Could this be something to do with the 6th edition of 40k?

There is very little in the thread and the document lacks detail. What do you think?

http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=100338

I'd really appreciate some sort of alternate linking or hosting for the work blocked.

DarkStarSabre wrote:I'd really appreciate some sort of alternate linking or hosting for the work blocked.

It's a table on a piece of paper talking about a 14th July 2012 release, presumably of 6th edition.

Sounds very strange.

The fact that the teaser period begins only a couple of weeks before the actual release is typical of GW I guess...

But at least we have some guess as to precisely when 6th comes out, though this could in all likelyhood be a hoax... I don't know how they could have been able to photograph and leak this without being caught.

"Go loud"

What does PoS mean

for the workblocked

PoS is point of sale, i.e. a store. GW TV is likely their internal vid casts. I doubt they would buy more tv ads.

Seems legit.

Interesting.

Has to be a fake
It says possible "Go Loud" Period TV ad

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Has to be a fake
It says possible "Go Loud" Period TV ad

As I said, that likely refers to their vidcasts they've done, with the ever inspiring Allen Merrit snoozing you through what should be awesome. The man has the charisma of pudding.

PoS = Point of Sale.

Basically, things like Standees, shelf edging. Otherwise known as "Stuff pointing to the stuff you're trying to shift"

July 14th as release date is on a Saturday, so it would fall on the correct day of the week.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:"Go loud"

I believe the alternative they had originally was "Go Ward or go home!".

You ninja'd me Valhallian
Is possible. Good thing is if it is one of those cheapo vids then we can safely ignore it

I fell asleep during the turgid DF vid.
It needed more fleet and less dread(ful)

BTW I know what PoS means and also a possible alternative meaning which midly amused

Didn't we know it was Summer '12 anyway?

Seems legit. Not much else to glean from it.

Interesting. it seems to follow what many were speculating

Well that actually looks legit. It obviously is dealing with store merchandising and layout. It looks to start the official announcement on June 30th with the release date being july 14th, that would keep with standard GW nonsense.

You gotta love that the Advertising dept has singled out "cut & Paste" FaceBook posts

This seems like the easiest thing to fabricate. Only the GW TV adverts are the surprising thing.

...that and 6th edition's potential release.

Seems legit to me. Too boring and specific to be a hoax; in my opinion warhams hoaxes always show a lot of wishlisty type stuff.

Ouze wrote:Seems legit to me. Too boring and specific to be a hoax

Plus it's fairly credible that a GW marketing campaign for their biggest release would fit on one side of A4

I suppose this means GW will still have its detestable 'marketing' (cough) framework in place as of summer next year? 2 weeks build up for the companies biggest release, one which they must have spent millions of pounds on, since 5th edition came around? You couldn't make this gak up..

But as someone commented on the other thread, the 'marketing department' has been replaced by a 'punishing department' instead.

It looks painfully authentic.

Funny how it seems to suggest starting 6th with a new army may be high on their sales agenda, never could have seen that coming. In a million years. With a million eyes.

Ouze wrote:for the workblocked

Hrmh. Interesting.

It's almost like they're finally trying to do a real marketing campaign.
It's still a relatively short time of warning, but at least it's a step in the right direction.

The "remerchandise 40k section" one is the most interesting. It reads less as "Insert a new army!" and more "Group the battleforces together near the Rulebook, and see if you can hook someone with a new army."

Seems a tad sparse though. Still, it could well just be 'summary' document the source in question typed up.

Any ideas as to what GW will change for 6th? I quite like how 5th works, although I'm aware others would be glad to see TLOS leave.

I think it's probably the one aspect that will almost certainly stay, considering that 4th edition was the only version that didn't use it and was an anomaly in that regard. The developers have gone on record and said it made to much of an abstraction for the players.

The only change from 5th to 6th edition is that you will need to use dice with your army logo in place of the six. Obviously the dice are finecast and come 6 in a box. That is 6 random dice in a box.

Floris wrote:The only change from 5th to 6th edition is that you will need to use dice with your army logo in place of the six. Obviously the dice are finecast and come 6 in a box.

...and a hole for the one.




(Well someone was gonna say it)

GW TV ad? LOL

Sounds pretty cryptic. I see a lot of things that would hint to a new edition though. Launch CD? What? Since when?

Hadn't noticed the "New 40K, New Army" part of the campaign. Well I am instantly inclined to rebel on that aspect of the launch.

