Pre-Heresy: Ultramarines Legion. The largest of the Legions, and led by a Primarch that even the Emperor considered to have vision and abilities greater than might be expected from a Primarch. They were also arguably the most civilized of the Legions, and considering the Imperium at the time of the Great Crusade, that's saying something.
Post-Heresy: Blood Ravens. Very enigmatic Chapter hinted to be the survivors of the loyalist Fourth Fellowship of the Thousand Sons Legion. Also very intelligent individuals, relative to the Imperium's mindset post-Heresy, even if it does get them into trouble with more puritanical Chapters and Imperial organizations.
Doesn't really matter to me. Part of being a Space Marie is having no fear and being, essentially, completely resigned to dying eventually. So it doesn't really matter a whole lot which side I belong too.
A wanderer. They actually care about who dies and they don't want their battle brothers to die at all. Too valuable of an asset. (only 520 of them left and are spread out.) Hint don't be a large chapter.
Asherian Command wrote:A wanderer. They actually care about who dies and they don't want their battle brothers to die at all. Too valuable of an asset. (only 520 of them left and are spread out.) Hint don't be a large chapter.
All Astartes care when one of their brothers die...
I would have to say space marine and not chaos, Space marines get all the shinny gear and the chaos have to take theirs off the dead bodies of space marines. And that whole being hunted thing doesn't seem all that great.
Of course I would be an ultra marine space marine. There is something about the blue armor and the poka dot under wear. Standard issue of course.
PapaPiggy wrote:I would have to say space marine and not chaos, Space marines get all the shinny gear and the chaos have to take theirs off the dead bodies of space marines. And that whole being hunted thing doesn't seem all that great.
Of course I would be an ultra marine space marine. There is something about the blue armor and the poka dot under wear. Standard issue of course.
PapaPiggy wrote:I would have to say space marine and not chaos, Space marines get all the shinny gear and the chaos have to take theirs off the dead bodies of space marines. And that whole being hunted thing doesn't seem all that great.
Of course I would be an ultra marine space marine. There is something about the blue armor and the poka dot under wear. Standard issue of course.
"Look to your underwear, brothers!"
Hey Its hard to think of the space marines with out a sense of humor. At least the brown strikes in the underies only come after they face a wall of orks, or the new GK codex.
Durza wrote:Deserters are hunted down and killed. There's a reason they usually end up joining a Chaos devoted faction.
Nah, I'd be a great deserter. I'd hide in a cave until everyone forgot about me (probably a couple years), then I'd go into a local town and say, "IM AN AANGEL OF DEATH OF THE EMPRAH DO WHAT I SAY OR ILL BURNINATE YOU!" Then I'd be the towns peaceful overlord and make sure they obeyed all the rules so that Inquisitors/other Space Marines/Arbites would be called in and say, "Hey, that's that deserter guy. Kill his face!" I've planned it all out.
Death Guard sorcerer for me! A legion of super pals who all spread gifts of Nurgle to the whole world and an entire dimension of super happy plague spreaders like myself to call upon to help when I need them. I would be the happiest thing in the universe
Red Comet wrote:Definitely a Space Marine. I wouldn't want to kill stuff for the sake of it...I hate CSM for being a bunch of selfish jerks.
Most CSM don't kill just for the sake of killing. Here are the different reasons different Legions sometimes kill.
Black Legion-Kill for revenge, loot, the sake of killing or/and the favor of Chaos
Word Bearers-Kill for the favor of Chaos
Night Lords-Kill for revenge, loot or/and the sake of killing
Alpha Legion-Kill for no clear reason whatsoever because no one knows why they do anything
Death Guard-Kill for revenge and/or the favor of Nurgle
Thousand Sons-Kill for revenge, knowledge and/or the favor of Tzeentch
World Eaters-Kill for the sake of killing and/or the favor of Khorne
Emperor's Children-Kill for pleasure, revenge, the sake of killing and/or the favor of Slaanesh
See, there are plenty of reasons to kill. In fact, some Legions (esp. the Black Legion) kill and fight for pretty much the same reasons as loyalists (minus the Chaos bit). They're both extremely violent, uncompromising and psychotic factions in a galaxy spanning war with no end in sight. Really, if you replace the Chaos Gods with the Emperor and get rid of the loot part you pretty much get most loyalists. But, CSM are, on average, more evil than SM, but not by as much as you'd think.
