Some anonymous send this message to Darnok over at Warseer:

Didn't see this anywhere but...
This dec we will see the mangler squig released. (on a 60mm round base to put that debate to rest)

Mangler squigs are big squigs from the current O&G army book, currently without (GW) models. Something like this:


There are other wild guesses on December releases floating around (something new, a book , Bretonnia full release etc), but it seems to be this squig and the 4 Megaforces only.

Cool, while theres probably going to be a lucrative price tag, at least we'll now know the size

They're like a walking wrecking ball!

Full Night Goblin army (i.e. core, special, rare) now possible

Santa would like to give that to a few naughty boys and girls as "suprise" presents.

Ho ho ho.

Make that huge squig and also a plastic box of them... And not in finecast please...

Cool, I hope the models look nice. With the base size finally clarified, I can see if I want to use the model they supply or convert my own.

NAVARRO wrote:Make that huge squig and also a plastic box of them... And not in finecast please...

Theres not much point in making them plastic though

Then again the Night Goblin fanatics are plastic, although you can have quite a lot of those compared to 2-3 Squigs

kenshin620 wrote:

NAVARRO wrote:Make that huge squig and also a plastic box of them... And not in finecast please...

Theres not much point in making them plastic though

Then again the Night Goblin fanatics are plastic, although you can have quite a lot of those compared to 2-3 Squigs

Squig hoppers and squig herds?

I'd really love to see a squig hopper / squig herd plastic box set. maybe like 8 squigs, 8 riders and 8 herders with different weapons, that can rank up good too.

If they do a mangler, I'd buy that for a dollar. Even if it's not-so-finecast

Necros wrote:I'd really love to see a squig hopper / squig herd plastic box set. maybe like 8 squigs, 8 riders and 8 herders with different weapons, that can rank up good too.

If they do a mangler, I'd buy that for a dollar. Even if it's not-so-finecast

Exactly, a plastic box with squigs would be a dream to built.

Manglers are described in the book as two squigs chained together. However, I haven't seen any conversions like that yet. Mine are single models converted out of cold ones, but glad to see squig love. I want the hopper/herder box a lot too! T'would be awesome!!!

even though I dont play fantasy O&G anymore I must admit the squig fetish has still lingered so this news is very welcome ^^

Please please please be true... and be in plastic! I would buy so many it would be stupid. Especially if they are true to the book description as being two squigs plus a couple of herders all chained together. My mind is abuzz with all the awesome things that could be done with such a kit!

Oh December, swiftly dwindle down the daylight to the chill days of winter, to bring me squigglies as a wondrous gift! Nothing warms the heart in the frigid dark of winter like ravening squigs connected by a nasty chain!

75hastings69 wrote:December is a little sooner than I expected, but I'm happy about that. Wait till you see the size of them! Gobbos holding on for life!

AFAIK mangler squigs are indeed finecrap. They're pretty big though so I'm expecting around £20 price point.

There are some other missing rare choices for some armies that have been finished for a while and are just awaiting release - as I've posted previously (cygor/ghorgon, jabberslythe etc. etc.)
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Mangler squigs are 2 chained together iirc

Any idea in timing?

For what? To be honest I was under the impression the mangler squigs were early next year and that the empire war alter and the ghorghon/cygor kits were due out before them... however things change. I've no idea about a timeframe for the Collosus/heirotitan or whatever it's called, I just know it's been finished for a while now - I'm not aware of any other TK models so it could easily see a standalone release rather than forming some kind of wave of tk releases.

To the question about a greenskin wave release - short answer = no (I'd love a plastic stone troll kit, a plastic wyvern kit, new plastic wolves, and a new plastic boyz/arrer boyz kit more than anything so let's cross our green fingers!!)

We're talking about 2 squigs the same size as the thing the Warboss on GCS is riding or Gobbla? The things about the same size as a slann without the throne?

They're not that big, and I was meaning the combined model as a whole Hastings, not each one individually. Its going to be the most expensive 65pts in my army.

Bigger than both.

Harry wrote:

.... The Beastmen things would be cool too.

Thats handy then.

Totally called it not being plastic, if it was a squig "set" then maybe plastic but this just seems to be manglers only

I simply put 2 regular squigs on a 60ml round base with a bit of chain binding them ogether.

Nil problems at several tourneys and many friendly games with my 'Shetland giant cave squigs'.

I don't play OnG, but come on, Who doesn't love Squigs?

Good to hear that other releases are in the pipeline as well.

Finecast... Dang, that ruins it. I had so many bad finecasts, I just have no interest any more. Plus, it will be too expensive to buy just for conversions, base decorations, etc. Oh well.



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Yeah, couldn't believe there was no model for this... so good call on GW's part filling in the hole in the line. (Insert: Now only if they'd release ______ near mandatory model for ______ faction )

Orks always get love... That is how it is. THey always sneak in a model or two with every inbetween release.

<-----Imagine's an easy model to make for zogworts curse

I'd get a large squig model even without playing WHFB. I just like squigs.

Prices and pics from Alvaten of the Warhammer-Forum http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?showtopic=177025&st=25 , taken from the upcoming WD (pic of squig will follow later):

Ghorghon/Cygor plastic kit 42.5€
Jaberslytghe finecast 52€
Big squig 50€
finecast old minotaur lord

Awesome.

jabberslythe is unacceptable, not nearly enough skulls on it. the other two fill their GW skull quota.

Those are sweet! Might pick up the Jabberslyth for a plastic Great Unclean One stand-in.

Looks cool.

For a second I thought the Ghorgon/Cygor feet were rehashed from the Giant kit.

The Jabberslythe is fine. Not a fan of the other kit: The sculptor is undecided between an untrained Giant body and muscular arms and legs of a Minotaur. The head repeats the design of the new plastic minotaur, also not my taste. The pale pink paint job is not helpful for a wild monster like that.

Personally I would prefer the Maelstrom monster, even if it is an adult model showing its genitals:

I like them! Can't wait to see the mangler squig...

Ugh. I guess it's a good thing I made my own Cygor. There are individual bits on that kit that look neat and I bet someone making a kit based on combining the lovely WH giant kit, the Cygor/Ghorgon, and liberal use of greenstuff could make something really spectacular. But the cost isn't really worth it.

I'm somewhat surprised that the Ghorghon is actually much better than I expected, despite echoing that horrible design they are using for minotaur heads. By which I mean, I expected the Ghorghon to be terrible, and it is merely avarage by GW standards. There are certain things about the Jabberslythe that I don't mind (I kinda like the toad-face), but it just doesn't fit the Beastmen line. Which is weird, because otherwise GW seems to be trying really hard to make the beastman line visually coherent all the way up (even the new Ghorghon looks like merely a large, mutated minotaur, whereas the illustration in the book makes it look like a truly chaotic monstrosity covered in additional mouths).

