Some of you may know me from the forums already, while others may have no clue who I am. I am an avid player of Warhammer 40,000 and have been since the 2nd edition of the game, well over a decade and a half of playing this wonderful game and enjoying all aspects of the hobby. I’ve collected many armies over my time playing Warhammer 40,000, but the Tiger Claws/Astral Claws have always been a Chapter that held my curiosity. They were rebels and renegades, leading the largest rebellion of Astartes since the Heresy nearly 10,000 years after.
…The path to damnation is paved with good intentions….
Huron and the Astral Claws fought for the Imperium with Honor and Valor for 5,000 years before being cast out due to the greed of Bureaucracy; embracing the corruption of the warp like many of their brothers had done ten millennia before, in order to survive.
The plan for this army has already been laid out and most of the squads have been designed and bitz set aside well in advance. I sold off some of my other armies and put in a massive order to Forgeworld, of which most arrived today. I will be using Codex: Space Marines as the foundation of this army, along with Huron, Valthax, Sumatris and a custom character based off of Sicarius as the 4 different HQs. The army itself is themed around being the 2nd Company of the Astral Claws/ second demi-legion.
Order: with pictures!
THE BOX!
The Box after I peaked and found missing stuff but put it all back in for a pic (Naughty Forgeworld)
MkII Assault Squad, MKIII Iron Armor, MK IV Maximus Armor, MK V Assault Squad, Red Scorpions Tactical Squad Upgrade (10xMK IV Helm/Torso), 2xRed Scorpion Honor Guard (Amazing Bodies/Champion Heads/Weapons, also includes a full command squad boxed set)
1 of Each type of Bolter, Special Character pack, Special weapons pack, Heavy weapons pack, 2xBoarding Assault Upgrade sets, 4xAstral Claws Shoulder Pads, Astral Claws Terminator Shoulder Pads, Astral Claws Transfer Sheet
Huron, Valthax, A 2nd boarding marine.
2x Contemptor Dreadnought (4xKheres, 2xFist, 2xCyclone), Grey Knights Land Raider Redeemer Kit (It looks so much cooler)
These items will all be used along with a few hundred bitz I sorted and set aside to be used for the project (Leftovers from other FW orders, boxed sets, things I put away, nearly 20 Backpack Cloaks from the old captains ^.^)
THE FLASHY STUFF (Some of it)
The Army
Below is the army composition, the vehicles are already owned by me so in most cases there will be conversion work required (In the case of my Razorbacks, I am converting them all to have a slightly different feel to them, as if Valthax had done some major customizations). Unfortunately, after receiving Imperial Armour Apocalypse Second Edition I think I may be forced to run one Contemptor as a normal Dreadnought in order to fit my other Land Raider Achilles in (So I have 2) because Mortis take up Heavy Support and normal pattern take up normal slots.
I have already begun to experiment with the ideas of the proper coloring, but I will likely do what I did with my Grey Knights which was simple and effective:
#1. Black Basecoat
#2. Drybrush of chainmail from the top down to create recessed areas of shading on the model.
#3. All of the details are picked out on the model. Thinking a regal blue color for the blue.
#4. Highlighting finely with Mithril Silver
#5. Wash of Badab Black over the armor and most detail enough to dirty it up and take away the majority of the ‘shininess’ and leave just enough to be effective.
Progress
This weekend (After my last mid-terms) the first set of models will be going up as I work on them. I plan to complete a single squad at a time, beginning with my 3 tactical squads. I hope you will all enjoy my progress and be able to offer any critique or advice.
Enjoy!
Be an Astral Claws..or Tiger Claw, you sneaky git!
I’m open to modeling a specific marine as anyone who wants, should they request it; just post what you would like to be and if your forum name wouldn’t fit the lore too well (DoctorStrangeLove69) try to give me a first name or something to identify the trooper. All squads will have roster sheets.
If you want to be a Tactical Marine, I will be working on Tactical Squad ‘Claw’ first.
Tactical Squad 'Claw' are known to be one of the first squads into battle and are a generalist unit armed with a pre-heresy missile launcher, pre-heresy flamer & sergeant with combi-melta and power fist.
Astral Claws Battle-Brothers
Battle Brother Jonus Dodanna of Assault Squad Slayer armed with bad@ss sword and pre-heresy bolt pistol (swampyturtle)
Tactical Squad ‘Claw’
Tactical Squad ‘Claw’ are known as one of the Second Companies pre-eminent Tactical Squads, deployed in virtually any engagement in every theatre of war possible. They are all accomplished Veterans and in regards to marksmanship they are known to be on par with the Firsts Sternguard.
Shot of the full squad (Couple backpacks missing, didn't want to run down to my basement for them)
Missile Launcher with spotter
Shot of the squad from behind
Tactical Squad ‘Razor’
Tactical Squad ‘Razor’ are boarding and siege specialists, each member of the squad an expert at short range firefights. Clad primarily in void hardened Mark III and IV plate and armed exclusively with melta weaponry, the bulkheads of capital ships and bunkers crumple like paper.
Fact is, I use the warp to summon these squads in. The truth is in the picture.
Tactical Squad 'Razor' ready for battle.
Another shot of Razor
Yet another shot of Razor
Back shot of the squad
Mortis Pattern Contemptor:
How I had initially magnetized it:
Ready for battle:
In action:
10/27:
Sorry for the lack of updates, I've BUILT most of the army but Forgeworld still hasn't got the rest of my shoulder pads here.... anyways:
Behold,
Captain Corien Sumatris, The Tyrant's Champion:
Side Shot:
Back Shot:
Another side shot:
Thanks for looking
Plan to update this soon with some new stuff! woohoo!
baneofmorgoth wrote:Are you going to be playing them as a standard SM army, or are you going to use them as a CSM army?
I will be using Codex Space Marines. It's meant to be more of an Astral Claws force before/during and right after the Badab War. Not so much chaos corruption or anything.
thats an amazing order right there! Im really enjoying the look and the background. consider this subscribed!
Assault Squad ‘Slayer’
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I'd like to be a part of the assault squad if you can find room. I dont think my username will fit but the name i go by in Dark Heresy may Jonus Dodonna (yes thats a star wars reference)
I cant wait to see more, you plan on naming all of them?
Is your colour scheme going to be based on the IA books or the original RT stuff?
If I ever get my Red Corsairs finished it will be awesome to get a game in and some photos.
The past VS. the future
Long live the Tyrant of Badab!
Hey dude,
Yeah, we will have to have a game when we're both done.
I plan to do mostly the IA9 color scheme with some Tiger Claws marines as well, like the old RT.
I also wil name them all yeah, want in Battle-Brother? lol
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swampyturtle wrote:thats an amazing order right there! Im really enjoying the look and the background. consider this subscribed!
Assault Squad ‘Slayer’
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I'd like to be a part of the assault squad if you can find room. I dont think my username will fit but the name i go by in Dark Heresy may Jonus Dodonna (yes thats a star wars reference)
Sure any preferences on armor (Got all marks available) and weapon loadout? Sgt has power fist & storm shield.
and is it May Jonus Dodanna or just Jonus Dodanna (I got the SW General! Woo)
IdentifyZero wrote:
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swampyturtle wrote:thats an amazing order right there! Im really enjoying the look and the background. consider this subscribed!
Assault Squad ‘Slayer’
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I'd like to be a part of the assault squad if you can find room. I dont think my username will fit but the name i go by in Dark Heresy may Jonus Dodonna (yes thats a star wars reference)
Sure any preferences on armor (Got all marks available) and weapon loadout? Sgt has power fist & storm shield.
and is it May Jonus Dodanna or just Jonus Dodanna (I got the SW General! Woo)
Just Jonus Dodanna , the may part was a typo when i was typing it out differently.
Ive always had a preference for the Mark 8 "Errant Armour" but if you dont like it in an assault squad the Mark 6 "Corvus Armour" is never a bad choice
IdentifyZero wrote:
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swampyturtle wrote:thats an amazing order right there! Im really enjoying the look and the background. consider this subscribed!
Assault Squad ‘Slayer’
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I'd like to be a part of the assault squad if you can find room. I dont think my username will fit but the name i go by in Dark Heresy may Jonus Dodonna (yes thats a star wars reference)
Sure any preferences on armor (Got all marks available) and weapon loadout? Sgt has power fist & storm shield.
and is it May Jonus Dodanna or just Jonus Dodanna (I got the SW General! Woo)
Just Jonus Dodanna , the may part was a typo when i was typing it out differently.
Ive always had a preference for the Mark 8 "Errant Armour" but if you dont like it in an assault squad the Mark 6 "Corvus Armour" is never a bad choice
Any plasma pistol or bolt + Power sword
Ah my post got deleted somehow after I typed it.
I've got a MK VIII torso, any preference on helm, have every single type from MK 2-7 with bionic and crusader style helms also.
I will give Battle-Brother Jonus Dodanna; a really nice sword (cannot do a power sword for normal assault squad guy, however they will double as vanguard at times so there will be a powered effect!).
No way to put a power sword on a guy in the squad, but I could model a guy with a really cool sword! Some mark8 with a pre-heresy jump pack (Old meets new, think I got at least 1 or 2 torsos somewhere). You want a normal style helmet 2 or something cool, I have mk2-VII with bionic heads and the crusader style heads.
that sounds cool! i think i'll go with the normal style helmet. Whatever works though. I cant wait to see the model!
No way to put a power sword on a guy in the squad, but I could model a guy with a really cool sword! Some mark8 with a pre-heresy jump pack (Old meets new, think I got at least 1 or 2 torsos somewhere). You want a normal style helmet 2 or something cool, I have mk2-VII with bionic heads and the crusader style heads.
that sounds cool! i think i'll go with the normal style helmet. Whatever works though. I cant wait to see the model!
I've got a bitz list for your model, might even assemble him ahead of schedule xD
#1. Boarding Assault Mk VII Helmet (Has extra optics and stuff)
#2. Mk VIII 'Errant Armor' Torso
#3. Mk IV 'Maximus Armor' Greaves
#4. Boarding Assault Power Sword
#5. Pre-Heresy Plasma Pistol
#6. Astral Claws Left Shoulder
#7. Studded Right Shoulder
#8. Pre-Heresy Jump pack
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Tactical Squad ‘Claw’ are known as one of the Second Companies pre-eminent Tactical Squads, deployed in virtually any engagement in every theatre of war possible. They are all accomplished Veterans and in regards to marksmanship they are known to be on par with the Firsts Sternguard.
Shot of the full squad (Couple backpacks missing, didn't want to run down to my basement for them)
that was quick for the first squad! I like the guy in the middle with the bolter and the mixture of armour in the first picture. Keep the updates coming!
Tactical Squad ‘Razor’ are boarding and siege specialists, each member of the squad an expert at short range firefights. Clad primarily in void hardened Mark III and IV plate and armed exclusively with melta weaponry, the bulkheads of capital ships and bunkers crumple like paper.
Fact is, I use the warp to summon these squads in. The truth is in the picture.
IdentifyZero wrote:Updates: Tactical Squad Razor is complete
Tactical Squad ‘Razor’
Tactical Squad ‘Razor’ are boarding and siege specialists, each member of the squad an expert at short range firefights. Clad primarily in void hardened Mark III and IV plate and armed exclusively with melta weaponry, the bulkheads of capital ships and bunkers crumple like paper.
Fact is, I use the warp to summon these squads in. The truth is in the picture.
I've finished the building of my first Contemptor Dreadnought, I've since ripped off the arm sockets and magnetized them as well and the feet are also magnetized to the base (not shown right now).
Dog. wrote:Literally the best Contemptor config possible. Well done, can't wait for it to get a lick of paint.
Yeah, it was the rumors of this config that sold me on Contemptors and oh my god, scary but true... I cannot wait to paint this bad boy and the other I just finished today. Next week my fists shoudl arrive to (They were on back order)
Joshh wrote:SIIIIIIIIICK. I need to get a Contemptor now.
Chose a good time, the Relic Contemptor just came out along with the Melta and Powerclaw (Has plasma blaster/gravitron gun to go inside the claw)
Limited Edition Boarding Marine? I'd recognize that shield anywhere! What I'm struggling to pin down is the head. Where did that come from? It almost looks like Cato Sicarius' head.
Joshh wrote:Limited Edition Boarding Marine? I'd recognize that shield anywhere! What I'm struggling to pin down is the head. Where did that come from? It almost looks like Cato Sicarius' head.
It is the Big C's head, sans Ultramarines symbols.
It is my favorite head in the entire space marine range. Couldn't think of one more fitting to use for Corien Sumatris!
They also both have the initial CS. I have a Cato Sicarius stand in with my army as well, I'll post him up later on today. He's also a custom model and I did the Arch Centurion Commodus.
Arch-Centurion Carnac Commodus, Commander of the XXIII Tyrant’s Legion, the Bloody Scourge of Shaprias
I plan to make a retaliator squad to go along with him, but for now in Apocalypse he goes with Sumatris and his Vanguards.
P.S. Forgot to drill his pistol out.
First shot:
Second shot:
Third shot:
Fourth shot:
His cloak and armor were scratched up in order to make it as ragged and battle damaged as possible. His armor also was previously MKVIII from a Grey Knight kit so all of the symbols were filed off as well.
There is another HQ to follow later today when I upload the images, Commander Diomedes. He is based upon Captain Sicarius in terms of rules and is the third of my 'Captain' style HQs for the army with Sumatris and Commodus being the other two. There is also Huron, Valthex and and as yet undecided Librarian based on the Sevrin Loth figure as well as my Master Apothecary, using the rules for Pelas Shan which are posted on the Forgeworld site.
