Hello Dakka!

Game Empire in Pasadena and Game Empire in San Diego are running a new long-format GW league, the Warhammer Masters Series. The Southern Conference leagues for both 40k and WHFB are already underway in San Diego, and registration is open for the Northern Conference is open now for both 40k and WHFB!

The Northern Conference leagues run from March 1 through June 24, with a final head-to-head showdown between the Northern and Southern Conference on July 15!

The winner of the Series final in July walks away with the title of Warhammer Masters Series Champion, a tall, shiny trophy, and $500 cash! And there's additional prizes for Best Painted army and Best Sportsman!

The full rules for the Northern Division's Warhammer Fantasy Series are up now on the Game Empire Pasadena forums, and can be found here:

http://gameempirepasadena.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=52

The 40k rules will be up in the same place in about a day or so.

Little old yours truly is overseeing the whole shebang. I am also running the 40k half of the series personally, breathing down the necks of the finalists in the fancy-dancer upstairs showcase area of the new Game Empire Pasadena (and we even have Ismael on deck so that our live stream of the final rounds will be in both English and Spanish! ), and overseeing Davis in running the WHFB side, so if you have any questions or want to sign up, let me know here or on the store forums, or PM me, or give a call to the store... I'm pretty easy to get a hold of!

-Dis.

Sounds like fun, do we have ti start a fresh army for this? I just finished up my Dark Eldar for use in the Broadside Bash last week, and would love to use them.

It sounds like fun. Sign me up!

I'm in. Sign me up Travis.

I'm absolutely in. This sounds amazing, as always Travis, if you need administrative help with the league (since this sounds pretty involved) let me know what I can do.

Can't wait.

Here are the current San Diego standings for 40k http://www.gameempire.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=5482

And for fantasy
http://www.gameempire.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=5459

Dave_Fay wrote:Here are the current San Diego standings for 40k http://www.gameempire.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=5482

And for fantasy
http://www.gameempire.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=5459

The only problem I see is you don't have a Conference named Russ. How can you have Magnus without Russ?

I'm in! But how can SD have standings already??? Cheaters!

OverwatchCNC wrote:

Dave_Fay wrote:Here are the current San Diego standings for 40k http://www.gameempire.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=5482

And for fantasy
http://www.gameempire.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=5459

The only problem I see is you don't have a Conference named Russ. How can you have Magnus without Russ?

Russ could be on the northern side?

I was debating naming all the Northern Conference divisions after Street Sharks characters, but I overruled myself in the interest of the theme over a joke that Dok hates!

One conference should be Alphamegon...

But please, no rowboat.

The sucky thing about starting march 1st is that I will be driving to the BAO. Are the rules for pasadena going to be the same as the rules for San Diego?


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disdainful wrote:I was debating naming all the Northern Conference divisions after Street Sharks characters, but I overruled myself in the interest of the theme over a joke that Dok hates!

That would be Jawdacious!

Dok wrote:The sucky thing about starting march 1st is that I will be driving to the BAO. Are the rules for pasadena going to be the same as the rules for San Diego?


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disdainful wrote:I was debating naming all the Northern Conference divisions after Street Sharks characters, but I overruled myself in the interest of the theme over a joke that Dok hates!

That would be Jawdacious!

I amended the schedule today to reflect the BAO. There's an extra week of signups and the Series meetings are on the weekend following BAO.

I'm trying to accommodate as many players as possible, so I shifted the initial dates a bit to help do so.

The rules for the Northern Conference are just about finished, they should be up tonight in the GE Pasadena forums; I'll announce it here when it's done. The general format is the same as the Southern Conference, but there are some differences in the minutia. Mostly that we'll be playing a Savage Worlds / 3rd edition / Dystopian Wars hybrid up here, and I think they're playing boring 5th ed down there!

Cool fool, sounds like a good time. I have more questions for you, but I'll save them for irl

disdainful wrote:

Dok wrote:The sucky thing about starting march 1st is that I will be driving to the BAO. Are the rules for pasadena going to be the same as the rules for San Diego?


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disdainful wrote:I was debating naming all the Northern Conference divisions after Street Sharks characters, but I overruled myself in the interest of the theme over a joke that Dok hates!

That would be Jawdacious!

I amended the schedule today to reflect the BAO. There's an extra week of signups and the Series meetings are on the weekend following BAO.

I'm trying to accommodate as many players as possible, so I shifted the initial dates a bit to help do so.

The rules for the Northern Conference are just about finished, they should be up tonight in the GE Pasadena forums; I'll announce it here when it's done. The general format is the same as the Southern Conference, but there are some differences in the minutia. Mostly that we'll be playing a Savage Worlds / 3rd edition / Dystopian Wars hybrid up here, and I think they're playing boring 5th ed down there!

Soooo... Forgeworld Apoc 2e units can be used? Or am I supposed to bring my Prussian robot to counts as a Contemptor dread? I hope a lurkers head just exploded.

One quick serious edit. I noticed the final game for fantasy is June 24. Is the the same for 40k? I ask because I will be in Austin for Wargamescon that weekend, i think Blackmoor will be too. If it is I will still play in the league but you can give my spot to someone else should I win our conference. Just curious, I am pretty amped about this idea.

Whoops! I just saw the Wargames Con hiccup, thanks OW!

It actually works out perfectly, I shifted the starting dates a bit to accommodate BAO, so I just shifted the ending dates a bit to do the same for Wargames Con. It all comes out in the wash; WMS keeps the same schedule, just shifted a week forward.

Fingers crossed nothing else is going on on any of the dates I've got posted!

OverwatchCNC wrote:
Or am I supposed to bring my Prussian robot to counts as a Contemptor dread? I hope a lurkers head just exploded.

Only if I can use this as my caestus assualt ram...

Ok everyone, my fingers are suitably bloodied and my eyes crossed and blurry, but the full rules for the 40k side of the Warhammer Masters League are up now in the GE Pasadena forums.

http://gameempirepasadena.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=52

Check it!

What time is the meeting on the 11th going to be?

Forget lurkers, my head just exploded from the awesomeness that is this series. Congrats on putting together, what looks like could be, the best 40k gaming series I have seen in a LONG time.

I posted a question about cover on the GEP boards. Should I reiterate it here or is that board going to be the primary source of info for the series?

I was planning on being at a tournament at Thou Shalt Game in Temecula on the 11th.

After 3 years of tournament Purgatory I am like a kid in a candy store.

Blackmoor wrote:I was planning on being at a tournament at Thou Shalt Game in Temecula on the 11th.

After 3 years of tournament Purgatory I am like a kid in a candy store.

So... you're coming to my tournament on the 10th, right??

Seriously though, I would like everyone to be there on the 11th for the meeting, but the reality of the world simply won't permit. As long as I see everyone sometime around the start date so I can get information out and so on, it's fine.