It was a nice little experiment seeing if I would finish a WHFB army, but seeing how little effort GW put into my army, I can't say I'm inclined to put in any further effort of my own. Ah well, frees up more money to eventually start Infinity, don't it?

Hmm....very interesting

I do prefer the Maelstrom stuff, especially their cyclops. Jabberscythe looks a lot more buff than it kinda is. They are a little better than the GW minos though I suppose

But on the bright side, Beastmen players can finally stop complaining about their lack of monsters, now they can complain about the looks and the prices!

My only issue with the Cygor/Ghorgon is the lack of body hair. They're beastmen. Where's the hair?

I think the models, like the Minotaurs, are done a disservice by the painting. Again, they're painted with hard highlights and shadows like armour rather than skin. Using a softer method on the skin would probably make them look a lot better.

Well well well I guess all my complaining about not having monsters for Beastmen but monsters for every other new army has been for not. Bravo Gw Bravo.

Huh... GW finally fills some of the gaps in the Beastman line, and they're completely underwhelming compared to some of the "secondary market" models already out there.

Can't say I'm remotely tempted by any of them for my own Beastman army. Since I'm not worried about playing at a GW store, I'll definitely be sticking with my non-GW options...

Valete,

JohnS

So... uh... the Ghorgon is a classic Keeper of Secrets? lol

Nice stuff though, even though I see a Greater Daemon there!

Thanks for the pics! Quite like the Jabber, and okay-ish on the others. I do think they were stuck in a no-win situation by doing a combined kit. The cygor is depicted as gangly and awkward, while the ghorgon is supposed to be a mountain of muscle.

The Maxmini Immortal is also a very cool alternative for those who aren't taken with the new ghorgon.

Big squig costs more than the dual giant kit?

must be huge

-Loki- wrote:My only issue with the Cygor/Ghorgon is the lack of body hair. They're beastmen. Where's the hair?

I think the models, like the Minotaurs, are done a disservice by the painting. Again, they're painted with hard highlights and shadows like armour rather than skin. Using a softer method on the skin would probably make them look a lot better.

For Chaos player love as well :'P
or else it would be awfully weird for GW to release not one but TWO plastic kits solely for unpopular beastman ( unless the 3 gets buffed in some sort of WD update lol )

MajorTom11 wrote:So... uh... the Ghorgon is a classic Keeper of Secrets? lol

Nice stuff though, even though I see a Greater Daemon there!

Well. It's a minotaur with 4 arms.

So you got that going for you.

Otherwise. No. It's not a Keeper of Secrets. It could be made into one if you wanted to put a lot of work into it. You know, slaanesh runes, jewelry, ornate armor, female anatomy that most warhammer players have only seen pictures of.

But out of the box? no.


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Also: I'm happy with all 3 of the beastman critters finally getting models.

I was gonna collect Beastmen as my WHFB battle army, but that was entirely dependent on how the Ghorgon/Cygor would turn out. After seeing this... Im not so sure now.

Worglock wrote:

MajorTom11 wrote:So... uh... the Ghorgon is a classic Keeper of Secrets? lol

Nice stuff though, even though I see a Greater Daemon there!

Well. It's a minotaur with 4 arms.

So you got that going for you.

Otherwise. No. It's not a Keeper of Secrets. It could be made into one if you wanted to put a lot of work into it. You know, slaanesh runes, jewelry, ornate armor, female anatomy that most warhammer players have only seen pictures of.

But out of the box? no.

Thank you for providing your definitive ruling on my impression Worglock, I am so glad you cleared up my own personal perception for me! And here I was thinking it was an actual Keeper of Secrets mislabeled several dozen times...

Worglock wrote:Otherwise. No. It's not a Keeper of Secrets. It could be made into one if you wanted to put a lot of work into it. You know, slaanesh runes, jewelry, ornate armor, female anatomy that most warhammer players have only seen pictures of.

But out of the box? no.

Know your GW history please.



It's very, very close to the classic KOS.

Thank you Loki

Its a male KOS

its got to be!

The Ghorghon would certainly be a great conversion base for a Keeper of Secrets.

I was all enthused re the Jabberslythe until I saw the 'Finecast' logo :(

So do we have any indication of how big that squig is? If monster-sized (and plastic), i'll definitely get one.

Clang wrote:So do we have any indication of how big that squig is? If monster-sized (and plastic), i'll definitely get one.

Finecast , drednought size ish

:\...not impressed. Ugly minotaur heads and weird "muscular-but-not" bodies.

Jabber's alright, Finecast isn't.

Terrible plastic Minotaurs + Giant Sized = Terrible Giant Plastic Minotaur. Of course I temper my criticism with the fact that there is very little in the Beastman line that I actually like, so my view is completely subjective here. I will say though that I'm surprised that any of these received kits. When I first read the Chaos Beastmen of Chaos book I thought these would be the 'Tervigons' of the Beastman line. It's good to know that I was wrong about that, but also bad to know that we still don't have the Tyranid releases I thought these would be the Warhammer equivalents of.

And I just finished a sentence with 'of'. Twice.

Anyway, the Chupathingy or whatever it's called I will reserve judgement for until we have a pic that doesn't cover up the detail with a fething camera flash.

EDIT: Just noticed that Jabba the Slyth is Finecost. Uurrgh... not good.

The Jabber it seems will look like it was attacked with the Vorpal if theres some bad finecast casting

Flubberscyth looks too similar to this for my liking

You say that like it's a bad thing. The Toad Dragon is fantastic.

LunaHound wrote:Big squig costs more than the dual giant kit?

must be huge

Last rumour I heard said finecast. So, large model in finecast = large price.

They're all ugly in a bad way. And I have to wonder whose bright idea it was to combine the two-handed, over-the-head pose on the Cygor with a head completely unsuited to it.

The cows look okay. No something I would buy for the model, but if I wanted them for the rules, I wouldn't mind the model.

The jabberthingy is pretty cool, if it weren't failcast I might have bought one just to add to my menegerie.

The Ghorgon/Cygor aren't awful, but not all that great IMO. I rather like the jabberslythe, though not remembering what the art in the book looks like (if there even is any), and not recalling anything about its description, I was imagining something more... slender and slither-y. I like it, though.

RatBot wrote:The Ghorgon/Cygor aren't awful, but not all that great IMO. I rather like the jabberslythe, though not remember what the art in the book looks like (if there even is any), and not recalling anything about its description, I was imagining something more... slender and slither-y. I like it, though.

I like the quality of Ghorgon as well.
one issue and the only issue i have is.... it looks like an over sized minotaur lol

I'll be purchasing all of them. I'm a completionist and will want them solely as centerpieces in my display shelf. I rarely use any of the 3 in game, unfortunately.