I also have a lot of Cities of Death sprues lying around and I was going to base all of the figures similar to the HQs with the ruined floor sections, pieces of rubble etc.. Just wondering if anyone had any feedback specifically on the basing if I go that route. The HQs are mounted on an entire floor section to help build their presence on the battlefield but most units the rubble would be modelled around how they stand for the most part.
Commodus looks beast! Walking on broken rubble and leaving death and dustruction in his wake! thats one bad How many points do you think you have assembled so far? Is the assault squad gonna be next on the work bench?
swampyturtle wrote:Commodus looks beast! Walking on broken rubble and leaving death and dustruction in his wake! thats one bad How many points do you think you have assembled so far? Is the assault squad gonna be next on the work bench?
Funny but true, I assembled most of the army (infantry) but I forgot that I had the pre-heresy assault arms and stuff until I was doing my HQs so I plan to go back. I also did finish the Assault/Vanguards, but I used my Black Templar Storm Shields and I am going to instead take them off and use my old metal Terminator storm shields so the templar shields do not over-whelm the squad. These are the smaller cross-shaped shield and the normal shield shaped storm shield from the original terminators.
I did make your guy up, but I don't really like the sword he has, but I am still seeing what else I find. Some of the nicer items I tried not to re-use the same torsos, heads, weapons throughout characters/sergeants to keep it unique.
I also did some work on the motorpool for the army, just trying to figure out how to best do the 5 Razorbacks and the Command Rhino I am working on. I plan to use the Stormraven Turrets for 3 of the Razorbacks, the twin linked assaults and twin linked lascannons and I was going to mount the single shot lascannon from the bastion set along wit a pintle mounted twin linked plasma gun for my other two.
The problem I have been running into is figuring out exactly how to cut the Stormraven turret so that I can just put a more automated and enclosed housing over it; or build in marine gunners for those 3 Razorbacks. Ironically, the Damocles Rhino was the easiest as I had a Whirlwind turret kicking around from a lot I got from someone and between the big sensor dish there and the old side armor from the metal vindicator kit and armored back door, it is looking very good.
Asherian Command wrote:Awesome mate! Liking this army even though they are traitors
Thanks a lot. I love them to even though they are traitors.
Update 10/30:
Started painting the first tactical squad 'claw'. I'm about 1/2 done these guys and the lessons I learned in the coloring I plan to use throughout the army will help me with my other squads. The blue takes 3-4 light layers to get the dark color and that was after applying it over a grey base. The gold became a little bright on a few shoulder pads as well, but I was trying different color schemes as I painted.
I plan to clean them up Sunday afternoon and touch up the models with chainmail again to have the armor cleaned up before I give the models a nice wash of badab black.
All in all, I'm amazed I spent as long as I did painting since I've only touched a brush once in the past 7 months and that was to do the Dreadfleet terrain with my wife.
Good night all!
Just to have to add in as well, the Astral Claws transfer sheet looks simply amazing. I've never bothered with transfers, but Forge World made a very nice sheet of stickers!
Thatguy91 wrote:Awesome stuff, cant wait to see more! Kudos
Thanks man, appreciate the encouragement.
10/30: Commander Diomedes
The third of my Captain style HQs is Diomedes. Based upon the very same named hero from the Illiad. His rules are the same as Sicarius aka as counts-as-Sicarius.
I plan to do some more painting today, but for some reason I've been obsessed with hazard stripes and getting them right on all the chain-bayonets and chainswords which is definitely holding me back.
Styrofoam04 wrote:can we get closer pics of the painted units
Yeah, for sure by tonight I will have some decent shots of the units. I'm actually going to start doing some painting now.
Cosmic wrote:That Dreadnought is incredibly cool. These are probably some of the most unique Marines that I've ever seen... keep up the good work!
Thanks mate, my goal was to make sure each marine had their own individual sort of look and personality in each squad. I plan to when I am finished, have a nameplate on each base with the name of the marine and squad they belong to. That is a little bit down the road.
All the encouragement is appreciated guys. I'll be back with more late
swampyturtle wrote:jeez , they look AWESOME Very smooth and the detail is well done. Im envious of your painting skills my friend
Thanks a lot man, I am hoping as my practice picks up again with my lesser squads I'll be doing some superb jobs on my non troops! Going to decal those guys tonight and moveon to the next squad.
Also have dozer blades and extra armor ktis on the way for my 5 custom razorbacks I'm hoping, wooo!
Cosmic wrote:These are looking brilliant, Zero! I like how you have chosen to use the old-school backpacks.
I've just noticed that you've put a link to my blog in your sig. Thank you! I'll do the same now...
Thanks a lot! I'm glad you noticed the use of the 2nd edition backpacks. I tried to use various themes to tie my squads together without deviations in color schemes too much. At present, backpacks and shoulder pad patterns will be how I differentiate the 3 tactical squads; which truthfully seem more like Sternguard..
Thanks for the link man, all support is appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey, does anyone have any advice for applying transfers to shoulder pads? Might sound dumb but I've always invested in shoulder pads with designs and I'm having some issues with transfers... lol mainly in getting them to sit flat.
Before you get them anywhere near the water, make tiny slits on opposite corners of the transfer where you feel the transfer will need to 'bend' around the concave of the shoulderpad. Apply a dab of gloss varnish to the pad, then get the transfer on as quickly as possible as it will start drying almost instantly. Use a scalpel/hobby knife to move it into position, or the top of a paintbrush. I've found the actual brush itself to soak up the water on the transfer and dry it much faster, leaving it stuck in the wrong place.
Check out youtube, there are lots of really helpfull tutorials for transfers.
Dog. wrote:Before you get them anywhere near the water, make tiny slits on opposite corners of the transfer where you feel the transfer will need to 'bend' around the concave of the shoulderpad. Apply a dab of gloss varnish to the pad, then get the transfer on as quickly as possible as it will start drying almost instantly. Use a scalpel/hobby knife to move it into position, or the top of a paintbrush. I've found the actual brush itself to soak up the water on the transfer and dry it much faster, leaving it stuck in the wrong place.
Check out youtube, there are lots of really helpfull tutorials for transfers.
Excellent man, that's exactly the kind of advice I think I needed. I've been using a paintbrush and I found the transfer was as you said, getting dry too fast and sticking in the wrong place.
I'm thinking I'll hold off on transfers until I grab some varnish this weekend to so I can varnish the minis after transfers are applied, because the few I got on, I found one little nick and I lost 1/2 the transfer. Now I remember why I never used these, I suck with them!!!
I'll try to get some resulted this weekend and hopefuly have some gloss to spray on after I am done as well and seal the minis. ^.^
Thanks Dog!
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I've actually been having some issues deciding lately how exactly I want to handle the army. I originally envisioned it as a full mechanized force, which in total at 4500 points had Land Raider (Normal, Achilles, Crusader & Redeemer), 5 Razorbacks, 2 Contemptors and a rhino. I've also been debating having it run as a full drop pod army as I have a total of 8 drop pods available.
My other project is my Black Templars (Which are fun to field both in pods and in tanks) but I've got them sidelined until the new Codex comes out, so I don't want to do much with them.
I've also got what likely seems to be Ultramarines 2nd Company as my next project after my Astral Claws...
So my problem?
I'm not sure exactly what route I want to take with my Astral Claws. I've always enjoyed drop pods and I've used them since 3rd edition. I have also always used my tanks between marine armies, but once I commit them to the silver Astral Claws theme they would only 'look' right with my Grey Knights.
The Astral Claws will likely be my predominant army upon completion, but I'm not wanting to take my entire motorpool and color it all Astral Claws if I would end up using Drop Pods predominantly (Which I find look best without any ornamentation or colours).
I don't play many tournaments anymore, so I am not worried about that and if I did play any, it's no big deal to use parts from my other armies.
What do you guys think, predominantly mechanized with tanks or drop pods?
Reasons why: I see the AC using more tanks because of the background and the way they fight. As a chapter , Black templar are all about the CQB and i see them as using the pod to get into the enemies lines quicker. Where as i see the AC responding to the enemy by overwhleming tanks and mech power.
Im loving the way this P&M is turning out! Keep up the good work!
mikepbullen wrote:This is all some prety amazing stuff!
Thanks Mike! I've been working hard, school has been unfortunately keeping me from doing much right now though. :(
swampyturtle wrote:Tanks for AC and BT use the pods
Reasons why: I see the AC using more tanks because of the background and the way they fight. As a chapter , Black templar are all about the CQB and i see them as using the pod to get into the enemies lines quicker. Where as i see the AC responding to the enemy by overwhleming tanks and mech power.
Im loving the way this P&M is turning out! Keep up the good work!
Good idea Swampy, that was my original thougt for the Claws, I just love drop pods so much, I have a slight fetish with them. Good thing I said drop pods and not DPs, that could have been awkward. xD
At present the tank loadout (not including dreadnoughts) is looking something like:
Pre-Heresy Land Raider
Land Raider Crusader
Land Raider Redeemer
Land Raider Achilles
2xLas/Plas Razorbacks
2xTwin-Linked Las Razorbacks
1xAssault Cannon Razorback
(Although the twin-linked las and assault cannon ones will be weapon swappable) Command Rhino (Modified to look like a Damocles but no real plans to run unless I was using some reserves)
I was also thinking of using some defense line auto-cannons to make some anti-aircraft turrets for the Rhinos for use in Apocalypse settings when I might want to shoot down Valkyries and other annoying things acting as flyers.
Alternatively to, all of the Razorbacks have the capability to mount Predator turrets if I decided to do a mixed deep strike/mechanized apocalypse force.
Ah... so much I want to do but so little time at present.
Also, one more opinion:
I can get my hands on 5 sets of Forgeworld reinforced armor, should I? lol
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Optio wrote:Lots and lots and lots of things to drool over in here, not least youer apinting skills
Thanks dude, I'm hoping to get some more units painted by this weekend. I have to go grab some cans of compressed air from my friend to, which will make painting the vehicles go the fastest I think.
As for the armor, it's tough because the kits new cost as much as a Rhino does here almost and the trade offer is from a guy wanting to give me 5 kits for one of my Forgeworld Land Raider (New) which ammounts to a 20 GBP trade in my favor and it's local. The thing is, it seems weird to trade a friggin land raider for 5 sets of flimsy rhino armor lol.
The ones I can find on ebay are going for 25-30 GBP to so I am thinking if I had to, I could re-sell them.
I will do my best from memory, but I can't recall any in-depth tactica from the IA books regarding the 'Claws force organisation. I do know however that they had a near infinite supply of Rhinos and considered them to be entirely disposable (Vindis, Razorbacks included) . They had the usual low numbers of Termi armour and LRs as they were unable to manufacture these, but padded their assaults with large numbers of bikers and Dreadnoughts.
So I guess it's up to you, if you want a fluff-adherent army then go with the tanks. There were also some really nice non-codex units that Huron designed as well, the Corpse-Takers and Retaliators. Corpse-Takers were squads of Apothecaries tasked with harvesting the gene-seed of enemy Space Marines. Retaliators were Huron's 'right hand', and during the Badab War acted as the spearhead of his assaults. Styling a couple of squads to represent these guys and then giving them a unique Rhino/Razorback could be an idea. Don't forget there are the Tiger Claws as well if you wanted a bit more diveristy, 4500 points can be a lot to paint in the same scheme!
e; I should probably mention that my Carchs are a drop pod assault force, and my Raptors an infiltrate/mechanized force. They both have upsides and downsides, the Raptors have greatly reduced 'stamina' due to lightly-armoured vehicles, fewer and lighter armoured troops. To field enough vehicles for them costs a lot of points, which decreases the amount of well-equipped infantry and Elites you can take.
However they are extremely fast, flexible and can adabt extremely quickly allowing you to create a significant challenge for almost any other opponent without tailoring your list beforehand.
Carchs are a lot less flexible, and have no vehicles except for an optional LR that I take if there is a lot of enemy armour on the field. However due to the cheapness of pods and the lack of vehicles I can fit huge numbers of Terminators and special weapons. I only have two tactics with them though-
1. Screen and tie up mobs with my Hunters, Termis chew through the highest threat targets such as heavy weapons and armour. Dreads hit the flanks and try to split the enemy into three manageable chunks that my Termis can just wade through one by one.
2. Drop pod everything in as close as possible and try to Blitzkrieg; smash straight through the heart of the enemy line and then break them up from within their own deployment zone.
They are both fun, and both are effective in non-tourney games (I don't play competetively), the drop pods would get boring if you played them all the time though. There are is only so much you can do with one-use transports. Mechanized is more competetive, but really you want to field a fun army. A semi-mechanized army with specialised units can be a hell of a lot of fun. If only Razorbacks could have Flamestorms!
e2; Also tanks are way cooler than drop pods. They both suck to paint, but at least with the tanks you have something a lot better at the end that you will actually use. You can always proxy drop pods with bottles/styrofoam/card if you want to try them out.
Dog. wrote:I will do my best from memory, but I can't recall any in-depth tactica from the IA books regarding the 'Claws force organisation. I do know however that they had a near infinite supply of Rhinos and considered them to be entirely disposable (Vindis, Razorbacks included) . They had the usual low numbers of Termi armour and LRs as they were unable to manufacture these, but padded their assaults with large numbers of bikers and Dreadnoughts.