I haven't decided on a time yet, probably going to be noonish and take about an hour or so, though.

disdainful wrote:

Blackmoor wrote:I was planning on being at a tournament at Thou Shalt Game in Temecula on the 11th.

After 3 years of tournament Purgatory I am like a kid in a candy store.

So... you're coming to my tournament on the 10th, right??

Seriously though, I would like everyone to be there on the 11th for the meeting, but the reality of the world simply won't permit. As long as I see everyone sometime around the start date so I can get information out and so on, it's fine.

I haven't decided on a time yet, probably going to be noonish and take about an hour or so, though.

My bad, I thought the 11th was a Sat. I can make it on Sunday.

Hey everyone, just a quick note that I've officially amended the schedule and cleaned up some areas of the terrain rules in particular based on some conversations I've had with players.

http://gameempirepasadena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1084

Thanks for all the feedback.

For the thread: The question was raised as to how to handle a new codex release at some point during the series. I'm not sure, but the options range from immediate changeover to no change until the series is finished. While I like the idea of an old, herpy army getting a leg up, I'm not a fan of inconsistencies and lack of understanding potentially skewing results. The moderated approach would be to allow the prospective new book in to the mix after a vetting period and possibly creating a series FAQ for it in the inevitable absence of an official GW faq. Thoughts?

And on a tangential point... is it just me or is GW's release schedule of the last few months been full of fail? Thunderterriers and Tervigons are spiff and all, but I get the feeling that everyone who really wanted them has already made a conversion.

-Dis.

I also came to the same conclusion on the blog. Some of the stuff is cool, but it's mostly just... OK?

Updated 40k San Diego Results.

disdainful wrote:Hey everyone, just a quick note that I've officially amended the schedule and cleaned up some areas of the terrain rules in particular based on some conversations I've had with players.

http://gameempirepasadena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1084

Thanks for all the feedback.

For the thread: The question was raised as to how to handle a new codex release at some point during the series. I'm not sure, but the options range from immediate changeover to no change until the series is finished. While I like the idea of an old, herpy army getting a leg up, I'm not a fan of inconsistencies and lack of understanding potentially skewing results. The moderated approach would be to allow the prospective new book in to the mix after a vetting period and possibly creating a series FAQ for it in the inevitable absence of an official GW faq. Thoughts?

And on a tangential point... is it just me or is GW's release schedule of the last few months been full of fail? Thunderterriers and Tervigons are spiff and all, but I get the feeling that everyone who really wanted them has already made a conversion.

-Dis.

Thanks for all the leg work Dis.

I agree about the releases, at the least they could have thrown the Harpy in there. I would have preferred the Necron 2nd wave seeing as there is NO way I am going to scratch build or kit bash Night/Doomscythes.

I think we should allow a new codex, once we (you ) have made a relevant FAQ.

OverwatchCNC wrote:I think we should allow a new codex, once we (you ) have made a relevant FAQ.

Yeah, most likely what I'll end up going with. I will, of course, take input from all series players on the contents of such a potential FAQ prior to making final decisions.

No unilateral judgments here!

I didnt see anything that said you had to use the same list through the series. You can't change lists between game can you?

Grimgob wrote:I didnt see anything that said you had to use the same list through the series. You can't change lists between game can you?

That is correct. You're stuck with your codex for the duration, but can use any list you want from game to game, including playoff games. In the final showdown games, players must bring one list only.

I see that with $500 on the line half of the San Diego armies are either Grey Knights or Imperial Guard.

I was thinking about playing either Eldar or Demons, but the money would be nice so I am tempted to play my Grey Knights.

Blackmoor wrote:I see that with $500 on the line half of the San Diego armies are either Grey Knights or Imperial Guard.

I was thinking about playing either Eldar or Demons, but the money would be nice so I am tempted to play my Grey Knights.

Surely this is due to GK being the most overpowered codex GW has put out in a decade. We all know that from the 50+ pages of GK OP trolling we've endured lately!

Eldar is a good counter to GK though if the GK players are making use of a lot of psychic powers. Hell, even having to roll 3 dice to make sure their dreads work will ruin their day. Honestly though, I just don't want to go up against your Draigo list

I will be playing GK btw

Blackmoor wrote:I see that with $500 on the line half of the San Diego armies are either Grey Knights or Imperial Guard.

I was thinking about playing either Eldar or Demons, but the money would be nice so I am tempted to play my Grey Knights.

I would seriously consider Eldar if you are expecting that many guard and GK lists. No trolling, I'm serious.

sharkticon wrote:

I would seriously consider Eldar if you are expecting that many guard and GK lists. No trolling, I'm serious.

Eldar are ok vs. Grey Knights, but IG are their worst match-up.

disdainful wrote:

Grimgob wrote:I didnt see anything that said you had to use the same list through the series. You can't change lists between game can you?

That is correct. You're stuck with your codex for the duration, but can use any list you want from game to game, including playoff games. In the final showdown games, players must bring one list only.

Dosnt that open the door for list tailoring vs. specific armys? Like Orks usually do great vs. Grey knights but have a hard time against Palladin armys or going heavy on the flamers vs. Tyranids. Someone could just list tailor to advantage. Also how do you judge the 15 painted models if someone could just use their grey plastic army list the next week after they play the painted list for the deadline.

Grimgob wrote:

disdainful wrote:

Grimgob wrote:I didnt see anything that said you had to use the same list through the series. You can't change lists between game can you?

That is correct. You're stuck with your codex for the duration, but can use any list you want from game to game, including playoff games. In the final showdown games, players must bring one list only.

Dosnt that open the door for list tailoring vs. specific armys? Like Orks usually do great vs. Grey knights but have a hard time against Palladin armys or going heavy on the flamers vs. Tyranids. Someone could just list tailor to advantage. Also how do you judge the 15 painted models if someone could just use their grey plastic army list the next week after they play the painted list for the deadline.

Speaking as a participant in every 40k league GEP has run in the last 5 years (correct me if I am wrong Dis but I think that is an accurate claim) I can say that list tailoring doesn't happen much in our leagues for a few reasons.
1. Many of our collections are extensive so I won't know if my Ork opponent will be playing Kan Wall, BW Rush, or Green Tide.
2. We don't set out our armies prior to the match or the exchange of lists.
3. It is generally frowned upon and therefore we don't do it that much.
List tailoring will be nearly unavoidable on a certain level but is generally negated by the large collections of most of our participants, plus the normal League crew (while uber competitive) seems to eschew list tailoring. The chance of list tailoring doesn't worry me too much tbh.

The painting thing you are correct on except for a few points. The army can't be grey plastic, it must be primed. After another point in the league you must use 15 painted models or forfeit the $15 refund. For paint judging you simply tell Travis when you will be using the list you want judged. I don't foresee too many problems with the system Grimgob but I am sure Dis can address them better than I.