LunaHound wrote:

RatBot wrote:The Ghorgon/Cygor aren't awful, but not all that great IMO. I rather like the jabberslythe, though not remember what the art in the book looks like (if there even is any), and not recalling anything about its description, I was imagining something more... slender and slither-y. I like it, though.

I like the quality of Ghorgon as well.
one issue and the only issue i have is.... it looks like an over sized minotaur lol

A Ghorgon is an over sized minotaur according to its lore. They were the biggest and strongest of their tribe and ate all the rest, thus mutating into something much bigger and more violent. At least thats what their bray-shamans think.

Cygors are described as distant cousins to the minotaurs as well.

NELS1031 wrote:I'll be purchasing all of them. I'm a completionist and will want them solely as centerpieces in my display shelf. I rarely use any of the 3 in game, unfortunately.

LunaHound wrote:

RatBot wrote:The Ghorgon/Cygor aren't awful, but not all that great IMO. I rather like the jabberslythe, though not remember what the art in the book looks like (if there even is any), and not recalling anything about its description, I was imagining something more... slender and slither-y. I like it, though.

I like the quality of Ghorgon as well.
one issue and the only issue i have is.... it looks like an over sized minotaur lol

A Ghorgon is an over sized minotaur according to its lore. They were the biggest and strongest of their tribe and ate all the rest, thus mutating into something much bigger and more violent. At least thats what their bray-shamans think.

Cygors are described as distant cousins to the minotaurs as well.

ahhh if its according to the lore, then its fine.
I just dont like having "repeats" its hard to explain.

Hmm I'm not to sure about the Beastmen models. I see that the Ghorgon and Cygor kit was sculpted by Aly Morrison and he was heavily involved in the first wave of Beastmen models so they should look uniform. I'm impressed with the Jabberslythe as it looks as freaky as it's description suggests and like something from Warhammer Forge in that it reminds me of the Plague Toads and the Toad Dragon. I think the proportions of the giant figures look odd but I think that might have been intentional to encourage kit bashing with the current giant figure. I think the Ghorgon needs more mouths on it's torso but that can be easily done. There is definitely something unsettling about all three models and I can't tell if it's me disliking the figures or that they are doing what they are meant to do, which is unnerve people. I think it's a nice departure from the standard safe/acceptable figures. I'm looking forward to seeing the mangler squig and I hope they go back to the more classic squig rather than the gods awful cave squig mount. I'll certainly get the Cygor and Jabberslyth but I will wait and see what's in the kit before i commit to the Ghorgon. Now if we had a proper Christmas miracle they'd sort out the cost of the rares in the Beastmen army with a White Dwarf rules update.

Worglock wrote:

MajorTom11 wrote:So... uh... the Ghorgon is a classic Keeper of Secrets? lol

Nice stuff though, even though I see a Greater Daemon there!

Well. It's a minotaur with 4 arms.

So you got that going for you.

Otherwise. No. It's not a Keeper of Secrets. It could be made into one if you wanted to put a lot of work into it. You know, slaanesh runes, jewelry, ornate armor, female anatomy that most warhammer players have only seen pictures of.

But out of the box? no.


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Also: I'm happy with all 3 of the beastman critters finally getting models.

Excuse me sir, I have internet. I've seen video of those parts.

Wow total waste of plastic kits, Horrible miniatures!

...Is it bad that I actually like both the Cygor and Ghorgon?
And the Jabberslythe?

I really like the Ghorghon/Cygor plastic kit. Will almost certainly get one, even though I haven't played Warhammer for a long time.

What the hell is going on with its body? I can't tell what exactly is wrong with the ghorgon but it sure as hell doesn't look right...it's just weird, and not in the good "I'm willing to spend $50 on this" way, either.

Its head is too big (and ugly), it's upper body isn't big enough for those four arms it has, it has a gut despite the fact that it's arms and legs are ripped (oh and his hip bones are showing, is that right?)...it's just ugly, I don't like anything about it. Ugh, it's like GW just doesn't get it...they put out the minotaurs, which a lot of us hated because of the waaay over-the-top musculature and weird, ugly faces. So they put out the big monster kit and give it much toned-down musculature so it doesn't look like a big mass of meat...but when you're making a big monster like that you kinda want a lot of muscle to make it look threatening (that and it has four god-damned arms, you'd think it would have a decent-sized upper body because of that). Speaking of muscles, did they try to sculpt abs on its beer gut? Is that what I'm seeing? Maybe I just don't know that much about anatomy but how does that work?

I dunno, I've said it before, but apparently it bears repeating: sculpting monsters, especially monsters that have existed in some form for years and years, like dragons, minotaurs, etc., shouldn't be that hard. Other, smaller companies, like Maelstrom, can do it so much better than GW can with their Banebeasts, so why can't the giant corporation with more money and talent do it as good as they are, or better?

Sidstyler wrote:
I dunno, I've said it before, but apparently it bears repeating: sculpting monsters, especially monsters that have existed in some form for years and years, like dragons, minotaurs, etc., shouldn't be that hard. Other, smaller companies, like Maelstrom, can do it so much better than GW can with their Banebeasts, so why can't the giant corporation with more money and talent do it as good as they are, or better?

Larger companies like to cut corners?

I think GW are trying hard to make it their thing. I find it intriguing that the 'giant corporation' is still rebelling against what people expect. Why should they bother doing a 'classic' minotaur (I say classic in reference to the fantasy beast not the classical myth beast) if people want a rehash of a minotaur they can get one from Maelstrom, having said that the Banebeast Cygor is a horrid thing with a cartoony face and I am pleasantly surprised that the Cygor is the better of the two versions. The designers at GW have always done exactly what they want to do and not pandered to the accepted norms. John Blanche, Aly Morrison and Trish Carden have always been very individual with their work and havent been afraid of doing models or art that are odd and quirky and rather unsettling. As for the anatomy, the Cygor and Ghorgon both look similar to tribes people of South America males with pot bellies are not unusual there. If you look at the first wave of figures Aly Morrison also did the ungor figures and they have pot bellies too. The legs do seem thin but then so do the legs of the current giant. With the Beastmen giants though I think they look like they've come from an emaciated ox.

I know a lot of people want to see Banebeast or Avatars of War type figures but they are rather mundane to me. They look like they've walked out of World of Warcraft or Skyrim and while those games look pretty they aren't Warhammer. Warhammer is dark and disturbing and should make you think WTF. If the model doesn't weird you out Mr Morrison isn't doing his job right. What is also nice in a broader sense is that you'd know it was the CItadel figure someone was using or something else. It actually lends clarity to different miniature lines and then it's up to the player because it's their army. I'm happy that GW have filled this gap but I'm not going to say that these will be universally be loved because they won't. Beastmen aren't an 'everyman's' army and I'm glad about it. I wish they'd sort out the points cost of the rares but other than that I'm glad one of my armies isn't being picked up by every no brainer player on the planet.

