http://kotaku.com/5876253/thq-wipes-out-games-planned-for-2014-to-ready-itself-for-sale-says-insider

Kotaku wrote:Rumor spreading fast via Twitter on Sunday holds that THQ has canceled its entire 2014 slate of releases to position the company for sale.

Kevin Dent, a games industry veteran, tweeted late yesterday that THQ had canceled an MMO it was developing under license from The Games Workshop, meaning Warhammer 40,000: Dark Millenium Online (pictured above). Dent went on to say that the publisher had also canceled all projects due for release in 2014 and was in the process of returning intellectual property to their licensors.

Rumor is spreading fast. It says it right there. Wait for an official statement from THQ before jumping on board with what this guy says.

Ups, I've enjoyed some THQ games, so I'm sorry they are going to sell the company.

About the MMO... I never liked how it looks. I know it was on early stages, but it didn't convinced me, so maybe door is open to another company to do a better job (always IMO).

Why did THQ's share price drop from 6 dollars to 66 cents over the course of a year?

Medium of Death wrote:Why did THQ's share price drop from 6 dollars to 66 cents over the course of a year?

Homefront dropped their stocks down 26% alone. Red Faction: Armageddon was a flop as well. Space Marine sold alright from what I can tell, but not amazingly well.

Hmm, it does explain why Relic made mention of not doing a Space Marine sequel a while ago. If THQ releases the 40k IP then Relic can't use it either.

Hah! At least we'll be spared an undignified failure of a MMO, set against the likes of SWTOR and WoW

BrookM wrote:Hmm, it does explain why Relic made mention of not doing a Space Marine sequel a while ago. If THQ releases the 40k IP then Relic can't use it either.

The head of THQ, if I recall correctly, said there wouldn't be one in the future because it would compete with Dark Milennium for sales. Two Space Marine-centric games in the same universe being released around the same time wouldn't be good for business.

Agamemnon2 wrote:Hah! At least we'll be spared an undignified failure of a MMO, set against the likes of SWTOR and WoW

WoW has been circling the drain for a while now. Also how is a game we haven't even played, let alone seen finished gameplay of, guaranteed to be a failure?

So is DoW 3 safe?

Assuming all this is true?

Unless another publisher can acquire both Relic and the 40K license, no. It's not gonna happen.

On the plus side, we may see Homeworld 3 sooner rather than later.

Sucks for everyone waiting for the 40K MMO, but I think it's good for the hobby in the long run; gamers will spend more time at the table and less at the PC.

Agamemnon2 wrote:Hah! At least we'll be spared an undignified failure of a MMO, set against the likes of SWTOR and WoW

Exactly.

Lorek wrote:

Sucks for everyone waiting for the 40K MMO, but I think it's good for the hobby in the long run; gamers will spend more time at the table and less at the PC.

I've never heard of anyone spending less time playing 40K because of Dawn of War/Space Marine, and conversely, I've never met anyone who picked up the tabletop game because of the video games.

Excepting that SWTOR was a boring wow-like game with added lightsabers and alot of voice acting, yes.

Hmm, be interesting if THQ did go under. Strange though, it seems so sudden

Brother SRM wrote:[

Agamemnon2 wrote:Hah! At least we'll be spared an undignified failure of a MMO, set against the likes of SWTOR and WoW

WoW has been circling the drain for a while now. Also how is a game we haven't even played, let alone seen finished gameplay of, guaranteed to be a failure?

This may be more appropriate for the video game forum but imo MMO's is just a way for a company to shoot itself in the foot. These days its really hard for MMOs to do well aside from the first few months of "new car smell"

So many recent MMOs just fall flat on their face and end up a sinking ship. Maybe I have a skewed view so feel free to correct me but after watching WAR, Star Trek, DC Universe, Lego Universe, and numerous others fade into obscurity/movetowards F2P, I just dont see much hope

RatBot wrote:

Lorek wrote:

Sucks for everyone waiting for the 40K MMO, but I think it's good for the hobby in the long run; gamers will spend more time at the table and less at the PC.

I've never heard of anyone spending less time playing 40K because of Dawn of War/Space Marine, and conversely, I've never met anyone who picked up the tabletop game because of the video games.

A lot of people have picked up tabletop 40k from the DoW games. I regularly see people post in the introduction section talking about how that's what got them started with 40k, and a few personal friends of mine got back into the game because of DoW. I know it's what turned my casual interest into the timesink obsession it is now.