@Shark: Blackmoor is right, when I had my Nurgle IG army still I used to pray for Eldar match ups.

To play devils advocate a bit, with cash on the line I could see the moral restriction of not tailoring going out the window. Maybe everyone should submit 2-3 lists before hand and be limited to those until the playoffs? Or just 2 and have it be warmachine style where you pick your list as you start the match. With their only being 8 games, it's not going to kill us to play normal, but I wouldn't want any accusations of tailoring to cause bad blood in the shop.


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OverwatchCNC wrote:

Blackmoor wrote:I see that with $500 on the line half of the San Diego armies are either Grey Knights or Imperial Guard.

I was thinking about playing either Eldar or Demons, but the money would be nice so I am tempted to play my Grey Knights.

Surely this is due to GK being the most overpowered codex GW has put out in a decade. We all know that from the 50+ pages of GK OP trolling we've endured lately!

Eldar is a good counter to GK though if the GK players are making use of a lot of psychic powers. Hell, even having to roll 3 dice to make sure their dreads work will ruin their day. Honestly though, I just don't want to go up against your Draigo list

I will be playing GK btw

To be fair, the majority of that thread wasn't even talking about grey knights. It was about how sad people are that Tac Marines are so under powered.
I was considering Eldar as well, but I think Casey is going to be borrowing my good stuff, so no eldar for me. Maybe I'll play tau...

Dok wrote:To play devils advocate a bit, with cash on the line I could see the moral restriction of not tailoring going out the window. Maybe everyone should submit 2-3 lists before hand and be limited to those until the playoffs? Or just 2 and have it be warmachine style where you pick your list as you start the match. With their only being 8 games, it's not going to kill us to play normal, but I wouldn't want any accusations of tailoring to cause bad blood in the shop.


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OverwatchCNC wrote:

Blackmoor wrote:I see that with $500 on the line half of the San Diego armies are either Grey Knights or Imperial Guard.

I was thinking about playing either Eldar or Demons, but the money would be nice so I am tempted to play my Grey Knights.

Surely this is due to GK being the most overpowered codex GW has put out in a decade. We all know that from the 50+ pages of GK OP trolling we've endured lately!

Eldar is a good counter to GK though if the GK players are making use of a lot of psychic powers. Hell, even having to roll 3 dice to make sure their dreads work will ruin their day. Honestly though, I just don't want to go up against your Draigo list

I will be playing GK btw

To be fair, the majority of that thread wasn't even talking about grey knights. It was about how sad people are that Tac Marines are so under powered.
I was considering Eldar as well, but I think Casey is going to be borrowing my good stuff, so no eldar for me. Maybe I'll play tau...

The only thing I don't like about list limitation is boredom. I never bring the same list from one tournament to the next because I find it boring, and unless I am preparing for a tournament I don't play the same list on Tuesday nights either. I guess submitting 2-3 lists that you can switch between might be ok but the boredom factor might still set in for me.

I'm not saying specific tailoring to specific units. Im talking about there are pretty good counters in every army and certain things are useless (like Librarians Vs. Orks). like on the Frontline blog they were talking about how Orks do welll in tournaments because people always have to plan for Space marines. But what if you didnt (Like no psychic hood which frees up atleast 100pts for other things but isnt exactly list tailoring). Would that affect the list you write? Maybe you play IG and like two manticors and an exacutioner, but your playing eldar/dark eldar and its really tempting to bring those Hydras youve been wanting to try out. Just sayin...thats all.

OverwatchCNC wrote:
The only thing I don't like about list limitation is boredom. I never bring the same list from one tournament to the next because I find it boring, and unless I am preparing for a tournament I don't play the same list on Tuesday nights either. I guess submitting 2-3 lists that you can switch between might be ok but the boredom factor might still set in for me.

It's only 8 games, man!

Dok wrote:

OverwatchCNC wrote:
The only thing I don't like about list limitation is boredom. I never bring the same list from one tournament to the next because I find it boring, and unless I am preparing for a tournament I don't play the same list on Tuesday nights either. I guess submitting 2-3 lists that you can switch between might be ok but the boredom factor might still set in for me.

It's only 8 games, man!

Maybe I have ADHD ! And it's more if you make it to the playoffs

@ Grimgob if i knew i was playing againt orks with my deathwing i for sure will not be taking Ezekiel for his hood ,and could use those points for 2 preds which would be more useful verse ork than one Librarian.Even a 200 point unit swap can make huge differences in game outcomes.But the real question should be, when does making tactical changes turn into tailoring? Would taking the 2 preds or 2 dreads be tailoring? how about 2 vindicators ? It might not be that drastic of a change but there are certain things you will not have to worry to much about.If you know there will be no psychic defense on the board you might not spend those 20 points for rune(i think they cost 20) on your farseer which could then be spent on bladestorm which wouldnt otherwise be in the list .

azgrim wrote:@ Grimgob if i knew i was playing againt orks with my deathwing i for sure will not be taking Ezekiel for his hood ,and could use those points for 2 preds which would be more useful verse ork than one Librarian.Even a 200 point unit swap can make huge differences in game outcomes.But the real question should be, when does making tactical changes turn into tailoring? Would taking the 2 preds or 2 dreads be tailoring? how about 2 vindicators ? It might not be that drastic of a change but there are certain things you will not have to worry to much about.If you know there will be no psychic defense on the board you might not spend those 20 points for rune(i think they cost 20) on your farseer which could then be spent on bladestorm which wouldnt otherwise be in the list .

Changing your army because of information known about a specifc opponent = tailoring in my book.

There may be varying degrees of it of course but the meta game massively changEs when you know you do not require an all comers list.

List tailoring is an issue. Unfortunately there is no perfect solution.

On the one hand, we leave the field open and let players make any list they want. While this does create the issue that players can tailor lists, the street goes both ways. Each player knows going in who they're going to be fighting, so each has the same ability to plan for what's coming.

On the other, we restrict players to one or a small number of previously established lists. While this reduces or eliminates list tailoring, it creates its own set of problems, not the least of which is a player staring down a bad matchup that they have zero ability to deal with.

I'm more of the mind that the playing field is more even when everyone has the ability to make lists as they see fit for each game, in particular because some codices have a much better ability to make legit 'all-comers' lists than others.

It's something that I'm open to discussion on, of course, and if they series players overwhelmingly wants restricted lists then it will be considered. My concern is that there is, unfortunately, no good compromise. If players are allowed, say, three lists, that gives enough leeway for players to still tailor their lists more than enough.

hrm... Dark Eldar, you say? Looks like I'm playing my list that beats Dark Eldar today! LOL!

Regardless of all that let me know what you guys think.

Grimjob, you're right. This could happen:

Sgt. Gristle: Ten minutes! Drop in ten! Special weps detail, grab your gear!

Private Meat: Hey, sarge. Who're we killin' today?