Flashman wrote:Hadn't noticed the "New 40K, New Army" part of the campaign. Well I am instantly inclined to rebel on that aspect of the launch.

What that means is "new rules set forces people to buy more stuff."

Makes sense.. This is how they did the schedule in the run up to 5th edition.

The most curious part of this document (for me at least) has to be the fact that it has the code name "Project Prisoner". I have to wonder what in the hell that might mean.

What are they referencing with the prisoner part of that?

The emperah is the prisioner.

Flashman wrote:

Ouze wrote:Seems legit to me. Too boring and specific to be a hoax

Plus it's fairly credible that a GW marketing campaign for their biggest release would fit on one side of A4

lolz!



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JoeyHeadwounds wrote:The most curious part of this document (for me at least) has to be the fact that it has the code name "Project Prisoner". I have to wonder what in the hell that might mean.

What are they referencing with the prisoner part of that?

Surely the customer

Flashman wrote:Hadn't noticed the "New 40K, New Army" part of the campaign. Well I am instantly inclined to rebel on that aspect of the launch.

Actually the boxes they released with 5th edition were well worth it. The Tyranid one was a steal.

£110 - 3 Carnifexes (£75), 6 Tyranid Warriors (£36) and a crap ton of Gaunts and Genestealers. It came out to about £60 of savings. Four boxes, three rather cheap from other sources (I paid £140 for two, LOL) and I had a sizeable chunk of savings.

It also explains how I've got 20+ Carnifexes

Hopefully we'll see some boxes worth the discount with this edition.

The Prisoner's number was 6
(I am not a number)

Flashman wrote:

Ouze wrote:Seems legit to me. Too boring and specific to be a hoax

Plus it's fairly credible that a GW marketing campaign for their biggest release would fit on one side of A4

Hah, well played

DarkStarSabre wrote:

Actually the boxes they released with 5th edition were well worth it. The Tyranid one was a steal.

£110 - 3 Carnifexes (£75), 6 Tyranid Warriors (£36) and a crap ton of Gaunts and Genestealers. It came out to about £60 of savings. Four boxes, three rather cheap from other sources (I paid £140 for two, LOL) and I had a sizeable chunk of savings.

It also explains how I've got 20+ Carnifexes

Hopefully we'll see some boxes worth the discount with this edition.

I just hope and pray it is not the "Megaforces" that got leaked. I would like to see some GW combo boxed sets that are actually worth it. (And yes, I know the battleforces kind of are. Just not when you already bought everything that comes in them before they got released.)

DraconicGuardian wrote:

I just hope and pray it is not the "Megaforces" that got leaked. I would like to see some GW combo boxed sets that are actually worth it. (And yes, I know the battleforces kind of are. Just not when you already bought everything that comes in them before they got released.)

The Megaforces are a christmas release. And they weren't leaked- the pictures can be seen in a gift guide that has been readily available from GW stores for 2 weeks.


EDIT: badly worded sorry.

Wow, I just find it funny that they've called the 6th ed project (if it is 6th ed after all) 'Project Prisoner'... Almost like they want to keep it locked away for a while... oh, wait...

JoeyHeadwounds wrote:The most curious part of this document (for me at least) has to be the fact that it has the code name "Project Prisoner". I have to wonder what in the hell that might mean.

What are they referencing with the prisoner part of that?

If this were to be taken seriously, how cool would it be if that was a reference to something involving the Lion?

New 40k new Army

Well, at least they are honest about the reason for the new edition, if only internaly.

Pacific wrote:I think it's probably the one aspect that will almost certainly stay, considering that 4th edition was the only version that didn't use it and was an anomaly in that regard. The developers have gone on record and said it made to much of an abstraction for the players.

Not quite true. Fourth Edition was the only edition that included the concept of model and terrain "sizes" and a definition of "area terrain" that was sized, but there were many exceptions ot TLoS in previous editions. Just as one example, in previous editions, a section of Forest, no matter how thick or thin, could not have LoS drawn from one side to another, and models could only draw LoS a maximum of 2" either into or out of a piece of terrain defined as Forest. This led to some interesting situations where you might have a piece of terrain defined as Forest which was only 1" wide in certain areas, but you could not have a unit on one side of the terrain draw LoS to a unit on the other side, even though you could normally see into up to 2" of Forest terrain.

Flashman wrote:Hadn't noticed the "New 40K, New Army" part of the campaign. Well I am instantly inclined to rebel on that aspect of the launch.

