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EDIT... To any new readers, don't be discouraged by my terrible models at the start, I have got so much better.... Skip to page 5 for my current stuff
Back to the regular sceduled programming.
Hi dakka,
Ive been avidly following many of the inspiring P&M threads here on dakka, drawing well..... inspiration. I have always enjoyed reading a thread that started with someones purchase of a battleforce, a codex and some green stuff and watching their army grow as well as their abilities. So much so that I have decided to create my own. I have decided to do this for a number of reasons, including getting the feedback, critisism and advice from fellow dakkalites, improving my painting skills, and simply the motivation. I was given for cristmas (by my grandma) the death company kit. I then procceded to purchase the codex and battle force from amazon. I love the internet  . Anyway upon some research i found this guy www.mousemuffins.com and needed to buy his chequered pauldrons, Turns out i ran out of money, so they will have to wait. Anyway enough rambling. As the title suggests this will be a lamenters army. I just love the whole background of this chapter. Although models will have to wait till they arrive, I do have two things to ask of you, the amazing members of dakka (flattery gets you everywhere  )
Number one: Advice on magnetising jump packs, I have done some research on the internet but most of it was vauge or unhelpfull
Number two: I would like advice on this list, there are only a few things that MUST stay (ie: I already own/payed for them) and they are, the ten death company, the tac squad, and the rhino. I would like a storm raven but its not that much of a big deal if it goes.
HQ: captain 100pts, jump pack 25 pts. total: 125pts
HQ: Reclusiarch 130pts, power fist 15pts, jump pack 25pts total: 170pts
E:Furiso dread 125pts, extra armour 15pts, 140 pts
T: Tactial squad, 10 man 170 pts, melta 5 pts, heavy bolter: free infernus pistol total: 190 pts Also with rhino 50 pts storm bolter 10 pts hunter killer 10 pts total 70pts together: 245pts
T: Assault squad 10 man, 190 pts, power weapon 15pts, melta bombs 5pts, infernus pistol 15pts total 225 pts
T: Assault squad 10 man, 190 pts, power weapon 15pts, melta bombs 5pts, infernus pistol 15pts total 225 pts
T: Death company 10 man with jump packs, 350 pts. thunder hammer 30 pts power fist 25pts hand flamer 10 pts, infernus pistol 15 pts total 430 pts
T: Death company dread 125 pts, magna grapple 15pts total 140 pts
FA: vangaurd veterans with jump packs, 5 man. 165pts, 4 power weapons 60pts glaive encarmine free. melta bombs 5 pts. total 230 pts
FA:two land speeders, 100 pts, one typhoon,40 pts total: 140 pts
FA: Baal preadator, 115pts flamstorm cannons. free, heave flamers 25 pts total: 140 pts
HS: stormraven 200pts, hurricane bolters 30 pts, extra armour 15 pts locator beacon 15 pts total: 260pts
HS: devs: 5 man 90pts. lascannon 25pts multi melta 10pts missile launcher X 2 20pts total145pts with razorback 55, lascannons 35pts extra armour 15pts stormbolter 10 pts dozerblade 5pt total: 120pts
total:2750pts
any advice or whatever, feel free to post it
cheers, Prototype_x
ps, pics soon. thou only of a box of dc. waiting for the rest to arrive...
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Looking forward to those pics dude, can't say much on lists, VERY inexperienced
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Welcome lipsdapips!
Its good to have such an experienced and skilled painter such as yourself on board! And im looking foward to our game!
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Hey proto... I'm in.
Now... entertain me or be a pell.
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Why, hello there!
 its an honour to have you here gits....
I have decided to update this log at least once a day. And so, here is todays:
Its not much, just a captain i cobbled together using some legs, a torso and a jumppack i had laying around, the rest is the dc. Theres no right shoulder pad because im going to order some online, when I have the money.... Anyway he isnt glued yet so C&C would be appreciated. Ecpecialy you LDP as you seem to be the resident expert on captains, after all you only have 10 of them
Tommorow I will try to do the 5 dc marines
EDIT: just noticed the dirty great bit of srue on the handle of his chainsword.... gonna go fix that up right now.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Ok I couldnt resist, started the Death company already
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Ehehehehe I guess I am a bit of an expert
Well with the wargear you chose I think you chose the parts very well. Both the chainsword and the BP look very unique, and the pose is nice and dynamic. I might recommed trying to bulk up his waist perhaps with a few grenades and a gun holster though? Make him look stockier and stand out in a crowd, and when painting, paint a certain peice a different colour, like the chainsword sword bit, instead of black make it red, or vice versa or whatever.
Hope this helps dude!
Looking forward to the game
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
lamenter death company = collest looking unit in the game (well, almost  )
Can't wait to see what (else) you do
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Post by: Gitsplitta
I agree with lips... looking good for all his stated reasons. Little bit of girth and you'll be all set.
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lipsdapips wrote:Well with the wargear you chose I think you chose the parts very well. Both the chainsword and the BP look very unique, and the pose is nice and dynamic.
Why thank you!
I might recommed trying to bulk up his waist perhaps with a few grenades and a gun holster though? Make him look stockier and stand out in a crowd
hmm, didnt think of that, will do that presently
when painting, paint a certain peice a different colour, like the chainsword sword bit, instead of black make it red, or vice versa or whatever.
actually i was going to do that particular peice chequered, thats why i chose a simple one.
