Wikipedia plans to shut down its online encyclopaedia for 24 hours on Wednesday in protest against the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA.)
"Student warning, do your homework early, Wikipedia protesting bad law on Wednesday!" posted site co-founder Jimmy Wales in a Tweet on Tuesday.
The SOPA anti-piracy bill, currently being debated by the US House of Representatives, and the PROTECTIP (PIPA) Act, proposing to tackle online piracy by “foreign rogue websites” that are hosted outside of the United States, creating a series of measures aimed at tightening up control over the internet.
Many companies are against the bill arguing that freedom of speech will be seriously affected by internet censorship and that a number of the opposed measures, which include giving ISPs the ability to block access to foreign websites, are an abuse of power.
"This is an extraordinary action for our community to take - and while we regret having to prevent the world from having access to Wikipedia for even a second, we simply cannot ignore the fact that SOPA and PIPA endanger free speech both in the United States and abroad, and set a frightening precedent of Internet censorship for the world," Wikipedia said in statement released today.
I was going to be annoyed with the downtime, then I realised I could just stop the page from loading before it redirected me. Hah, interrupt my browsing will you?!
The Dreadnote wrote:I was going to be annoyed with the downtime, then I realised I could just stop the page from loading before it redirected me. Hah, interrupt my browsing will you?!
I was quickly hitting ctrl+c and then pasting the pages into word documents... can't believe I was so stupid as to not realise I could just do that
Although since I am researching the Suez Crisis for a presentation atm, it's easy enough to just load the French page and run it through google translate.
Henners91 wrote:
Although since I am researching the Suez Crisis for a presentation atm, it's easy enough to just load the French page and run it through google translate.
If you don't speak French, that's not a good idea.
Nor is using Wikipedia as anything other than an initial source.
Henners91 wrote:
Although since I am researching the Suez Crisis for a presentation atm, it's easy enough to just load the French page and run it through google translate.
If you don't speak French, that's not a good idea.
Nor is using Wikipedia as anything other than an initial source.
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Plus I am basing it mostly on an essay I already wrote, but said essay was on the aftermath so I needed to get more to grips with the event itself.
If I ever dare to use Wikipedia for actual essay work, I just go check out the citations.
I'm currently in the middle of trying to clear out a Win 7 Home Security 2012 rogue malware program on a customers PC. So far it's taken me around an hour. This has been taken up with getting onto the PC, running AVG and it not finding anything, looking it up on the web, downloading and uploading some app killers like rkill and downloading and uploading Malwarebytes, Malwarebytes is now in the middle of running a scan. If this fails to fix it I will have to get the PC back and get it wiped.
I think you will find Mr / Mrs / Ms politician that this costs businesses more sodding money in time and shipping than somebody downloading and watching a CAM quality copy of the latest movie. My bloody numbers will be based on actual factual evidence rather than assuming that every downloaded copy of said CAM movie is a lost cinema ticket sale.
These bloody politicians should wake up and realise that they are being used.
Malwarebytes has picked up on some stuff so wait for the scan to finish, but my point is that this is costing us as a company, real money due to the time taken to get this sorted. It's not the same as some supposed £8 cinema ticket lost sale.
My point is the politicians and governments of this planet should be chase the buggers who put this sort of stuff out there, not somebody who may or may not go to the cinema after downloading a CAM movie.
Chicago today had a segement yesterday and they sounded like had no prior experience to the internet.
Why isn't the government allowing internet business's sending in their representives? Where are they getting billions of dollars are lost from piracy. Are you sure thats not someone in their company who is stealing that money? Or is it random numbers that can't be proven.
I know piracy is bad. But seriously reread your laws mate.
Photobucket can be taken down by SOPA if it passes.
If a single copyright holder says photobucket violates its rights-- without actually proving that it does in a court of law I should note, and without contacting photobucket, and without contacting the user that uploaded the image-- then bam, no more photobucket.
As I said, this is a piece gak law pushed by pieces of gak in congress because piece of gak corporations and their piece of gak executives want to cut down competition and dominate the market flooding it with their pieces of gak and rubbing their gak all over your face. And I don't even have to exaggerate anything to say that.
But but but... without wikipedia for a day how will the American educational system survive!? ROFL
Hope Congress gets the message in regards to net neutrality. SOPA/PIPA is what, Congress 3rd/4th attempt in the past year to censor or moderate the web?
There are a lot of companies that are opposed to innovation and new technology because it would force them to change their business models. Therefor they throw money at congress instead, effectively asking for handouts and subsidies in the form of being legally allowed to make anti-competitive actions.
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biccat wrote:At first I was against SOPA.
After reading the bill I'm not so sure it's really that bad.
So being able to force a site to shut down, without having to contact the site which hosts the supposed copyright infringement (which doesn't have to be proved), without having to contact the user who posted the supposed copyright infringement (which I repeat doesn't have to be proved) is okay to you? A law which basically enforces guilty until proven innocent-- forcing sites to prove their innocence before he court of law-- is okay to you?
Games Workshop could use SOPA/PIPA to take down Dakka as Dakka is right now. They could also take down Bell of Lost Souls, From the Warp, Goatboy's blog, Hog of War, Heresy Online, Bolter and Chainsword, Warseer, Lexicanum, 40k Wikia, Wikipedia, and plenty of other websites by using the "vigilante provision". SOPA is an anti-competitive law to the extreme.
Melissia wrote:Games Workshop could use SOPA/PIPA to take down Dakka as Dakka is right now. They could also take down Bell of Lost Souls, From the Warp, Goatboy's blog, Hog of War, Heresy Online, Bolter and Chainsword, Warseer, Lexicanum, 40k Wikia, Wikipedia, and plenty of other websites by using the "vigilante provision". SOPA is an anti-competitive law to the extreme.
It's not just Games Workshop that could take Dakka down. Most Youtube videos shown are copyright infringement, and linking to a site that has any copyright infringement will get you taken down.
So, if you have a single link to Twitter or Facebook or Youtube or Photobucket or any one of a billion different sites, your site gets wiped.
If SOPA or PIPA pass, I intend on posting as much copyrighted content on websites public websites owned by corporations that supported the bill as possible.
1. Post Anti-SOPA status on FB.
2. Wake up to an inbox full of accusations of piracy and "I hate your kind" ranting.
3. ???
4. Good lord, people are stupid.
It seems like the only people who have a clue what the bill is about are the people against it. Irony at its finest.
After reading the bill I'm not so sure it's really that bad.
So being able to force a site to shut down, without having to contact the site which hosts the supposed copyright infringement (which doesn't have to be proved), without having to contact the user who posted the supposed copyright infringement (which I repeat doesn't have to be proved) is okay to you? A law which basically enforces guilty until proven innocent-- forcing sites to prove their innocence before he court of law-- is okay to you?
The only way a site could be "shut down" is by action of the Attorney General. And only if "the site would, by reason of acts described in paragraph (1), be subject to seizure in the United States in an action brought by the Attorney General if such site were a domestic Internet site." (Acts described in paragraph 1 are access and use by US residents).
Once the AG determines that the website is a problem he can commence an action in personam (fulfilling the notice requirement) or in rem only if the owner/registrant is outside the US. Even if commenced in rem, the AG must send proper notice to the registrant.
After that, the case proceeds in court as normal.
Melissia wrote:Games Workshop could use SOPA/PIPA to take down Dakka as Dakka is right now. They could also take down Bell of Lost Souls, From the Warp, Goatboy's blog, Hog of War, Heresy Online, Bolter and Chainsword, Warseer, Lexicanum, 40k Wikia, Wikipedia, and plenty of other websites by using the "vigilante provision". SOPA is an anti-competitive law to the extreme.
No they couldn't. The private remedy under this act is only available for a site "dedicated to theft of U.S. Property." The site must be "primarily designed or operated for the purpose of [engaging in or facilitating copyright infringement]" or "is taking...deliberate actions to avoid confirming a high probability of [copyright infringement]" or "operates the U.S.-directed site with the object of promoting [copyright infringement]".
Dakka is well within the safe harbor here.
(1) DEDICATED TO THEFT OF U.S. PROPERTY- An ‘Internet site is dedicated to theft of U.S. property’ if--
(A) it is an Internet site, or a portion thereof, that is a U.S.-directed site and is used by users within the United States; and
(B) either--
(i) the U.S.-directed site is primarily designed or operated for the purpose of, has only limited purpose or use other than, or is marketed by its operator or another acting in concert with that operator for use in, offering goods or services in a manner that engages in, enables, or facilitates--
(I) a violation of section 501 of title 17, United States Code;
(II) a violation of section 1201 of title 17, United States Code; or
(III) the sale, distribution, or promotion of goods, services, or materials bearing a counterfeit mark, as that term is defined in section 34(d) of the Lanham Act or section 2320 of title 18, United States Code; or
(ii) the operator of the U.S.-directed site--
(I) is taking, or has taken, deliberate actions to avoid confirming a high probability of the use of the U.S.-directed site to carry out acts that constitute a violation of section 501 or 1201 of title 17, United States Code; or
(II) operates the U.S.-directed site with the object of promoting, or has promoted, its use to carry out acts that constitute a violation of section 501 or 1201 of title 17, United States Code, as shown by clear expression or other affirmative steps taken to foster infringement
How does the act prevent abuse? All an owner has to do, upon receiving notice, is submit a counter-notice. This counter-notice only requires your name, address, consent to US jurisdiction over the issue and a statement that your site is not "dedicated to theft of US property."
