This question popped into my head when i was playing my friend for the first few times. He played sm and had s t army.
None of his minis were painted, he carried them in a laptop bag, his dad had brought all of them and just to prove his utter dissrespect and care for his models when packing away he would leave his bag open and litrally throw his minis from the table to the floor and if he missed he would go "opps oh well" and carry on!

Amazingly he also has a dissrespect for other people's models for example if i turbo-boosted my destroyers to the other end of the table he would offer to move them for me if I accepted he would pick them up awkwardly and with a too tight grip and slam them down onto the table and them look confused when i give him evil looks.

So then i thought if he broke my models what would i do.

I woud pbrobourly fix it myself if it's a minor wound.
If it's unrepairable e.g. he throws it out a window and someone runs over it in his car it would depend on the model if it was something like a warrior i would probourly just get annoyed and leave it there but if it was somethong more expensive e.g. a Monolith i may want him to pay for it lukily i've never been in a possition to have to make that decision but that leads on to my question.


If someone broke your model what would you do?
If someone oblitorated a expensive model what would you do?

If you broke someone els's model?
If you oblitorated someone els's model?

First thing, no one touches my models unless I tell them they can. Second of all, you break it, you buy me a new one.

Also, I wouldn't even play with this kid you mentioned. He has no respect for the game or other people's hard work, and I can't deal with that.

I've been in the situation where my models have gotten broken. I don't make a big fuss about it, because most of the time the model has broken along a joint which is easy to repair - i.e. an arm or backpack falls off, and all I have to do is glue it back on and maybe touch up the paint job. By the way, Saint Celestine's sword arm just LOVES to fall off, as does the occasional Battle Sister's backpack. I even had a Hammerhead break apart, and it broke along the parts where it would normally be glued anyways - although one of the engine pods broke off with the little tab that holds it on, so I had to fix that pod in place by gluing it to the hull.

Admittedly, I only play at home with my mom these days, and she's quite respectful of my models, so it's always been an accident. I've seen her do weird things, though - like recently I had a unit of Howling Banshees on the ground level of of a ruined building, and she moved them out from under it by cupping a hand and pushing them along in a pile. I kinda stared, both stunned and in horror, praying that none of their arms would break off. Fortunately, none did, but if it had, I would have repaired it myself. I am not looking forward to the first time my Exorcist will inevitably fall to the floor, but I hope it'll be my accident and not hers, so I can't possibly get upset with her about it - though I do tend to cool off rather quickly and go back to my usual friendly demeanor, after a night's sleep at the longest.

I do have some memories I'm not proud of, where I've taken one of my brother's models and cut off its legs or feet - honestly, I don't even remember WHY I did that, but I wish I hadn't. If he still played these days, I'd probably buy him a replacement model next time I'm at GW, or give him one of mine.

But if someone were being very rough with my models, I probably just wouldn't let them touch my minis. When they'd offer to move my models for me, I'd politely decline and move them myself.

And some people just aren't used to their own strength, particularly younger people. When I was somewhat younger than I am now, I liked to glomp people - basically a tackle-hug. I still wasn't used to my own weight, since I'd been fairly unsociable for the previous few years and not very affectionate. Because I wasn't used to my own weight, I didn't know that it was hurting people to glomp them, emotionally at least. Intellectually I knew, because they'd tell me, but I'd still do it. Now I've gotten more than a bit heavier thanks to my meds, so I can't move as fast as I used to be able to, so it's not an issue - though some people don't like how tightly I hug them, so sometimes I need to be reminded to hug more gently.

That doesn't really excuse being destructive towards one's own minis, though.

First thing, no one touches my models unless I tell them they can. Second of all, you break it, you buy me a new one.

Amen to that. If a piece breaks off that's easily repairable, I don't' make too much of a fuss. But say if ohhh Ahriman's staff is snapped in two due to some careless twit, that'll be money out of their pocket. Just recently I was at my local hobby shop playing a game when someone decided to help themselves to my out of play models on the side, picking up and inspecting seemingly every one of them (they were plastic, which I worry less about). Same goes the other way, I'll always ask before touching, or simply just leaning in and getting a closer look. I generally don't even touch another players model during a game unless they tell me to move it for them. Courtesy is free, models aren't.

Lol civilized people... You break a model in my country you get your neck broken Orky people.

I would be really pissed if it was an expensive metal model that is a drunk amn's work in finecast. Like a Terminator with a bendy chest. You can't replace it in metal.


A guy I know actually keeps a small mallet with him. He makes it very clear.

Topuch his stuff and a model of yours goes bye-bye. Break something and you have a choice. Either lose your prized model or buy him a nerw one. If it is expensive you do both. Sopmeone made the mistake of dropping his Thunderhawk and it smashed to pieces. Poor bloke lost his Reaver to that hammer. And hqad to buy him a new Thunderhwk.


After that that particular store banned him from life and made him pay for the reaver titan. Or else they phoned the police.

He was a stubborn nerd.

Deadshot wrote:I would be really pissed if it was an expensive metal model that is a drunk amn's work in finecast. Like a Terminator with a bendy chest. You can't replace it in metal.


A guy I know actually keeps a small mallet with him. He makes it very clear.

Topuch his stuff and a model of yours goes bye-bye. Break something and you have a choice. Either lose your prized model or buy him a nerw one. If it is expensive you do both. Sopmeone made the mistake of dropping his Thunderhawk and it smashed to pieces. Poor bloke lost his Reaver to that hammer. And hqad to buy him a new Thunderhwk.


After that that particular store banned him from life and made him pay for the reaver titan. Or else they phoned the police.

