I recently bought the blood angels furioso dreadnought kit for the purpose of building a Death Company Dread. I plan on running this unit with a pair of blood talons, but I would also like the option to use a pair of blood fists and the magna-grapple if the mood strikes me. Upon assembly of the model I notice that the sprues contain (8) blood fist "fingers" and (6) blood talon "fingers", but the model requires (2) of the blood fist "fingers" to complete the blood talons. Therefore you can only choose one or the other to build!

Really!!! You cheap SOB's couldn't put just 2 more blood fist "finger's" on the sprue!! Don't tell me that there wasn't room, each one is about the size of a maggot!!! And what about the cost?? 2 PIECES OF PLASTIC THAT ARE ACTUALLY SMALLER THAN MOST OF THE SPRUE COULDN'T COST MORE THAN .03 CENTS!!!!! Just one more way GW puts the screw to us as the customer, what do they expect me to do? Buy another $40 model, just for (2) fingers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rant over!

I am having difficulty finding sympathy for someone running Blood Talons and coming up naught

TedNugent wrote:I am having difficulty finding sympathy for someone running Blood Talons and coming up naught

This.

Who cares? just put on whatever and call it whatever.

sub-zero wrote:

Really? At least your army's kits have all the options in the box. Cry to a chaos or Sisters player and see what it gets you...

There is much anger in the OP.

Calm down, take a breath, go get drunk. I'm sure if you make it look scary enough with whatever you have, your opponent will believe when you call them blood talons.

Frankly, I wouldn't know the difference, so long as you say what they are and paid the points. A scary looking fist/talon thing is still a scary looking fist/talon thing.

LOL not @ OP but at the picture...

Flex your conversion muscle.

IMO if I were to run blood talons, I would pick up a talos( or a Soulgrinder) kit and see what I could drum up with the Dread.


Will it cost more? Yes.

Will it be cool as all get out on the field? Yes


But you're talking to a guy that runs four Daemon Heralds on Chariots (AKA models that don't exist and I had to kitbash ) and spend about 300 bucks total just to trick them out.

Same goes for anyone that made ANYTHING for nids that was just recently released as a kit. They had to put some good money into it, but they look way better than the GW kit.

Edit: I forgot they changed the look of the Talos when they made the new DE so that one wouldn't work as well, but now I wanna make a Blood Talon dread with some kitbashing. *Off to GW's website*

i noticed that too. very strange considering they give you two sets of the circular finger attachement things.

but overall i think it's a great kit.

Obviously you are getting screwed by getting into this hobby

GW has the leet scamz

Basically when you have people that will buy anything, everyone else with a passing interest should stay far, far away

I thought not having spare parts (unless absolutely necessary) was pretty par for the course with GW kits. I'm not sure why this particular instance is so shocking. Besides that, it's always a good idea to check the sprue (as can be done with the newer kits on GW's website) to see if it comes with what you need.

Bottom line, this is the whole reason we have conversions.

Xca|iber wrote:I thought not having spare parts (unless absolutely necessary) was pretty par for the course with GW kits. I'm not sure why this particular instance is so shocking. Besides that, it's always a good idea to check the sprue (as can be done with the newer kits on GW's website) to see if it comes with what you need.

Bottom line, this is the whole reason we have conversions.

If this sort of thing is typical, all the more reason to get upset.

I saw the title of this thread and thought "well, this should be pretty good". It didnt really live up to expectations. Really you're only ranting about that, why not go off on GW about all the other stuff they do to piss off their customer base. Not only does this post seem to be very self centered in that you're only concerned about the stuff thats happened to you, but it also seems to lack a purpose. What did you expect to come out of this? Did you expect a bunch of other angry agreements? Are we supposed to form an angry mob, get on a plane, and go storm the GW Nottingham HQ to demand better sprue design? This is the internet, why would you rant to us when you know that the only responses you'll get are ones like this or the ones before mine?

TedNugent wrote:

Xca|iber wrote:I thought not having spare parts (unless absolutely necessary) was pretty par for the course with GW kits. I'm not sure why this particular instance is so shocking. Besides that, it's always a good idea to check the sprue (as can be done with the newer kits on GW's website) to see if it comes with what you need.

Bottom line, this is the whole reason we have conversions.

If this sort of thing is typical, all the more reason to get upset.

I don't really see any reason to be upset. As with any luxury hobby, it's a good idea to do a bit of research before investing any money in the product. I've only been in this hobby for a little over 2 years and after my first couple of purchases I became well aware of the scarcity of bits.

It's not great form to just assume that a kit has enough spare bits to build fully complete "exchangeable" parts, then get angry when that isn't the case.