SOPA is the US reaching out to assume jurisdiction over a large swathes of the internet, but it's not as evil as it is being made out to be.
biccat has the only reasonable argument so far on SOPA on forums and such that I've seen.
If you read the bill (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h112-3261) there are many, many provisions that have to be met before sites can be blocked. Simply hosting a youtube video will not shut down the internet as people are claiming.
I think it's a stupid bill. If it's passed, I doubt it will be anything like the sky is falling scenarios going around, but it will still suck. It will mess up a lot of perfectly legit websites though, if anything because those site owners will panic, and all the while pirates will still pirate and nothing on that side of the fence will ever change.
In the end, it just feels like media companies trying to walk all over everyone.
If they really wanna protest it, I'd rather see sites like Google not working for or blocking links to anything on timewarner.com or whatever. With a little message saying we're blocking this content because we think these guys suck, even if it's just for 1 day.
What you've posted there sounds identical to what I thought the procedures for DMCA complaints were. Why do content providers need another piece of legislature that performs an identical function? Either you're wrong, or many large companies (with legal teams on standby) have mistakenly interpreted the bills to be more harmful than they are.
Also, your interpretation that
Dakka is well within the safe harbor here.
, while probably accurate, depends upon Dakka being able to survive, financially, a court case long enough for the judge to determine this, along with any appeals process necessary. I'm not a lawyer, but I'm somewhat aware of how much they cost. I do not believe that yak/lego are getting paid to run the site, so I doubt they have their own legal fund prepared to deal with such things. I mean, look at what happened with bloodbowl40k and the other sites that got shut down whenever that was (a year ago?). They didn't have money to fight it, so they folded.
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Necros wrote:I think it's a stupid bill. If it's passed, I doubt it will be anything like the sky is falling scenarios going around, but it will still suck.
Wait for trolls to start dropping copywritten material onto sites everywhere.
I'm picturing a particularly dystopic case where new attacks on websites switch from being centered around the goal being a DDOS or stealing data, but instead just try to slip IP in subtle enough places.
You guys need to do better research about the bill, honestly.
What it comes down to is this - does your website have the ability to link to other sites? Yeah? You can be seen as a site that "CAN" harbor piracy, and you instantly become a felon according to the bill.
The issue many of you pro-SOPA bill people assume is that the people in power, politicians, media moguls, etc, have the moral fortitude to ALWAYS do what is best for YOUR interest, you are out of your mind, or you must live in a different dimension.
Keep on assuming that those in power care about you in any form, and will use this bill to combat the guy who copies Skyrim and torrents it, and never the guy who links to a youtube landing page with a song on it.
daedalus wrote:What you've posted there sounds identical to what I thought the procedures for DMCA complaints were. Why do content providers need another piece of legislature that performs an identical function? Either you're wrong, or many large companies (with legal teams on standby) have mistakenly interpreted the bills to be more harmful than they are.
I've done DMCA notice and takedown requests, so hopefully that lends some credibility to my comments.
When you send a DMCA letter it is sent to the provider (that's actually hosting your website) informing them that someone on their host is infringing your copyrights. The host is then required to remove the infringing material under US law. However, if your provider/host is not physically located in the US (surprisingly less likely than you would think), then there is no authority under the DMCA.
Sites like The Pirate Bay (I assume) have an international host and so they aren't under the authority of the DMCA. This bill will provide two ways to combat piracy:
1) prohibit advertisers and payment providers (e.g. Visa, AMEX, etc.) located in the US from providing services to these sites; and
2) remove domain name registration from these sites (ICANN being under US jurisdiction).
The idea behind these two approaches is that organizations pirating material will no longer be able to receive financial gain and it will make the companies more difficult to access. Sure you'll still be able to access The Pirate Bay by it's IP address, but it will be more difficult. Plus, TPB will be less able to receive revenue from advertisers, donors, or purchasers of their content (assuming they sell subscriptions or something).
daedalus wrote:Also, your interpretation that
Dakka is well within the safe harbor here.
, while probably accurate, depends upon Dakka being able to survive, financially, a court case long enough for the judge to determine this, along with any appeals process necessary. I'm not a lawyer, but I'm somewhat aware of how much they cost. I do not believe that yak/lego are getting paid to run the site, so I doubt they have their own legal fund prepared to deal with such things. I mean, look at what happened with bloodbowl40k and the other sites that got shut down whenever that was (a year ago?). They didn't have money to fight it, so they folded.
That's what we in the industry call "ordinary business risk." There's always a risk that someone is going to sue you on some groundless claim that you'll have to defend. This bill doesn't make it any more or less likely that GW will come after Dakka. If they did, I'd be happy to lend my services pro bono to Yak and Lego to provide a counter notification.
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BuFFo wrote:you instantly become a felon according to the bill.
biccat wrote:
SOPA is the US reaching out to assume jurisdiction over a large swathes of the internet, but it's not as evil as it is being made out to be.
This is basically my opinion as well, but, you know, rhetoric has its uses.
biccat wrote:
I've done DMCA notice and takedown requests, so hopefully that lends some credibility to my comments.
When you send a DMCA letter it is sent to the provider (that's actually hosting your website) informing them that someone on their host is infringing your copyrights. The host is then required to remove the infringing material under US law. However, if your provider/host is not physically located in the US (surprisingly less likely than you would think), then there is no authority under the DMCA.
Sites like The Pirate Bay (I assume) have an international host and so they aren't under the authority of the DMCA. This bill will provide two ways to combat piracy:
1) prohibit advertisers and payment providers (e.g. Visa, AMEX, etc.) located in the US from providing services to these sites; and
2) remove domain name registration from these sites (ICANN being under US jurisdiction).
The idea behind these two approaches is that organizations pirating material will no longer be able to receive financial gain and it will make the companies more difficult to access. Sure you'll still be able to access The Pirate Bay by it's IP address, but it will be more difficult. Plus, TPB will be less able to receive revenue from advertisers, donors, or purchasers of their content (assuming they sell subscriptions or something).
This is really interesting. Thank you for posting the difference between the two. I wonder, then, if this is so benign and worry is overblown, why so many corporations, which surely have legal teams that have reviewed the bills, have risen up in protest of it. I mean, Google, sure, I understand. It increases the amount of overhead they have to cope with. But Valve? Razer Gaming?
From a technical standpoint then, since ICANN is the global manager of domain names, and most DNS servers eventually fall back to root DNS servers that use the list based upon ICANN, a concern becomes that the US is impacting "businesses" that operate and exist outside of the US boundaries in the name of preventing something that is technically quite legal in their country. That rubs me the wrong way, and I'm American.
LoneLictor wrote:Have you contacted your Senators to help fight PIPA? I have, and you should to. As a citizen, it's your duty! ONLY YOU CAN SAVE THE INTERNET!
There's no reason to stop at contacting your representatives. Duplicity has a storied history in American politics.
daedalus wrote:This is really interesting. Thank you for posting the difference between the two. I wonder, then, if this is so benign and worry is overblown, why so many corporations, which surely have legal teams that have reviewed the bills, have risen up in protest of it. I mean, Google, sure, I understand. It increases the amount of overhead they have to cope with. But Valve? Razer Gaming?
This pretty much explains it:
dogma wrote:rhetoric has its uses
Also, if you've got good enough copy protection you don't need to worry about pirates. In fact, it might be nice to have pirates drive your competitors out of business.
daedalus wrote:From a technical standpoint then, since ICANN is the global manager of domain names, and most DNS servers eventually fall back to root DNS servers that use the list based upon ICANN, a concern becomes that the US is impacting "businesses" that operate and exist outside of the US boundaries in the name of preventing something that is technically quite legal in their country. That rubs me the wrong way, and I'm American.
The response to this would be that any company that operates and exists outside of the US boundaries should not attempt to extend their business into the United States if those activities are illegal here. That's why the act requires "the Internet site or portion thereof is a U.S.-directed site and is used by users in the United States."
Hypothetically: just because recasting is legal in China doesn't give you the right to import your materials into the United States where it is illegal.* * ignoring all of the legal issues of recasting and whether it's actually legal in China or the United States
biccat wrote:
Also, if you've got good enough copy protection you don't need to worry about pirates. In fact, it might be nice to have pirates drive your competitors out of business.
