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col. krazy kenny wrote:

Eumerin wrote:Yeah... people have been complaining about the binding on the official forums. I don't know how widespread the issue is, but there's enough of it to get noticed.

If you're not planning on getting the hardcover, then you may want to think about getting the mini version bound.

I am having the same problems,My wife got me the Das Book for Christmas and the pages are already falling out.

My Das Book is still fine. I haven't had any problems with it. Nor has anyone in my local group.

BF has had complaints about their soft-cover books in the past (though personally, the only book that's started to fall apart on me is my copy of Fortress Europe), though lately it looked as if they'd gotten things under control. Hopefully the issues with the V3 mini don't indicate a return to past problems.

Through our local Gaming Guild at Firestormgames. One of our members has secured a box of them direct from Battlefront.

www.firestormgames.com

My group got ours this past Saturday. On all of them the binding started to come apart. Granted, it's like 4 books. I've been scouring the BF forums to see if anybody else has had similar issues but wasn't able to locate those threads.

mwnciboo wrote:Through our local Gaming Guild at Firestormgames. One of our members has secured a box of them direct from Battlefront.

www.firestormgames.com

I'm guessing you meant www.firestormgames.co.uk ? - Thanks for the link though.

I tried the earlier post to the warstore but it's US based and for the mini rulebook with a cheap BF blister they wanted 20 dollars to post to the UK. Ouch.

Hopefully mine will be in at my FLGS on Friday.

I'm fully expecting to need to bind it though. Hells Highway, FE, River of Heros, Cobra...I don't think I own a softcover BF book where the pages aren't coming out. Even my Eastern Front book is pretty iffy on the binding.

Maelstrom are also doing the "buy FOW, get mini" deal too.

ambler wrote:

mwnciboo wrote:Through our local Gaming Guild at Firestormgames. One of our members has secured a box of them direct from Battlefront.

www.firestormgames.com

I'm guessing you meant www.firestormgames.co.uk ? - Thanks for the link though.

I tried the earlier post to the warstore but it's US based and for the mini rulebook with a cheap BF blister they wanted 20 dollars to post to the UK. Ouch.

DOH!!!!!!!!!! Cheers. I've just heard the 3 main books are bit flimsy, and a good source and friend of mine told me to get it hardbound as they are not true hardbounds. Not sure if I believe him, but he's been right in the past.

Awesome, so if i order anything FOW related off maelstromgames.co.uk i get the mini rules free?

Correct. I did just that. If you tip it over a tenner its post-free as well.

I plan on getting my mini spiral bound at the get go. Then there will be no issue of it spitting pages out at me.

Consider that Idea stolen Combat Engineer, I'm going to get the small book spiral bound.

Maelstrom Games are running a similar deal.

I orderd a couple of tanks destroyers that I’ve been meaning to get for some time but just hadn’t gotten round to ordering. Seeing this offer was just what I needed to motivate me into getting my order in.

Mine order is currently in the ‘packing’ stage. Hopefully it should turn up in the next few days.

Thanks guys, I just ordered a blister of Nebelwerfers I have been eyeing up for a while from Maelstrom. Look forward to getting my mini rulebook and then having it spiral bound! Should last longer then the v2 one did....


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Does anyone know what is happening with the Open Fire starter set? I guess the "giveaway" of v3 mini rules suggests they are not going to do another starter set....

Awesome! I didn't realize the mini rulebooks were here already. I'll have to order me a copy from the Warstore.

ambler wrote:Thanks guys, I just ordered a blister of Nebelwerfers I have been eyeing up for a while from Maelstrom. Look forward to getting my mini rulebook and then having it spiral bound! Should last longer then the v2 one did....


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Does anyone know what is happening with the Open Fire starter set? I guess the "giveaway" of v3 mini rules suggests they are not going to do another starter set....

BF indicated in one of their videos that another starter set would be forthcoming. We don't have any further information, though.

The "giveaway" of the V3 rules is similar to what they did when they updated from V1 to V2.

Just got mine and I must say, the amount of photos are making me cry that I have to go to work. This is exactly what I expect to see in a rule book: photos and lots of diagrams. Can't wait to get my first game in this weekend.

