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Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 15:28:23


Post by: Castiel


Hello there.

I was recently reading some of the Shadows of the Apt books by Adrian Tchaicovsky, they are really good, and have quite a unique cental basis for the characters based on insects.

Anyway, I was thinking that it would make quite a good basis for a wargame, and was wondering if anyone else had read these books, or any others, and thought that they would make a good wargame?

Happy discussing!

P.S. Not sure if theis would be better in OT or not, I'll let the mods decide!


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 15:43:08


Post by: infinite_array


Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rising.

Oh wait:


Yaaaaaay!


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 15:43:10


Post by: Avatar 720


Lord of the Rings might; as might the Hobbit...


Seriously, some of David Edding's stuff could do reasonably well. There are already pre-determined 'factions', and these 'factions' specialise in some form of something (Nyssians are assassins, Drasnians are spies, Tolnedrans are your jack-of-all-trades footmen, Mimbrate Knights are your heavy cavalry, Algars are your Horse Archers, Chereks are your fear-nothing berserkers etc. etc.), and whilst there is a sort of Good vs Evil theme, nearly all the factions could be given an excuse as to why they're fighting each other.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 15:50:12


Post by: Castiel


Avatar 720 wrote:Lord of the Rings might; as might the Hobbit...


Seriously, some of David Edding's stuff could do reasonably well. There are already pre-determined 'factions', and these 'factions' specialise in some form of something (Nyssians are assassins, Drasnians are spies, Tolnedrans are your jack-of-all-trades footmen, Mimbrate Knights are your heavy cavalry, Algars are your Horse Archers, Chereks are your fear-nothing berserkers etc. etc.), and whilst there is a sort of Good vs Evil theme, nearly all the factions could be given an excuse as to why they're fighting each other.


Good Shout in David Eddings, I've read The Belgariad and the Malloreon, they'd be really good.

The prdetermined factions and Good vs Bad themes were what made me think Shadows of the Apt would be good. You have factions in the Insect Kindens (Mantis kinden are the elite duellists, Ants are highly organised warfare, moths are majic etc), and good vs bad in the Lowlands vs The Wasp Empire.

Any others?


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 16:08:26


Post by: Lord_Vader


Avatar 720 wrote:Lord of the Rings might; as might the Hobbit...


Seriously, some of David Edding's stuff could do reasonably well. There are already pre-determined 'factions', and these 'factions' specialise in some form of something (Nyssians are assassins, Drasnians are spies, Tolnedrans are your jack-of-all-trades footmen, Mimbrate Knights are your heavy cavalry, Algars are your Horse Archers, Chereks are your fear-nothing berserkers etc. etc.), and whilst there is a sort of Good vs Evil theme, nearly all the factions could be given an excuse as to why they're fighting each other.


Ahhh, I love David Eddings... But yeah, his races would do great for a really varied game, but you would be limited to a few styles of play with each race...


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 16:11:40


Post by: JudgeShamgar


Perhaps a little on the "tween" side but Rick Reordan's Heroes of Olympus series might be good. You have factions made up already and a modern day/ancient Greek and Roman god theme.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 16:17:44


Post by: Castiel


JudgeShamgar wrote:Perhaps a little on the "tween" side but Rick Reordan's Heroes of Olympus series might be good. You have factions made up already and a modern day/ancient Greek and Roman god theme.


I'm not familiar with that series, is it any good?


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 16:37:53


Post by: Shotgun


Erikson's Mazalan Empire stuff. You could have the various "empires" (Seven Cities, Mazalan, etc) and then throw in the various holds and warrens.

It could get quite complex actually.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 16:49:55


Post by: Qoppa


I'd be all over a game based on Naomi Novik's Temeraire series. Lots of fun painting opportunities with the dragons, different breeds have different abilities which could make things tactically interesting, and the different factions could be drawn from what the different European nations were up to during the Napoleonic wars.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 16:51:14


Post by: JudgeShamgar


Castiel wrote:
I'm not familiar with that series, is it any good?