He was a stubborn nerd.

Ya, that is far too extreme. Reminds me of the guy who posted here and said he smashed peoples models when they tried to argue over rules with him. Weird people with issues....

True accident? "Can ya hand me that?" -slip- "His superglue-d arm fell off"...Well, OK, no structural damage to the model, big deal. 15 second fix. Be a bit more careful eh?

Lack of respect, slamming things around, etc? There's your warning. Round two, assuming theres no actual damage, I pack up and find another opponent.

Breakage along with the above? If it's superglued, Game over, I find another player, but that's the end of it. If it's actual structural damage to the model? Ok. You see that shelf over there? You can go buy me a replacement, or I can bring this up to the FLGS owner, resulting in your being gone. You claim poverty? Alright, FLGS Owner it is. We can arrange for you to be playing here again when you bring in the cash to fix what you broke, or bring the model in with you.

I once went to my FLGs, and I brought along all of my Death Guard models in a figure case. I quickly found a match, and began deploying my men (I rolled a 5, he rolled a 2). So, this little kid comes up, and starts looking at my models. I tell him that he could look at the models, but not touch them. While I looked away, he must have picked it up, and dropped it. As he bent down to pick it up, he clumsily stepped on it. When he refused to pay for it, I got the store manager, who then asked him to pay for it. So, he told the kid to pay for it, but the kid said he had no money. (And this was a Chaos Lord with a Forgeworld Injured Death Korps on the base. So, the store manager had the dad pay for it. I have now learned to never let a kid near my stuff.

There are accidents ( which are ok and forgivable )

Then there are negligence ( a few warnings depends on how expensive the broken thing is )

Then there are the "i dont give a ****" attitude that contributes to a tragedy awaiting to happen....
I would make it clear only i can touch them.

It really depends. Accidental, no big deal.

On purpose and fixable, you fix it.

On purpose and unreparable (snapped staves, etc), you buy a new one.

Lord have mercy on your soul and number of functional teeth if you break the Pimp Raider.

I saw a really calm bloke when his crisis suit got wrecked once, but it was such freakish circumstances that it was understandable not to be too grumpy. My friend was measuring his broadside's range (it was tau v tau) and as he let the measuring tape back in slowly, he lost control accidentally. As it zipper back, it picked up his fully converted (beautifully converted) crisis suit by the magnetic dot on its shoulder, and whisked it off the table and into the air.
Stunned silence followed before I started laughing. maybe not appropriate, but it was so cool. They CAN actually fly! Anyway my mate apologized like there was no tomorrow and the guy was cool with it, arms and legs died (he was a quadruple amputee, the crisis suit) but it was all fine because of the plain bad luck of the scenario.
Serious, that suit missed 4 buildings it could have got knocked against and fallen back onto the table from about a 10cm drop. Ah well, such is life. The guy was a top bloke about it

Several of my models have 'fragile as hell' hovering over them in big neon letters.

It's usually these that Gamestore Kid and his brother Mayhem Clumsy like to pick up

I was in a game a while back, when the Dubious Duo above picked up my Nightbringer (he of the ever-falling off arms) and the other guys forgeworld Nurgle prince (i think.. Forgeworld and rotty chaotic something anyway).

Their Mom was standing back a bit, watching and making a very mild frowny face..AT US .. For asking them to put the models down, as we were in the middle of the game.

Then one of them tossed the nurgle guy back on the table. It survived reasonable well, as it hit the table not the floor. the other plunked my nightbringer down hard, snapping both arms off from the force of the 'touchdown' (he actually said 'touchdoooowwwnnn' as he did it...)


I went over to the Mom, whose answer was 'boys will be boys'..

I then asked if she was aware just how expensive the 'toys' were?

Night bringer is 35 dollars, and your kids just broke him. I would like them to replace it.

She wasn't happy, but agreed that they should replace it out of their pocket money, while whining about how she couldn't believe a little metal ghost would cost that much (even after i showed her the price tag).

Then my friend politely informed her that his model, mercifully undamaged beyond a little pain touchup, wasi imported at great expense from the UK, and cost a gruesome sum.

She beat the kids out of the door, looking over her shoulder to make sure he wasn't pursuing her for recompense.


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In short ' touch my stuff and i will chew you out for it. Break it and you've bought me another one.'

So did they eventually pay for it?

I beat some kid with a BRB for touching my Wold Lord. Don't touch the McVey, bitches.

The mom payed up for my Ctan.

She beat feet before my friend could think about asking for the rest of her bank account.

We have a friend who routinely breaks models. Thnkfully mostly his, but sometimes other peoples.

I remember my brother making a city board, but he hadn't quite finished the asphalt roads, so they were just sealed once by the time we played on it. He told him to take it easy on the roads, since they still needed some work. He proceeded to pretend his tanks were matchbox cars, and pushed them along the roads, digging up huge trenches in the road.

We never used the board again.

I don't have a record of broken minis but there is always a case of people eating ( pizza or cheetos for example )
do a quick wipe on their tshirt and proceeds to picking up my minis. I remember squinting in disbelief and the guy says he'll be careful handling it ( which he did but.... GAHHHHH )

Deadshot wrote:I would be really pissed if it was an expensive metal model that is a drunk amn's work in finecast. Like a Terminator with a bendy chest. You can't replace it in metal.


A guy I know actually keeps a small mallet with him. He makes it very clear.

Topuch his stuff and a model of yours goes bye-bye. Break something and you have a choice. Either lose your prized model or buy him a nerw one. If it is expensive you do both. Sopmeone made the mistake of dropping his Thunderhawk and it smashed to pieces. Poor bloke lost his Reaver to that hammer. And hqad to buy him a new Thunderhwk.