It doesn't say new army it says new army collectors cards. So possibly a CCG tie in.

Lorizael - The Megaforces are a christmas release. And they weren't leaked- they've been readily available from GW stores for 2 weeks.

Sorry but they're not readily available. GW's search 'megaforce' doesn't bring up anything and splitting the search into 'mega force' CSM megaforce and gives 14+ pages of force weapons and nobs in mega armor. Google did better with an older page http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1060109 but that is also not the leaked pics for the xmas release as it contains a predator and the leaked had a LR.

mwbeardpride wrote:

Flashman wrote:Hadn't noticed the "New 40K, New Army" part of the campaign. Well I am instantly inclined to rebel on that aspect of the launch.

It doesn't say new army it says new army collectors cards. So possibly a CCG tie in.

Second row, 3rd column of the sheet. Different 'new army' reference.

winterman wrote:
Second row, 3rd column of the sheet. Different 'new army' reference.

I may be naive, but I assumed that was just that salespeople will be advised to try to convince buyers of the new box set or rulebook "Hey, this would be a great time to try a new army, too!" and maybe sell some more product. I can't fault GW for wanting some sales.

mrwhoop wrote:

Lorizael - The Megaforces are a christmas release. And they weren't leaked- they've been readily available from GW stores for 2 weeks.

Sorry but they're not readily available. GW's search 'megaforce' doesn't bring up anything and splitting the search into 'mega force' CSM megaforce and gives 14+ pages of force weapons and nobs in mega armor. Google did better with an older page http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1060109 but that is also not the leaked pics for the xmas release as it contains a predator and the leaked had a LR.

The release date I have on all 4 of them is DEC 3rd

mwbeardpride wrote:

Flashman wrote:Hadn't noticed the "New 40K, New Army" part of the campaign. Well I am instantly inclined to rebel on that aspect of the launch.

It doesn't say new army it says new army collectors cards. So possibly a CCG tie in.

Nah, that's probably just a rehash of the old collector's cards they used to use, "rewarding" you for buying 1 hq, 2 troops, 1 each elite, fa, hs and the codex.

Sandyman11 wrote:Wow, I just find it funny that they've called the 6th ed project (if it is 6th ed after all) 'Project Prisoner'... Almost like they want to keep it locked away for a while... oh, wait...

Anyone trying to get away with leaking news and they release Rover, the monster bubble from the finecast mix

Balance wrote:I may be naive, but I assumed that was just that salespeople will be advised to try to convince buyers of the new box set or rulebook "Hey, this would be a great time to try a new army, too!" and maybe sell some more product. I can't fault GW for wanting some sales.

Cynical, not naive. But yeah, that's the impression I got too.

Saldiven wrote:Not quite true. Fourth Edition was the only edition that included the concept of model and terrain "sizes" and a definition of "area terrain" that was sized, but there were many exceptions ot TLoS in previous editions. Just as one example, in previous editions, a section of Forest, no matter how thick or thin, could not have LoS drawn from one side to another, and models could only draw LoS a maximum of 2" either into or out of a piece of terrain defined as Forest. This led to some interesting situations where you might have a piece of terrain defined as Forest which was only 1" wide in certain areas, but you could not have a unit on one side of the terrain draw LoS to a unit on the other side, even though you could normally see into up to 2" of Forest terrain.

I'm not trying to break this into a True vs. Abstract LOS thread, but I personally do not like TLOS. If I put down a piece of green felt with a single tree on it then the whole thing is a forest, not just where the tree is. 4th Edition's area terrain was a good idea because it allowed more flexibility.

Plus, not everyone had a 4+ cover save.

I really hope they are not bringing out 6th already. Still only played a handful of games in 5th

But this will be great opportunity to start a new army though, eh Silver?

Flashman wrote:But this will be great opportunity to start a new army though, eh Silver?

Yay!!!!!

Oh, wait, I just sold 3 and no longer buy anything from GW


Noooooo!!!!! [/Darth Silver]

I would guess that PoS in this case is NOT point of sale, but actually an acronym for the new rule box-set. Like IoB for Island of Blood or AoBR for Assault on Black Reach.

Flashman, I noticed that "Remerchandise 40k section (all battleforces together - new 40k new army)" bit too. Seems awesome.

biccat wrote:I'm not trying to break this into a True vs. Abstract LOS thread, but I personally do not like TLOS. If I put down a piece of green felt with a single tree on it then the whole thing is a forest, not just where the tree is. 4th Edition's area terrain was a good idea because it allowed more flexibility.

