Hi guys
Again I am organising a tournament at games of war in seaham, This will be the last tournament I organise for a while due to growing family, so I am hoping to finish my run with a bang.
Now the basics again it will be 1750 on Saturday and 2250 on Sunday, and as usual a variety of missions will be played on the two days, there will be a few changes.
First victory points will be used as a tie break not kill points !!!
Secondly no stupid proxies ie cardboard cut outs if the model doesn't exist find a suitable replacement or ask for a solution
Third I am asking for people's opinions of using chapter approved/ forge world although anyone wishing to use any forgeworld models/rules I would ask if you could forward the rule to me sharp ish so I can look these over, also these should be approved for use in 40k and no superheavies or any thing with mass or structure points

As always any rules queries should also be posted on here so we can discuss prior to the event
Any further questions just ask

Awesome!!

I can't believe you've managed to get a date sorted so soon after the last one.

This is likely to be my last tournament of 5th edition too. I might have to prepare something special for it!

How will victory points be calculated?

Im obviously there

I'l be there with chaos this time .

I will not be able to make it unless it can (possibly?) be rescheduled to the 23rd & .24th, if anybody particularly wants to fight me. If not then, oh well. I'll be there next time though

No it can't be changed nids as I work and can only arrange them around my very few and far between weekends off

Ok then, I'll see you all at the first 6th ed tourney.

So does anyone have any thoughts on using forgeworld ?

How about a certain points limit being able to be spent on forgeworld stuff? and I also think your right to go along the lines of no super heavys or anything with structure points.

or you could make it the TO's call , submit your list in advance and see if your allowed or not

Wittman79 wrote:So does anyone have any thoughts on using forgeworld ?

Personally, im not that big of a fan on Imperial Armour gear.

Forgeworld models, hey sure.

Forgeworld rules...personally, no but there it is.

As long as you stick with the "40k approved" IA units should be good. Here's a link to what I would use with my tau http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/t/Tauupdate.pdf. Probably the tetras and perhaps the sensor tower. Hardly over powered!

EYIG

Embrace your inner geek wrote:As long as you stick with the "40k approved" IA units should be good. Here's a link to what I would use with my tau http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/t/Tauupdate.pdf. Probably the tetras and perhaps the sensor tower. Hardly over powered!

EYIG

Link appears to be broken. :/

So it is. Look on the forge world site, home page in the download sections.

EYIG

As we spoke on Saturday, I would like to field either thuddguns/heavy mortars or my Tauros squadrons. The IA units I want to bring are less points efficient than the choices I need to take out of my normal list to fit them in.

To give a feel of the rules for people who dont have access to them.

Thuddgun; Artillery, S 5, AP 5, 4 small blasts, multiple barrage, immobile, can fire for two turns then must miss a turn to reload so four turns of shooting in an average game. The big downer is its immobile. DOW deployment means it needs a towing Centaur or deep striking deployment. A mortar HWS can put out more blasts (S 4) in a comparable game at 2/3rds of the points cost and is scoring.

Heavy Mortar is an immobile Griffon with the same deployment problems as the Thudd Gun. The Mortar and tow costs more than a Griffon.

A 3 vehicle Tauros Venerators Squadron costs 160% more than a Vendetta that normally takes up the FA slot for the same firepower (3 TLLC). The squadron is more durable for cover save/ hit allocation but is open topped AV11/10/10 and has no transport capacity.

My other tauros squadron of 3 vehicles is 5 pts less than a Vendetta and is armed with two heavy flamers and a 2 shot grenade launcher with AV10 all round.

The original IA books 1 & 2 did have some OP rules but I think later IA books have become more in line with the current game.

As has been pointed out by others no mass points & no structure points keep the choices in check but also I would think about no Flyers that dont have the skimmer rule.

To be fair from what I have seen so far there doesn't appear to be anything ott or decisive from fw or ia
I certainly don't have too much of an issue with them at present but will bow to general consensus on this subject

If I play Tau I would also onyl be using Tetras and Sensor Towers. But if I play with Blood Angels again I doubt I will use any Forge World/Imperial Armour models/units. But looking forward to this one had good fun last time.

Id have no problem whatsoever playing against FW , I think one thing that may be an issue is the unknown factor? maybe the To could get the lists in a couple of weeks out and post them online. this would allow people to read up on any FW/IA units being used?

For Example if Hesh tank on hadnt have told me what the stuff he wanted to take did , Id have been sh*tting myself till I read up on it. So time to prepare and know the enemy could be crucial

Also @Hesh , how do kill points work for the tow vehicle?

masterjock wrote:Id have no problem whatsoever playing against FW , I think one thing that may be an issue is the unknown factor? maybe the To could get the lists in a couple of weeks out and post them online. this would allow people to read up on any FW/IA units being used?