After that that particular store banned him from life and made him pay for the reaver titan. Or else they phoned the police.

He was a stubborn nerd.

Holy Crap! breaking a $646 model over $66 model?

He carries a mallet @_@
must be RPing irl rofl

Well first off, I had a hard time reading the post...might want to work on that...

Secondly, no one I repeat NO ONE! touches my minis, not my brother, not my friend not my mom, not my dad...if I'm not in the room, and I don't give them permission.

If they break one...their paying me double what I paid paid for it.

PresidentOfAsia wrote:

Deadshot wrote:I would be really pissed if it was an expensive metal model that is a drunk amn's work in finecast. Like a Terminator with a bendy chest. You can't replace it in metal.


A guy I know actually keeps a small mallet with him. He makes it very clear.

Topuch his stuff and a model of yours goes bye-bye. Break something and you have a choice. Either lose your prized model or buy him a nerw one. If it is expensive you do both. Sopmeone made the mistake of dropping his Thunderhawk and it smashed to pieces. Poor bloke lost his Reaver to that hammer. And hqad to buy him a new Thunderhwk.


After that that particular store banned him from life and made him pay for the reaver titan. Or else they phoned the police.

He was a stubborn nerd.

Holy Crap! breaking a $646 model over $66 model?

Um...

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine_Aircraft?page=1 <- Thunderhawks.

Not the affectionately-named, "Chibihawk." The proper Thunderhawk.

Not that I'd condone breaking someone else's minis, especially not deliberately. I just thought it should be cleared up. ^_^

Ascalam wrote:Several of my models have 'fragile as hell' hovering over them in big neon letters.

It's usually these that Gamestore Kid and his brother Mayhem Clumsy like to pick up

I was in a game a while back, when the Dubious Duo above picked up my Nightbringer (he of the ever-falling off arms) and the other guys forgeworld Nurgle prince (i think.. Forgeworld and rotty chaotic something anyway).

Their Mom was standing back a bit, watching and making a very mild frowny face..AT US .. For asking them to put the models down, as we were in the middle of the game.

Then one of them tossed the nurgle guy back on the table. It survived reasonable well, as it hit the table not the floor. the other plunked my nightbringer down hard, snapping both arms off from the force of the 'touchdown' (he actually said 'touchdoooowwwnnn' as he did it...)


I went over to the Mom, whose answer was 'boys will be boys'..

I then asked if she was aware just how expensive the 'toys' were?

Night bringer is 35 dollars, and your kids just broke him. I would like them to replace it.

She wasn't happy, but agreed that they should replace it out of their pocket money, while whining about how she couldn't believe a little metal ghost would cost that much (even after i showed her the price tag).

Then my friend politely informed her that his model, mercifully undamaged beyond a little pain touchup, wasi imported at great expense from the UK, and cost a gruesome sum.

She beat the kids out of the door, looking over her shoulder to make sure he wasn't pursuing her for recompense.


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In short ' touch my stuff and i will chew you out for it. Break it and you've bought me another one.'

Holy crap did those kids have assbergers or something?

and the mother.......

Im generally really laid back. I dont mind if people pick up my models, look at them, nerd over em. Its ok to me cause i put alot of work into the conversions and painting of alot of my armys. My Forgeworld avatar? Took me 3 days to build his base and paint him and get him sync'd up just right? I have NO problem if another hobbiest picks him up. Most people who play this game have good respect for others models. However....Little kids? Jerks? they ASK first. If they display proper respect, they can inspect. if not, i generally ask kindly not to touch.

If someone breaks one of my models? it really depends? i have had a few break in the past and out comes the glue/accellerent or i set it aside and let it dry. No harm really done, its just a model. if its completly unfixable or unconvertably fixable....then i ask to help me replace it.


if anyone ever did something on purpose? just straight out im going to break it with my hammer cause you did an acciedental thing, or i dont like it its not "Fluffy" enough, or hey! im a jerkbag and i break yo models "insert interent meme here"....well a mans patience can only go so far before they find out what layers of pain they can stand before screaming like a squeemish child.


Its never gone that far, and i have only ever had one model replaced. I do stress to parents of kids and other people the cost of things before they "play" with them or inspect them (like my titans and Avatar and whatnot) so sometimes the "Pricetag" and where it comes from is enough to detour them from picking it up if they are nervous.




but again i have had no real problems

If you break it and its a minor repair, like glueing an arm back on or something, I will simply ask that you don't touch my models again.

If it is a major repair that would require repainting or a whole new model, you better get your wallet out...

It all depends on the situation. Most of the time these things are accidents, and it's no big deal. Most of my models are crap anyway.

I like to think I'm too adult to resort to violence, no matter how much of a jerk the guy was. In the heat of the moment, especially if it wasn't a tournament game? I might throw some 'bows.

If it was a genuine accident and it's fixable (and it always is), breaking a model isn't a big deal and is business as usual, seems to happen every couple months. Never seen anything truly harmed enough in anything that wasn't repairable or fixed with a few minutes of painting.

There's a guy in our group who is notorious for breaking my models and my terrain. It's not intentional by any means, but it always seems to happen, so much so that it's become a running joke.

It could be worse though. He could've set my kitchen on fire...

@Chowderhead: Thats a bit harsh!

Grey Templar wrote:If you break it and its a minor repair, like glueing an arm back on or something, I will simply ask that you don't touch my models again.

If it is a major repair that would require repainting or a whole new model, you better get your wallet out...

You make em buy you a paint pot?