Plus, not everyone had a 4+ cover save.

I so totally agree with you.

Sounds credible. "Go loud" is official GW-speak.

mrwhoop wrote:

Lorizael - The Megaforces are a christmas release. And they weren't leaked- they've been readily available from GW stores for 2 weeks.

Sorry but they're not readily available. GW's search 'megaforce' doesn't bring up anything and splitting the search into 'mega force'

Apologies, that was badly written. The pictures come in a gift guide that has been readily available for two weeks. I'd already had one in my hand a few days before the first pics were posted.

SilverMK2 wrote:

Flashman wrote:But this will be great opportunity to start a new army though, eh Silver?

Yay!!!!!

Oh, wait, I just sold 3 and no longer buy anything from GW

You should use it as an opportunity to start a (new) WarMachine/Hordes/Infinity/Malifaux/Flames of War/Brushfire army!

Scottywan82 wrote:I would guess that PoS in this case is NOT point of sale, but actually an acronym for the new rule box-set. Like IoB for Island of Blood or AoBR for Assault on Black Reach.

I really hope it's at least an internal abbreviation. IoB and AoBR were relatively unknown abbreviations. PoS is too easy.

DraconicGuardian wrote:I just hope and pray it is not the "Megaforces" that got leaked. I would like to see some GW combo boxed sets that are actually worth it. (And yes, I know the battleforces kind of are. Just not when you already bought everything that comes in them before they got released.)

They weren't the Christmas megaforces (which have cropped up in their Christmas leaflet which was packed with this month's WD for the record). These were something different.

There were 4 with 5th edition - A SM and CSM Strike Force, a Necron Phalanx and the Tyranid Assault Brood.



You can sort of see what it consisted of.

3 Carnifexes, 6 Warriors, 16 Genestealers, 16 Hormagaunts and 16 Termagants. Very good value. Got a Chaos force as well as all the FW bits to do an all FW Deathguard army as well.

I think a new "race" for 40k is unlikely. More likely is that "new army" equals updated/new release for an existing army such as Black Templars or Chaos Marines (Renegades?).

biccat wrote:

Scottywan82 wrote:I would guess that PoS in this case is NOT point of sale, but actually an acronym for the new rule box-set. Like IoB for Island of Blood or AoBR for Assault on Black Reach.

I really hope it's at least an internal abbreviation. IoB and AoBR were relatively unknown abbreviations. PoS is too easy.

Yeah, I would really hope that they wouldn't be naive enough to label 6th edition 'PoS'...


For the re-organisational part of the chart, I would be more inclined to think that it's referring to having a section for each army, a section for the new rules, and a section for whatever that latest release army is, rather than being a specific hint of a 'new' army added to the game.

DarkStarSabre wrote:

DraconicGuardian wrote:I just hope and pray it is not the "Megaforces" that got leaked. I would like to see some GW combo boxed sets that are actually worth it. (And yes, I know the battleforces kind of are. Just not when you already bought everything that comes in them before they got released.)

They weren't the Christmas megaforces (which have cropped up in their Christmas leaflet which was packed with this month's WD for the record). These were something different.

There were 4 with 5th edition - A SM and CSM Strike Force, a Necron Phalanx and the Tyranid Assault Brood.



You can sort of see what it consisted of.

3 Carnifexes, 6 Warriors, 16 Genestealers, 16 Hormagaunts and 16 Termagants. Very good value. Got a Chaos force as well as all the FW bits to do an all FW Deathguard army as well.

I think those box sets were part of the Apocalypse release. They didn't have anything to do with the release of 5th Edition, unless they re-released those boxes with 5th Edition.

Scottywan82 wrote:I would guess that PoS in this case is NOT point of sale, but actually an acronym for the new rule box-set. Like IoB for Island of Blood or AoBR for Assault on Black Reach.

The Prisoner of Sender
War breaks out on a planet where they were held hostage by ludicrous freight charges for necessary supplies from Terran

augustus5 wrote:I think those box sets were part of the Apocalypse release. They didn't have anything to do with the release of 5th Edition, unless they re-released those boxes with 5th Edition.

Nope. Those 4 specifically were released with 5th edition. I know this as I went to the midnight release and we literally had to jury rig a bag big enough to carry my advance orders home. As I was carrying 2 rather large boxes, the box, some templates, a few other things and my army.