For Example if Hesh tank on hadnt have told me what the stuff he wanted to take did , Id have been sh*tting myself till I read up on it. So time to prepare and know the enemy could be crucial

Also @Hesh , how do kill points work for the tow vehicle?

^ this

Most of the time, in NON-IA games, you can guess what everyone is bringing and prepare accordingly.

So knowing everything thats going to be fielded IA-wise, might make it a bit more...fair.

Example, i KNOW there will be GK players, and I KNOW someone will field Draigo, so i'll bring X unit to counter him .

Even though I ain't gonna be there, I can see wolfie's point

Pre posting lists is a good idea.

EYIG

Pre posting list may be an option
I agree with the fear of the unknown, ok so taking it further what about full lists of ia such as eylsians ?

Wittman79 wrote:so taking it further what about full lists of ia such as eylsians ?

Much as I would like my Elysians to take the field on mass I think it is a step to far, the IA army lists contain a lot of army specific rules and equipment all needed to be remembered by the opponent instead of one or two rules for a couple of IA units.

Also the Elysians are pants and their history is only full of famous last stands (one of which will be this Saturday against Ratwolfs 'Nids)

Embrace your inner geek wrote:Pre posting lists is a good idea.

Happy with doing that and will be bringing the IA book I use to FOW in the preceding weeks.

masterjock wrote:Also @Hesh , how do kill points work for the tow vehicle?

I have always played it as a dedicated transport so 1 KP for the Gun, 1 KP for the Towing Vehicle.

Remember using victory points as tie breaker in this one
Kill points only in annhilation game

Hesh_Tank_On wrote:

Also the Elysians are pants and their history is only full of famous last stands (one of which will be this Saturday against Ratwolfs 'Nids)

.

Are you?

I thought I was playing Elliot due to you and everyother mug playing Fantasy.

RatWolf wrote:]Are you?

Aarons bringing his fantasy Orcs and having a practice game against Jacob. I dont have fantasy so was bringing Elysians like we talked about Saturday

Hesh_Tank_On wrote:

RatWolf wrote:]Are you?

Aarons bringing his fantasy Orcs and having a practice game against Jacob. I dont have fantasy so was bringing Elysians like we talked about Saturday

aaaah, I recall.

If you still want to, then i dont see why not.

RatWolf wrote:IIf you still want to

Yes, I will bring a Detachment 99 1750pts Army

D-99 Special Rules:

All of the following squads selected as part of a D-99 Detachment army gain the Surgical Enhancement and Preferred Enemy (Tyranids) special rules:
Elysian Company Command Squad, Elysian Special Weapon Squad, Elysian Veteran Squad.

Surgical Enhancement: A unit subject to this rule gains +1 Initiative and the Stubborn special rule.

Each of these squads cost an additional 20 points each to reflect these abilities.

Youll be glad to know you cant have Vendettas in the Army

Hesh_Tank_On wrote:

RatWolf wrote:IIf you still want to

Yes, I will bring a Detachment 99 1750pts Army

D-99 Special Rules:

All of the following squads selected as part of a D-99 Detachment army gain the Surgical Enhancement and Preferred Enemy (Tyranids) special rules:
Elysian Company Command Squad, Elysian Special Weapon Squad, Elysian Veteran Squad.

Surgical Enhancement: A unit subject to this rule gains +1 Initiative and the Stubborn special rule.

Each of these squads cost an additional 20 points each to reflect these abilities.

Youll be glad to know you cant have Vendettas in the Army

Hahaa, I know man xD you borrowed me the book hahaa

I dont think using a full army of FW would be too bad either if the list was posted in advance. That way people would know what they were up against.

I dont however think that the guys using FW should post their lists before other people as then lists could be tailored. Just enough time to read up a bit should be ok.

I would say instead of posting up full lists if Sean just compiled all of thee forgeworld units beign used and posted them up it would be fine. That way pesople still have some secrecy and there full list isn't out there for everyone to see. But also it means the people get to know the forgeworld units without seeing who is taking them.

Again, as an outsider, keyboard has a great idea.

Hi, never been to a seaham tournament, any chance of the following info?

Available to all, or invites only?
Cost?
Whats the Venue like? (amenities etc)

Id like to come along, I will be purchasing a FW Decimator in the foreseeable future and if you okay the rules I'll use them, if not can i just use it as a chaos dread?

Blood for the Blood God!

geordie09 wrote:Hi, never been to a seaham tournament, any chance of the following info?

