This is a thread to post all the stupid things people have said about music.I'll start. Today on the bus Cher was playing on the radio and some kid in the back said," Dude, this is like Shirley Temple."
The district band instructor (speaking to me while my mother was nearby)...
"The clarinet would be a good fit for you"
My mother 2 weeks later...
"No, you can not quit, you have to stick with band for the rest of the year!"
My mother at the start of the next year...
"No, you can not quit, you have to stick it out 2 more years!"
Me after 2 years...
"I HATE BAND! I am going to make ear-splitting squeeking noises in every concert infront of all the other parents until you let me quit! Trust me I know enough now (after 2 years) to be dangerious!"
...and thats the story of how I got into and out of band.
Frazzled wrote:Gaga is a good singer, and innovative.
Why does no one understand that she's just a Madonna Clone?
Also, Bruno Mars and Taylor Swift are both failures to me; Bruno Mars is pathetic ("Baby, keep in mind all the sacrifices I'm making!" "I would be doing the same if I was your parent's, but baby, they just don't understand us!", and Taylor Swift is pretty much a go ahead for stalker girls everywhere ("You belong with ME!" "I know I haven't talked to you in two years, but I'm here at your doorstep now....")
Frazzled wrote:Gaga is a good singer, and innovative.
she is good. but she started to rely on shock value and nonsensical videos
Like Alejandro.
And now she isnt shocking anymore, she is just boring.
She get's points for being able to sing, and honestly, from what I've heard about her (not her stunts, her) she seems decent enough. But she has just taken it way over the top.....
Slarg232 wrote:She get's points for being able to sing, and honestly, from what I've heard about her (not her stunts, her) she seems decent enough. But she has just taken it way over the top.....
Frazzled wrote:Don't forget the Police I'll be watching you.
Erm, the Police song is called "Every breath you take.". Some other two-bit R&B act did "I'll be watching you" using samples and riffs from a number of sources.
From a comment on a Rush video on youtube: "I dont know why anyone would listen to this crapola? why not Listen to some Justin Beiber and hear some real tallent?" - SuperMrBieber
Needless to say, took her apart in three seconds.
My response: "You clearly have no idea what real talent is if you even begin to compare Rush to Justin Bieber. Take your comment and replace "Justin Bieber" with "Rush". They actually play their instruments themselves, aren't autotuned, and have been around for 30 years. They must be doing something right!"
"My music is better than your music, so nerrrrr!"
Or any variant of the above.
Musical snobbery is annoying at the best of times; if you don't like something, fine, but have a reason for not liking it other than "it's not the genre I listen to most so it must be terrible."
Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:"My music is better than your music, so nerrrrr!"
Or any variant of the above.
Musical snobbery is annoying at the best of times; if you don't like something, fine, but have a reason for not liking it other than "it's not the genre I listen to most so it must be terrible."
Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:"My music is better than your music, so nerrrrr!"
Or any variant of the above.
Musical snobbery is annoying at the best of times; if you don't like something, fine, but have a reason for not liking it other than "it's not the genre I listen to most so it must be terrible."
Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:"My music is better than your music, so nerrrrr!"
Or any variant of the above.
Musical snobbery is annoying at the best of times; if you don't like something, fine, but have a reason for not liking it other than "it's not the genre I listen to most so it must be terrible."
My Friend: Slipnkot is better than any Thrash Metal Band.
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Joey wrote:
Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:"My music is better than your music, so nerrrrr!"
Or any variant of the above.
Musical snobbery is annoying at the best of times; if you don't like something, fine, but have a reason for not liking it other than "it's not the genre I listen to most so it must be terrible."
Snrub wrote:Anything made after 1999 is worthless gak. Be it bands/solo artists, albums, Genres, etc, whatever.
90's Punk was the greatest era of any music ever. Don't agree?
so So Long and Thanks for all the Shoes you like, but War on Errorism is a no-no?
No Substance but not The New America?
The Gang's All Here but not Sing Loud, Sing Proud?
God damn dude what's wrong with you.
Beiber represents what is wrong with the music industry. Marketability of image and life. While many who deserve the spotlight but don't get it because they are not marketable are thrown to the wayside.
Not to mention im bloody tired of love songs. It is the first thing anyone makes.
Metallica turning down Les Claypool (although i'm glad they did, it would have been too much wasted talent)
I also had a debate with someone who claimed Mike Patton is an average singer and has never done anything good outside of FNM! I continued to laugh and put them in thier place.