One thing that has many industry people worried is that copy protection doesn't necessarily decrease the incidence of piracy. The argument being that intrusive copy protection decreases sales, but not necessarily then number of people playing your game. This is part of why SOPA and PIPA exist, but also why most games are requiring internet access to play despite not being multiplayer titles.
dogma wrote:The argument being that intrusive copy protection decreases sales, but not necessarily then number of people playing your game. This is part of why SOPA and PIPA exist, but also why most games are requiring internet access to play despite not being multiplayer titles.
This was actually the final nail in the coffin for my PC gaming days.
Grakmar wrote:
I direct you to section 201a of the bill. That's the part that specifically deals in criminal charges.
And, yes, this will make most internet users felons.
No it doesn't.
It does, however, present many problems for Youtube's partner program, which explains why so many of said partners (and Youtube itself) are against the bill.
biccat wrote:The only way a site could be "shut down" is by action of the Attorney General.
False. All they have to do is bully the ISPs in question to stop linking to the site by threatening them with a lawsuit if they do not add certain sites to a blacklist.
biccat wrote:Dakka is well within the safe harbor here.\
Melissia wrote:False. All they have to do is bully the ISPs in question to stop linking to the site by threatening them with a lawsuit if they do not add certain sites to a blacklist.
They can do that now, more or less, via cease and desist.
BuFFo wrote:you instantly become a felon according to the bill.
This is just wrong. It's not a criminal statute.
I direct you to section 201a of the bill. That's the part that specifically deals in criminal charges.
And, yes, this will make most internet users felons.
Copyright infringement is already a crime in the United States.
I'll mark up the relevant statute for you:
‘(1) IN GENERAL- Any person who willfully infringes a copyright shall be punished as provided under section 2319 of title 18, if the infringement was committed--
‘(A) for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain;
‘(B) by the reproduction or distribution, including by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, or by the public performance by means of digital transmission, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail valuewhen the total retail value of the copies or phonorecords, or of the public performances, is more than $1,000; or
‘(C) by the distribution or public performance of a work being prepared for commercial dissemination, by making it available on a computer network accessible to members of the public, if such person knew or should have known that the work was intended for commercial dissemination.
‘(2) EVIDENCE- For purposes of this subsection, evidence of reproduction, or distribution, or public performance of a copyrighted work, by itself, shall not be sufficient to establish willful infringement of a copyright.
‘(3) DEFINITION- In this subsection, the term ‘work being prepared for commercial dissemination’ means--
‘(A) a computer program, a musical work, a motion picture or other audiovisual work, or a sound recording, if, at the time of unauthorized distribution or public performance--
‘(i)(I) the copyright owner has a reasonable expectation of commercial distribution; and
‘(II) the copies or phonorecords of the work have not been commercially distributed in the United States by or with the authorization of the copyright owner; or
‘(ii)(I) the copyright owner does not intend to offer copies of the work for commercial distribution but has a reasonable expectation of other forms of commercial dissemination of the work; and
‘(II) the work has not been commercially disseminated to the public in the United States by or with the authorization of the copyright owner;
‘(B) a motion picture, if, at the time of unauthorized distribution or public performance, the motion picture--
‘(i)(I) has been made available for viewing in a motion picture exhibition facility; and
‘(II) has not been made available in copies for sale to the general public in the United States by or with the authorization of the copyright owner in a format intended to permit viewing outside a motion picture exhibition facility; or
‘(ii) had not been commercially disseminated to the public in the United States in a format intended to permit viewing outside a motion picture exhibition facilityby or with the authorization of the copyright owner more than 24 hours before the unauthorized distribution or public performance.’
Melissia wrote:False. All they have to do is bully the ISPs in question to stop linking to the site by threatening them with a lawsuit if they do not add certain sites to a blacklist.
They can do that now, more or less, via cease and desist.
Yes, but this adds yet another weapon with which they can censor things they don't like.
Universal for example would have the ISPs block off seven of the top twelve hip-hop blogs and the website for a new up and coming hip hop lifestyle magazine. This is an actual plan they've made publically.
While there are many oddities on the list, we wanted to explore one aspect of the list, which is that it appears to show that Universal Music has decided to declare war on the online hip hop ecosystem that promotes its music in a big way -- and some of those sites are hitting back. First of all, it's worth noting that these blogs and sites are considered instrumental to promotion in the hip hop world, and Universal Music knows that. In talking to some of the folks at sites involved, you learn pretty quickly that they get sent tracks and other promotional info from insiders at Universal Music -- including high level execs -- all of the time. On top of that, hip hop artists themselves regularly rely on these same sites, and link people to them via their own blogs and twitter feeds. And yet, a whole bunch of these sites are on GroupM's list... and they got there because Universal Music told GroupM to put those sites on the list:
They classify these blogs, which are basically giving them free advertisement and saying "hey, this is great music, go buy it!", as piracy sites because these blogs are beyond their control. Therefor they don't like them. Even though they profit from the blogs' message.
It's not about piracy, it's just about control, they want to use these laws to control mass media mroe than they already do. They're even wanting to block soundcloud-- which is basically a site that lets artists promote their own music, IE free advertisement for the company's artists. Because it's beyond their control, and therefor the incompetent control freaks at the heads of those companies refuse to let it exist.
Melissia wrote:False. All they have to do is bully the ISPs in question to stop linking to the site by threatening them with a lawsuit if they do not add certain sites to a blacklist.
Find the authority for that in this law. Unless you're saying that the AG could threaten (baseless) prosecution without legal authority. If so, what's stopping them from doing this now?
Melissia wrote:This law does not respect safe harbor.
Please. This is pure hyperbole and has no basis in the law.
biccat wrote:Find the authority for that in this law.
Title 1, Sec 102, subsection C, part 5, immunity I believe. It's referred to as the vigilante provision, as it gives immunity to companies who proactively censor themselves at the behest of a company. Basically "do what I say or I'm going to put you in legal hell for years, even if you're innocent".
They've already tried to force youtube to take down videos by music artists made specifically to speak out against SOPA claiming they have copyright to them even though they don't. What makes you think that I would believe for an instant that these companies, whom have a long, colorful history of lying, cheating, and stealing to get a profit, would give one gak about first ammendment rights if this godawful legislation gets passed?
Melissia wrote: It's not about piracy, it's just about control, they want to use these laws to control mass media mroe than they already do.
Well, its about both. Its a provision by which they can control piracy, and the perception of their product.
Keep in mind, I think that neither bill should pass, but I also think the outcry is driven by worst case rhetoric.
Actually I think the worst case scenario is this is passed and the companies carefully and gradually pushes it as far as they can go over time so people get used to it.
You know, just like what they've been trying to do with the DMCA and other laws.
biccat wrote:Find the authority for that in this law.
Title 1, Sec 102, subsection C, part 5, immunity I believe. It's referred to as the vigilante provision, as it gives immunity to companies who proactively censor themselves at the behest of a company. Basically "do what I say or I'm going to put you in legal hell for years, even if you're innocent".
(B) IMMUNITY FROM LIABILITY- Other than in an action pursuant to paragraph (4)--
(i) any entity served with a copy of an order under this subsection, and any director, officer, employee, or agent thereof, shall not be liable for any act reasonably designed to comply with this subsection or reasonably arising from such order; and
(ii) any--
(I) actions taken by customers of such entity to circumvent any restriction on access to the foreign infringing site, or portion thereof, that is subject to such order, that is instituted pursuant to this subsection, or
(II) act, failure, or inability to restrict access to a foreign infringing site, or portion thereof, that is subject to such order, in spite of good faith efforts to comply with such order by such entity,
shall not be used by any person in any claim or cause of action against such entity.
The "order" referred to here is a court order. This section says that you're not liable (except for enforcement of that order) for following a court order.
Melissia wrote:They've already tried to force youtube to take down videos by music artists made specifically to speak out against SOPA claiming they have copyright to them even though they don't. What makes you think that I would believe for an instant that these companies, whom have a long, colorful history of lying, cheating, and stealing to get a profit, would give one gak about first ammendment rights if this godawful legislation gets passed?
I don't think you "would believe for an instant" anything other than the worst for any corporate actor.
However, I do think that the Attorney General wouldn't act at their behest.
Melissia wrote:Actually I think the worst case scenario is this is passed and the companies carefully and gradually pushes it as far as they can go over time so people get used to it.
You know, just like what they've been trying to do with the DMCA and other laws.
Which is pretty much what the rhetoric has centered on.
biccat wrote:Even my opinions are wrong? Interesting.
If someone said that in their opinion you were actually a transexual elephant with five breasts, green teeth, and a trunk that looked like a giant purple foot complete with toes, would you say that their opinion was wrong?
biccat wrote:You're not my wife posting under a secret screen name, are you?
Oh heavens no. If I was that, I'd be hitting below the belt cause I'd have more information to hit with
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dogma wrote:Which is pretty much what the rhetoric has centered on.
Dunno, I've seen some really out there rhetoric.
But saying "they've done it before, they'll do it again" is hardly an untenable position, I think.
biccat wrote:
The "order" referred to here is a court order. This section says that you're not liable (except for enforcement of that order) for following a court order.