Available to all, or invites only?
Cost?
Whats the Venue like? (amenities etc)

Id like to come along, I will be purchasing a FW Decimator in the foreseeable future and if you okay the rules I'll use them, if not can i just use it as a chaos dread?

Blood for the Blood God!

Everyone is welcome
10 quid
Amenities?

RatWolf wrote:

geordie09 wrote:Hi, never been to a seaham tournament, any chance of the following info?

Available to all, or invites only?
Cost?
Whats the Venue like? (amenities etc)

Id like to come along, I will be purchasing a FW Decimator in the foreseeable future and if you okay the rules I'll use them, if not can i just use it as a chaos dread?

Blood for the Blood God!

Everyone is welcome
10 quid
Amenities?

I may have spelt it wrong... basically will I need to feed myself or can food be bought at venue?

@geordie09

There stuff like crisps, drinks and chocolate on sale in the store out the front.

And theres is a few shops just up the road, chippies and such.

If im right then the catering van that came round last time will be coming round too

Sometimes we do cook the losers on the Sunday night !!!

Clearly we dont.
Josh is still alive :3

Cheeky tw@t

But yeah, the man has a point

Ok IA I would like to field my blood slaughterer but I dont have the rules for it.

Anyone got the rules so I can read up on them?

Also i would say nothing with apocalypse template weapons (the big ones) 40k normal size weapons only

happygolucky wrote:Ok IA I would like to field my blood slaughterer but I dont have the rules for it.

i will bring the book tommorrow

What's one of those happy ?

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/KHORNE-BLOOD-SLAUGHTERER.html

@ Wittman, this

Wittman - do we have a decision on Imperial Armour? If I'm going to get the stuff painted in time I'll need to get them soon, but don't want to get them until I know.

EYIG

Embrace your inner geek wrote: but don't want to get them until I know.

Buy them through your Company and claim they are desk ornaments.

Geek can you e mail me what your planning on using
There are a few IA things that I notice a lot of people are hating such a dreadnought assault drop pod
But as a whole I have no objections (yet)

wittman - email sent. No secrets - was planning on using tetras, sentry drones and remote sensor tower (perhaps).

EYIG

It has been brought to my attention that this guy - http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/d/decimator.pdf - is a bit uncool rules wise.

Does it matter? It looks the business!

geordie09 wrote:Does it matter? It looks the business!

That it does but its rules are a little rough xD

What do you think is rough? The only thing I thought was a bit wierd was the getting back to life thing. Otherwise seems a bit rubbish really. A BA furioso would rip it apart for 20 pts less. In any event it does not have "official" sanction yet so as I understand it isn't part of IA 2 authorised for 40k. But even if it was I would have no objection to playing it.

EYIG

I dont think the decimator is that bad actually , its still only AV12 and that with the assault 4 missile thing he still comes in at 40 points over a psybolt dreadnought.

In a code not brimming with options he seems ok

Hmm...

I wanna field a warhound titan XD

seriously if I had the conversion skills I would have an army full of dreadclaws...

t I think Ratwolf has a point, its says they are experimental rules and Ive stayed away from the IG rapiers because of this.

If I was to field him I would take mark of nurgle for the re-roll

It ignores completely damage results of 1 or 2
Ignores 3 or 4 in a 1/3 of cases
A roll of 5 knocks him out but then has 1 in three chance (mark of Nurgle) of getting up in each turn with all damage results removed.
Only a roll of 6 on the damage chart can remove him or a re-rolled 1on his return roll (mark of Nurgle)

The only saving grace for it is I read it that it cannot assualt on the turn it gets back up (deep strike rules)

It also gets 6 str 8 attacks on the carge and the special weapons it can take don't seem to shabby either.

redkeyboard wrote:It also gets 6 str 8 attacks on the carge and the special weapons it can take don't seem to shabby either.

As mentioned, its still experimental.

And its the fact its a big ass walker, that can ignore...well, just about every damage table result.

Yes, I could tear it to pieces, but then it'll just stand back up or make a roll and make my efforts totally futile.

RatWolf wrote:
Yes, I could tear it to pieces, but then it'll just stand back up or make a roll and make my efforts totally futile.

Are you telling me that you are scared of it coming back to life? My basic troops come back to life, and they're no trouble. But then, they aren't S8 AV12 I suppose

If people have an issue with it I can use it as a proxy dread, not a problem... or a Daemon Prince maybe.

geordie09 wrote:If people have an issue with it I can use it as a proxy dread, not a problem... or a Daemon Prince maybe.

It'd make a great Daemon Prince xD

I dont have any MASSIVE problem with it, i'm just bringing its cheese to the light.