Sgt. Gristle: We're not after traitor marines today, so put away those backfiring plasmaguns, damnit! Naw, it's green skins. Bust out the napalm and prometheum! It seems that orks have soiled our beloved Emperor's agri-colony Kellogg IV.

Private Meat: Alright, sarge. Three flamers per squad?

Sgt. Gristle: Good call, Meat. Tighten up your gear. We don't want those canisters popping against the bulkhead! Drop in eight!


From a fluff point of view, it makes sense. But few of us angle for fluff ... that I know of.

My DE list is the same pretty much all the time. One TAC list. The only variance is a venom troop choice in or out to adjust to points level. Lances all the time, even though Disintegrators would do me better versus the Armor2+ spam OverwatchCNC runs.

All through last year's Campaign, we frequently scheduled games between players on the weekends, easily allowing time to tweak and tailor ... I didn't as my DE list never altered. I recall that one or two guys might've said something to me like, "I put these powers weps in to deal with your wyches' FNP" or "I wanted more STR6 deal shoot down your venoms and deny your wyches FNP."

I didn't bother me.

If any sort of Check and Balance should be in place, probably a lot of peer pressure and unceasing ball-busting would be in order.

Since when is 11 models out of 40 spamming 2+ saves?

I never bother tailoring lists because I just use leagues as games to hone my tournament lists.

There is nothing you can do about it though. If you think that your opponent is going to list tailor, build a different list from what you normally take to counter this. If they take a lot of flamers when you take orks, take mega-nobs. If you normally take battlewagons, take horde orks etc.

Blackmoor wrote:I never bother tailoring lists because I just use leagues as games to hone my tournament lists.

There is nothing you can do about it though. If you think that your opponent is going to list tailor, build a different list from what you normally take to counter this. If they take a lot of flamers when you take orks, take mega-nobs. If you normally take battlewagons, take horde orks etc.

Thats my problem. I never tailor lists either because I found what I like and only make small changes to tweak it. I do however see a way people could abuse that though. Do softball or bowling leauge teams change the roster half way through the season? Since theres nothing I can do I will just shut up, stop complaining, and just enjoy the 8 games of 40K. Like I said before "jus sayin thats all".

Grimgob wrote:Thats my problem. I never tailor lists either because I found what I like and only make small changes to tweak it. I do however see a way people could abuse that though. Do softball or bowling leauge teams change the roster half way through the season? Since theres nothing I can do I will just shut up, stop complaining, and just enjoy the 8 games of 40K. Like I said before "jus sayin thats all".

Well, complaint noted, and I can assure you, that I won't be tailoring when I face your boyz, sincerely.

Blackmoor & OverwatchCNC, those guys? Oh, yeah. They're gonna get tailored like an italian suit by a fussy, flamboyant, Parisian fashionista.

Brothererekose wrote:

Grimgob wrote:Thats my problem. I never tailor lists either because I found what I like and only make small changes to tweak it. I do however see a way people could abuse that though. Do softball or bowling leauge teams change the roster half way through the season? Since theres nothing I can do I will just shut up, stop complaining, and just enjoy the 8 games of 40K. Like I said before "jus sayin thats all".

Well, complaint noted, and I can assure you, that I won't be tailoring when I face your boyz, sincerely.

Blackmoor & OverwatchCNC, those guys? Oh, yeah. They're gonna get tailored like an italian suit by a fussy, flamboyant, Parisian fashionista.

What did we do? We play gk so automatically we won't need to tailor our lists...

I didn't see this mentioned in the rules, so I might as well ask it here: will geographic location have any impact on divisions / opponents?

I'd love to sign up but the store is approx a 75 minute drive for me (I'm pretty much right in the middle of the North and South stores). It'd be no problem if I have opponents primarily in OC / Long Beach / South LA. But I imagine completing all 8 games would become an issue if all or most of my opponents were over an hour away.

Seriously, I don't think most players should tailor, but I do like the ability to change things up if a few games into the league someone sees that their list just isn't working.

I am in Travis. I Think I will have to bring the Fists, which means Damion will bring wolves to challenge my painting bid.

Paul J.

I've never even played GK@2k. What kind of stuff do you use? Lot's of banishers, right?

Dok wrote:I've never even played GK@2k. What kind of stuff do you use? Lot's of banishers, right?

No no no. Gk @ 2k only works by spamming full kit strike squads with psilencers on foot with 2x brotherhood champions.

Oh, and you'll still win since gk are the most op book gw has put out in a decade.

I better start getting those bro champs then. I heard 2 attacks that you can re-roll on the charge is whats hot on the streets!

nickthewise wrote:I didn't see this mentioned in the rules, so I might as well ask it here: will geographic location have any impact on divisions / opponents?

I'd love to sign up but the store is approx a 75 minute drive for me (I'm pretty much right in the middle of the North and South stores). It'd be no problem if I have opponents primarily in OC / Long Beach / South LA. But I imagine completing all 8 games would become an issue if all or most of my opponents were over an hour away.

Geography will indeed factor into the divisions. I'm going to endeavor to make sure that everyone in a division is within 20-30 minutes of each other.

Google maps is a very handy tool.

Don't stalk me, bro. On topic, can we just sign up at the front and random joe at GE is gonna know what I'm talking about? Or do we need to go to the horse's mouth?

Hey everyone, just a quick note that we are still taking signups for this, and that the meeting for the series is slated for this Sunday from 12-1pm. We'll be going over the rules, giving out rule packets to everyone, and getting information logged.

There's been a bunch of signups at the store, and anyone at the store is fine to pay in with; if it's not me just make sure you hold on to your receipt!

If we get a big turnout for this Saturday's 40k tournament and the majority of the people I have spoken to about joining the series are here then, I'll just disseminate the series info on Saturday and save everyone their Sunday lunch hour and extra driving time....

Come to think of it... if everyone's amenable, I'd be happy to get all the info out on Saturday tournament day, since hopefully most of the players will be here anyway. Let me know what you all think.

disdainful wrote:Hey everyone, just a quick note that we are still taking signups for this, and that the meeting for the series is slated for this Sunday from 12-1pm. We'll be going over the rules, giving out rule packets to everyone, and getting information logged.

There's been a bunch of signups at the store, and anyone at the store is fine to pay in with; if it's not me just make sure you hold on to your receipt!

If we get a big turnout for this Saturday's 40k tournament and the majority of the people I have spoken to about joining the series are here then, I'll just disseminate the series info on Saturday and save everyone their Sunday lunch hour and extra driving time....

Come to think of it... if everyone's amenable, I'd be happy to get all the info out on Saturday tournament day, since hopefully most of the players will be here anyway. Let me know what you all think.

I won't be there Saturday I have a party to go to. But feel free to give out the information, I can get it from you anytime. It's not like we live 100s of miles apart or something.