Eumerin wrote:

ambler wrote:Thanks guys, I just ordered a blister of Nebelwerfers I have been eyeing up for a while from Maelstrom. Look forward to getting my mini rulebook and then having it spiral bound! Should last longer then the v2 one did....


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Does anyone know what is happening with the Open Fire starter set? I guess the "giveaway" of v3 mini rules suggests they are not going to do another starter set....

BF indicated in one of their videos that another starter set would be forthcoming. We don't have any further information, though.

The "giveaway" of the V3 rules is similar to what they did when they updated from V1 to V2.

They best fix this "falling apart" issue then. People are not going to be happy when they have paid for the book instead of got it for nothing.

ArbeitsSchu wrote:
They best fix this "falling apart" issue then. People are not going to be happy when they have paid for the book instead of got it for nothing.

Keep in mind that we don't yet know anything about the new starter set except that there will be one. It's possible that they'll provide a different rulebook instead of the V3 mini.

Though if they do, I'm in complete agreement with you. The binding issue definitely needs to be fixed.

Wayland games have just started giving out the mini rules too if anyone can't get hold of a copy. Don't think they have the free shipping deal though.

eorltheyoung wrote:Wayland games have just started giving out the mini rules too if anyone can't get hold of a copy. Don't think they have the free shipping deal though.

The warstore.com http://www.thewarstore.com/ is doing the same thing for us Yanks.

col. krazy kenny wrote:HAs any one ordered or recieved their mini rulebooks yet?I ordered mine last nite and should have mine before the end of the week.So how does this sound, lets put up a review.All i can say is that this makes me glad that i started playing and collecting ww2 models.

Got my this past Sunday from my FLGS. He had gotten 6 in of the 18 people had reserved. I have heard of some folks having their books fall apart, but so far I have to say it is a fantastic product for a free upgrade. I have no complaints. Also liking the less 2 dimensional rule examples in the book that use real minis now. Really nicely done.

Skriker

Got mine tonight, very nice book. Really like the rule explanation diagrams, there is no room to misinterpret. Quite a dense tome as well, definitely going to get it spiral bound.

Here is something messed up, there are aholes on ebay already selling it for 25$WTF! Wow i thought i was bad for getting two copies,one for me and the other as gift for a friend who plays and can not afford to buy models,so i have been collecting two armies.USA para for him,He is a Para veteran of Afganistan and Iraq.i play a German Panzer Company by the way.Soon to upgraded to the 2nd SS Das Reich.



Was going to post a link but it has already been taken down.

yes the books are poorly bound, infact i was looking through one carfully and the artillery section came out.

According to my FLGS you take it to kinkos/office max/staples get it bound, make a copy of the receipt send it to BF with a blister code of your choice and they will send you a blister.

Eumerin wrote:

ArbeitsSchu wrote:
They best fix this "falling apart" issue then. People are not going to be happy when they have paid for the book instead of got it for nothing.

Keep in mind that we don't yet know anything about the new starter set except that there will be one. It's possible that they'll provide a different rulebook instead of the V3 mini.

Though if they do, I'm in complete agreement with you. The binding issue definitely needs to be fixed.

Even if it is a different book, if it comes from the same gakky publishers then the problem will remain.

I got mine today,very nice book indeed.I guess i will find out about the binding issue.To bad Gw does not have the superior customer service that Battlefront does.

lixulana wrote:yes the books are poorly bound, infact i was looking through one carfully and the artillery section came out.

According to my FLGS you take it to kinkos/office max/staples get it bound, make a copy of the receipt send it to BF with a blister code of your choice and they will send you a blister.

Got an address to direct that too? half of artilery came out of mine as well. Was going to spiral bind it anyway, but this will take some of the pain out.

Got my book tonight, and didn't even crack it open. Went right to Staples to get it spiral bound, and I'll get it today.

In a completely amazing moment of coincidence, the guy who I gave the book to was a fellow wargamer. 15mm AWI, of all things.

Got mine (and my dinky 2nd Ed vet sticker ). I'm really impressed with the presentation of the book and it has reinvigorated me in painting more units this afternoon. I'm contemplating ordering some more minis just to cadge a second copy!

I'm also just pondering whether to test the BF statement that you can learn the game from diagrams only!

Got mine today. Now to start writing a new V3 compliant list.

Shotgun wrote:

lixulana wrote:yes the books are poorly bound, infact i was looking through one carfully and the artillery section came out.