Id arther go up against this than a unit of 3 oblits!

masterjock wrote:Id arther go up against this than a unit of 3 oblits!

One way or another its up to Sean.

Whats so scary about oblits? Arn't they just like BS5 long fangs?

IHateNids wrote:Whats so scary about oblits? Arn't they just like BS5 Devastators?

Fixed!

and kind of, sort of.

Terminators with Power Fists and 3 different Heavy Weapons and multiwounds.

So they arn't that Hard. What's thier toughness? I'm assuming 6, so force weapons should mince them

^ Toughness 6 bahaha. No they are only toughness 4 but I belive you can give them mark of nurgle for toughness 5.

Ok so ID from Lascannons. Not very scary at all IMHO

5+ invul can stop them. But if you take the mark of nurgle its tougness 5 so thats a railgun you need. Just cause ther instant deathable doesnt mean they arent a threat. My main commander can be instant deathed. So can mephiston but you remember how that went. xD

Don't remind me

RatWolf wrote:One way or another its up to Sean.

@Geordie09 Just remember Sean likes chocolate (lots of chocolate).

Yea I like chocolate although there are still people who owe me chocolate
To be honest I love the model and think its kinda canny rules wise BUT before you all start to worry as its experimental I'm gonna have to say no and set my bribe limit in the region of the entire worlds supply of cadburys mini eggs,
Happy are you still wanting to use the thingy you mentioned earlier ????
Can you forward the rules and have you got the model ?

If there are no definitive rules by then ill use it as a dprince or dread, whatever... I couldn't provide the worlds supply of mini eggs, cos i'd have eaten most of them if i had them.

Obliterators shouldn't be underestimated. DS melta tastic, and you can go on about force weapons and insta kills etc but if they've done the damage before theyre taken out...

Wittman79 wrote:Yea I like chocolate although there are still people who owe me chocolate
To be honest I love the model and think its kinda canny rules wise BUT before you all start to worry as its experimental I'm gonna have to say no and set my bribe limit in the region of the entire worlds supply of cadburys mini eggs,
Happy are you still wanting to use the thingy you mentioned earlier ????
Can you forward the rules and have you got the model ?

What the warhound?

That would make me the happyst boy in the village ...

Meh Its just I do have the model but im not sure if I want to use it since I dont have the rules for it.

happygolucky wrote:Meh Its just I do have the model but im not sure if I want to use it since I dont have the rules for it.

I will PM the rules to You and Sean when I get home as I cant remember the stats and put a synopsis on here. All I remember just now is you need to have a beserker squad in your army to field one.




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The Blood Slaughterer is a Front AV 13 "Dreadnought" that has fleet, can be taken in a squadron of 1-3 and suffers from rage. No ranged damage weapons but can have a harpoon that drags the target 2D6 towards it. Cost comparable to a Vendetta

Hey guys.

im running a doubles tournament if anyone is interested

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/438056.page#4058278

thanks in advance

Reading the Tourny Pack.

im assuming the ''+1 pt for painted armies'' is a typo if anything?

I swear I took that out but not no bonuses for fully painted armies just pride

Here's something i found too:

"Armies will be selected using the relevant codex and should not exceed 1750/2000 points"

Just thought you'd like to know

So this Tourney pack is one big typo is it?

IHateNids wrote:So this Tourney pack is one big typo is it?

Oh dear, this won't end well.

Nids, grown ups have other things to worry about than spelling mistakes and the odd cut and paste error.

edited to sound more condescending but keeping a hint of humour

Hesh_Tank_On wrote:

IHateNids wrote:So this Tourney pack is one big typo is it?

Oh dear, this won't end well.

Nids, grown ups have other things to worry about than spelling mistakes and the odd cut and paste error.

edited to sound more condescending but keeping a hint of humour

Quoted for Truth

RatWolf wrote:Tyranids:Friendly Games - 1/0/0

Friendly? You ripped my Elysians apart, at least it was another glorious last stand for D-99

Hesh_Tank_On wrote:

IHateNids wrote:So this Tourney pack is one big typo is it?

Oh dear, this won't end well.

Nids, grown ups have other things to worry about than spelling mistakes and the odd cut and paste error.

edited to sound more condescending but keeping a hint of humour

Love it Hesh
Nids there looks to be a problem either the shop has uploaded wrong one or you have there are some mistakes in what I sent will show you tomorrow when I hit you I mean see you !!!!!

Hesh_Tank_On wrote:Oh dear, this won't end well.

Never said anything in a bad way. Just pointing out what other people have said. Maybe I should have put a on the end to show a joke...