So I guess it's up to you, if you want a fluff-adherent army then go with the tanks. There were also some really nice non-codex units that Huron designed as well, the Corpse-Takers and Retaliators. Corpse-Takers were squads of Apothecaries tasked with harvesting the gene-seed of enemy Space Marines. Retaliators were Huron's 'right hand', and during the Badab War acted as the spearhead of his assaults. Styling a couple of squads to represent these guys and then giving them a unique Rhino/Razorback could be an idea. Don't forget there are the Tiger Claws as well if you wanted a bit more diveristy, 4500 points can be a lot to paint in the same scheme!
e; I should probably mention that my Carchs are a drop pod assault force, and my Raptors an infiltrate/mechanized force. They both have upsides and downsides, the Raptors have greatly reduced 'stamina' due to lightly-armoured vehicles, fewer and lighter armoured troops. To field enough vehicles for them costs a lot of points, which decreases the amount of well-equipped infantry and Elites you can take.
However they are extremely fast, flexible and can adabt extremely quickly allowing you to create a significant challenge for almost any other opponent without tailoring your list beforehand.
Carchs are a lot less flexible, and have no vehicles except for an optional LR that I take if there is a lot of enemy armour on the field. However due to the cheapness of pods and the lack of vehicles I can fit huge numbers of Terminators and special weapons. I only have two tactics with them though-
1. Screen and tie up mobs with my Hunters, Termis chew through the highest threat targets such as heavy weapons and armour. Dreads hit the flanks and try to split the enemy into three manageable chunks that my Termis can just wade through one by one.
2. Drop pod everything in as close as possible and try to Blitzkrieg; smash straight through the heart of the enemy line and then break them up from within their own deployment zone.
They are both fun, and both are effective in non-tourney games (I don't play competetively), the drop pods would get boring if you played them all the time though. There are is only so much you can do with one-use transports. Mechanized is more competetive, but really you want to field a fun army. A semi-mechanized army with specialised units can be a hell of a lot of fun. If only Razorbacks could have Flamestorms!
e2; Also tanks are way cooler than drop pods. They both suck to paint, but at least with the tanks you have something a lot better at the end that you will actually use. You can always proxy drop pods with bottles/styrofoam/card if you want to try them out.
Hey Dog!
The problem with some of the non-codex units, is they were designed for use in the Tyrant's Legion army, which was not the Astral Claws proper during the Badab War as they were not deployed in the way the standing companies were aka non-codex. I do have a unit of Vanguard converted with shields that do a good job representing retaliators to roll around with Commodus however.
As far as Dreadnoughts and tanks go, I have tons; I've never actually stuck myself to one particular theme, usually just adding in as I go and having a flexibility to do a lot and play a big game if I wish of up to 10k points.... lol
I do LOVE painting tanks and dreadnoughts though, I'm getting some compressed air this weekend so I should be doing a bunch of vehicle painting.
I suppose I'll stick with my original plan of an armor heavy force, my other intention with my astral claws was to be able to field them as the Siege Vanguard list in the Imperial Armour 10.
Thanks for the detailed response.
I like the idea of your Carachadons to, sounds like the way I operate my Black Templars. They drop in very close to the enemy and tear them apart in close combat as if they were paper.. gotta love those re-roll to hits in 5th edition. I thought Carachadons would have worked very well as Black Templars as well, given the ability to throw Terminators furious charge etc..
Raptors are cool, I always liked the idea of an all infiltrating space marine army!
I'm still hoping to pick up 2 more vindicators to make 3 and a few more predators and possibly a whirlwind or to to complete the armored task force for apocalypse... also a thunderhawk is 100% my next purchase when I FINISH these models I have.
E: Not much of a proxy person but I got plenty of pods already xD More on the way also... *whistle*
starwarslegacy wrote:Tanks.. cuz im sick of fiting your drop pods
lol
Disclaimer: I really like Forgeworld but these casting issues are starting to annoy me quite a bit. After you send a good ammount of coin on an item, you expect it to be good. In a restraunt, if your food was not what it was supposed to be (your steak had a bite taken out..) you would request another steak, a refund or more depending on the situation. I have once before had to complain to Forgeworld and they were great about replacing the items with issues. We'll see how they are this time after an order that could have paid a mortgage.. *sigh*
Below are the problems that bugged me the most and as such, I hope they will do something about it. It's very annoying to find infantry issues during assembly or vehicle/dreadnought issues when cleaning up and getting ready to paint.
Contemptor Dreadnought: Left leg has miscast, large Horizontal indented line on the left leg, Right leg resin is thin and cracking. Slight miscast on the torso of the model.
Contemptor Dreadnought 2: Left leg has miscast, large horizontal indented line on the Left leg, Left Shoulder has too thin of resin on the front, resulting in cracks and holes in BOTH.
Contemptor fist: Skulls on one fist are completely worn out in terms of detail.
Mk II Assault Squad: Total of 3 jump packs were missing the bottom pieces entirely, this makes them look awkward as they are missing the bottom part of the backpack.
Mk V Assault Squad: Several helmets had resin obscuring detail on the front of the models and bunched up under the helmets.
MKIII Iron Armor: Several helmet grills were filled with resin, obscures the detail.
Boarding Assault Set: Graviton gun was so badly warped it snapped.
Red Scorpions set: The torso with the skull reliquaries in one of the kits had a loss of detail, oddly enough the other one was fine.
Space Marine Character Conversion Set: The Sword was broken.
Guess I'll wait till monday and see if they can send me out at least some of this in replacement. I won't lie, it would be nice to have some more parts to work with, but I'd prefer 100% parts the first time. Then again, my last order (Templar Shields, pads and ven dread stuff) was perfect.
E: Just remembered they are open Saturday morning @ 4AM EST!
Ive noticed that about Forgeworld. When i ordered my elysians -> Phantine models* i got bent lasguns, missing arms, and a few miscast heads. Since im off at uni and dont have a landline to call them and my carrier doesnt do overseas calls it was a hassle emailing them every other day. Eventually they just stopped responding to my email even after i sent them pictures and numbers of the missing cast and spure. Its left a bitter taste in my mouth about FW and i am hesitant to order from them again.
* The way i completed my models was by contacting a fellow member on another 40k board and giving them a list of the missing parts. Since they had a large elysian arny , they sent me the few missing parts for free. Sometimes the community really helps out a member in need
swampyturtle wrote:Ive noticed that about Forgeworld. When i ordered my elysians -> Phantine models* i got bent lasguns, missing arms, and a few miscast heads. Since im off at uni and dont have a landline to call them and my carrier doesnt do overseas calls it was a hassle emailing them every other day. Eventually they just stopped responding to my email even after i sent them pictures and numbers of the missing cast and spure. Its left a bitter taste in my mouth about FW and i am hesitant to order from them again.
* The way i completed my models was by contacting a fellow member on another 40k board and giving them a list of the missing parts. Since they had a large elysian arny , they sent me the few missing parts for free. Sometimes the community really helps out a member in need
Yeah, they are good but I am annoyed. Sorry you had that experience bud, that sucks...
I wasn't thinking on Saturday and spent a total of FOUR HOURS on hold for them Saturday and every time my call went through, it would hang up. Suffice to say... this was well over $100 in mobile fees and I didn't realize till my phone got cut-off.......
I plan to call them back tomorrow and tell them how annoyed I am both at the messed up parts and what happened Saturday. It seems like they had some phone issues.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Well, I stayed up all night to talk to Forgeworld, after another 40 minutes of long distance from my cell.. (Another $40 + what I ended up being charged saturday... it's slowed I could have got 1/2 a thunderhawk.....
They are going to recast the individual pieces and make moulds for them to send me the replacements. I found that pretty funny, it will take them 7-10 days. They even tried to do the same for my Contemptors, offering to recast the individual pieces and I declined that firmly. After the cash I've spent with them, I would expect the models replaced and the good news is, they are. There was no way I was going to rip apart assembled pieces to replace pieces with too thin of resin and damage the entire model.
I guess they are not as good with replacements as they once were. I remember the days where you would call in and they would just send you the full kits if you had any issue.
On another note, I have been thinking of my next non-marine army. I'm liking the idea of an Imperial Guard mixed unit special forces airborne cavalary with all valkyries and vendettas. I might go with the Elysian list all mounted up but have a squad of hostile enviroment cadian, a squad of death korp, a squad of elysian, squad of tallarn, vostroyan, catchan etc... I just like the idea of 9ish Valkyries/Vendettas in 1500-2000 point army.. lol
Capitansolstice wrote:SIgghhhhh! I love FW based armys, they are so cool. But they make me sad because of my pathetic plastic marines.
Well, I stayed up all night to talk to Forgeworld, after another 40 minutes of long distance from my cell.. (Another $40 + what I ended up being charged saturday... it's slowed I could have got 1/2 a thunderhawk.....
They are going to recast the individual pieces and make moulds for them to send me the replacements. I found that pretty funny, it will take them 7-10 days. They even tried to do the same for my Contemptors, offering to recast the individual pieces and I declined that firmly. After the cash I've spent with them, I would expect the models replaced and the good news is, they are. There was no way I was going to rip apart assembled pieces to replace pieces with too thin of resin and damage the entire model.
I guess they are not as good with replacements as they once were. I remember the days where you would call in and they would just send you the full kits if you had any issue.
On another note, I have been thinking of my next non-marine army. I'm liking the idea of an Imperial Guard mixed unit special forces airborne cavalary with all valkyries and vendettas. I might go with the Elysian list all mounted up but have a squad of hostile enviroment cadian, a squad of death korp, a squad of elysian, squad of tallarn, vostroyan, catchan etc... I just like the idea of 9ish Valkyries/Vendettas in 1500-2000 point army.. lol
That's right, stick it to them and make them own up to their mistake At least you were able to talk to someone (unlike me )
IG airborne is a really cool theme and list! Im working slowly on my Phantine 44th Skyborne (1 squad and 1 valk at a time with the tanith) too and i highly recommand the elysian models. The idea of a mixed squad airborne assault from each of the differnt regiments is a cool idea. The Catchan theme also fits in with the air mobile theme as well (al la Vietnam). Marbo is already Rambo if you mix the letters around If you do it, it be cool to have a visual theme of them decending upon a new world / Battlezone (blown up tanks , barbed wire, ect on the bases). I hope this idea comes to fruition
Airborne Guard are the best. If I ever get my Guard army rolling, it'll have Valkyries and air-dropped Hellhounds as my main line units.
FW Elysians are absolutely a joy to paint, I have a SWS Flamer/demo charge squad and they were probably the most fun to paint of any models I own. Do it for sure.
Capitansolstice wrote:SIgghhhhh! I love FW based armys, they are so cool. But they make me sad because of my pathetic plastic marines.
Well, I stayed up all night to talk to Forgeworld, after another 40 minutes of long distance from my cell.. (Another $40 + what I ended up being charged saturday... it's slowed I could have got 1/2 a thunderhawk.....
They are going to recast the individual pieces and make moulds for them to send me the replacements. I found that pretty funny, it will take them 7-10 days. They even tried to do the same for my Contemptors, offering to recast the individual pieces and I declined that firmly. After the cash I've spent with them, I would expect the models replaced and the good news is, they are. There was no way I was going to rip apart assembled pieces to replace pieces with too thin of resin and damage the entire model.
I guess they are not as good with replacements as they once were. I remember the days where you would call in and they would just send you the full kits if you had any issue.
On another note, I have been thinking of my next non-marine army. I'm liking the idea of an Imperial Guard mixed unit special forces airborne cavalary with all valkyries and vendettas. I might go with the Elysian list all mounted up but have a squad of hostile enviroment cadian, a squad of death korp, a squad of elysian, squad of tallarn, vostroyan, catchan etc... I just like the idea of 9ish Valkyries/Vendettas in 1500-2000 point army.. lol
That's right, stick it to them and make them own up to their mistake At least you were able to talk to someone (unlike me )
IG airborne is a really cool theme and list! Im working slowly on my Phantine 44th Skyborne (1 squad and 1 valk at a time with the tanith) too and i highly recommand the elysian models. The idea of a mixed squad airborne assault from each of the differnt regiments is a cool idea. The Catchan theme also fits in with the air mobile theme as well (al la Vietnam). Marbo is already Rambo if you mix the letters around If you do it, it be cool to have a visual theme of them decending upon a new world / Battlezone (blown up tanks , barbed wire, ect on the bases). I hope this idea comes to fruition
Yes!!!!! I love it, the barbed wire and stuff on bases, I'll totally do it, thank you for the idea.
I really like the Hostile environment Cadians as well, they would look cool fighting side by side with respirator elysians.
As soon as I catch up on some projects and seminars, I'm hoping to spend a few solid days over the weekend painting and updating my blog here with some new content though.
As for Forgeworld, they have dissapointed me. To the point, I plan to begin casting my own pieces, since in Canada as long as it's for personal use it's legal. ^.^
Joshh wrote:Airborne Guard are the best. If I ever get my Guard army rolling, it'll have Valkyries and air-dropped Hellhounds as my main line units.
FW Elysians are absolutely a joy to paint, I have a SWS Flamer/demo charge squad and they were probably the most fun to paint of any models I own. Do it for sure.
Damn that sounds pretty badass, air dropped hellhounds. Run them as the bane wolf or whatever it is called, bye bye power armor
Please let me know when you do get your guard rolling, I'd be interested to see it. would you plan on getting Skytalons to drop the Hellhoudns?