I just spoke to Sharkticon about it and it looks like I'll be running the Sunday meeting regardless.

So, at this point, whoever can make it on Saturday for the tourney can get set up then, and for everyone who can't make it on Sat we'll be doing the 12-1 meeting Sunday.

I'm compiling lists now, so please shoot me a PM if you haven't already with your name, army, and email so I can start getting things sorted. Thanks!

you guys still haven't started yet?


San Diego is ahead of schedule.


Also when the showdown happen's who's format will we be using?

We kick off this weekend for both 40k and WHFB, unfortunately there was some static about exactly when things were getting launched at the beginning of the year, hence the offset start times.

The Showdown for the first Series will be up here at GE Pasadena, which means our format. I'll be judging, with a couple assistants.

We're going to do up the Luxurious Upstairs Gaming Showcase (tm) nice, and have a panel of commentators up there for the games (en Espanol as well! ) for the live stream. Should be pretty fun.

disdainful wrote:
The Showdown for the first Series will be up here at GE Pasadena, which means our format. I'll be judging, with a couple assistants.

I propose that we use the BAO multiple mission format.

Keep's everyone on the same page.

Dave_Fay wrote:I propose that we use the BAO multiple mission format.
Keep's everyone on the same page.

It will most likely be a multi-mission format, though I like the idea of putting varied weight on the different objectives. One-for-one like BAO provides more of a potential for draws than I'm comfortable with.

Once I've decided what I want the missions for the final showdown to look like I will post them, so everyone knows what to expect.

Hmmm.

For the finals I don't think there should be a varied weight on different objectives.

I'm fine with having the finalists roll up a book mission and deployment. But that leads up to alot of potential rock-paper-scissor situations which the BAO mission format weeds out.

A tie break for the BAO mission could be victory points.

Dave_Fay wrote:Hmmm.

For the finals I don't think there should be a varied weight on different objectives.

I'm fine with having the finalists roll up a book mission and deployment. But that leads up to alot of potential rock-paper-scissor situations which the BAO mission format weeds out.

A tie break for the BAO mission could be victory points.

I have to admit that if VPs are used as a tie breaker than the BAO mission becomes a lot better. I would rather we substitute C&C in the BAO mission for something like table quarters. if we don't go the tie breaker route.

Dave's biased toward the BAO missions, you can tell by his sig!

I do like how they're going to be doing it at the GE San Diego GT later this year, where you at least get half points for tied objectives (which, is kinda like giving the different objectives varying weight, just a little bit ).

We'll see. Thankfully I oversee 40k games in an official capacity constantly, so I have a lot of opportunity to test scenario ideas and theories.

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Regardless of what the mission(s) look(s) like at the end, there will be a clear, established tiebreaker criteria. No draws for the top table!

disdainful wrote:Dave's biased toward the BAO missions, you can tell by his sig!

I do like how they're going to be doing it at the GE San Diego GT later this year, where you at least get half points for tied objectives (which, is kinda like giving the different objectives varying weight, just a little bit ).

We'll see. Thankfully I oversee 40k games in an official capacity constantly, so I have a lot of opportunity to test scenario ideas and theories.

*SUPERMEGAEDIT- - -
Regardless of what the mission(s) look(s) like at the end, there will be a clear, established tiebreaker criteria. No draws for the top table!

That would be a ridiculous outcome.

I'm excited for this business to kick off. I think my BA list that I was testing out saturday is pretty beastly.

Dok wrote:I'm excited for this business to kick off. I think my BA list that I was testing out saturday is pretty beastly.

We'll see. Maybe I should just use my wolves and run Bjorn at you again

Freakin Bjorn... At least this time I would have something besides S8 to deal with him

How many signed up for the LA conference?

Divisions are up. http://gameempirepasadena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1124

Dave_Fay wrote:How many signed up for the LA conference?

Looks like 14.

Jeez. These dudes beat me to my own thread!

Yes, final tally for Northern Conference was 14; fewer than I'd hoped but I talked to a lot of guys over the last month and I heard a lot of lamentations of the intrusions of Real Life (tm), and I can't yet force people to do my bidding, so...

Two full divisions, Bolter and Chainsword, built predominantly by player location, with out-of-division pairings determined randomly.

Results to follow as they develop.

Looking forward to seeing things develop.

How did you do out of division pairings when no one has finished in division?

All random?

San Diego Update

Dave_Fay wrote:Looking forward to seeing things develop.

How did you do out of division pairings when no one has finished in division?

All random?

San Diego Update

The way I understand it was that the out of division were all random.

Random? I was assigned two ork armies!!
...
Um, I'm not complaining, four plus venoms, you know.

Although I do think the "Bolter" division ought to be renamed "Casey gets schooled by So.Cal's best 40k players."

I like what Dis said about the division being hard-core though. Tough buncha bastards, we are.

I'm looking for first blood in the bolter division. Is anyone up for a game tomorrow?

All of the out-of-division pairings were randomly assigned. Keeps things clean and simple throughout the regular season. Now we'll see about getting some numbers to put in Dave's fancy spreadsheet!

Quick update, added in two new players that resulted in a small mix-up of the divisions. New info will go out to league players today, the thread on the GE forums has been updated as well.

http://gameempirepasadena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1124

We are locked in at this point; unless I get enough people wanting to join that could constitute an complete division there will be no more add-ins.

Now if I could only get a damn game in...

Dok, I maybe able to get our out of division match in early Sunday. Contact me with your availability that day and we can see if we can meet up.

Hey Sharkticon, what time are you available during the week? I work pretty close to the Battle Bunker and we might be able to get our game in after work sometime. Let me know as I'm pretty sure its one of ur regular haunts.

I got two major victories in today, How'd everyone else do?

Dok wrote:I got two major victories in today, How'd everyone else do?

Brandon and I drew. Lame.

I eeked out a major by getting my inter division match out of the way this morning. It was a hard fought match against Brothererekose.

OverwatchCNC wrote:

Dok wrote:I got two major victories in today, How'd everyone else do?

Brandon and I drew. Lame.

Ummm, Grey Knights always table daemons... Haven't you heard?

Grimgob wrote:I eeked out a major by getting my inter division match out of the way this morning. It was a hard fought match against Brothererekose.

Nice dude! Too bad I won't get to play you until the semis

Dok wrote:

OverwatchCNC wrote:

Dok wrote:I got two major victories in today, How'd everyone else do?

Brandon and I drew. Lame.

Ummm, Grey Knights always table daemons... Haven't you heard?

Grimgob wrote:I eeked out a major by getting my inter division match out of the way this morning. It was a hard fought match against Brothererekose.

Nice dude! Too bad I won't get to play you until the semis

Ya, if I had been list tailoring; I would have brought Paladins. They would have done much better against his Fate-Crusher build. I hate facing down 23+ Blood Crushers with re-rollable saves!