Wittman79 wrote:
Nids, there looks to be a problem. Either the shop has uploaded the wrong one or there are some mistakes in what I sent. I will show you tomorrow when I hit you (I mean see you!)

I assume that this is what you meant.
And thanks

Anyone got any list ideas that include IA units??

It's a bit off topic but if you guys would like to attend a 40k narrative campaign in mansfield then please check my link.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/440020.page

Still hoping to attend Seaham in june, just waiting for leave to be confirmed!

In my opinion, IA units are for themed IA specific armies are they not?

Which is a question of context, what may be balanced in context of a themed army may not be balanced in the context of the larger game?
Points alone do not necessarily reflect balance. Not everyone has access to Forge World models, as they tend to be expensive. This in my opinion is excluding a portion of the player base.

It would be fair to say that everyone has access to GW models and codexes\FAQ’s? This isn’t excluding anyone.
Forge world models\rule have a place, but in a 40K tournament level the playing field, don’t make it exclusive. A 40K tournament in my opinion should only include BRB, codex and FAQ rules\units. This makes it fair to everyone. As the codex armies in the 40K system are designed to competitive which each other are they not?

Furthermore it’s far easier to exclude, non-codex rules models than to have people include them.
This is just my opinion, as is expressed as such, feel free to offer a counter-point.

firstname_lastname wrote:In my opinion, IA units are for themed IA specific armies are they not?

Which is a question of context, what may be balanced in context of a themed army may not be balanced in the context of the larger game?
Points alone do not necessarily reflect balance. Not everyone has access to Forge World models, as they tend to be expensive. This in my opinion is excluding a portion of the player base.

It would be fair to say that everyone has access to GW models and codexes\FAQ’s? This isn’t excluding anyone.
Forge world models\rule have a place, but in a 40K tournament level the playing field, don’t make it exclusive. A 40K tournament in my opinion should only include BRB, codex and FAQ rules\units. This makes it fair to everyone. As the codex armies in the 40K system are designed to competitive which each other are they not?

Furthermore it’s far easier to exclude, non-codex rules models than to have people include them.
This is just my opinion, as is expressed as such, feel free to offer a counter-point.

Counter-Point:

We've had alot of just...normal 40k tournies.

The TO decided we'd have one last send off, and do something off-key.

We don't usually have FW units.

Granted, no, not everyone has the money for full IA armies, but, in this case, no one is really bothered, as the tournament isn't a big, hard and heavy, WAAC, competitive dash to the ''I-won-but-made-no-friends-along-the-way'' finish line.

P.S., no of this was said in a negative manner, it was simply, as you said, a counter-point.

Fair point, i'll refine and re-iterate the salient points for clarity.

forge world unit\rules that have been specificically designed to work with exsisting codexes i have no issue with, hopefully they have been balanced through play testing (i still believe that forge world\games workshop employees get this more or less correct) What i do think you have to be careful with are units\rules that are designed to work with a specific themed army and other easy abusable units (i believe super heavies were mentioned earlier), these can be potentially game breaking if used in collaboration with the codex armies. As you gain the advantages but non of the disadvantages.

in my opinion the easiest way to ensure all armies are competetive is to only allow codex armies, as the codex armies are a know quantity, and have been balanced in terms of the game.

Obviously this is up to the tournament organiser. If its done fairly and intelligently then i dont think it will be a problem.

Well superheavies have been disallowed
And units have to be approved by me to prevent stupid units being used

Wittman - can i check - are you content with the following tau units - sentry towers, remote sensor towers, tetras, remoras, and TX-42s?

EYIG

Geek can't find the rules for tx-42

Wittman - think of them as piranhas that swap gun drones for twinlinking the primary weapon and AV11 on the side as well as the front. They come with BS4 and a Fusion gun as base - for 20pts more than the piranha. You can up grade them with plasma guns, rail rifles or missile pods.

EYIG

Hi all please note there has been a change of date to this it's now the 30th and 1st of June/July

Great, I can come after all

Yey now I can beat your teeth in ... with dice ...

happygolucky wrote:Yey now I can beat your teeth in ... with dice ...

Youlld have to race me to it I want those metal teef for my Warboss. But I'm plating Blood Angels so yours need them more.

Any way good that you can make it 'Nids.

But Abbadon needs a few red helmets to add to his rack...

Are We having a game next week Red?

happygolucky wrote:But Abbadon needs a few red helmets to add to his rack...

Are We having a game next week Red?

Yeah sure. I couldn't text you to say I couldnt make it toay my phone was out of credit. But Mephiston might have to send Abbadon back to the warp to protect our secret buddies cause Matt ward said we love each other.

redkeyboard wrote:

happygolucky wrote:But Abbadon needs a few red helmets to add to his rack...