@matt, and gits: Thank you, I hope not to dissapoint you
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Post by: Solar_lion
Cool, another Lamenter player. Welcome to the 21st founding chapter of Lamenting
Let me know if I can help in anyway.
As for magnetizing Jump packs and back packs, I did this on my current assault squads. The trick was to get the right sized magnets. I’m thinking 3/32" x 1/16" Disc Magnets is what I used. They are about the right diameter to the back pack hole (however you will need to drill them out a bit to sit flush). They are also strong enough not to be bumped off when moving. Remove the backpack bump and drill out as well.
Make sure you align you magnets the correct way as with all the other troops as well; this allow you to use any of the back packs/ Jump packs on any guys. This keeps it simple so you don’t have to find backs that go with only certain guys.
Feel free to check out my page. thou slow to update. ... http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/394207.page
Advice, comments and critique is always appreciated.
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Post by: Fifty
Sweet, more Lamenter love!
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Post by: prototype_X
Hello everybody,
I was looking at the stuff i needed to buy for this army, not the models but the paints, flock etc and the price was rising rapidly (did i mention that im broke ;(). This coupled with an idea I had a while back of a tactical squad taking cover in a ruin, gave me the idea to do urban basing. I looked online and drew some inspiration and i made my own.
Remember this is my first try at this so please be HARSH! that way I am more likely to improve and make better bases. Im pretty pleased with it however.
Apoligies for bad photo, my camera decided it didnt like my cheap batteries.This is all I got before it died on me
enjoy, Ben
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Post by: spudkins
Mate this is stunning I agree with the abovve. bulkier please lol.
maybe few more purity seals.
magnetising is really easy brother want some hints check my other blog on my friend doing it to his vehicles but on the blog I ve done it for weapons.
peace hope it helped. :p Automatically Appended Next Post: 11th legion link sorry.
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Post by: prototype_X
Thank you for your kind words, its great to have you here
Ah yes i forgot to add the little extras, thats fixed now. No pics as batteries for camera died, maybe some tommorow
did manage to find some more of the base on my pc, when I paint it it will look like a road. so grey, balck and yellow
Cheers, Ben/prototype_X
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
looks nice, just needs sand, and maybe a few (EDIT: SMALL) beams(like on my chaos blog...)
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Post by: prototype_X
Yes i was thinking of doing that, maybe on a different base in the squad, i dont want to crowd up the base too much.
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
mmm.
But cover the road insand and paint it black, drybrush codex then fortress grey, then paint the white.
I will look (and feel) like bitchemen (SPELLING=  )
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hmmm, But I was more thinking along the lines of smooth tarmac, alows for cracks that way.
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Bitvhemen can still crack, just more dramatically!
(ie, blown up  )
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Well, what do we have here? Another Lamenter blog! Don't see too much of these around, do you? I'll be following this one closely...
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Ogryn wrote:Well, what do we have here? Another Lamenter blog! Don't see too much of these around, do you? I'll be following this one closely... Welcome, although at the moment it could be any BA related chapter with the amout of paint. But im working on that Matt.Kingsley wrote:Bitvhemen can still crack, just more dramatically! (ie, blown up ) a good point. I will do a test peice for both of them
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Post by: fatty
i made my urban basing as follows (this is best for vehicles, heavy weapon teams, flyers or dreadnoughts):
i bought red termite sand (your local pet shop that sells lizards)
dilluted some chaos black with water and added that to the
sand (not all the sand) making it black (and your hands get dirty)
i cut of small strips of sprue for a side walk. glue that to half the base in a irregular pettern.
now i painted the sprue brown. i made some of the red sand wet and stuffed that in the holes between the sprue.
the black sand i added in a very thin layer on the rest of the base.
now you have a side walk with partial road
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Post by: Solar_lion
You can make bases and terrain from a lot of common items. Thin card stock such as mini boxes or cereal boxes are just an example, Styrofoam from packaging or cork from wine bottles or cork panels can be useful. Metal and plastic bottles have intresting curves and shapes. When cut into small peices can be used to look like twisted metal scraps on the ground. Small piece of road gravel can be used ect. Your only bound by your imagination .
As always use caution when cutting, sawing and generally tearing apart stuff like plastic and metal scraps. Sharp edges abound.
and .. be sure to coat foam related items if your spray painting out of a can as opposed to an Air bush. The propellant will dissolve your foam right in front of your eyes. Also avoid heating Styrofoam and some types of plastics as it will melt, releasing a toxic gas. Important safety tips ... thanks Egon!!
SL
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Post by: spudkins
easy man.
Basing is quite easy cork matting and sand really.
A little plastic tuning to straws.
cat litter.
the actually sprue can be made into metal struts
If you can get to a plumbing place that sells pipe and stuff its a massive geek fest.
if your from uk theres the pound shop where you can buy cheap chains to wrap stuff in.
last but not least.
Slate
Bark
stones
pebbles
all free from mother nature only just remember to dry the bark out before use.
peace hope I helped a little and keep up the good work.
spudkins
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Like where you're going with the bases. If you have acces to them filters from water taps make nice grating and are pretty cheap.