Yep.
Melissia wrote:
But saying "they've done it before, they'll do it again" is hardly an untenable position, I think.
Its exceptionally tenable, which is why it has been effective.
But what people will be motivate by doesn't necessarily have bearing on whether or not it follows from reason.
... actually I was using "untenable" to specifically refer to a logically cogent position, in that an uncogent (I think that's how it's spelled?) position is untenable.
Melissia wrote:... actually I was using "untenable" to specifically refer to a logically cogent position, in that an uncogent (I think that's how it's spelled?) position is untenable.
You overstepped the limitations of what I consider to be a cogent argument.
For the most part, if you want to make a cogent, inductive argument you need to make certain that you're biasing it towards uncertainty.
What are they going to get some puke stained tents and camp outside...er the Hollywood sign or something. Maybe that body they found there was a warning to stay away from Hollywood?
Frazzled wrote:What are they going to get some puke stained tents and camp outside...er the Hollywood sign or something. Maybe that body they found there was a warning to stay away from Hollywood?
dogma wrote:[For the most part, if you want to make a cogent, inductive argument you need to make certain that you're biasing it towards uncertainty.
It has been a while since my logic classes, so you may be right here.
But it's certainly quite likely that they'll do it again in my eyes.
Also, from the Reddit explanation of the bill regarding the "facilitation" language:
The potential for abuse in this language is painfully obvious. "Facilitation" can often be argued as simply teaching or demonstrating how to do something. Under this definition, a site could be targeted for something as simple as describing how to rip a Blu-Ray. This language also makes it clear that the legislation is not solely targeting sites "dedicated to theft".
A large majority of the angel investors and venture capitalists who took part in a Booz & Company study say they will not put their money in digital content intermediaries (DCIs) if governments pass tough new rules allowing websites to be sued or fined for pirated digital content posted by users.
More than 70% of angel investors reported they would be deterred from investing if anti-piracy regulations against “user uploaded” websites were increased.
The notice-and-termination procedure of Section 103(a) runs afoul of the “prior restraint” doctrine, because it delegates to a private party the power to suppress speech without prior notice and a judicial hearing. This provision of the bill would give complaining parties the power to stop online advertisers and credit card processors from doing business with a website, merely by filing a unilateral notice accusing the site of being “dedicated to theft of U.S. property” – even if no court has actually found any infringement. he immunity provisions in the bill create an overwhelming incentive for advertisers and payment processors to comply with such a request immediately upon receipt. The Supreme Court has made clear that “only a judicial determination in an adversary proceeding ensures the necessary sensitivity to freedom of expression [and] only a procedure requiring a judicial determination suffices to impose a valid final restraint.” Freedman v. Maryland, 380 U.S. 51, 58 (1965). “[P]rior restraints on speech and publication are the most serious and the least tolerable infringement on First Amendment rights.” Nebraska Press Assn. v. Stuart, 427 U.S. 539, 559 (1976).
Section 103(a) is also constitutionally infirm because it contains a vague and sweeping definition of a website “dedicated to theft of U.S. property.” A site would qualify under the statutory definition if it “enables or facilitates” infringement by a third party, whether or not such activity meets the requirements for secondary liability under existing law. The deliberate departure from established concepts of copyright law deprives parties of adequate guidelines or criteria to interpret the Section 103 definition. Although statutory ambiguities may be tolerable in some situations, the First Amendment demands special precision in regulations of protected expression.
To compound the problem, SOPA provides that a complaining party can file a notice alleging that it is harmed by the activities occurring on the site “or portion thereof.” Conceivably, an entire website containing tens of thousands of pages could be targeted if only a single page were accused of infringement. Such an approach would create severe practical problems for sites with substantial user-generated content, such as Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, and for blogs that allow users to post videos, photos, and other materials.
The bill’s harmful impact is aggravated by the fact that the definition of websites “dedicated to theft of U.S. property” includes sites that take actions to “avoid confirming a high probability of … use” for infringement. Absence of knowledge of specific infringing acts would not be a defense. Thus, the definition would effectively require sites actively to police themselves to ensure that infringement does not occur. In effect, the bill would impose the very monitoring obligation that existing law (in the form of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998) expressly does not require. SOPA would undo the statutory framework that has created the foundation for many web-based businesses.
Faced with such pervasive uncertainties, many sites will predictably be chilled from engaging in fully protected and lawful speech, for fear that they will be accused of a SOPA violation and suffer a cutoff of revenue from online advertising or credit card payments for transactions. The threat of such a cutoff would deter Internet companies from adopting innovative approaches to hosting and linking to third party content and from exploring new kinds of communication. Such ex ante chilling effect could not be remedied by invalidating certain problematic applications of the statute ex post. The chill is inherent in the statute as drafted.
SOPA Section 103 is far too sweeping on its face to comply with the constitutional requirement of “narrow tailoring.” Although SOPA’s supporters have described the bill as directed at “foreign rogue websites,” the definitions in the bill are not in fact limited to foreign sites or to sites engaged in egregious piracy. SOPA will lead to the silencing of a vast swath of fully protected speech and to the shut-down of sites that have not themselves violated any copyright or trademark laws.
Another constitutionally infirm part of the bill is Section 102, which authorizes suits by the U.S. Attorney General against foreign websites or portions thereof that allegedly “facilitate” infringement. If the owner or operator cannot be located, the Attorney General may proceed on an “in rem” theory. In such cases, it appears highly unlikely that there would ever be an adversary hearing testing the merits of the government’s allegations. Even where the owner or operator of a foreign site is known, it seems doubtful that the government’s allegations would be tested, since foreign sites will often be unwilling to enter a U.S. court. In the meantime, the blacklist would deny the right of U.S. audiences to receive constitutionally protected information – at the very time our government criticizes other countries for denying their citizens access to websites that lack official approval.
I am aware that some First Amendment experts have supported SOPA, including my friend Floyd Abrams, who submitted a letter dated November 7, 2011, to Chairman Lamar Smith (R-TX) on behalf of the Motion Picture Association and other clients. However, I part company with Mr. Abrams on this issue. I believe his letter provides an excellent explanation of why existing law, including the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, is on the whole consistent with the First Amendment, but I do not believe his letter adequately analyzes or even meaningfully confronts the sweeping changes that SOPA would enact. Indeed, Mr. Abrams ultimately acknowledges that the remedies under SOPA may result in “the blockage of non-infringing or protected content.” (Letter of Nov. 7, 2011 from Floyd Abrams to Hon. Lamar Smith, at 12 (emphasis added).) He acknowledges that seizure powers under the copyright law must be exercised with “due regard to First Amendment considerations” (p. 4) and that “[t]he Internet is one of the greatest tools of freedom in the history of the world.” (p. 2) He also recognizes that “[i]t is a fundamental principle of First Amendment jurisprudence that government restrictions on speech should be narrowly tailored to avoid unnecessarily burdening protected speech.” (p. 10).
These concessions go to the heart of the constitutional defect evident on the face of SOPA. Although the problems of online copyright and trademark infringement are genuine, SOPA is an extreme measure that is not narrowly tailored to governmental interests. It is a blunderbuss rather than a properly limited response, and its stiff penalties would significantly endanger legitimate websites and services. Its constitutional defects are not marginal ones that could readily be trimmed in the process of applying and enforcing it in particular cases. Rather, its very existence would dramatically chill protected speech by undermining the openness and free exchange of information at the heart of the Internet. It should not be enacted by Congress.
Today, the 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) forms the basis of the legal framework that has made the U.S. Internet industry the most successful in the world. Under the DMCA, an Internet company that serves as a conduit for third-party communications is granted a statutory safe harbor from liability, so long as it creates a process to respond to a copyright owner’s notice about infringing content on the Internet company’s platform. 17 U.S.C. § 512(a), (c). The balance struck by the DMCA protects end users by making clear that Internet companies do not need to monitor their users’ activities in order to qualify for the safe harbor. It protects copyright owners by providing them a quick and efficient means of removing infringing content. It protects website operators and others posting content by targeting relief at infringing conduct.
SOPA departs from the existing legal framework in several dramatic and constitutionally fatal respects:
(1) Section 103 of the bill establishes a private right of action authorizing plaintiffs to seek remedies against both domestic and foreign websites that are “dedicated to theft of U.S. property.” The plaintiff may be anyone with an intellectual property right harmed by copyright or trademark infringement on the site; the plaintiff need not be the owner of the infringed copyright or trademark.
Under a notice-and-termination procedure, the plaintiff notifies an online advertiser or payment processor (such as a credit card processor) of an allegedly infringing site. The advertiser or payment processor must take action to cease providing service to that site within five days.
The bill also provides that the online advertiser or payment processor is required to alert the allegedly infringing site of the notice in “timely” fashion. The site is then permitted to send a counter-notice to the online advertiser or payment processor, but the bill does not require the advertiser or payment processor to restore service.