Has nobody else realised that the Jabberslythe is an almost exact copy of the design for the JHabberwocky from the movie, Jabberwocky???

I like the new Ghorgon/Cygor kit. The models actually look like semi-feral giant monsters of chaos, which they are. I haven't decided on the Jabberslythe yet, but I'm glad that it at least is weird enough. I did like the "new" minotaurs as well, although these two models look a bit more sinister, because they aren't quite as bulky as the minotaurs. I really applaud GW for finally releasing the proper models for the BM rare range, and I will definately be getting one of them. It is never too late to release models! I might even be getting both a Cygor and a Ghorgon if I get enough time to work on my BM army, just to reward GW for caring for the BM players. I did like the Maelstorm Ox-Gore as well, but it was not really evil enough for me, and due to the designer being the same, it fits better with the BM range itself. I was actuall going to buy the Ox-Gore, but then I saw this thread.

I like them as well, but I like monsters in general. They fit well with the Minotaurs and that is plus for me. If I played Beastmen, I ´d likely get them.

Not anything I am remotely interested in. I can see the being appealing for beastman players and think the plastic kit looks very well designed particularly the upper torso.

Sidstyler wrote:I dunno, I've said it before, but apparently it bears repeating: sculpting monsters, especially monsters that have existed in some form for years and years, like dragons, minotaurs, etc., shouldn't be that hard. Other, smaller companies, like Maelstrom, can do it so much better than GW can with their Banebeasts, so why can't the giant corporation with more money and talent do it as good as they are, or better?

I can't say why GW can't do it in general, but with monsters like the beastmen monsters, the Manticore, and the black dragon, I honestly think the problem is that they just don't care. That's been what's plagued the whole beastman line. They split beastmen off from the rest of Chaos in the last edition, and then just ignored the book for, well, not really a Dark Eldar timescale, but still a long time. The beastmen army we eventually got was bland. Dull. They're the grunts of the warhammer world. If Warhammer Fantasy was a video game, beastmen would the the horde of forgettable enemies that the character defeats with room-clearing attacks so he can get to the interesting baddies at the high levels, like the Chaos warriors. Maybe corporate fired the guy who had to evaluate models for quality, maybe they never had such an employee and are just depending on GW stores banning use of non-GW models to force customers to buy their product, but for whatever reason it seems clear to me that the designers' hearts are just not in this line. It's something to get done with so they can go to more interesting lines. Which is odd, because of all the armies in the game, the beastmen are the army that seems most culturally-suited to decorating everything with skulls.




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Bloodwin wrote:If the model doesn't weird you out Mr Morrison isn't doing his job right.

Well, different strokes for different folks then, because as far as I'm concerned Morrison didn't do his job. The models don't weird me out, they just look disappointing. Pedestrian. Middle-of-the-road. Unlike the Banebeasts, they take no risks. They're just lumpy big guys.

Kroothawk wrote:The Jabberslythe is fine. Not a fan of the other kit: The sculptor is undecided between an untrained Giant body and muscular arms and legs of a Minotaur. The head repeats the design of the new plastic minotaur, also not my taste. The pale pink paint job is not helpful for a wild monster like that.

Personally I would prefer the Maelstrom monster, even if it is an adult model showing its genitals:

http://www.maelstromgames.co.uk/store_maelstromgames/images_product/mae_blg_bnb_mon_009_000_01_large.jpg

I agree that the gorgon/cygor kit is pretty lackluster. I was planning on converting one from a giant and I agree it looks like the sculptor did just that.

I disagree on the other two points. The jabberslythe is fairly lackluster, although I suppose it's because I also immediately thought of the chaos toad thing.

But I still think the Maelstrom model is one of the ugliest models in their entire line. The pose and the eye-cap just are horribly bad.

The feeling of being weirded out that Bloodwin is describing is the "good kind" I mentioned, which I'm definitely not feeling. It's not "disturbing" so much as "disturbingly bad".

If I didn't know anything about Warhammer, judging it purely based on the models, I'd say the Warhammer world is less dark and disturbing like you say and more wacky, stupid, and nonsensical than anything else. Nothing GW puts out says "dark and disturbing", no matter how many skulls they put on them. Maybe that's the problem, they waste more time designing skulls and worrying about skull placement than making sure the models the skulls are going on look good and are worth the hilarious price tag they always get. Warhammer Online did a much better job making the Warhammer world look dark and disturbing than GW themselves do (too bad the game itself was lacking...tried too much to be like WoW and the PvP that was supposed to be the focus of the game wasn't very good).

Fair enough if GW wants their stuff to stand out and be recognizable, but I wouldn't want to be known for gakky models, personally...gakky models that people will only buy because they feel they "have" to. You don't have to pander to "accepted norms" to make a good-looking miniature, GW can still have their own style without having to do the things they do.

Bloodwin wrote:I'm glad one of my armies isn't being picked up by every no brainer player on the planet.

Ask a Dark Eldar player how good that feels in the end, lol.

Kits look alright and the mangler squig is much needed. Although I don't really see the point in releasing kits for monsters that are pretty bad (Gorgon is alright, but so expensive) for an army that is even worse.. I'm not saying don't release them but I would imagine there are higher priorities.

Oh well, nice to have more cannon bait er monsters sit on shelves waiting for 9th edition!

Jabbaslythe is a misfire for me, but I don't mind the Ghorgon/Cygor. If I was collecting Beastmen, I'd be more than happy to pick this kit up (although the skulls are overdone as usual). It's a damn sight better than the minotaurs and razorgor anyway.

Love the Jabberslythe, but I'm very underwhelmed by the Ghorgon/Cygor. They're not as tall, but I very much prefer my own Minotaur conversions to the official kits. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to rebase my conversions now to match with the new official sizes.

Here's the new Mangler Squig:

From Eldargal at Warseer.

Sidstyler wrote:

Bloodwin wrote:I'm glad one of my armies isn't being picked up by every no brainer player on the planet.

Ask a Dark Eldar player how good that feels in the end, lol.

Heh, yes I love my skaven but this latest round of Warhammer should be called the "Island of Be Careful What You Wish For". As for the dark stuff, I agree that GW talk it up but have a hard time producing the goods. I think their problem is the way that the 'Eavy Metal team are being led. Back when I started in the 80s, drybrushing highlights was always a skull white affair (and in hindsight looked terrible). I thought we had got over that, but now we are back to bright figures more often than not ending up with pure white highlights. It looks crap to me. My beastmen are painted to look filthy and my minotaurs have dark red flesh to loose the bodybuilder on steroids feel and go for a more chaos warp-out feel. But that does beggar the question of why the two giants are so skinny when the fluff for both creatures is that they are big greedy minotaurs. I'm remaining open minded on them as I havent seen them in the flesh and as I mentioned I don't think 'Eavy Metal have done a good paint job in the last 2 years. Their techniques are very nice, but technique doesn't make a good paint job and it's even worse for trying to sell figures that are difficult to like.