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Post by: prototype_X
Hello, everybody
Thanks for your help guys, i will most certainally take all you have said into consideration.
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No updates today. But i have got a new bitzbox and a desk to paint/model on.
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Post by: prototype_X
prototype_X wrote: HQ: captain 100pts, jump pack 25 pts. total: 125pts HQ: Reclusiarch 130pts, power fist 15pts, jump pack 25pts total: 170pts E:Furiso dread 125pts, E:Furiso dread 125pts, librarian, 175 pts T: Tactial squad, 10 man 170 pts, melta 5 pts, heavy bolter: free total: 175 pts Also with rhino 50 pts storm bolter 10 pts hunter killer 10 pts total 70pts together: 230pts T: Assault squad 10 man, 190 pts, power weapon 15pts, melta bombs 5pts, infernus pistol 15pts total 225 pts T: Assault squad 10 man, 190 pts, power weapon 15pts, melta bombs 5pts, infernus pistol 15pts total 225 pts T: Death company 10 man with jump packs, 350 pts. thunder hammer 30 pts power fist 25pts hand flamer 10 pts, infernus pistol 15 pts power sword 15pts total 445 pts T: Death company dread 125 pts, magna grapple 15pts total 140 pts FA: vangaurd veterans with jump packs, 5 man. 165pts, 4 power weapons 60pts glaive encarmine free. melta bombs 5 pts. total 230 pts FA:two land speeders, 100 pts, one typhoon,40 pts total: 140 pts HS: stormraven 200pts, hurricane bolters 30 pts, extra armour 15 pts locator beacon 15 pts total: 260pts HS: devs: 5 man 90pts. lascannon 25pts multi melta 10pts missile launcher X 2 20pts total145pts with razorback 55, lascannons 35pts stormbolter 10 pts total: 115pts total:2750pts .. Re-wrote the list. removed the pread, and the extra armour on the furiso and replaced them with a furiso librarian. The reasoning behind this is if I can pick up another aobr dread then I can make three dreads out of the one kit, all i would need then would be theese.. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/MK-IV-DREADNOUGHT-CLOSE-COMBAT-ARM-LEFT-ARM.html. So if anyone has a spare aobr dread kicking around. I would gladly purchase it off you. more updates on the dc, later today/ tommorow
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Post by: lipsdapips
Welcome one, welcome all! To Prototypes terrain discussion forum!
 Heheheh, would you consider buying an ironclad dread instead? (for a smidge more, of course (; painted blue, very thin)
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hmmm, how much?
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@lipsdapips Terrian for life
@prototype_X 589 kibillon dollars :O
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Idk, how much are you willing to pay for AOBR dreads, ill work from there
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Post by: prototype_X
Firstly, yay 2 pages! Thanks for all your support everyone! (only 243 till i catch up to Gits  )
Secondly. i got my new modeling table and bits box set up today. But my battery recharger for my camera was off all night. pics will be coming as soon as I can take them.
@ldp $25 maybe. probably more.. Can I chuck in those scouts I mentioned earlier, and get it cheaper?
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Post by: lipsdapips
NO SCOUTS D:<
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
lol, proto
still trying to get rid of those scouts
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Post by: prototype_X
Hi all, lots of pictures for you today. The new painting and modeling table, the captain with some more purity seals and more bulk, the nice new powerfist weilding death company marine, and as I thought I had better include something thats not grey plastic, a model plane that got me first place in a competition a while back. It was the only time I have ever used an airbrush.
C&C appreciated
cheers, Ben
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
Jeez Ben you took your time
Lookin' great, keep on modeling.
Nice desk, too!
Matt
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Post by: spudkins
wow great work.
Your desk is sooooo tidy and clean. I use my sofa arm for my modelling and painting.
How many marines are in your first squad?
you seen my finihsed contemtor yet? ( well put to together ;p)
peace
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Post by: lipsdapips
Great stuff matey! That death company guy looks badass  and to see the additional bulk on the captain, looks alot better and in scale! Didn't know you had an airbrush either
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Post by: prototype_X
spudkins wrote:wow great work. Your desk is sooooo tidy and clean. I use my sofa arm for my modelling and painting. How many marines are in your first squad? you seen my finihsed contemtor yet? ( well put to together ;p) peace hahaha, its only clean because I had only just set it up you should see it now When finished the DC will be a ten man squad but at the moment i have only got 5. Battleforce is on its way over, it should be arriving on the 9th Happy new year (unless your chinese) Ben ps-sorry about the photos, not sure what happend EDIT: fixed LDP- I dont, I used the stores one
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prototype_X wrote:spudkins wrote:wow great work.
Your desk is sooooo tidy and clean. I use my sofa arm for my modelling and painting.
How many marines are in your first squad?
you seen my finihsed contemtor yet? ( well put to together ;p)
peace
hahaha, its only clean because I had only just set it up you should see it now
QFT
Mine's the same
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Post by: lipsdapips
I'm liking them, want to see your paintjobs for the first time ever (:<
Are you building your guys based on the army list?
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Post by: prototype_X
Kind of, or maybe Im building the list around the guys... not sure
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
lol
EDIT: why is a base in the 'other' area of your bitz box?