Red Comet wrote:Definitely a Space Marine. I wouldn't want to kill stuff for the sake of it...I hate CSM for being a bunch of selfish jerks.
Most CSM don't kill just for the sake of killing. Here are the different reasons different Legions sometimes kill.
Black Legion-Kill for revenge, loot, the sake of killing or/and the favor of Chaos
Word Bearers-Kill for the favor of Chaos
Night Lords-Kill for revenge, loot or/and the sake of killing
Alpha Legion-Kill for no clear reason whatsoever because no one knows why they do anything
Death Guard-Kill for revenge and/or the favor of Nurgle
Thousand Sons-Kill for revenge, knowledge and/or the favor of Tzeentch
World Eaters-Kill for the sake of killing and/or the favor of Khorne
Emperor's Children-Kill for pleasure, revenge, the sake of killing and/or the favor of Slaanesh
See, there are plenty of reasons to kill. In fact, some Legions (esp. the Black Legion) kill and fight for pretty much the same reasons as loyalists (minus the Chaos bit). They're both extremely violent, uncompromising and psychotic factions in a galaxy spanning war with no end in sight. Really, if you replace the Chaos Gods with the Emperor and get rid of the loot part you pretty much get most loyalists. But, CSM are, on average, more evil than SM, but not by as much as you'd think.
So Imperium is just like all of those except in favour of anyone, it's just for the emperor, the imperium, and the chapter/primarch
Night Lord Chosen or Death Guard Lord. I would want to be a chosen to make anyone and everyone carp their pants. I would be a lord to have a big scythe of nasty
BlaxicanX wrote:Doesn't really matter to me. Part of being a Space Marie is having no fear and being, essentially, completely resigned to dying eventually. So it doesn't really matter a whole lot which side I belong too.
So what, I would want to live, and maybe kill a person in the occasional drunken-brawl with my power fist.
Emperor's Pointy Sticks would be my chapter of choice. Sure, i would lose almost every battle but the chapter appears to be quite fun ( unless i am the paint test marine ).
KingDeath wrote:Emperor's Pointy Sticks would be my chapter of choice. Sure, i would lose almost every battle but the chapter appears to be quite fun ( unless i am the paint test marine ).
I would be a loyalist tech marine, not sure what chapter though.
I'm a very techy person, any work I would have to do would be a peice of cake, the praying might get in the way though, so I might try chaos for a bit.
A son of the Lion, A Dark Angel. The glorious first legion, warriors steeped in knightly tradition, utterly intractable and well versed in ancient technologies.
IronChaos wrote:Heresy inside heresy, that's my favourite.
Yo, I heard you like heresy, so i put my heresy in your heresy, so you can commit heresy while you commit heresy.
You could have made that very wrong with the change of a suffix
fix'd
I was actually thinking:
Yo dawg, i heard you like heretics, so I put some heretics in your heretics, so you can commit heresy while you commit heresy
You can commit heresy very easily these days... never expect the Spa-... er, the Imperial Inquisition! But even they can't grasp the true form of heresy inside heresy.
IronChaos wrote:You can commit heresy very easily these days... never expect the Spa-... er, the Imperial Inquisition! But even they can't grasp the true form of heresy inside heresy.
Its pure win is beyond even tha Emprah's knowledge.
IronChaos wrote:You can commit heresy very easily these days... never expect the Spa-... er, the Imperial Inquisition! But even they can't grasp the true form of heresy inside heresy.
Its pure win is beyond even tha Emprah's knowledge.