Sure, GW would be a lot better if you got more for your money, but I just don't see why this example is somehow more terrible than any other bitz-related nuisance.

/2cents

Yay, GW complain thread!

sub-zero wrote: Upon assembly of the model I notice that the sprues contain (8) blood fist "fingers" and (6) blood talon "fingers", but the model requires (2) of the blood fist "fingers" to complete the blood talons. Therefore you can only choose one or the other to build!

Unless you just leave the shorter finger off the talons.

Nobody will even notice.

Oh no, two really tiny fingers for a hand are missing in my box! I shouldn't suck it up and convert them for myself or leave them off, I should write a really angry, impassioned, and poorly thought out post! I definitely couldn't make do!

Honestly, what you should have done is use the two fingers as the bottom claw on each hand, then used the claws themselves for the other three fingers, with them facing the top. It's really not hard and pretty much nobody will notice. Alternately, spend like three bucks on eBay and buy the bits. This is, at worst, a "GW, realy?" moment, not a "GW is literally Satan and Saddam Hussein's lovechild" one.

EDIT: Removed one part I thought was too acerbic.

Yeah man! My Carnifex kit only comes with one set of devourers! And my Hive Tyrant kit doesn't come with any!
This is absurd! We should revolt!

Or, you know... not care.

I have no mouth and I must bitch.

Brother SRM wrote:I have no mouth and I must bitch.

Parody of I have no mouth and I must scream?

And OP, depending on how many dreads you plan on fielding at once, you can say blood talon is blood fist and vice versa easily.

It's just like the Tactical Marine boxes. The codex has options for lots of weapons, but you only have the bolter, flamer, or plasma gun.

LunaHound wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:I have no mouth and I must bitch.

Parody of I have no mouth and I must scream?

That is the joke.
This is a post explaining the joke.

sub-zero wrote:

Rant over!

Get over it! I have to buy so many kits for my Chaos Marines. I converted my additonal CC weapon for my Defiler and you don't see me act like an emo kid. Use a magic thing call Green Stuff. It looks like this:

They should sell power sword sprues they'd make some $$$.

Great White wrote:Yay, GW complain thread!

This.

If you think it is GW's duty to make their kits as modular as possible you are sorely mistaken. Their job is to sell models, our job is to be creative.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440192a&prodId=prod900150a

They use 1 normal claw/finger on each blood talon and 3 blood talon claw/fingers.

Great White wrote:Yay, GW complain thread!

That time of the week already, I see.

I got that beat. The Ork Nobs box comes with five nobs but only three powerklaws. It's infuriating. And the AoBR Nobs don't come with any options.

warpcrafter wrote:I got that beat. The Ork Nobs box comes with five nobs but only three powerklaws. It's infuriating. And the AoBR Nobs don't come with any options.

Wound allocation is one cool thing.

Holy gak is this thread really happening?

The Blood Talon assembly uses 3 long fingers and one short. The short finger is the hand's "thumb". See pictured Death Company Dreadnought.





Next time please make use of your Eyeballs before flying off the handle.
EDIT: Also, I can't believe how unhelpful everyone was with this apparent mystery. I'm giving this entire thread a 3/10.

I spent £60 for a 75 point model. Stop complaining.

It was a hydra though...

Still, plasticard is your friend. so is Greenstuff.

ph34r wrote:Holy gak is this thread really happening?

The Blood Talon assembly uses 3 long fingers and one short. The short finger is the hand's "thumb". See pictured Death Company Dreadnought.





Next time please make use of your Eyeballs before flying off the handle.
EDIT: Also, I can't believe how unhelpful everyone was with this apparent mystery. I'm giving this entire thread a 3/10.

Perhaps he did not know. Some people are not observant.

sub-zero wrote:I recently bought the blood angels furioso dreadnought kit for the purpose of building a Death Company Dread. I plan on running this unit with a pair of blood talons, but I would also like the option to use a pair of blood fists and the magna-grapple if the mood strikes me. Upon assembly of the model I notice that the sprues contain (8) blood fist "fingers" and (6) blood talon "fingers", but the model requires (2) of the blood fist "fingers" to complete the blood talons. Therefore you can only choose one or the other to build!

Really!!! You cheap SOB's couldn't put just 2 more blood fist "finger's" on the sprue!! Don't tell me that there wasn't room, each one is about the size of a maggot!!! And what about the cost?? 2 PIECES OF PLASTIC THAT ARE ACTUALLY SMALLER THAN MOST OF THE SPRUE COULDN'T COST MORE THAN .03 CENTS!!!!! Just one more way GW puts the screw to us as the customer, what do they expect me to do? Buy another $40 model, just for (2) fingers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rant over!