But I've had a little kid break my vendetta. He somehow managed to break the tail off. I was angry but didnt go ape gak on him. I looked it over, saw it could be repaired, then told him that if he touches my models again without asking he buys it if he breaks it. And it wasn't some minor scratch. I had to work a while to fix it. But broken models comes with the game. If its truly an accident and the guys remorseful, then i'll let bygones be bygones.

maybe. The least they can do is pay for the repair.

I left a pully painted chaos marines army on a table overnight in my parents basement years back....I remember hearing a noise and when I walked out of my bedroom, my mom was sweeping all the models in a box to get them off the table... it was back in the day of mostly metal models. terminators, bloodletters, HQ's, EVERYTHING just swept in a box and tossed aside.

Of course she had no real idea how much I cared about them or the paint jobs, she just did what she had always done...throw all my toys in a box when I didnt put them away myself...

needless to say, the paint was completely chipped and ruined :(

If anyone else had done that...

I have had my land speeder broken more times then I can count, all by accident. I just put it back together and call it battle damage, the thing is ironically darn near indestructible on the tabletop.

I don't let anyone I don't know personally touch my minis w/o permission. My friends have standing permission, but know to be careful .

BarBoBot wrote:I left a pully painted chaos marines army on a table overnight in my parents basement years back....I remember hearing a noise and when I walked out of my bedroom, my mom was sweeping all the models in a box to get them off the table... it was back in the day of mostly metal models. terminators, bloodletters, HQ's, EVERYTHING just swept in a box and tossed aside.

Of course she had no real idea how much I cared about them or the paint jobs, she just did what she had always done...throw all my toys in a box when I didnt put them away myself...

needless to say, the paint was completely chipped and ruined :(

If anyone else had done that...

Ah-heh... Reminds me, when my brother quit WH40k, he just put all his minis in a big cardboard box, piling them upon each other heedlessly. A few years later, when I got back into the game, having found someone to play with, I eventually asked him about those minis. He offered to sell them to me - which reminds me, I still need to pay him for all those minis... - and I rescued them from their torment. ^_^ Still haven't found his 'crons, unfortunately, but I know he had some, because I used one of his Necrons' legs as a bionics piece for one of my Sister Superiors.

Deadshot wrote:I would be really pissed if it was an expensive metal model that is a drunk amn's work in finecast. Like a Terminator with a bendy chest. You can't replace it in metal.


A guy I know actually keeps a small mallet with him. He makes it very clear.

Topuch his stuff and a model of yours goes bye-bye. Break something and you have a choice. Either lose your prized model or buy him a nerw one. If it is expensive you do both. Sopmeone made the mistake of dropping his Thunderhawk and it smashed to pieces. Poor bloke lost his Reaver to that hammer. And hqad to buy him a new Thunderhwk.


After that that particular store banned him from life and made him pay for the reaver titan. Or else they phoned the police.

He was a stubborn nerd.

Yes, he was an absolute nutcase nerd. He refused to pay for ther Reaver Titan, even telling the manager where exactly he could put his "pricipals and rules." Then the police came. Took 3 BIG officers to bring him down. He wasdn't a small 10yr old. This was the stereotypical 200lbs 40yr old. Took him down, then got 3 other, BIG men from the store to help carry him to the police van.

He faced charges for destruction of property, verbal assault and physical assault for pimp slapping the manager, and assaulting officers. Permanet ban fropm all clubs 6months in prison, made to pay for the reaver, and a £400 fine, and his bank was told that any transactions to FW or the GW website were to be halted.



Fat deserved it all. He broke one of my sternguard with that mallet. Not the proper thing, just painted Tac marines. I wouyld have torn his head off it had been the models.

Oh man, you would hate having a forgeworld or resin army.

Every time I bring out my army it's "Cool Elysians/Death Korps!" rushes to pick it up and before I can say anything. Snap, they break the model by either picking it by the model rather than the base with a tight grip.

I of course say nothing as I know it's not done out of malicious intent, and my regular opponents usually ask to pick up my stuff. It's when I play in stores and when random people pick up my stuff without asking is when I get sketchy. Private property people... respect it.

I am really fearful of taking my thunderhawk to an apoc game far too many people about. One thing I did think of, does your home insurance cover items away from the house? I know our cameras and pc's are covered but not sure on models

I hate leaving models on the table corner next to me when they're dead. Models in the "dead pile" invaribly get p[icked up by inquisitive kids when they visit thwe store. Luckily the parents normally tell them to be carefulm andf put it down. Would hate to see a kid with ADFHD pick up my mertal Hive Tyrant that has about £20 worth of supwer glue and greenstuff on him. Brole him about 20 times. Once he was in the dead pile, and I turned, pimp slapping him, to the floor 3ft straight down.


"NOOOOOOOO!"

CRASH!

I've never had a model broken by someone, though I have broken my own models several times and as I look over to my favoured Dark Eldar Ravager and it's unfortunate brother I'm annoyed that GW could not of made stronger joints but eh, can't blame them for everything. But he carried a mallet? Wow, that's kinda sad.

Bloody Palms, Carrying Mallets to a LFGS


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Anyways, If someone (by mistake) brushed one of my models off the table (Lets say my Metal Ghaz) and he broke into pieces, I wouldn't make him/her feel bad, Id make them feel like **** inside themselves. I would tell them that it was OK and if you *could* replace that would be great. Make it feel like it was over, but constantly looking at my model with such a face that every time they saw me they would feel the need apologize to me like 100 times a day because if they didn't they would feel bad for the rest of the day and hopefully couldn't sleep properly.

No-one touches my models without asking and having received permission from me first.