According to my FLGS you take it to kinkos/office max/staples get it bound, make a copy of the receipt send it to BF with a blister code of your choice and they will send you a blister.

Got an address to direct that too? half of artilery came out of mine as well. Was going to spiral bind it anyway, but this will take some of the pain out.

I'm also keen to find out about this, if it's true it's another awesome gesture by these guys.

I bought the wrong blister by accident for my DAK, it was early when I wanted mid-war. I asked them if I could by a mortar team and some MG figs and they just sent me enough to make the unit!

It's a week since I ordered from Maelstrom (including the Mini rulebook with purchase) and my order is still saying it is being processed. Not impressed so far. Has anyone else ordered from Maelstrom in the UK? Does it normally take more than a week to despatch an order? My money was processed fairly swiftly....

I ordered a bunch of stuff on the second of Feb. The last of it arrived yesterday (PSC Panthers).

I made my order one day before the book deal kicked in. I am waiting on them to return some miscast Kubelwagens I returned to them though. I think I'll give them a call tomorrow.

That's disgusting about the eBay profiteering. Still havnen't ordered mine yet being a poor student. Really hope they dont run out.

col. krazy kenny wrote:Here is something messed up, there are aholes on ebay already selling it for 25$WTF! Wow i thought i was bad for getting two copies,one for me and the other as gift for a friend who plays and can not afford to buy models,so i have been collecting two armies.USA para for him,He is a Para veteran of Afganistan and Iraq.i play a German Panzer Company by the way.Soon to upgraded to the 2nd SS Das Reich.



Was going to post a link but it has already been taken down.

I hate to say it but that's capitalism? People sell their Games Day miniatures they get with their ticket. If an item is rare (even if free limited edition) people will grab it and sell it. Rarity makes it valuable. It's not great that this has happened but it does. Personally If I am buying the V3 Hardback, I would consider selling the v3 Book on. You only should get it if you invested in the V2 Hardback, what stops you selling the V2 hardback? Nothing. Once you posses something you can do what you like with it. Plus it's a complete set of rules.

So actually it's not free is it? You need to have bought a V2 Hardback, If I then sell it for £5 to someone who wants the little book, I can then get the Hardback V3 for £25 instead of £30 or whatever?

Re Maelstrom, I'm guessing thay have a huge number of orders since they are offering the rules free witha purchase. They are pretty slow when they dont have a rush on. (Also I'm guessing that they have put things up for order without having stock anyway).

I think the Maelstrom issue might be that they only recently took FOW back on, so a lot of it isn't in stick. So in order to get the mini, one has to order things that may not actually be available without a subsequent order to the suppliers. But they also have a terrible tendency to move at the speed of the slowest. Check that your order doesn't contain a "slow" item. (Out of stock and such.)

This could cause problems for FLGS and Suppliers giving this away. It probably is contrary to the terms and conditions as laid out by the Producer (battlefront) and therefore may land a big entity like Maelstrom in hot water.

It was only for those with a V2 Hardback; to give it away with orders over a set amount is wrong. The issue here fundamentally, is that battlefront covered the Cost of producing and distributing the Books. Other Companies (maelstrom et al) are now using this as a vehicle to shift more product off their shelves, boosting their profit margin. BF already has got paid for their product, so yes they may shift more stock in a particular store but effectively the Store Owner is creaming off the top using the V3 book as a big carrot....Which was never intended to be given away in this manner and is also depriving legitimate owners of Hardcopy V2 of copies of the book.

If I was BF I would be furious that a retailer is hijacking my PR scheme for their own ends.

Guys,
Thanks for your replies about Maelstrom. I notice that almost all bar a few FoW items are not in Stock at Maelstrom. Even so, I would expect the item to be ordered in a week from a UK based supplier. The order is still "processing".... I just hope that by the time it gets sent out that the mini rulebook has not run out or that it isn't March and the hardback available. I would still like both as I don't like carrying large rulebooks to game venues.
As for them falling apart, I guess you get what you pay for (!) I intend to get mine bound assuming staples or similar does not want a fortune for the task (anyone paid for theirs biding yet in the UK?). The v2 mini rulebook did the same after opening it for the first game on the table the binder and first set of pages fell away.