(edit) Just saw those squigs. I think I can just make out that they were done by Trish Carden, wow. I'm not sure about the gobbos but those are amazing and fun I especially like the gobbo in the mouth of the top one like in the WAR cinematic. I'd get that just to paint it. Whoever photoshopped the images needs to get a talking to though, the right leg of the bottom cave squig has a spiked metal ball in the left picture but you can't see it in the right hand picture.

Mangler Squig round base blasphemy!

Ok model, but I bet it costs a fortune in relation to it's points cost. I hate forking out money for things which aren't worth that many points.

Those Manglers are massive. I know I am going to make 2 separate ones from that kit instead of having them climbing on top of each other. Being on a 60mm base, those are just huge. I think they are actually much bigger than their stats in the game require. I love the look of them though!

Flashman wrote:Mangler Squig round base blasphemy!

Ok model, but I bet it costs a fortune in relation to it's points cost. I hate forking out money for things which aren't worth that many points.

They're one of the best rares in the book is all.. that's why they'll be expensive since everyone who plays goblins wants/needs them. Sorta like how if they rereleased goblin chariots they would probably sell them in packs of 1 for 35$ .. yet people would still buy 6

So is the little gold/orange box in lower right corner of mangler photo saying something about seeing Manglers in a battle report in the issue?

I can usually understand a small a bit of French, based on similarity to Latin/common rootwords, but the grammar just confounds me...

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Hello smexy new Radical Demon Hunter Dreadknight, you are a smexy Radical Demon Hunter Dreadknight aren't you?

Wings + axe + more skulls with a lick of red paint and BAM greater demon of Khorne.

AlexHolker wrote:Here's the new Mangler Squig:

From Eldargal at Warseer.

Disappointing looking model + Failcast + 50,- f'in euros = hell no

When did Beasts of Chaos come out? 2010 right? Now they finally are putting out the 2nd wave? Tyranid players rejoice! It will only take till next december for your 'gons and 'fexes to come too!

The hands on that Ghorgon do not look good (spoken as someone who's job is sculpting hands). Maybe they look better in the flesh. Shame they couldn't put a few skulls on it too.

I'm gonna wait to see better pics and actual models before I make a judgment on these.

Regarding the earlier conversation about the Bmen line, my frustration is that the clunkers in the line don't even match the concept art. Look at the art for the Razorgor...it's a thick, massive boar, not some skinny, twisted, mutated thing. So what happened? Same thing goes for the Minotaurs...they look much better proportioned in the art. Instead we get bodybuilders with *enormous* cow heads. Miniatures often don't strictly match the art, but the departure with those is rather large and I don't understand why.

As I said, I'm withholding judgment, but these new models at least appear better than Razorgors and Minos.

My one thought: Jeez those are huge. I mean, seriously.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Hello smexy new Radical Demon Hunter Dreadknight, you are a smexy Radical Demon Hunter Dreadknight aren't you?

I don't know I think he needs more skulls and bones to feel right to me.

Not too bad, would've sooner the cygor be something other than an upscaled Minotaur.

But the Jabberslythe looks much better than I ever expected it too, enough to justify the cost? not so sure.

The manglers are a bit...something...for my taste. I dunno. I'm not that gone on them for some reason. Ah well. Converting my own it is!

Jabby is all finecast!? Holy christ what are they thinking, that is just asking for trouble in miscasting!

jabbers looks terrible, Giant ox isn't too bad, but will need some converting to make it look better. The Manglers are nice but will eat through everyone's wallet.

Unfortuneately, there was never any quality time spent with the beastmen book. It is still the worst-written book of the fantasy range (previous edition included). With the Mangler squigs, there is at least some incentive to take one in one's army. I'd have to be playing "only take stuff you'd never take in an army" to put one of the poorly written, overcosted RARE options in my Beastman army. I can't play that army as it is because it's so boring to begin with.

I absolutely loved the old beastman book, I thought it was one of their best, and one of the most uniquely warhammery of any of the books. The new one just seems lacklustre.

The other thing with the Jabberslythe is not it isn't even remotely horrifying. Whilst sculpting something to match its description was always going to be a tough, I still think it's a poor effort. The HPA model for example does kind of look repulsive, but for the Jabberslythe they just went for a half arsed old style chaos spawn look.

I know how to fix the Ghorgon.

It requires someone donating a Nagash model. So we can put the giant SKULLFACE around its neck as bling.

Can confirm a Dec. 3rd release for these kits.

mikhaila wrote:Can confirm a Dec. 3rd release for these kits.

So soon? im guessing advance order on 25th?

yay less waiting is good :3

Wow, that is a pretty nice model there...

LunaHound wrote:

mikhaila wrote:Can confirm a Dec. 3rd release for these kits.

So soon? im guessing advance order on 25th?

yay less waiting is good :3

Skullvane Manse will be out as well. And something I have no info on....

Blood in the Badlands, a 96pp full color, HC, book. 'While supplies last'.

Curious troll is curious.

Might be a "Uniforms and Heraldry" styled book for the Ogre Kingdoms.

AlexHolker wrote:Here's the new Mangler Squig:

From Eldargal at Warseer.

That's seriously a 60mm base? They're gigantic . And stacked on top of one another... imagine how much space they'd have taken up if side-by-side!

At least this will put an end to the mangler squig base size abuse... just saw it this past weekend . Perfectly legal before, but not soon!

I'd rather glomp a cactus than get stuck in a dark alley with any of those unhappy campers.

Unless the price is completely ridiculous on the Mangler squigs, I'm totes in for those. I don't know what I'll do with them, but I like them.

Well, it's 50 Euro, which means it'll likely be $57.75 USD, if other similarly priced models are a precedence (IE, Greasus Goldtooth, Greater Daemons, etc).

Finally! GW has released new models that I absouletly do not feel the slightest need to make a purchase of. My wallet thanks you, GW.

Ouze wrote:Unless the price is completely ridiculous on the Mangler squigs, I'm totes in for those.

RatBot wrote:Well, it's 50 Euro, which means it'll likely be $57.75 USD

Well, that settles that :/ Nice model, but too expensive.

Eh, I kinda hoped the Ghorgon would be more... massive. Like, the concept art shows a massive, bulky Minoutaur with 4 arms. This is kinda... like a Minotaur Giant. It's serviceable, for sure, but meh, I'll have to play around with the kit before I come to a decision.