Hmmm, I;m finding it very hard to feel sad for someone that doesn't have blood talons!

Man alive, go spead 6$ at a bit store or ebay and get two replacement arms with the taloons... yeesh!

I knew someone who flipped out when I told them the trant kit has no wings, but by the time they had enough money for it the new winged one came out.

I demand autocannon arms as well! arrrg rant rave blarg. And how come I don't have enough psycannon bits? I demand more psycannons for my purifiers. Phew, ok rant done. Continue along. Nothing to see here.

sudojoe wrote:I demand autocannon arms as well! arrrg rant rave blarg. And how come I don't have enough psycannon bits? I demand more psycannons for my purifiers. Phew, ok rant done. Continue along. Nothing to see here.

I think Necrons would like a word with you.

I'm giving this entire thread a 3/10.

One more than I gave it.

But seriously, there are lots of examples of GW not supplying correct/enough/useful bits and bobs with kits, just trade/convert/greenstuff or simply go without.
Unless my tank is missing an actual set of tracks or something it isnt usually a game breaker.
And whilst I acknowledge the OPs frustration, getting a good nights sleep and some perspective will help a lot.

This kid would have hated the old days when the dreadnoughts were all metal and only came with one weapons configuration. If you wanted a missile launcher, you had better have wanted a twin lascannon too, lol.

Just make an extra finger out of plastic card or something, if it really is "the size of a maggot".

Your point being sir?

Thanks for the pic =o]

@op grow up and make your own. Cut some sprue, buy some plastic card. You can afford GW models so you should be able to afford plastic card.

sub-zero wrote:I recently bought the blood angels furioso dreadnought kit for the purpose of building a Death Company Dread. I plan on running this unit with a pair of blood talons, but I would also like the option to use a pair of blood fists and the magna-grapple if the mood strikes me. Upon assembly of the model I notice that the sprues contain (8) blood fist "fingers" and (6) blood talon "fingers", but the model requires (2) of the blood fist "fingers" to complete the blood talons. Therefore you can only choose one or the other to build!

Really!!! You cheap SOB's couldn't put just 2 more blood fist "finger's" on the sprue!! Don't tell me that there wasn't room, each one is about the size of a maggot!!! And what about the cost?? 2 PIECES OF PLASTIC THAT ARE ACTUALLY SMALLER THAN MOST OF THE SPRUE COULDN'T COST MORE THAN .03 CENTS!!!!! Just one more way GW puts the screw to us as the customer, what do they expect me to do? Buy another $40 model, just for (2) fingers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rant over!

Have you tried clipplin small pieces of sprue to make the extra phalanges you need?

ph34r wrote:Holy gak is this thread really happening?

The Blood Talon assembly uses 3 long fingers and one short. The short finger is the hand's "thumb". See pictured Death Company Dreadnought.





Next time please make use of your Eyeballs before flying off the handle.
EDIT: Also, I can't believe how unhelpful everyone was with this apparent mystery. I'm giving this entire thread a 3/10.

To be fair, I was 4 posts earlier than you with this info.

SlaveToDorkness wrote:

Really? At least your army's kits have all the options in the box. Cry to a chaos or Sisters player and see what it gets you...

This. I'm making tyranids at the moment and one of the most popular weapons (MC Devourer) only comes in one kit, and typically, 4 are needed per MC. They come 2 to a kit in the kit for the least popular MC.

And you complain about lacking 2 fingers that aren't even necessary.

To be fair, I'm still amazed that we should consider normal for them not to provide all the options for a unit in the box. They often include a bunch of cosmetic accessories and variation, but if you're hoping to get all your weapon options, better not hold your breath...

Ah, when I was young GW redesigned the Epic boxes so instead of $20 they cost $15. The only problem? You only got half the bitz you needed for a full unit!

So yeah, don't whine to me about GW leaving stuff out

ph34r wrote:Holy gak is this thread really happening?

The Blood Talon assembly uses 3 long fingers and one short. The short finger is the hand's "thumb". See pictured Death Company Dreadnought.





Next time please make use of your Eyeballs before flying off the handle.
EDIT: Also, I can't believe how unhelpful everyone was with this apparent mystery. I'm giving this entire thread a 3/10.

Um.... he's complaining that you cannot make two sets of DCCW hands with one kit. Since each hand takes 4 fingers and the kit comes with 14 fingers. Needing 16 to make two complete sets.

I give your reading comprehension a 3/10.

I do find it odd that they include two sets of the round part the fingers go on and not two sets of fingers to put in said round things.

