I just thought this was worth posting and kind of sad. I was picking up paint from the local comic book store/warhammer and all the jazz stuff. A guy comes in and asks if anyone sold a ton of chaos stuff to this shop. Poor guy had built his chaos army for years. Someone broke in his car and lifted his entire army. He stated, "It was not even the money I care about but the time and energy I put into the army." I relate to that, for sure. What would you do Dakka folks?
What else is there to do but hope you can find it somewhere? If not you'd have to start from scratch and a fair few probably wouldn't if the army was a reasonable size.
Well, it's an excuse to start a new army. However, I would be pissed off. Considering the amount of time you spend on every army. Specially if the whole army was Painted.
#1 make sure the crime is reported to the police. Okay, if they're police like in my area they will do nothing at all, but the crime needs to be reported.
#2 contact every games club & LGS in the area, and a bit further. Ask them to put notices up if possible and include the crime number.
#3 as previously suggested watch eBay and local listing pages like Craigslist, Gumtree, etc.
I was about ready to snap a friend's neck for throwing dice at one of my models cause it was doing well (Fully painted Ghazghull model) Yeah if i found the person who was responsible for stealing my orks I wouldn't think twice i'd assualt them. We as gamers invest too much of ourselves into the hobby not to avenge them in such a fashion. Not that i condone violence but just saying that "I PERSONALLY" would do that .
Man people like that make me made, I could understand breaking in and taking money, cds, wallet, keys, car, ect but the army is a low blow indeed. I am grateful i play orks and my army would be rather unwieldy to rob from me as my carrying case is nearly the size of me! But for that guy he has my sympathies
It always gets me when people steal stuff like this. Any of our local GW staffers who've been around a while could tell the painting style of any of the regulars, lots of people can recognise their friends' armies and painting styles. So as soon as it gets sold, it becomes obvious. But still, people still steal home made swords that are distinctive, livestock and chickens that are the results of generations of breeding and are shown in all the local shows so everyone knows them, medieval re-enactment arrows and archery gear, home made armour.
Stuff that is hard to sell, easy to identify the owner and has more sentimental than monetary value.
Big Mek Wurrzog wrote:I was about ready to snap a friend's neck for throwing dice at one of my models cause it was doing well (Fully painted Ghazghull model) Yeah if i found the person who was responsible for stealing my orks I wouldn't think twice i'd assualt them. We as gamers invest too much of ourselves into the hobby not to avenge them in such a fashion. Not that i condone violence but just saying that "I PERSONALLY" would do that .
Man people like that make me made, I could understand breaking in and taking money, cds, wallet, keys, car, ect but the army is a low blow indeed. I am grateful i play orks and my army would be rather unwieldy to rob from me as my carrying case is nearly the size of me! But for that guy he has my sympathies
"You can take my car but DON'T TOUCH MY PLASTIC TOY SOLDIERS!."
Big Mek Wurrzog wrote:I was about ready to snap a friend's neck for throwing dice at one of my models cause it was doing well (Fully painted Ghazghull model) Yeah if i found the person who was responsible for stealing my orks I wouldn't think twice i'd assualt them. We as gamers invest too much of ourselves into the hobby not to avenge them in such a fashion. Not that i condone violence but just saying that "I PERSONALLY" would do that .
Man people like that make me made, I could understand breaking in and taking money, cds, wallet, keys, car, ect but the army is a low blow indeed. I am grateful i play orks and my army would be rather unwieldy to rob from me as my carrying case is nearly the size of me! But for that guy he has my sympathies
"You can take my car but DON'T TOUCH MY PLASTIC TOY SOLDIERS!."
Iranna.
More or less lol, I am confident one is easier to find than the other.
The Apothecary wrote:Well, it's an excuse to start a new army. However, I would be pissed off. Considering the amount of time you spend on every army. Specially if the whole army was Painted.
And what common crook steals what are more or less, toys?
What kind of case did the guy have it in? Maybe the theif thought it was a gun or something.
