy and elite of DakkaGW hang out, it's a place where everyone sits there and criticises there regular customers whilst drinking from crystal glasses filled with the tears of GW fans, and it's certainly 'a little private house club for people to snipe at people behind their backs'.

Fixed that for ya.

I guess it boils down to " Is Dakka worth donating to?". Do I have to money to spare? I think dakka is worth it I just don't have the extra cash on hand. =o[

Maybe I should stop giving my money to gaming companys?..

That fix just made it an untrue statement.

That's not a fix at all. That's breaking it.

Way to break it, Mike.

I'm GW elite?

I've officially made it.

FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:

Genuinely, the DCM 'mosh pit' isn't Ivory tower is some exclusive clique where the aristocracy and elite of DakkaGW hang out, it's a place where everyone sits there and criticises there regular customers whilst drinking from crystal glasses filled with the tears of GW fans, and it's certainly 'a little private house club for people to snipe at people behind their backs'.

Fixed that for ya.

My assumption is that you're just trying to make a joke, but other readers may not catch on.

So, I'll reiterate that the Mosh Pit is mainly full of the same type of conversations going on in the rest of Dakka (i.e. see what happened to me today, look at my army/conversion/cute walrus, inane conversations, favorite music/family member/friend/new product/sandwich cheese, etc.). The only significant differences are advance notice on Dakka changes or projects, far less trolls and oxygen thieves, and the iron rule that DCMs cannot criticize non-DCMs in the Pit. Violation of that rule results in a thread lock faster than you can prep a new Finecast model for painting.

As for the joke about all DCMs favoring GW, that is hilarious. Many DCMs have boycotted GW purchases this year. I'm not one of them and will gladly add another five to six more IG vehicles this year, but I'm in the minority.

I actually have never heard of DCMs hating GW.

DCM means that you’re supporting Dakka, not that you’re a dyed-in-the-wool White Knighting GW fanboy.

Hahaha. Lol. What about Kanuwlen.

Exactly.

Guys, you can be a DCM before even making your first post on Dakka. There is no criteria, no requirement, no expectation.

What do you get? The ability to change your title to what you want, access to a semi private forum where things tend to be pretty nice and civil, even from users usually considered to be... controversial. It is simply a nice calm place to take a break from the more argumentative parts of the forum. There are a few other small perks, but at the end of the day, it is just supporting keeping the lights on, and we appreciate that.

What it doesn't get you is any form of special treatment, immunity to any form of punishment or any kind of right to mouth off more than a normal user. Believe me, there are plenty of DCM's who get themselves in trouble. If anything, there is more of an expectation from the Mods that they would behave themselves! After all, if you shelled out to support the place, why contribute to making it worse?

Before I became a Mod, was being a DCM worth it? I would personally and without a doubt say yes. It was really nice to have a calm and entertaining place to post. The eye of the storm I used to call it lol. It is almost like a troll free OT in there... if that sounds good, jump on-board! If not, then no harm done, there is no expectation that anyone who is a big poster must become a DCM either.

Other-wise ol'HBMC would have to join!

Kanluwen wrote:That fix just made it an untrue statement.

That's not a fix at all. That's breaking it.

Way to break it, Mike.

[quote=JB

My assumption is that you're just trying to make a joke, but other readers may not catch on.

Guys, I think you should stop talking about how troll free and classy it is.
$25 aint too much, if ya catch my drift

Ogryn wrote:Hahaha. Lol. What about Kanuwlen.

HA! You’re a fast learner Ogryn.

Thank you H.B.M.C.

Stay polite boys.

Btw, to address something that was mentioned earlier, no discussion of non-DCM's is allowed in the DCM forum. No talking behind the back allowed.

Pft!

See if I share my VC blog with you lot now!
*goes back to the Ivory Tower*

Noooo! We must see them.

If you become a DCM by the end of the year, we might share our first batch of "Ivory Tower Mable Scotch" with you. It goes great with waffles.

Sorry to seem like such a noob to Dakka (I kinda am ), but what is the Ivory Tower?

It's what we're jokingly calling the DCM forum in this instance.
An 'Ivory Tower' is a term used to denote a place where the inhabitants are separated from reality.

Also, as a teaser just for you Ogryn:

Thank you for the teaser Kanluwen. I am guessing you painted it?

Yep. The standard is being painted right now, the Wight King is mostly done though.

I like it I really love Vampire Counts, and everything about them.

Kanluwen wrote:An 'Ivory Tower' is ... a place where the inhabitants are separated from reality.

Kanluwen wrote:*goes back to the Ivory Tower*

So you're tryin' to tell me that you really are separated from reality?

You're making it too easy for me Kan. It's no fun if I don't have to try!