Hmm... would Abaddon disowning Horus count as heresy inside heresy? I mean, something like that would be considered heresy be the Imperials, and possibly even more so by Chaos, where the gods are unlikely to appreciate someone attempting to ignore the champion they just blessed with dark powers. So he's commiting heresy while leading the heresy against the Imperium. And then he commits heresy again by not acknowledging Calgar as his spiritual liege, and again by not obeying the codex astartes. So that's heresy in a heresy in a heresy while he does another heresy just after the first one.
IronChaos wrote:You can commit heresy very easily these days... never expect the Spa-... er, the Imperial Inquisition! But even they can't grasp the true form of heresy inside heresy.
Its pure win is beyond even tha Emprah's knowledge.
Hmm... would Abaddon disowning Horus count as heresy inside heresy? I mean, something like that would be considered heresy be the Imperials, and possibly even more so by Chaos, where the gods are unlikely to appreciate someone attempting to ignore the champion they just blessed with dark powers. So he's commiting heresy while leading the heresy against the Imperium. And then he commits heresy again by not acknowledging Calgar as his spiritual liege, and again by not obeying the codex astartes. So that's heresy in a heresy in a heresy while he does another heresy just after the first one.
I told you heresy inside heresy was the best one Also, Sindri could count as heresy inside heresy too. He's a heretic psyker for the Imperium, a Chaos sorcerer, but he's also a very ranked guy on a warband that apparently is very devoted to Khorne, so he's commiting heresy for his mates...
IronChaos wrote:You can commit heresy very easily these days... never expect the Spa-... er, the Imperial Inquisition! But even they can't grasp the true form of heresy inside heresy.
Its pure win is beyond even tha Emprah's knowledge.
Hmm... would Abaddon disowning Horus count as heresy inside heresy? I mean, something like that would be considered heresy be the Imperials, and possibly even more so by Chaos, where the gods are unlikely to appreciate someone attempting to ignore the champion they just blessed with dark powers. So he's commiting heresy while leading the heresy against the Imperium. And then he commits heresy again by not acknowledging Calgar as his spiritual liege, and again by not obeying the codex astartes. So that's heresy in a heresy in a heresy while he does another heresy just after the first one.
I told you heresy inside heresy was the best one Also, Sindri could count as heresy inside heresy too. He's a heretic psyker for the Imperium, a Chaos sorcerer, but he's also a very ranked guy on a warband that apparently is very devoted to Khorne, so he's commiting heresy for his mates...
Heresy inside heresy is truly the best flavour of heresy. Its right next to chocolate-chip changeling, and caramel Khorne.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Worse pseudo-joke ever.
IronChaos wrote:You can commit heresy very easily these days... never expect the Spa-... er, the Imperial Inquisition! But even they can't grasp the true form of heresy inside heresy.
Its pure win is beyond even tha Emprah's knowledge.
Hmm... would Abaddon disowning Horus count as heresy inside heresy? I mean, something like that would be considered heresy be the Imperials, and possibly even more so by Chaos, where the gods are unlikely to appreciate someone attempting to ignore the champion they just blessed with dark powers. So he's commiting heresy while leading the heresy against the Imperium. And then he commits heresy again by not acknowledging Calgar as his spiritual liege, and again by not obeying the codex astartes. So that's heresy in a heresy in a heresy while he does another heresy just after the first one.
I told you heresy inside heresy was the best one Also, Sindri could count as heresy inside heresy too. He's a heretic psyker for the Imperium, a Chaos sorcerer, but he's also a very ranked guy on a warband that apparently is very devoted to Khorne, so he's commiting heresy for his mates...
Heresy inside heresy is truly the best flavour of heresy. Its right next to chocolate-chip changeling, and caramel Khorne.
It's even better when an Inquisitor finds a heresy, he burns it only to discover there was another heresy inside, and when he declares Exterminatus on it he finds another one below, and so on... At the end, he discovers the whole universe is a heresy, because of the existence of Chaos and its demons and the other alien races. Even the Emperah is a heresy for him because he betrays death. At this point, two things might happen: his head explodes, or he's enroled by the Angry Marines so he can unleash his anger to the universe.