Seriously. They'll take anything. Everything i mentioned in my post has happened to people I know.
Though there was the time we were broken into and they stole all this junk jewellery I'd been given that was worth nothing and I never wore and probably would have given away anyway, but missed the $1200 cash sitting in a drawer. A drawer they went through.
CadianCommander wrote:It always gets me when people steal stuff like this. Any of our local GW staffers who've been around a while could tell the painting style of any of the regulars, lots of people can recognise their friends' armies and painting styles. So as soon as it gets sold, it becomes obvious. But still, people still steal home made swords that are distinctive, livestock and chickens that are the results of generations of breeding and are shown in all the local shows so everyone knows them, medieval re-enactment arrows and archery gear, home made armour.
Stuff that is hard to sell, easy to identify the owner and has more sentimental than monetary value.
Stupid, selfish idiots.
Well, IDK about medieval reenacting stuff, but some of the stuff my WWII unit could sold for pretty penny.
Most of the cases we carry minis in look like gun or tool cases. You can make decent money on either at a pawn shop, and a common crook won't take the time to check inside a case before taking it.
I've often stepped away from my models in a gaming store with no problem. Guess I been lucky. I naively figured that there was an unspoken code of honor or something that you don't mess with someone else's minis. But, the dishonorable are everywhere. This is an unfortunate reminder of that.
Well, with warhammer you can pretty much be sure that it was a fellow player who took your stuff. I highly doubt the average thief would bother with lifting toy models.
Also, assaulting someone over warhammer figs is silly.
You should just cut their break lines and pour sugar in their gas tanks.
I work in insurance and I actually thought about what I would do if my house burnt down or everything got stolen... so i've listed everything I have and have it stored in my email in the event something like that happens so I can claim it accurately and get money from my insurance company.
What would I do once I got that money? I likely wouldnt buy 3 armies again, but invest in 1... i mean i have over 7k points in Necrons and I think thats what I would go back to get again. Sadly though, as I purchase all of those new models, all I would think of is all the bloody time and effort I would need to put back into it.
Sadly, I've heard that it is a good idea to check nearby dumpsters if your army is stolen. The thief probably thought they were tools or guns, and when they discovered otherwise, may have just chucked them out.
n0t_u wrote:What else is there to do but hope you can find it somewhere? If not you'd have to start from scratch and a fair few probably wouldn't if the army was a reasonable size.
Well, you can eventually find it at ebay sold in pieces. I'd watch out for it.
DreadlordME! wrote:Yes, that is all that will be left AFTER HIS ETERNAL TORTURE IN DA WARP!!!!!!!
I can't trust in the warp, I depend on an empty rented warehouse far from earshot, rusty nails, pliers, a car battery, and small metal rings/needles/wire along with a hacksaw, a mop, and black trash bags along with a Chinese resturant /hot dog vendor that won't ask any questions.
Well for my friends sake I'd post pictures of the army on all the forum sites for 40k and all trading sites and say stolen and tell if seen. report to police, then hope you find out who it is, then bash the feth out of them.
Maybe the thief thought it was something valuable, nicked it and then was like, "WTF?!", and dumped it. It might be worthwhile for you to have a look in the vicinity of where the car was parked.
Banzaimash wrote:Maybe the thief thought it was something valuable, nicked it and then was like, "WTF?!", and dumped it. It might be worthwhile for you to have a look in the vicinity of where the car was parked.
you know what would REALLY hurt? If you just find your case in a dumpster, walk towards it to pull it out......... and the guy driving the bin lorry pics it up, flings into the rear of his vehicle and the last you hear of your beautifully painted army is a sickening crunsh as it disappears in the grinding mecanism. Ouch, It hurts even THINKING about it.......