Mwnciboo: I have to agree with you about the selling of these books, though not completely I think. Debate is good. The only thing I have heard from BF about the v3 mini-booklet is that it was available to holders of the v2 hardback who could show they had a copy (in person or by supplying the id number). So you are correct, no-one should be giving or selling it away as a business seller. Also, once it is yours, there is nothing to stop you selling your book on to someone else, so I have no issues with people putting it on ebay for example

However, I do think that it is up to Battlefront to enforce any terms of supply of their product with their vendors. Several companies seem to be "giving them away" with purchases all in differing ways (free with purchase, 10 pounds, 40 pounds, etc. Either they are all in the wrong for trying to profit from the free product or BF need to put out a message about the availability of these books (terms and conditions of supply) to make the situation clearer to customers. Given the poor quality of the mini-rulebook binding, I can't see much point in making an issue out of the terms of supply of these little booklets. Also, if so many suppliers are doing this "giveaway" can they all be in the wrong...?

Finally, if there are to be better quality booklets in an Open Fire V3 set then I also think that BF should be publicising this rather than let it hang around forums like this. Is there to be a v3 Open Fire set....? This link for March tells me there will be no Open Fire v3 starter set soon. Will it be the same booklet - If so I can see OFv3 not selling due to these quality issues. see: http://www.flamesofwar.com/Default.aspx?tabid=53&art_id=3155

BF please speak!

When I spoke to Wayland (my FLGs) in the run up to V3 they said they were in pretty much in daily contact.

Now while I don't "know" anything I would suggest this is being done with the full consent of BF (also th fact that all internetz retailers are doing it too). If last years maelstrom debarcle shows us anything then is that the retailers don't want to upset BF over something pretty minor like a few free rule books. Anyway the more stock retailers shift the better off BF are.

ambler wrote:Guys,
Thanks for your replies about Maelstrom. I notice that almost all bar a few FoW items are not in Stock at Maelstrom. Even so, I would expect the item to be ordered in a week from a UK based supplier. The order is still "processing".... I just hope that by the time it gets sent out that the mini rulebook has not run out or that it isn't March and the hardback available. I would still like both as I don't like carrying large rulebooks to game venues.
As for them falling apart, I guess you get what you pay for (!) I intend to get mine bound assuming staples or similar does not want a fortune for the task (anyone paid for theirs biding yet in the UK?). The v2 mini rulebook did the same after opening it for the first game on the table the binder and first set of pages fell away.

Mwnciboo: I have to agree with you about the selling of these books, though not completely I think. Debate is good. The only thing I have heard from BF about the v3 mini-booklet is that it was available to holders of the v2 hardback who could show they had a copy (in person or by supplying the id number). So you are correct, no-one should be giving or selling it away as a business seller. Also, once it is yours, there is nothing to stop you selling your book on to someone else, so I have no issues with people putting it on ebay for example

However, I do think that it is up to Battlefront to enforce any terms of supply of their product with their vendors. Several companies seem to be "giving them away" with purchases all in differing ways (free with purchase, 10 pounds, 40 pounds, etc. Either they are all in the wrong for trying to profit from the free product or BF need to put out a message about the availability of these books (terms and conditions of supply) to make the situation clearer to customers. Given the poor quality of the mini-rulebook binding, I can't see much point in making an issue out of the terms of supply of these little booklets. Also, if so many suppliers are doing this "giveaway" can they all be in the wrong...?

Finally, if there are to be better quality booklets in an Open Fire V3 set then I also think that BF should be publicising this rather than let it hang around forums like this. Is there to be a v3 Open Fire set....? This link for March tells me there will be no Open Fire v3 starter set soon. Will it be the same booklet - If so I can see OFv3 not selling due to these quality issues. see: http://www.flamesofwar.com/Default.aspx?tabid=53&art_id=3155

BF please speak!

Absolutely this...I support everything in here. Once you own it, do what you like. But the retailer / Manufacturer relationship is fractured here. I like BF and they are very Professional, unlike Maelstrom who have published business correspondence on the Internet between them over the last few months. Maelstrom obviously think that Nerd/ Neckbeard gaming rage can become a ground swell that can over turn statute books. Good luck with that, last I checked the Law was beholden to itself.

BF you have my support.