They are very good. They are a new stories based on Greek and Roman myths. Follows the life of demi-god children and how they interact with the modern world with ancient ties to the old gods. Check out the link to learn more. I'm sure you could find both series on Amazon in the UK.

http://www.rickriordan.com/home.aspx


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 16:56:26


Post by: Kyrolon


My choices:

John Ringo's Legacy of the Aldanata series.
Travis Taylor's One Day on Mars series.
Jordan's Wheel of Time world has some potential.
Goodkind's Sword of Truth series has some good battles in book 2-4.
The entire Starfist series comes to mind.
Flint's 1632 universe would make an interesting tech blend.
Mike Sheppard's Kris Longknife series is an interesting setting.
And last one on my wish list, Jack Campbell's Lost Fleet series. It's almost as grimdark as 40K sometimes.



Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 16:59:42


Post by: Castiel


Loads of good suggestions! My reading list has expanded a lot too!

Keep them coming!


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 17:01:57


Post by: dripwelquest


Micheal Moorcock's large body of work on the Eternal Champion would make for a good wargame foundation.



Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 17:13:38


Post by: Laughing Man


Would personally love to see something done with Jim Butcher's Aleran Chronicles, although Temeraire is definitely up there. Actually, you could probably come up with something for Temeraire just by fiddling with Napoleonic rules...


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 18:26:18


Post by: chaplaingrabthar


I'm sure it probably exists already, but something based off of George R R Martin's A Song of Ice & Fire series would work pretty well. There's plenty of factions (Starks, Lannisters, Dothraki, Night Watch, The Others etc. etc.)

Also, is there a war game based on Frank Herbert's Dune mythos (Not the stuff by Brian)


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 18:42:44


Post by: Llamahead


Had to laugh at the Eternal Champion mythos being a good source for a wargame it's been done it's called Warhammer. Temeraire is doable with combining historical models with dragons don't know about rules, 1632 likewise and theres a roleplay ruleset out for it. Check out rpgnow.com if you don't believe me.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 18:51:53


Post by: Hückleberry


H.G Wells' Little Wars....oh wait..


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 19:05:21


Post by: Avatar 720


Kyrolon wrote:My choices:

John Ringo's Legacy of the Aldanata series.
Travis Taylor's One Day on Mars series.
Jordan's Wheel of Time world has some potential.
Goodkind's Sword of Truth series has some good battles in book 2-4.The entire Starfist series comes to mind.
Flint's 1632 universe would make an interesting tech blend.
Mike Sheppard's Kris Longknife series is an interesting setting.
And last one on my wish list, Jack Campbell's Lost Fleet series. It's almost as grimdark as 40K sometimes.



Depending on where you are in the series, you may or may not want to open the spoilers (they contain information from across the series, i'd say if you're up to Phantom or Confessor then you're probably fine).

The Sword of Truth could potentially work, but there aren't really large enough factions to call it a wargame. The main enemy in the books was
Spoiler:
Jagang and his giant feth off army
, and that would make for a few fun games until you realise it's just you facing the same enemy time ater time. The other parts of the Midlands aren't really large enough to fuel any large engagements
Spoiler:
(considering that pretty much the whole of the Midlands + D'Hara was outnumbered about 10 to 1 (been a while since I last read the series, so might be off slightly) by Jagang's force, a Midlands Divided game would be on a small scale, and no faction would have anything to really make it stand out from the others, except maybe Kelton, but only because its home to perhaps the finest weaponry in the Midlands.
.

Also, depending on the timeline, it wouldn't make a lot of sense.
Spoiler:
Pre-boundaries it was pretty damn organised under the rule of the Confessors at Aydindril; it was only until D'Hara interferred that any significant war since the Great War came about, and both of those were pretty much two human forces with nothing that really made either side stand out. Even when D'Hara interferred, the boundaries came up and the midlands was fine again, D'Hara couldn't do anything, and the Westlands were peaceful. The Midlands only fell apart when the boundaries failed, but were reunited again by Richard when he became ruler of D'Hara and forged peace with the Midlands to counter the invasion from the Old World, at which point we simply come back to nondescript human army A vs nondescript human army B.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 22:44:46


Post by: dripwelquest


Llamahead wrote:Had to laugh at the Eternal Champion mythos being a good source for a wargame it's been done it's called Warhammer. Temeraire is doable with combining historical models with dragons don't know about rules, 1632 likewise and theres a roleplay ruleset out for it. Check out rpgnow.com if you don't believe me.