Banzaimash wrote:Maybe the thief thought it was something valuable, nicked it and then was like, "WTF?!", and dumped it. It might be worthwhile for you to have a look in the vicinity of where the car was parked.
you know what would REALLY hurt? If you just find your case in a dumpster, walk towards it to pull it out......... and the guy driving the bin lorry pics it up, flings into the rear of his vehicle and the last you hear of your beautifully painted army is a sickening crunsh as it disappears in the grinding mecanism. Ouch, It hurts even THINKING about it.......
.......the whole disturbance in the force line from Obi-Wan comes to mind right here
Rottooth wrote:I've often stepped away from my models in a gaming store with no problem. Guess I been lucky. I naively figured that there was an unspoken code of honor or something that you don't mess with someone else's minis. But, the dishonorable are everywhere. This is an unfortunate reminder of that.
But the typical gamer isn't really a desparado that would steal models, although the Eternal Warriors podcast reported that some (Valuable) MTG cards were stolen at the most recent Gen Con. But I bet in this case the car was probably broken into for the case the models were in as an above poster said.
killykavekommando wrote:I'd exercise my inner Kommissar on that bastard.
Yeah, or just give him a taste of yer Slugga (or bolt-pistol).
That really stinks, I have had my orkz broken upon every visit to a hobby store, but never had I needed to face theft. I agree that the guy thought it was a gun or the like, but really? Taking miniatures? What kind lowlife would do that?
moom241 wrote:I once came back to a hobby table to find my sentinel broken off at the legs. No one said they saw anything.
I know the feeling. In my first ever game (at a school lunchtime club) half my models ended up smashed... I left to get a sandwhich and return to find all the models, both mine and my opponents, piled in a stack in the center of the table. The room was deserted.
killykavekommando wrote:I'd exercise my inner Kommissar on that bastard.
Yeah, or just give him a taste of yer Slugga (or bolt-pistol).
That really stinks, I have had my orkz broken upon every visit to a hobby store, but never had I needed to face theft. I agree that the guy thought it was a gun or the like, but really? Taking miniatures? What kind lowlife would do that?
Or, taze him in the gonads. That'll leave a mark.
Some a-hole shot my tau with a Nerf gun one game, so I just packed up and left the room without a word.
killykavekommando wrote:I'd exercise my inner Kommissar on that bastard.
Yeah, or just give him a taste of yer Slugga (or bolt-pistol).
That really stinks, I have had my orkz broken upon every visit to a hobby store, but never had I needed to face theft. I agree that the guy thought it was a gun or the like, but really? Taking miniatures? What kind lowlife would do that?
Or, taze him in the gonads. That'll leave a mark.
Some a-hole shot my tau with a Nerf gun one game, so I just packed up and left the room without a word.
Is smacking someone with a .45 magazine considered assault with a deadly weapon?
killykavekommando wrote:I'd exercise my inner Kommissar on that bastard.
Yeah, or just give him a taste of yer Slugga (or bolt-pistol).
That really stinks, I have had my orkz broken upon every visit to a hobby store, but never had I needed to face theft. I agree that the guy thought it was a gun or the like, but really? Taking miniatures? What kind lowlife would do that?
Or, taze him in the gonads. That'll leave a mark.
Some a-hole shot my tau with a Nerf gun one game, so I just packed up and left the room without a word.
Is smacking someone with a .45 magazine considered assault with a deadly weapon?
Only if the mag is attached to a gun.
To the OP: find him and dirty sanchez him with a chainsaw covered in feces.
Was in our local GW on a very busy morning and needed a new case. I play IG and only had a small case so decided to get a big one. Of course there's all the cases with people's names on them and mainly they're close to the ones for sale cos it's most out of the way. So I grab an unmarked case sitting with all the cases for sale, no markings, looks brand new.
Carry it around the store for a while, chat to the guys as they ring it through on the register, pay for it and head out. Spend a bit of time in the shopping centre, then stop off on our way home at a few other shops. Been a long day so far and have to go to an 18th birthday that night so get home and dump the new case to go watch some Invader Zim.
Just about to jump in the shower and start getting ready when I have a quick look at facebook. And there on our GW's store FB is an urgent message asking if anyone has picked up this guy's army cos it's gone walk about.