Joshh wrote:Airborne Guard are the best. If I ever get my Guard army rolling, it'll have Valkyries and air-dropped Hellhounds as my main line units.
FW Elysians are absolutely a joy to paint, I have a SWS Flamer/demo charge squad and they were probably the most fun to paint of any models I own. Do it for sure.
Damn that sounds pretty badass, air dropped hellhounds. Run them as the bane wolf or whatever it is called, bye bye power armor
Please let me know when you do get your guard rolling, I'd be interested to see it. would you plan on getting Skytalons to drop the Hellhoudns?
I'll probably run a Hellhound and Devil Dog for a 1350 list, the latter because my army is a little short on >6'' anti-tank. I'm packing as many flamer/heavy flamer templates into the army as I can, because my friends play drop assault Marines, footslogging Orks and gribbly Nids (muhahaha!)
By air-dropped I mean the models will be converted to be lightweight and (in fluff) carried by cargo net underneath my Valkyries. On the battlefield the squadron will deploy as normal. I also scratchbuilt a Leman Russ Vanquisher to be lightweight enough to be air-dropped in fluff for my long-range anti-tank purposes.
Sadly I only have one squad of guys and the Russ to my name, but hopefully over my Christmas holidays I'll add a Valkyrie, Devil Dog and Sentinels to that.
Joshh wrote:Airborne Guard are the best. If I ever get my Guard army rolling, it'll have Valkyries and air-dropped Hellhounds as my main line units.
FW Elysians are absolutely a joy to paint, I have a SWS Flamer/demo charge squad and they were probably the most fun to paint of any models I own. Do it for sure.
Damn that sounds pretty badass, air dropped hellhounds. Run them as the bane wolf or whatever it is called, bye bye power armor
Please let me know when you do get your guard rolling, I'd be interested to see it. would you plan on getting Skytalons to drop the Hellhoudns?
I'll probably run a Hellhound and Devil Dog for a 1350 list, the latter because my army is a little short on >6'' anti-tank. I'm packing as many flamer/heavy flamer templates into the army as I can, because my friends play drop assault Marines, footslogging Orks and gribbly Nids (muhahaha!)
By air-dropped I mean the models will be converted to be lightweight and (in fluff) carried by cargo net underneath my Valkyries. On the battlefield the squadron will deploy as normal. I also scratchbuilt a Leman Russ Vanquisher to be lightweight enough to be air-dropped in fluff for my long-range anti-tank purposes.
Sadly I only have one squad of guys and the Russ to my name, but hopefully over my Christmas holidays I'll add a Valkyrie, Devil Dog and Sentinels to that.
That is a pretty sweet Leman Russ man, I really love the use of the old rhinodoors on the front as a hatch. Did you make the turret to? It looks really nice.
Sounds like a solid plan on the models for x-mas to, were you going to get drop sentinels or just normal ones?
Joshh wrote:Airborne Guard are the best. If I ever get my Guard army rolling, it'll have Valkyries and air-dropped Hellhounds as my main line units.
FW Elysians are absolutely a joy to paint, I have a SWS Flamer/demo charge squad and they were probably the most fun to paint of any models I own. Do it for sure.
Damn that sounds pretty badass, air dropped hellhounds. Run them as the bane wolf or whatever it is called, bye bye power armor
Please let me know when you do get your guard rolling, I'd be interested to see it. would you plan on getting Skytalons to drop the Hellhoudns?
I'll probably run a Hellhound and Devil Dog for a 1350 list, the latter because my army is a little short on >6'' anti-tank. I'm packing as many flamer/heavy flamer templates into the army as I can, because my friends play drop assault Marines, footslogging Orks and gribbly Nids (muhahaha!)
By air-dropped I mean the models will be converted to be lightweight and (in fluff) carried by cargo net underneath my Valkyries. On the battlefield the squadron will deploy as normal. I also scratchbuilt a Leman Russ Vanquisher to be lightweight enough to be air-dropped in fluff for my long-range anti-tank purposes.
Sadly I only have one squad of guys and the Russ to my name, but hopefully over my Christmas holidays I'll add a Valkyrie, Devil Dog and Sentinels to that.
That is a pretty sweet Leman Russ man, I really love the use of the old rhinodoors on the front as a hatch. Did you make the turret to? It looks really nice.
Sounds like a solid plan on the models for x-mas to, were you going to get drop sentinels or just normal ones?
Thanks man! I appreciate the compliments. I'll probably touch it up a bit over my Thanksgiving break from university - do highlights, touch up the camo and weather the tracks a bit.
As for the sentinels, probably just normal ones :( I cannot tutor enough children to afford a pure Forgeworld army and pay for school. They'll be armed with missile launchers, but I'll probably doodle around with them to make them seem lighter and more airmobile. Something with the canopy roofs like what FW did with their Drop Sentinels. This IG army is going to be my baby, more than my Marines will ever be.
Thanks man! I appreciate the compliments. I'll probably touch it up a bit over my Thanksgiving break from university - do highlights, touch up the camo and weather the tracks a bit.
As for the sentinels, probably just normal ones :( I cannot tutor enough children to afford a pure Forgeworld army and pay for school. They'll be armed with missile launchers, but I'll probably doodle around with them to make them seem lighter and more airmobile. Something with the canopy roofs like what FW did with their Drop Sentinels. This IG army is going to be my baby, more than my Marines will ever be.
Sounds like a fun conversion project, I would probably chop the legs down a bit and bulk out the canopy a little more if it was me. I'm kind of sad I've devoted myself to another marine project when I'm getting so excited for Imperial Guard.... :/
Capitansolstice wrote:speaking of forge world, has anyone ever tried out their Renegades? I am going to start an X-Mas army of them!
A guy I know has an army of them along with plague zombies, they look pretty good. I don't know how variety there is with the models though. Definitely a cool army to start..
Once again, nothing to do with my Astral Claws but one of my other marine projects, behold...
A full battle company and more in... BITZ!!!
I have to give a HUGE HUGE HUGE Thank you to my friend Cosmic for supplying this. This is an entire Space Marine Battle Company + Scouts + terminators + Dreadnought..... all sorted out in bags, all taken off sprues, cleaned of all mould lines, bolters drilled.
Cosmic, thank you for doing all of the hard work for me and hooking me up with this amazing project. Presently, this is going to become the Ultramarines 2nd Company as depicted during the Fall of Damnos. God, they will be sexy! (For Ultras.. )
CHECK IT OUT!!!YAAAA!! THANKS COSMIC!!!
Also, it seems this blog is kind of evolving into more of my personal space to share my Hobby and modelling sort of things.
So, just throwing it out there, I've also started my next army! It's an Elysian drop list, but not using many Elysian troopers.
I ordered some amazing sculpts from Studio McVey, some great minis from Urban War and a couple of other very good guard stand-ins to begin. I do plan to also have the majority of troops being hostile environment Cadians with at least a single squad of Elysians but mostly the army will have variety. The air force is looking to be something like 4 Valkyrie, 3 Vendetta and 3 Vulture @ 3k points with exactly 100 soldiers! I'm excited to start this one to.
Long story short, I friggin love 40k and I tend to start and resume things a lot. ^.^
Wow that's a nice package. Even had all the bad parts done for you such as clipping and mold line removal. Lucky...wish all GW stuff came like that so all you had to do is assemble and paint. Looking forward to seeing your Ultras' painting progress.
Eggroll wrote:Wow that's a nice package. Even had all the bad parts done for you such as clipping and mold line removal. Lucky...wish all GW stuff came like that so all you had to do is assemble and paint. Looking forward to seeing your Ultras' painting progress.
xD Thank you very much. I wish much the same thing, that's why I was so keen to get my hands on this box of uber goodness. It means I can assemble and paint when I begin on them and oh, it will be glorious.
Looks like I might not be doing much for awhile, very stressed and depressed and my wife is being pretty heartless to the point I've developed anxiety which I never had before and had several attacks tonight. The first? After I got so upset I kicked my box of astral claws and bitz across my room and still cannot find the pieces.
I'm sad. More sad that my wife couldn't care less I almost died.
This has nothing to do with this, just needed to talk somewhere..
IdentifyZero wrote:Looks like I might not be doing much for awhile, very stressed and depressed and my wife is being pretty heartless to the point I've developed anxiety which I never had before and had several attacks tonight. The first? After I got so upset I kicked my box of astral claws and bitz across my room and still cannot find the pieces.
I'm sad. More sad that my wife couldn't care less I almost died.
This has nothing to do with this, just needed to talk somewhere..
That's concerning to hear IdentifyZero. If it helps, just talk mate. Is there anything that we can help with?
IdentifyZero wrote:Looks like I might not be doing much for awhile, very stressed and depressed and my wife is being pretty heartless to the point I've developed anxiety which I never had before and had several attacks tonight. The first? After I got so upset I kicked my box of astral claws and bitz across my room and still cannot find the pieces.
I'm sad. More sad that my wife couldn't care less I almost died.
This has nothing to do with this, just needed to talk somewhere..
That's concerning to hear IdentifyZero. If it helps, just talk mate. Is there anything that we can help with?
Thanks my friend, I appreciate the offer, just time mostly I guess. I'm not well.
Capitansolstice wrote:You almost died? sucks. Sorry
Thanks, sad to say but this is just a problem that is going to get worse as long as my wife continues being how she is. It sucks, but since the summer, I've developed anxiety... because of my wife. Honestly, 40k is one of the only things that keeps my mind occupied. It's very sad, but true. When she pulled her crap last night I was in the middle of a research paper, was supposed to submit it this morningbut well, not much to submit...
Aghhhhh, thanks for the concern though guys, to all who replied and PMed me.
I'll try to update this space with something relevant soon I hope.
Wow, very cool work IdentifyZero, I really like the older armour and Heresy era equipment. Sorry to hear about the trouble with the missus...best of luck with the way ahead.
James23105 wrote:Wow, very cool work IdentifyZero, I really like the older armour and Heresy era equipment. Sorry to hear about the trouble with the missus...best of luck with the way ahead.
Thanks a lot James, I appreciate the compliments. Thanks for the good wishes also!
Update 11/14:
So, after much debate I've decided that I will be doing my Astral Claws still and they will be getting a Thunderhawk... just not now. I spent their Thunderhawk budget.
While I don't have the models on hand yet I've pretty much built my Elysian Drop Troop List (Using no Elysians, I dislike them kinda). This is what I've managed to purchase thus far and my rough plan for the army: (I got all the Valkyries very cheap, thanks to all who helped me with this)
6 NIB Valkyries
2 Bitz Valkyries (The bitz to make the valks, no extras, won some cheap auctions for bitz)
1 Vendetta (Built)
2 Vultures (New from Forge World)
3 Vendetta Kits (Forge World)
I also ordered a bunch of hostile environment Cadians, I've ordered quite a few independently sculpted minis for squads and characters from companies like Studio McVey as well as Urban Mammoth and Raging Heroes etc..
The 2500 Point Army List is looking something like:
Command Squad with Valkyrie
Infantry Platoon
Command Squad
2xInfantry Squad
(They Ride in the Vendettas)
4 Vet Squads riding in Valkyries
3 Vendettas (Each occupying a single FO Slot)
2 Vulture Gunships (Twin-Linked Punisher Cannons, each occupying a Force Org Slot)
Yes, there is an extra Vendetta but I haven't decided how I would expend the force to 3000 points as a pure air list. Probably the vendetta, a special weapons squad in the initial platoon and a deep striking platoon with some Special Weapon Squads and a scanner unit or maybe another HQ. Anyways.. not a big deal right now, as I've aquired everything I need to do the army at 2500 points.
Thanks to my bud Elspedo and an army trade we did (That's where the assembled Vendetta is from) I also have 3 chimeras and 2 leman russ available to me in my force if I want to use a normal IG list.
I'll post pictures as I get the items and begin work.
Later on tonight? Check back for a quick guide on stripping (Not with a pole) as I strip some grey knights to sell to my friend.
This is gonna be cool! I cant wait to see your air cav wing If you got any extra's you should model up a squad of tanith from cadians to connect our armies. It be kinda cool. Have you though about fluff for the regiment of your air cav wing or are you just using the pure elysian back ground?
Check out my P&M for the 2 updates ive put in ,major stuff happening over there
swampyturtle wrote:This is gonna be cool! I cant wait to see your air cav wing If you got any extra's you should model up a squad of tanith from cadians to connect our armies. It be kinda cool. Have you though about fluff for the regiment of your air cav wing or are you just using the pure elysian back ground?
Check out my P&M for the 2 updates ive put in ,major stuff happening over there
I'll definitely check it out right after dinner and post something *grin*.
I was thinking of a squad of Tanith, but only if I can find the girl Tanith model in the squad and I cannot find a single squad for sale with her. No clue what is up with that....
As for background, currently I was thinking of them being an Elite Terran Regiment with the very best in equipment available to them (Hence the Hostile environment gear, valks/vendettas/vultures). Maybe write some background that has the regiment itself being in service since the days of the Heresy etc.. not sure yet but I thought they would make a cool combined force with any of my marines in drop pods.. lol
So yeah, I'll be avoiding the Elysian background, too bad they aren't drugged up like they were in IA4...
Capitansolstice wrote:WOOHOO IDZ is back! A thunderhawk?! are you insane!.... I always wanted one! Will you paint the insides?