So does this mean the BT will not be released then or it will now? Will they wait and hold off BT just in case the MMO comes back in another form or from another company?

Davor wrote:So does this mean the BT will not be released then or it will now? Will they wait and hold off BT just in case the MMO comes back in another form or from another company?

Thinking there was any correlation between the two is/was wishful thinking.

Brother SRM wrote:

Medium of Death wrote:Why did THQ's share price drop from 6 dollars to 66 cents over the course of a year?

Homefront dropped their stocks down 26% alone. Red Faction: Armageddon was a flop as well. Space Marine sold alright from what I can tell, but not amazingly well.

Space Marine exceeded their sales expectations, selling/shipping (can't remember which) over a million copies on all platforms combined. That's not enough to save a publisher singlehandedly though. Sucks about the MMO if true. Between SWTOR and the 40k MMO, I was expecting one of them to make me take the MMO plunge for the first time. SWTOR seemed too much like WOW from the mechanics to draw me in, leaving only Dark Millenium.

Well, I'm kind of conflicted about this one. Personally, I couldn't care less about MMOs, but I know a couple of people who were really looking forward to this, so I'm disappointed for their sake.

This sucks if true: I was actually going to play this one. And I hate MMORPGs

I was really looking forward to this game. Would be sad to see THQ go.

I find it bizarre that the company could tank that hard and that fast due to a few games that lagged behind. Did they have no backup line of credit or capitol? If this is true then I'm sad, I had been looking forward to that game.

ShumaGorath wrote:I find it bizarre that the company could tank that hard and that fast due to a few games that lagged behind. Did they have no backup line of credit or capitol?

Modern video games are ludicrously expensive to make, one significant failure can put a company back hugely.

ph34r wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:I find it bizarre that the company could tank that hard and that fast due to a few games that lagged behind. Did they have no backup line of credit or capitol?

Modern video games are ludicrously expensive to make, one significant failure can put a company back hugely.

THQ was not a small production house though. They had over a billion in revenue in 2007. It should take more then a few games slumping to bring them down this hard and fast.

ShumaGorath wrote:

ph34r wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:I find it bizarre that the company could tank that hard and that fast due to a few games that lagged behind. Did they have no backup line of credit or capitol?

Modern video games are ludicrously expensive to make, one significant failure can put a company back hugely.

THQ was not a small production house though. They had over a billion in revenue in 2007. It should take more then a few games slumping to bring them down this hard and fast.

Well as it stands, there no official report anyways. For all we know, this is a misunderstanding/hoax

Bah, there goes my excuse for quitting EVE. Now how am I going to avoid spending the next few months shooting structures?

Back to EVE it is. /Istvaan

Brother SRM wrote:

WoW has been circling the drain for a while now. Also how is a game we haven't even played, let alone seen finished gameplay of, guaranteed to be a failure?

There's no proof in your statement about WoW. Your personal opinion? Ok, but no proof.

As for the 40kMMO, yea, this thing has been dead for a long time. How do we know this? NO MARKETING, no new screenshots, no interviews, no news of any kind about it since their HUGE splash at E3. Game companies advertise their projects to keep up interest. Notice how Vigil (makers to the 40k mmo) is putting out lots of new information about Darksiders 2, yet... nothing about the MMO? There's a reason: the mmo is doing horrible.

And now it seems to be dead.

Moopy wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

WoW has been circling the drain for a while now. Also how is a game we haven't even played, let alone seen finished gameplay of, guaranteed to be a failure?

There's no proof in your statement about WoW. Your personal opinion? Ok, but no proof.

...

There is, actually.

http://kotaku.com/5800175/world-of-warcraft-suffers-post+cataclysmic-drop-in-subscriptions

http://pc.ign.com/articles/118/1186203p1.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Q3-2011-Mike-Morhaime-China-Pandaria-GAAP,13934.html

Moopy wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

WoW has been circling the drain for a while now. Also how is a game we haven't even played, let alone seen finished gameplay of, guaranteed to be a failure?

There's no proof in your statement about WoW. Your personal opinion? Ok, but no proof.

As for the 40kMMO, yea, this thing has been dead for a long time. How do we know this? NO MARKETING, no new screenshots, no interviews, no news of any kind about it since their HUGE splash at E3. Game companies advertise their projects to keep up interest. Notice how Vigil (makers to the 40k mmo) is putting out lots of new information about Darksiders 2, yet... nothing about the MMO? There's a reason: the mmo is doing horrible.