I'm like "pfft, as if, my case is brand new" but you check these things anyway on the offchance. OMG. There's a red Tau army in my 'brand new case'. Even though the store was meant to have shut a couple minutes ago, luckily the boys are still there.
Turns out they thought it was stolen, had security scouring the shopping centre (a lot of the security guards where the GW stores are also play) and the guy whose army it was is the kinda guy that will give you the shirt off his back and always trying to help everyone out. They were all devastated someone would steal his army.
So we arrange to take it in when we're next going into the store cos the owner wasn't going to be in until the following Saturday anyway.
I kept them up to date with the adventures of what the red Tau army were getting up to during the week, like getting into fights with the IG for snickering at bits from the primer, the unpainted armies getting jealous cos here's a new army that's painted, etc.
To this day we tease the feth out of the boys in the store and demand they provide a free army when selling cases.
So really, I've stolen an army right out of the store!
I really, really hope that guy marks his case now....
People will probably think I'm a paranoid lunatic but am I the only one thinking that roving deathsquads are the only way to both reduce Crime rate and, in certain parts of the world, increase IQ's to more than that of the average whelk?
If someone stole my miniatures, I'd probably torture them by NOT sexually assaulting them.
I wouldn't do anything to them.
On the other hand, right now I play only at home, and my minis never leave the house except to be taken out to the front to be primed. I've considered going to the local GW to find a game on their 40k night, but I end up thinking, "What if my army gets stolen?" or, "What if my minis get damaged?" and changing my mind.
On the other OTHER hand, we've accidentally left the garage door open for hours on end, even overnight on occasion, and nothing ever gets stolen. I'm fortunate to live in a relatively low-crime area. Which isn't to say crime doesn't happen at all here, there have been thefts and vandalism and stuff, and even the occasional murder - including a moving gun battle between gang members in two cars driving at high speed down a residential road - but around here, the cops are usually so bored that they get criticized for handing out too many traffic tickets.
Anyways, I wouldn't sexually assault anyone who stole my miniatures. My theory is that everyone wants hugs. By not hugging them, it's the worst torture of all.
[In case it wasn't clear, where I live, hugging people against their will is sexual assault. At least to the best of my knowledge.]
If someone stole my army, I'd terrorize them for a year. You know, slashing the tires on their car, spray painting on their house, breaking into it and thrashing stuff while they're on vacation and that sort of thing. I obviously wouldn't assault or kill 'em, but I'd make sure they suffered.
I don't understand all the people advocating assault and battery here.
Depending on the value of the Army, it can easily get into felony charges range, and that's a much better way to get back at someone, than a one time beating which can land yourself in a lot of trouble as well.
Sasori wrote:I don't understand all the people advocating assault and battery here.
Depending on the value of the Army, it can easily get into felony charges range, and that's a much better way to get back at someone, than a one time beating which can land yourself in a lot of trouble as well.
So far I've been reading it all as hyperbole. Stuff that people say to express their emotional attachments to their miniatures, but would never even consider doing in real life.
And of course there's the usual, "See who can come up with the nastiest way to get back at someone who has wronged you," contests that come up when men get together and talk about bad things happening to good people.
Sasori wrote:I don't understand all the people advocating assault and battery here.
Depending on the value of the Army, it can easily get into felony charges range, and that's a much better way to get back at someone, than a one time beating which can land yourself in a lot of trouble as well.
So far I've been reading it all as hyperbole. Stuff that people say to express their emotional attachments to their miniatures, but would never even consider doing in real life.
And of course there's the usual, "See who can come up with the nastiest way to get back at someone who has wronged you," contests that come up when men get together and talk about bad things happening to good people.