If the advertiser or payment processor chooses to restore service as requested in the counter-notice, then the plaintiff can sue the operator of a U.S. website under ordinary jurisdictional principles, or a foreign website under a new “in rem” theory of jurisdiction. If the court finds that the site is “dedicated to the theft of U.S. property” as defined by the statute, the court may issue injunctive relief. In addition, the court may issue an order that the plaintiff can then serve on online advertisers and payment processors, which must take technically feasible and reasonable measures to terminate service to the site within five days. An advertiser or processor that fails to comply with such an order is subject to monetary sanctions. Conversely, advertisers and payment processors that comply are afforded immunity from any future, collateral lawsuits that may be filed against them by terminated websites.
(2) Section 104 provides a broad grant of immunity to service providers, payment processors, online advertisers, search engines, domain registries, and domain name registrars for voluntarily terminating services, blocking financial transactions, or blocking access to Internet sites, so long the entity “reasonably” believes that the site in question is a “foreign infringing site” or a site “dedicated to theft of U.S. property,” and that the action taken is consistent with the terms of service or other contractual rights. Thus, SOPA encourages firms to shut down, block access to, and stop servicing U.S. and foreign websites based solely on an interested party’s unilateral allegation that they are illegal, in the absence of a judicial finding of infringement. There is no mechanism for restitution if a website’s property, business, or reputation has been wrongfully harmed – or, indeed, ruined – by an entity taking action pursuant to Section 104. In light of the immunity afforded by Section 104, service providers will have strong incentives to shut down websites or terminate relationships with sites merely accused of being “dedicated to theft of U.S. property.”
(3) Section 102 authorizes the Attorney General to sue a “foreign infringing site” either by name or (if the owner or operator cannot be located) under an “in rem” theory. The court is authorized to issue a cease-and-desist order, which can then be served on U.S. entities. U.S. service providers receiving such an order are required to “prevent access” by their U.S. subscribers to the foreign site, by preventing subscribers “from resolving to that domain name’s [IP] address.” Search engines must prevent the site from being served as a direct hypertext link. Payment processors must prevent payment transactions between the site and U.S. customers (or customers subject to U.S. jurisdiction). Online advertisers must prevent their networks from providing ads to the foreign website. Each of these entities is required to take “technically feasible and reasonable measures” to comply within five days of receiving the order.
Several provisions of SOPA violate the First Amendment, and these constitutional violations are inherent in the statute as drafted. The defects are not simply incidental or occasional imperfections created by unusual applications of the statute. Rather, the flaws arise from the fundamental structure of the bill.
(1) The notice-and-termination procedure of Section 103(a) poses grave dangers to protected speech. This provision of the bill would give copyright owners the power to stop online advertisers and credit card processors from doing business with a website, merely by filing a unilateral notice that the site is “dedicated to theft of U.S. property” – even if no court has actually found any infringement. The immunity provisions in the bill create an overwhelming incentive for advertisers and payment processors to comply with such a request immediately upon receipt.
(a) A procedure that delegates to a private party the power to suppress speech without prior notice and a judicial hearing violates the “prior restraint” doctrine. “[P]rior restraints on speech and publication are the most serious and the least tolerable infringement on First Amendment rights.” Nebraska Press Assn. v. Stuart, 427 U.S. 539, 559 (1976).
The Supreme Court has made clear that “only a judicial determination in an adversary proceeding ensures the necessary sensitivity to freedom of expression [and] only a procedure requiring a judicial determination suffices to impose a valid final restraint.” Freedman v. Maryland, 380 U.S. 51, 58 (1965). Thus, in Fort Wayne Books v. Indiana, 489 U.S. 46 (1989), the Court held that even a finding of probable cause by a state court was not sufficient to allow seizure of material “presumptively protected by the First Amendment,” because the state court’s ruling was merely preliminary. “While a single copy of a book or film may be seized and retained for evidentiary purposes based on a finding of probable cause, the publication may not be taken out of circulation completely until there has been a determination of obscenity after an adversary hearing.” Id. at 63; see also New York v. P.J. Video, Inc., 475 U.S. 868, 873 (1986) (“the large-scale seizure of books or films constituting a ‘prior restraint’ must be preceded by an adversary hearing”).
The prior restraint doctrine makes clear that a legislative scheme silencing speech before a court has ruled it to be legally unprotected is unconstitutional on its face. In Bantam Books, Inc. v. Sullivan, 372 U.S. 58 (1963), for example, the Supreme Court invalidated a procedure whereby the Rhode Island Commission to Encourage Morality in Youth sent informal notices to advise fifty-three book distributors that certain books and materials were deemed objectionable. The Supreme Court held that even such informal sanctions – sanctions that did not actually seize or ban any books – were impermissible prior restraints because they were undertaken without prior adjudications by the courts. The Court opined that official notices amounting to “coercion, persuasion, and intimidation” could chill the exercise of First Amendment rights. Id. at 67 & n.8. The Court identified the constitutional flaw as the absence of “judicial determinations that such publications may lawfully be banned” (id. at 70):
Criminal sanctions may be applied only after a determination of obscenity has been made in a criminal trial hedged about with the procedural safeguards of the criminal process. The Commission’s practice is in striking contrast, in that it provides no safeguards whatever against the suppression of nonobscene, and therefore constitutionally protected, matter. It is a form of regulation that creates hazards to protected freedoms markedly greater than those that attend reliance upon the criminal law. Id. at 70.
These principles apply a fortiori to the communication regulated by SOPA. Internet speech, of course, is fully protected expression, Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition, 535 U.S. 234 (2002), and the prior restraint doctrine clearly governs restrictions on such speech. In Center For Democracy & Technology v. Pappert, 337 F.Supp.2d 606 (E.D.Pa.2004), for example, the court held that a statute compelling Internet service providers (ISPs) to block websites displaying child pornography was an administrative prior restraint of protected speech barred by First Amendment, because the ban resulted in blocking websites having nothing to do with unprotected speech. Id. at 656. The court was not deterred by the fact that the notices issued to ISPs purported to be informal and used the word “should” when requesting that the ISPs disable access to allegedly pornographic material; the court opined that a reasonable person would feel coerced because the notices made clear that defendants could force the ISPs to comply by court order.
Further, the constitutional prohibition on prior restraints applies every bit as fully to legislative measures as it does to exercises of administrative authority or executive discretion. It is, after all, Congress to which the First Amendment is expressly addressed. And no less an authority than James Madison wrote:
[T]he great and essential rights of the people are secured against legislative as well as against executive ambition. They are secured, not by laws paramount to prerogative, but by constitutions paramont to laws. This security of the freedom of the press requires that it should be exempt not only from previous restraint by the Executive, as in Great Britain, but from legislative restraint also. (Quoted in Near v. Minnesota ex rel. Olson, 283 U.S. 697, 714 (1931)).
SOPA manifestly violates this bedrock prior restraint doctrine. The notices authorized by Section 103(a) of SOPA are more coercive than the informal warnings held unlawful in Bantam Books and related cases, and SOPA does not contain the requisite judicial safeguards to satisfy the prior restraint doctrine. The unilateral notice may be issued by any private party that believes its intellectual property is harmed by copyright or trademark infringement on the site; the plaintiff need not even be the owner of the infringed copyright or trademark. An online advertiser or payment processor who receives a notice of an allegedly infringing site must take action to cease providing service to that site within five days. Although the advertiser or payment processor is required to alert the allegedly infringing site of the notice in “timely” fashion, the timeline is so compressed that the site will likely be cut off before it even has the opportunity to respond. Certainly, there is no guarantee that an adversary hearing or prompt judicial review will occur. Further, even if the allegedly infringing site sends a counter-notice to the online advertiser or payment processor, SOPA does not require the advertiser or payment processor to restore service. In light of the broad immunity provisions of the bill, many advertisers and payment processors will err on the side of keeping service off.
The unilateral nature of the Section 103 notice underscores the constitutional violation. The Supreme Court has opined that ex parte or one-sided submissions raise a grave risk of error 11
and attendant constitutional problems. For example, in Connecticut v. Doehr, 501 U.S. 1 (1991), this Court found the risk of error in a state attachment statute too great even where a judge reviewed a complaint and affidavit prior to the attachment, because there was no independent review of potentially “one-sided, self-serving and conclusory submissions.” Id. at 13. Moreover, in requiring an online advertiser or payment processor to act upon mere receipt of a unilateral notice, SOPA Section 103 effectively delegates governmental power to private individuals – creating an irreducible potential for abuse and highlighting another facet of the proposed measure’s constitutional infirmity. E.g., Carter v. Carter Coal Co., 298 U.S. 238, 311 (1936) (“in the very nature of things, one person may not be entrusted with the power to regulate the business of another, and especially of a competitor”); Eubank v. City of Richmond, 226 U.S. 137, 144 (1912) (invalidating city ordinance that authorized private property owners to fix building set-back lines governing their neighbors, because “it enables the convenience or purpose of one set of property owners to control the property right of others”).