They released a number of other things with Apocalypse but these 4 specific boxes were 5th edition releases.

DarkStarSabre wrote:

augustus5 wrote:I think those box sets were part of the Apocalypse release. They didn't have anything to do with the release of 5th Edition, unless they re-released those boxes with 5th Edition.

Nope. Those 4 specifically were released with 5th edition. I know this as I went to the midnight release and we literally had to jury rig a bag big enough to carry my advance orders home. As I was carrying 2 rather large boxes, the box, some templates, a few other things and my army.

They released a number of other things with Apocalypse but these 4 specific boxes were 5th edition releases.

Then we can hope for some more releases along these lines for 6th!

Is the rumor still Dark Angels vs. Chaos Space Marines in the starter box?

If so I do think that Project Prisoner could easily be a good piece of evidence towards that rumor.

I personally don't think that it would be anything to do with the Lion or a "the Emperor is a prisoner on the throne" aspect.

My guess would be that the theme of the starter box will be that the Dark Angels have located a fallen and are trying to take him as a prisoner so that the chaplain can have his way with him. Or have already captured him and the CSM are trying to free the prisoner.

It is because the protagonist of the 60's TV show, "The Prisoner" played by the late Pactrick Mcgoohan, was given a number. He was Number 6. (I am not a number)

This will be the 6th Edition of 40K

See what they did there?

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:It is because the protagonist of the 60's TV show, "The Prisoner" played by the late Pactrick Mcgoohan, was given a number. He was Number 6. (I am not a number)

This will be the 6th Edition of 40K

See what they did there?

Great observation. I wish I thought that up.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:It is because the protagonist of the 60's TV show, "The Prisoner" played by the late Pactrick Mcgoohan, was given a number. He was Number 6. (I am not a number)

This will be the 6th Edition of 40K

See what they did there?

See. That's the type of obscure creativity GW is good at doing. Take something from somewhere else, but twist it around enough so it ends up being different. So much better than Draigo.

That sheet looks poorly photoshopped.

Mabus wrote:That sheet looks poorly photoshopped.

The ELA would make me think it is too.

http://errorlevelanalysis.com/permalink/9d22ef5/

mwbeardpride wrote:

Mabus wrote:That sheet looks poorly photoshopped.

The ELA would make me think it is too.

http://errorlevelanalysis.com/permalink/9d22ef5/

Only because you don't understand how the ELA works. The parts that show up differently on that document are precisely the parts that should show up differently.

It is worth noting that edges and areas red in colour are often depicted as brighter in the ELA tests. This due to the way the photos are saved by various programs. It is not proof that image was manipulated.

All areas with text in them are at the same higher brightness level, which is exactly what you would expect from plain black text on a white background, saved as a .jpg.

Besides, what kind of idiot needs to photoshop a table on a piece of paper? If they wanted to fake it, it would be both easier and more effective to just forge the orignal document and then scan it themselves.

Scottywan82 wrote:I would guess that PoS in this case is NOT point of sale, but actually an acronym for the new rule box-set. Like IoB for Island of Blood or AoBR for Assault on Black Reach.

It's GW .... try pile of skulls or variations there in.

Scottywan82 wrote:I would guess that PoS in this case is NOT point of sale, but actually an acronym for the new rule box-set. Like IoB for Island of Blood or AoBR for Assault on Black Reach.

Prisoner of ........?


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Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:It is because the protagonist of the 60's TV show, "The Prisoner" played by the late Pactrick Mcgoohan, was given a number. He was Number 6. (I am not a number)

This will be the 6th Edition of 40K

See what they did there?

hurm. makes sense, though.

scipio.au wrote:

Scottywan82 wrote:I would guess that PoS in this case is NOT point of sale, but actually an acronym for the new rule box-set. Like IoB for Island of Blood or AoBR for Assault on Black Reach.

Prisoner of ........?

Prisoner of Somewhere... does it really matter where when that fits so well?

Notice how the bottom part is "none PoS". Dont that indicate its not "Prisoner of Skullhaven" or whatever, but rather "point of sale" ?

anyway, who makes a printed page of brainstorming and lose ideas in this way when you work for a company hung up on secresy and deciet?

d-usa wrote:My guess would be that the theme of the starter box will be that the Dark Angels have located a fallen and are trying to take him as a prisoner so that the chaplain can have his way with him.