Hmm my actual actions, if someone tried stealing my mini's right in front of me, I would probably slug them(no clue if I would win a fight against them), however if as the OP states occured to me I would report to police, post pictures, and then go sit in a corner and cry as my lone valkyrie got in the mail
LoneLictor wrote:If someone stole my army, I'd terrorize them for a year. You know, slashing the tires on their car, spray painting on their house, breaking into it and thrashing stuff while they're on vacation and that sort of thing. I obviously wouldn't assault or kill 'em, but I'd make sure they suffered.
Yes, because making someones life hell isn't criminal so long as you don't hurt them
Sasori wrote:I don't understand all the people advocating assault and battery here.
Depending on the value of the Army, it can easily get into felony charges range, and that's a much better way to get back at someone, than a one time beating which can land yourself in a lot of trouble as well.
We really have two different possibilities: is the incident a burglary or robbery?
Any retaliation for burglary is illegal. Robbery, however, is a much different story. In the US, deadly force is legal in the resistance of armed, and in some cases unarmed, robbery.
So in some places, NY for example, killing someone to protect yourself during robbery of your 40k army would not be criminal at all.
moom241 wrote:I once came back to a hobby table to find my sentinel broken off at the legs. No one said they saw anything.
I know the feeling. In my first ever game (at a school lunchtime club) half my models ended up smashed... I left to get a sandwhich and return to find all the models, both mine and my opponents, piled in a stack in the center of the table. The room was deserted.
Sasori wrote:I don't understand all the people advocating assault and battery here.
Depending on the value of the Army, it can easily get into felony charges range, and that's a much better way to get back at someone, than a one time beating which can land yourself in a lot of trouble as well.
You are right, if it was someone this guy knew. (possible) Then it would be tempting to corner them and blindeside them. Though you are very correct, beating someone up is just going to land you an assault charge. I knew people on Dakka would understand this guy's plight. Anyone else would just laugh, even his insurance wants to dispute the costs. The time and energy he spent is really what seemed to bring him down. I am going to get this guys name if he plays at the local store and get an idea of what he has/paint scheme/carrying case. Then maybe someone on here just might see the stuff pop up. Dakka detectives.
That really sucks man. I own a chaos army too, and I can't imagine how'd I'd feel if the whole thing got jacked.
I cover up all my valuables in the car, or just leave them at home. I've been paranoid about theft ever since some dudes broke into our house and stole my N64 when I was about five. Broke my heart. I figure it can't hurt to be too careful.
Keep your friends close, and your possessions closer. That's the phrase, right?
Also, you guys have way too much anger. Odds are, if you actually found out who jacked your stuff, you'd either: 1. Get the gak beaten out of you by someone who obviously knows the risks and comes prepared, possibly with a weapon 2. Chicken out and slink back to your computer and complain about/ whine 3. Get a bunch of friends to help you, like a coward
This is real life. People are dangerous. They will hurt you. It isn't the movies, where thieves 'get what's coming to them' and skip town. Attacking anyone is a bad idea, especially criminals. Call the cops. That's the only thing you should do.
yep it does suck... i had my shed broke in to with all my armies in there. They opened all my army cases and left them empty. They didnt take anything apart from my tool box and some power drill bits. I guess they were looking for power tools. They obviously had no idea of the value of a load of plastic soldiers..... im kinda glad that they seemed to be worthless to the thiefs... It was only when the forensics guy came round to dust for prints and went OMG is that all your collection of GW stuff... did they take any that i got an alarm fitted to the shed!
Samus_aran115 wrote:That really sucks man. I own a chaos army too, and I can't imagine how'd I'd feel if the whole thing got jacked.
I cover up all my valuables in the car, or just leave them at home. I've been paranoid about theft ever since some dudes broke into our house and stole my N64 when I was about five. Broke my heart. I figure it can't hurt to be too careful.
Keep your friends close, and your possessions closer. That's the phrase, right?
Also, you guys have way too much anger. Odds are, if you actually found out who jacked your stuff, you'd either:
1. Get the gak beaten out of you by someone who obviously knows the risks and comes prepared, possibly with a weapon
2. Chicken out and slink back to your computer and complain about/ whine
3. Get a bunch of friends to help you, like a coward
This is real life. People are dangerous. They will hurt you. It isn't the movies, where thieves 'get what's coming to them' and skip town. Attacking anyone is a bad idea, especially criminals. Call the cops. That's the only thing you should do.
