So I was out late this afternoon with "the guys" watching some college football and drinking beer and rum.

I was the first one to leave, I left a bit early, the college games were not exciting and wanted to get home to cook dinner for my girl friend who I promised to make her favorite dish. Spaghetti with eggplant parmigiana and garlic bread, and picked up a bottle of her favorite red wine (Casella Wines' Yellow Tail Merlot, luckily it is cheap as hell).

I never thought about it as being whipped as I enjoy doing it and she loves my cooking so makes me happy. My friends see it as being whipped and another result of the new age "equal partnership".


I do see going to art shows and plays as being whipped though. Hate them, but she loves them and I love seeing her smile.

No.

It's a bit weird to think of showing care and affection for a loved one as being "whipped".

It seems such a "hyper-masculine" concept. Maybe there's some homosexual bonding sub-text going on.

Piston Honda wrote: My friends see it as being whipped and another result of the new age "equal partnership".

If your friends equate these two things, you need new friends.


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Piston Honda wrote:
I do see going to art shows and plays as being whipped though. Hate them, but she loves them and I love seeing her smile.

So long as you aren't doing more for her than she does for you, then I don't see why its being "whipped" unless "whipped" means "having a health relationship."

Im aggressively macho and even i don't see how that makes you whipped!

If you enjoy it, that's reason enough to do it.

Surely by definition you can only be whipped if you do things you hate just because your misses forces you into it. Thus if you derive pleasure from these things your doing it because you like it not because your whipped by the missus.

Im sure your mates are just taking the piss, I doubt anyone would think that merely cooking makes you a slave to your girlfriend anyway!

dogma wrote:

Piston Honda wrote: My friends see it as being whipped and another result of the new age "equal partnership".

If your friends equate these two things, you need new friends.


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Piston Honda wrote:
I do see going to art shows and plays as being whipped though. Hate them, but she loves them and I love seeing her smile.

So long as you aren't doing more for her than she does for you, then I don't see why its being "whipped" unless "whipped" means "having a health relationship."

Well I do like to be physically whipped. And spanked.


But that's another problem I have.

mattyrm wrote:
Im sure your mates are just taking the piss, I doubt anyone would think that merely cooking makes you a slave to your girlfriend anyway!

Well, no one that isn't an awful misogynist.

dogma wrote:

mattyrm wrote:
Im sure your mates are just taking the piss, I doubt anyone would think that merely cooking makes you a slave to your girlfriend anyway!

Well, no one that isn't an awful misogynist.

Maybe he's friends with Russell Crowe!

Nah, he only forces his phone (number) on men.

My wife is truly dreadful at cooking. If I didn't cook, we would either starve or subsist entirely on takeaway.

Cooking for ones significant other isnt a sign of whippage. Its a sign of knowing how to appease our savage overlor... uhh i mean wives and girlfriends...

My mates used to give me grief about me cooking the odd meal for my better half or even taking her out to dinner on the rare occasion. But when some of them came to the realisation that a boyfriend who can cook earns MAJOR brownie points the grief giving stopped. Hell even attempting to cook usually earns you at least some cred.

dogma wrote:Nah, he only forces his phone (number) on men.

I've thought of a better one..

Sean "sometimes they need a slap" Connery!

Being whipped means your being controlled by a girl, and your personality and habits change because of it.

If you cook because you like to, it's all good.
If you cook because she tells you to, you're whipped.

I guess your friends also think she should do all the cleaning and tidying lest you appear whipped.

My wife does most of the cooking, but that's because I'm not very good at it and she quite likes it. But I have cooked simple things for her many times.

Howard A Treesong wrote:

My wife does most of the cooking, but that's because I'm not very good at it and she quite likes it. But I have cooked simple things for her many times.

This is roughly what I do, though I'm not a terrible cook. I can cook easy stuff really well. Nothing that requires precision or patience.

Its what you enjoy. I do the majority of cooking but I do enjoy cooking overall....and grilling

Your friends are probably just winding you up. It sounds from your post like you have a normal relationship with your girlfriend. I mean, if she was demanding her favourite meal and wine from you, that's different.

Little gestures can end up getting big rewards.

Cooking, a spot of cleaning, watching Twighlight with your lady.

Your sex life just ends up better.

Mr. Burning wrote:...watching Twighlight with your lady.

Now lets not be too hasty.

Nope, not whipped at all. Id say whipped, would of been you watching the game with the guys, enjoying yourself, she phones in a little "Im lonely" and you just take off. I cook for the wife (and kids) often. I enjoy cooking too, soooooo your friends are dolts

If you like cooking, what's wrong with it?

Your friends are total douchebags.

A lot of guys have got the wrong idea about cooking.

The key thing to realise is that once you've cooked some stuff you can eat it.

mattyrm wrote: Im sure your mates are just taking the piss, I doubt anyone would think that merely cooking makes you a slave to your girlfriend anyway!

I've been around enough douchebags not to have similar doubts.

I mean hell, I know a woman who was accused of being a lesbian because she wanted the guys she went out with (and she only went out with guys, as she was heterosexual) wanted all dates to be paid half and half.