Even funnier it that of the seven people I've loaned my copies of the books out to over the years all seven of them felt he was ripping warhammer off to greater and lesser degrees.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 22:51:06


Post by: CT GAMER




Werewolves. Vampires. Teen Angst.

Could be the best skirmish wargame ever...


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 22:52:15


Post by: notprop


It's a bit far fetched on the fluff front but I hear that the Bible has some cracking fight scenes in it?


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 22:54:31


Post by: CT GAMER


notprop wrote:It's a bit far fetched on the fluff front but I hear that the Bible has some cracking fight scenes in it?


Helldorado tried to tap this well.

It gave people in the industry cold feet...


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 22:56:30


Post by: ArbeitsSchu


Castiel wrote:
Avatar 720 wrote:Lord of the Rings might; as might the Hobbit...


Seriously, some of David Edding's stuff could do reasonably well. There are already pre-determined 'factions', and these 'factions' specialise in some form of something (Nyssians are assassins, Drasnians are spies, Tolnedrans are your jack-of-all-trades footmen, Mimbrate Knights are your heavy cavalry, Algars are your Horse Archers, Chereks are your fear-nothing berserkers etc. etc.), and whilst there is a sort of Good vs Evil theme, nearly all the factions could be given an excuse as to why they're fighting each other.


Good Shout in David Eddings, I've read The Belgariad and the Malloreon, they'd be really good.

The prdetermined factions and Good vs Bad themes were what made me think Shadows of the Apt would be good. You have factions in the Insect Kindens (Mantis kinden are the elite duellists, Ants are highly organised warfare, moths are majic etc), and good vs bad in the Lowlands vs The Wasp Empire.

Any others?


Quick Tolnedran Legion conversion: One plastic roman body, one plastic spartan head. Job done.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 23:03:16


Post by: Lt. Coldfire


Harry Potter. Find the deathly hallows and you win.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 23:09:22


Post by: AndrewC


Amtrac Wars?


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 23:37:53


Post by: Castiel


CT GAMER wrote:*Worst suggestion ever*

Werewolves. Vampires. Teen Angst.

Could be the best skirmish wargame ever...


Fetch me my Baal Predator, its the only thing with a big enough flamer to purge this heresy!


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 23:40:21


Post by: CT GAMER


Castiel wrote:
CT GAMER wrote:*Worst suggestion ever*

Werewolves. Vampires. Teen Angst.

Could be the best skirmish wargame ever...


Fetch me my Baal Predator, its the only thing with a big enough flamer to purge this heresy!


I saw your twlilight poster, stop pretending...


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/29 23:58:23


Post by: Castiel


My only poster says "KEEP CALM AND DRINK TEA", I see no Twilight link there?


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/30 00:14:14


Post by: Ouze


Well, I think it already happened, but Starship Troopers.

And, although they have board games already, I'd say Game of Thrones, and the Order of the Stick.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/30 00:21:59


Post by: StringBassKnight


DUNE DUNE DUNE DUNE DUNE.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/30 00:36:42


Post by: A Town Called Malus


StringBassKnight wrote:DUNE DUNE DUNE DUNE DUNE.


Would be a bit unfair.

"I'm playing Ornithopter riding Sardaukar, what are you playing?" asked guy one.

"Sandworm riding Fremen." replied guy two,

"So how can I kill your Sandworms?" queried guy one.

"You have to drown them in water." answered guy two.

"But we're on a desert planet..." said guy one.

"I know, sucks to be you right now doesn't it?" said guy two, "Oh and my army is lead by Paul Muad'dib, which means his prescience allows me to perfectly counter all your attempts to beat me as he already knows what you're going to do."

"..."

"So, you want to play or just forfeit now?"



Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/30 00:37:59


Post by: DarkTraveler777


Call me crazy but I always wanted to wage geometric warfare after reading Flatland.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/30 00:51:05


Post by: A Town Called Malus


Has anyone here read the Bartimaeus trilogy? It's aimed at young teens but the story is still pretty good (and Bartimaeus is a good character)

It's about magicians who use summoned Daemons as the source of their power. So you'd have an army of magicians on each side with a variety of different daemons of varying power (stronger daemons require a stronger magician to control them etc.) under their command.