And now it seems to be dead.

MMOs tend to give off information in spurts, not the usual drip feed. SWOTR went silent for nearly a year at one point. It's part of the development cycle. It's useless to hype a game that isn't coming out for years.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Moopy wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

WoW has been circling the drain for a while now. Also how is a game we haven't even played, let alone seen finished gameplay of, guaranteed to be a failure?

There's no proof in your statement about WoW. Your personal opinion? Ok, but no proof.

As for the 40kMMO, yea, this thing has been dead for a long time. How do we know this? NO MARKETING, no new screenshots, no interviews, no news of any kind about it since their HUGE splash at E3. Game companies advertise their projects to keep up interest. Notice how Vigil (makers to the 40k mmo) is putting out lots of new information about Darksiders 2, yet... nothing about the MMO? There's a reason: the mmo is doing horrible.

And now it seems to be dead.

MMOs tend to give off information in spurts, not the usual drip feed. SWOTR went silent for nearly a year at one point. It's part of the development cycle. It's useless to hype a game that isn't coming out for years.

Considering that this thing has been in development for years, and we've still heard nothing, I don't buy that argument. We would have heard something about a new class, some new screenshots, anything.

As for wow: dropped down to 10.1 million? There's games that dream of having that many subscribers. We'll see how things do after the next expansion.

Moopy wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Moopy wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

WoW has been circling the drain for a while now. Also how is a game we haven't even played, let alone seen finished gameplay of, guaranteed to be a failure?

There's no proof in your statement about WoW. Your personal opinion? Ok, but no proof.

As for the 40kMMO, yea, this thing has been dead for a long time. How do we know this? NO MARKETING, no new screenshots, no interviews, no news of any kind about it since their HUGE splash at E3. Game companies advertise their projects to keep up interest. Notice how Vigil (makers to the 40k mmo) is putting out lots of new information about Darksiders 2, yet... nothing about the MMO? There's a reason: the mmo is doing horrible.

And now it seems to be dead.

MMOs tend to give off information in spurts, not the usual drip feed. SWOTR went silent for nearly a year at one point. It's part of the development cycle. It's useless to hype a game that isn't coming out for years.

Considering that this thing has been in development for years, and we've still heard nothing, I don't buy that argument. We would have heard something about a new class, some new screenshots, anything.

As for wow: dropped down to 10.1 million? There's games that dream of having that many subscribers. We'll see how things do after the next expansion.

We've heard plenty. It wasn't supposed to come out for two more years.

English Assassin wrote:Bah, there goes my excuse for quitting EVE. Now how am I going to avoid spending the next few months shooting structures?

xcasex wrote:Back to EVE it is. /Istvaan

Good

I love that my take away from this is that I'm obviously not the only person who thought Homefront was a bit average.

Oh god, I hope Dawn of War 3 is safe. :/ I REALLY want Relic to continue making games under the 40k IP. I love them!

RatBot wrote:

Lorek wrote:

Sucks for everyone waiting for the 40K MMO, but I think it's good for the hobby in the long run; gamers will spend more time at the table and less at the PC.

I've never heard of anyone spending less time playing 40K because of Dawn of War/Space Marine, and conversely, I've never met anyone who picked up the tabletop game because of the video games.

Nice to meet you, I picked up 40k because of Dawn of war Winter Assault.

I know no one wants EA near this deal, but they make the most sense. Especially if their fantasy license would then allow them to use Relic to pump out both DoW games and a fantasy variant. If they go that far, why not grab Vigil and get Darksiders and the 40k MMO. Of course that depends on how THQ would structure the sale and how much it would cost EA.

EA would probably snap up the entire carcass of THQ to get UFC (and spite Dana White) and wrestling as well for EA Sports.

Yeah, I'd just like to add that I got into 40k because of Dawn of War.

Hexol wrote:I know no one wants EA near this deal, but they make the most sense. .

Because Warhammer Online did wonderfully under EA

I owned Dawn of War long before I owned any tabletop, and it is the reason both my friend and I begin playing 40k. (Oddly enough, in DC, he played orks/eldar and I played IG/SM. I now own a large SM and IG army, he owns orks and is thinking of eldar).

kenshin620 wrote:

Hexol wrote:I know no one wants EA near this deal, but they make the most sense. .