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Very nice work on those proto... you're right, the thunder hammer guy is pretty darn cool.
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Post by: prototype_X
Thanks gits
@matt, that is atached to the legs of an aobr ork
Sadly, I am going away so no updates until the 9th
\Ben/
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
ahh
Sad, no updates
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Hammer guy is looking great!
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Post by: Texanity
where did you get the thunder hammer and the arms? termy box?
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Post by: Rabtorian
Looking good. Death company mightn't work so well for the Lamnter's fluff as they suffer neither from the black rage nor the red thirst. Also, wouldn't desert bases have been cheapest?
1.Walk to beach with spade and bucket
2.Collect sand
3.Walk home
4.Glue sand to base, paint.
Only the glue and paint cost money, see?
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Post by: spudkins
Loving the the dc sarge. brother.
I want to see some paint on at least one
Ive finished my contemtor lol. Working on some more terrian.
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Post by: prototype_X
IM BACK!!!! big update coming soon
Texanity wrote:where did you get the thunder hammer and the arms? termy box?
I got the thunder hammer and arms from the death company kit, its jam-packed with lots of nifty little things like that
Rabtorian wrote:Looking good. Death company mightn't work so well for the Lamnter's fluff as they suffer neither from the black rage nor the red thirst. Also, wouldn't desert bases have been cheapest?
1.Walk to beach with spade and bucket
2.Collect sand
3.Walk home
4.Glue sand to base, paint.
Only the glue and paint cost money, see?
Actually, lamenters have had a reduced number, but they still suffer from the black rage and red thirst (I Think) Also sand bases..... meh. way too cliche
spudkins wrote:Loving the the dc sarge. brother.
I want to see some paint on at least one
Ive finished my contemtor lol. Working on some more terrian.
Thanks spudkins, Paint is coming when i have cash  or when i go to gw with LDP.
Nice I will check your blog soon.
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Post by: Rabtorian
. The Lamenters are a Successor Chapter of the Blood Angels created during the Cursed 21st Founding, and seem to have eliminated the gene-seed Flaws known as the Black Rage and the Red Thirst through unknown means, but this secret cure may have been lost along with the Chapter.
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Lamenters
Guess you could find an excuse. Sand bases may be cliche, but sand can also be used to make snow, tundra, wastelwnd and ash-plains bases. All the same, it looks very good, and I wasn't critisising your basing choice, merely pointing out that sand would be cheaper.
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Post by: prototype_X
Oh, well they have been out of contact for ages anyway so its not been a permenant solution  (or I already have 10 and I am not willing to give up 430pts)
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
Blood Angels Codex, Page 54, Lamenters wrote: "...the Lamenters have reportedly claimed the ability to cure their flawed gene-seed, though if anything the Chapter has undergone marked degeneration since the discovery, raising severe doubts as to the efectiveness of the 'cure'."
They can have Death Company!
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Post by: Fifty
Also, at the time of the Badab War, the Lamenters most certainly suffered from both curses. Even if someone wants to claim they are fully cured now, just play a historical army. Hah. Also, it is rumoured that Chapter Master Malakim Phoros, who was pretty close to succumbing at the time of the Badab War, was not actually dead, but instead survived and now leads a small force of Lamenters who escaped. Most probably closely allied or absorbed by the Red Corsairs, but still some fun to be had with that idea.
Further, an option I have long considered, even since before the Badab books, is to have the chapter slightly splintered. Have a codex faction who have used the cure and a BA faction who cling to the old ways, and play both armies, but with different codex books.
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Noice fluff debates guys! Looking forward to the update
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Make with the update already >;o
we want pics!
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lipsdapips wrote:Make with the update already >;o
we want pics!
QFT
Proto. my good friend, I delivered. so it's now your turn
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Post by: Solar_lion
Fluff all aside , the DC is a good option to consider when playing with a BA codex. You could use any chapter codex. I've seen SM armies proxiy alot. At tourneys you see alot of proxy SW armies.
As long as your opponent knows what your using and your models can be identified as such. it's all good.
The several Lamenter players I know have all gone with their own version of theme ( both in painting and lists) Have fun - do your own thing.
SL - Fellow Lamenter player
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Post by: Reaper Man 2020
Dropped in to have a look at your project, some nice converting there looking forward to some paint appearing on them. (I think the nose leg on your jet is a bit wonky).
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Post by: spudkins
easy brother any new updates?
peace
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Post by: prototype_X
Hey, everyone.
Sorry for not updating this for a long time, I have had nothing to upload, sorta on holiday at the moment.
On a brighter note, I got my battleforce! so when I get some time, the updates will be coming, and quickly
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
yay!
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Post by: prototype_X
Good morning dakka!
As i mentioned before my Battleforce arrived, And I have made a single tactical marine. Wow, loads of progress I know! There is a reason however, I am going away tommorow for a week, with no internet! at all! So to keep myself sane I will be taking my battleforce, etc with me
Last night however, I was inspired. So i set to work, and using parts, some I wasn't even aware I had, I built 90% of Malakim Phoros the master of the lamenters! (Only 90% as i need a right arm.... I need a halberd from the gk kit. So im hoping that i can get one soonish.) This morning, I realised I couldnt stop there, so I cobbled together a counts as corbulo working on a Blood chalice now. Chapter master and sanguinary high preist- done-ish to go, head librarian and chaplain + motf
see you all in a week
Ben
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Hey Proto,
If your after a GK halberd I'd be more than happy to give you one of my spares.