However, if the magician is slain then all his summoned daemons are sent back to their home plane. Battles would be a careful mix of defending your own magicians and killing your opponents magicians or all their Daemons (though daemons would of course be tougher and harder to kill, except for the really weedy ones).

In a more traditional fantasy setting the Shannara series by Terry Brooks would be great.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/30 00:58:50


Post by: Lostchaplain


I'd love to see a mass-combat Song of Ice and Fire game.
Parafaith War by L.E. Modesitt would make for a wicked cool fleet combat game. As would the Honorverse books.
An Epic-type Hammer's Slammers game would also rock.
A Emberverse wargame would also kick arse. Massed combat with semi-modern materials and styles, car-based vehicles and the like.
And a Deathlands skirmish game. Mowing down masses of stickies with warwag 1? Yes please.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/30 01:51:37


Post by: Brother SRM


AndrewC wrote:Amtrac Wars?

Atlas Shrugged?

I echo the Dune sentiment. You would just have to treat sandriders as really heavy armor so they could actually be killed. At the very least I'd like some Dune minis.

Also, a detective RPG based on Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? would be pretty fun, but Shadowrun kind of covers that.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/30 01:52:48


Post by: Laughing Man


Lostchaplain wrote:Parafaith War by L.E. Modesitt would make for a wicked cool fleet combat game. As would the Honorverse books.

There's already an Honorverse game.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/30 10:35:49


Post by: Castiel


A Town Called Malus wrote:Has anyone here read the Bartimaeus trilogy? It's aimed at young teens but the story is still pretty good (and Bartimaeus is a good character)

It's about magicians who use summoned Daemons as the source of their power. So you'd have an army of magicians on each side with a variety of different daemons of varying power (stronger daemons require a stronger magician to control them etc.) under their command.

However, if the magician is slain then all his summoned daemons are sent back to their home plane. Battles would be a careful mix of defending your own magicians and killing your opponents magicians or all their Daemons (though daemons would of course be tougher and harder to kill, except for the really weedy ones).

In a more traditional fantasy setting the Shannara series by Terry Brooks would be great.


I have, and it would!

I've also read some of Shannara, it might work as well.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/30 10:44:07


Post by: notprop


I thought they made Shanara, think they called it Lord of the Rings or something?


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/11/30 11:01:01


Post by: DarkStarSabre


Sergei Lukyanenko's Night Watch books would make a very interesting basis for a RPG-esque skirmish game, simply because you have plots within plots within plots.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/01 02:48:15


Post by: StringBassKnight


Leviathan trilogy.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/01 04:18:47


Post by: Coolyo294


StringBassKnight wrote:Leviathan trilogy.
This man is smart.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/01 04:25:56


Post by: -Loki-


chaplaingrabthar wrote:I'm sure it probably exists already, but something based off of George R R Martin's A Song of Ice & Fire series would work pretty well. There's plenty of factions (Starks, Lannisters, Dothraki, Night Watch, The Others etc. etc.)

Also, is there a war game based on Frank Herbert's Dune mythos (Not the stuff by Brian)


Dark Sword miniatures have some great stuff from the books. No games, but their miniatures are fantastic.

Very NFSW though.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/01 04:29:28


Post by: Fafnir


If done properly, a skirmish game based around the premise of Neil Gaiman's American Gods could be pretty cool.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/01 04:32:07


Post by: DarkTraveler777


Fafnir wrote:If done properly, a skirmish game based around the premise of Neil Gaiman's American Gods could be pretty cool.


Oh yes!

That would be insanely fun.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/01 08:27:27


Post by: Osyr


John Carter of Mars


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/01 08:54:29


Post by: Llamahead


Hammers Slammers is also available.......


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/01 09:53:25


Post by: Fafnir


DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Fafnir wrote:If done properly, a skirmish game based around the premise of Neil Gaiman's American Gods could be pretty cool.


Oh yes!

That would be insanely fun.


Well... I have a game theory class next semester where we have to design a board game.

Might be fun to try to put together something in a similar vein.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/01 15:27:46


Post by: alphaomega


Coolyo294 wrote:
StringBassKnight wrote:Leviathan trilogy.
This man is smart.


As in by Scott Westerfeld? Yes that would make a brilliant game.