Joey wrote:
so So Long and Thanks for all the Shoes you like, but War on Errorism is a no-no?
No Substance but not The New America?
The Gang's All Here but not Sing Loud, Sing Proud?
God damn dude what's wrong with you.
What's wrong with So Long and Thanks for All the Shoes?
Anyone who says pop or rap is the voice of the new generation.
Also the Bieber quote were he said he was like his generations Kurt Cobain.... When I heard that I was hopping he ment he was going marry Courtney Love and then kill himself....
I heard someone once liken Foster The People's "Pumped Up Kicks" to Pearl Jams "Jeremy", saying it was just as good. I swiftly throttled the life out of them.
I remember someone saying that '90s punk was the greatest period in music history. I laughed. Then I realised that person may have been serious and I was sad.
@ MGS - A lot of it is down to the increasing presence of digital instrumentation in pop music, and not just that pop music which is ostensibly 'electronic' in stylistic outlook. The problem with digital musical sound is that it is often PERFECTLY in tune, and the human voice isn't - create a backing track using wholly digitised musical elements, and you'll have no choice but to tune the vocals, so that they don't sound out of tune.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh wait, do you mean vocoder-esque tuning? Yeah, I'm not a fan of that either.
Ok you've got me pipped on the Bad Religion stuff. Really can't argue there.
Albatross wrote:I remember someone saying that '90s punk was the greatest period in music history. I laughed. Then I realised that person may have been serious and I was sad.
Ok obviously my taste in music is my own and whether or not its the greatest music ever is subjective. I was mearly playing on the opinion that alot of people hold of "my genre of music is the greatest and all others suck". I don't think like this at all. While yes i am a punk at heart, i A) listen to punk from many different eras. B) listen to other forms of music as well. Its not uncommon to hear me listening to various types of metal, rock, a little bit of rap/hiphop, and on the rare occasion techno.... Hell as long as its not jazz or Justin Beiber/Rebecca Black then i would most likely listen to it without objection.
In short I wasnt being serious when i wrote that first post. I was taking the piss out silly childish people who can't see that the many and varied styles of music are all just as (subjectively) good as each other.
MeanGreenStompa wrote:I hate autotune. I despise it. I don't understand it's popularity at all and it makes me angry and sad.
Autotune, for me, is just another tool in creating musical fusion, but it honestly isn't something to be relied upon exclusively (Black Eye Peas, Keisha are examples of this).
Also, some pretty good stuff was made available during the early 2000's, mostly around 2000-2002.
Albatross wrote:You fail to see an issue with declaring that the 'era' of NOFX, Green Day, Blink 182 and Rancid was the greatest period in pop music?
I mean, if you like it that's up to you... But the greatest EVER?!
Do behave.
NOFX - Tbh don't know them to well.
Blink 182 - Couple of good songs. Didn't like em all the much.
Green Day - Anything before American Idiot was good. Anything after? Well.....
Rancid - Whats wrong with Rancid?
Albatross wrote:Even real punk?
What do you class as real Real punk? Stuff from the 70's/80's?
inb4: Ramones, Clash, Sex pistols, etc.
Necroshea wrote:>>Mentions 90's punk
>>Doesn't even hint at The Offspring
...wat
Yeah 90's punk WAS the greatest. I'll take it over anything.
Can't tell.... are you saying Offspring are good or bad?
Im tired of this. Maybe because i havent ever been in love or a relationship but im tired of love songs. They seem to be the default for anyone wanting to make a song fast.
Love is something im bloody sick of, it everywhere.
Sometime i would like a great song about depression, anger pain and lonliness become popular.
I like all punk. And Alby, arguing semantics? Why does there have to be a competition? I prefer the newer Offspring stuff that sounds like Dexter wasn't drunken slurring everything, but many like the garageness of the older, believing that it lends authenticity to it's image. It took me a while to accept it, but Green Day has managed to capture the spirit of punk (look at the lyrics) in a bit more swallowable pop-rock capsule. They started a freaking riot at Woodstock; that's way more cred than sounding amateur and unpolished. Hopefully my inebriation has not spoiled my point.
Dont like it when people belittle some of the more extreme forms of music. For example Death Metal, Take a band like meshuggah who are closer to Jazz Fusion structurally than Metal core. Because both have kick drums in them ignorant people lump them in the same 'angry shouting' bucket.