Thanks for the post, mwnciboo. I like to open up debate. I guess BF are "damned if they do or don't"! Anything has to be better than GW's stance over the last few years. BTW: My order with Maelstrom is now at the "packing stage". Whoop.

Just to let you guys know my Malestrom order arrived yesterday, 12 days after order. The mini rulebook is heavier than I thought it would be, some 297 pages. I didn't crank it open too far so the pages are still there. Looks like a lot of annotated pictures to explain the rules. Looking good though. Now to find a binding service....
Hope you guys get your books okay. BTW: I think Maelstrom have a deadline for these "free" mini rulebooks of 24th(tomorrow) so get your FoW orders in quick!

Retailers are always going to have more V3s than V2 owners to give them to. Giving them to other people only increases the readership, which is a good thing. Its just those over-entitled gits who think buying a V2 hard makes them more loyal customers, and superior to those that bought Open Fire kicking up a fuss.

I am curious what people are specifically doing to their books, though. I have had mine for a couple weeks now and keep poring through it and enjoying all the decent example pictures and such and my binding is still fully intact. Not a single page is loose or falling out...hrm...

I've had that in the past too where people complain loudly about the horrible binding, but then my own copy lasts for ages before I see a problem. Do some people read like they are apes instead of humans?

Skriker

Well I got mine from Maelstrom. Even though my order was placed around early Jan! I emailed them to find out if they would give one, they said no, then sent me one anyway! Pretty cool on their part, so they must have loads.

I've had mine spiral bound, I opened it and it split around the artillery section. Now I can lay it flat on the table and read without worrying.

Also they've just put all the missions up for download on the FOW site too.

http://www.flamesofwar.com/Portals/0/Documents/Scenarios/Missions/Third-Edition-Missions.pdf

My binding last 15 minutes.

I just got it bound this morning.

Why they don't spiral bind to beginwith, I will never understand.

If people can mass produce the Bible and you don't have to worry about pages falling out, i would think the technology is out there for some kind of "super" glue to last longer than 15 minutes.

Pages do fall out the bible, it's just that you don't hear about it across these forums.

Also, the reason why they don't spiral bind them from the start is that it's still much cheaper to take a stack of pages, have them machine cut down to size, then have another machine slap glue onto one side, then have a third machine slap that into a cover. That's very cheap to do.

Remember that these were made to be cheap, and free. Any additional cost to make them would be pointless.

Seems that BF went too cheap on this one.

Just to answer a couple of points. First, if the book is opened up to lay so that you don't have to keep two hands on it all the time such as when using it to check the rules while gaming the pages DO come out. I have not had this happen with other manufacturers mini rulebooks. This leads on the second point. Spending a little more money to get a better binding so it lays flat is worthwhile. NO one goes out of their way to produce a 297 page booklet that will fall out apart. That would be daft. I doubt that BF intentionally set out to do that!
I would have glady paid a fiver to get this book in a better quality. I really do not want to have to go and get it bound. And remember, this is the same booklet they are giving to those who produce a hardback v2 book. I would feel insulted to be offered this one for free and have it fall apart if I had got the v2 hardback and gone to a store to get my free v2 booklet. The fact I got it "free" with a purchase just makes the problem with the binder more bearable.

What the hell were you doing in that 15minutes? Jumping on it?

I have had one book fall apart on me in 25 years and that was the original RT hardback which I got 24 years ago.

I ordered mine from http://www.waylandgames.co.uk last Friday. still says "awaiting stock" on my order :(

Okay so I read up to Page 159 and then I saw the binding start to crack apart. No pages have fallen out yet but now I read it like I read my comic books - partially open.

Skriker wrote:I am curious what people are specifically doing to their books, though. I have had mine for a couple weeks now and keep poring through it and enjoying all the decent example pictures and such and my binding is still fully intact. Not a single page is loose or falling out...hrm...

You just jinxed yourself.



I've had two pages come loose. The only other Battlefront book that I've had issues with is Fortress Europe.

notprop wrote:What the hell were you doing in that 15minutes? Jumping on it?

I have had one book fall apart on me in 25 years and that was the original RT hardback which I got 24 years ago.

My copy of that is solid as a rock. My V3 hasn't died yet, but then it hasn't been used as a reference yet, only browsed once or twice.