I have a simple policy:

You break my model, I break one of your bones.
There are 206 bones in the human body - where would you like me to start?

It's only half a bluff. I've never had it called.
Some people HAVE given me funny looks though - my sense of humour is such that even when smiling, they can't be sure if I'm serious or not.

Give him a slap. People need to respect others' property.

I really don't think getting physical is the right thing to do when a model of yours gets broken, even if it's on purpose. But that's just me.

My scariest moment... A girl once knocked my whole GW case full of metal eldar off a table snapping the hinges and landing upside down. Then she tried to 'help' me by picking it up upside down. It made a noise akin a bag of pirate gold being shaken. I was horrified and told her to just stop. Luckily most of the minis were one piece and aside a from a few dings and some missing arms I made out pretty well. The case took the brunt of it. I was upset at the time, but what was I gonna do? I've never had anyone maliciously mess up my models and I would probably just get them kicked out of where ever we are. Any retribution or anything physical is just plain stupid over replaceable toys.

Bad form man, that's when you say hey no big deal there just models. I'm <name>You want to go get something to eat. You had the perfect opener.

Plus a guilt rider

Guilt has it's uses

I personally only ever pick up to examine a model when its out of play. And I am extremely careful about it.

Still, I do have a nasty tendency to knock over buildings when playing...the buildings with my guys in them that is...

I've broken my own minis countless times. Either on purpose, such as when my devistator miss all 4 missles for the like 100th game in a row, or by accident like all the times I've grabbed my case too quickly and swiped it off the table without checking the seals. But, I played space marines and I was of the belief that plastic is better. I can't recall anyone breaking my models. I through a landraider at a wall once after an argument with a gf. Thing shattered to fragments.

As for the dude (or dudes) with the hammers/mallets... Take a deep breath, move out of moms basement, drop the oreos and take a good long look at yourself. You have brought a hammer to a game store to threaten people with so that they don't touch your toys. Better yet, stay in moms basement and die sad and alone staring longingly at your daemonettes in hopes that one day you'll meet a girl just like them.

Exalted DeffDread's post. I'll be emailing tose words to my friend to pprint off a few copies. We are going to put them on posters around our nearby gaming clubs and stores, because he isn't the only guy to do that. He wasthe only guy to actually follow through.

I like to let people touch my models- shows they think they look good.
On the other hand, if they seriously break it, I'd probably make them help replace it or whatever.


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Deadshot wrote:He faced charges for destruction of property, verbal assault and physical assault for pimp slapping the manager, and assaulting officers. Permanet ban fropm all clubs 6months in prison, made to pay for the reaver, and a £400 fine, and his bank was told that any transactions to FW or the GW website were to be halted.

Whee, justice!

Had a incident once were some guy was looking at my tanks ( 2 baneblades a shadowsword 9 Leman russ ) and he started leaning on my board. I tell him dont lean on it. ( he carrys on) then i say excuse me please dont lean on my board if you damage them your buying new ones! So hes like ok fine . So i go off trying to find my mates bored and when im at my mates bored theres a huge crashing sound i turn around and rush back to my table were hes on the floor with all my tanks and if i recall correctly only 2 of my leman russ were unscaved . my shadowswords main cannon had snapped of and the sponsons were of ( not the actual turrets the things the crew stand while fireing) so i was like '' now give me £750 '' he didnt but the ones that could be fixed were but my superheavies and a couple leman russ he went out and bought new ones.

I was not a happy commisar that day!

Dude you need to be up front with the guy and tell him not to touch unless he asks, and when he asks say NO.

No it was a display thingy before a tournament so i cant really not let them touch.

I am generally pretty forgiving. if someone damages one of my models it would have to be blatantly intentional before I expected them to pay for it. That doesn't mean it wouldn't upset me. I would probably tell them not to much my models any more but I understand mistakes happen.

I run games at historical conventions a lot and so all the players are using my figures. A generally ask them to be careful, not pick up large groups, not eat then touch my figs and so on before we start. Every time I have done so every player has been incredibly respectful of my request. I think if you politely make it clear you care about your models, MOSt players are happy to act accordingly.

chromedog wrote:No-one touches my models without asking and having received permission from me first.

I have a simple policy:

You break my model, I break one of your bones.
There are 206 bones in the human body - where would you like me to start?

It's only half a bluff. I've never had it called.
Some people HAVE given me funny looks though - my sense of humour is such that even when smiling, they can't be sure if I'm serious or not.

Cool xD

Quite frankly I don't care what happens to my models for the most part, there are some I care about like gul'avar, but mostly I couldn't give a (why can't I see the censored emoticon on my phone?) no reaction what so ever, go home and fix it and repaint if nessasary.

Now other peoples stuff that I care about even the lowly grot (or basic land if you play mtg) but that off topic.

I used to carry it in a laptop bag, now i got a case and i do handle everyone's models with care. Your just a bit over protective

Pouncey wrote:I am not looking forward to the first time my Exorcist will inevitably fall to the floor,

No doubt! That metal pipe organ will chop your toes right off if you and not quick enough.

Sarah Phim wrote:

Pouncey wrote:I am not looking forward to the first time my Exorcist will inevitably fall to the floor,

No doubt! That metal pipe organ will chop your toes right off if you and not quick enough.

Emperor's name, I didn't even think of that part!

I'll have to wear shoes or something, instead of my usual socks.

If you can get the FW Excorcist, the one that looks like a Whirlwind, that would be better. It doesn't crush the Rhino, and doesn't slice your foot when it falls. It can alaso be used as a count as Whirlwind or Manticore if needed.