The H.B.M.C / Kanluwen dialog always reminds me of JD and Dr Cox from SCRUBS - love it

*Mauleed, and Hellfury, I miss them *sniff*

PS - how many readers of this thread have started up as DCM's? I would be interested to see...

akira5665 wrote:The H.B.M.C / Kanluwen dialog always reminds me of JD and Dr Cox from SCRUBS - love it

Yeah, but JD and Dr Cox is actually funny...

akira5665 wrote:The H.B.M.C / Kanluwen dialog always reminds me of JD and Dr Cox from SCRUBS - love it

*Mauleed, and Hellfury, I miss them *sniff*

PS - how many readers of this thread have started up as DCM's? I would be interested to see...

The only question that remains is which of the two is JD and who is Dr Cox.

Just Dave wrote:

akira5665 wrote:The H.B.M.C / Kanluwen dialog always reminds me of JD and Dr Cox from SCRUBS - love it

Yeah, but JD and Dr Cox is actually funny...

Ohhhh BUUUURNNN

Really though, if you can spare 25$ support Dakka.

Asuron wrote:The only question that remains is which of the two is JD and who is Dr Cox.

I thought that'd be obvious...

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Asuron wrote:The only question that remains is which of the two is JD and who is Dr Cox.

I thought that'd be obvious...

Can we have a competition between the two of you on who can draw a unicorn the best.
That will settle it once and for all

It's no contest.

Justin guards my hopes and dreams. H.B.M.C. can be Dr. Cox for all I care.
*daydreams*

Kan wins on account of a brilliant Scrubs reference.

Also, he's not a unicorn. He's a horse with a sword on his head.

Jeez guys.

I became a DCM to meet women.

Unfortunately, it's a sausage fest.

Kan often goes off to dream world whenever we talk.

At least I get to get things done while he is day dreaming...

Some of the stuff on this site makes me happy
Some of it makes me sad :(
and because of that I will eventually become a DCM and support dakka, but it might take a couple of years, considering I'm only 15
I wonder if WarOne is as weird in your so called "mosh pit" as the quote in my signature would lead you to believe (making a DCM seem weird, it's as fulfilling as sucking blood )
P.S. we need a sad face orkythingy (I forget the name)

DukeBadham wrote:Some of the stuff on this site makes me happy
Some of it makes me sad :(
and because of that I will eventually become a DCM and support dakka, but it might take a couple of years, considering I'm only 15
P.S. we need a sad face orkythingy (I forget the name)

You mean one of these Orkmoticon things:

kronk wrote:I became a DCM to meet women.

Unfortunately, it's a sausage fest.

Well theres a couple female DCMs. I think one is already spoken for, and Melissia, I think she secretly hates everyone on DAKKA, maybe even herself

kirsanth wrote:Thank you for reminding me, Ogryn.

akira5665 wrote: how many readers of this thread have started up as DCM's?

Not so much because of this thread, but it really did remind me that I have been meaning to do so for a while now.

JB wrote:

DukeBadham wrote:Some of the stuff on this site makes me happy
Some of it makes me sad :(
and because of that I will eventually become a DCM and support dakka, but it might take a couple of years, considering I'm only 15
P.S. we need a sad face orkythingy (I forget the name)

You mean one of these Orkmoticon things:

yeah one of them, but just a sad face, to represent being sad, but not crying, since real men (and vampires) don't cry

DukeBadham wrote:yeah one of them, but just a sad face, to represent being sad, but not crying, since real men (and vampires) don't cry

Vampires cry whenever someone reminds them of Twilight.

Touche. (damn, them puny humans know my weakness)
*looks around suspiciously, then flees into the night, to drink another humans blood*

Hey Louie cried once........ONCE!

And I drunk his tears

DukeBadham wrote:
I wonder if WarOne is as weird in your so called "mosh pit" as the quote in my signature would lead you to believe (making a DCM seem weird, it's as fulfilling as sucking blood )

Yes, yes he is.

whalemusic360 wrote:

DukeBadham wrote:
I wonder if WarOne is as weird in your so called "mosh pit" as the quote in my signature would lead you to believe (making a DCM seem weird, it's as fulfilling as sucking blood )

Yes, yes he is.

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
totally sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
like baby blood

DukeBadham wrote:Some of the stuff on this site makes me happy
Some of it makes me sad :(
and because of that I will eventually become a DCM and support dakka, but it might take a couple of years, considering I'm only 15
I wonder if WarOne is as weird in your so called "mosh pit" as the quote in my signature would lead you to believe (making a DCM seem weird, it's as fulfilling as sucking blood )
P.S. we need a sad face orkythingy (I forget the name)

This one ?

d-usa wrote:This one ?