I came out of the weekend with a major loss, having joined Blackmoor in the ranks of "people beaten by Dok like they owed him money."

I'm gonna add that as a page to my blog, haha

People I've beat like they owe me money!

Dok wrote:I'm gonna add that as a page to my blog, haha

People I've beat like they owe me money!

I am glad I won't be on that page

Give it time

Grimgob wrote:I eeked out a major by getting my inter division match out of the way this morning. It was a hard fought match against Brothererekose.

Well, a non-division loss ain't so bad.

Seriously, I'd been looking forward to a game with Grimgob for a while. Lotsa fun. *The* kind of opponent you don't mind losing to. And it was the kind of game I didn't mind losing. I overreached in an assault mid-game, and couldn't recover, but G had a tough time actually getting the full Major Vic.

At least, that's my spin.

Guys, this weekend I shall be out of town. After that, I'll do some serious WMS scheduling.

Got everyone's info and results, looks like there were some good skirmishes over the weekend.

We are experiencing technical difficulties over here at the store (I wonder if it's bad when the computer sez "windows/system32/config is corrupt or missing?? ) But the good lord saw fit to deliver unto us flash drives, so I'll have the data up for everyone directly.

Dok wrote:Give it time

disdainful wrote:Got everyone's info and results, looks like there were some good skirmishes over the weekend.

We are experiencing technical difficulties over here at the store (I wonder if it's bad when the computer sez "windows/system32/config is corrupt or missing?? ) But the good lord saw fit to deliver unto us flash drives, so I'll have the data up for everyone directly.

That's what happens when you don't pray and put incense on your computer before pressing the on button. PC=Mechanicum circa 41st millenium Mac=Tau. Get a Mac for the greater good of the store.

@overwatch: I don't think I've ever played you in a tournament... have I? I don't recall.

@dis: woot! I'm itching to lay more smack down

Dok wrote:@overwatch: I don't think I've ever played you in a tournament... have I? I don't recall.

@dis: woot! I'm itching to lay more smack down

A long time ago at one of your first GE tournaments. Mostly we've just played league games.

Brothererekose wrote:

Grimgob wrote:I eeked out a major by getting my inter division match out of the way this morning. It was a hard fought match against Brothererekose.

Well, a non-division loss ain't so bad.

Seriously, I'd been looking forward to a game with Grimgob for a while. Lotsa fun. *The* kind of opponent you don't mind losing to. And it was the kind of game I didn't mind losing. I overreached in an assault mid-game, and couldn't recover, but G had a tough time actually getting the full Major Vic.

At least, that's my spin.

Guys, this weekend I shall be out of town. After that, I'll do some serious WMS scheduling.

Tough Time! If you had not over estemated that assault you would have finished off all but some lootas of my army by the end of the match.

OverwatchCNC wrote:That's what happens when you don't pray and put incense on your computer before pressing the on button. PC=Mechanicum circa 41st millenium Mac=Tau. Get a Mac for the greater good of the store.

Yeah... problem is, much like the mechanicus, you can keep a PC running on bubblegum, duct tape, and positive vibes for a good long while, and when it finally does go to the great circuit board in the sky, there's another unpainted rhino-chassis of a machine with welds that are still warm to the touch coming right off the line for a reasonable price. Macs, like Hammerheads, operate like bosses all the way until they get a lascannon through the cockpit, and then you have to hock your XV8's experimental guidance system to cover the cost of a new one!

Not considering at all the problem that then you're a Mac user/Tau player. The machine god does not approve.

Should've painted it red...

The PC "blue-screen of death" is awfully close to Ultramarine color scheme.

Doncha think?

Anyone played anymore games for this league? I am playing Tom for my out of division match this Sunday.

I am playing Andy sunday as well. Gonna finally prove which is better IG or BA!!!

Protip: It's IG...

Hopefully I can hold him to a minor so he doesn't shoot ahead in points. What's your record at, John?

Dok wrote:I am playing Andy sunday as well. Gonna finally prove which is better IG or BA!!!

Protip: It's IG...

Hopefully I can hold him to a minor so he doesn't shoot ahead in points. What's your record at, John?

I got a draw against Brandon So I am off to an excellent start

I killed Fateweaver and his Lord of Change but it was too late, I couldn't eat through the 27 Blood Crushers fast enough to get to his obj or get one more KP. We drew both the Primary and Secondary objectives. He has so few KPs and three BC deathstars. Should have brought Paladins... or more Strike Squads

Got a minor victory in a game with Scott last night. couldn't for the life of me kill that land raider. Felt kinda like before the deffrolla FAQ.

I put up a Battle Report of my game with Scott up on my blog. I will put my match with Brothererekose up soon.

Is the "north" going to post standings?



Here is where San Diego stands.

I dunno... I was thinking the "north" would post some "standings" at some point, though it seems that the "San" "Diego" guys have a bit of a "head" "start"

Seriously though, we'll get standings up after this weekend most likely, got a few games I'm still waiting on results from.

So, this "David Fay" chap seems to be doing pretty well...

Dok wrote:So, this "David Fay" chap seems to be doing pretty well...

.

Must be a typo since he isn't playing the most overpowered book GW has put out in a decade. Or is he?

That would be the most overpowered book GW has erratad in a decade.

Is is the codex or the general behind it?

Oh snap!!!

I think its being behind the general codex. Oh and chalk another win for da boyz. The dark eldar died in droves dat day, almost felt bad fer dem pointy ear fruits (Well mabey if they wasnt wearin all that skin tight leather).

I have a game versus some pointy ear fruits in the morning. Blood for the Blood Angles!

I posted this on the GE forums but I'll post here as well.

Anyone in the Chainsword Division or Tom G who wants to get a game in this week let me know. We are off work this week for Easter Break, I would prefer morning games or a Tuesday Night game starting between 6:30 and 7:00. LMK


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Dok wrote:That would be the most overpowered book GW has erratad in a decade.

QFT except I think that would actually be C: Dark Angels, I mean... Codex Deathwing

Dave_Fay wrote:Is is the codex or the general behind it?

It's the General behind the most breakable codex! In all seriousness though I have always been one of those people who believes the player has much more to do with the winning equation in 40k than the codex itself. I would say 60% Generalship 20% Codex 20% Luck.

What about the 10% perspiration??? Thats why I always give 110%

Grimgob wrote:What about the 10% perspiration??? Thats why I always give 110%

You're lucky you didn't go to the BSB. Everyone was giving 110%. The third floor smelled like an Ork player...

Grimgob wrote:What about the 10% perspiration??? Thats why I always give 110%

I don't sweat that much so the extra 10% doesn't count for me

Dok wrote:I have a game versus some pointy ear fruits in the morning. Blood for the Blood Angles!

Stupid fruit.

I made so many bad decisions in that game that I scrapped the batrep pix. No need to relive that low point of 40k generalship.