Douchebaggery like this isn't uncommon...

Ok Melissia, I think you need to take a step back and breathe or something. Im pretty sure his buds were mostly fething with him. No need to go and start a rampage against men from some harmless fun

KingCracker wrote:Ok Melissia, I think you need to take a step back and breathe or something. Im pretty sure his buds were mostly fething with him. No need to go and start a rampage against men from some harmless fun

Here's another example of exactly what I'm talking about. Some sees something I said, and then jumps off on a wild tangent and assumes that I'm being ultrafeminist.

How droll and unintelligent.

Did I say that the MEN were claiming she was a lesbian, now? I'm not "rampaging against men", that's just stupid and you should be ashamed of yourself for saying it.

Melissia wrote:

mattyrm wrote: Im sure your mates are just taking the piss, I doubt anyone would think that merely cooking makes you a slave to your girlfriend anyway!

I've been around enough douchebags not to have similar doubts.

I mean hell, I know a woman who was accused of being a lesbian because she wanted the guys she went out with (and she only went out with guys, as she was heterosexual) wanted all dates to be paid half and half.

Douchebaggery like this isn't uncommon...

Just saying, you make it PRETTY easy to tell where your going with this.

KingCracker wrote:Just saying, you make it PRETTY easy to tell where your going with this.

And yet, you still failed to do so.

Howard A Treesong wrote:

Mr. Burning wrote:...watching Twighlight with your lady.

Now lets not be too hasty.

I cant be too explicit but watching Twilight has ended up with me having 'fun times' with the wife. Give a little 'get' a little and all that!

Something about the love story and hot, shirtless guys is my guess, but I also have enjoyed those movies with the wife

Also, if you watch Twilight ironically and mock it a la MST3k, it can even be kinda fun.

"Chef" is a masculine word, and cooking is a manly activity, like eating raw red meat, and beating people up. The better question is, why would "friends" want you not to do something manly ?

I don't know exactly what is to blame, so I'll blame the internet, but there has been a slight rise in "He Man Woman Hater" clubs over the last few years. They still are in the minority but I wouldn't be surprised if they had some impact over younger readers that venture to places they shouldn't, like say 4chan.

It's always the internet's fault especially when it isn't.

Like the others in the thread I don't consider it to be a negative in the slightest.

I cook for my wife because,
a. I'm good at it,
and,
b. I enjoy it.

We should make a new term called friendwhipped, where your friends can force you to stop doing things you like and keep doing things you hate, at the cost of your relationship and general enjoyment of life.

I wish I had a girlfriend to cook for, but enough of me feeling sorry for myself, as others have said it sounds like your friends are either a: jealous or b: immature, it wouldn't surprise me if they shouted out "Bro's before Ho's" at you before you left from how you put it.

Melissia wrote:We should make a new term called friendwhipped, where your friends can force you to stop doing things you like and keep doing things you hate, at the cost of your relationship and general enjoyment of life.

Second.


Alternative could be browhipped, essentially the same thing but more for specific instances like this.

Philld77 wrote:"Bro's before Ho's"

Seriously though, if Cooking for your Gal is being Whipped, I'm totally fethed. I love to cook and I love to bake cookies.....

HudsonD wrote:"Chef" is a masculine word, and cooking is a manly activity, like eating raw red meat, and beating people up. The better question is, why would "friends" want you not to do something manly ?

I wouldnt say that like!

I mean, I don't think cooking is unmanly, but I wouldn't call it manly because it requires little strength.

Manly is like.. Bear Wrestling or Cage Fighting or something!

No, I love cooking and I cook for just about everyone I can.

n0t_u wrote:

Melissia wrote:We should make a new term called friendwhipped, where your friends can force you to stop doing things you like and keep doing things you hate, at the cost of your relationship and general enjoyment of life.

Second.


Alternative could be browhipped, essentially the same thing but more for specific instances like this.

There is already a perfectly good word for it, 'spineless'.

My dad was a chef, I grew up around the firey hell pit of a large restaurant/hotel kitchen. My mum can burn water. I love cooking, it's a talent and if you're good at it, all power to you.

And being good at it makes you more attractive to your woman and women in general.

No, it doesn't. Frankly anyone who actually uses the term "Whipped" seriously is a particularly annoying breed of dumb ass.

mattyrm wrote:

HudsonD wrote:"Chef" is a masculine word, and cooking is a manly activity, like eating raw red meat, and beating people up. The better question is, why would "friends" want you not to do something manly ?

I wouldnt say that like!

I mean, I don't think cooking is unmanly, but I wouldn't call it manly because it requires little strength.

Manly is like.. Bear Wrestling or Cage Fighting or something!

Yes I do agree with you there Matt. but back on topic, No cooking dose not make you whipped. It is a very wise thing to do in a relationship, it dose wonders

mattyrm wrote:

dogma wrote:Nah, he only forces his phone (number) on men.

I've thought of a better one..

Sean "sometimes they need a slap" Connery!