Well, for rite now no problems with mine,but i am careful with it.I do not put extra strss on the binding,like forcing it to lay flat.I have read mine twice and have used it for a couple of games.The other copies i obtained for my other players seems to be doing fine.

I don't understand all of the issues you guys are having with the rule book. I've put mine through hell, and the binding is still fine. Maybe I just lucked out.

Just got my mini rulebook today from the Warstore. I am impressed with the size, I knew it would be large, but it is more than two times thicker than the 2nd edition mini rulebook!

On the binding, I have had no problem, but I have been careful to only half open the book when reading it. I would not suggest forcing it open all the way, as it seems like it would definitely lose pages that way.

Overall, I like the content of the book, but the binding definitely seems sub-par, and I am likely going to have it spiral bound like most other people because of this.

Contact BF customer service.

Got the confirmation of "photo and reciept and we will send you a 12.50 blister."

now I just have to find my reciept, damn it.

Shotgun wrote:Contact BF customer service.

Got the confirmation of "photo and reciept and we will send you a 12.50 blister."

now I just have to find my reciept, damn it.

Same. Damn.

I would have gotten it bound away, just so I could lay it on a table easily enough, but, yeah. Free blister.

To be honest, I'm fine with paying with my own money to get this spiral bound.

There was nothing entitling me to getting a free V3 rulebook anyway other than them putting it out.

What I'm really more upset about is battlefront's complete silence on updating the older hardcover compilation books that are not old at all, and already cover a vast majority of the war.

If they didn't update these expensive books, then my local store and friends would basically be stuck with out of date books that they had bought only recently.

Vertrucio wrote:To be honest, I'm fine with paying with my own money to get this spiral bound.

There was nothing entitling me to getting a free V3 rulebook anyway other than them putting it out.

What I'm really more upset about is battlefront's complete silence on updating the older hardcover compilation books that are not old at all, and already cover a vast majority of the war.

If they didn't update these expensive books, then my local store and friends would basically be stuck with out of date books that they had bought only recently.

I feel your pain iam wanting to buy the D day books but,how long are they going to be good.Considering they are out of date now.

I had no problems paying my own money, and made that clear in my email to BF. The book was free, and a spiral bound book is much easier to use at the table.

What I do have is the shoddy nature of their bindings in general. Of the six soft bound books I owned that were not mini rule books, 4 have let go of pages with Cobra and FE being still good. wait, I have 7 sb books, but have only owned Cassino for less than a month.

My copy of North Africa is good, but my copy of Eastern Front has its days numbered. Haven't picked up GW yet and that is primarily because of the 4 friends that I know that have the book, 2 of them have lost pages.

I mentioned this in my email and thier reply was "we don't see a failure rate that would indicate to us that we need to change our practice".

Shotgun wrote:Haven't picked up GW yet and that is primarily because of the 4 friends that I know that have the book, 2 of them have lost pages.

I mentioned this in my email and thier reply was "we don't see a failure rate that would indicate to us that we need to change our practice".

Grey Wolf? That's surprising. You're the first person I've heard from that's reported binding problems with it. I haven't seen a single complaint on the official forums about the binding on Grey Wolf or Red Bear, and people there typically have no problem mentioning that the binding is giving out on their books.



As for the Out of Date issue that others are mentioning...

Grey Wolf and Red Bear are fully V3 compatible. I expect Battlefront to release update information for the other books shortly after the hardbound version of V3 goes on sale, but that's just guesswork on my part.

I have had my Grey Wolf book for 2 months now and since I am building a Panzekompanie, that section is threatening to come apart as I can already see down to the bindings. My observation of the Grey Wolf binding is it is the sewn type binding and if it comes apart, it would come out in sections where the stich goes through and not by the page like the mini rulebook. The mini rulebook binging is a thermal bind with glue and once the glue fails, the book comes apart by the page.

YAY just received mine today, I must say Im impressed. I dont have any falling pages.

Just to put a line under this one, I got my FoW V3 MRB bound today. I have to give a shoutout to Staples they did a fantastic job.
Details here:
http://not2oldtowargame.wordpress.com/2012/03/09/flames-of-war-mini-rulebook-bound/

Shotgun wrote:Contact BF customer service.

Got the confirmation of "photo and reciept and we will send you a 12.50 blister."

now I just have to find my reciept, damn it.