(b) Another serious constitutional flaw is that Section 103(a) contains a vague and sweeping definition of a website “dedicated to theft of U.S. property.” A site would qualify under the definition if it “enables or facilitates” infringement by a third party, whether or not such activity meets the requirements for secondary liability under existing law. Today, secondary liability for copyright infringement may not be imposed by presuming or imputing intent to cause infringement solely from the design of a product capable of substantial lawful use, even when the product’s distributor knows that it is in fact used for infringement. Sony Corp. of America v. Universal City Studios, Inc., 464 U.S. 417, 442 (1984); see also Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc. v. Grokster, Ltd., 545 U.S. 913, 934 (2005) (“Sony’s rule limits imputing culpable intent as a matter of law from the characteristics or uses of a distributed product.”).
In place of this familiar and nuanced body of judge-made law, SOPA substitutes a new and uncertain statutory standard. The abstract concepts of “enabl[ing] or facilitat[ing]” infringement by third parties, without more, will leave parties guessing at the precise meaning of SOPA. The deliberate departure from established concepts of secondary liability means that there are no guidelines or criteria to interpret the Section 103 definition. Although statutory ambiguities may be tolerable in many areas of the law, the First Amendment demands special precision and predictability in dealing with protected expression. Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Ass’n, 131 S.Ct. 2729, 2735 (2011) (noting the “heightened vagueness standard applicable to restrictions upon speech entitled to First Amendment protection”).
The statutory standard of Section 103 is at least as imprecise as prohibitions on speech the Supreme Court has declared void for vagueness in the past. For example, in Plummer v. City of Columbus, 414 U.S. 2 (1973) (per curiam), the Court held that a statute providing that “[n]o person shall abuse another by using menacing, insulting, slanderous, or profane language” was facially invalid. Id. at 2. In Coates v. Cincinnati, 402 U.S. 611 (1971), the Court struck down a municipal ordinance prohibiting three or more persons to “conduct themselves in a manner annoying to persons passing by.” Id. at 614. In Houston v. Hill, 482 U.S. 451 (1987), the Court invalidated an ordinance making it “‘unlawful for any person to . . . in any manner oppose . . . or interrupt any policeman in the execution of his duty.’” Id. at 455. In Carlson v. California, 310 U.S. 106 (1940), a unanimous Court invalidated an ordinance prohibiting individuals from carrying or displaying any sign or banner or from picketing near a place of business “for the purpose of inducing or influencing, or attempting to induce or influence, any person to refrain from entering any such works, or factory, or place of business, or employment.” Id. at 109.
To compound the burdens and uncertainty, SOPA provides that a complaining party can serve as a “Qualifying Plaintiff” entitled to file an accusation of infringement so long as it can allege harm from activities occurring on the site “or portion thereof.” Conceivably, an entire website containing tens of thousands of pages could be targeted if only a single page were alleged to cause harm. Such an approach would create severe practical problems for sites with substantial user-generated content, such as Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, and for blogs that allow users to post videos, photos, and other materials. A blogging site with millions of pages of blogs from hundreds of thousands of users could be targeted if one page or one blog on the site contained or promoted infringing content. A social networking site could be targeted if one user’s page included infringing content. A cloud computing service with millions of users could be similarly at risk.
SOPA’s harmful impact is aggravated by the fact that the definition of websites “dedicated to theft of U.S. property” includes sites that take actions to “avoid confirming a high probability of … use” for infringement. Absence of knowledge of specific infringing acts would not be a defense. Thus, the definition would effectively require sites actively to police themselves to ensure that infringement does not occur. For sites with significant third party content, the resulting burden would be overwhelming.
In effect, the bill would impose the very monitoring obligation that existing law (in the form of the DMCA) was expressly designed to avoid. Until now, Congress has promised online services a safe harbor against copyright liability so long as they take down allegedly infringing material when notified of a violation. This bill would undo the statutory framework that has created the foundation for many web-based businesses.
Faced with such uncertainties, many sites will be chilled from engaging in fully protected and lawful speech, for fear that they will be accused of a SOPA violation and suffer a cutoff of revenue from online advertising or credit card payments for transactions. The threat of such a cutoff would deter Internet companies from adopting innovative approaches to hosting and linking to third party content and from exploring new kinds of communication. “Many persons, rather than undertake the considerable burden (and sometimes risk) of vindicating their rights through case-by-case litigation, will choose simply to abstain from protected speech -- harming not only themselves but society as a whole, which is deprived of an uninhibited marketplace of ideas.” Virginia v. Hicks, 539 U.S. 113, 119 (2003) (citation omitted).
(c) SOPA Section 103 violates the First Amendment for yet another reason: it is far too sweeping to comply with the constitutional requirement of “narrow tailoring.” Although SOPA’s supporters have described the bill as directed at “foreign rogue websites,” the definitions in the bill are not limited to foreign sites or to egregious pirate sites. Rather, SOPA will lead to the silencing of a great deal of entirely permissible speech and to the shut-down of sites that have not themselves violated any copyright or trademark laws.
The Court has made clear that “[b]road prophylactic rules in the area of free expression are suspect . . . . Precision of regulation must be the touchstone in an area so closely touching our most precious freedoms.” NAACP v. Button, 371 U.S. 415, 438 (1963). “A regulation is not ‘narrowly tailored’ [for purposes of the First Amendment] . . . where . . . a substantial portion of the burden on speech does not serve to advance [the government’s] goals.” Simon & Schuster, Inc. v. Members of New York State Crime Victims Bd., 502 U.S. 105, 122, n.* (1991) (internal quotation marks omitted). If the government wishes to reduce trash on city streets, it may ban littering, but it may not ban all leafleting. (Schneider v. State (Town of Irvington), 308 U.S. 147 (1939). If the government seeks to eliminate fraudulent fundraising, it may bar the fraud, but it may not in the process prohibit legitimate fundraising (Riley v. National Federation of the Blind of North Carolina, Inc., 487 U.S. 781, 800 (1988)) If the government wishes to protect householders from unwanted solicitors, it may enforce “No Soliciting” signs that the householders put up, but it may not cut off access to homes whose residents are willing to hear what the solicitors have to say. (Martin v. City of Struthers, 319 U.S. 141 (1943)).
SOPA suffers from the same intrinsic defect. Whatever the precise level of First Amendment scrutiny applied, * the bill sweeps far too broadly and vaguely to comply with the free speech guarantee. The First Amendment requires that the government proceed with a scalpel – by prosecuting those who break the law – rather than with the sledgehammer approach of SOPA, which would silence speech across the board. The alternative procedure of the DMCA, which protects copyrights without unnecessarily trammeling on the rights of free speech, confirms that SOPA cannot satisfy the constitutional narrow tailoring requirement. The Supreme Court “ha[s]made clear that if the Government could achieve its interests in a manner that does not restrict speech, or that restricts less speech, the Government must do so.” Thompson, 535 U.S. at 371. In Rubin v. Coors Brewing Co., 514
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SOPA Section 103 targets speech based on its content, and the bill is justified by reference to “the content of the regulated speech,” United States v. Eichman, 496 U.S. 310, 318 (1990) (citation and internal quotation marks omitted), i.e., whether the message or substance of the speech infringes copyright or trademark rights. Therefore, SOPA is properly subject to the strictest version of First Amendment scrutiny – the kind applied by the Supreme Court last Term to invalidate a California law aimed at restricting minors’ access to violent video games. Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Ass’n, 131 S.Ct. 2729, 2738 (2011) (“Because the Act imposes a restriction on the content of protected speech, it is invalid unless California can demonstrate that it passes strict scrutiny – that is, unless it is justified by a compelling government interest and is narrowly drawn to serve that interest. The State must specifically identify an ‘actual problem’ in need of solving, and the curtailment of free speech must be actually necessary to the solution. That is a demanding standard. ‘It is rare that a regulation restricting speech because of its content will ever be permissible.’”) (citation omitted). However, the analysis in text of the “narrow tailoring” defects in Section 103 applies under any version of First Amendment review. The Supreme Court has frequently used so-called “intermediate” First Amendment scrutiny to invalidate restrictions on speech as insufficiently tailored. See Sorrell v. IMS Health Inc., 131 S.Ct. 2653 (2011) (overturning Vermont law that restricted the sale, disclosure, and use of pharmacy records revealing the prescribing practices of individual doctors); Thompson v. Western States Medical Center, 535 U.S. 357 (2002) (striking down law banning advertising and promotion of certain compounded drugs); Rubin v. Coors Brewing Co., 514 U.S. 476, 490 (1995) (striking down restrictions on alcohol labeling); Ibanez v. Fla. Dept. of Pro. & Bus. Regulation, 512 U.S. 136, 146 (1994) (overturning reprimand of attorney who used CPA and CFP designations in advertising); Edenfield v. Fane, 507 U.S. 761, 771 (1993) (overturning ban on in-person solicitation by CPAs); City of Cincinnati v. Discovery Network, Inc., 507 U.S. 10 (1993) (invalidating regulation of newsracks for commercial handbills).