The other day i was listening to Nihal's excellent Radio 1 review show and a lamb of god song was up for review. Now i am not a lamb of god fan but when Nihal asked some horrid little snot off 'Skins' if he liked their brand of Groove metal and was answered with 'what groove?!' i was angered. A groove is not the sole province of an Afro'd Black dude with a bass guitar.
Unlike most people here i actually like modern production, i think autotune when embraced openly can make for some awesome vocals and i like the production on alot of the current pop songs. The Unsubtle Grandeur of Katy Perry's 'ET' being a particular favourite.
Dubstep is for girls. I am actually serious, 16-24 year old girls (the ones most of us are after ) seem to embrace certain types of music. A few years ago it was Emo now it's dubstep. Hence why Skrillex's brand of toothless flanging (in the musical sense lol) is so popular amongst females. As he has cashed out his emo chips to score more 'tang in the dubstep scene.
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:I like all punk. And Alby, arguing semantics? Why does there have to be a competition? I prefer the newer Offspring stuff that sounds like Dexter wasn't drunken slurring everything, but many like the garageness of the older, believing that it lends authenticity to it's image. It took me a while to accept it, but Green Day has managed to capture the spirit of punk (look at the lyrics) in a bit more swallowable pop-rock capsule. They started a freaking riot at Woodstock; that's way more cred than sounding amateur and unpolished. Hopefully my inebriation has not spoiled my point.
I'm not sure what it is.... That you like pop-punk? Good for you. I personally think it's juvenile.
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Perkustin wrote:Dont like it when people belittle some of the more extreme forms of music. For example Death Metal, Take a band like meshuggah who are closer to Jazz Fusion structurally than Metal core.
Meshuggah are not a jazz fusion band, in fact saying that they are, based on the fact that they use complex rhythmic devices, chromaticism and non-traditional song-structure is about as ignorant as stating that something is metal-core because it contains 'kick-drums' and 'angry shouting'.
You get this sort of thing a lot in metal - the fans tend to want to cultivate some sort of cachet for themselves by distancing themselves from metal's inseparable association with pop music by claiming that the music is 'symphonic' or 'actually closer to jazz'. It's silly and inaccurate.
'Complex rhythmic devices, chromaticism and non-traditional song-structure'
Isnt that Jazz? Jazz doesnt need to have saxophones.
EDIT Metal-core is again a whole different beast usually having Simpler 'shredding' riffs and often anthemic 'clean' vocals in a distinct chorus. Just because i dont like it personally doesnt mean i dont appreciate that it is different from say Black metal.
Albatross wrote: @ MGS - A lot of it is down to the increasing presence of digital instrumentation in pop music, and not just that pop music which is ostensibly 'electronic' in stylistic outlook. The problem with digital musical sound is that it is often PERFECTLY in tune, and the human voice isn't - create a backing track using wholly digitised musical elements, and you'll have no choice but to tune the vocals, so that they don't sound out of tune.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh wait, do you mean vocoder-esque tuning? Yeah, I'm not a fan of that either.
Yeah? I mean that horrible warbling robot noise.
Like everyone 'singing' on this piece of filth.
As though they are all using a 'simon says' for a microphone.
I seem to remember hearing and being incredibly irritated by it first on this old Cher song. I'm sure it's been around longer, perhaps not as emphasised, but this was the start of my ongoing suffering.
Frazzled wrote:Don't forget the Police I'll be watching you.
Erm, the Police song is called "Every breath you take.". Some other two-bit R&B act did "I'll be watching you" using samples and riffs from a number of sources.
alarmingrick wrote:
Threads over. Ya'll go on home now....
No, sadly there are a number of dead horses that Dakka OT is contractually obligated to beat into the ground in this thead. So sit back and enjoy the "witty" banter...
Albatross wrote:Meshuggah are not a jazz fusion band, in fact saying that they are, based on the fact that they use complex rhythmic devices, chromaticism and non-traditional song-structure is about as ignorant as stating that something is metal-core because it contains 'kick-drums' and 'angry shouting'.
You get this sort of thing a lot in metal - the fans tend to want to cultivate some sort of cachet for themselves by distancing themselves from metal's inseparable association with pop music by claiming that the music is 'symphonic' or 'actually closer to jazz'. It's silly and inaccurate.
Alright chill mate. I wasn't stating it like it was a law of the cosmos or something. I wasn't saying Meshuggah were a Jazz Fusion band or a Metal Core band one way or the other. Hell they could be Proto County Funk, still not gonna give a toss.