Because Warhammer Online did wonderfully under EA

It was more of Mythic's fault. I was in the Closed Beta for it, and they rarely if ever listened to the things we pointed out were bad. Most of the testing was done for the lower tiers, and only at the end of the beta did we test Tier 4. This is why the tier 1 and tier 2 were so good, we refined those experiences very well.Tier 4 was the problematic part of the game, there was barely any balance.

Would EA want another Sci-fi MMO?

EA killed the Command and Conquer franchise. They wouldn't do anything good to Dawn of War on Origin.

They killed Maxis and Westwood and they're trying hard to kill Bioware (and succeeding). Nothing good could come of an acquisition.

This would be a shame if true... I have enjoyed a great many THQ games in my time...

Aye, I've had a fair few THQ games over the years.

Oddly there is one franchise THQ owns I'd like EA to get if this was accurate, as in general they do sports games better than anyone else, and thats the WWE license.

Moopy wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

WoW has been circling the drain for a while now. Also how is a game we haven't even played, let alone seen finished gameplay of, guaranteed to be a failure?

There's no proof in your statement about WoW. Your personal opinion? Ok, but no proof.

As for the 40kMMO, yea, this thing has been dead for a long time. How do we know this? NO MARKETING, no new screenshots, no interviews, no news of any kind about it since their HUGE splash at E3. Game companies advertise their projects to keep up interest. Notice how Vigil (makers to the 40k mmo) is putting out lots of new information about Darksiders 2, yet... nothing about the MMO? There's a reason: the mmo is doing horrible.

And now it seems to be dead.

Proof is in AresX8's post, as you saw.

They've been marketing Darksiders 2 more because it's the next big thing from their company. They have a marketing department with finite resources, and they're going to market the one that's closer to actually coming out.

That's sad. The 40KMMO was the one I wanted to try.

AresX8 wrote:

Moopy wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

WoW has been circling the drain for a while now. Also how is a game we haven't even played, let alone seen finished gameplay of, guaranteed to be a failure?

There's no proof in your statement about WoW. Your personal opinion? Ok, but no proof.

...

There is, actually.

http://kotaku.com/5800175/world-of-warcraft-suffers-post+cataclysmic-drop-in-subscriptions

http://pc.ign.com/articles/118/1186203p1.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Q3-2011-Mike-Morhaime-China-Pandaria-GAAP,13934.html

I'm sure pretty much every other MMO would love to be "circling the drain" at 10 million subscribers after losing 1 million. There is a difference between no longer growing and failing.

ShatteredBlade wrote:

RatBot wrote:

Lorek wrote:

Sucks for everyone waiting for the 40K MMO, but I think it's good for the hobby in the long run; gamers will spend more time at the table and less at the PC.

I've never heard of anyone spending less time playing 40K because of Dawn of War/Space Marine, and conversely, I've never met anyone who picked up the tabletop game because of the video games.

Nice to meet you, I picked up 40k because of Dawn of war Winter Assault.

Well, now I have.

AresX8 wrote:

kenshin620 wrote:

Hexol wrote:I know no one wants EA near this deal, but they make the most sense. .

Because Warhammer Online did wonderfully under EA

It was more of Mythic's fault. I was in the Closed Beta for it, and they rarely if ever listened to the things we pointed out were bad. Most of the testing was done for the lower tiers, and only at the end of the beta did we test Tier 4. This is why the tier 1 and tier 2 were so good, we refined those experiences very well.Tier 4 was the problematic part of the game, there was barely any balance.

Not to mention the crafting being shoehorned in at the end. If I remember correctly that wasn't even implemented until a few weeks before ship date. It was the low level of polish on all of that higher tier gameplay that led me to not purchase my preorder.

In any case I will be very sad to THQ go if this is true. I have been playing Relic RTS games since their first Homeworld, all of the Dawn of War games, the Company of Heroes franchise and had a hell of a good time with the newer offerings like Darksiders and Space Marines. I had been looking forward to seeing the same PAULDRONS quality of Darksiders in the art direction of Dark millennium Hopefully someone will make some use of both Relic and Vigil even if not on anything GW related.

Heres hoping this is false or overblown.

Relic is owned by THQ but all THQ does is publish the games - Relic will live on regardless, it's just a mystery over what publisher buys them up if this is all true. Personally I'm hoping it's not because I generally like the IPs THQ pushes, and they aren't as evil as Activision.

RatBot wrote:

Lorek wrote:

Sucks for everyone waiting for the 40K MMO, but I think it's good for the hobby in the long run; gamers will spend more time at the table and less at the PC.