Yeah mate, when I get the Thunderhawk I will be painting all the insides and using LEDs. I considered it heavilly vs this other army and I decided that it would best be a project to complete after I've tried out the techniques and things I'd like to use on it first. Thunderhawks are one of the coolest looking 40k models, but right now, most of my buds have nothing that could present much of a threat so it's only a modelling project, whereas guard I could play with.
I plan to do running lights on all my gunships for my Guard which will be a good way of finding the best methods to do it with my Thunderhawk (Which I can do some more impressive lightning things with likely).
It might seem insane to blow all of this cash, but I do a healthy ammount of trading/selling to offsetthe costs of many things and pick up things to sell.
I cannot wait to do it, I've been talking about it RL forever. I'll be started as soon as I get my models delivered and finish the paid work I have (Draigo and Dreadknight). I'll post pictures of those as I work on them.
To be honest, I realized, it was Forge World themselves who killed the Astral Claws for me at present. Weeks waiting for pieces missing from my original shipment, a hassle for replacement parts, things missing out of the bags, broken bitz... just made my excitement and fervor die down as I began to consider other projects. I still like their story and appearance (And the work I did) but I just think all those gunships would look positively awesome.
This is some awsome stuff man. Oh by the way one married man to another, I know what ya going through pm me if you ever got to blow off some steam. Because trust me you can't do with them them when there hot and heated it just leads to crashing on you dad's couch for a couple of days.
porkchop806 wrote:This is some awsome stuff man. Oh by the way one married man to another, I know what ya going through pm me if you ever got to blow off some steam. Because trust me you can't do with them them when there hot and heated it just leads to crashing on you dad's couch for a couple of days.
Thanks a lot dude. I'm just worried when The Old Republic comes out in December I won't do much 40k for awhile. :/
This post may be a bit of a shoutout to several manufacturers who have helped me along with my Air Cavalry, later on I'll take pictures of the miniatures myself. More shoutouts will follow:
Studio McVey is run by Mike McVey whom many might recognize as a former member of the GW Team. He's an extremely nice guy, a very talented designer and very cool to talk to.
In resin, this guy is a badass commander looking guy from one of the factions in Sedition Wars and I was very surprised and happy to see that bonus (Pretty big bonus) in my order. I urge anyone with a chance to check out their work and the game they are designing, Sedition Wars.
I'll post detailed pics of the figures later for anyone to check out.
Urban Mammoth
I also ordered a bunch of stuff from another amazing company, called Urban Mammoth run by a great guy named John. They do the Urban War & Urban Metropolis games. Their figures also fit in perfectly with GW stuff and as soon as my order arrives from him, I'll do a post up.
Im loving all of this espically Commander Vokker Dargu. He'd make one bad inquistor
The female vanguard troopers as well as the Female Conscript Terrorist look really good too for sci fi. Its interesting that they fit perfectly with 40k.
Are you gonna be using non GW models for your air cav or just some non GW stuff?
swampyturtle wrote:Im loving all of this espically Commander Vokker Dargu. He'd make one bad inquistor
The female vanguard troopers as well as the Female Conscript Terrorist look really good too for sci fi. Its interesting that they fit perfectly with 40k.
Are you gonna be using non GW models for your air cav or just some non GW stuff?
Ether way, This is looking
There is just a mixture of non GW stuff that probably accounts for 1/3 of the army, the bulk of the troops are hostile environment Cadians with elysian weapons because they look so damn cool.
Urban Mammoth has some awesome guys I might add in when I do my harker/vet squad for infiltrating just because of how awesome their snipers are.
I'm mostly done collecting though, just waiting for stuff to arrive. I've got the same female commissar as you have (I ordered 2 of her for some reason xD) and the Raging Heroes Kapitan and a bunch of other stuff so all of the infantry has some character and differentiation befitting an ELITE force.
swampyturtle wrote:Im loving all of this espically Commander Vokker Dargu. He'd make one bad inquistor
The female vanguard troopers as well as the Female Conscript Terrorist look really good too for sci fi. Its interesting that they fit perfectly with 40k.
Are you gonna be using non GW models for your air cav or just some non GW stuff?
Ether way, This is looking
There is just a mixture of non GW stuff that probably accounts for 1/3 of the army, the bulk of the troops are hostile environment Cadians with elysian weapons because they look so damn cool.
Urban Mammoth has some awesome guys I might add in when I do my harker/vet squad for infiltrating just because of how awesome their snipers are.
I'm mostly done collecting though, just waiting for stuff to arrive. I've got the same female commissar as you have (I ordered 2 of her for some reason xD) and the Raging Heroes Kapitan and a bunch of other stuff so all of the infantry has some character and differentiation befitting an ELITE force.
That'll be sweet with the hostile environment cadians. add in the elysian weapons and they'll look damn cool!
i'll have to look into urban mammoth, see if theres any potential.
I thought about getting two (1 for a commie and 1 for another go at making Adrastia from DOW:II Retribution) but i didnt have enough cash. The raging heros kapitan is pretty cool but i wasnt sure on the scale.
Im excited to see it all assembled. Ive been working on some home made terrian that im hoping will work for my table top battles here soon. its just items ive found to be useful so nothing exciting. Maybe one day i'll take pics of it.
Exciting and waiting with great interest to see where this goes next!
swampyturtle wrote:Im loving all of this espically Commander Vokker Dargu. He'd make one bad inquistor
The female vanguard troopers as well as the Female Conscript Terrorist look really good too for sci fi. Its interesting that they fit perfectly with 40k.
Are you gonna be using non GW models for your air cav or just some non GW stuff?
Ether way, This is looking
There is just a mixture of non GW stuff that probably accounts for 1/3 of the army, the bulk of the troops are hostile environment Cadians with elysian weapons because they look so damn cool.
Urban Mammoth has some awesome guys I might add in when I do my harker/vet squad for infiltrating just because of how awesome their snipers are.
I'm mostly done collecting though, just waiting for stuff to arrive. I've got the same female commissar as you have (I ordered 2 of her for some reason xD) and the Raging Heroes Kapitan and a bunch of other stuff so all of the infantry has some character and differentiation befitting an ELITE force.
That'll be sweet with the hostile environment cadians. add in the elysian weapons and they'll look damn cool!
i'll have to look into urban mammoth, see if theres any potential.
I thought about getting two (1 for a commie and 1 for another go at making Adrastia from DOW:II Retribution) but i didnt have enough cash. The raging heros kapitan is pretty cool but i wasnt sure on the scale.
Im excited to see it all assembled. Ive been working on some home made terrian that im hoping will work for my table top battles here soon. its just items ive found to be useful so nothing exciting. Maybe one day i'll take pics of it.
Exciting and waiting with great interest to see where this goes next!
It goes to rant time.....
I hate when people waste my time with trades. Whether it's backing out, wanting to change the terms or flat out offering me next to nothing.
$5 for Sevrin Loth?
$10 for terminator squad?
Like seriously, what do people smoke...
Also, I feel unless there's some big reason not to (One person is brand new here, never posted) that there is no reason for equal value trades not to ship out at the same time. Tracked/Signed For/Insured. What is the problem. I do not know.
Personally, I feel dakka is lacking in so many departments when it comes to trading it isnt even funny. There system is flawed, their admin isnt (and cant) doing much. Frankly its made me skeptical of trading on here.
Now look at 40kOline's system be using my profile as a example:
Clearly, you can see see that ive had good trades, and if you click on the trade count (2) sign there it'll tell you in details whom bought, when, and what. It even allows you to leave feedback! That is a great system to use for trading. It holds people accountable.
Now as for shipping, i'll ALWAYS take the benefit of the doubt and ship first. I have NO intention of being called a lier, a scammer, or a con artist. So i'll ship first but only if the person has a similar commitment to the site (IE: not someone whom just joined and posted 1 post). It has to be fair. both parties should ship at the same time with tracking if possible. however, some people are suspious and ive run a foul some. If your offering forgeworld stuff, that is even a bigger indication that you have something that your not gonna wanna get screwed on in a trade. (cause FW is big $) I'd be pissed but it is the internet. Sometimes the best we can do is hope that things work out and if they dont, try to resolve them.
What i do:
1) make the trade
2) acknowlegde i got the package and that the other party got the package.
3) ONLY then do i spend the $ they sent me or open the package they sent me
I want all partys to be happy with the trade. if not, it only leads to bad blood.
swampyturtle wrote: Personally, I feel dakka is lacking in so many departments when it comes to trading it isnt even funny. There system is flawed, their admin isnt (and cant) doing much. Frankly its made me skeptical of trading on here.
Now look at 40kOline's system be using my profile as a example:
Clearly, you can see see that ive had good trades, and if you click on the trade count (2) sign there it'll tell you in details whom bought, when, and what. It even allows you to leave feedback! That is a great system to use for trading. It holds people accountable.
Now as for shipping, i'll ALWAYS take the benefit of the doubt and ship first. I have NO intention of being called a lier, a scammer, or a con artist. So i'll ship first but only if the person has a similar commitment to the site (IE: not someone whom just joined and posted 1 post). It has to be fair. both parties should ship at the same time with tracking if possible. however, some people are suspious and ive run a foul some. If your offering forgeworld stuff, that is even a bigger indication that you have something that your not gonna wanna get screwed on in a trade. (cause FW is big $) I'd be pissed but it is the internet. Sometimes the best we can do is hope that things work out and if they dont, try to resolve them.
What i do:
1) make the trade
2) acknowlegde i got the package and that the other party got the package.
3) ONLY then do i spend the $ they sent me or open the package they sent me
I want all partys to be happy with the trade. if not, it only leads to bad blood.
Yeah brother, that's exactly the thing, if it wasn't Forge World brand new kits worth $100 I wouldn't worry too much because the other person in this case, doesn't have negative feedback. The thing is, as you noted, if possible, both people should always ship out if possible unless there is a really good reason not to. To me, if I offer to ship out same time; it is me saying, hey, I trust you and you should trust me to, we're both gamers trying to swap some stuff for other stuff we want.
When I make that offer and the person then changes their mind later and decides if I don't ship first, no deal, it leaves a VERY sour taste in my mouth.
It essentially, feels as if, despite my goodwill and trust I've extended towards the other individual; they're either:
A) Implying I'm dishonest by wanting me to ship out first.
B) Along with A, it's insulting to me, when I've offered fair trade terms from the get-go.
C) It makes me feel like there is an ulterior motive.
I'm not saying this is always the case, btu man, do backouts and people who treat me like I Want to con their toy manz annoy me. Seriously... I have $$$ I don't want to steal your plastic manzlol
Cosmic wrote:Trading isn't the best on Dakka, but the flow of visitors really helps. Barter Town is also very good.
As for what to do next: do what you REALLY want to do next, none of them have to be finished tomorrow.
Keep it up mate!
Btown is pretty good but I prefer Dakka because it's a community.
People know each other from more than just trading. Generally, up until recently I never looked at the overwhelmingly long topic called reputable traders on dakka; I just look at someones reg date, post count and if they are a regular on the site who comes here often; they are a part of the community.
I'm generally more suspicious of people who don't belong to the community and just come on a site to trade (For example Btown, it's only trading) as there are less reprecussions to causing problems. On Dakka, someone I find is less likely to scam someone because it would alienate them from the site and the community. People who do not belong or post, won't feel the same way and don't care for the most part (not always), just most scammers I see are a new member who has only posted on the trading forums trying to get people to do army swaps, then someone is mad they got scammed when it should have been obvious. xD
As for the army to work on!
I would just like to get an army finished instead of working on 2-3 at a time and never completing a project. I figured the one more people would be interested in, would help motivate me to work on it.
Capitansolstice wrote:Well, I think that it all will boil down to what you like the most, that is always what happens!
Lol, as most of my gaming buddies know I like too much and get really into collecting an army.
I started guard once earlier in the year (Did a wicked set of trades RL for it) and then because I disliked the models I had gotten, I ended up trading them off for new stormravens.
My Grey Knights I started by sheer fluke, I was replying to classifieds ads in kijiji (ebay classifieds in canada) and some guy had this huge GK army deal when they first came out and I offered him some insanely low price and he said "Will you give me $20 more?" and I said sure.. (This was 5am) and he agreed. Later told me he was drunk and hadn't slept yet, this guy became a good friend and sold me Warhammer for cost from his store until he recently closed it until he re-opens. I did offer to pay him more for the GK when I realized he was losing cash, but as he said "Nope, a deal is a deal."
Out of any army, I think I focussed on those the most and painted them very quickly for an Apocalypse Tournament and have since sold both halves of the army...
I also scored a great deal on Dark Eldar after the new release (But it was about 5000 points of old models) and after completely wtfkilling people with them, I decided if I play DE I'd prefer the new models. Sold them for 4x what I paid by a fluke (I had them listed for sale for 2 months online and changed the price in an ad one night for a joke when I relisted, 30 minutes later.. this guy had to have them, even paid me gas to deliver.. xD).
I also had a Space Wolf army all NiB from 3xBattleforces that I had traded a local guy for, I traded him bitz... bitz to convert his thousand sons into GKs... I am not kidding. It was like 50 storm bolters and a PAGK box set worth of force weapons for 3 Space Wolf battleforces. I don't know why he didn't just go buy a few PAGK box sets. I really do not....
Also, while it's not an army I am working on presently, I do have about 5000 points of Black Templars in a pair of large army cases that are what I do tend to play with. Most of them have been unfinished sadly but in 4th edition, they were the only army I played and with FW Drop Pods.