It really depends on how bad it was, if somebody hit it with their elbow and it fell on the ground by accident or something similar i would not be angry most things can be glued back together. But if somebody picked up and smashed my model or something i would be rather angry and depending on the price on the model i would no allow him to leave without some sort of payment. And if it was some dunce kid touching my models without asking i would grab it out of their hands and tell them they cant touch it and keep and eye on them after. I did this once and mother angrily stormed over and was trying to suss me out, asking me why i care about these "toys" so much, then i told her the cost and she clamed up fast and left. I hate kids so much sometimes most of the time the ones who do this are the ones covered in spit, chocolate or who knows what else. And that guy with the hammer what a loser, if he went after my models i would remove that hammer from his hand as quickly and painfully as possible (didn't take martial arts when i was younger for no reason). I am glad i don't have people like this in my area.

I would be fine with him throwing his models around I mean if he breaks them then there his not mine. The only time a friend has broken one of my models was when we where both starting I had glued the stand to my D-fishand my friend dropped a tape measure on it as he was measuring it so I just drilled a hole in it and put the stand in but that didn't work so I just use the landing gears.

Ogryn wrote:@Chowderhead: Thats a bit harsh!

(Sorry 'bout the late response Ogryn, didn't see you! )

Well, it really isn't. My Wolf Lord is Studio Mcvey's Ruby, modified with a actual Space Wolf on the base for WYSIWYG.


Because of the fact that it's a girl with cleavage riding a dinosaur, everyone wants to grab it, touch it, play with it, and hold it. During a small tournament, I was in CC with a unit of Slannesh Deamonettes, and the entire damned thing stopped to watch the "catfight". Some idiot grabbed it by the rider, and it fell to the ground. It didn't break, and I bopped him over the head with my rulebook.

i dunno. i had my realm of battle board at a tourney, and i made it very clear that if it was being used i was one of the players on it. i had no problem rearranging it to create a diffrent layout and gave priority terrain setups to my opponents (other tables were cloth over folding tables) however i had one rule: no drinks on or near my table. this one kid came by with his open coke can... i asked him nice to not be drinking over my table. he went away, came back 30 minutes later and before i could remind him he spilled a small amount on one of the corners. easilly cleaned up, i reminded him again "please no drinks near my table" - guess what not 20 minute later hes back....and this time spilled half his can over a good 1/4 of the board. needless to say his parents ended up buying the replacment. although he did get a nice although rather coke stained battle board out of the deal. i have no clue what condidtion its in now... but my new one now stays at home and away from public events.

edit: should clarify... i usually ask people not to touch my models/terrain/table unless i ok it first. if someone dosent ask and touches or bumps whatever they get a friendly request to be cautious or take drink etc elsewear. but after that - you break/damage it you replace it. the only exception i can really handle is if its a young kid who dosent know better. but even then... as a parent myself i believe you should keep your kids away from other peoples &*^$ especially if its something breakable.

FuryTheBerserker wrote:Lol civilized people... You break a model in my country you get your neck broken Orky people.

Same applies to my country I have seen people engaging in a fistfight because someone broke the other guy's model's arm, intentionally or not.

I think that if the other guy does minor damage, eg. scratching the paint, breaking a minor joint etc. and he does that purely by accident, I would just forgive him and move on. However, if he does something like the OP said (throwing my larger models out of the window) I would ask him to pay for it. If he would refuse to pay, I would probably report to the police (if the model was really expensive). After all, property is property, no matter what.


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DeffDred wrote:I've broken my own minis countless times. Either on purpose, such as when my devistator miss all 4 missles for the like 100th game in a row, or by accident like all the times I've grabbed my case too quickly and swiped it off the table without checking the seals. But, I played space marines and I was of the belief that plastic is better. I can't recall anyone breaking my models. I through a landraider at a wall once after an argument with a gf. Thing shattered to fragments.

As for the dude (or dudes) with the hammers/mallets... Take a deep breath, move out of moms basement, drop the oreos and take a good long look at yourself. You have brought a hammer to a game store to threaten people with so that they don't touch your toys. Better yet, stay in moms basement and die sad and alone staring longingly at your daemonettes in hopes that one day you'll meet a girl just like them.

Agreed. If someone did that to my models he would soon find out that the hammer he was holding is hacking into his brains at an alarming speed.

violence against model breakers i dont agree with. however as i said... you bust up my stuff i WILL make you pay for it. one way or another. to date its happend twice where that was required... once with my battle board, and prior an old DE ravager that a loosing opponent struck and broke when he threw his landraider at it. mind you that replacment was store owner enforced. i didnt really have to do anything.

the end result is that if i spend money and time assembling and painting something, if someone else damages it - they are responsible for righting the situation. either by replacment, repairing or whatever depending on the situation.

If i give someone permission to touch my model/s and they break it well it is my fault as i have given permission, but if someone picked up my model without asking and they break it, they have to replace it.

I'm usually pretty lenient. Part of the hobby is to gawk at other bpeople's cool stuff, so I'm happy when they gawk over mine.

I've had people drop my Obliterators and metal Daemon Prince and send the pieces flying. If they are good modelers, I make them glue it back together/fix the damage. Otherwise, I do it and make fun of them/chastise them, depending on the level of destruction.

greyknights rule wrote:I used to carry it in a laptop bag, now i got a case and i do handle everyone's models with care. Your just a bit over protective

btw this guy is the friend i was talking about can someone please explain to him the differnce between being overprotective and not wanting your models crushed by carelessness

aswell i have to ask if anyone has broken someone els's model and what theve done about it?

ya, i am generally the guy who breaks the stuff, so i have a policy for when i do it.