I've never heard of anyone spending less time playing 40K because of Dawn of War/Space Marine, and conversely, I've never met anyone who picked up the tabletop game because of the video games.

I did

They've posted another article from THQ saying its not cancelled on kotaku.com.

http://kotaku.com/5876348/thq-says-it-has-not-cancelled-its-2014-lineup

I have friends at Relic who are helping work on DMO, and they seem to think everything is still go on the mmo.

warboss wrote:They've posted another article from THQ saying its not cancelled on kotaku.com.

http://kotaku.com/5876348/thq-says-it-has-not-cancelled-its-2014-lineup

Baller.

Can't...... Not...... Possable.....

NOOOOOOOOOO!

Ok i don't care, and anyway, if it doen't happen, I can still play DOW2.

Brother SRM wrote:Relic is owned by THQ but all THQ does is publish the games - Relic will live on regardless, it's just a mystery over what publisher buys them up if this is all true. Personally I'm hoping it's not because I generally like the IPs THQ pushes, and they aren't as evil as Activision.

Activision is evil?

Rumours are false THQ has made a statment.

"THQ has not cancelled its 2014 line-up, and has not made any decisions regarding the planned MMO.
As part of the ongoing review of our business, we have made decisions to ensure that the company is strategically addressing the most attractive markets.
As we have previously announced, we have dramatically reduced our commitment to the kids' boxed games sector which leads to a significantly more focused release schedule moving forward.
Our slate for calendar 2012 and beyond is focused on high-quality core games and continues to build our digital platform and business.
We are excited for our pipeline of original and high-quality content along with our relationships with some of the best talent in the industry."

so there you go

Bob Kotic is a cancer on the industry, and thus Activition is evil. So yes.

warboss wrote:They've posted another article from THQ saying its not cancelled on kotaku.com.

http://kotaku.com/5876348/thq-says-it-has-not-cancelled-its-2014-lineup

Makes sense. There were too many things that didn't make sense in this story.

lord marcus wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:Relic is owned by THQ but all THQ does is publish the games - Relic will live on regardless, it's just a mystery over what publisher buys them up if this is all true. Personally I'm hoping it's not because I generally like the IPs THQ pushes, and they aren't as evil as Activision.

Activision is evil?

Just Bobby Kotick.

RatBot wrote:conversely, I've never met anyone who picked up the tabletop game because of the video games.

I picked up the tabletop game after playing Dawn of War.

Guys, you do realize that Kotaku is journalism, not news. The difference between the two is very fine, but yes. How one tweet gets turned into "THQ is selling its soul" I may never know.

N10do64 wrote:Guys, you do realize that Kotaku is journalism, not news. The difference between the two is very fine, but yes. How one tweet gets turned into "THQ is selling its soul" I may never know.

What is the difference, in a modern setting between a bunch of people giving their opinions on world views [or the opinions of their higher ups] and people giving their opinion on world views?

Oh wait.

Ouze wrote:

RatBot wrote:conversely, I've never met anyone who picked up the tabletop game because of the video games.

I picked up the tabletop game after playing Dawn of War.

Now you have.

I played 40k after I played DoW.

RatBot wrote:

Lorek wrote:

Sucks for everyone waiting for the 40K MMO, but I think it's good for the hobby in the long run; gamers will spend more time at the table and less at the PC.

I've never heard of anyone spending less time playing 40K because of Dawn of War/Space Marine, and conversely, I've never met anyone who picked up the tabletop game because of the video games.

I picked up the tabletop game because of the DoW games and the Ghaunts Ghosts novels

N10do64 wrote:Guys, you do realize that Kotaku is journalism, not news. The difference between the two is very fine, but yes. How one tweet gets turned into "THQ is selling its soul" I may never know.

Actually wrong on that count. They are a website similar to Celebrity fix or other trash websites, publishing sensationalist nonsense and pushing forward stupid opinions.
A real journalistic gaming website would be Rock Paper Shotgun. Kotaku is just Gawker rubbish, publishing controversial headlines to get views.

I'm failing to see how that differs from most News.

Scipio Africanus wrote:

Ouze wrote:

RatBot wrote:conversely, I've never met anyone who picked up the tabletop game because of the video games.

I picked up the tabletop game after playing Dawn of War.

Now you have.

I played 40k after I played DoW.