Wah-hey!!

No, its Planet of Steel

Necrons WILL be in the starter set, you heard it first from me!

In taking with the running "PoS means..." idea, what if it is short for "Peoples of Steel" and the upcoming set is comprised of Necrons and a new Adeptus Mechanicus themed army?
Certain the idea may be easily dismissible at first, but consider; the Mechanicus has long been thought to be a dupe of the Necrons and has also been the subject of a considerable (forgive the use of that word) number of custom armies. To create such an army would be possible by using all existing model kits for the Imperium simply by adding a few press molded "Mechanicus" customization sprues, similar to the "command sprues" from the Apocalypse (?) line; minus troops of course (tho in theory you could use Imperial guard as foot troops).
This would also set the stage fluff-wise for 7th Edition and the return of the Emperor. Imagine the Necrons rise (something their own new fluff seems to be hinting at) and that yes, the Mechanicus HAS been keeping the Emperor out of the way and have been at least in part Necron patsies. Now, the Necrons are on the rise, and the Mechanicus becomes split between their servents, and those still loyal to the Imperium; so yet another army faction that can not only be fielded against any other army, but against itself as well (another theme GW seems to have embraced as of late).
By no means am I saying this is what they are doing and have absolutely no proof of any kind to present in support of it. lol I'm just tossing out a wild speculation.

PLANET OF SKULLS!!

New terrain for everyone!

It is a planet that is a skull around which orbitz 13 skull moonz
They are all made up of massive pilez of skullz
All races in the 40K univerz want the skullz
BIIIIIG fightz for the mining rightz!

Seriously, we all knew it was only a matter of time.

So... PoS = Point of Sales, the numbers are the dates, and it looks interesting.

I wonder what "New 40k, new army" really means. I'll go ahead and assume that it means we're getting a new army for 6th ed.

Cut and Paste Facebook statements? UH?

So it seems all GW does is just cut and paste. That is what alot of 5th edition seems to be. Cut and Paste.

...furthermore, the top box of the schedule is labeled "project prisoner PoS brainstorming" but the stuff in it has nothing to do with the actual 40k game, its about playingcards, books etc (exept for som staff rules seminar or something).

then, the bottom box is labeled a modest "other ideas (none PoS)" and here they bring up the clues for new edition release and new army etc.

The question is if the bottom box (the interresting one) is even a part of "project prisoner".

In any case we have a "go loud!" period to look forward to.

McNinja wrote:

I wonder what "New 40k, new army" really means. I'll go ahead and assume that it means we're getting a new army for 6th ed.

It means that new edition of 40K is a good time to start a new army. They used the same phrase when 5th ed came out and when 8th ed fantasy came out.
There may well end up being a new race for 40K, but this does not reference it.

That's at least two sources speaking of something big in July. Big enough to be 6th edition...

I'm thinking Prisoner of Slaanesh.

People keep talking about a CSM release with 6th ed. I'm seeing the new starter box being a Slaanesh-themed army against some loyalist group.

Think about it: "Go loud" = noise marines


It all comes together!

New game, new Army June 30th? Is the game going to be that different or is a new game being developed? New Army sounds very promising. If this is real, Im looking forward to an update on this stuff, but hopefully the rules arent completely different.

Defeatmyarmy wrote:New game, new Army June 30th? Is the game going to be that different or is a new game being developed? New Army sounds very promising. If this is real, Im looking forward to an update on this stuff, but hopefully the rules arent completely different.

"New Game" refers to new edition. "New Army" refers to starting a new army to celebrate the new edition. It's just adspeak.

Defeatmyarmy wrote:New game, new Army June 30th? Is the game going to be that different or is a new game being developed? New Army sounds very promising. If this is real, Im looking forward to an update on this stuff, but hopefully the rules arent completely different.

The game will feature slight tweaks to the rules that we currently have, as we have had with every edition since 3rd in 1998, rather than an overhaul or anything strikingly new. It will most likely address imbalances in the current system, meaning that currently popular choices (which people already have in their collection) will become less powerful and therefore less popular, prompting them to buy new components for their armies and perhaps a 'new army' that now steps up to the plate in terms of effectiveness with the new rules.

At least, that's how it has worked with pretty much every new edition and codex release over the last decade or so

Pacific wrote:

Defeatmyarmy wrote:New game, new Army June 30th? Is the game going to be that different or is a new game being developed? New Army sounds very promising. If this is real, Im looking forward to an update on this stuff, but hopefully the rules arent completely different.