Do love the Cygor, and am meh about the Jabberslythe. It's a sub-par model, but it's a sub-par unit, so I'm not terribly worried either way.

Do want the Manglers though.

Im stingy so im going to try splitting the 2 manglers into their own units >.>

Those manglers are going to have serious issues with bending at the ankles. Guaranteed, you'll need to pin them to a base to keep them upright.

Now the question is should I build a Cygor or a Ghorgon? Which one is the best for a typical Beastmen army? The Ghorgon is just really killy in CC with a great statline, but no one expects a BM player to have a stone throwing monster in his ranks.

Bonde wrote:but no one expects a BM player to have a stone throwing monster in his ranks.

Yes, because it's so rubbish

To be honest, I personally would go with the Cygor, because I prefer the concept. The Ghorgon is by far the stronger of the two in game terms though.

I like the squigs, but not at that price...

Oh no the pumbagor freaky eye attack on the top squig... Before even looking at the price the model is a bit lacking and finecast, so a big no.

That ghorgon needz moar skullz...

There is no way I'd buy those in finecast due to the cost and with TLOS they will stand above pretty much everything else in the army


My 'mini manglers' in my army at the last tourney I played are cheaper and much better suited (on the round 60mm bases)...

I like the jumping giant Gonads

I also prefer your mangler convos Gonads, I rather see them side by side than one on top of the other. Outstanding army...

If only the Mangler Squig were metal. It would have made awesome dreadsock filler.

The Jabberslythe is not what I expected. I will await better pics.

LunaHound wrote:Im stingy so im going to try splitting the 2 manglers into their own units >.>

This is a fantastic idea! They'll still be quite tall compared to the rest of the army, but at least not That tall.

Gonads, get some close ups of that army up, man! That is awesome.

The big squigs look good, squigs are great and there's lots of potential for 40K conversions.

But why oh why have they placed two figures on the same based and stacked up in the most peculiar way? They would be much, much better as individually based models.

As someone who loves all things Squig-related, I'm actually quite shocked by how much I dislike the Mangler Squig. I think they're terrible.

The models is alright, not good or bad. Regardless it has a few benefits.

1) There IS a model now for the mangler squig which is great since its an amazingly effective unit
2) Its not metal
3) The model isnt awful
4) Its not metal!

Thats my main issue with doing conversions.. you gotta use metal which is worse than not having a model to me

H.B.M.C. wrote:As someone who loves all things Squig-related, I'm actually quite shocked by how much I dislike the Mangler Squig. I think they're terrible.

I have the exact same feeling. I love Squigs and one of the reasons I collect gobbos but these just don't do it for me.

I don't know, if you split them onto 2 bases it's not only half the cost, but I think they'll look decent!

I imagine that will be a Really common thing for people to do, given that they're a Rare choice I think, and so most of the time you can only field 2.

It looks to be a 60mm base looking at the NG on the base behind the bottom giant squig.
He is way too small for it to be 40mm.

RiTides wrote:I don't know, if you split them onto 2 bases it's not only half the cost, but I think they'll look decent!

I imagine that will be a Really common thing for people to do, given that they're a Rare choice I think, and so most of the time you can only field 2.

They'll probably cast them in a manner as to make conversion as awkward as possible, which is the complaint I hear of Canis Wolfborn.

Well, that's a given! But they're not attached by much, so it will have to be possible in some form, at least.

Maybe I missed it, but any word on how much the Mangler will cost?

and, why the round base instead of square?

Because Fanatics are on round bases and its a big fanatic.

Why are fanatics on round bases you ask? No idea! Probably because Mangler squigs are on a round base and fanatics are just smaller mangler squigs (This can go on forever!)

The squig will be super easy to convert compared to the old metal canis since it wont be metal. Hard to really compare finecast vs metal in terms of converting capabilities as there really is no competition between the two

Necros wrote:Maybe I missed it, but any word on how much the Mangler will cost?

and, why the round base instead of square?

It think someone said about $50 or £30. It may be great in game terms, but I like to get more points for my pounds and the model isn't particularly inspiring either.

Kroothawk wrote:Prices and pics from Alvaten of the Warhammer-Forum http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?showtopic=177025&st=25 , taken from the upcoming WD (pic of squig will follow later):

Ghorghon/Cygor plastic kit 42.5€
Jaberslytghe finecast 52€
Big squig 50€
finecast old minotaur lord

I actually dig the squig a lot.. I have yet to play a single game with my goblinses so I have no idea how good it will do, but it'll make a fun centerpiece for my smurfs.

I'm still waiting for plastic regular squigs.. hopefully someday..

Ghorgon/cygor kit is fine. But I really wan't that Jabberslyth

Ps. Hopefully we get some new squigs soon...

The Mangler Squig is too big. AND too expensive! I'd been holding off making a conversion for my buddy out of two goblins riding GCS because that was nearly $40. Foolishly, I thought to myself "$40? Rediculous. I'll wait for the GW model. Something of the appropriate size surely couldn't cost more than $25."

Than's for proving me wrong, Guys. Maybe they'd work for a squiggoth conversion, or as a Counts-as Giant. But other than that? No thank you. Too expensive and TLOS will slaughter these things.

As to why fanatics and Manglers are on round bases: After they shoot out of a unit, you scatter and move them randomly. As polygons, square bases would have some areas that are closer, some that ar farther from the center. A round base allows for more accurate moving and less "eyeballing" from the center of a model or some such.

I still believe that the Squigs are 3 Ups of the acutal ones. They forgot to downsize them...

Korraz wrote:I still believe that the Squigs are 3 Ups of the acutal ones. They forgot to downsize them...

I'd say you're very much wrong.

Look inside the Squig's mouth. There's a Night Goblin inside.
Look at the Goblins hanging from the chains. If it were a 3-up, they'd be much bigger.

Saw the Banebeasts' Beastman on the first page and my jaw hit the floor... Then I realized it was a 3rd party creation.

The two official GW Beastmen giants look horrible. Weird pose, covered in skulls and the usual targeted-at-12-year-olds aesthetic.

The mangler squig is alright, but like most I prefer the one poster's conversion to the official miniature.

Kanluwen wrote:I'd say you're very much wrong.

Look inside the Squig's mouth. There's a Night Goblin inside.
Look at the Goblins hanging from the chains. If it were a 3-up, they'd be much bigger.

You're aware of the word 'facetious' and its definition, yes?

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:I'd say you're very much wrong.

Look inside the Squig's mouth. There's a Night Goblin inside.
Look at the Goblins hanging from the chains. If it were a 3-up, they'd be much bigger.

You're aware of the word 'facetious' and its definition, yes?

And you're aware of the word "context" and its definition, yes?

There is nothing within the post I replied to which leads one to believe the individual is being anything other than serious.