DoW introduced me to the franchise, books fostered my interest, and eventually jumped in two years ago. So... I guess by extention DoW got me into it as well.

n0t_u wrote:I'm failing to see how that differs from most News.

He called them a journalistic website, they are not. They are a worthless news site, that's only popular because of sensationalist rubbish.
Thats the difference good sir .

Since this was false shouldn't the thread be closed?

Hehe

http://kotaku.com/5876348/thq-says-it-has-not-cancelled-its-2014-lineup

double reply.

It's disappointing, because I like Homefront. I'm playing the multiplayer on ONLIVE and it's pretty good! It's not CALL OF DUTY but it's very good!

poipo32 wrote:Since this was false shouldn't the thread be closed?

I was hoping to see a few more people for whom the 40K related video games introduced them to the tabletop game before the lock.

Yup, DoW got my friend into it too, as well as fueling my own interest.

Two for one there Ouze.

AresX8 wrote:

Moopy wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

WoW has been circling the drain for a while now. Also how is a game we haven't even played, let alone seen finished gameplay of, guaranteed to be a failure?

There's no proof in your statement about WoW. Your personal opinion? Ok, but no proof.

...

There is, actually.

http://kotaku.com/5800175/world-of-warcraft-suffers-post+cataclysmic-drop-in-subscriptions

http://pc.ign.com/articles/118/1186203p1.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Q3-2011-Mike-Morhaime-China-Pandaria-GAAP,13934.html

Math says thats a 5% drop. I wouldnt trust a website that dwells on the numbers instead of % , especially for a giant company such as Blizzard

THQ admits that they have "not made any decisions regarding the planned MMO". This is considerably less than "We are still willing to do this" but more than "We cancelled the MMO". So the thread has its merit.

Ouze wrote:

poipo32 wrote:Since this was false shouldn't the thread be closed?

I was hoping to see a few more people for whom the 40K related video games introduced them to the tabletop game before the lock.

On the off chance you were serious: hi RatBot.

AresX8 wrote:

Moopy wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

WoW has been circling the drain for a while now. Also how is a game we haven't even played, let alone seen finished gameplay of, guaranteed to be a failure?

There's no proof in your statement about WoW. Your personal opinion? Ok, but no proof.

...

There is, actually.

http://kotaku.com/5800175/world-of-warcraft-suffers-post+cataclysmic-drop-in-subscriptions

http://pc.ign.com/articles/118/1186203p1.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Q3-2011-Mike-Morhaime-China-Pandaria-GAAP,13934.html

Losing 2 million chinese subscriptions and being lower on the total account end while still above 10mil = not circling the drain.

Kroothawk wrote:THQ admits that they have "not made any decisions regarding the planned MMO". This is considerably less than "We are still willing to do this" but more than "We cancelled the MMO". So the thread has its merit.

At the very least, I'll report the thread to have a mod (or the OP, if (s)he see's it first) to add a ? to the title.

DarkHound wrote:On the off chance you were serious: hi RatBot.

I was totes serious. I think rather a lot of people got into the tabletop game from playing the video games first. Just my anecdotal evidence though.

On topic, the loss (if it happens) of this game is crushing to me. I was really excited about it despite having sworn off muhmorpergers right after my extended stay in Norrath.

I was interested in 40k before playing the games, buy buying Dark Crusade is finally what got me to start buying a Tau army.

THQ was at a low of $2 when every other company was low too in August.
Space Marine came out did good,thier quarterly came out saying they lost money compare to last year(everyone did)
But they made 500 million more than they were expecting.
Stocck went up to $2.30
They hit a tripped over a hurdle with Udraw for the Xbox/PS3
It was a major dud,everyone freaked stock is at 60 cents.
This clown wrote the article,guessing they will be took over.
Me however would wait until the Christmas Quarterlies come out in Feb.
I think St.Row and WWE did good enough to surprise everyone.
But THQ's statement makes sense regarding this as they are now only going to make the games they do well.

I started playing 40k because of dawn of war.

Actually, I remember when I started reading this forum there was much talk about DoW and how it got people into it.

RatBot wrote:

Lorek wrote:

Sucks for everyone waiting for the 40K MMO, but I think it's good for the hobby in the long run; gamers will spend more time at the table and less at the PC.

I've never heard of anyone spending less time playing 40K because of Dawn of War/Space Marine, and conversely, I've never met anyone who picked up the tabletop game because of the video games.

For what it's worth I have, the group I played with in Beijing all got into it thanks to Dawn of War.