Are We having a game next week Red?

Yeah sure. I couldn't text you to say I couldnt make it toay my phone was out of credit. But Mephiston might have to send Abbadon back to the warp to protect our secret buddies cause Matt ward said we love each other.

Secret buddies?

happygolucky wrote:

redkeyboard wrote:

happygolucky wrote:But Abbadon needs a few red helmets to add to his rack...

Are We having a game next week Red?

Yeah sure. I couldn't text you to say I couldnt make it toay my phone was out of credit. But Mephiston might have to send Abbadon back to the warp to protect our secret buddies cause Matt ward said we love each other.

Secret buddies?

Khorne, Slaanesh, Nurgle & Tzeentch

(I dunno why, but one plays CSM, the other plays Deamons)

Ok now im confuddled context anyone?

You play CSM who worship the chaos gods

red plays Deamons who are the chaos gods incarnate

happygolucky wrote:

redkeyboard wrote:

happygolucky wrote:But Abbadon needs a few red helmets to add to his rack...

Are We having a game next week Red?

Yeah sure. I couldn't text you to say I couldnt make it toay my phone was out of credit. But Mephiston might have to send Abbadon back to the warp to protect our secret buddies cause Matt ward said we love each other.

Secret buddies?

Ward wrote a peice of fluff were Blodo Angels and Necrons became buddies agrred not to kill eacj other and killed a bunch of Tyranids.

I knew that... *whistles, trying to act natural*

LOL ah yeah I remember nid's are THE enemy...

happygolucky wrote:LOL ah yeah I remember nid's are THE enemy...

It went something like this

Yeah in the land where GK were not OP, and I actually beat 'nids an a gretchin kills calgar XD ...

Oh and chaos wins ...

I won't be able to make the tournament now due to the change in dates, maybe next time if somebody takes the mantle.

If anybody would like to attend a narrative 40k campaign weekend i'm arranging in Mansfield in December though please check the link.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/440020.page

Change in dates?

i may have to redo holidays

Yes master have had to change the date to the 30th of june

Cheers Wittman

Is this date locked down now? as its ideal because im weekend off

also when is the list submission date?

RIGHT!!!

So, what armies are you lot bringing ?

The Necrons fist bumping buddies. So Blood Angels.

If I'm allowed imperial armour, Tau. If not, blood angels.

Whitman - final decision on IA units?

EYIG

Necrons, without proxies

(Yes, wolfie, you read that right)

CHAOS, for glory obviously...

And to wave the current codex off before the new codex arrives ...

Geek I'm almost tempted to say no to see your blood angels
But yes to imperial armour use but still request any units get the ok from me first
Your piranha thingys are ok I guess lol

Please also note that list submission is midnight on the wends before the tournament late entries will be punished severely upto and including loss of limb

''including loss of limb''.

THIS ^

When do they have to be in?

IHateNids wrote:When do they have to be in?

Are you fething kidding me this Josh!

...derpin' all over the joint....

Wittman - tell you what - i'll run my BA one day and my tau the next!

What do you reckon?

EYIG

I appear to have caught you out wolfie

IHateNids wrote:I appear to have caught you out wolfie

How exactly did you catch him out?

I 'asked' when the lists had to be in. He said 'are you kidding me', as I knew someone would

Nids do me and probably quite a few others a favour and shut the hell up !!!!



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Geek as much as I would like to say yes I'm gonna say no lol

Your '!' is stuck in again Witt...

Wittman, can I give my lists to the shop on the weekend before the tourney? I am going to be in Florida when they are supposed to be in, and don't have any way of getting them to you before the deadline.

IHateNids wrote:Wittman, can I give my lists to the shop on the weekend before the tourney? I am going to be in Florida when they are supposed to be in, and don't have any way of getting them to you before the deadline.

Why not e-mail them before you go? Sounds like a good plan to me.

Cos I'm going this weekend, so will have no time due to packing.

I'm not even supposed to be on Dakka now XD

IHateNids wrote:Cos I'm going this weekend, so will have no time due to packing.

I'm not even supposed to be on Dakka now XD

There is a thing called the noght time. You know when everyone has gone to bed you are still awake. Your turn on the computer and send the e-mail.

i am not taking my dex, and I don't know if our hotel has WiFi yet

Wait Josh....you're going on holiday this weekend yeah?

For how long?

RatWolf wrote:Wait Josh....you're going on holiday this weekend yeah?

For how long?

3 Weeks.

I get back 2 weekends before the Tourney

then email it the weekend before the tourny...