I've probably said this before, but you and I must enjoy afternoon tea (read: get hammered) together at some point.


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Melissia wrote:
Douchebaggery like this isn't uncommon...

You are a denizen of the internet, and I assume you play video games, so there is that.

However, no offense intended, but you do seem quite sensitive where gender is mentioned.

My current girlfriend actually brags about my cooking, mainly because I am good at it. Some of the women she has told have even expressed jealousy due to same. I also bake. Recently created a sensation among same by using left over "Pixie Stix(TM)" to make sugar cookies.

Whipped? No..... I learned to cook out of self preservation and survival. My sisters are dreadful cooks.

As for it being "manly": Ever tried lifting a stuffed 20lb turkey out of a roasting hot oven?

dogma wrote:

mattyrm wrote:

dogma wrote:Nah, he only forces his phone (number) on men.

I've thought of a better one..

Sean "sometimes they need a slap" Connery!

I've probably said this before, but you and I must enjoy afternoon tea (read: get hammered) together at some point.

It's harder getting together for a pint with an American cos your country is too big! If your ever in the UK I will happily meet you for 15 pints and some hairy sweaty chunks of flesh in a piece of bread (kebab)

Oh and I'm off to San Diego, Santa Barbara and LA for three weeks next month if that's any use to you.


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helgrenze wrote:My current girlfriend actually brags about my cooking, mainly because I am good at it. Some of the women she has told have even expressed jealousy due to same. I also bake. Recently created a sensation among same by using left over "Pixie Stix(TM)" to make sugar cookies.

Whipped? No..... I learned to cook out of self preservation and survival. My sisters are dreadful cooks.

As for it being "manly": Ever tried lifting a stuffed 20lb turkey out of a roasting hot oven?

I did say that cooking wasnt in any way effeminate or anything, I just think that cooking is clearly not manly either because, well.. define manly!

To me its basically "something that requires intestinal fortitude" you know, so it might be extremely physically demanding, or mentally demanding, and Im sorry, but cooking is neither of those things. I'm an alight cook because my missus is an exceptional one and she has taught me! I can make great Mexican food, Im class at doing rice and beans ans such.. But Ive never once had the adrenalin pumping when I've been opening a can of corned beef.

If we ate Dinosaurs and you had to fight them before you could eat them I would concede the point.

Do you consider cooking for your gal being "whipped"?

Did someone somehow just transport us back to the 1950's? Seriously.

I cook 99% of the time, to the point that the Mistress gets hungry and then asks what's for dinner. I love cooking for her. At times (usually when we're both stoned) she'll want me to make something for her and I'm too out of it to care, and we still survive somehow.

On the topic that someone else might actually care about, has the amount of time you spend with your friends changed because of her? If that's the case, anything she wants you to do will seem like you being "whipped."

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:On the topic that someone else might actually care about, has the amount of time you spend with your friends changed because of her?

You always have more time to spend with friends when you're single. It's just like getting another non-romantic friend, you divide your time between them.

No way

cooking for your woman is manly. A man that can't cook is not a man IMO

DIDM wrote: A man that can't cook is not a man IMO

I can cook so this is not self interest speaking, but isn't that as stupid as saying that a man who can cook is manly?

What makes you a "man" is purely the concept of an individual. To me it might be something totally different to you, but needless to say, I don't see how if you take someone that has done something astonishingly brave, and then ask him if he can cook, when he replies "No I am an awful cook" how on earth does that make him "less" of a "man"?

I think that statement is as daft as the OP's friends one about being whipped!

My gf does all the cooking.
She actually forbade me to cook, not that I´m bad at it, far from but she just likes doing the cooking.

I dont much mind, it´s pretty neat actually.

To the OP: Cooking because you like to for your GF or significant other is not being "whipped", them calling you in the middle of the football game, "asking" you to come home to cook and you going home to cook is, excepting in extreme circumstances (like she can burn water or something to that effect in the kitchen)

mattyrm wrote:

DIDM wrote: A man that can't cook is not a man IMO

I can cook so this is not self interest speaking, but isn't that as stupid as saying that a man who can cook is manly?

What makes you a "man" is purely the concept of an individual. To me it might be something totally different to you, but needless to say, I don't see how if you take someone that has done something astonishingly brave, and then ask him if he can cook, when he replies "No I am an awful cook" how on earth does that make him "less" of a "man"?

I think that statement is as daft as the OP's friends one about being whipped!

a man who can't cook is still a boy

makes perfect sense in my mind.

Piston Honda wrote:So I was out late this afternoon with "the guys" watching some college football and drinking beer and rum.

I was the first one to leave, I left a bit early, the college games were not exciting and wanted to get home to cook dinner for my girl friend who I promised to make her favorite dish. Spaghetti with eggplant parmigiana and garlic bread, and picked up a bottle of her favorite red wine (Casella Wines' Yellow Tail Merlot, luckily it is cheap as hell).

I never thought about it as being whipped as I enjoy doing it and she loves my cooking so makes me happy. My friends see it as being whipped and another result of the new age "equal partnership".