Dawn of War 1 rekindled 40k for me.
I was into it back in RT days but back then it was just this wierd UK game with really cool pics in the rulebook.
Dawn of War got me to start reading the novels again,now I am bitching because I have 10 Leman Russes and no accessory sprues.

I dont buy it, the statement from THQ looks pretty genuine.


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I also started playing 40k because of dawn of war. Admittedly the original.

Ouze wrote:

RatBot wrote:conversely, I've never met anyone who picked up the tabletop game because of the video games.

I picked up the tabletop game after playing Dawn of War.

me and my two brothers and 4 friends did!

English Assassin wrote:Bah, there goes my excuse for quitting EVE. Now how am I going to avoid spending the next few months shooting structures?

xcasex wrote:Back to EVE it is. /Istvaan

Stoffer wrote:Good

Ah well, see you all in Branch.

Just dropping into this thread to say that while I started playing years and years ago DoW took me out of remission and back into full-blown 40k-holism.

Well I hope it's not cancelled. Ross Watson, of Fantasy Flight Games and 40k RPG fame just went to go work on it...

Ha ha, all right, I completely concede the point. To be fair, I said I had never met anyone who started cuz of DoW, never said no one did.


Now, can anyone refute my refutation of the statement that people will play the tabletop game less if the MMO is available, based on people voluntarily giving up the tabletop game for DoW? (or don't, I really don't care. )

I actually hope it really is canceled and dead, cuz if it comes out it'll be no-life-cuz-of-wow for me all over again. Next thing I know it'll be 3 years and 100 pounds later...

Please update the OP, or lock/delete this thread.

RatBot wrote:Ha ha, all right, I completely concede the point. To be fair, I said I had never met anyone who started cuz of DoW, never said no one did.


Now, can anyone refute my refutation of the statement that people will play the tabletop game less if the MMO is available, based on people voluntarily giving up the tabletop game for DoW? (or don't, I really don't care. )

I can never play as much as i want to so no it wouldn't impact on my playtime of real 40k.

And as for painting and modelling. I only feel the urge to do either of those sporadically throughout the year so it wouldn't effect those spurts of enthusiasm.

So there. Refuted.

RatBot wrote:Ha ha, all right, I completely concede the point. To be fair, I said I had never met anyone who started cuz of DoW, never said no one did.


Now, can anyone refute my refutation of the statement that people will play the tabletop game less if the MMO is available, based on people voluntarily giving up the tabletop game for DoW? (or don't, I really don't care. )

I agree with the latter sentiment, though I think I'd clarify it by saying any successful MMO will steal mindshare and free time from any tabletop game. Both activities are targeting the same demographics and there are only so many hours in a day. I don't think a 40K MMO would specifically hurt the 40K tabletop by virtue of shared subject matter any more than a black library book steals playtime from players.

< Taken by the void dragon. >

THQ suffers from not having a "guaranteed hit" game. No Halo, Gears of War, Modern Warfare, Madden, etc. They put out solid games, but nothing that has people waiting outside a Gamespot for a midnight release. Big shame because I always felt Relic was able to nail the feel of the 40k universe.

For the sake of my marriage, I hope it is cancelled.

Lol, i love how this blows in the face of every economic guru out there stating that GW was smart by letting sales drop and live off the sweet royalties, there are always morons out there trying to reinvent the wheel...

Che-Vito wrote:

RatBot wrote:

Lorek wrote:

Sucks for everyone waiting for the 40K MMO, but I think it's good for the hobby in the long run; gamers will spend more time at the table and less at the PC.

I've never heard of anyone spending less time playing 40K because of Dawn of War/Space Marine, and conversely, I've never met anyone who picked up the tabletop game because of the video games.

A good buddy of mine did pick up the tabletop game because of DoW, but I'll also admit that he's the exception rather than the rule.

Actually, I know many people who got into it through the game. Including me. I had been considering it for a while, then when DoW1 was released, I bought that, and that clinched the deal.

silent25 wrote:THQ suffers from not having a "guaranteed hit" game. No Halo, Gears of War, Modern Warfare, Madden, etc. They put out solid games, but nothing that has people waiting outside a Gamespot for a midnight release. Big shame because I always felt Relic was able to nail the feel of the 40k universe.

Nor does Ubisoft, THQ have a lot of games that suck but many solid companies under their belt. Halo is also a bad example as thats published by Microsoft who are know for publishing some pretty crap games.