U.S. 476 (1995), for example, the Court found a law prohibiting beer labels from displaying alcohol content to be unconstitutional in part because of the availability of alternatives “such as directly limiting the alcohol content of beers, prohibiting marketing efforts emphasizing high content will ever be permissible.’”) (citation omitted). However, the analysis in text of the “narrow tailoring” defects in Section 103 applies under any version of First Amendment review. The Supreme Court has frequently used so-called “intermediate” First Amendment scrutiny to invalidate restrictions on speech as insufficiently tailored. See Sorrell v. IMS Health Inc., 131 S.Ct. 2653 (2011) (overturning Vermont law that restricted the sale, disclosure, and use of pharmacy records revealing the prescribing practices of individual doctors); Thompson v. Western States Medical Center, 535 U.S. 357 (2002) (striking down law banning advertising and promotion of certain compounded drugs); Rubin v. Coors Brewing Co., 514 U.S. 476, 490 (1995) (striking down restrictions on alcohol labeling); Ibanez v. Fla. Dept. of Pro. & Bus. Regulation, 512 U.S. 136, 146 (1994) (overturning reprimand of attorney who used CPA and CFP designations in advertising); Edenfield v. Fane, 507 U.S. 761, 771 (1993) (overturning ban on in-person solicitation by CPAs); City of Cincinnati v. Discovery Network, Inc., 507 U.S. 10 (1993) (invalidating regulation of newsracks for commercial handbills). alcohol strength . . ., or limiting the labeling ban only to malt liquors.” Id. at 490-91. The fact that “all of [these alternatives] could advance the Government’s asserted interest in a manner less intrusive to . . . First Amendment rights” indicated that the law was “more extensive than necessary.” Id. at 491. See also 44 Liquormart, Inc. v. Rhode Island, 517 U.S. 484, 507 (1996) (plurality opinion) (striking down a prohibition on advertising the price of alcoholic beverages in part because “alternative forms of regulation that would not involve any restriction on speech would be more likely to achieve the State’s goal of promoting temperance”).
(d) It is no defense to say that, rather than banning speech outright, Section 103 of SOPA “merely” deprives websites of speech-related funding by requiring online advertisers and payment processors to sever their relationships with those sites. Courts have always treated such cutoffs of revenue from expression as fully equivalent to direct suppressions of speech. In NTEU v. United States, 513 U.S. 454, 469 (1995), for example, the Supreme Court struck down a limit on honoraria because it decreased the “incentive” of government employees to speak. In Simon & Schuster, Inc. v. Members of New York State Crime Victims Bd., 502 U.S. 105 (1991), the Court invalidated New York’s “Son of Sam” law, which prevented criminals from profiting from publishing deals by impounding the receipts. In Riley v. National Federation of the Blind, Inc., 487 U.S. 781, 789 n.5 (1988), the Court held that financial regulation of professional fundraisers could not be defended as a “merely economic” regulation having “only an indirect effect on protected speech,” but rather triggered full First Amendment scrutiny. Hence, prohibiting or restricting payment for communication has long been treated as an infringement of speech. See also Secretary of State of Maryland v. Joseph H. Munson Co., 467 U.S. 947 (1984) (striking down on First Amendment grounds a statute regulating contracts between charities and professional fundraisers and forbidding such contracts if, after allowing a deduction for many of the costs associated with the solicitation, the fundraiser retained more than 25% of the money collected); Schaumburg v. Citizens for a Better Environment, 444 U.S. 620 (1980) (invalidating local ordinance requiring charitable solicitors to use 75% of funds solicited for charitable purposes); Minneapolis Star & Tribune Co. v. Minnesota Commissioner of Revenue, 460 U.S. 575 (1983) (tax on ink held to violate First Amendment). In Meyer v. Grant, 486 U.S. 414, 424 (1988), the Court struck down a ban on the payment of petition circulators, not a rule restricting what they could say, and in Davis v. Federal Election Comm’n, 554 U.S. 724 (2008), and Arizona Free Enterprise Club’s Freedom Club PAC v. Bennett, 131 S.Ct. 2806, 2817-19 (2011), the Court treated laws with purely financial impacts (rules awarding political opponents greater financial resources in the event a candidate exceeded certain contribution or expenditure limits) as infringements on speech.
(2) Another constitutionally infirm section of the bill is Section 102, which authorizes suits by the U.S. Attorney General against foreign websites or portions thereof that allegedly “facilitate” infringement. The bill makes clear that infringement may be found where only a “portion” of the site is in violation. Under the bill, it appears that the Attorney General could sue if only a single page on a 1,000-page website were deemed to infringe. Such lawsuits would require service providers (which under the bill include telephone and cable companies, university networks, libraries, private businesses, and others) to take “technically feasible and reasonable measures designed to prevent access” to infringing sites, including but not limited to measures designed to prevent the domain name of the site from resolving to the domain name’s Internet Protocol address. An Internet “search engine” (which, under the bill, arguably includes any site with a “search box” that allows users to search for content elsewhere on the site or domain) is required to take “technically feasible and reasonable measures” to prevent an infringing site from being served as a direct hypertext link. Payment processors and online advertisers are similarly required to sever ties with the site.
Footnotes:
SOPA’s definition of “service provider” includes providers of Internet access and transport for Internet communications or any “provider of online services” that operates a “nonauthoritative domain name system servicer.” H.R. 3261 Section 101(22) (cross-referencing 17 U.S.C. § 512(k)(1)).
SOPA provides that “[t]he term ‘Internet search engine’ means a service made available via the Internet that searches . . . information or Web sites available elsewhere on the Internet.” H.R. 3261 Section 101(16).
Experts have warned of the dangers of disrupting the IP address system at the heart of the Internet and about the risks of exposing U.S. companies to technology mandates by federal judges, who are authorized under the bill to second-guess the measures used to block access or service to Internet sites at the request of law enforcement or private parties. Their concern may have been with the problems of such disruption from a policy perspective. My concern in this memorandum, however, is strictly constitutional in nature: the bill will prevent U.S. audiences from receiving a great deal of entirely lawful and legitimate information, in light of the procedure by which law enforcement authorities can sue “foreign infringing sites.” Section 102 authorizes the Attorney General to sue a “foreign infringing site” under an “in rem” theory if the owner or operator cannot be located, and in such cases it appears highly unlikely that there would ever be an adversary hearing testing the merits of the government’s allegations. Even where the owner or operator of a foreign site is known, it seems doubtful that the government’s allegations would be tested, since foreign sites will often be unwilling to enter a U.S. court. In the meantime, the blacklist would deny the right of U.S. audiences to receive the information – at the very time our government criticizes other countries for denying their citizens access to websites that lack official approval.
The scheme therefore conflicts with the Supreme Court’s recognition that U.S. audiences have First Amendment rights to receive information from foreign sources, even where the overseas speakers themselves fall outside the First Amendment’s protective umbrella. In Lamont v. Postmaster General, 381 U.S. 301 (1965) – the first case in which the Supreme Court invalidated an Act of Congress on free speech grounds – the Court held unconstitutional a mandate that U.S. recipients of “communist political propaganda” from overseas affirmatively notify the Post Office that they wish to receive it. The law required the Post Office to keep an official list of persons desiring to receive communist political propaganda, id. at 303, which, of course, was intended to chill demand for such materials. The Court was not deterred by the fact that the foreign originators of the communications lay outside the U.S. and beyond the reach of the First Amendment’s protections for speakers and instead opined that U.S. audiences had a First Amendment right to receive those communications. Id. at 307; see also id. at 307-08 (Brennan, J., concurring) (“These might be troublesome cases if the addressees predicated their claim for relief upon the First Amendment rights of the senders. To succeed, the addressees would then have to establish their standing to vindicate the senders’ constitutional rights, as well as First Amendment protection for political propaganda prepared and printed abroad by or on behalf of a foreign government. However, those questions are not before us, since the addressees assert First Amendment claims in their own right: they contend that the Government is powerless to interfere with the delivery of the material because the First Amendment ‘necessarily protects the right to receive it.’”) (citations omitted).
Subsequent cases have re-affirmed the audience’s independent First Amendment right to receive protected information. Denver Area Educational Telecommunications Consortium, Inc. v. FCC, 518 U.S. 727, 754 (1996) (citing Lamont); Virginia State Bd. of Pharm. v. Virginia Citizens Consumer Council, Inc., 425 U.S. 748, 769-70 (1976) (relying on right of audience to justify First Amendment protection for commercial speech). SOPA Section 102 violates this right by creating an overbroad scheme that will predictably result in depriving U.S. audiences of protected, non-infringing speech.