I do see going to art shows and plays as being whipped though. Hate them, but she loves them and I love seeing her smile.

Important question: how many of them are in long term relationships?

How many of them are happy?

Just let them talk. They probably don't know anything.

mattyrm wrote:

DIDM wrote: A man that can't cook is not a man IMO

I can cook so this is not self interest speaking, but isn't that as stupid as saying that a man who can cook is manly?

What makes you a "man" is purely the concept of an individual. To me it might be something totally different to you, but needless to say, I don't see how if you take someone that has done something astonishingly brave, and then ask him if he can cook, when he replies "No I am an awful cook" how on earth does that make him "less" of a "man"?

I think that statement is as daft as the OP's friends one about being whipped!

Actually, the man in you example does not deny being able to cook, he just admits it is something he isn't very good at. If he had said "No, That is women's work" then yeah, he would be less of a man. Bravery isn't a solo indicator of "manhood". The ability to admit a fault, such as being bad at something, could be.

dogma wrote:However, no offense intended, but you do seem quite sensitive where gender is mentioned.

I'm not sensitive on the topic of gender so much as I am sensitive about people claiming I believe something I don't.

It just so happens that a lot of people do this on the topic of gender because of their own inherent biases, trolling tendencies, or ignorance.

Piston Honda wrote:So I was out late this afternoon with "the guys" watching some college football and drinking beer and rum.

I was the first one to leave, I left a bit early, the college games were not exciting and wanted to get home to cook dinner for my girl friend who I promised to make her favorite dish. Spaghetti with eggplant parmigiana and garlic bread, and picked up a bottle of her favorite red wine (Casella Wines' Yellow Tail Merlot, luckily it is cheap as hell).

I never thought about it as being whipped as I enjoy doing it and she loves my cooking so makes me happy. My friends see it as being whipped and another result of the new age "equal partnership".


I do see going to art shows and plays as being whipped though. Hate them, but she loves them and I love seeing her smile.

Two options:

1. Your friends are just trying to take the piss out of you (guys are compelled/conditioned to engage in this kind of teasing)

2. Your friend are knuckle dragging morons.

I cook and do laundry. I Enjoy cooking. I also prefer laundry to be done in a certain way. Being whipped has nothing to do with either.

Also there is no shame in being a loving person who likes to do things for one's partner.

Just tell your friends you would like to leave before they start the "circle jerk" as it isn't what you are into...

DIDM wrote:

mattyrm wrote:

DIDM wrote: A man that can't cook is not a man IMO

I can cook so this is not self interest speaking, but isn't that as stupid as saying that a man who can cook is manly?

What makes you a "man" is purely the concept of an individual. To me it might be something totally different to you, but needless to say, I don't see how if you take someone that has done something astonishingly brave, and then ask him if he can cook, when he replies "No I am an awful cook" how on earth does that make him "less" of a "man"?

I think that statement is as daft as the OP's friends one about being whipped!

a man who can't cook is still a boy

makes perfect sense in my mind.

A man is someone who is prepared to ignore silly opinions and concepts like this, and do what THEY want to do, regardless of societal or peer pressure. Be it cooking, not cooking, wearing kilts, or joining the Royal Marines.

Uhhh no. Of course my Girl is a good friend of mine and I cook better.

Melissia wrote:We should make a new term called friendwhipped, where your friends can force you to stop doing things you like and keep doing things you hate

It's called "being a male".

Male peer pressure is a strong thing, often fueld by equal parts sexism homophobia and testosterone.

It's why guys watch a boring sport like baseball, waste time watching horrible action/horror/sci-fi movies, and listen to various forms of awful "metal". failure to do so is to be labeled and ridiculed as somehow "not manly".

God forbid you don't like/enjoy what "real men" enjoy, that might mean you a "homo", "sissy" or "whipped", etc.

Sometimes it is done in jest or to poke good natured fun, but it has a far deeper cultural root and is ingrained in most males...

CT GAMER wrote:It's called "being a male".

You seem to think that this is not something that women experience.

You are wrong, of course.

I do have to ask the OP if these relationship gurus you call friends have girlfriends and wives? Because if not, their 'advice' is particularly dodgy.

CT GAMER wrote:Male peer pressure is a strong thing, often fueld by equal parts sexism homophobia and testosterone.

You forgot alcohol....

Melissia wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:It's called "being a male".

You seem to think that this is not something that women experience.

You are wrong, of course.

I don't think he said that women don't experience peer pressure.

Cheesecat wrote:

Melissia wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:It's called "being a male".

You seem to think that this is not something that women experience.

You are wrong, of course.

I don't think he said that women don't experience peer pressure.

Of course they do. Never stated otherwise.

My point was that unfortunately the behavior the OP describes is the norm for most males raised in Western society (maybe elsewhere too, not sure) who have been conditioned by said societie's usual assumed/expected gender roles to follow along with said stereotyping and gender teasing.


Sometimes it is in fun between friends. Sometimes it is much more uncomfortable and hostile.