So back off.

Chill out you two... quit before it devolves!

As to why fanatics and Manglers are on round bases: After they shoot out of a unit, you scatter and move them randomly. As polygons, square bases would have some areas that are closer, some that ar farther from the center. A round base allows for more accurate moving and less "eyeballing" from the center of a model or some such.

While your point is logical I don't think that was GW's reason.. as it sounds entirely too "competitive". I mean fanatics have been in the game longer than a lot of the current gamers have been alive and Im hesitant to say the reason is internal game balance especially when you involve 5th edition.

Is the reason an Avatar is on a square base because of some kind of internal balance? I think the answer is closer to "..Because they just are.. some guy put the wrong base in the package and we just stuck with it"

Bloodwin wrote:I'm impressed with the Jabberslythe as it looks as freaky as it's description suggests and like something from Warhammer Forge in that it reminds me of the Plague Toads and the Toad Dragon.

Thinking about using the Jabber as an Abomination in my Nurgle Skaven army ... but good (dark) lord, that's a lot of $$$ for a failcast blob. That and I've pretty much decided that Maelstrom gets my big monster resin monies now

- Salvage

Zarren Wevon wrote:Saw the Banebeasts' Beastman on the first page and my jaw hit the floor... Then I realized it was a 3rd party creation

To make things complicated, the sculptor of the 3rd party model is now freshly hired as a full-time GW sculptor.

Kroothawk wrote:

Zarren Wevon wrote:Saw the Banebeasts' Beastman on the first page and my jaw hit the floor... Then I realized it was a 3rd party creation

To make things complicated, the sculptor of the 3rd party model is now freshly hired as a full-time GW sculptor.

That's a Very Good Thing though.

Kanluwen wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:

Zarren Wevon wrote:Saw the Banebeasts' Beastman on the first page and my jaw hit the floor... Then I realized it was a 3rd party creation

To make things complicated, the sculptor of the 3rd party model is now freshly hired as a full-time GW sculptor.

That's a Very Good Thing though.

Anything that gets sculptors other than Trish to sculpt GW monsters is a good thing.

Is there a reason why the model depicts one squig standing on the head of another instead of a single big f-off sized squig?

Because why have one squig when you can have TWO big squigs?

Pretty sure the Mangler Squig unit entry is actually described as two big Squigs chained together, "guided" by (particularly foolish) Night Goblins, and stacking them is the only way they can get two Squigs that large onto one 60mm base. Basically, if it was one giant f-off sized Squig, it wouldn't be a Mangler Squig.

RatBot wrote:Pretty sure the Mangler Squig unit entry is actually described as two big Squigs chained together, "guided" by (particularly foolish) Night Goblins, and stacking them is the only way they can get two Squigs that large onto one 60mm base.

Then perhaps they shouldn't have been that large.

Howard A Treesong wrote:Is there a reason why the model depicts one squig standing on the head of another instead of a single big f-off sized squig?

Because Warhammer Forge are doing one of those in Monsterous Arcana as far as I know?

AlexHolker wrote:

RatBot wrote:Pretty sure the Mangler Squig unit entry is actually described as two big Squigs chained together, "guided" by (particularly foolish) Night Goblins, and stacking them is the only way they can get two Squigs that large onto one 60mm base.

Then perhaps they shouldn't have been that large.

No argument here. I'm simply saying that's why the Mangler Squig kit must be two Squigs on one base instead of one giant one, which is what Howard asked.

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Anything that gets sculptors other than Trish to sculpt GW monsters is a good thing.

+1

- Salvage

Howard A Treesong wrote:Is there a reason why the model depicts one squig standing on the head of another instead of a single big f-off sized squig?

That's the way they are described in the book. The model is actually dead on to what they describe. Two giant caves squigs chained together with a handful of inept night goblins trying to guide them along, getting caught in the chains and smushed dead as the rolling ball of doom impacts with a unit.

Great model. painted up a couple of them.

RatBot wrote:Pretty sure the Mangler Squig unit entry is actually described as two big Squigs chained together, "guided" by (particularly foolish) Night Goblins, and stacking them is the only way they can get two Squigs that large onto one 60mm base..

Whilst I was researching how I'd be able to afford the models I came accross this beauty, which shows a giant cave squig and skarsnik's giant squig easily on a 60mm base.


I trialed 2 giant cave squigs, no problems, only issue was the cost of making 3 of the damned things.

MajorTom11 wrote:So... uh... the Ghorgon is a classic Keeper of Secrets? lol

Nice stuff though, even though I see a Greater Daemon there!

Heh, I'm looking at the Cygon, and Necrosphynx, to make Magnus...



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LazzurusMan wrote:Has nobody else realised that the Jabberslythe is an almost exact copy of the design for the JHabberwocky from the movie, Jabberwocky???

Which, takes off the well known Tenniel illustrations from -Alice through the Looking Glass- It was pretty clear from the day it was printed that the Jabberslythe was a Alice Expy......

Lanceradvanced wrote:

LazzurusMan wrote:Has nobody else realised that the Jabberslythe is an almost exact copy of the design for the JHabberwocky from the movie, Jabberwocky???

WHich, probably takes off the well known tenniel illustrations from Alice through the Lookinglass.. It was pretty clear from the day it was printed that the Jabberslythe was a Alice Expy......

LOL yes, exactly, Lanceradvanced... in fact, here it is:



From Wikipedia.

I would have been extremely disappointed if something called a "Jabberslythe" didn't look related to this critter!

P.S. Space Emperor Celestia forever!

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Waaagh_Gonads wrote:

RatBot wrote:Pretty sure the Mangler Squig unit entry is actually described as two big Squigs chained together, "guided" by (particularly foolish) Night Goblins, and stacking them is the only way they can get two Squigs that large onto one 60mm base..

Whilst I was researching how I'd be able to afford the models I came accross this beauty, which shows a giant cave squig and skarsnik's giant squig easily on a 60mm base.


I trialed 2 giant cave squigs, no problems, only issue was the cost of making 3 of the damned things.

Why would you need 3? You can only have 2 in games of 3k or less? Do you often run larger games than that?

Nagashek wrote:

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:

RatBot wrote:Pretty sure the Mangler Squig unit entry is actually described as two big Squigs chained together, "guided" by (particularly foolish) Night Goblins, and stacking them is the only way they can get two Squigs that large onto one 60mm base..

Whilst I was researching how I'd be able to afford the models I came accross this beauty, which shows a giant cave squig and skarsnik's giant squig easily on a 60mm base.


I trialed 2 giant cave squigs, no problems, only issue was the cost of making 3 of the damned things.

Why would you need 3? You can only have 2 in games of 3k or less? Do you often run larger games than that?

Not often, but occasionally.
Even a couple tournaments per year with 3000 point games.