The game will feature slight tweaks to the rules that we currently have, as we have had with every edition since 3rd in 1998, rather than an overhaul or anything strikingly new. It will most likely address imbalances in the current system, meaning that currently popular choices (which people already have in their collection) will become less powerful and therefore less popular, prompting them to buy new components for their armies and perhaps a 'new army' that now steps up to the plate in terms of effectiveness with the new rules.

At least, that's how it has worked with pretty much every new edition and codex release over the last decade or so

Thing is, alot of people lost jobs, don't have the income to start new armies. I was out of work for over 2 years, and only got a temp job. Even with the target at Rich parents who come in one time and spend alot of money, these kids have grown up now, and either started making money themselves or the parents will not be making one time purcheses again. So seeing how GW is "trying" to get vetrans back after ignoring them for the past decaded, it will be interesting to see how 6th edition will be going.

I'm also in the camp that PoS stands for Point of Sale. Advertizing, merchandizing speak.

We'll see in about 9 months, I guess.

Pacific wrote:

Defeatmyarmy wrote:New game, new Army June 30th? Is the game going to be that different or is a new game being developed? New Army sounds very promising. If this is real, Im looking forward to an update on this stuff, but hopefully the rules arent completely different.

The game will feature slight tweaks to the rules that we currently have, as we have had with every edition since 3rd in 1998, rather than an overhaul or anything strikingly new. It will most likely address imbalances in the current system, meaning that currently popular choices (which people already have in their collection) will become less powerful and therefore less popular, prompting them to buy new components for their armies and perhaps a 'new army' that now steps up to the plate in terms of effectiveness with the new rules.

At least, that's how it has worked with pretty much every new edition and codex release over the last decade or so

Oh well, maybe by the time I'm turning 60 the ASM's will be back... I can dream...

Vermillion wrote:

Oh well, maybe by the time I'm turning 60 the ASM's will be back... I can dream...

I generally don't need the tooltip help funtion, and the one time I do it isn't on there! Sorry but what is ASM?

Pacific wrote:Sorry but what is ASM?

Armour Save Modifiers?

I think that the AP system is a pretty solid alternative to AMS, but I would love to see cover saves turned into to hit modifiers instead.

Either I'm going to be stupid obvious or just stupid with this question but isn't GW doing a Hobbit miniature game variation?

Follow up question: when are The Hobbit movies coming out again?

If it IS a hobbit thing, TV Ads are really something that they already did before (at least when they sold LotR minis through Panini like Kiosk distribution).

Scottywan82 wrote:I would guess that PoS in this case is NOT point of sale, but actually an acronym for the new rule box-set. Like IoB for Island of Blood or AoBR for Assault on Black Reach.

That's plausible. 'Prisoner of Something' perhaps? Would be an odd break from form. Don't really give this much credit, though. Even if it is legit, it could be one guys projected plan for a release that could have then been rejected. Seems likely that a new edition will come out around that time, but that's more based on the regular release dates we've seen from previous editions.

"Planet of Skulls" of course
(fits the rumour of Daemons vs. something)

Someone wrote Project Prisoner Planet of Skulls all in the first headline?
Surely, this must be a feint within a feint, within a feint by GWs Council of Secrecy.

Or it could, more logically, be Point/Place of Sale.

It's almost like there's a crazy reason that at the bottom of the photo it says "R=Retail, T=Trade, D=Direct"...

Kroothawk wrote:"Planet of Skulls" of course
(fits the rumour of Daemons vs. something)

As GW are happy to dumb down to stuff like "Island of Blood", this would not surprise me

Eh, Just means now I am going to have to fend off the local GW people while they try to sell me more armies.

Hope 6th is NOT right around the corner, because I won't be playing until the nice pocket rulebook comes out...

Kanluwen wrote:Or it could, more logically, be Point/Place of Sale.
It's almost like there's a crazy reason that at the bottom of the photo it says "R=Retail, T=Trade, D=Direct"...

... and what a coincidence that all non-PoS things in the second table don't take place in-store

Kroothawk wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Or it could, more logically, be Point/Place of Sale.
It's almost like there's a crazy reason that at the bottom of the photo it says "R=Retail, T=Trade, D=Direct"...

... and what a coincidence that all non-PoS things in the second table don't take place in-store

It's madness!

Coincidental madness, I tell you!