Albatross wrote:Meshuggah are not a jazz fusion band, in fact saying that they are, based on the fact that they use complex rhythmic devices, chromaticism and non-traditional song-structure is about as ignorant as stating that something is metal-core because it contains 'kick-drums' and 'angry shouting'.
You get this sort of thing a lot in metal - the fans tend to want to cultivate some sort of cachet for themselves by distancing themselves from metal's inseparable association with pop music by claiming that the music is 'symphonic' or 'actually closer to jazz'. It's silly and inaccurate.
Alright chill mate. I wasn't stating it like it was a law of the cosmos or something. I wasn't saying Meshuggah were a Jazz Fusion band or a Metal Core band one way or the other. Hell they could be Proto County Funk, still not gonna give a toss.
You did actually say they were closer to Jazz Fusion than standard metal so Alby (a music student and singer/songwriter) was within his rights to call you out on it.
Albatross wrote:Meshuggah are not a jazz fusion band, in fact saying that they are, based on the fact that they use complex rhythmic devices, chromaticism and non-traditional song-structure is about as ignorant as stating that something is metal-core because it contains 'kick-drums' and 'angry shouting'.
You get this sort of thing a lot in metal - the fans tend to want to cultivate some sort of cachet for themselves by distancing themselves from metal's inseparable association with pop music by claiming that the music is 'symphonic' or 'actually closer to jazz'. It's silly and inaccurate.
Alright chill mate. I wasn't stating it like it was a law of the cosmos or something. I wasn't saying Meshuggah were a Jazz Fusion band or a Metal Core band one way or the other. Hell they could be Proto County Funk, still not gonna give a toss.
Fair enough. I thought we were having a discussion, as opposed to just saying 'that's great' or 'that sucks'.
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:I like all punk. And Alby, arguing semantics? Why does there have to be a competition? I prefer the newer Offspring stuff that sounds like Dexter wasn't drunken slurring everything, but many like the garageness of the older, believing that it lends authenticity to it's image. It took me a while to accept it, but Green Day has managed to capture the spirit of punk (look at the lyrics) in a bit more swallowable pop-rock capsule. They started a freaking riot at Woodstock; that's way more cred than sounding amateur and unpolished. Hopefully my inebriation has not spoiled my point.
Would you say "You're gonna go far, kid" is new or old?
Perkustin wrote:'Complex rhythmic devices, chromaticism and non-traditional song-structure'
Isnt that Jazz?
Some forms of jazz, sure. But those elements are also present in prog-rock, math-rock, western art (or 'Classical') music and, as already discussed, some types of metal, such as tech-metal.
An acquaintance of mine said that Green Day was a much better band than Nirvana. I disagree with that statement. If I say anything more radical, I'm afraid I'll be struck with terrible backlash from the internet. Call the police before my opinions are ridiculed.
In all seriousness, Green Day's okay, but it's not on the same level as Nirvana, both in the sense that Nirvana, and that Nirvana is grunge, while Green day is more punk.
moom241 wrote:An acquaintance of mine said that Green Day was a much better band than Nirvana. I disagree with that statement. If I say anything more radical, I'm afraid I'll be struck with terrible backlash from the internet. Call the police before my opinions are ridiculed.
In all seriousness, Green Day's okay, but it's not on the same level as Nirvana, both in the sense that Nirvana, and that Nirvana is grunge, while Green day is more punk.
I've never really understood the love for Nirvana so I'm going to have to go with Greenday.
corpsesarefun wrote:You did actually say they were closer to Jazz Fusion than standard metal so Alby (a music student and singer/songwriter) was within his rights to call you out on it.
I wasn't actually agreeing or disagreeing with perkustin. I was only typing what he wrote because i was trying to get to where Albatross was at on the whole Jazz Fuions/Metal Core thing. I couldnt how the statement needed explaining. I can see though that my post was badly written. It came off like i was stating it as fact when i wasn't.
Albatross wrote:Fair enough. I thought we were having a discussion, as opposed to just saying 'that's great' or 'that sucks'.
Mate I thought we were having a discussion too. Who ever said 'thats great/that sucks'?
moom241 wrote:An acquaintance of mine said that Green Day was a much better band than Nirvana. I disagree with that statement. If I say anything more radical, I'm afraid I'll be struck with terrible backlash from the internet. Call the police before my opinions are ridiculed.
In all seriousness, Green Day's okay, but it's not on the same level as Nirvana, both in the sense that Nirvana, and that Nirvana is grunge, while Green day is more punk.