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helgrenze wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:Male peer pressure is a strong thing, often fueld by equal parts sexism homophobia and testosterone.

You forgot alcohol....

Right alcohol: which all too often elicits the the unfortunate effect of erasing all inhabitions of said individuals to say/act like cro-magnon douche bags.


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Melissia wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:It's called "being a male".

You seem to think that this is not something that women experience.

You are wrong, of course.

You seem to want to assume you know what I think.

The discussion at hand was men acting and saying gender-stereotypical things; thus I focused my comments on that discussion.

What women do/dont experience didn't factor into my response one way or the other...

i don't see it as whipped.

I mean, I live with my girlfriend and I do almost all the cooking (occasionally we order in).
The reasons I do it are twofold.
1: I rather enjoy cooking, I have since I was about 7 or 8, and after numerous years of trial-and-error I feel I've become a reasonable amatuer chef.
2: She can't cook for beans. She can generally make sandwichs but she mauls the cheese (it ends up looking like a climbing wall).

Also there is no shame in being a loving person who likes to do things for one's partner.

But then if it doesnt go BOTH ways you are a.......tooooool!

For a slightly different view...

I do the vast majority of cooking in this team. Not because I particularly like it, not because I'm better at it than my wife, but because with the recent economic problems my decent job went overseas (Thanks, GWB) and my wife retains her decent job. While I do work, it is kinda-semi-full-time in a simmering pesthole of a corporate-owned restaurant. My wife, on the other hand, often works overtime.

It simply isn't fair for me to expect her to work 10+ hours and then come home and cook too, especially if I only worked 5 hours that day.

Of course, it really sucks that I have to cook for hundreds of other people, and then STILL go home and cook so I can actually get to eat something.

I cook for my woman and i'm as manly as a car made out of bacon that explodes.

Shadowbrand wrote:I cook for my woman and i'm as manly as a car made out of bacon that explodes.

And that, my friends, is bloody manly.

Shadowbrand wrote:I cook for my woman and i'm as manly as a car made out of bacon that explodes.

Are you Chuck Norris?

Thing is, when you're a single guy with no responsibilities, you do whatever you want, whenever you feel like it. You can just rock up at a mate's house and watch hours of sport, and not worry about what time you leave. But when you enter into a serious relationship that changes, and your schedule isn't just your own any more, it's yours and your SO's.

To someone who hasn't experienced that yet, having to leave your mates to do anything with or for your girlfriend can look whipped. What your mates likely don't get is that you're leaving not just out of obligation to your girl, but because you want to spend time with her, want to do things for her.

Three pages and still no satisfaction...

Fine, I'll deal with this myself!

No its not being "whipped"

If you don't cook yourself you'll never eat a decent roast beef with yorkshire pudding

Piston Honda wrote:So I was out late this afternoon with "the guys" watching some college football and drinking beer and rum.

I was the first one to leave, I left a bit early, the college games were not exciting and wanted to get home to cook dinner for my girl friend who I promised to make her favorite dish. Spaghetti with eggplant parmigiana and garlic bread, and picked up a bottle of her favorite red wine (Casella Wines' Yellow Tail Merlot, luckily it is cheap as hell).

I never thought about it as being whipped as I enjoy doing it and she loves my cooking so makes me happy. My friends see it as being whipped and another result of the new age "equal partnership".


I do see going to art shows and plays as being whipped though. Hate them, but she loves them and I love seeing her smile.

Your friends don't have dates. Laugh at them, laugh the laugh of manly man with a happy wife / gf. Ask them when was the last time they got some, and laugh some more.

I think this is appropriate.

LoneLictor wrote:

Shadowbrand wrote:I cook for my woman and i'm as manly as a car made out of bacon that explodes.

Are you Chuck Norris?

It doesn't punch people while blasting out metal, having supermodels hanging off of it and bears chained to the back with a shark, so no.

Shadowbrand wrote:I cook for my woman and i'm as manly as a car made out of bacon that explodes.

I must say thats pretty manly.

That depends, is it regular bacon or canadian bacon?

Melissia wrote:That depends, is it regular bacon or canadian bacon?

It could be that expensive Eye-talian bacon....

Its all bacon, except that stuff crispy crap from Amurika!

I didn't read the OP as I sort of assumed it would be soppy, seems I was right.

I cook for the Mrs, this is because if I dont food gets served that tastes of feet. She won't season anything and things that sweet chilli sauce is the answer for anything, when the actual answer is 42 or bacon or somewhere inbetween.

Does the OP also think that taking baths is only for gurls as well?

I too am made of cars that explode on contact with bacon - did I do that right?

Nothing at all wrong with cooking for your gal. I wish mine would eat my cooking, but I like to grill and to her grilled = burnt because her dad didn't know how to do it right. She always wants to go out to eat, and it gets expensive :(

notprop wrote:Its all bacon, except that stuff crispy crap from Amurika!

If you don't like American bacon, you aren't a human being.

True story, I heard it on the internet.










In this thread.














In this post.

filbert wrote:My wife is truly dreadful at cooking. If I didn't cook, we would either starve or subsist entirely on takeaway.