That's what I asked, but to hand it straight into the store.

no....if you get back 2 weeks before.
email it 2 weeks before.

Ok, I can have it in by the 20th. At soonest (unfortunately).

Right for the benefit of nids again as obviously reading and understanding appears too difficulty !!!
The submission date for army lists is midnight on the 27th of June
For anyone using IA can you submit them before 20th preferably with the stats and special rules attached or at least an indication of where I can get them from

Cheers guys

I thought I was going to miss the deadline

No lists yet and no signs of any IA lists if anyone is using IA I need them earlier and a breakdown of stats, rules etc

If anyone turns up on the day using IA units without explaining the stats rules for the units they will be disallowed please inform all players you see

So, might be that the 30th is the day that 6th comes out. Games of war might need to get a stock in!

EYIG

Ran my list today, Played great.

Expect my list in soon!

Lists in , now to see if i can get them painted or not

Mine shall be in soon I just want to try out a variation and see which I prefer.

You can expect mine to turn up about fridayish, but it has had absolutley no testing at all.

I forsee another last place finish

Getting close to this now , anyone still painting , building or list writing?

I'm still on doing my 1750, but my 2250 is done

masterjock wrote:Getting close to this now , anyone still painting , building or list writing?

Lists to be finalised.

Models to be painted.

Painting some tanks red so they look blood angely. List finilization and i need to get the flamestorm cannons onto my crusader as i currently only have a crusader and godhammer. So I will need to try and get those Hurricane bolters off and some flamers on.

I submitted my list, but i still have 1 model to build and 7 to paint...

oh god...

Il be handing my list in at the weekend

I've got a good idea what my list is, still haven't had a practice game though.

Greg

Sir#67 wrote:I've got a good idea what my list is, still haven't had a practice game though.

Greg

Does playing on mass effect 3 count as a practice game? if so i have had lots and lots of practice.

Well wends midnight is deadline after that punishment will be handed out !!!

Did you get mine ok mate?

I handed mine in at the shop saturday so mines in

Yes del I got yours
Nids you better hope Yvonne forwards it on cause I'm not down shop till Friday and if it aint been emailed to me and I get it handed to me on Friday I won't have chance to check it so will be late entry !!!!


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Oh and who let Christian know we were using forgeworld cause whoever did is in trouble cause I have a list with no ideas of special units !!!

^ Hell On!!!

Oh and nids please inbox me with an explanation
Of your Hq choices on your list !!!

Mine will be in tonight.

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Oh and who let Christian know we were using forgeworld cause whoever did is in trouble cause I have a list with no ideas of special units !!!

Whats he taking? I have the IA books and can summarise on here for everybody the FW choices.

Also the Imperial Armour FAQ and updates have been removed from the website so if its in an older book he's out of luck.

Wittman79 wrote:Oh and nids please inbox me with an explanation
Of your Hq choices on your list !!!

What do you mean?
Have you got my lists?

I think he means your royal cournt wsith it being oh so confusing.

Red scorpions Hesh
And it appears you have 6 Hq choices nids as you have not specified what it what so it is an invalid list

Wittman79 wrote:Red scorpions Hesh

They are spread over several books but basicaly they are a codex space marine army they have no current IA army list. The IA4 list is outdated.

Their Tactical Squads can upgrade the Sergeant for 25pts to a Apothacary (IA6)
Lord High Commander Culln (Space Marine Chapter Master) +1 combat resolution for his squad, sword adds bonus number of attacks equal to difference in WS, gives the apothacary upgrade for free but lose combat tactics. above 200pts (IA9)
Magister Loth (Space Marine Librarian),can use 3 powers per turn, 2+ Termie armour can become 2+ invun, Psychic Hood cant dispel this, can take an honour guard, above 200pts (IA9)

Ok, I will edit it so you can see what is in which Royal Court

Cheers Hesh he using that cullin guy

Nids the deadline is closing fast

I need your e-mail address again Witt. I lost it.

I just emailed my list into you there.

Well today is the day for list submission any recieved after midnight will be punished

And as far as I can tell only a few people are using any forgeworld stuff

Now 6th edition will be released on Saturday so thus is gonna be the last tournament of 5th and last I will be running for a while however I will return (MacArthur ) and with new ideas

Wittman79 wrote:

And as far as I can tell only a few people are using any forge world stuff

And one of them isn't me! Decided against it after all. Didn't really make sense to try something new with 6th round the corner. Bringing something fun and silly....!