Also the Clockwork Century series by Cherie Priest. Airships, Pirates, Zombies, Steampunk and Cowboys/US Civil War. Would make a very interesting skirmish game.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/01 22:51:47


Post by: GalacticDefender


Dune?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
A Town Called Malus wrote:
StringBassKnight wrote:DUNE DUNE DUNE DUNE DUNE.


Would be a bit unfair.

"I'm playing Ornithopter riding Sardaukar, what are you playing?" asked guy one.

"Sandworm riding Fremen." replied guy two,

"So how can I kill your Sandworms?" queried guy one.

"You have to drown them in water." answered guy two.

"But we're on a desert planet..." said guy one.

"I know, sucks to be you right now doesn't it?" said guy two, "Oh and my army is lead by Paul Muad'dib, which means his prescience allows me to perfectly counter all your attempts to beat me as he already knows what you're going to do."

"..."

"So, you want to play or just forfeit now?"



It could be set during a different time period, like the big war. (The Butleran Jihad or something?)


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/02 00:30:07


Post by: MeanGreenStompa


China Mieville's world of Bas-Lag, as depicted in Perdido Street Station, The Scar and Iron Council.

Masses of civilizations, city states and races all vying for power. All cool concepts.



Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/02 00:56:35


Post by: Grot 6


Three of them...

Legion of the Damned, by William Deitz

A scifi army of robots, cyborgs, etc. that fight aliens.

Heros in Hell series, by Jan Morris.

the Inferno series by Larry Niven.

These three books would all be good RPG's, or Tabletop games.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/05 09:13:13


Post by: Eeps


Harry Potter - Quidditch the Tabletop game - "99 problems, but a snitch aint one"


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/05 09:59:54


Post by: Jag_Calle


Mutant Chronicles/Doomtroopers... Target games made some tabletop skirmish game for it, but it never really took off. Still have some ducal militia, trenchers and ashigaru collecting dust.. The minis never reached the greatness of the artwork..

Loved the imagery in the books/comics.. Especially brotherhood and bauhaus ...

Still, i'm considering using the ducal militia to make a small IG force, or convert into skiitari...

//Calle

(edit: the tabletop game was called warzone...)


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/05 10:38:21


Post by: Mad4Minis


Castiel wrote:
A Town Called Malus wrote:Has anyone here read the Bartimaeus trilogy? It's aimed at young teens but the story is still pretty good (and Bartimaeus is a good character)

It's about magicians who use summoned Daemons as the source of their power. So you'd have an army of magicians on each side with a variety of different daemons of varying power (stronger daemons require a stronger magician to control them etc.) under their command.

However, if the magician is slain then all his summoned daemons are sent back to their home plane. Battles would be a careful mix of defending your own magicians and killing your opponents magicians or all their Daemons (though daemons would of course be tougher and harder to kill, except for the really weedy ones).

In a more traditional fantasy setting the Shannara series by Terry Brooks would be great.


I have, and it would!

I've also read some of Shannara, it might work as well.


Hmmm...an army almost completely dependent on their magician leader, that loses most or all its fighting abilities without said leader...sounds like Warmachine/Hordes to me. Which basically means you already have the rules available...now you need fluff and minis.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Jag_Calle wrote:Mutant Chronicles/Doomtroopers... Target games made some tabletop skirmish game for it, but it never really took off. Still have some ducal militia, trenchers and ashigaru collecting dust.. The minis never reached the greatness of the artwork..

Loved the imagery in the books/comics.. Especially brotherhood and bauhaus ...

Still, i'm considering using the ducal militia to make a small IG force, or convert into skiitari...

//Calle

(edit: the tabletop game was called warzone...)


I played some Warzone back in the day, had some Bauhaus troops. I liked the game, shame it never took off.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/05 10:52:17


Post by: Tzarkahn


Richard Morgan's Market Forces, It's been sort of done in other incarnations under different IPs I think, but as a sort of Road Wars type game.



Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/05 15:32:53


Post by: English Assassin


MeanGreenStompa wrote:China Mieville's world of Bas-Lag, as depicted in Perdido Street Station, The Scar and Iron Council.

Masses of civilizations, city states and races all vying for power. All cool concepts.

This would be fabulous. Mieville is renowned for being a big geek, so I can imagine he might be quite enthusiastic about a Bas-Lag wargame (or a board game, for that matter).