You are right, if it was a run of the mill thief, chances are they would have no problem stabbing someone. Good thing no one can get access to my stuff, unless they want to get pistol whipped. Whether I was home or not. Gotta love those good ol southern boys.
Necroshea wrote:Well, with warhammer you can pretty much be sure that it was a fellow player who took your stuff. I highly doubt the average thief would bother with lifting toy models.
Not true at all.
Most car break ins are done as "smash and grabs". A thief sees some hard plastics cases in a car and assumes (as is usually the case) that they must contain something valuable like electronics or guns.
He doesnt open them to inspect at the scene of the crime, he grabs and runs.
Imagine his dissapointment when he opens them only to find "toys".
The two times I have known people to have had army cases stolen from their cars they found the armies dumped nearby (one on the ground and another in a nearby dumpster a few blocks away).
One of the main drawbacks of using hard army cases as they co closely resemble what the avergae joe will assume is a gun/camera case, etc.
Sasori wrote:I don't understand all the people advocating assault and battery here.
Depending on the value of the Army, it can easily get into felony charges range, and that's a much better way to get back at someone, than a one time beating which can land yourself in a lot of trouble as well.
Because the American & Canadian criminal justice systems don't really involve the victim of the crime in any real capacity other than as an observer, which tends to remove any catharsis. Additionally, victims all typically have an innate desire to 'make a difference' as a means of empowering themselves in the face of victimization, which typically will translate to some method of deterring others from repeating the crime of which that person had been a victim. Given that proper deterrence requires celerity, severity & certainty, it is tough for a victim to leave that deterrence to the state, considering the former and latter principles are often completely lost in an already overburdened criminal justice system. While pure severity of punishment may be enough for some victims, its empowering effect is seriously mitigated in that the punishment's source is completely autonomous from the victim. Thus, people tend to advocate vigilantism because it accomplishes all those deterring effects, and tends to have a more direct feeling of 'justice' for the victim, even though in reality this may not be the case.
Also, this is the Internet, and everyone here is violent and abusive.
Also, this is the Internet, and everyone here is violent and abusive.
Very true. It's also where everyone complains about everything and argues about everything. Put all these things together, and you have a recipe for disaster
I can't honestly say that I'd do any harm to the thief myself. I'd call the police, and embarassedly tell them someone stole a large collection of plastic models, and hope for the best. If I managed to find out who did myself (like by checking online auctions and such), I'd still call the police. It isn't worth the risk of dying over some plastic
Also, if you use GW army cases, leave the games-workshop emblem side facing up. Should deter most thieves, I'd imagine.
If you really want to be safe, use a battleforce sized box. That's what I do. Doesn't look like anything but toys.
Samus_aran115 wrote:Also, if you use GW army cases, leave the games-workshop emblem side facing up. Should deter most thieves, I'd imagine.
If you really want to be safe, use a battleforce sized box. That's what I do. Doesn't look like anything but toys.
I just keep the case in my trunk. I'd hate to have a thief disappointed that the box only had toys in it after he's gone to all the trouble of smashing my window that carries a $300.00 deductible on my insurance.
Samus_aran115 wrote:That really sucks man. I own a chaos army too, and I can't imagine how'd I'd feel if the whole thing got jacked.
I cover up all my valuables in the car, or just leave them at home. I've been paranoid about theft ever since some dudes broke into our house and stole my N64 when I was about five. Broke my heart. I figure it can't hurt to be too careful.
Keep your friends close, and your possessions closer. That's the phrase, right?