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
too bad there aren't any MotF rules in C:BA
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Post by: spudkins
Yaaaaay Updates. I actually cant for paint.
Peace
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Post by: Solar_lion
Nice use of different elements. The are starting to look original.
Remember to clean up your mold lines and flash. they can bring down the quality of even a good paint job. It''ll be the first comment most will critque. also drilling out the gun barrels are simple ways to make improvements in basic models.
Keep going...
SL - Brother Lamenter -
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Post by: spudkins
you using cork or slate or sand for basing or even resin bases?
peace
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Post by: Tadhghouze
These look great  (subscribed)
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Post by: prototype_X
Ok, minor update, as the Ba codex says nothing about chapter masters (excluding dante and seth) so i modded dantes rules
c&c please
points. 175
wargear, infernus pistol. glaive encarmine (master crafted power weapon) articicer armour frag and krak grenades
stats-WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv
6 5 4 4 4 6 4 10 2+
Thanks, ben
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What's the difference? (besides no special rules... wait, no ATSKNF?! Wah?)
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Post by: prototype_X
Hey everyone, Big update!! Lipsdapips and I went to GW yesterday and I picked up some paints. And so without futher ado Brother (I dont have a name for him.... Thats your job  .) Lots of C&C please!
Also I have decided to join the GMS If you wanna swap, Hit me up with a PM
(edit: fixed the crappy photos)
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Post by: archonalrox
dibs on first game lol
Good job on this cant wait till its done
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Post by: lipsdapips
ooh theose checks are spot on man! Great work!
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Post by: Baldsmug
Looking good, I like the subdued yellow.
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
nice, though moldlines! (legs!)
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Post by: fatty
brother Valentine.....
nice yellow its not to bright or to dark. good job
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Post by: Nrljm
Good job on your first marine done, just get your file
Out and get rid of those ugly mold lines!!
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Oh... I like Brother Valentine... works on a number of levels. Good one fatty!
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mirrored the above comments
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Post by: evildrcheese
Looking cool so far, can't wait to see more painted models.
Subscribed.
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Post by: prototype_X
archonalrox wrote:dibs on first game lol
Good job on this cant wait till its done
Alright then, 1000pts?
lipsdapips wrote:ooh theose checks are spot on man! Great work!
Thanks I had a good teacher
Baldsmug wrote:Looking good, I like the subdued yellow.
Thanks, I dont belive I have seen you here before.... Welcome aboard!
Matt.Kingsley wrote:nice, though moldlines! (legs!)
Already gone
fatty wrote:brother Valentine.....
nice yellow its not to bright or to dark. good job
Brother valentine.... I like it, Thanks fatty
Nrljm wrote:Good job on your first marine done, just get your file
Out and get rid of those ugly mold lines!!
Thanks, the lines are already gone
spudkins wrote:mirrored the above comments 
Thanks?
evildrcheese wrote:Looking cool so far, can't wait to see more painted models.
Subscribed.
Neither can I. Good to have you here.
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Post by: Solar_lion
Keep up the good work.
Sl
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Post by: fleet of claw
Waiting for a whole squad of these guys,
keep up the good work!
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Post by: prototype_X
Thanks fleet, Cant wait to battle your tau with them.
Is your avatar your battlesuit?
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Post by: fleet of claw
this is the model of mine but i my camera doesnt have working batteries and is currently broken due to gravity :(
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Post by: prototype_X
Nice, I cant wait to see it painted up (then kill it!)
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Post by: fatty
ah gravety it's a love hate kind of thing
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Post by: Solar_lion
" Garvity is a harsh mistress" The tick!
Also . Git has a great tutorial on basing. You don't have to use the same scheme as him but the techniques should be transferable to what ever you want to do. The Base can enhance a model greatly. It provides an overall effect that completes the look.
Check it out.
SL
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Thanks S_L Youve been a great help and Inspiration for me all the way through this project. So thank you very much indeed.
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Got lots of paint on the Dreadknight ;P Ill try update tomorrow
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Post by: Solar_lion
updates?
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Still waiting for updates..
inquiring Lamenters want to know!
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Post by: prototype_X
Many apoligies everybody.
But..... I have much to update and a game or 2 tommorow so. Brace yourselves, updates are coming
The updates include, a rhino, tac squad, cryptek and knightly's GMS marine. Plus so much more Thanks SL.
Ben
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Ben, do you have any progress?
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Alright everone. I feel like an absolute dick having not posted any updates on her, even after prromising. But some pretty intense stuff came up in my life. Ive got that sorted now, but Im having a little motivation problem. So my freinds, I turn to you to help me out. What should I do first? Finish painting the tactical squad, finish the rhino, make the next 5 death company, make the 5 assault marines, buy devestators or finish Knightleys gms? So dakka! Its up to you to decide.
Thanks in advance. Ben
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Knightlys GMS, to convince me (if I need any more convincing) to finish his
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Finish the TAC squad!
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Updaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate
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Alright guys! As promised updates!