IronChaos wrote:You can commit heresy very easily these days... never expect the Spa-... er, the Imperial Inquisition! But even they can't grasp the true form of heresy inside heresy.
Its pure win is beyond even tha Emprah's knowledge.
Hmm... would Abaddon disowning Horus count as heresy inside heresy? I mean, something like that would be considered heresy be the Imperials, and possibly even more so by Chaos, where the gods are unlikely to appreciate someone attempting to ignore the champion they just blessed with dark powers. So he's commiting heresy while leading the heresy against the Imperium. And then he commits heresy again by not acknowledging Calgar as his spiritual liege, and again by not obeying the codex astartes. So that's heresy in a heresy in a heresy while he does another heresy just after the first one.
I told you heresy inside heresy was the best one Also, Sindri could count as heresy inside heresy too. He's a heretic psyker for the Imperium, a Chaos sorcerer, but he's also a very ranked guy on a warband that apparently is very devoted to Khorne, so he's commiting heresy for his mates...
Heresy inside heresy is truly the best flavour of heresy. Its right next to chocolate-chip changeling, and caramel Khorne.
It's even better when an Inquisitor finds a heresy, he burns it only to discover there was another heresy inside, and when he declares Exterminatus on it he finds another one below, and so on... At the end, he discovers the whole universe is a heresy, because of the existence of Chaos and its demons and the other alien races. Even the Emperah is a heresy for him because he betrays death. At this point, two things might happen: his head explodes, or he's enroled by the Angry Marines so he can unleash his anger to the universe.
IronChaos wrote:You can commit heresy very easily these days... never expect the Spa-... er, the Imperial Inquisition! But even they can't grasp the true form of heresy inside heresy.
Its pure win is beyond even tha Emprah's knowledge.
Hmm... would Abaddon disowning Horus count as heresy inside heresy? I mean, something like that would be considered heresy be the Imperials, and possibly even more so by Chaos, where the gods are unlikely to appreciate someone attempting to ignore the champion they just blessed with dark powers. So he's commiting heresy while leading the heresy against the Imperium. And then he commits heresy again by not acknowledging Calgar as his spiritual liege, and again by not obeying the codex astartes. So that's heresy in a heresy in a heresy while he does another heresy just after the first one.
I told you heresy inside heresy was the best one Also, Sindri could count as heresy inside heresy too. He's a heretic psyker for the Imperium, a Chaos sorcerer, but he's also a very ranked guy on a warband that apparently is very devoted to Khorne, so he's commiting heresy for his mates...
Heresy inside heresy is truly the best flavour of heresy. Its right next to chocolate-chip changeling, and caramel Khorne.
It's even better when an Inquisitor finds a heresy, he burns it only to discover there was another heresy inside, and when he declares Exterminatus on it he finds another one below, and so on... At the end, he discovers the whole universe is a heresy, because of the existence of Chaos and its demons and the other alien races. Even the Emperah is a heresy for him because he betrays death. At this point, two things might happen: his head explodes, or he's enroled by the Angry Marines so he can unleash his anger to the universe.
I'd rather be some nobody on a backwater planet that nobody pays any attention to.
Nice, peaceful, and boring. Pleasantly boring.
Where the most excitement I get is when I play a videogame.
I'd live like that for a good 30-40 years or so.
Then I'd get drafted into the Imperial Guard, get a bit of training, go into my first battle, soil myself in fear, and die following orders in some pointless but ultimately crucial manner - crucial when the other hundreds of dead Guardsmen beside me are considered.
Edit: Stupid reality of the 40k universe screwing up my plans for a long and pointless life.
I'd rather be some nobody on a backwater planet that nobody pays any attention to.
Nice, peaceful, and boring. Pleasantly boring.
Where the most excitement I get is when I play a videogame.
I'd live like that for a good 30-40 years or so.