1. Is it a join-break? if so ill fix it.
2. Is it a major break? if so ill fix it, and pay 20% of the cost of the model as compensation.
3. Is it not repairable? Ill buy a new model, plus give my painting service free of charge (optional).
4. Is the person a better painter than me? Ill buy the new model, and pay an extra 20% of the cost (up to 30$) for the lost paints.

I also find it is far more difficult to help someone repair the damage I have caused if they are a D**k about it.

I'm not that protective, accidents happen.
I tend to be as careful as possible with other people's minis, but if I were to break one, I'd happily pay for it!

As for people breaking my models, I don't mind too much, but if somebody put a foot through a stompa I'd expect some form of compensation

If they accidentaly step on a boy, its alright, I break my own models enough as it is XD I'll let it slip, but if they arse about with them...

I'm not sure what asking people to pay for the model achieves, how often is that really necessary? Most metal models are multi-part and break into these components. They don't need more than a bit of straightening out and re-gluing. Plastic models tend to bounce, resin models can crack, which is rather bad.

If you play in a public place like a shop accidents will happen. Assuming they are just accidents you should suck it up and repair the model.

Only if irreparable damage is caused and there's gross stupidity or maliciousness involved should you get angry or start demanding recompense. Most of the time to be so confrontational would be needlessly escalating a situation in which no harm was meant.

Most of the time people should only handle their own figures unless told otherwise, but in a shop you get ignorant kids. That's what you get in shops that sells stuff to kids. If that's not a risk you're prepared to take I seriously suggest finding somewhere to play that better regulates the sort of people allowed near the tables. It will save a lot of aggro than trying to shout at some kid's mother to buy you new models.

I've never had this problem, thank god. Luckily, my FLGS is seriously the best to ever exist.

Sure, a £3 Bolter marine box will fix up a broken Tac Marine, but when it is a £960 Manta, lets say, which is going to be the star attraction wherever you take it, well, then we will just see how well you suck it up when a wing catches on someones jacket.

Deadshot wrote:Sure, a £3 Bolter marine box will fix up a broken Tac Marine, but when it is a £960 Manta, lets say, which is going to be the star attraction wherever you take it, well, then we will just see how well you suck it up when a wing catches on someones jacket.

Yes, stuff like that gets broken down the shop all the time. Did you see what I said about "irreparable" damage? Most damage can be easily repaired, even metal figures. Rare is the time when a drop will destroy a figure beyond repair meaning a replacement will need to be bought.

If you break my models, even by accident... It would depend on the damage. If it's just an arm or something that comes off, then I'll just fix it. If it's bigger than that, I'll have you buy me a new model. If you are being a jerk about it, my clan will eat you alive.

That being said, if you take a hammer anywhere near my models, I'm pulling a handgun on you.

Okay, seriously now, I won't use a gun (it would be overreacting, I don't have a licence yet and the store doesn't allows firearms anyways) but youre getting hurt. Bad. In ways that would make a Haemonculus feel sick.

I can tell anyone here that if someone picked up my Stompa without permission and dropped it and broke it, i'd expect some compensation.

It is just not the cost of the Stompa, but the paints, the extras that went into conversions and time to build and paint it.

Belexar wrote:Bad. In ways that would make a Haemonculus feel sick.

This idea makes me happy

If the person in question is your friend you should have just told him.

If someone broke my model beyond repair i'd ask them to pay me enough money to either get a replacement piece or the equivalent of all the work and effort i put into the model.

Usually a broken bit is ok,as long as it can be glued back,but if one "part" breaks in two(eg,Lucius' whip breaks of at his hand),then it's a new model or the money up front.

And if I'm really upset about it,it's a good slap for dropping the model to begin with,and a Libre Choatica complete edition to the face if you break something I loved beond repair.

I just do not touch other peoples models, the end.

Simple! you break it you buy a new one! if you don't then... theres a problem!!! which depending on how civil you are could mean anything from never speaking to the person again to kicking there rear end up and down the place!

if someone was really disregarding of the fact that they broke it and refused to replace it in Scotland it most definetaly would end up in a fight...

I don't touch people models period. You want your stuffed moved you can do it. If it breaks its on you. I will say that there is some risk envolved in taking your models to shops to play. Breaks will happen.

I'm actually amused by all the tuff talk though. "you break my model i break your face" kind of stuff.

I can just see the end resolts. You get arrested for assualt and then get to explain to the cop/judge exactly how you got there and why and then they stick you in with the really bad criminals. Who's the tough guy now. Your in bubas house now lol

sora914 wrote:If someone broke your model what would you do?
If someone oblitorated a expensive model what would you do?

If you broke someone els's model?
If you oblitorated someone els's model?

Would all depend on the level of damage. If it is a minor break then no harm no foul. Apologize profusely. I also make sure to *ask* before picking up minis that belong to other people. It is a common courtesy. Some people just don't like others messing with their stuff. Very rare that someone says no, but it makes people happy when you ask first.

If it is a major break and very much my fault I will offer to replace what I destroyed. If someone else did it to one of my models, especially by just grabbing it off the table without permission I would expect them to pay for replacements as well. If they refuse then a stomping with steeltoed boots is in order. If you don't have the money to replace anything you damage don't go messing with other people's stuff! Same thing as applies in a store with fragile items on sale. If you can't afford to buy it then DON'T TOUCH IT!!