My other force, is also, marines again and consists of a Deathwatch Strike Team of about 50 Deathwatch Marines and it used to be what I played in most 5th edition tournaments with Codex: Space Marines.
Irony of the above? I had been out of 40k for a few years until this January and in December, I sold all of my Forge World drop pods cheap and then from getting my 40k stuff together to sell, I once more got back into the hobby.
My other armies since 2nd edition: Space Wolves (first army), Dark Angels Ravenwing (sold them in 3rd edition, I now have another Ravenwing army here I'd like to sell as cool as they are).
As for what I like, even now as I've finished collecting the miniatures for this Imperial Guard army, I've been thinking about Dark Eldar still, contemplating those Ravenwing, thinking of woring on my Black Templars.. just maybe and also wondering if I should do my Astral claws or Battle Company. I'm just fickle like that, I like way too much.
Also as of this weekend, I 100% have all the miniatures/vehicles purchased and traded for my Imperial Guard.
Ebay Sweet deal on 26 kaskrin (With 6 plasma guns lol) and a tauros vehicle (Didn't need it but hey) for $60
16 of the new metal stormtroopers for $26
Trades Vulture Gunship and 10 Original Beret Stormtroopers
Next step, working on the 12 Gunships (5 Valkyrie, 4 Vendetta, 3 Vulture) and the infantry. Most of my friends I play with are pretty excited to see this army and play with it, ecspecially since it is not marines.
Wow, thats alot! I understand the spur of the moment buying, I bought around 150 dollars of FW chaos upgrades, but then forgot that I needed minis to upgrade So I bought a battleforce, and now am on my way to 2000+ points!
Capitansolstice wrote:Wow, thats alot! I understand the spur of the moment buying, I bought around 150 dollars of FW chaos upgrades, but then forgot that I needed minis to upgrade So I bought a battleforce, and now am on my way to 2000+ points!
Haha, that's pretty epic. What are you going to work on with them?
Capitansolstice wrote:sorry for being dense, but I dont really understand the question
Sorry my bad for not being clear, what army are you making with them?
Automatically Appended Next Post: lol... Failure is waiting for 1 hour watching auctions in a foreign country only to be told you cannot bid when you try to bid snipe @ 10 seconds...
Anyways, I'll post some pictures of what I am working on for a client today, just a brief preview:
Kaldor Draigo - Have created a base with cities of death pieces, plan to get Draigo about 1/2 - 3/4 done this evening.
I also have a Dreadknight to work on for him, but I'm definitely going to airbrush that to save overall time. I thought of airbrushing Draigo but I don't have a good enough brush to be do fine detail with, maybe I'll invest in one next (would be smart with all I buy and work on).
I did also kind of lol that nobody wants to see the 2nd Company Ultramarines so far.
Thats not failure, try getting outbid for a 5 man team of real tanith models at the last .2 secs. I about threw my computer.
The grey Knights will be cool to see. Draigo and the dreadknight are a mean team together. I found this video on 40knation and since then have wanted to make one of these chimera's for my inquistors, It just looks bad ass.
Capitansolstice wrote:No I dont to GS Kolinsky sable? 6? 30 bucks?
Nice score man!
Yep got Rigger size 4 and 1, Round pointed 6, 4, 2 and 00. Thought it was a pretty good score to since I had considered buying the 'Eavy Metal tin with the 2 brushes for $50... lol
Capitansolstice wrote:I saw that the eavy metal brushes were $50 WTF is that?!
The tin is really nice... xD It's shiny and stuff and it's made by GW which instantly raises the value.
As for the brushes, I thought (In my stupidity) that they were probably worth it until I actually started looking up prices. Granted, some of the same types of brushes are very pricey so it's possible that they are worth it, as much as any GW product is.
It's just a shame it's so much, if the tin/brush set was under $40 I'd definitely have grabbed it since brushes cost like $10 anyways....
I will let you know how these brushes are, hope they are not synthetic, because it says genuine kolinsky sable hair blah blah blah
Below is just a bit of background I've written up for my Imperial Guard. I have never really seen anyone do a Terran Regiment and given that all of my guardsman are equipped in specialized gear (All Hostile Environment, Stormtroopers, Kaskrin + other misc stuff) riding in Valkyries/Vendettas; it seemed fitting that they would come from a world that had a good chance of having some very well armed troops. It also allowed me to develop a bit more character and personality with the officers and sergeants, as each of them will represent a family line that has served in the Imperial military since the Great Crusade if not longer.
The army for the most part, as mentioned before will use the Elysian list, but can also carry over to the normal IG Codex if need be, but doesn't fare as well there.
Let me know what you think.
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Terran XIII Regiment
While the Imperial Guard are often considered the ill-equipped and unsung heroes, the regiments of Terra; the center of the Imperium are among the most well armed fighting forces in the galaxy. Benefitting from their close proximity with the forges of Mars, the Terran Regiments are equipped with the finest in Wargear. Many of these regiments are reserved, but some like the Thirteenth are deployed to the front lines of the Imperium’s most dangerous conflicts; often fighting side by side with the Inquisitorial Ordos’ or the Adeptus Astartes.
The Thirteenth Regiment favours a particular style of warfare very dissimilar to the majority of their counter-parts, the Thirteenth are officially designated for Airborne operations and maintain a full squadron of twelve gunships per company. Unlike most Regiments, these assets, are under their direct control, rather than that of the Imperial Navy. Before serving in the Thirteenth regiment it is common to serve in another Terran regiment first before requesting transfer, due to the additional training requirements required. Almost contrary to this, most of the officers within the Regiment come from families with a long-tradition of service to the Regiment which traces its roots back before the founding of the Great Crusade.
Commonly deployed as a full company, it is operational procedure for a mixture of Valkyrie and Vendetta gunships with the veteran troopers of the company to perform a rapid insertion to neutralize high priority targets. The rest of the company, will arrive via grav chutes to hold and secure ground, while Vulture gunships provide close range fire support. To say that the Thirteenth has mastered the art of the Blitzkrieg would be an understatement, conducting surgical strikes and crippling the enemy command structure; they specialize in winning the battle before the enemy even realizes it has begun.
Due to their specialized training and equipment, soldiers within the regiment are rarely considered expendable and it is due to this that their Officers are often loathe to waste lives without regard and fight wars of attrition as is common in many other regiments. Instead the officers of the Thirteenth have learned to spend the lives of the men and women they command with a great deal of reverence. Better to live and fight another day then die a pointless death.
Its very welll done and has alot of potential for conversions, characters and background to it. The idea of them fighting since the great crusade is a very neat idea and one that i highly approve of I also like the fact that its got a command that understands the values of human lifes and the ability to fight another day. That element seems to be missing too much in 40k.
I have never really seen anyone do a Terran Regiment
Oh i have and trust me, it wasnt excatly what i felt was "Terran". Standard cadian troopers with a fancy paint coat doesnt equal terran. Yes i realize that my tanith are basically cadians modified to look tanith but i put alot of work into filing, GS, edging out cloaks and finding new bitzs ect. This guy just used standard cadians unmodified. To me it felt lazy or undone like he had given it only half his effort. At the time that was before the harzard enviroment items from FW came out. Since then, ive figure that as long as it looks like something besides your standard run of the mill cadian and has the right "look" and effort (read: FW items, conversions, extra (insert awesomeness here)) then it'll be done right. In the end though, its only us (the modelers) that gotta like them right?
my quote from back when:
For a Terran Regiment, i think using the plain cadian models would be a mistake. This is Terra, Craddle of mankind, home to billions of souls, epicenter of the imperium of man. I think that the guardsmen from Terra would be well armed, well trained, and very elegant. cadain parts thrown in i think would ruin the match of the look. Gold and white would work maybe then if you want to use those colors.
The posters reply though seemed to give good ideas (which i'll add here and hope you dont mind )
I don't know, now that I think about it, if you read the descriptions of what Terra is supposed to actually be like - clogged with a hundred billion people, many of them pilgrims in desperate poverty - I think they'd have more in common with the troops of other hive worlds like Armageddon, with plenty of Ecclesiarchy support as well as psykers, since every sanctioned psyker is trained on Terra. Although rather than wearing respirators like the Steel Legions, they'd probably just be equipped with mass-produced standard-issue gear like the Cadians. You just couldn't equip the hundred million or so troops they'd send out to fight every year otherwise. Which is good, because Cadians are what I have.
I have to imagine living on Terra is like living in a planetary-scale combination of the Vatican, the Pentagon and the Department of Motor Vehicles - a totalitarian bureaucratic nightmare.
Luna is the center of the Imperial Navy, right? I'd have to imagine many of the military-minded folk of Terra would join the Navy in preference to the Guard, but the gangs that inevitably take over the lower portions of every hive world would probably get sent off to die as infantry, unless they were lobotomized and turned into servitors. Rather than being shining lords from the cradle of Mankind I'd think they'd be the underclass of the great capital - like the mobs that rioted in ancient Rome for bread and circuses, or the sweepings of London's pubs that found themselves press-ganged into the army and sent to fight halfway around the world. It makes me think of Haven from the Honor Harrington books - much of the tribute sent to the homeworld by the colonies goes to feeding the ever-expanding mob, which does little productive work itself but needs to be appeased at all costs.
Hope this has been helpful! I really cant wait to see where this goes
Its very welll done and has alot of potential for conversions, characters and background to it. The idea of them fighting since the great crusade is a very neat idea and one that i highly approve of I also like the fact that its got a command that understands the values of human lifes and the ability to fight another day. That element seems to be missing too much in 40k.
I have never really seen anyone do a Terran Regiment
Oh i have and trust me, it wasnt excatly what i felt was "Terran". Standard cadian troopers with a fancy paint coat doesnt equal terran. Yes i realize that my tanith are basically cadians modified to look tanith but i put alot of work into filing, GS, edging out cloaks and finding new bitzs ect. This guy just used standard cadians unmodified. To me it felt lazy or undone like he had given it only half his effort. At the time that was before the harzard enviroment items from FW came out. Since then, ive figure that as long as it looks like something besides your standard run of the mill cadian and has the right "look" and effort (read: FW items, conversions, extra (insert awesomeness here)) then it'll be done right. In the end though, its only us (the modelers) that gotta like them right?
my quote from back when:
For a Terran Regiment, i think using the plain cadian models would be a mistake. This is Terra, Craddle of mankind, home to billions of souls, epicenter of the imperium of man. I think that the guardsmen from Terra would be well armed, well trained, and very elegant. cadain parts thrown in i think would ruin the match of the look. Gold and white would work maybe then if you want to use those colors.
The posters reply though seemed to give good ideas (which i'll add here and hope you dont mind )
I don't know, now that I think about it, if you read the descriptions of what Terra is supposed to actually be like - clogged with a hundred billion people, many of them pilgrims in desperate poverty - I think they'd have more in common with the troops of other hive worlds like Armageddon, with plenty of Ecclesiarchy support as well as psykers, since every sanctioned psyker is trained on Terra. Although rather than wearing respirators like the Steel Legions, they'd probably just be equipped with mass-produced standard-issue gear like the Cadians. You just couldn't equip the hundred million or so troops they'd send out to fight every year otherwise. Which is good, because Cadians are what I have.
I have to imagine living on Terra is like living in a planetary-scale combination of the Vatican, the Pentagon and the Department of Motor Vehicles - a totalitarian bureaucratic nightmare.
Luna is the center of the Imperial Navy, right? I'd have to imagine many of the military-minded folk of Terra would join the Navy in preference to the Guard, but the gangs that inevitably take over the lower portions of every hive world would probably get sent off to die as infantry, unless they were lobotomized and turned into servitors. Rather than being shining lords from the cradle of Mankind I'd think they'd be the underclass of the great capital - like the mobs that rioted in ancient Rome for bread and circuses, or the sweepings of London's pubs that found themselves press-ganged into the army and sent to fight halfway around the world. It makes me think of Haven from the Honor Harrington books - much of the tribute sent to the homeworld by the colonies goes to feeding the ever-expanding mob, which does little productive work itself but needs to be appeased at all costs.
Hope this has been helpful! I really cant wait to see where this goes
Thank you for the compliments as always my friend.
Ever since they released the Kaskrin models, they were the one set of Guard I really liked and then FW did the Hostile environment which is pretty much the same thing and I knew one day I would do a guard army centered around them. I see the Cadian wargear as being the standard of Guardsman everywhere, but I felt like a Terran Regiment would be very well armed. While the stuff posted by the other gent is good, you have to figure..
The High Lords of Terra and everything else, the Golden Throne that is on Terra (Earth) that I'm sure hive style conscript regiments are not the norm. They probably have PDF regiments ready to be called into service, but given the world they are from, I would expect some of the best gear. Regardless, it's a great excuse to create a very elite looking guard army where even the guys in the normal infantry platoon look like hardened veterans!
The hostile environment gear + the elysian weapons should help to distinguish them a lot.
The good news for me, is there is a light at the end of the tunnel where I will begin work on these guys soon. Just waiting on a few more things in the mail. Otherwise, got my dremel and magnets ready to build some valks in a week or so. xD
P.S. Say bye to my two contemptors, they were my only auctions to sell. Made a bit of profit. ^.^
Thank you for the compliments as always my friend.
Ever since they released the Kaskrin models, they were the one set of Guard I really liked and then FW did the Hostile environment which is pretty much the same thing and I knew one day I would do a guard army centered around them. I see the Cadian wargear as being the standard of Guardsman everywhere, but I felt like a Terran Regiment would be very well armed. While the stuff posted by the other gent is good, you have to figure..