Also, you guys have way too much anger. Odds are, if you actually found out who jacked your stuff, you'd either:
1. Get the gak beaten out of you by someone who obviously knows the risks and comes prepared, possibly with a weapon
2. Chicken out and slink back to your computer and complain about/ whine
3. Get a bunch of friends to help you, like a coward
This is real life. People are dangerous. They will hurt you. It isn't the movies, where thieves 'get what's coming to them' and skip town. Attacking anyone is a bad idea, especially criminals. Call the cops. That's the only thing you should do.
Heh, there is a valuable posession on my person I never conceal.....my smith&wesson, so I suppose if someone did steal my stuff they are ballsier than I would be (I personally would not be nutty enough to steal from someone open carrying). However the best recourse as you stated was to call law enforcement. Generally the best way to handle these type of things if you catch the person in the act is just to confront them verbally AND call law enforcement.
Samus_aran115 wrote:Smith and Wesson what? Your answer will determine how scared a potential thief would be
Yeah, I see your point though. I'd look like a fool if I carried my Kabar around with me everywhere, but it sure would keep criminals away, haha.
M&P45....about like a glock, but much more comfortable, and why not Kabar's are appropriate for any situation, clearing a trench, digging a small hole, gutting a pig (I litterally mean porky, a friend of mine did that for S&G's) etc.
Samus_aran115 wrote:Smith and Wesson what? Your answer will determine how scared a potential thief would be
Yeah, I see your point though. I'd look like a fool if I carried my Kabar around with me everywhere, but it sure would keep criminals away, haha.
M&P45....about like a glock, but much more comfortable, and why not Kabar's are appropriate for any situation, clearing a trench, digging a small hole, gutting a pig (I litterally mean porky, a friend of mine did that for S&G's) etc.
Spoiler:
I thought you meant a S&W knife, haha. They make a very nice Survival Knife that I've heard good things about
Well, I'm getting a little off topic, but hey. I just think my kabar is a bit extreme for most things, and I don't want to catch any gruff just from carrying it. I'm thinking about getting a SOG Seal Pup Elite for every day carry, which is pretty small. My kabar is overall 11 inches :3
I have an eversion to folding knives. They just erk me.
Almost any knife can be beneficially in protecting yourself, if you know how to use it
The Knife bans in GB P**s me off. what are you going to kill someone with? a £300 dedicated combat knife that takes 3 weeks to get there or a £7 kitchen knife from the supermarket? Idiots...
Also 90% of amateur(?) Knife wounds are superficial. Just to comfort y'all
Even beyond that... You can buy an Axe or a Hammer at the hardware store, which can cause significantly more damage than a knife (mostly) to both people and property.
Knife laws are built around Dogma and personal fear, not logic. A switchblade is a very useful tool for people like policemen and EMS personel who need to hit a button and be ready to assist those in need, but they're banned in most places because of their attachment to gang behavior. A switchblade isn't inherently more dangerous than any other sort of knife.
Also, this is the Internet, and everyone here is violent and abusive.
Very true. It's also where everyone complains about everything and argues about everything. Put all these things together, and you have a recipe for disaster
I can't honestly say that I'd do any harm to the thief myself. I'd call the police, and embarassedly tell them someone stole a large collection of plastic models, and hope for the best. If I managed to find out who did myself (like by checking online auctions and such), I'd still call the police. It isn't worth the risk of dying over some plastic
Also, if you use GW army cases, leave the games-workshop emblem side facing up. Should deter most thieves, I'd imagine.
If you really want to be safe, use a battleforce sized box. That's what I do. Doesn't look like anything but toys.
Heh. A lot of my larger miniatures, and even many of my infantry-sized ones, are currently resting in halves of the boxes that tanks come in - plus I think I have a bunch of stuff in Ork Megaforce and Island of Blood and Assault on Black Reach box halves - which in turn are resting on a nice, cheap shelving unit - I think the unit plus two extra shelves cost me less than fifty Canadian dollars. The miniatures are clearly visible, as intended - as I like to know what is where.
However, I've started getting more cardboard KR cases - I have three on order waiting to be processed - to put my infantry in. My vehicles seem fine on the shelves for now, so I haven't worried so much about them yet.