Anyway THQ have said the following

THQ has not cancelled its 2014 line-up, and has not made any decisions regarding the planned MMO. As part of the ongoing review of our business, we have made decisions to ensure that the company is strategically addressing the most attractive markets. As we have previously announced, we have dramatically reduced our commitment to the kids' boxed games sector which leads to a significantly more focused release schedule moving forward. Our slate for calendar 2012 and beyond is focused on high-quality core games and continues to build our digital platform and business. We are excited for our pipeline of original and high-quality content along with our relationships with some of the best talent in the industry.

Additionally, we are thrilled with the great performance of Saints Row: The Third, which on a like for like period in North America has tripled in sell-through from Saints Row 2. In addition, WWE ’12’s worldwide sell-through sales are up almost 40% year-over-year for the same sales period with fewer platforms. According to NPD, for the month of December and the 2011 year, THQ was the #5 publisher overall, #4 third party, with reported sell through growing over 18% in a market that was down almost 6%. And coming up next, we have two great titles for the first half of the year including UFC Undisputed 3 and Darksiders 2.

winnertakesall wrote:

Che-Vito wrote:

RatBot wrote:

Lorek wrote:

Sucks for everyone waiting for the 40K MMO, but I think it's good for the hobby in the long run; gamers will spend more time at the table and less at the PC.

I've never heard of anyone spending less time playing 40K because of Dawn of War/Space Marine, and conversely, I've never met anyone who picked up the tabletop game because of the video games.

A good buddy of mine did pick up the tabletop game because of DoW, but I'll also admit that he's the exception rather than the rule.

Actually, I know many people who got into it through the game. Including me. I had been considering it for a while, then when DoW1 was released, I bought that, and that clinched the deal.

Yeah, but then again, DOW 2 Sucked, dont know if it is enough bring the company under though.

Had nothing to do with the 40k IP
In reality it is one of the few releases people would wait in line for.
Space Marine saved THQs third quarter 2011.
This is mostly due to them misjudging the udraw.
Sold great for Wii but Wii is a totally different system.
Xbox and PS3 is all about gaming,no one wants to draw on an xbox they want Halo.
Thq put out a big discount to the udraw in november and then the stock tanked.
Truth will probally be they made more money off St.Row and WWE than they were expecting,enough to cover the udraw gaff,then stock will go back to $2

Daston wrote:

silent25 wrote:THQ suffers from not having a "guaranteed hit" game. No Halo, Gears of War, Modern Warfare, Madden, etc. They put out solid games, but nothing that has people waiting outside a Gamespot for a midnight release. Big shame because I always felt Relic was able to nail the feel of the 40k universe.

Nor does Ubisoft

Incorrect. Ubisoft has the Tom Clancy franchise to really "balance the books" for them. They release a ton of crap games, but the Tom Clancy games and their more "family oriented" games are generally profitable enough to cover the duds.

THQ have a lot of games that suck but many solid companies under their belt. Halo is also a bad example as thats published by Microsoft who are know for publishing some pretty crap games.

Halo is the perfect example actually. It's one of the first of the "killer apps", which is what silent25 is referring to in his post, which made really put console gaming on the map and pushed it towards being more mainstream.

Daston wrote:

silent25 wrote:THQ suffers from not having a "guaranteed hit" game. No Halo, Gears of War, Modern Warfare, Madden, etc. They put out solid games, but nothing that has people waiting outside a Gamespot for a midnight release. Big shame because I always felt Relic was able to nail the feel of the 40k universe.

Nor does Ubisoft, THQ have a lot of games that suck but many solid companies under their belt. Halo is also a bad example as thats published by Microsoft who are know for publishing some pretty crap games.

Doesn't Ubisoft have ASS-ASS-INS Credd

[Update] THQ's chief spokesperson has issued a statement denying the rumor that it has canceled its 2014 projects.

"THQ has not cancelled its 2014 line-up, and has not made any decisions regarding the planned MMO. As part of the ongoing review of our business, we have made decisions to ensure that the company is strategically addressing the most attractive markets. As we have previously announced, we have dramatically reduced our commitment to the kids' boxed games sector which leads to a significantly more focused release schedule moving forward. Our slate for calendar 2012 and beyond is focused on high-quality core games and continues to build our digital platform and business. We are excited for our pipeline of original and high-quality content along with our relationships with some of the best talent in the industry."

So since this is revealed as a hoax can we just close the thread?