A game based upon Gene Wolfe's 'Book of the New Sun'/'Book of the Long Sun' worlds would make me very happy indeed.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/05 15:55:19


Post by: whigwam


The Mahabharata.
The Ramayana.
The Iliad.

All would have a similar appeal to 40k. Gods, spirits, monsters, and demons fighting against and alongside humanity and its numerous champions. Over-the-top powers being hurled back and forth, magic and death everywhere. I'd particularly like to stage a battle between Rama and Ravana's armies...although with Ravana's 10 heads and 20 arms, he wouldn't be very easy to paint.

P.S. The Odyssey might make a good RPG if you played fast and loose with the storyline.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/05 16:12:22


Post by: English Assassin


whigwam wrote:P.S. The Odyssey might make a good RPG if you played fast and loose with the storyline.

It would certainly make a much-loved Saturday morning cartoon...

And yes, I could be tempted by a mythic ancients wargame; actually I'd be surprised if somebody hasn't already released one.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/05 16:22:34


Post by: Wolfstan


David Gemmell

Both the world that Druss inhabits as well as Jon Shannow.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/05 19:56:03


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


What about A Clockwork Orange, as a sort of skirmish game?


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/05 20:04:45


Post by: bloodaxegit


Posting this for a friend: Books by David Gemmel; waylander and the like


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/05 22:50:19


Post by: Trondheim


Fafnir wrote:If done properly, a skirmish game based around the premise of Neil Gaiman's American Gods could be pretty cool.


THIS! I would enjoy this very much, lord how hillarious it would be


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/06 05:09:55


Post by: porkchop806


Tom Clancy's Red October "a naval warfare stratagy game"


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/06 05:18:54


Post by: malfred


To all you Dune fans.

My faith in humanity is restored.

For now.

Thank you for posting.

I for one would not want the Butlerian Jihad. That story (the writing) aggravated
me. I'd just like a skirmish game dealing with kanly. Troops with ballistics, knives,
armor, etc.

And also, there is this for inspiration:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Fremen%20Army%20Pt.1

God, I love that army.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/06 05:38:39


Post by: MajorTom11


Malfred is the Quisatz Hadderach!

Dune would be great as a skirmish game. So would Game of Thrones... the usual issue will be unit variety, but it can be dealt with.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/06 07:36:54


Post by: Kyrolon


porkchop806 wrote:Tom Clancy's Red October "a naval warfare stratagy game"


Did you know that the naval sequences in Red October and Red Storm Rising were based on wargames actually played by Clancy and Larry Bond? I am not sure if they actually played one another, or how involved Bond was directly, but they were gamed using Harpoon.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/06 11:03:55


Post by: ChocolateGork


The Honorverse


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/06 12:21:56


Post by: Castiel


Wow, I've been away for the weekend, and there are loads of great suggestions! Thanks!

I also had another thought. Has anyone read any of Brent Weeks' books? The Night Angel trilogy would make a great game, and his Lightbringer books look like they will be the same. Thoughts?


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/06 14:41:56


Post by: English Assassin


It occurs to me that quite a few of these suggestions wouldn't require anything so drastic as a complete rulesset, just unit rules, lists and some thematic modifications to established rules.

Modifying, for instance, Kings of War's rules, to represent Michael Moorcock's or David Gemmel's universes would be a doddle, and methinks rather good fun.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/06 14:52:12


Post by: malfred


Hordes of the Things for science-fiction

http://web.archive.org/web/20061206064922/http://www.barr.karoo.net/hws/dbx/hottscifi.htm

It will take you to the Wayback Machine, but don't mind
that. Hordes of the Things is a generic Fantasy rules-set that
templates everything.



Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/06 17:39:26


Post by: MasticatorDeelux


GW's 'Will it Sue?", based on the manuscript of events entailing the GW/CH lawsuit. Special characters include John Cochran, Jim "The Hammer" Shapiro and many others!


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/06 17:49:55


Post by: Maelstrom808


For large-scale fantasy settings, I'd like to see Raymond Feist's world of Midkemia realized into a TT game.

I absolutely love the ideas of either American Gods or Night Watch as a skirmish game.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/06 23:36:39


Post by: Mr Hyena


H.P Lovecraft's work could make a very interesting game.