Of course circumstances come into the equation too. I will be less cranky and more forgiving with friends who wanted to check out my cool model and it got broken. After all bad things can happen and they are wholly accidental. Not forgiving at all to idiots who grab something off my table in the middle of a game without asking and then proceed to break it, damage its paint job, etc. If that is you be ready to pay up or there WILL be pain involved. As a 6'2" 220lb volunteer fire fighter I can certainly dish out pain when I need/want to. Generally I don't need/want to, but can certainly get the job done if necessary.

Skriker


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wowsmash wrote:I can just see the end resolts. You get arrested for assualt and then get to explain to the cop/judge exactly how you got there and why and then they stick you in with the really bad criminals. Who's the tough guy now. Your in bubas house now lol

Actually it would be aggrevated assault and arrest would depend on the level of damage. You break bones and cause injuries severe enough that a hospital is required you deserve to go to jail and you likely will unless it is a first offense and then probation is more likely. You give someone an old school ass whupping arrest is unlikely; jail would be even more unlikely.

Skriker

Most people I game with know better than to touch each others' models. If you see someone's boogerhook creeping towards your models, a stern "Don't touch that" is usually enough to stop them in their tracks.

It never gets to the point where you need to intervene as long as you are stern in your warnings. They know that if you pick someone's model up and its arm breaks off, then you're probably going to pick them up by their arm and break it off.

I've never had the problem of someone being stupid or obnoxious enough to maul one of mine, but there was an annoying wing on my Chaos Lord that wouldn't stop falling off. Someone gave me some free green stuff because of that

Try liquid Green stuff. I don't trust it though. Its up to you.

It seems to be staying put for now.

my lil brother broke my driago model on accident (the flag part) i have kinda gotten to the point in my life where if a plastic toy i glued together breaks...il glue it back, worst case is that you get make a wounded character objective.

on a side note my Gf threw a shoe at me durring a game of RISK, and it hit my valk in the corner.. just broke the tiny little radar boon. she payed for it WINK

i actually agree with wowsmash and quite amused by all this tough talk. Since there is nearly nothing that can't be repaired on this hobby no matter if it's a tactical marine or a titan by a fall. If it gets stomped or malleted to doom than it is ofcourse another story.
Your model shattered to pieces, well it was the same way you bought it so it can obviously be repaired, the reasonable thing to do here is asking for a repair and not the cost of the model since that is just a low life act similar to ambulance chasing. Only if the guy is incapable of repairing or the damage is overwhelming any authority will grant youa replacement or the cost.
And for the lucious example , i mean really a broken whip and you ask for a new model ? The only thing you would be getting from is a packet of glue and you know what i will even glue it for you as a bonus.

Yeah, look but don't touch is a good policy around OCD types with bad social skills. Its just common courtesy to not touch. But something getting knocked off because of a "gaming accident" (dice hitting it, table getting knocked, tape measure fiasco, bad arm swing), maybe you should leave the stinking Mona Lisa at home.l

Had a friend break one of my crisis suits once.

The little metal part of his tape measure shot off when he retracted it once, taking off the arm of one of my crisis suits in my dead pile.

We couldn't find the arm but I thought it was the funniest damn thing I had seen in a game.

Complete accident. Odds of it happening again are fairly low.

Another time, someone was looking at my Powerfist Kroot (with my permission to touch it. I don't like people touch my models, but if you ask permission, I'll usually let you.)

He dropped it, the "powerfist" broke off. He apologized. I glued the arm back on and shrugged it off with an "accidents happen"

If a model breaks by accident, nothing you can do but Shrug it off and fix it.


If someone just breaks a model of mine on purpose, he is not allowed to touch them anymore.

Nice and simple. No hammers, no fighting. Don't let it get to you. Some people are donkey-caves just trying to get you to fight with them or just trying to get a rise out of you. Best to deal with them with a big smile and a "haters gonna Hate".

If someone starts going through all of your models one by one and breaking them and you are at a FLGS, DO NOT get physical. Get a manager. The ass will be banned(and possibly arrested, like in deadshot's story) and you will be compensated. You get physical then you can get in trouble.


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Leave the fighting to the Models.

When around expensinve things that are really cool but are neither mine or currently affordable by me, I like to keep my hands in my pockets.

I have only ever had someone break one of my models once.

It was one of those fragile spears that come with the Dark Eldar raider. Guy at the store was just helping me clean up, and it just happened to snap off. I didn't see it, I didn't really care. He apologized, and I just shrugged and glued it back together when I got home.

That being said, I used to wonder why all the little kids wandering around the local store seemed to give me a wide berth. Matter of fact, at the time I could only remember my friends who work at the local GW asking to touch my models. Couldn't figure out why for a long time, because I'm generally a pretty sociable and bright person. I always have a good time. I wondered if my models were just ugly.

Then I got an answer from the local manager one day. See, I carry a knife with me on my belt wherever I go. Not a hobby knife, a folding utility knife. It's a self-defense and utility thing. Not to mention it has a seat belt cutter and windshield peg built in, so I worry less about being trapped in my car if I'm ever in an accident. I don't flash the thing around, and I have NEVER drawn it on someone. But apparently carrying the little black knife was enough to make people wary of touching my miniatures. You'd have figured that in a hobby full of sharp pointies, people wouldn't give a second thought to the guy with the knife on his belt.

My brother had the humorous incident of a GW staff eating his Chaplain. Sort of.

He was playing a game against the store manager, and his Chaplain killed... a lot of stuff. The manager picked it up and stuck it in his mouth.

We have no idea why.

Ewww,

a good reply to that situation would be to start saying how you found these great alternative paints that contain lead, but they tend to not chip as easy so the poisoning issue is moot...

I generally let people touch my models but when it comes to little kids I tell them not to touch. The mothers usually shout at me but shut up when they find out the prices of my " little toys"