Although Dis does have a pic of me giving Dok money that he's owed ....

Brothererekose wrote:

Dok wrote:I have a game versus some pointy ear fruits in the morning. Blood for the Blood Angles!

Stupid fruit.

I made so many bad decisions in that game that I scrapped the batrep pix. No need to relive that low point of 40k generalship.

Although Dis does have a pic of me giving Dok money that he's owed ....

Ya... That's already on Facebook

4 down, 4 to go!

Dok wrote:4 down, 4 to go!

I wish I was in your division.

OverwatchCNC wrote:

Dok wrote:4 down, 4 to go!

I wish I was in your division.

Having trouble lining up games? Or you just want a piece of the Josh action???

Dok wrote:

OverwatchCNC wrote:

Dok wrote:4 down, 4 to go!

I wish I was in your division.

Having trouble lining up games? Or you just want a piece of the Josh action???

50/50

Whats up with the standings Dis?

Standings will go out tomorrow; I'm compiling and doing data entry today and there's a variety of results to get logged.

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disdainful wrote:Standings will go out tomorrow; I'm compiling and doing data entry today and there's a variety of results to get logged.

Keeps checking thread

You are the winningest (almost), That's all you need to know!

Updated San Diego Results

Dok wrote:You are the winningest (almost), That's all you need to know!

I am the losingest, almost

Doesn't look like you need to worry about meeting me in the playoffs.

Anyone in Chainsword division going to be around this Tues night for a game? If not how about Sunday morning?

I would also like to get more games in. But I don't think anyone I need a game against checks here... so... Good talk!

Anyone from Chainsword division want to get a game in sunday morning?

YES!!!!

E-mail or PM me and we'll set it up.

updated San Diego Results.

Dok wrote:I would also like to get more games in. But I don't think anyone I need a game against checks here... so... Good talk!

Are you up for a game Saturday?

By the way, I am playing DE (Dis got it wrong because I wanted to learn my next army and he put down what I have been playing).

Allan, I'm going to be moving saturday, But I will be somewhat free friday, Sunday, or monday. I have all those days off so I'm flexible. barring sunday afternoon from 2-4

Blackmoor wrote:

Dok wrote:I would also like to get more games in. But I don't think anyone I need a game against checks here... so... Good talk!

Are you up for a game Saturday?

By the way, I am playing DE (Dis got it wrong because I wanted to learn my next army and he put down what I have been playing).

I have the time. Shall we? 10 AM?

Dok wrote:Allan, I'm going to be moving saturday, But I will be somewhat free friday, Sunday, or monday. I have all those days off so I'm flexible. barring sunday afternoon from 2-4

How is Sunday at 10:00am?


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Brothererekose wrote:

Blackmoor wrote:

Dok wrote:I would also like to get more games in. But I don't think anyone I need a game against checks here... so... Good talk!

Are you up for a game Saturday?

By the way, I am playing DE (Dis got it wrong because I wanted to learn my next army and he put down what I have been playing).

I have the time. Shall we? 10 AM?

How is Saturday at 10:00am?

Blackmoor wrote:How is Sunday at 10:00am?

I will shoot you an email friday night to let you know for sure.

Blackmoor wrote:Are you up for a game Saturday?

Brothererekose wrote:I have the time. Shall we? 10 AM?

How is Saturday at 10:00am?

Done. DE vs DE at 10 AM.

Here are the updated results for San Diego.

After we finish 2 out of division games we will move to the playoffs.




What do the Pasadena results look like?

5-0 for me. I think I have finished the most games. Everyone else is slacking.

Dis needs to get on some of Dave's awesome pivot table action!

I am at 2-2.

2 Massacre Wins, 1 Massacre Loss, 1 Minor Loss.

I am only 1 behind you Dok and it isn't for a lack of trying!

I'm 5 massacres in. BA is the most overpowered codex GW has produced in a decade.

Dok wrote:I'm 5 massacres in. BA is the most overpowered codex GW has produced in a decade.

Careful or you'll get this thread locked. Only threads about gk being op are allowed to go on for 55 pages be threadnecromancied back into life after 6 weeks only to go on 10+ pages more before finally being locked.

That should totally be added to the forum rules.

I am a strong proponent of the player skill over list strength theory. You play well with any given army you play, says it all I think. Just don't let anyone from the thread that must not be named know lest the flame war begin!

I am just hoping to get into the playoffs still, after my first 2 abysmal games I am feeling far less confident.

The playoffs is just the top finishers in each division and then the next two with the highest record cutting to a top 4, right? It doesn't seem to be very clear how many players it's cutting to.

Player skill has a lot to do with winning. As well as codex familiarity and comfort. That's why dudes like Grimgob and Russ can beat people's faces in with an older codex.

OverwatchCNC wrote:I am a strong proponent of the player skill over list strength theory. You play well with any given army you play, says it all I think.

A bunch of malarkey, that.

Dok plays , plain and simple. And lucky, mint colored dice. Don't forget his dice!

Dok wrote:The playoffs is just the top finishers in each division and then the next two with the highest record cutting to a top 4, right? It doesn't seem to be very clear how many players it's cutting to.

Player skill has a lot to do with winning. As well as codex familiarity and comfort. That's why dudes like Grimgob and Russ can beat people's faces in with an older codex.

I was under the impression there were wild cards too. I will have to check the league rules on that though, I may be getting the WMS rules mixed up with the escalation league rules...

Hey if anyone from Chainsword wants to get a game this saturday at the bunker(or anywhere south OC-Brea is possible as well) let me know, I still need to play Sgtpjbarker, OverwatchCNC, Travis, and Brandon! I won't be able to make it to pasadena until next weekend.

We can pretty much just call this and give me the prize at this point, right???

You still have to play the playoffs, then the finals and then play San Diego Champion in the Superbowl ;p

Those are just trivial details, Dave!

Dok wrote:Those are just trivial details, Dave!

I really hope I get you first round in the playoffs.

I'm literally undefeatable!!! buahahahahahahaha

Repeating my last post, still need some chainsword games VS. Sgtpjbarker, OverwatchCNC, Travis, and Brandon. Will be around this weekend so let me know if any of you guys are avilable!

Grots R OP wrote:Repeating my last post, still need some chainsword games VS. Sgtpjbarker, OverwatchCNC, Travis, and Brandon. Will be around this weekend so let me know if any of you guys are avilable!

This weekend is really bad for me I have basically no availability. I could play tues or thurs night next week if that works for you.

Updated San Diego results.

OverwatchCNC wrote:

Grots R OP wrote:Repeating my last post, still need some chainsword games VS. Sgtpjbarker, OverwatchCNC, Travis, and Brandon. Will be around this weekend so let me know if any of you guys are avilable!

This weekend is really bad for me I have basically no availability. I could play tues or thurs night next week if that works for you.