Dune as well.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/07 06:34:24


Post by: frozenwastes


Mr Hyena wrote:H.P Lovecraft's work could make a very interesting game.


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Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/07 08:15:49


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


Conan the Barbarian, as a skirmish game


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/07 23:39:26


Post by: Grot 6


frozenwastes wrote:
Mr Hyena wrote:H.P Lovecraft's work could make a very interesting game.


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Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/11 16:57:38


Post by: Nicorex


Melvills "Moby Dick"


Nivens "FootFall". Lack of variety since its just humans vs Elephants but there is land and space war.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/15 05:05:39


Post by: KingmanHighborn


Even though Chris Roberts created it, William Forstchen and others made it into some of the best novels out there, so Wing Commander. Withs it's tons of Terran Confederation and Kilrathi fighters and cap ships, add in the Nepehilim, and other factions like the Border Worlds and the Landreich and you got an amazing potential for a game that would blow BFG out of the water, as fighters, bombers and carriers would actually have major purposes.

It'd also be nice to paint up some Hellcats and Dralthi fighters.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/15 13:45:38


Post by: Vampirate of Sartosa


On a semi-related note, Monster Blood Tattoo would make an excellent roleplay.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/15 13:59:21


Post by: EmilCrane


A quirky skirmish game based on discworld could be fun, hell even a bigger battles one would be cool too

Semi-related: Dragon Age and Elder Scrolls, not books but still deserve wargames IMHO


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/15 16:35:23


Post by: greenskin lynn


Vampirate of Sartosa wrote:On a semi-related note, Monster Blood Tattoo would make an excellent roleplay.


you could probably make a decent skirmish game also, or a board game, now that i give it some thought


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/15 17:13:22


Post by: Necroagogo


How about The Day of the Triffids? A few plucky survivors against hordes of carnivorous plants.

or. you could run it like Battleships if anyone gets blinded.


The League of Extraordinary Gantlemen migth make a fun, small-scale skirmish game too.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/15 17:52:33


Post by: Fido198674


EmilCrane wrote:A quirky skirmish game based on discworld could be fun, hell even a bigger battles one would be cool too

Semi-related: Dragon Age and Elder Scrolls, not books but still deserve wargames IMHO


Have to agree with Dragon Age, I think it would pretty cool.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/15 18:11:26


Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin


Although a movie foremost, reccent graphic novels sorta placed it in the book section as well.

Based on that, I always wanted a Skirmish or Warhammer Quest style game based on the Labyrinth. Players play characters either based on mortals trapped in the Labyrinth trying to get out via the Goblin city, or generally adventuring with in it.
On a skirmish front you could access factions based around Goblins, rag tag groups (much like the one Sarah ends up with) the Fire Gang, and various other weird denizens of the Labyrinth.

Other than that, something based around the World of Darkness would be good. Werewolf packs, either tribe based or pack, Vampires in coeteries or Clan based, perhaps a mix. Also Wyrm minions with Black Spiral Dancers, Pentex and/or Banes, could have them mixed/seperate. Plus Witch Hunters, Police Force for those who like to take on the underdog, Mages etc.
Probably work best as a Skirmish game, but that would be something I could really get my teeth into.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/15 18:16:18


Post by: Hordini


War and Peace! Oh wait....

For real though, Maelstrom808 already mentioned it, but you could do some sweet fantasy battles in Feist's Midkemia universe. Traditional medieval infantry and heavy cavalry from Midkemia vs. lacquered-armored Tsurani or Pentathians or what have you. A lot of options there.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/15 18:58:18


Post by: KingmanHighborn


Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Although a movie foremost, reccent graphic novels sorta placed it in the book section as well.

Based on that, I always wanted a Skirmish or Warhammer Quest style game based on the Labyrinth. Players play characters either based on mortals trapped in the Labyrinth trying to get out via the Goblin city, or generally adventuring with in it.
On a skirmish front you could access factions based around Goblins, rag tag groups (much like the one Sarah ends up with) the Fire Gang, and various other weird denizens of the Labyrinth.


I could go for that just for the chance to paint a David Bowie mini, while singing 'Dance Magic Dance'


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/19 23:58:17


Post by: dripwelquest


Iain M. Banks' series The Culture might make for a nice base.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/20 00:08:13


Post by: Great White


The Inheritance cycle(Eragon books) seems like a cool game of army and Dragon wars


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/20 20:11:50


Post by: Balance


dripwelquest wrote:Iain M. Banks' series The Culture might make for a nice base.