THIS!

On the other hand, she is a fantastic baker!

Necros wrote:Nothing at all wrong with cooking for your gal. I wish mine would eat my cooking, but I like to grill and to her grilled = burnt because her dad didn't know how to do it right. She always wants to go out to eat, and it gets expensive :(

Get some styrofoam folding trays (like some restaurants use), grill while she isnt there, and convince her that its take-out

Nothing wrong with cooking for your wife, girlfriend, or that hot lady next door.

Just don't get them mixed up...

Piston Honda wrote:I never thought about it as being whipped as I enjoy doing it and she loves my cooking so makes me happy. My friends see it as being whipped and another result of the new age "equal partnership".


I do see going to art shows and plays as being whipped though. Hate them, but she loves them and I love seeing her smile.

As a chef who cooks for his lady several times a week, I don't see it as being "whipped" at all.

In fact, anyone who even uses the term "whipped" without irony seems to be an emotionally stunted individual.


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kronk wrote:Nothing wrong with cooking for your wife, girlfriend, or that hot lady next door.

Or all three at once. zing!

CT GAMER wrote:It's why guys watch a boring sport like baseball, waste time watching horrible action/horror/sci-fi movies, and listen to various forms of awful "metal". failure to do so is to be labeled and ridiculed as somehow "not manly".

Jeez, I didn't realize that those were the reasons that I watch horror movies and baseball. What an accurate generalization.

There isn't anything wrong with cooking if you want to. Being a man is about doing what you want to do. You should want to do those things you are obligated to do - no matter how distasteful. That said -

Sean Connery is always right.

Ketara wrote:

DIDM wrote:

mattyrm wrote:

DIDM wrote: A man that can't cook is not a man IMO

I can cook so this is not self interest speaking, but isn't that as stupid as saying that a man who can cook is manly?

What makes you a "man" is purely the concept of an individual. To me it might be something totally different to you, but needless to say, I don't see how if you take someone that has done something astonishingly brave, and then ask him if he can cook, when he replies "No I am an awful cook" how on earth does that make him "less" of a "man"?

I think that statement is as daft as the OP's friends one about being whipped!

a man who can't cook is still a boy

makes perfect sense in my mind.

A man is someone who is prepared to ignore silly opinions and concepts like this, and do what THEY want to do, regardless of societal or peer pressure. Be it cooking, not cooking, wearing kilts, or joining the Royal Marines.

My uncle was RM Commando trained, AND a chef on a minesweeper. So not only could he bake a tier-cake with delicate icing traceries and columns, he could use it to kill a man as well. (Which I hasten to add is not a comment on his cooking skills.) Think "Under Siege" but with a larger helping of stiff upper lip, sensible British reserve, and no Erika Eleniak.

Having said that, I also know squaddies who think that "Roast Sparrow in Chilli Powder" is an amazing meal for one. I have no idea where mattyrm falls between those two positions.

At the OP: A woman who is cooked for is generally grateful and happy and content. Women who are all of those things are usually much more amenable than hungry angry ones. Getting beaten by a hungry, angry woman is much less manly than cooking.

I never thought about it as being whipped as I enjoy doing it and she loves my cooking so makes me happy. My friends see it as being whipped and another result of the new age "equal partnership".

To the first half, it's not being whipped it's doing something you like that happens to provide a useful side benefit, sex.
To the second half. Completely ignoring the long history of cooking as a masculine occupation. The "new equal partnership" line of argument is from left field. I'm seem to remember that both my paternal and maternal grandfathers did most of the cooking in thier homes. And on meeting my wife's maternal Grandfather, he's 85 and when he cooks three generations of women know the aren't allowed in the kitchen and to go watch telemundo. So men cooking certainly isn't "new age"
For me personally it's a matter of survival. I eat a lot of beef, my wife can't cook beef. So I cook. My friends don't call it being whipped because every Saturday I send out a mass picture mail of our dinner, highlights like pepper braised beef shanks, pork filet mignon in bacon, wings ala hooters, smoked turkey legs,beef short ribs texas smoked, prime rib, and molasses/bourbon chuck eyes.

KingCracker wrote:Id say whipped, would of been you watching the game with the guys, enjoying yourself, she phones in a little "Im lonely" and you just take off.

Well, that kind of depends on the exact context of the 'I'm lonely'. A simple 'I'm lonely' would be whipped, but an 'I'm lonely and covered in [insert ice-cream topping of choice]', well that's just common sense really

Nah, nothing 'under the thumb' (as the term is normally known as over this side of the Atlantic) about cooking for the significant other. Personally we've got a system going, I work mon-fri so she cooks most weekdays (unless she's ill or something), she works weekends so I cook weekends.

Usually I find people who cry 'under the thumb' tend to have trouble with relationships in general...

As much as I love women, I refuse to date because of this reason. I like cooking but I'm the guy who would only cook for himself. I am self-sufficent. I cook, I clean, I work, I go to School, I fill out my taxes.