(3) I recognize that some commentators and scholars have defended the constitutionality of SOPA. In particular, Floyd Abrams, a well known First Amendment advocate, submitted a letter dated November 7, 2011 to Chairman Smith on behalf of the Motion Picture Association and other clients. However, Mr. Abrams’ letter does not come to grips with the far-reaching changes in copyright and trademark law that SOPA would trigger. In fact, much of Mr. Abrams’ argument actually serves, in my view, to underscore the constitutional problems with SOPA. For example, Mr. Abrams acknowledges that seizure powers under the copyright law must be exercised with “due regard to First Amendment considerations” (p. 4) and that “[t]he Internet is one of the greatest tools of freedom in the history of the world.” (p. 2). Yet SOPA would suppress a great deal of protected Internet speech, reduce investment and innovation, and eliminate the statutory framework (in the form of the DMCA) that has served as the foundation for the business model for many websites.
In addition, his letter concedes several of the points in my analysis:
• Mr. Abrams recognizes that “[i]t is a fundamental principle of First Amendment jurisprudence that government restrictions on speech should be narrowly tailored to avoid unnecessarily burdening protected speech.” (p. 10). I believe SOPA fails this essential requirement.
• Mr. Abrams admits that “some operators of allegedly infringing websites may knowingly decline to participate in U.S. court proceedings. Such a choice, after legitimate notice and procedural safeguards are provided, may lead to ex parte proceedings and default judgments.” (p. 9). This admission demonstrates that, in practical effect, allegations of infringement against foreign sites may never be tested in court, resulting in the silencing of speech without any adversarial hearings.
• Mr. Abrams recognizes that, even when court hearings are provided, SOPA may result in the suppression of entirely lawful, protected speech:
Regardless of the particular standard or definition of foreign infringing sites, court-approved remedies under the Stop Online Piracy Act may result in the blockage or disruption of some protected speech. As discussed above, the bill provides a range of injunctive relief is available, with a court making the final determination as to whether and how to craft relief against a website operator or owner or third party intermediaries. When injunctive relief includes blocking domain names, the blockage of non-infringing or protected content may result.
(pp. 11-12) (emphasis added).
Mr. Abrams stresses “[t]he Supreme Court’s most detailed treatment of the interrelationship between the First Amendment and copyright, the seminal case of Harper & Row Publishers, Inc. v. Nation Enters., 471 U.S. 539 (1985).” (p. 3). Yet the Harper & Row case involved a traditional, time-honored copyright principle – the “fair use” doctrine – not a radical departure from the familiar contours of copyright law like the provisions of SOPA. Harper & Row did not hold that any kind of revolutionary, speech-suppressing statute would be constitutional, so long it was wrapped in the mantle of copyright law. In fact, in a subsequent case, the Supreme Court made clear that copyright statutes are not “categorically immune” from First Amendment scrutiny and explained that the approach of Harper & Row applied only “when . . . Congress has not altered the traditional contours of copyright protection.” Eldred v. Ashcroft, 537 U.S. 186, 221 (2003). Whatever else may be said of SOPA, it certainly “alters” those contours.
The fact that SOPA’s purpose is the protection of intellectual property rights does not change the constitutional calculus. Benign motives do not shield legislation from First Amendment scrutiny, nor is “[i]llicit legislative intent . . . the sine qua non of a violation of the First Amendment.” Minneapolis Star & Tribune Co. v. Minnesota Comm’r of Revenue, 460 U.S. 575, 592 (1983). The Supreme Court has “long recognized that even regulations aimed at proper governmental concerns can restrict unduly the exercise of rights protected by the First Amendment.” Id. at 592; see also Simon & Schuster, Inc. v. Members of N.Y. State Crime Victims Bd., 502 U.S. 105, 117 (1991) (striking down law despite absence of evidence that “the legislature intends to suppress certain ideas”); Arkansas Writers' Project, Inc. v. Ragland, 481 U.S. 221, 228 (1987) (speaker need adduce “no evidence of an improper censorial motive” in order to invalidate law).
To their credit, SOPA’s sponsors recognize the importance of the constitutional issues raised by the statute they propose. The bill includes language stating “[n]othing in this Act shall be construed to impose a prior restraint on free speech or the press protected under the 1st Amendment to the Constitution.” But proclaiming the bill to be constitutional does not make it so – any more than reminding everyone of a proposed law’s good intentions renders that law immune to First Amendment scrutiny. At the same time, the proviso may have the unintended effect of rendering large swaths of the bill inoperative. For it is difficult to understand how the provisions discussed above would operate except as impermissible prior restraints. The proviso creates confusion and underscores the need to go back to the drawing board and craft a new measure that works as a scalpel rather than a sledgehammer to address the governmental interests that SOPA purports to advance.
Source is Lawrence H. Tribe, University Professor of Constitutional Law at Harvard
Spoilered because long text is long. And yes, I read through the whole damned thing as I was reformatting it. This isn't the only one I've read in the past week, either, despite the accusation of certain worthless trolls that I only look at wikipedia articles.
I have a personal philosophy towards law that people will always use, stretch, and abuse laws as far as they can go to get what they want out of them beyond what the laws were intended to do, so I suppose that particular interpretation rings with my philosophy.
Melissia wrote:I have a personal philosophy towards law that people will always use, stretch, and abuse laws as far as they can go to get what they want out of them beyond what the laws were intended to do, so I suppose that particular interpretation rings with my philosophy.
I have the same philosophy, I suppose I'm just more cynical.
Melissia wrote:
Also I'm now glad I didn't go in to law.
Brother Coa wrote:When will we know when this SOPA is on or off?
Essentially, never. Congress could theoretically bring it up for a vote every day until it gets passed. This is obviously extremely unlikely.
They'll probably wait until the furor dies down and pass it in the next few months or so.
Melissia wrote:I have a personal philosophy towards law that people will always use, stretch, and abuse laws as far as they can go to get what they want out of them beyond what the laws were intended to do, so I suppose that particular interpretation rings with my philosophy.
That's not a good approach to the law if you're going to study it. Especially since study of law is about what the law is rather than what it should be.
Also, sorry for not responding to your other post, I couldn't find a way to do so without making an offensive joke. Imagine there's one here.
Melissia wrote:Also I'm now glad I didn't go in to law.
Honestly, that's light reading.
While I respect Tribe, I disagree with his assertion that this is prior restraint.
Melissia wrote:I have a personal philosophy towards law that people will always use, stretch, and abuse laws as far as they can go to get what they want out of them beyond what the laws were intended to do, so I suppose that particular interpretation rings with my philosophy.
That's not a good approach to the law if you're going to study it. Especially since study of law is about what the law is rather than what it should be.
If I were talking about what law should be, I'd have said something different entirely.
That was my opinion on what law is right now, at least in the US.
Mind you I'm probably only keeping in mind the most extreme cases. But those ARE the cases that push the boundries...
biccat wrote:Especially since study of law is about what the law is rather than what it should be.
Is that why there are so many interpretations of Constitutional law?
For what its worth, I agree, study should be about the nature of things rather than what you want that nature to be. But very often studying things drives people to arrive at conclusions regarding what they want things to be.
In fact, people are employed specifically in order to determine if certain laws are in consistence with what their employers believe they should be, and they certainly pour over them there laws.
dogma wrote:Is that why there are so many interpretations of Constitutional law?
For what its worth, I agree, study should be about the nature of things rather than what you want that nature to be. But very often studying things drives people to arrive at conclusions regarding what they want things to be.
In fact, people are employed specifically in order to determine if certain laws are in consistence with what their employers believe they should be, and they certainly pour over them there laws.
Well...yeah.
We don't fight about what the law should be, we fight about what the law is. It's up to the legislators (and lobbyists) and judges to determine what the law is.
Although most cases, especially criminal, are all about what facts you can prove. Which is why most cases settle.
biccat wrote:
We don't fight about what the law should be, we fight about what the law is. It's up to the legislators (and lobbyists) and judges to determine what the law is.
My argument is that there is very little difference in practice.
biccat wrote:We don't fight about what the law should be, we fight about what the law is. It's up to the legislators (and lobbyists) and judges to determine what the law is.
My argument is that there is very little difference in practice.
Well, in practice there's actually a reasonably clear line. Maybe to laypersons it's not apparent, but it's pretty clear once you're on the inside.
It's like discussing a philosophical work. How much is actual interpretation of the work and how much is extrapolation from the work to develop a new theory?
biccat wrote:Well, in practice there's actually a reasonably clear line. Maybe to laypersons it's not apparent, but it's pretty clear once you're on the inside.
It's like discussing a philosophical work. How much is actual interpretation of the work and how much is extrapolation from the work to develop a new theory?
We're just going to disagree on this, because while the definition of the terms in question may be clearly delineated, even in the philosophical case, in practice the distinction is quite muddy.
biccat wrote:Well, in practice there's actually a reasonably clear line. Maybe to laypersons it's not apparent, but it's pretty clear once you're on the inside.
It's like discussing a philosophical work. How much is actual interpretation of the work and how much is extrapolation from the work to develop a new theory?
We're just going to disagree on this, because while the definition of the terms in question may be clearly delineated, even in the philosophical case, in practice the distinction is quite muddy.
I completely understand your position, I think it's just a difficult perspective to explain to someone that doesn't have legal experience.