"OK, your crewed battlefleet shot at my GSV. 20 shots, four hits, so It ake 4 points of shield damage. OK, my turn. my GSV launches 10 'Gangster' class ROUs, each of which has a half dozen drones that Displace over and start disabling your crew. If you manage to kill any of the ROU ships you only get half VPs as they've fully backed up their mind-state. I get sixty dice, 56 hits, so that's eleven ships uncrewed. Now for some gridfire from the GSV itself and the rest of your fleet is now debris."

"Oh, but despite tabling your entire army, I lose as the Culture is theoretically pacifists anyway and I killed too many sentients. Dang. Play again?"


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/20 20:24:22


Post by: Mr. Burning


A discworld table top game would be awesome. You could probably pick and mix some current rules and come up with some pretty nifty skirmish based games for inside Ankh Morporkh and the like.




Automatically Appended Next Post:
Necroagogo wrote:

The League of Extraordinary Gantlemen migth make a fun, small-scale skirmish game too.


Prety much any steam punk/VSF themed rulseset could amply serve.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/20 22:43:29


Post by: dripwelquest


Balance wrote:
dripwelquest wrote:Iain M. Banks' series The Culture might make for a nice base.


"OK, your crewed battlefleet shot at my GSV. 20 shots, four hits, so It ake 4 points of shield damage. OK, my turn. my GSV launches 10 'Gangster' class ROUs, each of which has a half dozen drones that Displace over and start disabling your crew. If you manage to kill any of the ROU ships you only get half VPs as they've fully backed up their mind-state. I get sixty dice, 56 hits, so that's eleven ships uncrewed. Now for some gridfire from the GSV itself and the rest of your fleet is now debris."

"Oh, but despite tabling your entire army, I lose as the Culture is theoretically pacifists anyway and I killed too many sentients. Dang. Play again?"


Well every game would suck if you gave it a stupid mechanic, how fun would 40k be if having an Inquisitor allowed you to call for an exterminatus auto-win?


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/20 23:48:43


Post by: Leo_the_Rat


I'm shocked that no one has suggested Glenn Cook's Black Company books. Someone published one RPG book for it but it didn't do the books justice (IMHO).


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/21 01:08:02


Post by: Great White


Maybe cook books


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/21 01:12:23


Post by: Avatar 720


Great White wrote:Maybe cook books


"Parsley is overpowered!"
"Don't use as much Basil then."


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/21 18:06:14


Post by: dripwelquest


I hate that Thyme is an auto-include in butter dishes.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/21 18:16:57


Post by: Pipboy101


Rick Shelley's Second Commonwelth books or the Dirigent Mercenary Corps books. All written with wargaming in mind.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/23 15:39:12


Post by: Balance


dripwelquest wrote:
Balance wrote:
dripwelquest wrote:Iain M. Banks' series The Culture might make for a nice base.


"OK, your crewed battlefleet shot at my GSV. 20 shots, four hits, so It ake 4 points of shield damage. OK, my turn. my GSV launches 10 'Gangster' class ROUs, each of which has a half dozen drones that Displace over and start disabling your crew. If you manage to kill any of the ROU ships you only get half VPs as they've fully backed up their mind-state. I get sixty dice, 56 hits, so that's eleven ships uncrewed. Now for some gridfire from the GSV itself and the rest of your fleet is now debris."

"Oh, but despite tabling your entire army, I lose as the Culture is theoretically pacifists anyway and I killed too many sentients. Dang. Play again?"


Well every game would suck if you gave it a stupid mechanic, how fun would 40k be if having an Inquisitor allowed you to call for an exterminatus auto-win?


It was meant as a joke, but so much of the combat in Culture novels is pretty much over before it started. The Idiran war was presumably a little less one-sided, but that's a rare exception.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/23 21:25:36


Post by: DoctorZombie


Stephen Hunt's Jackelian series, without a doubt.


Books that would make good wargames. @ 2011/12/29 02:58:03


Post by: Lanceradvanced


Vampirate of Sartosa wrote:On a semi-related note, Monster Blood Tattoo would make an excellent roleplay.


I second the motion.....