@Kid K- I remember those days. I remember when the Eldar sets had only 1 model of the really good units (Exarchs, Banshees, Reapers) per sprue. So you got one base worth of models per box. Of course I just put one model on each base and got around that!

@ OP


Please don't pollute this forum with your pointless whining. I mean, you can't use both bloodclaws AND fists? So bloody what! I can't build both deathmarks AND immortals, and I sure as hell don't bitch about it.

why would you want Blood fists on DCD anyway?

WOW, so many hateful responces to this post. LOL Let me clarify a few things, I did not create this topic to "bitch" or "whine" about GW, I was making a point that GW could have included the peices in question, but CHOSE not to. Why? Was it becuase of added expense for two very small peices of plastic, I don't think so. Was it becuase there wasn't enough room on the sprue? No, I don't think that was it either. So that really only leaves one reason as to not include the parts required, and that is pure greed. I'm still going to continue to purchase models from GW, I don't have any other options, that is what's known as a monopoly. Apperantly the laws concerning monopolys are fairly lax in the UK, I don't think we as customers would be subject to these kind of business practices, if GW were a U.S. based company. We actually enforce the laws to prevent the monopoly of a business.

Now, can I use extra sprue or plasticard to make the extra "fingers", yes I can. But the real point is that I shouldn't have to. I spent $40 on two small plastic sprues, the fact that I HAVE to fabricate the peices needed comes of a pure greed by the company that is charging a premium price for a product that they are monopolizing on.


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Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:why would you want Blood fists on DCD anyway?

I want the option. That's all. I just want the ability to chose which one, not be forced into one or the other. y'know?

sub-zero wrote:Now, can I use extra sprue or plasticard to make the extra "fingers", yes I can. But the real point is that I shouldn't have to. I spent $40 on two small plastic sprues, the fact that I HAVE to fabricate the peices needed comes of a pure greed by the company that is charging a premium price for a product that they are monopolizing on.

You gave that business money. Businesses love money.

Seriously - you act like this is newfound knowledge for you. If that's the case, then I'm sorry you're that naive.

It's not that bad... before forgeworld had autocannons for dreads, i bought x2 these:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod20006a

for my 2x dreadnoughts in my GK army...

Where did you get your signature from Sub Z?
Pretty cool.

sub-zero wrote:...enforce the laws to prevent the monopoly of a business.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

GW does not have a monopoly on War Games. You can play Infinity, Warmachine, Brushfire, or any other game you'd like. GW cannot prevent you from purchasing from them.

On to your rant, use the blood claws as DCCW. That's all I've ever seen people use. It's silly, as that's not the point of the dread, but it's your model. Do what you want. Alternatively, you can get a DCCW pretty cheaply on ebay from the Assault on Black Reach model.

However, something you will see with GW is that you don't always get as many of the bits you want. Another example of this is the Power Klaws for Orks. The Nob box only has 3 (I think), when most people would like 5 or more...

sub-zero wrote:WOW, so many hateful responces to this post...I did not create this topic to "bitch" or "whine" about GW...

Unfortunately, that's exaclty what your first post was, which is why you got negative feedback. If you have a complaint about a model and/or packaging, you can do so without coming off so rudely. Calling them "unfair dumbasses" in the title is an example of bitching.


Best of luck, man.

whats worng with runnng them as 3 fingered?

i know GW is not generous with the bitz they include in some boxes (tactical squad, nobz, crons) but then there are some boxes with a ton of extra bits (SM devestators come to mind)

i get why you are annoyed OP it would bug me to but we must soldier on or desert and go play other games its really you decision

kronk wrote:

sub-zero wrote:...enforce the laws to prevent the monopoly of a business.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

GW does not have a monopoly on War Games. You can play Infinity, Warmachine, Brushfire, or any other game you'd like. GW cannot prevent you from purchasing from them.

On to your rant, use the blood claws as DCCW. That's all I've ever seen people use. It's silly, as that's not the point of the dread, but it's your model. Do what you want. Alternatively, you can get a DCCW pretty cheaply on ebay from the Assault on Black Reach model.

However, something you will see with GW is that you don't always get as many of the bits you want. Another example of this is the Power Klaws for Orks. The Nob box only has 3 (I think), when most people would like 5 or more...

sub-zero wrote:WOW, so many hateful responces to this post...I did not create this topic to "bitch" or "whine" about GW...

Unfortunately, that's exaclty what your first post was, which is why you got negative feedback. If you have a complaint about a model and/or packaging, you can do so without coming off so rudely. Calling them "unfair dumbasses" in the title is an example of bitching.


Best of luck, man.