Its kinda unfair to compare the two bands isnt it? Nirvana essentially kick started the whole Grunge genre. Greenday, when alls said and done, are just another Punk band are they not? Don't get me wrong I like both bands. I wont knock one over the other. But comparing the two?
I miss good Black rock bands like Living Color and Fishbone, even Lenny was fine, but Black rock bands are so rare now. I also miss when hip hop/rap wasn't all bitch's and blink, what is really sad is that today's hip hop kids don't even know who Public Enemy was and why Chuck D may have been one of the most important rappers ever. I don't even like rap, but I loved Public Enemy, Chuck d's voice with the bombsquad laying down the tracks that actually had a message. His use of Flavor Flav as a foil was a brilliant call that most people miss. It's too bad that Flava is the only part of that band that is still around. Eck.
Anything now a days that has to with "bitches and Patron" "Bitches in da club" or "Baby, come on I want get in your pants" or "My girlfriend is a rancid bitch"
You know, that stuff.
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Foid wrote:Im so sorry but i have to post this..... This thread reminds me of this vid......
DickBandit wrote:Anything now a days that has to with "bitches and Patron" "Bitches in da club" or "Baby, come on I want get in your pants" or "My girlfriend is a rancid bitch"
You know, that stuff.
To true....
I myself prefer Black, Gothic and Gothic Synphonic bands. right now i am listening to Nightwish century child..... Back when Tarja was still with the band. Back when they were good. most pop or rap or hiphop today is gak in my eyes and i am pleased to say i hate it. apart from EminEm-hes actualy half way good. But most of it is about sex or disrespecting girls or anotgher fething love song and frankly i prefer to listen to people whom dont have to be auto tuned and have all the instumentals done for them.
Record Exec: Yes, Leona Lewis covering Hurt is an excellent idea.
Every NIN and Jonhny Cash fan in the world: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
warpcrafter wrote:There is no 90's punk. Punk DIED in 1979 when The Sex Pistols were signed to a recording contract.
The root of true punk is an honest non-conformist attitude. Punk is a dedication to the DIY mentality of playing music that does not bow to trends and the whims of the manstream music machine.
I. Many artists with various sound and styles are more punk in attitude then all the green days of the world who propagate a tired, shopping mall sanitized stereotype of punk.
Many bands are called "punk" and many strive to look "punk" and "sound punk", but are in fact not actually "punk" at all, but bastardized scenester "punks" caught up in the mainstream/pop culture definition of punk.
Shopping at Hot Topic does not a punk make, and little babies with "faux-hawks" sort of saddens me...
That's ugly, but not as ugly as when I heard that hack from Staind cover Comfortably Numb. I walked out of the concert at that point (and I wasn't there for Staind anyway).
daedalus wrote:That's ugly, but not as ugly as when I heard that hack from Staind cover Comfortably Numb. I walked out of the concert at that point (and I wasn't there for Staind anyway).
I was there for Breaking Benjamin, but more specifically because the girl I was seeing at the time wanted me there. Going through the list of acts that they have, I notice that they always come up with an interesting knack for having one band I'd be really interested in seeing, and most of the bands I'd be interested in avoiding like the plague. Explains why I've not been back there since.
Andrew1975 wrote:I miss good Black rock bands like Living Color and Fishbone.
The Rolling Stones don't count?
Are the rolling stones Black?
It was a joke (sort of):
Read up on the rolling stones. Their musical roots/inspiration are in black soul and blues music which they have readily talked about and has been documented. They revere the old black blues musicians, etc.
That being said a band like In Living Colour where seen as a novelty "Oh my god black guys playing guitar based rock music?!?" when in fact what we know as rock & roll was spawned from the bossom of black blues guitarists and their music.
So in fact while rap may be seen as the music of choice of today's urban black youth, blues based guitar and by association rock & roll is really black culture's creation and the genesis for most of modern rock/metal music today (which has been mostly co-opted by non-black musicians).
Johnny-Crass wrote:When i think of blakc rock bands I think of the Bad Brains...
I think of Chuck Berry...
I understand the idea, but it's not what I was referring to, there have been plenty of good Black rock bands. Widen your definition of black music and you have some of my favorites, Desmond Deker, Toots and the Maytals.
But I really miss the hard funk sound that came from bands like Fishbone, Living Color, Bad Brains, 247spies.
Monster Rain wrote:The most asinine thing I've heard about music is when someone says that "live performances suck" or some variation of that theme.
It signifies pretty much everything I hate about humanity.
ALL live performances don't suck; bands that are used to being autotuned their entire music career who then do a live performance suck.