I consider cooking for my woman an investment in my future happiness.

As much as I love women, I refuse to date because of this reason. I like cooking but I'm the guy who would only cook for himself. I am self-sufficent. I cook, I clean, I work, I go to School, I fill out my taxes.

Uhh, I'm having a hell of a time extracting a point from this. You refuse to date because you refuse to cook for any other human? You refuse to date because you don't need someone to do your laundry, cook, and clean? You refuse to date because your buddy's might call you whipped?

Tyyr wrote:I consider cooking for my woman an investment in my future happiness.

As much as I love women, I refuse to date because of this reason. I like cooking but I'm the guy who would only cook for himself. I am self-sufficent. I cook, I clean, I work, I go to School, I fill out my taxes.

Uhh, I'm having a hell of a time extracting a point from this. You refuse to date because you refuse to cook for any other human? You refuse to date because you don't need someone to do your laundry, cook, and clean? You refuse to date because your buddy's might call you whipped?

I don't need anyone else for laundry etc. Love is superficial in my opinion.

Leigen_Zero wrote:

KingCracker wrote:Id say whipped, would of been you watching the game with the guys, enjoying yourself, she phones in a little "Im lonely" and you just take off.

Well, that kind of depends on the exact context of the 'I'm lonely'. A simple 'I'm lonely' would be whipped, but an 'I'm lonely and covered in [insert ice-cream topping of choice]', well that's just common sense really

Nah, nothing 'under the thumb' (as the term is normally known as over this side of the Atlantic) about cooking for the significant other. Personally we've got a system going, I work mon-fri so she cooks most weekdays (unless she's ill or something), she works weekends so I cook weekends.

Usually I find people who cry 'under the thumb' tend to have trouble with relationships in general...

This is essentially what my point was earlier.. You planned to cook, and at the appointed time, left watching the game. Where *I THINK* the "whipped" term can even be considered is if there were no plans, and she calls claiming to be hungry but for whatever reason cant/wont cook, and you leave, this is especially true if she threatens (or gives an ultimatum if you dont) you with anything if you dont go cook for her.

Basically, it boils down to, did you/do you do an activity because you: plan, like, or want to do something; OR are you: begged, threatened, guilted or otherwise negatively influenced to do something (especially if you are doing something that falls under the first category that is more for you than her, vice versa for women who are dating/married to men)

Ensis Ferrae wrote:
Basically, it boils down to, did you/do you do an activity because you: plan, like, or want to do something; OR are you: begged, threatened, guilted or otherwise negatively influenced to do something (especially if you are doing something that falls under the first category that is more for you than her, vice versa for women who are dating/married to men)

Excellent point, EF. Right on the money.

Kilkrazy wrote:No.

It's a bit weird to think of showing care and affection for a loved one as being "whipped".

It seems such a "hyper-masculine" concept. Maybe there's some homosexual bonding sub-text going on.

News at 11: If you watch a football game with other men, you're a repressed homo

What if you're watching the game naked?

Monster Rain wrote:What if you're watching the game naked?

if you are alone, OR it is "homo-erotic chicken" then it's fine

I always cook for the missus... It's mostly because I enjoy it, but partly because she can't really boil an egg....

And food equates closely with love/sex, soooooo.....

Monster Rain wrote:
In fact, anyone who even uses the term "whipped" without irony seems to be an emotionally stunted individual.

Even if it's an honest criticism of someone constantly being forced into things they don't want to do, but do it because there soul mate says so and they rarely get anything in return?

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:
In fact, anyone who even uses the term "whipped" without irony seems to be an emotionally stunted individual.

Even if it's an honest criticism of someone constantly being forced into things they don't want to do, but do it because there soul mate says so and they rarely get anything in return?

I feel like there WAS a time when it was true, but the word has so much baggage it would be clearer to say "in an unhealthy relationship"

Like, yes, you should be able to criticize a one-sided relationship, but "whipped" means too many things now.

I always cooked for my ex, mainly because she was a rubbish cook.

Rented Tritium wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:
In fact, anyone who even uses the term "whipped" without irony seems to be an emotionally stunted individual.

Even if it's an honest criticism of someone constantly being forced into things they don't want to do, but do it because there soul mate says so and they rarely get anything in return?

I feel like there WAS a time when it was true, but the word has so much baggage it would be clearer to say "in an unhealthy relationship"

Like, yes, you should be able to criticize a one-sided relationship, but "whipped" means too many things now.

Also I don't think soul mate was the right term in my description more just living with someone your barely enjoy being around because you're afraid of being single/alone that to me is "whipped".

Monster Rain wrote:In fact, anyone who even uses the term "whipped" without irony seems to be an emotionally stunted individual.

I think there is definitely such a thing as being whipped. I've had a guy to call up the morning of a cricket match to explain they have to bail this week because their partner declared they're doing something else with their time. Didn't matter that it was a pretty serious comp, and they were about to throw three or four sides into unrest as players got pulled up the grades to cover this guy. I've known blokes who just disappear from social circles because their partners don't let them out, or because they disapprove of a certain group of friends.