The High Lords of Terra and everything else, the Golden Throne that is on Terra (Earth) that I'm sure hive style conscript regiments are not the norm. They probably have PDF regiments ready to be called into service, but given the world they are from, I would expect some of the best gear. Regardless, it's a great excuse to create a very elite looking guard army where even the guys in the normal infantry platoon look like hardened veterans!
The hostile environment gear + the elysian weapons should help to distinguish them a lot.
The good news for me, is there is a light at the end of the tunnel where I will begin work on these guys soon. Just waiting on a few more things in the mail. Otherwise, got my dremel and magnets ready to build some valks in a week or so. xD
P.S. Say bye to my two contemptors, they were my only auctions to sell. Made a bit of profit. ^.^
Rereading my post it seems i came off a bit harsh (which i had feared and reconsidered posting it) but it wasnt my intention to do so.
I do think you've taken a completely differnt path from what the gent in that topic was doing and the FW additions and looks will make this Terrian Regiment looks amazing While i might not agree that cadian gear would be used by everyone, i do agree it would be the "standard" of what a guard reigment should have and be like. I agree as well that a guard regiment from terra would be well armed (and very deadly)
I also agree with your statement about the conscript regiments. i dont see them being the norm on terra. if anything i'd see them as how you posted in your fluff. elegant,proud, almost stubborn in being the center of the imperium, the cream of the best guard regiments in the galaxy so to speak. Best gear, best training, ect. I think it'll translate well into the models and the Fluff!
Hostile environment gear + elysian weapons will distinguish them alot and make them very unique.
As ever, I await updates with great interest and will be following this thread
Thank you for the compliments as always my friend.
Ever since they released the Kaskrin models, they were the one set of Guard I really liked and then FW did the Hostile environment which is pretty much the same thing and I knew one day I would do a guard army centered around them. I see the Cadian wargear as being the standard of Guardsman everywhere, but I felt like a Terran Regiment would be very well armed. While the stuff posted by the other gent is good, you have to figure..
The High Lords of Terra and everything else, the Golden Throne that is on Terra (Earth) that I'm sure hive style conscript regiments are not the norm. They probably have PDF regiments ready to be called into service, but given the world they are from, I would expect some of the best gear. Regardless, it's a great excuse to create a very elite looking guard army where even the guys in the normal infantry platoon look like hardened veterans!
The hostile environment gear + the elysian weapons should help to distinguish them a lot.
The good news for me, is there is a light at the end of the tunnel where I will begin work on these guys soon. Just waiting on a few more things in the mail. Otherwise, got my dremel and magnets ready to build some valks in a week or so. xD
P.S. Say bye to my two contemptors, they were my only auctions to sell. Made a bit of profit. ^.^
Rereading my post it seems i came off a bit harsh (which i had feared and reconsidered posting it) but it wasnt my intention to do so.
I do think you've taken a completely differnt path from what the gent in that topic was doing and the FW additions and looks will make this Terrian Regiment looks amazing While i might not agree that cadian gear would be used by everyone, i do agree it would be the "standard" of what a guard reigment should have and be like. I agree as well that a guard regiment from terra would be well armed (and very deadly)
I also agree with your statement about the conscript regiments. i dont see them being the norm on terra. if anything i'd see them as how you posted in your fluff. elegant,proud, almost stubborn in being the center of the imperium, the cream of the best guard regiments in the galaxy so to speak. Best gear, best training, ect. I think it'll translate well into the models and the Fluff!
Hostile environment gear + elysian weapons will distinguish them alot and make them very unique.
As ever, I await updates with great interest and will be following this thread
Nooooo! I didn't take anything as harsh at all man. I always enjoy your responses, I look forward to them; you and Solstice always reply.
I just finished making a project carousel for my guard though, I took a display rack and covered up the fronts and backs to turn it into a place I can store and sort bitz for whatever I am currently working on. At present, it's all uber neat and sorted and looks pretty good, considering I had thrown out all my nice boxes and had to use scrap ones to make the inserts. I'll post some pictures up later, might inspire someone.
Also, another error from FW, yes, another.. two of my Hostile Environment Melta troops are severely deformed, like missing 1/2 their arms kind of deformed. lol
darn you and your holiday rushing forge world!!! I cant wait to see updates IDZ!
Also for forgeworld just put "using for competition soon, please double check for miscasts and errors"
they actually will check your models!
Capitansolstice wrote:darn you and your holiday rushing forge world!!! I cant wait to see updates IDZ!
Also for forgeworld just put "using for competition soon, please double check for miscasts and errors"
they actually will check your models!
That's a good idea, I do make a request every time they make sure there are no errors but it seems like they do not, despite any assurances of 'we checked it over'.
I'm hoping to have some real updates after this weekend, got The Old Republic to mess around with..
Automatically Appended Next Post: Still toying with the color scheme, was thinking bleached bone or shadow grey for the vehicles, although I am not sure.
Like an urban regiment?
The book I am reading "Tales of Hersey" says that the Emperor's fortress is in the Himalayas and the guards wear greys and browns with snow camo
Yeah. I've always liked Shadow Grey but Bleached Bone is one of those colors that looks really nice when evenly painted. Whatever color I do the vehicles, I want to insure I do the fatigues the same.
Haven't read that book yet, but the color scheme makes sense for the Himalayas.
Capitansolstice wrote:yeah, Maybe do a quick test mini?
Definitely, I also debated using both colors but one for veteran fatigues and the other for the rest of the army. I won't be able to start testing it out until I grab soem cadian box sets to actually attach to the torsos so I'll figure it out in the mean time lol.
I planned to do the fatigues and carapace armor two different colors and have the armor match per squad, to make them easier to pick out.
Yeah, If you do a different colored shoulder pad for each squad that would look destinguished ie: squad 1 is red squad 2 is turquoise ect.
Also are you sculpting extra armor?
Capitansolstice wrote:Yeah, If you do a different colored shoulder pad for each squad that would look destinguished ie: squad 1 is red squad 2 is turquoise ect.
Also are you sculpting extra armor?
Not a bad idea either, I usually do something similar with my marines so I want to break it up a bit.
No plans to sculpt extra armor, every mini in the army has carapace armor modelled already (Kasrkin, Stormtroopers, HE Cadians & the Sedition Wars stuff) or something close to, if anything I'd have to try to down armor for the infantry platoon. lol
I might do some GS cloaks or something, but I haven't ever been good with GS. Good with other green stuff, but that kind, is not sculpted, but smoked...
Just been playing The Old Republic this weekend. If anyone plans to play when it comes out and wants to join a fun guild, let me know or just search for 'Saviour' and apply, I believe we're still the only guild with that name. After today, back to school and Warhammer.. xD (and my wife somewhere in there, she gets time to... so she thinks)
Rogue Wolves wrote:Some awsome stuff here! I think i need to change my vote from Ellysians to Astral Claws because i love the conversions here
Thanks a lot man. It seems to be a pretty close set of votes between the two, poor Sicarius and his 2nd company... lol
I'm pretty much done collecting everything for my guard regardless (except a few tanks for normal IG Leafblower) the only problem is one of my eBay auctions I bougt has been cancelled, no contact with seller and I think it was fraudulent whic his weird cause it was just 25 Kasrkin and a Tauros assault vehicle, what a weird thing to scam lol
Rogue Wolves wrote:Some awsome stuff here! I think i need to change my vote from Ellysians to Astral Claws because i love the conversions here
Thanks a lot man. It seems to be a pretty close set of votes between the two, poor Sicarius and his 2nd company... lol
I'm pretty much done collecting everything for my guard regardless (except a few tanks for normal IG Leafblower) the only problem is one of my eBay auctions I bougt has been cancelled, no contact with seller and I think it was fraudulent whic his weird cause it was just 25 Kasrkin and a Tauros assault vehicle, what a weird thing to scam lol
heck if you want some kasrkin i got 10 at home im looking to off for some =I= stormies or FW elysians They dont fit the look of my army but i've held on to them just because i use them. they've been stripped and are looking for a good home.
Im also looking to off some ratlings for cadian snipers.
Both of those will be up for grabs when i get home. but i'd figure i ask you first.
I really like the background for your Imperial Guard! Very elite, as they should be. I'd also have thought that they'd be accompanied by many priests, as they're from the holiest planet in all the Imperium! Anyway, just an idea. Cool stuff!
Rogue Wolves wrote:Some awsome stuff here! I think i need to change my vote from Ellysians to Astral Claws because i love the conversions here
Thanks a lot man. It seems to be a pretty close set of votes between the two, poor Sicarius and his 2nd company... lol
I'm pretty much done collecting everything for my guard regardless (except a few tanks for normal IG Leafblower) the only problem is one of my eBay auctions I bougt has been cancelled, no contact with seller and I think it was fraudulent whic his weird cause it was just 25 Kasrkin and a Tauros assault vehicle, what a weird thing to scam lol
heck if you want some kasrkin i got 10 at home im looking to off for some =I= stormies or FW elysians They dont fit the look of my army but i've held on to them just because i use them. they've been stripped and are looking for a good home.
Im also looking to off some ratlings for cadian snipers.
Both of those will be up for grabs when i get home. but i'd figure i ask you first.
I don't have any stormis or elysian to trade, but I got my kaskrkin models covered basically with something else I found at a deal. xD Thanks for the offer though, I will also let you know what elysian weapons and stuff I have left if any, when I'm done!
Cosmic wrote:I really like the background for your Imperial Guard! Very elite, as they should be. I'd also have thought that they'd be accompanied by many priests, as they're from the holiest planet in all the Imperium! Anyway, just an idea. Cool stuff!
Thanks dude!
One of the things I did when I started selling my SoB is keep 1 of each superior to serve as my priests. ^.^ I thought they would look good for priests or in this case, priestesses.
Long time no see. I got swamped last year with school and RL issues and haven't had much time for the hammer. Heck, if you check my gallery you will notice about 40 pictures I uploaded last year for a battle report I didn't get time to finish.
I am hoping to get back into my 40k stuff, but for now, I'm having a lot of RL problems and need to sell a ton of my stuff unfortunately. 2011 I overbudgeted Warhammer and now I need to ditch a lot.
I hope to start back on my project log soon though, as soon as I have time. How are your things going?
P.S - Please check out my swap shop thread, I need $$$ badly and I have great stuff listed you won't find from anyone else:
My stuff is going great, Sorry to hear that your RL is in the way, that always sucks. Will talk to the parents and see if I can help you with your liquidation
Capitansolstice wrote:My stuff is going great, Sorry to hear that your RL is in the way, that always sucks. Will talk to the parents and see if I can help you with your liquidation
Yeah, I'll hook you up if you want some stuff. ^.^
If you had any Guard stuff in your trade thread I'd take it off your hands. But seeing as I'm getting rid of my Marines to focus on Guard, I can't really buy much.
Joshh wrote:If you had any Guard stuff in your trade thread I'd take it off your hands. But seeing as I'm getting rid of my Marines to focus on Guard, I can't really buy much.
I just have that Vostroyan army for sale. I don't really want to get rid of my hostile environment cadians, elysian weaponry or vultures but they're all new still lol.
Funny story, I don't want to get rid of the HE Cadians so bad, I turned down $60/10 as they sit from my friend who always buys stuff off me. It's just too much of a pain to replace FW stuff. When I have to sell something, everyone ends up thinking the price on the FW site is the final price while neglecting everything that happens after you click add to cart: (Credit Card Foreign Exchange Fees, Shipping, UPS Brokerage fees, Customs fees which are 13% in addition to the brokerage. My last order from FW cost me over $100 to clear customs after spending $400... which was ridiculous. I got a brokerage fee of $30 from UPS which makes no sense since FW is supposed to be covering the shipping costs but hey lol
Sorry about the rant. xD
Truth be told: I forgot to pay my insurance last month and I have about a week before they try to take the money out again so I'm a bit desperate to get rid of a lot of things at once preferably. Don't ask how I am also entirely broke, it's just stupidity. You heard me.. stupidity. :/
I miss working on them, as I miss 40k in general. I still pop in @ Dakka everyday, but 2012 has been rough. The ruinous powers of Chaos, already stole my marriage from me and corrupted my wife into the sweet temptations of Slaanesh.. time to purge the heretics with bolter and flamer, with chainsword and fury! err um yeah.. real life. cannot do that.
I miss working on them, as I miss 40k in general. I still pop in @ Dakka everyday, but 2012 has been rough. The ruinous powers of Chaos, already stole my marriage from me and corrupted my wife into the sweet temptations of Slaanesh.. time to purge the heretics with bolter and flamer, with chainsword and fury! err um yeah.. real life. cannot do that.
Sorry 2012 has been so hard on you man
Hopefully it'll all get better and you'll be able to come back a new. Honestly, i havent touched my minis in a while ether. School has been terrible this semester (3 classes in 1 day and the other ones are spread out or at odd hours, [who the hell starts a class at 3:25 ?] ) anyway I still want to do that advisor swap with ya, but i went home this christmas and found my parents had thrown out the paints cause my little brother got into them and got them everywhere on the carpet so it might be a while coming once i get back into the swing of modeling. Plus the idea of filing down 100+ cadian shoulder pads on my tanith isnt a fun idea. I think ive done like 5? hahaha.
So much shame on my part.
Hopefully things will look up though still wanting to play SWTOR with ya. Let me know when your on.