I HATE most live albums, but there are a handful of them that I like at least as much as the studio albums. The Suburban Legends live album is good, as is Face the Promised Land by Counting Crows.
Well, yeah, I'm not saying that all live performances are good. Not by a long shot.
To me, there's just an energy to a live event that can't be matched on a studio album. Two of my favorite albums of all time are actually live recordings, Live Rust and Get Yer Ya-Ya's out.
Albatross wrote:How can you say that the Spice Girls were unsuccessful because they were successful as a group, but not as individuals? That makes no sense.
back in the day I would have loved to have spent some solo time with Baby Spice...
Albatross wrote:How can you say that the Spice Girls were unsuccessful because they were successful as a group, but not as individuals? That makes no sense.
back in the day I would have loved to have spent some solo time with Baby Spice...
My cousin has met her. Apparently she's absolutely smoking in real life, and a very nice lady.
Albatross wrote:How can you say that the Spice Girls were unsuccessful because they were successful as a group, but not as individuals? That makes no sense.
back in the day I would have loved to have spent some solo time with Baby Spice...
My cousin has met her. Apparently she's absolutely smoking in real life, and a very nice lady.
Albatross wrote:How can you say that the Spice Girls were unsuccessful because they were successful as a group, but not as individuals? That makes no sense.
I dunno. someone here made a referrence to Lady Gaga as a 'failure' for some reasons so I might use the same reasosn to Judge Spice Girls.
the 'reunion' didn't even last long enough to finalize the concert tour though.
too bad by the time of their heyday, it was the Kylie Minogue's "decline" .. she only made a successful return in 2000 (a big gambit. by then). quite a contrary. it was the end of Spice Girls . as a band.
^Heavily blue screened video^
^Use of Classic filming techniques, with a few digital enhancements. alot more of art^
dunno if this thing contribute to the attitude that Posh Spice had on Kylie Minogue ? a year later there was a big 'catfight match' that lasts two rounds
Albatross wrote:How can you say that the Spice Girls were unsuccessful because they were successful as a group, but not as individuals? That makes no sense.
back in the day I would have loved to have spent some solo time with Baby Spice...
My cousin has met her. Apparently she's absolutely smoking in real life, and a very nice lady.
Lucky.
Not lucky, everyone in the UK knows each other, and usually in the biblical sense.
Albatross himself has enjoyed him some David Beckham, Prince William, and the Queen; all at the same time (incest bonus).
Ah the sweetness that is Kylie, I remember her on neighbours. Had the biggist school boy crush on her, hell I wanted to be her. As for her music "meh" not my sort of thing but I will conceed this Confide in me has to be my fav tune of hers. Not bad for a tomboy from Ramsay Street
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Albatross wrote:
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Albatross wrote:How can you say that the Spice Girls were unsuccessful because they were successful as a group, but not as individuals? That makes no sense.
back in the day I would have loved to have spent some solo time with Baby Spice...
My cousin has met her. Apparently she's absolutely smoking in real life, and a very nice lady.
Lucky.
Not lucky, everyone in the UK knows each other, and usually in the biblical sense.
Albatross himself has enjoyed him some David Beckham, Prince William, and the Queen; all at the same time (incest bonus).
They are all atheistic bisexuals after all.
Thats why we make all the plastic toy solders every one buys
Ribon Fox wrote:Ah the sweetness that is Kylie, I remember her on neighbours. Had the biggist school boy crush on her, hell I wanted to be her.
As for her music "meh" not my sort of thing but I will conceed this Confide in me has to be my fav tune of hers. Not bad for a tomboy from Ramsay Street
Albatross wrote:How can you say that the Spice Girls were unsuccessful because they were successful as a group, but not as individuals? That makes no sense.
back in the day I would have loved to have spent some solo time with Baby Spice...
My cousin has met her. Apparently she's absolutely smoking in real life, and a very nice lady.
Lucky.
Not lucky, everyone in the UK knows each other, and usually in the biblical sense.
Albatross himself has enjoyed him some David Beckham, Prince William, and the Queen; all at the same time (incest bonus).
They are all atheistic bisexuals after all.
*Ahem* Extreme Royalist here.
I shall forgive you this ONCE-next time...... well there better not be a next time.
and what is wrong with Bisexuals? personaly i have no problem with them.
remilia_scarlet wrote:anything by the insane clown posse or anyone using their record label.