I'm gone to tear mine apart. Hope that Paypal invoice from Maelstrom will suffice.

Mine should be coming this weekend! I got it from the Warstore with a bottle of Vallejo paint.

_Tim?

CainTheHunter wrote:

Shotgun wrote:Contact BF customer service.

Got the confirmation of "photo and reciept and we will send you a 12.50 blister."

now I just have to find my reciept, damn it.

I'm gone to tear mine apart. Hope that Paypal invoice from Maelstrom will suffice.

I thought the idea was that you sent them a scan of the receipt for having the book rebound and they gave you credit for a blister?


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Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:Mine should be coming this weekend! I got it from the Warstore with a bottle of Vallejo paint.

_Tim?

I ordered some scenery. FoW interests me, even if I'm unlikely to find time to play it this decade.

Got my mini rulebook today. About 15 pages fell out when I looked through the first time

Going to get it spiral bound ASAP.

_Tim?

How are you guys getting your books spiral bounded? I live in Canada, where should I go to get my book bounded.

danli7 wrote:How are you guys getting your books spiral bounded? I live in Canada, where should I go to get my book bounded.

I took it to Kinkos (well, FedEx now that they bought Kinkos) and said "can you spiral bind this and laminate the covers?" 15 minutes and $10 later I had mine spiral bound.

danli7 wrote:How are you guys getting your books spiral bounded? I live in Canada, where should I go to get my book bounded.

Find a document copying/printing chain and they can usually do it for a small fee. In the US Fedex/Kinkos is one of the bigger ones that does it. Don't know if they have a presence as Kinkos in Canada, though.

Skriker

A lot of my pages have now fallen out...sad I am, but I cannot complain, it was free and I have much more to look forward to.

I am happily pleased to report that my book is still intact, even after 2 full league days with the book sitting upside and open next to me at the table. I am keeping an eye on it though...first look at pages coming out and spiral binding it is. Might spiral bind it anyway since the spirals are good for convenience and keeping a specific page open in the book.

Skriker

Yes,i am having more binding problems.My mini rulebook is still good,but now my pages are falling out of my Fortress Europe book.It is to the point now where i am going to be spiral binding my books and pdf scanning them in to my computer ,so that i may put them on a e reader.

Balance wrote:

CainTheHunter wrote:

Shotgun wrote:Contact BF customer service.

Got the confirmation of "photo and reciept and we will send you a 12.50 blister."

now I just have to find my reciept, damn it.

I'm gone to tear mine apart. Hope that Paypal invoice from Maelstrom will suffice.

I thought the idea was that you sent them a scan of the receipt for having the book rebound and they gave you credit for a blister?

Actually, I sent them a photo of the book and a copy of the reciept and a list of three 12.50 blisters I would have interest in recieving.

About four days later I got my BT-42 in the mail. I think kicked myself cause I should have asked for a Marder II instead.

Point is, there was no "credit" invovled.

Ah. I was wondering what CainTheHUnter meant by using a Maelstrom release, unless Maelstrom is doing book-binding nowadays... Which they might be, as far as I know.

Balance wrote:Ah. I was wondering what CainTheHUnter meant by using a Maelstrom release, unless Maelstrom is doing book-binding nowadays... Which they might be, as far as I know.

I just read the post about giving blisters away and got the idea that BF were doing this if their book fell apart. I missed the point about doing re-binding first. But in case You were wondering - I did not tear my book apart . Btw, it is still good - maybe I am lucky or just being careful with my books.

Update. No, I was wrong. It really starts getting apart and I am only around page 50 now.

Booo! Mine just fell apart after about 30 days. My flgs has completely sold out so looks like i'll have to wait until Battlefront issues some more full size rulebooks in May.

Cwen wrote:Booo! Mine just fell apart after about 30 days. My flgs has completely sold out so looks like i'll have to wait until Battlefront issues some more full size rulebooks in May.

Just get the book spiral bound, BF will send you a $12.50 blister of your choosing if you send them a copy of the receipt for binding.

I am more than a little amused that my book is *still* intact, and that is even after a month and a half of league game sessions with the book laying open face down with the pages open. Still haven't lost any pages...weird...

Skriker

Mine is still good.But i do not leave it open when we game.I just down loaded the new summmary sheet and use that.