As this blog has popped up again, I'd like to take the time to write just how short and unconcerning my previous post was. Really, it doesn't sound like you're having at all a good time, and I am very sorry to read it. The quote from 40k "hope is the first step onto the road of disappointment" is not true, not at all.
Here's to wishing you a much better remainder of 2012, perhaps it won't be now, but keep the faith and things will get better.
It really is great to still see you on Dakka Dakka
As this blog has popped up again, I'd like to take the time to write just how short and unconcerning my previous post was. Really, it doesn't sound like you're having at all a good time, and I am very sorry to read it. The quote from 40k "hope is the first step onto the road of disappointment" is not true, not at all.
Here's to wishing you a much better remainder of 2012, perhaps it won't be now, but keep the faith and things will get better.
It really is great to still see you on Dakka Dakka
Cheers mate, and take care!
Cosmic.
Hey Cosmic,
I like to always think, what does not kill me, will make me stronger. I'm quite excited for the new Warhammer stuff to come this year anyways, ecspecially the release of 6th edition. It has seemed best, to not work on any of my armies or ideas for armies until I have the new codices in my hands.
I hope 2012 has been better for you, then it has me!
swampyturtle wrote:
IdentifyZero wrote:Thanks a lot.
I miss working on them, as I miss 40k in general. I still pop in @ Dakka everyday, but 2012 has been rough. The ruinous powers of Chaos, already stole my marriage from me and corrupted my wife into the sweet temptations of Slaanesh.. time to purge the heretics with bolter and flamer, with chainsword and fury! err um yeah.. real life. cannot do that.
Sorry 2012 has been so hard on you man
Hopefully it'll all get better and you'll be able to come back a new. Honestly, i havent touched my minis in a while ether. School has been terrible this semester (3 classes in 1 day and the other ones are spread out or at odd hours, [who the hell starts a class at 3:25 ?] ) anyway I still want to do that advisor swap with ya, but i went home this christmas and found my parents had thrown out the paints cause my little brother got into them and got them everywhere on the carpet so it might be a while coming once i get back into the swing of modeling. Plus the idea of filing down 100+ cadian shoulder pads on my tanith isnt a fun idea. I think ive done like 5? hahaha.
So much shame on my part.
Hopefully things will look up though still wanting to play SWTOR with ya. Let me know when your on.
I'm sorry to hear about your school my man, I know how that is this year, I picked up a pair of extra courses to boost my GPA and it isn't a great strategy when I haven't been attending. That also really sucks with the paints.
I want to do the swap with you as well and I know we will one day. I'm with you on the it might be awhile, I am going to wait for 6th Edition stuff to start releasing before I make any final decisions on what I am going to do. I am hoping we get some TOR down together, it would have rocked if you originally levelled on my server, as I lead the top pvp/pve guild for Republic! So it's quite hard for me to even really play other servers as my guild is always needing me for one thing or the other.
As an aside:
I have been loving the return of the Dark Angels possibly, I've always been a fan of the First Legion and over the years I've had both Ravenwing/Deathwing and normal DA forces; as they have been one of my favorite chapters. Since they got sidelined, most of those kind of armies did as well.
As much as I loved the idea of the Astral Claws, I think that it will be more of an incorporation into a diorama project in the future; with the one painted squad being finished.
I was gearing up to work on my Black Templars again, but it seems, they will likely not be next for marine treatment, but the Dark Angels perhaps. After collecting all the stuff for my guard, I feel kind of funny to not be making them but I think I went overboard there to, it was just something to fill time and I don't know why but the idea of moving all those flyers in an actual 40k match is starting to seem less appealing outside an apocalypse game.
With that in mind, if they are doing Dark Angels next, I am thinking of doing a Fallen Angels force perhaps. Yeah.. I could rant forever on here if I got the chance sometimes.
It's been a long time since I did anything 40k related, aside from sell stuff (haha) and now that some of the dust has settled I've been considering what to do with my stuff until 6th edition hits. As I mentioned before, I was going to work on an Imperial Guard force (Elysian themed) but I sold the dozen valkyries I collected and my 3 vulture gunships and I'm left with roughly 50 Cadian Hostile Environment from Forge World among other things... been trying to figure out something to do with them.
As for my marines, I really want to avoid finishing my astral claws (Which I've decided will actually remain a much smaller force for 1500pt games) and until I'm sure what's up, my Black Templars are also going to be crusading in their case; alone. I considered using the 30 odd bikes I have to do a ravenwing army, but Dark Angels will be out soon (this year?) and I will be left likely swapping units etc.. which I want to avoid.
What I have in excess though are rhino hulls, sisters of battle (70+ sisters, 30+ seraphim...) and forge world hostile environment cadians...
I have no desire to do a guard army but I did come up with an interesting way I might do my SoB after exams are finished up for me.
The Hostile Environment Cadians (I have the elysian weapons to put on them to) would actually make some perfect stand ins for Dominions. Yes, I have the sisters squads to do it but... the sisters models are all the same for the most part and you can only stomach seeing so many of them over and over.
With this in mind, I planned out 5 squads of Battle Sisters to form the core of my army to be mounted in dozer blade rhinos (vindicator dozer blades) no less. (2 fully helmeted squads, these were hard to collect up)
I also considered 3 squads of 10 Dominions, using the Hostile Environment Cadians which I thought would make great stand ins and also could be explained as Schola Progenum Stormtroopers supporting the sisters or a million other things.
If you don't know the models, the HE Cadians are all uparmored with masks and rebreathers and would add something different to the army in terms of appearance.
Any thoughts, I'll get some pictures posted this week of what I have put together. The army is designed to be mostly thematic, representing the mixed forces of a battle preacher as he beats down heretics. They would also be crusading buddies with my Templars.
I wish you had given me first shots at those valks, i would have been highly interested
BT and DA sounds like it'll be a interesting things to see. Just start slowly and come back a new.
As for the sisters + IG theme, i think theme wise the best way to run it would be a GK codex. Inq cortez unlocks henchman. Sisters could be henchmen in power armour with bolters and the stormies could use Hotshot lasguns instead and not have to be proxied. It also gives you alot of room to work and your not using that nasty WD codex. Rhinos , chimeras and all the other goodies are in there too. As for priest, they are in the henchman area as well and given that your IG were gonna be terrian IG having them work with the Ordos on titan would make sense from a fluff PoV.
Anyone tries to accuse you of bandwagioning , point out you have zero GK models in your army. problem solved. Hopefully you'll be around more and give my P&M some looks. Ive been making progress (slowly) but surely.
I wish you had given me first shots at those valks, i would have been highly interested
BT and DA sounds like it'll be a interesting things to see. Just start slowly and come back a new.
As for the sisters + IG theme, i think theme wise the best way to run it would be a GK codex. Inq cortez unlocks henchman. Sisters could be henchmen in power armour with bolters and the stormies could use Hotshot lasguns instead and not have to be proxied. It also gives you alot of room to work and your not using that nasty WD codex. Rhinos , chimeras and all the other goodies are in there too. As for priest, they are in the henchman area as well and given that your IG were gonna be terrian IG having them work with the Ordos on titan would make sense from a fluff PoV.
Anyone tries to accuse you of bandwagioning , point out you have zero GK models in your army. problem solved. Hopefully you'll be around more and give my P&M some looks. Ive been making progress (slowly) but surely.
Sorry man.. I sold them all locally to avoid any kind of problems and to make a maximum profit.. lol $60 a valkyrie is a good price in canada, but in US that is retail. I really needed the cash, trust me, I did not want to do it.
As for GK, I really want to avoid that codex or using anything from it. I already played GK before (Had purifier army, draigowing army, henchmen force) 3 seperate armies I made all 2k each and I sold them all. I always liked SoB though, I just don't want to run an army of 70 models with all the exact same pose and look and did I mention the amount of metal?
It's not a bad idea though. Just not for me really. I just want to do something with these FW Cadians and Elysian Weapons. I also like 9-10 rhinos in a 1500pt army driving around firing off melta & flamer.
Capitansolstice wrote:Its great to see a friend back! I would have to see what your doing to decide, I think that I would hold on SOB, or do what swampy is saying
Thanks man. I just wanted to do something different. I've been doing drop pod marines since 3rd for the most part.
I still have to finish painting the last of my astral claws and basing, but I did get a lot more work on them. The problem is just having all these marine armies. We're also forgetting, I haven't played a game of 40k since that gallery upload of a battle report that never got written of my vostroyans vs tau. The tau were smoked like a cheap cigar and thrown away. haha
Sorry man.. I sold them all locally to avoid any kind of problems and to make a maximum profit.. lol $60 a valkyrie is a good price in canada, but in US that is retail. I really needed the cash, trust me, I did not want to do it.
As for GK, I really want to avoid that codex or using anything from it. I already played GK before (Had purifier army, draigowing army, henchmen force) 3 seperate armies I made all 2k each and I sold them all. I always liked SoB though, I just don't want to run an army of 70 models with all the exact same pose and look and did I mention the amount of metal?
It's not a bad idea though. Just not for me really. I just want to do something with these FW Cadians and Elysian Weapons. I also like 9-10 rhinos in a 1500pt army driving around firing off melta & flamer
Not a problem, i cant hide my disappointment but i can understand the situation.
I think this is gonna have to be a moment where we agree to disagree. I think GK would be a better style for what your trying to do theme wise and rules wise but if you want to stick with the sisters and proxy the IG in thats cool too.
Sorry man.. I sold them all locally to avoid any kind of problems and to make a maximum profit.. lol $60 a valkyrie is a good price in canada, but in US that is retail. I really needed the cash, trust me, I did not want to do it.
As for GK, I really want to avoid that codex or using anything from it. I already played GK before (Had purifier army, draigowing army, henchmen force) 3 seperate armies I made all 2k each and I sold them all. I always liked SoB though, I just don't want to run an army of 70 models with all the exact same pose and look and did I mention the amount of metal?
It's not a bad idea though. Just not for me really. I just want to do something with these FW Cadians and Elysian Weapons. I also like 9-10 rhinos in a 1500pt army driving around firing off melta & flamer
Not a problem, i cant hide my disappointment but i can understand the situation.
I think this is gonna have to be a moment where we agree to disagree. I think GK would be a better style for what your trying to do theme wise and rules wise but if you want to stick with the sisters and proxy the IG in thats cool too.
Yeah, I'm sorry about the valks/vultures. I scored most of them average $20-$35 and got approximately $60 each though which was pretty amazing I think considering some of them were pure bitz without any extras. I also managed to get $100 each for my vultures and sold the weapons separate so all in all it was a pretty decent endeavor for me collecting the vehicles!
As for the sisters thing, I am one of the few people (all 12 of us?) who played them with the old codex so I've always had a like for them. It's just a shame that the WD codex is so limited in terms of options.... I don't see another codex for them anytime soon though, which is a shame because they're a unique army.
Capitansolstice wrote:Hahaha! I think that different is good. I cant say anything for SOB except that they kick renegade arse
They do a fine job of that, just a shame they get neglected by GW so much.. lol
I've enjoyed my time I worked on my Astral Claws and due to the different projects, all unrelated, some related I would like to work on I'm going to put this blog on hiatus for now.
From the start of my journey, to some of the first photos of assembled mortis contemptors etc.. lol I've enjoyed the encouragement, posts and thousands of views that I've accumulated.
In the future (maybe near or far) I plan to either complete my Astral Claws 2nd Company and/or also a Tyrant's Legion army which will likely be worked on in conjunction.
For now, I've decided to work on a Sisters of Battle army. I've always loved my SoB but have never really put much effort into them, I had hoped the new codex would breathe life into a forgotten army but rather than put off painting and modelling a unique army I've decided that I need to get this started and perhaps finished.
Stay tuned for a link to my new blog, which will be focusing on my I hope, unique sisters of battle army.
(Long story short, got like 200 Sisters, need to do something with SOME!)
I cannot wait to do it, I've been talking about it RL forever. I'll be started as soon as I get my models delivered and finish the paid work I have (Draigo and Dreadknight). I'll post pictures of those as I work on them.
To be honest, I realized, it was Forge World themselves who killed the Astral Claws for me at present. Weeks waiting for pieces missing from my original shipment, a hassle for replacement parts, things missing out of the bags, broken bitz... just made my excitement and fervor die down as I began to consider other projects. I still like their story and appearance (And the work I did) but I just think all those gunships would look positively awesome.
IdentifyZero wrote:
Capitansolstice wrote:sorry for being dense, but I dont really understand the question
Sorry my bad for not being clear, what army are you making with them?
Automatically Appended Next Post: lol... Failure is waiting for 1 hour watching auctions in a foreign country only to be told you cannot bid when you try to bid snipe @ 10 seconds...
Anyways, I'll post some pictures of what I am working on for a client today, just a brief preview:
Kaldor Draigo - Have created a base with cities of death pieces, plan to get Draigo about 1/2 - 3/4 done this evening.
I also have a Dreadknight to work on for him, but I'm definitely going to airbrush that to save overall time. I thought of airbrushing Draigo but I don't have a good enough brush to be do fine detail with, maybe I'll invest in one next (would be smart with all I buy and work on).
I did also kind of lol that nobody wants to see the 2nd Company Ultramarines so far.
How many points do you think you have assembled so far? Is the assault squad gonna be next on the work bench? 
)
So I bought a battleforce, and now am on my way to 2000+ points!
so it might be a while coming once i get back into the swing of modeling. Plus the idea of filing down 100+ cadian shoulder pads on my tanith isnt a fun idea. I think ive done like 5? 
hahaha.