Gymnogyps wrote:

Lanceradvanced wrote:

LazzurusMan wrote:Has nobody else realised that the Jabberslythe is an almost exact copy of the design for the JHabberwocky from the movie, Jabberwocky???

WHich, probably takes off the well known tenniel illustrations from Alice through the Lookinglass.. It was pretty clear from the day it was printed that the Jabberslythe was a Alice Expy......

LOL yes, exactly, Lanceradvanced... in fact, here it is:



From Wikipedia.

I would have been extremely disappointed if something called a "Jabberslythe" didn't look related to this critter!

P.S. Space Emperor Celestia forever!

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I dont see the resemblence. I have seen the movie and remeber the Jabberwocky making an early appearance in warhammer fantasy role play back in the day, and know it originally to be a Lewis Carrol creation, but the first thing I thought when I saw the Jabberslythe was dissapointment they didnt make it look like a Jabberwocky.

I really hope that we get to see a sprue of the Ghorgon/Cygor before release, because I want to know how many skulls I need to file off before I buy it. I will probably still get one, but do a lot of small conversions on it to make it more personal and less... skull-y?

Fayric wrote:

I dont see the resemblence. I have seen the movie and remeber the Jabberwocky making an early appearance in warhammer fantasy role play back in the day, and know it originally to be a Lewis Carrol creation, but the first thing I thought when I saw the Jabberslythe was dissapointment they didnt make it look like a Jabberwocky.

The Jabberslythe looks like Jabberwock's fat, short, ugly cousin. It seems pretty clear it is "inspired by" the Jabberwocky, not a copy.

Take a look at the overall shape, especially the rounded head. It also has the bulbous body, plus smallish wings, huge hands on skinny arms, and sinuous tail. The biggest difference in shape the lack of long, thin neck for Jabberslythe. Extend that neck, give it an S bend maybe, and add some pretty gills/frills to the face, and it would be a pretty good grimdark Jabberwock.

Anyway, yes, it is not a Jabberwocky. It isn't intended to be. Its a Jabberslythe, GW's interpretation. It is enough of an homage to recognize the nod being given to Carrol and Tenniel, but it is still a new GW critter. At any rate, several of us have noted the resemblance!

Gymnogyps wrote:

Fayric wrote:

I dont see the resemblence. I have seen the movie and remeber the Jabberwocky making an early appearance in warhammer fantasy role play back in the day, and know it originally to be a Lewis Carrol creation, but the first thing I thought when I saw the Jabberslythe was dissapointment they didnt make it look like a Jabberwocky.

The Jabberslythe looks like Jabberwock's fat, short, ugly cousin. It seems pretty clear it is "inspired by" the Jabberwocky, not a copy.

Take a look at the overall shape, especially the rounded head. It also has the bulbous body, plus smallish wings, huge hands on skinny arms, and sinuous tail. The biggest difference in shape the lack of long, thin neck for Jabberslythe. Extend that neck, give it an S bend maybe, and add some pretty gills/frills to the face, and it would be a pretty good grimdark Jabberwock.

Anyway, yes, it is not a Jabberwocky. It isn't intended to be. Its a Jabberslythe, GW's interpretation. It is enough of an homage to recognize the nod being given to Carrol and Tenniel, but it is still a new GW critter. At any rate, several of us have noted the resemblance!

Bah! It dont even have a vest
No seriously, I get that its a Jabberslyth rather than a Jabberwoocky, and I guess I need to see a better picture or more angles, but honestly, I would say the overall shape, and especially the head, is the things that really set it apart from the Woocky. The "skinny arms" looks untrained and fleshy rather than the woockys insectlike arms. On the whole I see a crawling nurgle lizard where I would like to have seen a insect wyvern with a hint of turtle (and with some minor edits to set it apart as a slythe).
Funny thing is, I like the Jabberslythe more than most of GWs new monsters. Exept the dysfunctional wings (as with the other SoM monsters).

Dont like any of 'em unfortunatly.

If anybody refers to the Jabberwock as a Jabberwocky in this thread again, I will set the squigs on them.
Jabberwocky was the poem, dammit.

Fayric wrote:
Bah! It dont even have a vest !

Touche. LOL

I see your point on the Nurgle-ness, also.

I will now describe Mr. Slyth as "the Jabberwock's fat, short, ugly, fashion challenged, Nurgle corrupted cousin."

@Vampirate, usage corrected for this post.

I was hoping the Jabberslythe would look more like this lol

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Kroothawk wrote:The Jabberslythe is fine. Not a fan of the other kit: The sculptor is undecided between an untrained Giant body and muscular arms and legs of a Minotaur. The head repeats the design of the new plastic minotaur, also not my taste. The pale pink paint job is not helpful for a wild monster like that.

Personally I would prefer the Maelstrom monster, even if it is an adult model showing its genitals:

I preferred the concept Artwork from GW to the Banebeasts/Maelstrom figure, but I far prefer the Banebeasts figure to the GW one.

MajorTom11 wrote:So... uh... the Ghorgon is a classic Keeper of Secrets? lol

Nice stuff though, even though I see a Greater Daemon there!

Good call! I just found the box with my classic metal figures in it literally last night - about 15 hours ago or less. I'll have to dig one of those out and actually paint it!






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One thing that also annoys me about the GW kit is that the 4-armed one has only one set of pectoral muscles. Thankfully Maelstrom has some idea about how anatomy works.


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Kirasu wrote:
Is the reason an Avatar is on a square base because of some kind of internal balance? I think the answer is closer to "..Because they just are.. some guy put the wrong base in the package and we just stuck with it"

Eldar Avatar? Well, once upon a time there were no large round bases. The current Avatar has been around since 1993, and GW probably haven't changed the parts codes in all of that time, since it's been a metal figure in a box the entire time. I imagine the Finecast update will give it a round base, though. So it wasn't the "wrong" base, but the only base available at the time. All the large 40k stuff (eldar walkers, sentnels, marine, CSM, Ork dreads) came with 40mm squares for a hell of a long time. (no 50mm squares back then, either).

Forever Lona over at "Da Warpath" posted these sprue pics of the Finecast Squig:

So feasibly, one could assemble it with each Mangler Squig on their own base if one wished to?

Huh. Cool.

I certainly wouldn't care if someone decided to base them separately.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was intentionally done.

Yeah, that's pretty cool of GW to do in this case. I can't imagine why people would stack them up like that, instead of basing them separately...

RiTides wrote:Yeah, that's pretty cool of GW to do in this case. I can't imagine why people would stack them up like that, instead of basing them separately...

Because a Squig Totem Pole of Death is awesome, obviously.

So two for the price of one.

Good god, GW doing something that actually adds value for the consumer?

THE SKY IS FALLING