First up, I'm sorry for not updating in aaagggeeess! But I'm back now! I was going to update last week but a chaos daemon prince named Appendicitus abducted me and took me to the planet of Hospital IV. Luckily I managed to fight him off and the only damage I sustained was a small scar on my abdomen.
Second, I would like to thank Solar_Lion once more for his care package of parts and models that he sent over. They will be used often and you will see them very soon in a couple of updates time.
Third, I would like to thank Knightley, both for his GMS marine and for the advice that he gave me. But we will get onto that later.
Fourth (and finally) I am going to promise that will update regularly. I promise that there will be a picture update at least once a week. (goodbye social life  )
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Now that thats over!
I had a spare lascannon lying around and I thought that I might practise a few of the techniques that I learnt from Knightley (note the squiggles). This was my first attempt at edge highlighting. Here is the result; Im especially pleased with the metal parts. Infact so pleased I might paint up the other side, add some bits and turn it into a turret/objective
C&C please
Cheers Proto
Ps) sorry about the poor quality photos, they were taken under bad lighting with my phone... Better pics tommorow!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Wow those pics are shocking!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Wow those pics are shocking!
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Yeahayhay! Good to see you back mate! Shame about the operation D: but now you can get back into it. Liking the squiggles from what I can see, looking forward to more!
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So, let me guess, the Dr Phil of Squiggles (Knightley, for those of you who don't know) taught you how to paint small squiggles?
Bah, appendices, who needs 'em anyways
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Post by: Solar_lion
Welcome back . Glad your on the mend!
SL
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Thanks solar and ldp!
MK: Yes, twas papa squiggle himself who taught me.
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I'm disappointed with the pictures however as you cant see the highligts. I will make an effort to get some pictures taken on an actual camera up tonight
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You told me you'd update once I updated mine, where is this 'update'
don't worry everyone, Proto has done stuff, he's just not showing it to us coz' he's forgetful
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Post by: Solar_lion
Time to wake that boy up Matt!
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swear that that's impossible
especially since he PM'd me almost a week ago saying he'd update
come on, proto, I may be forced to thread-jack to keep the crowd happy
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Ok. I did a whole load of painting... got my camera to take a photo, AND ITS BROKEN!! I dont know what to do :( I was rather excited to show you guys
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Use your phone
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Post by: prototype_X
Todays efforts... I am very very proud.
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Nice work proto... like the extra work on the sword!
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.Thanks Gits! I was really pleased with the power sword.
Can anyone help me?I want to make that my avatar, but my phone is unable to crop etc. So if someone could do that, it would be great.
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Hi Proto, just found your blog and only had time to read the first page before work, wasn't sure if you had found magnets yet but I find these guys to be great.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/50-Neo-Neodymium-Disc-Mini-3-X-1-5-mm-Rare-Earth-N35-Magnets-Warhammer-Craft-/280908108049?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item41676d9111
Cheap and pretty fast delivery to us down here at the end of the world.
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Post by: evildrcheese
Nice work on the white armour, and the power sword is looking good too.
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
Yay! Updates!
The marine looks great, especially the sword!
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Post by: Reaper Man 2020
Another vote for the cool sword!
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Post by: prototype_X
Thanks guys! Means alot, It really does.
BLACKHAND, It's an honour to have you here! And thanks for the link, I will check it out.
evildrcheese, Thanks!
MK, Cheers mate.
Reaper. Hahah glad you all like it!
The power sword was done using LDP's technique, and if you havent already, you should check out his blog. (LDP, if you would post a link please  )
Todays update shall consist of the finished marine with jump pack and shoulderpads and basecoats on another member of the squad, Stay tuned!
Proto
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Ahey! Glad to be of service, if you guys wanna check the blog out feel free to click the link in my sig below.
Looking forward to him fully complete Proto, and still loving the faded white power armour look, gunna look sweet where theres a whole bunch of em!
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Post by: archonalrox
That is a good job proto
loving the army so far
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Thanks alrox.
Ldp. I can't wait either!
Finished model. No jump pack. Enjoy
c&c wanted as always.
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Thanks alrox.
Ldp. I can't wait either!
Finished model. No jump pack. Enjoy
c&c wanted as always.
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
Nice! guessing you aren't using your phone as the picks are clearer?
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The blood drop on the shoulder pad is neat! Ill have to give you another whirl with that glaze to make it all shiny.  the white DC really works well IMHO, fantastic so far, cant wait for more
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Post by: Solar_lion
Bud. Your picture orientation is throwing me off!
Other wise i like. I'd go back in and do a bit more highlighting on the red to make it pop. Other wise your washes look good!
SL
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Matt.Kingsley wrote:Nice! guessing you aren't using your phone as the picks are clearer?
Actually, I am, I just fixed the Macro.... Got a new phone so any pics from now on should be much nicer,
lipsdapips wrote:The blood drop on the shoulder pad is neat! Ill have to give you another whirl with that glaze to make it all shiny.  the white DC really works well IMHO, fantastic so far, cant wait for more
Thanks LDP! From you that means alot! Yea, not having a blue wash means the drop just looks incomplete..... It's on the list though
Solar_lion wrote:Bud. Your picture orientation is throwing me off!