Johnny-Crass wrote:This X 1000
My hatred of Juggleos is limitless
I don't see how thay are a musical failure and think the whole 'Juggalo' fanbase gets a bad rep for no reason. Ok, there may be the exceptions but I have a group of friends who are all Juggalos and are all really awesome, down to earth guys, there is no reason atall for them to be stereotyped into whatever people judge them to be. I think the hatred is a bit of a cliche really.
ICP are a rap band, there are plenty of other rap artists out there, many other bands who wear masks or face-paint and countless bands that have musical content far worse. Fwiw I am myself a big ICP, Twiztid, Dark Lotus, ABK etc fan.
Bloodfever wrote:
I don't see how thay are a musical failure and think the whole 'Juggalo' fanbase gets a bad rep for no reason. Ok, there may be the exceptions but I have a group of friends who are all Juggalos and are all really awesome, down to earth guys, there is no reason atall for them to be stereotyped into whatever people judge them to be. I think the hatred is a bit of a cliche really.
ICP are a rap band, there are plenty of other rap artists out there, many other bands who wear masks or face-paint and countless bands that have musical content far worse. Fwiw I am myself a big ICP, Twiztid, Dark Lotus, ABK etc fan.
The fact that they self-identify with ICP warrants the reputation they receive. Believe it or not, people don't judge you by some magical inner light your mom might think you have. They judge you by the fact that you're listening to vulgar shock music and idolizing clown rappers, at times to disturbing extent. If it looks like a steaming pile, and it smells like a steaming pile, then you're not going to bother to step in for a taste before you decide to label it.
I also hate them because they're science-hating closet Christians.
Bloodfever wrote:
I don't see how thay are a musical failure and think the whole 'Juggalo' fanbase gets a bad rep for no reason. Ok, there may be the exceptions but I have a group of friends who are all Juggalos and are all really awesome, down to earth guys, there is no reason atall for them to be stereotyped into whatever people judge them to be. I think the hatred is a bit of a cliche really.
ICP are a rap band, there are plenty of other rap artists out there, many other bands who wear masks or face-paint and countless bands that have musical content far worse. Fwiw I am myself a big ICP, Twiztid, Dark Lotus, ABK etc fan.
The fact that they self-identify with ICP warrants the reputation they receive. Believe it or not, people don't judge you by some magical inner light your mom might think you have. They judge you by the fact that you're listening to vulgar shock music and idolizing clown rappers, at times to disturbing extent. If it looks like a steaming pile, and it smells like a steaming pile, then you're not going to bother to step in for a taste before you decide to label it.
I also hate them because they're science-hating closet Christians.
It's just bandwagon bullying. They are an easy target and it's 'cool' to hate them so people do. So it's bad to self-identify and feel like part of a community, for lack of a better word?
ICP and other 'juggalo' bands are not the 1st and will not be the last bands to make 'vuglar shock music', alot of metal bands do it ALOT worse but don't get singled out because of it. If people can't handle the content or decide to take it seriously then that's their fault, but it doesn't mean it's bad or wrong.
It's the same as us being stereotyped for wargaming, yes, there may be some that conform to that stereotype, but the vast majority of us do not and do not warrent to be.
Also, they are not 'closet christians', they openly admit they believe in god, and to hate them because of this just makes you a bigot.
Cobain death = fail because we were subjected to the Foo Fighters, who used to be good but now pump out the same crap every year.
Phil Anselmo+the wrong drugs = fail because he became an even bigger dick and imploded Pantera, the best rock band to come out of the late 80's early 90's.
And of course the death of Dimebag was a music fail for we lost a true great and at least top 20 if not top 10 greatest guitarist of all time (imho) to some bitch who was pissed about Pantera and shot the wrong guy.
I hate them because they don't like science, not necessarily because of their Christian views. I pity them for their Christian views. There is a difference, and yes, I can spot it from up on my high horse.
And, no, sadly as you say, they're not original. I'm well aware that there have been shock bands both before and after them. I know there is some outright disgusting metal out there. I like some vulgar punk bands. The thing you're missing though is the metal heads might wear a Pantera t-shirt, some chains, and (maybe) some eyeliner, if they're feeling out there. And the more extreme of them, with piercings, ball bearings implanted dermally, and other things are absolutely freak-shows too. They lack branding however. They're not a population.