Then I'd get drafted into the Imperial Guard, get a bit of training, go into my first battle, soil myself in fear, and die following orders in some pointless but ultimately crucial manner - crucial when the other hundreds of dead Guardsmen beside me are considered.
Edit: Stupid reality of the 40k universe screwing up my plans for a long and pointless life.
Way more interesting, and have cooler bling. The bitter traitor from the time of myth who consorts with dark powers out of desperation and bitter pride and fights out of a deep sense of hatred, disgust, a sense of personal betrayal and above all, spite. Or the lost and damned slave to darkness that fell from glory and now commits unfathomable acts in the name of the Dark Gods after a long slow slide, or lightning crash, into dark servitude.
That sounds far more interesting and fun than the relatively boring loyalists who simply march on with the tired "honor/duty" thing or the "FOR THE GLORIOUSLY HONORABLE HONOR OF GLORY AND GLORIOUSLY GLORIOUS HONOR OF HONORABLE GLORY" sillyness that the loyalist SM's have all too frequently become.
Well since the Last Chaos Space Marine codex release really weakened the CSM army and really hosed it, and when the Space Marine codex came out that it not only made Space Marines better then the new Chaos Space Marines, it made them better then the Old Chaos Space Marines. I fear Loyalist Space Marines a bunch because of all the advantages they have, and their complete lack of disadvantage, at least Loyalist Space Marines are not as broken as the Grey Knights but then no codex has ever or will ever be as broken as a Grey Knight army can be if done up right.
daniel79 wrote:Well since the Last Chaos Space Marine codex release really weakened the CSM army and really hosed it, and when the Space Marine codex came out that it not only made Space Marines better then the new Chaos Space Marines, it made them better then the Old Chaos Space Marines. I fear Loyalist Space Marines a bunch because of all the advantages they have, and their complete lack of disadvantage, at least Loyalist Space Marines are not as broken as the Grey Knights but then no codex has ever or will ever be as broken as a Grey Knight army can be if done up right.
I'd be loyalist raven guard.
not always under attack from something or other (though a waagh! is coming), hit & run, strength isn't everything, plus you're basically a genetically engineered super-human ninja.
heresy-era, probably the same (though only 3% of us survived, that 3% sat chillin' for a year or so, did a few hit & run attacks on stuff with minimal casualties, but most of is was guard duty while waiting for the apothecaries/techpriests to rebuild the chapter.
they're the ones who nearly finished off my chapter... grrrr...
shrike wrote:
TheRobotLol wrote:Pre-heresy, I would want to be Iron warriors, siege warfare, FTW!
they're the ones who wiped out most of my chapter... grrrr...
Wow, your chapter got punched in the face by pretty much EVERYONE, didn't they?
During the heresy, yeah, pretty much.
Iron warriors, word bearers and whoever Konrad Curze's legion is shot about 76,000 raven guard in the back, then the remaining 3000 retreated to rebuild the chapter and the alpha legion sabotaged it, but failed to kill the rest of them
TheRobotLol wrote:I may be a follower of Khorne, and a good friend of Slaanesh, but that scared me to my very soul...
The ways of Ponies and Matt Ward are beyond you.
Heretic.
This is sounding more and more like a cult... But one I approve of
So yeah, a GK for me. Say what you will, Traitors, We have the fluff backing of the great and powerful Ward. We're pretty much fething bullet proof, Especially If Draigo is hanging around.
TheRobotLol wrote:I may be a follower of Khorne, and a good friend of Slaanesh, but that scared me to my very soul...
The ways of Ponies and Matt Ward are beyond you.
Heretic.
This is sounding more and more like a cult... But one I approve of
So yeah, a GK for me. Say what you will, Traitors, We have the fluff backing of the great and powerful Ward. We're pretty much fething bullet porff, Especially If Draigo is hanging around.
Face the wrath of that which cannot be matched;
KHORNATE, DAEMON POSSESSED, CRASSUS ARMOURED TRANSPORT.
NEVA!! KHORNE SHALL EAT YOUR PRECIOUS HERESY AND SPIT 
Heresy for the heresy god!