Other wise i like. I'd go back in and do a bit more highlighting on the red to make it pop. Other wise your washes look good!
SL
Sorry! Experimenting with the new phone......
I just higlighted the red and it already looks tonnes better!
Thanks guys!
Proto
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Heh, so that's why the pics aren't orientated the right way
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Hey guys. Two days of work on the chaplain. I'm pleased
c and c please!
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I first looked at the chaplain and thought 'hmm, he's maybe leaning a little too much backwards' then I figured he actually looks kickass! That's a solid landing pose and with the jump pack I think this guys gunna look fantastic! Posing is a really important aspect of having a neat army, and you've done a good job here. Well done.
Great work on the bases too! & the shoulder pad yellows are pretty dang solid!
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Thanks LDP! I changed my recipie for yellow and I am really pleased. The pose wont make much sense until I add the jump pack
Thanks for all your help mate! I could not have done any of this without you.
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great work proto
that head looks familiar to me
I love the bases and the poses look amazing
arcal
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Hahah You should recognise it! You gave it to me
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Here's the 'super-secret-under-lock' update that you gave me a sneak peak of...
Nice!
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Post by: evildrcheese
Nice update. I'm really liking the Chappy.
Small bit of C&C, the red on your DC (the white models) looks a bit flat, and thin in places, note sure if it's the photo's but. I'd give it a couple of thin coats with the base coat to bring it up a bit, then highlight with and orangey red. The new Wild Rider Red from GW is retty good I've found.
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@mk yes siree this is the secret update. I couldn't wait any longer.
evildrcheese. thanks for the feedback. I will give it a go when I get home. You wouldn't happen to know the old version of that red?
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Another update! Dont worry about him though. He's 'armless
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looking good, i really like the chest eagle
arcal
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I like all of the small things you have done; the Eagle, Gun Holster, Tear on the Helmet and Purity Seal.
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Post by: lipsdapips
Oh damn! Seeing that yellow all over now and its made a huge improvement!
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Ooh, nice proto!
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Post by: evildrcheese
I think the Wild Rider Red is one of the new colours. (not 100% this, someone correct me if I'm wrong)
I think you could get a similar tone with a mix of Blood Red and Blazing Orange though. I'd start 1:1 and graduially add more Blazing Orange til you're happy with the tone though.
The new mini is looking really crisp. Great job.
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Post by: prototype_X
Alright guys 'n' gals, I need a hand here.... Every photo that I take is terrible, the yellow looks awful, and nothing like it actually looks in person.. Anything I can do?
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
All I can really say is better lighting, maybe try near a window or a flurecent (spelling?) light?
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Post by: evildrcheese
Does your camera have a macro setting? It's a setting used for close up photography, especially of small objects.
It should be represented on your camera as a little flower it should look a little something like this:
Thanks for the kind words n my P&M blog by the way. I'm pretty slow for updates, but should have my dev squad up by the end of the month.
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evildrcheese wrote:Does your camera have a macro setting? It's a setting used for close up photography, especially of small objects.
It should be represented on your camera as a little flower it should look a little something like this:
Thanks for the kind words n my P&M blog by the way. I'm pretty slow for updates, but should have my dev squad up by the end of the month.
D
also take a pic of somthing "pure white" to give a color balance reference.
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Post by: prototype_X
My old camera, that I was using before, had macro, but my new phone (samsung galaxy S) doesn't have it. You just tap the screen where you want to focus, that seems to do the same thing. Maybe a white sheet of paper in the background should fix my photo problems.
Thanks guys!
Oh and BTW, if you have time you should check out Evildrcheese's blog, some very nice painting in there.
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Post by: SagesStone
That's a really nice yellow.
Galorn wrote:evildrcheese wrote:Does your camera have a macro setting? It's a setting used for close up photography, especially of small objects.
It should be represented on your camera as a little flower it should look a little something like this:
Thanks for the kind words n my P&M blog by the way. I'm pretty slow for updates, but should have my dev squad up by the end of the month.
D
also take a pic of somthing "pure white" to give a color balance reference.
Like a blank piece of paper, slightly curving so the sharp edges don't throw it off.
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I think the photo is an actual improvement. I agree you should find a suitable color background to use. Something that isn't replecting light. I like dark blue or black. Also indirect or filtered lighting helps. direct lighting caruse the yellow to " white out" the figure.
Start asking around to some of the more professional photo guys- the ones whose photography you like and ask them what they do. Dakka is great for that.
SL
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whens the Stormraven update going to be
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Solar_lion wrote:I think the photo is an actual improvement. I agree you should find a suitable color background to use. Something that isn't replecting light. I like dark blue or black. Also indirect or filtered lighting helps. direct lighting caruse the yellow to " white out" the figure.
Start asking around to some of the more professional photo guys- the ones whose photography you like and ask them what they do. Dakka is great for that.
SL
Thanks SL, and anyone else who gave advice, it really paid off, as you'll see in a sec.
archonalrox wrote:whens the Stormraven update going to be
Hahahah I wasn't going to tell them just yet Alex!
Anyway, I got a Stormraven.. But no paint on that 'till I get a whole lot done on some other models done and dusted!
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Onto today's update!