EYIG



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And talking about 6th....I have my copy ordered with Yvonne to be picked up on Saturday. Embarrassingly excited about new rules. don't know if I'll be able to concentrate on my games knowing the book is "burning a hole in my bag"

EYIG

Wittman79 wrote:Well today is the day for list submission any recieved after midnight will be punished

And as far as I can tell only a few people are using any forgeworld stuff

Now 6th edition will be released on Saturday so thus is gonna be the last tournament of 5th and last I will be running for a while however I will return (MacArthur ) and with new ideas

I have handed mine into the shop as I didnt have enough time to send it to you, and lack of internet makes me unable to send it to you at home.

I got it happy

I can't wait for a chance to restart running these for 6th edition

To be honest, im actually relatively excited for 6th.

At the moment 40k is just a game of Top Trumps, and list writing!!!

Random charge ranges ftw!!!

RatWolf wrote:At the moment 40k is just a game of Top Trumps,
Random charge ranges ftw!!!

I will trump that with a IG platoon, assume you 13" away to get the 7" average random charge distance.

Platoon moves forward 1" , FRRR rapid fire at 12" in my turn then overwatch rapid fire and your front guys die (new wound allocation) in your turn. You roll less than 7" for the charge I shoot you again next turn .

(assuming the rumours are true)

Hesh_Tank_On wrote:

RatWolf wrote:At the moment 40k is just a game of Top Trumps,
Random charge ranges ftw!!!

I will trump that with a IG platoon, assume you 13" away to get the 7" average random charge distance.

Platoon moves forward 1" , FRRR rapid fire at 12" in my turn then overwatch rapid fire and your front guys die (new wound allocation) in your turn. You roll less than 7" for the charge I shoot you again next turn .

(assuming the rumours are true)

Wait wat.jpg

I thought it was 2D6 pick the highest for charge.

RatWolf wrote:I thought it was 2D6 pick the highest for charge.

I got it from the rumour page

Bongfu wrote: Confirmed with the new rulebook. Sorry, typed these out on the phone with my cousin in Wales.

Charging is 2d6. Assault marines and cavalry get to reroll. Charging through cover, take the highest dice away. Assaulting through terrain makes you I1.

It may be wrong. I cancelled the BRB to buy more warmachine

Yes!!! Sounds good.

I'll get the rulebook later when they bring out the two player set.

Cant wait for 6th hope it gets rid of the current competitive style in 5th ed, and makes the game feel more fluff-wise, that would be awesome

Well due to someone not emailing me their list and checking to confirm I had recieved it they have thrown their toys out of their pram so we have one space available now
So open to offers


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Oh and apparently I make the rules up as I go along !!!!

Bring your Army and join in like last time , leave the hard work to Bill

With me attending there were 24 now 23 ergo me not playing

surely we can find one last person somewhere, surely.

Well 1 possibly 2 more not coming now

Hey dudes, how did it go?

Still hoping to interest some of you guys to join this narrative campaign weekend in Mansfield at the end of the year!



Animosity - In the Discordia System

The days got moved back so the tournemant is tommorow!

Mansfieldnis quite a distance for us to travel xD

RatWolf wrote:Mansfieldnis quite a distance for us to travel xD

I'm aware, I'm travelling from Newcastle! It should be a great event though so worth the travelling. There are details for hotels on the thread too.

Who's excited !!

Ian, Michael says will you remember them models ?

Well I would be if Id hadn't truly made a massive scheduling boob!

As well I never committed as I'd have been heading on the warpath two weeks too soon!

Well, enjoy dudes.

RatWolf wrote:Who's excited !!

Ian, Michael says will you remember them models ?

They are boxed and ready, I sorted out the BS 2 ones for him and kept the Vets

Cant wait for this only 9 hours left...

Make that 2

Top weekend mate!!!!

Go out with a bang! Loved it!!!

Thanks for hosting the Tournie again, enjoy the downtime, see you with your new edition ( the baby not 6th )

The baby would be a new ''addition'' not ''edition'' so...

RatWolf wrote:The baby would be a new ''addition'' not ''edition'' so...

Maybe the smiley wasnt subtle enough?

Touch of Thread-o-mancy here;

What would you guys prefer for a one day tourney.

1500pts - Singles.

or 750 per player Doubles?

RatWolf wrote:Touch of Thread-o-mancy here;

What would you guys prefer for a one day tourney.

1500pts - Singles.

or 750 per player Doubles?

1500 single for me

^ I agree.

Single 1500pt for me as well. 2 player with allies would give the possibility of 4 interacting forces per Team.

Are fortifications and allies in?

in a doubles i wouldnt allow allies.

Erm, allies deffo. BUT!!! I'll have to play with the fortification rules to what effect they actually have.