Are brown cardboard boxes with a logo and a black plastic handle at elevated risk as well?
Edit: But yeah, the family van happens to have tinted windows except for driver's window, passenger's window, and windshield. So I can easily put my stuff behind a seat, and for extra safety, cover it up with a light blanket - our car, like our house, is very messy, so it doesn't look out of place. We didn't plan it that way - we were lucky. We've used the blanket to put over expensive electronics in the past, as well as larger GW stuff like megaforces.
i hate to say it, but i would put a lot of $ on the army being in a dumpster somewhere. i work for the police, and the thief probably saw something that looks to normal people like a computer or gun case (i.e. something valuable) and upon opening it probably said something along the lines of 'WTF dollies!' and pitched it.
the moral of the story is this...dont leave anything in your car that you are not willing to lose. not even in your driveway, not even for 10 minutes. vehicle burglaries are one of the few crimes that are completely, totally preventable. hopefully it is a lesson learned.
I had my pickup broken into, they looked through my cases, but didn't have much interest in little painted men. A word of advice, though. Don't keep your codexes and army books in old laptop cases. Apparently, the thieves thought they were laptops, grabbed the cases, and vamoosed! I was extremely fortunate in that they had to escape by climbing a nearby fence, and opened the cases to figure out what laptops to take - and found game books. Dumped them all out in the bushes, and took, of all things, the dice. Got most of my stuff back, and now have a trunk instead of a truck cab, and don't use laptop bags to attract attention.
Like I said I feel bad for the guy because in most those circumstances you don't feel like you deserved it. But this is why choosing a gaming store and carrying case are so important for you to maintain your investment properly. My gaming store 9 times out of 10 will have friends looking out for me but also a few ex-cops who play as well that are good friends of mine I have left my army on the table for hours before unattended or not even in the store for this (a little bit of risk but I felt confident knowing someone would notice something up. My case is one of those large looks like luggage containers nearly past my abs in height (so about 4.5 ft) and about as wide as me as well, so it's not as easy as per say other armies like grey knights for example (i assume they leave with a baggy? maybe a tiny shoe box? lol j/k) but my ponderous force is a bit hard to come by and I never punish them by keeping them in the cold or heat of my car since I have no garage. Not to mention I keep them in the house to consider new paint jobs.
Thats very disheartening to hear. I would be on the look out for it and would probably even help out to buy a few "replacements". I know it probably not what the person would want since it wouldnt be "their models" but I think it would help a bit. Right? Everyone like shiney new models.
ser_hag wrote:i hate to say it, but i would put a lot of $ on the army being in a dumpster somewhere. i work for the police, and the thief probably saw something that looks to normal people like a computer or gun case (i.e. something valuable) and upon opening it probably said something along the lines of 'WTF dollies!' and pitched it.
Creon wrote:I had my pickup broken into, they looked through my cases, but didn't have much interest in little painted men. A word of advice, though. Don't keep your codexes and army books in old laptop cases. Apparently, the thieves thought they were laptops, grabbed the cases, and vamoosed! I was extremely fortunate in that they had to escape by climbing a nearby fence, and opened the cases to figure out what laptops to take - and found game books. Dumped them all out in the bushes, and took, of all things, the dice. Got most of my stuff back, and now have a trunk instead of a truck cab, and don't use laptop bags to attract attention.
They still took the dice? why lol
hmm must have thought they were cocaine cubes or somthing. Its just a shame they were in cover and out of firing range
ZacktheChaosChild wrote:Fething punks. I really don't understand people like this. I would never steal something from a fellow gamer.
Here here, I bet the type of people that would do that are the ones who refuse defeat lie about rules and throw dice when you've beat them at the game. Even though I am with ya, I understand the opprotunity.... not that i condone it.
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Kabar's are appropriate for any situation, clearing a trench, digging a small hole, gutting a pig (I litterally mean porky, a friend of mine did that for S&G's) etc.