Some of you will recognize the captain, I know SL will (it's one of the models from his supply drop a while back.... It's a really nice model and although I will probably never play with it. I wanted to pull out all the stops on this one. My original plan was not to show you till it was done, but I was so pleased with how it was turning out that I thought I would chuck some pics up and get some feedback so I could improve it even more.
Notes on the sword... I wanted to do something different, 'cause before that I was just copying someone else's power sword design, and it wasn't mine so to speak. I also wanted to push myself on this model, so I went with star clusters and planets and whatnot. What are your guys thoughts on this? Did it work? I value your guys opinion so please take the time to post it.
Cheers, Proto.
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By god, I know I've seen that model somewhere... Think, Matt, think!
Don't know whether it's just my computer screen, but I can't really see the planets, sorry
But he looks great regardless!
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Okay, those pics are awful, it makes it look terrible! I need a better camera!
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Hmm, tried to fix the first pic for you, now the space-sword can be seen a bit better (hopefully)
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Thanks matt! but I managed to get some much better ones. I love my phone!
C&C guys!
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 Yes those pics are way better!
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Still not quite true to life though, most upsetting
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Hey, at least your camera and phone camera work properly, my phone camera doesn't and both my cameras have faults, one uses that battery up mighty fast and the other doesn't take photos
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Like the sword design! Its unique and looks like whoever gets slashed by it gets sucked into space somewhere and the sword shows the galaxyness...its kickass!
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Post by: evildrcheese
That sword is great. Nice little idea, pitty it's hard to make out the details, but it looks like a nice bit of painting.
D
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Post by: Solar_lion
Good start . some tips.
Make sure your primer is completely covering the figure this will help you identify the tough spots and plan your " attack" on what to paint when. Sometimes a dark wash ( like over white primer) will highlight all the recess’s and help with definition.
Make sure you paint all your base colors completely. I see some sections of bare metal. Under the cloak and inside the cracks. Just like primer these are things you don’t want to go back and touch up later. If you are handling the figure while painting, hold only the base when possible otherwise tack the figure down on an old glue pot or dowel so you can work without touching the figure.
Lastly save the details for last. These things for me are what make the model unique. If I paint the details before the base or finishing up the general features I risk painting over or ruining the detail work.
Over all finish each step with diligence. Anytime you can avoid going back over to fix something or clean up an area is a time saver a well as help you to not become frustrated with a figure or project.
You are improving, take your time , work on steadying you hand and not rushing to get done. Your getting better with every model.
SL
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Solar_lion wrote:Make sure your primer is completely covering the figure this will help you identify the tough spots and plan your " attack" on what to paint when. Sometimes a dark wash ( like over white primer) will highlight all the recess’s and help with definition.
Out of interest what colour wash would you recomend? Or does it depend on what colour the model is going to be? For instance if you were painting a BA marine, would you use a red wash?
D
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MY Opinion... I prefer a dark wash. The intent is to highlight the figure so you can identify all the nooks and cranies.
It's another thing to wash the figure after the base coat. All depends on what your base color is. Then there is detail washing - where you apply the wash carefully to the joints and seems allowing it to pool in more specific places. Your not liberally washing the figure down.
After that there i've seen different techniques of washing to " dirty " or weather a figure.
For My lamenters I use a white primer, wash with sepia. airbrush my base and highlighe color, detail wash with sepia. Do detail work as much as I can with my hands and eyes...then dry brush .
Yellow is open to alot of choices, I've seen red, brown and even purple washes.
For BA most people do red wash. However styles may very. See Eggroll's blog or Meph's for unique yet different styles. Both are excellent and give me something to aspire too some day!
SL
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Proto, how long until these fellows know about your suprise?
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There's a surprise!?!?!
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There is indeed, and I'll let you all know about it very soon.
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But I want to know now!
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Oh, wasn't I supposed to mention the suprise yet?
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I just want to paint some of the suprise up first! Well done Matt! -.-
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erm, no surprise here... just some more Lamenters, yes, that's it, Lamenters...
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Humm.. what suprise
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Post by: prototype_X
Hey guys. An update for you! I know, intense! However it's not a happy update. As I'm sure you've noticed I haven't done to much on my lamenters latley. That's partly through a lack of motivation I guess. So, for now I've decided to put these guys on the backburner for now, and return to them (with renewed gusto) when the time is right.
Anyway, I have decided to make a miscelaneous project log found below.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/485059.page#4913893
Please stop buy and leave a comment.
Oh, and a sneak peek of what you'll find there, more pics in the other blog.
Thanks for your (hopefully continued) support.
Cheers, Proto.
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Post by: Solar_lion
Everyone need a break onece in a while. I look forward to your eventual return
SL
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It just got to the point where I dreaded painting because yellow was just so hard. Mt return shall hopefuly bring with it new techniques and skills.
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Post by: evildrcheese
I lement the change of project, but a change occasionaly is good.
The chaos marines are looking cool by the way.
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Post by: prototype_X
Oh Doctor, that's so cheesy!
Head over to the other blog for more detailed pictures of the Chosen
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prototype_X wrote:Oh Doctor, that's so cheesy!
Head over to the other blog for more detailed pictures of the Chosen
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I know, but I couldn't resist. I'll pop by and have a look now (migth even leave a comment!)
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