Problem is I can only make it to Pasadena on weekends since Im way down near Irvine.

Grots R OP wrote:

OverwatchCNC wrote:

Grots R OP wrote:Repeating my last post, still need some chainsword games VS. Sgtpjbarker, OverwatchCNC, Travis, and Brandon. Will be around this weekend so let me know if any of you guys are avilable!

This weekend is really bad for me I have basically no availability. I could play tues or thurs night next week if that works for you.

Problem is I can only make it to Pasadena on weekends since Im way down near Irvine.

Got it. How about next Sunday, 10 am?

Sat at 10 it is!

OverwatchCNC wrote:

Grots R OP wrote:

OverwatchCNC wrote:

Grots R OP wrote:Repeating my last post, still need some chainsword games VS. Sgtpjbarker, OverwatchCNC, Travis, and Brandon. Will be around this weekend so let me know if any of you guys are avilable!

This weekend is really bad for me I have basically no availability. I could play tues or thurs night next week if that works for you.

Problem is I can only make it to Pasadena on weekends since Im way down near Irvine.

Got it. How about next Sunday, 10 am?

Grots R OP wrote:Sat at 10 it is!

I said Sunday, you said Saturday We should probably clarify that

I am also looking to get a game in against my other Chainsword opponents tonight if any of you can make it! I'll be in between 6:30 and 7:00. Or if anyone from Bolter wants to get a game in I am looking to practice with my 2k list.

Updated San Diego Results



Whats going on with Pasadena!!??

Dave_Fay wrote:Updated San Diego Results



Whats going on with Pasadena!!??

Dok and I thought we had it pretty well worked out. It looks like he won his division, and either Scott or Levi will be winning ours. As far as wildcards etc. goes I have no clue but with my excruciatingly close loss to Scott on Tuesday I think any chances I had of making it are out the window.

OverwatchCNC wrote:

Dave_Fay wrote:Updated San Diego Results

Dok and I thought we had it pretty well worked out. It looks like he won his division, and either Scott or Levi will be winning ours. As far as wildcards etc. goes I have no clue but with my excruciatingly close loss to Scott on Tuesday I think any chances I had of making it are out the window.

Haha, It MAY have been the California heat, but at round 5 I looked up, noticed I was sweating. Realized I had just kinda came out of that super focus you get on a good game! The end of the game really came down to whether a heavy psybolter could do in a rhino, and it didnt. I wish one of us had been logging it. That was epic.

Well I logged 80 points altogether (not counting my battle with greg). Where you at in points scott?

I had:
Major Loss to Levi (out of division).
Major Loss to Josh & Andy.
Major Victories over Derek and Ishmael.

Lee, Allan and Tom dropped.

Bonus points are in Travis's hands.

games went like this
5-8 against levi
13-1 against greg
13-1 against paul
9-7 against rob
12-3 against brandon
10-3 against John
2 absentee matches (travis and lee) which are "full points" I have no idea if thats 10 or 14 from what I was reading in the rules.

82 if its 10 points each, 90 if its 14

Congrats to San Diego 40K players for finishing all of their games!

Here are the playoffs.



Tied Records will be broken by Head to Head record (have you beaten the person you are tied with in League
play?) will be used. If the players never played, then in‐Division records as a tie‐breaker.

I'll try and get ahold of Dis to find out what is going on with Pasadena.

We'll wait till we figure out 6th before starting the next Masters league.

Dave, here are the results from the Pasadena league.
http://gameempirepasadena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1322

Dok, Andy, Grimgob, and Voodoo are going to the playoffs.

BA, IG, Orks, GK

Bring it, Grimgob!

Here are the Semi-Finalists.


Here are the playoffs.

We will have a pasadena champion this weekend also. (Hint, it's gonna be me)

Dang, man. No love for the Wild Card entries.

Dok wrote:We will have a pasadena champion this weekend also. (Hint, it's gonna be me)

Source Please

I'm repping the only xenos threat left to the empire. suck it ya dirty hummies. I'm gunna Whaaaaagh all over yas dis weekend!!!

P.S. we might not be on point as much as the SD crew but we re gunna BBQ for our finals

Voodoo wrote:

Dok wrote:We will have a pasadena champion this weekend also. (Hint, it's gonna be me)

Source Please

I read it on the internet!

Well Dok siezed the inititave on me and it went down hill from there taking the win by several kill points after crippleing my mobility by the second turn. Andy beat Voodoo (cant comment on that game as I was concintrating on loosing mine), then we BBQ'ed, and had some beer. Andy's IG had Doks Blood Angles on the ropes but Dok pulls it out (2 objectives to 1) in the last turn. So for the Pasadena Champion its the undefeated Dok!!! (9th in the country by the way) Now go kick some butt in SD!

P.S. the internet is always right and I will post my daughters artist rendering of me and Dok's game tommorow.

Called it! Ha ha, good games guys!

WOOOOO DOK!!! WOOOOO!!

I'm a Dok fanboi, until next round, where I am going to smash his face in to smithereens!!

Is the final still scheduled for the 15th of July? I may have to post-pone until the following weekend if at all possible. I have a major deadline on the 17th that may require me to work that day. I will know more as the date approaches though. Good luck Whales Vaginans!

Keep me informed, I've been working with Davis to coordinate the 40k and WHFB finals. I'd like to make sure we can get it on a day everyone can attend and do the whole shebangabang all at once.

Without a doubt.

disdainful wrote:Keep me informed, I've been working with Davis to coordinate the 40k and WHFB finals. I'd like to make sure we can get it on a day everyone can attend and do the whole shebangabang all at once.

I checked out the set up that was used at WGC for the live stream of the games. If you still plan on doing that part of the match let me know so I can help you rig it up.

Dok wrote:Is the final still scheduled for the 15th of July? I may have to post-pone until the following weekend if at all possible. I have a major deadline on the 17th that may require me to work that day. I will know more as the date approaches though. Good luck Whales Vaginans!

Congrats on the win again! By the way why did you mention Whale vagina

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT8sIT4vBUQ

Oh I get it now. It was an ode to the San Diego Champion. Very good sir and nice whale vagina to you too!

Is there any possibility that we could do the finals this weekend? The more I read 6th, the more I'm going to get the rules confused. How are you guys doing in San Diego?

John and I play tomorrow night at 6 PM and Winner will have to get a game in with Jeremy over the weekend.

Cliff mentioned the the Finals are on the 15th at Pasadena?

I've left my book shrinked wrapped and have avoided sites to keep my 5th mentality till the Masters are over.

The 15th is the idea, but I'm trying to avoid making that a hard date since I have a hard deadline at work on the 17th.

Levi, I'm still waiting for your daughter's artistic rendition! post it yo =).

Looks like I'll be playing Dok

Finals

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/464429.page#4560784

Way to be, Dave! Sounds like a great game between you and Dok, well played to you both!