"Juggalos" get the target painted on them so viciously simply because they're the ones who painted it there. It's branding. They're not a band, they're a lifestyle. Most importantly, they're an EXTREME. You can't compare them to metalheads. You can't compare them to wargamers. Sure, the wargamer evokes the smelly neckbeard stereotype, but that's less true than it ever has been, and the half of us with any sense of humor laugh at it self-depricatingly. As you're proving yourself here, you are actually serious about it. The analogue would be the guy who ACTUALLY THINKS he's a Khorne Berserker and dresses like it every day, reciting hymnals and oaths to the dark gods.
Do this: Google Image Search the following words, and then look at the pictures of human beings. Look at wargamers, and then look at metalheads. First are basically normal guys with a bend toward the nerdy. The second are a bunch of guys with long hair and usually wearing black. I work with people who dress like that, and I have a bigboy job. Now GIS for Juggalo. Now imagine that you're Joe Average, and you see each one of the three walk past. Which one would you have the problem with?
You say that you see no reason for which they receive a bad reputation.
I'd like to think I have provided you with those now. Whether they're legitimate to you or not is immaterial. People will judge you based upon impressions, and if you carry yourself like a freak, that's how you'll be treated.
Lint wrote:
And of course the death of Dimebag was a music fail for we lost a true great and at least top 20 if not top 10 greatest guitarist of all time (imho) to some bitch who was pissed about Pantera and shot the wrong guy.
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Actually he wasn't pissed about Pantera breaking up: he was crazy and thought that the band members could hear his thoughts and that they were laughing at him.
Lint wrote:Cobain death = fail because we were subjected to the Foo Fighters, who used to be good but now pump out the same crap every year.
who used to be good but now pump out the same crap every year.
pump out the same crap every year.
every year.
Echoes, Silence, Patience and Grace came out in 2007, Wasting Light came out in 2011. Other albums came out in 1995, 1997, 1999, 2002 and 2005. That definitely isn't "Every Year".
Hey now, They are quite good. It's just that they have no.....
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Diversity! They have no diversity in their songs. I highly doubt that you could find another band that can play as skillfully as them, they just don't know how to NOT play all the notes.
That said, the only song of theirs I like is Through the Fire and the Flames.
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daedalus wrote: The analogue would be the guy who ACTUALLY THINKS he's a Khorne Berserker and dresses like it every day, reciting hymnals and oaths to the dark gods.
*Quickly Mr. Clean Magic Erasers the Marks of the Gods on his floor.*
Castiel wrote:From a comment on a Rush video on youtube: "I dont know why anyone would listen to this crapola? why not Listen to some Justin Beiber and hear some real tallent?" - SuperMrBieber
Needless to say, took her apart in three seconds.
My response: "You clearly have no idea what real talent is if you even begin to compare Rush to Justin Bieber. Take your comment and replace "Justin Bieber" with "Rush". They actually play their instruments themselves, aren't autotuned, and have been around for 30 years. They must be doing something right!"
???WTF!!! someone actually tried to compare Rush to Bieber? Saying Bieber was better....wow someones been into the kool-aid. We should start with a little Tom Sawyer, come with a right hook (The Twilight Zone) then the uppercut (Closer to the heart) =o]
Castiel wrote:From a comment on a Rush video on youtube: "I dont know why anyone would listen to this crapola? why not Listen to some Justin Beiber and hear some real tallent?" - SuperMrBieber
Needless to say, took her apart in three seconds.
My response: "You clearly have no idea what real talent is if you even begin to compare Rush to Justin Bieber. Take your comment and replace "Justin Bieber" with "Rush". They actually play their instruments themselves, aren't autotuned, and have been around for 30 years. They must be doing something right!"
???WTF!!! someone actually tried to compare Rush to Bieber? Saying Bieber was better....wow someones been into the kool-aid. We should start with a little Tom Sawyer, come with a right hook (The Twilight Zone) then the uppercut (Closer to the heart) =o]
This sort of thing isn't that uncommon. Yeah sure it's not music, but there are Twilight fans who think that Harry Potter ripped them off because of Sirius Black being able to change into a dog....
Why does there have to be a competition? I prefer the newer Offspring stuff that sounds like Dexter wasn't drunken slurring everything, but many like the garageness of the older, believing that it lends authenticity to it's image. It took me a while to accept it, but Green Day has managed to capture the spirit of punk (look at the lyrics) in a bit more swallowable pop-rock capsule. They started a freaking riot at Woodstock; that's way more cred than sounding amateur and unpolished. Hopefully my inebriation has not spoiled my point.
) seem to embrace certain types of music. A few years ago it was Emo now it's dubstep. Hence why Skrillex's brand of toothless flanging (in the musical sense 