You've been ninja'd by several hours

DukeBadham wrote:And I drunk his tears

It was a multi reference from the movies Interview with a Vampire (great flick) and Johnny Dangerously (silly flick)

cool, it doesn't matter, tears are my second favorite source of nourishment, when they are shed, I will drink them, no matter what the source, unless you have suitable bait to distract me, preferably virgin please.

Tempting... Should I give H.B.M.C. the DCM key so he walk up the golden stairs and enter the Ivory Tower so he can make war in the heavens with his arch rival Kan?

Sounds Good, like some heroic ballad or something

We can even have Valkyries sing of their heroic deeds for millennia to come!

They could save everyone a lot of heartache and just scream at each other over skype.

The recorded audio could make for a highly entertaining podcast.

H.B.M.C hates Kanuwlen? This thread has brought up many scandals....

Now that Ogryn has edited his post, this simply didn't make sense any more.

And lo, His Brother Marneus Calgar did attempt to storm the gates of the Ivory Tower whereupon he was met by the forces of Kan the Luwen and his mighty steed, Justin.

They smote and smote and smote upon each other's guard, but in the end there was naught to do but agree that Jervis is a jerk and Mat Ward looks ridiculous with a goatee.

And from henceforth, the stars themselves shone upon the greatness that was Dakka Discussions!

Sorry about that! I meant "H.B.M.C. hates Kanuwlen?"

He's Bizzaro to my Superman.

Or vice versa. I haven't quite figured it out yet.

I don't hate Kan. What a ridiculous assertion. I think he's nuts, sure, but he's far too entertaining to actually hate!

SilverMK2 wrote:

d-usa wrote:This one ?

You've been ninja'd by several hours

I don't even remember posting this.....that's what I get for posting while extremely tired...

H.B.M.C. wrote:I don't hate Kan. What a ridiculous assertion. I think he's nuts, sure, but he's far too entertaining to actually hate!

I guess we (k)an all get along!

I have 5000 posts, and a less than favorable reputation. For me, I doubt it would be worth it...

But I certainly do enjoy dakka, and I'd throw them my money if I had any

Samus_aran115 wrote:I have 5000 posts, and a less than favorable reputation. For me, I doubt it would be worth it...

But I certainly do enjoy dakka, and I'd throw them my money if I had any

I believe you. You can't even afford your own avatar.

There was a thread a while back. I'm too lazy to change it to something else

I secretly suspect that Ogryn is secretly running a secret DCM recruitment campaign in this thread.

Well, I finally took the plunge anyway. Secretly.

My secret has been blown!

I remember a while ago posting a Vid of the famous Cpt. Kirk /Gorn fight - that always reminds me of Kan and H.B.M.C - It looks like they are fighting, but I also think somethimes it looks like they are hugging.

YMMV.

Lol. They must fight a lot....

Ogryn wrote:Lol. They must fight a lot....

Fight! Nay sir, they do not fight, they duel,
A clash the like of which makes the gods tremble, they collide with the force to end and start universe.
Powered by two formless entities of destiny of equal might, they are tools in which the fate of the universe is decided, and when they perish, the stars themselves shall cry.
And when that day comes, the power shall become anothers', to continue the endless struggle of apologists and haters, till the day the world has perish

Meh. If they met in person, they'd likely just buy each other a beer and Bro Hug.

After fighting.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I don't hate Kan. What a ridiculous assertion. I think he's nuts, sure, but he's far too entertaining to actually hate!

Hate is such a strong word, there are so many better ones out there like dispise, detest, animosity. Nice little sayings like " I wouldn't walk across the street to urinate on you if you where on fire."


Thats hate, I think what Kan and HBMC have is a budding bromance, or full blown marriage....take your pick. =o] [/sarcasm]

Detest sounds worse...

No. Its not. I have a friend whos a member and all he says its a flame fest to attack members that have no way to see what is being said or anyway to defend themselves.

Pay Dakka to see trash talk which breaks the number 1 rule here? No thank you.

Lord.Serpius wrote:No. Its not. I have a friend whos a member and all he says its a flame fest to attack members that have no way to see what is being said or anyway to defend themselves.

Pay Dakka to see trash talk which breaks the number 1 rule here? No thank you.

Your friend, sir, is stretching the truth in ways it is not meant to be stretched.

I wonder whose sock puppet account that is?

That statement is categorically false.

Kanluwen wrote:

Lord.Serpius wrote:No. Its not. I have a friend whos a member and all he says its a flame fest to attack members that have no way to see what is being said or anyway to defend themselves.

Pay Dakka to see trash talk which breaks the number 1 rule here? No thank you.

Your friend, sir, is stretching the truth in ways it is not meant to be stretched.

It's true. If we're going to talk crap about people in the pit, its other DCMs. We call people out in public if they aren't DCMs. For instance, your friend is a liar. He's welcome to rebuttal here in in the pit.