There's plenty of blokes who just go along with whatever their partner's decree, and I think it's fair to call them whipped. That certainly doesn't apply to cooking for your partner, but it does exist.


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rockerbikie wrote:I don't need anyone else for laundry etc. Love is superficial in my opinion.

You're a strange cat, rockerbikie.

Piston Honda wrote:So I was out late this afternoon with "the guys" watching some college football and drinking beer and rum.

I was the first one to leave, I left a bit early, the college games were not exciting and wanted to get home to cook dinner for my girl friend who I promised to make her favorite dish. Spaghetti with eggplant parmigiana and garlic bread, and picked up a bottle of her favorite red wine (Casella Wines' Yellow Tail Merlot, luckily it is cheap as hell).

I never thought about it as being whipped as I enjoy doing it and she loves my cooking so makes me happy. My friends see it as being whipped and another result of the new age "equal partnership".


I do see going to art shows and plays as being whipped though. Hate them, but she loves them and I love seeing her smile.

Are you whipped? Certainly not, especially if you enjoy cooking. I do have to question your girlfriend's taste in wine though. I've always thought merlot of any variety tastes a bit like salt.

I wish I had somebody to cook for... *sigh*

Oh wait! I do!



Wait, you don't watch sports with other men while naked?

All this time...

Ask your buddys if they have ever had oral delight while playing KOTOR. Ya my dinner was that damn good.

Monster Rain wrote:What if you're watching the game naked?

Is football gay?

Lets look at the evidence:

1. Pretty colors
2. Spandex
3. lots of guy on guy ass slapping
4. The whole front line bends over to start the play
5. what exactly is the Qb feeling under the center?

Sweety loves my cooking. It opens all avenues in personal negotiations, such as she washes dishes and I cook dinner.

My close friends who are in this hobby are pretty jealous of being to take her out to a game store and play a game while she paints. Then we go home and make our meals.

If that means I'm whipped, then let me lick the cream clean off from spoon of life!

I cook for the mrs all the time.
I'm the cook in the house. She likes to do it, but until we can get the kitchen tidied up (brother-in-law has to shift his arse and take our old dining table away so that I can do this.) she's not allowed into the kitchen.

Besides, cooking for her has its advantages - all of which have been enumerated in previous posts.

Besides, as a married man, I live by the old adage.

Happy wife, happy life.

sebster wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:In fact, anyone who even uses the term "whipped" without irony seems to be an emotionally stunted individual.

I think there is definitely such a thing as being whipped. I've had a guy to call up the morning of a cricket match to explain they have to bail this week because their partner declared they're doing something else with their time. Didn't matter that it was a pretty serious comp, and they were about to throw three or four sides into unrest as players got pulled up the grades to cover this guy. I've known blokes who just disappear from social circles because their partners don't let them out, or because they disapprove of a certain group of friends.

There's plenty of blokes who just go along with whatever their partner's decree, and I think it's fair to call them whipped. That certainly doesn't apply to cooking for your partner, but it does exist.


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rockerbikie wrote:I don't need anyone else for laundry etc. Love is superficial in my opinion.

You're a strange cat, rockerbikie.

Yes. Indeed I am.

I cook.

On Saturday I am making pie.

Not sissy fruit-pies, but manly meat pies. Vegetables don't feel pain. They don't know they've been bested.

Pork, & beef, onions, potatoes, garlic, cinnamon, & nutmeg.

I am making many pies. Frendsmas is Saturday, Christmas is coming, there must be pie for all.

Tourtière for the Pie God!

I have only cooked once for her cos I can't cook ( I want to though!!) And it made her really happy

I'd do anything to make her smile, if anything I'm whipped by my own rampant love for my lady lol

If you are a hyper-masculine man, close to a chauvinist, then maybe. But if you are a normal guy like most of us here then hell no. You are showing how much you like her by cooking to her. Besides it is fun. In many countries, it is considered a very manly profession.
Only the "get back in the kitchen" type persons will tell you it is a feminine activity. I for one love cooking with my girlfriend.

Gaaargh wrote:I cook.

On Saturday I am making pie.

Not sissy fruit-pies, but manly meat pies. Vegetables don't feel pain. They don't know they've been bested.

Pork, & beef, onions, potatoes, garlic, cinnamon, & nutmeg.

I am making many pies. Frendsmas is Saturday, Christmas is coming, there must be pie for all.

Tourtière for the Pie God!

See, that's pie right there! In England we dont even entertain other pie. Sure you occasionally see a dick head eat an Apple Pie, but its never caught on. Who the hell wants to eat a pie with cherry or.. well.. whatever else it is you lot put in a pie.

A pie should be pork, or steak, or chicken, or even better game pie! With 3 different meats in it.

My missus loves pie these days, she hasn't touched a fruit pie since she moved here, but she regularly knacks the pork ones, I think she eats about three a week. And her arse is smaller than mine, which seems terribly unfair.

And her arse is smaller than mine, which seems terribly unfair.

So long as she still allows you near it I'm not seeing the problem.