Apperantly, you can't use blood talons as DCCW's, I wish I could though. LOL

zantis wrote: Are we supposed to form an angry mob, get on a plane, and go storm the GW Nottingham HQ to demand better sprue design?

Yes! let's do it! Not that I have any particular hate for GW but the thought of doing something like this for osmething so trivial as a plastic toy soldier company would be hilarious.

Occupy GW!

We wrote:

zantis wrote: Are we supposed to form an angry mob, get on a plane, and go storm the GW Nottingham HQ to demand better sprue design?

Yes! let's do it! Not that I have any particular hate for GW but the thought of doing something like this for osmething so trivial as a plastic toy soldier company would be hilarious.

Occupy GW!

I'm on hotwire.com getting a group rate right now. LOL

@OP

I just cut a lighting claw off from a terminator kit for the extra "thumb" on the blood talons. I magnetized the arms to be able to run Blood Talons or DCCW. I also magnetized the base and the top so it could be carried by a Stormraven (the smoke launcher goes on after it is deployed).

/\ /\ that looks uncomfortable

Yeah, gotta agree with Kronk-you have other game choices. GW is not, and will never be, a monopoly, so long as ANY other war games exist. Get rid of Mantic, PP, Infinity, Malifaux, FOW, Battletech...maybe then GW would be a monopoly. Oh, but wait-you have Avatars of War, Reaper, DnD, Heroclix, Scibor, Chapterhouse, and a ton of others making minis (and games). There's no chance of GW being, or becoming, a monopoly. Because even on the .00000001% chance of all of those companies going under before GW, others will take their places.

And to your original point, we know GW doesn't add in full options, or allow you to make all options in a single kit-it happens. It sucks, but they ARE a company out to make money-you want a blood talon dread and a bloodfist dread? Buy one of each, or custom build the one finger, or get 2 fingers off ebay/swap shop (not everyone uses both sets of hands, you CAN find them). You don't have to give extra money to GW and buy a full kit-it's an option, but you have other options too. GW just hopes some people WILL opt to buy multiple kits. It's not really THAT uncommon for a business.

Hope that info helps a bit. And the [only] reason you got such harsh feedback from everyone was your constant faux-swearing, angry attitude that also had the distinct sound of whining. You portrayed yourself in a negative light, so everyone responded as such. A mature, adult post will garner adult responses (from everyone except the jerks). Post like an 8 year old, and people will respond to the level you set. This isn't a flaming post, it's just a social fact, and I'm trying to make a suggestion to help you avoid similar responses in the future.

I think its time to close this rant-thread, especially since the OP hasn't responded (or probably even read it) since the responses started rolling in...

If you weren't so dismissive, you'd know he has.

SlaveToDorkness wrote:Um.... he's complaining that you cannot make two sets of DCCW hands with one kit. Since each hand takes 4 fingers and the kit comes with 14 fingers. Needing 16 to make two complete sets.

I give your reading comprehension a 3/10.

I do find it odd that they include two sets of the round part the fingers go on and not two sets of fingers to put in said round things.

@Kid K- I remember those days. I remember when the Eldar sets had only 1 model of the really good units (Exarchs, Banshees, Reapers) per sprue. So you got one base worth of models per box. Of course I just put one model on each base and got around that!

What? He wants to make four arms out of the box? I guess now I see why everyone's getting mad at him.

ph34r wrote:

SlaveToDorkness wrote:Um.... he's complaining that you cannot make two sets of DCCW hands with one kit. Since each hand takes 4 fingers and the kit comes with 14 fingers. Needing 16 to make two complete sets.

I give your reading comprehension a 3/10.

I do find it odd that they include two sets of the round part the fingers go on and not two sets of fingers to put in said round things.

@Kid K- I remember those days. I remember when the Eldar sets had only 1 model of the really good units (Exarchs, Banshees, Reapers) per sprue. So you got one base worth of models per box. Of course I just put one model on each base and got around that!

What? He wants to make four arms out of the box? I guess now I see why everyone's getting mad at him.

O for the love....I don't want to make 4 arms, I just don't understand why they give me (4) of the round "finger holders", each one hold 4 fingers, but only give me 14 "fingers". If you all can't see what's wrong with this, then my hope for the human race just slipped a little. I know that it would be easier to fabricate them, or buy bitz off of fee-bay, but I don't feel that I should have to, THEY SHOULD HAVE COME INCLUDED IN THE KIT.

sub-zero wrote:
O for the love....I don't want to make 4 arms, I just don't understand why they give me (4) of the round "finger holders", each one hold 4 fingers, but only give me 14 "fingers". If you all can't see what's wrong with this, then my hope for the human race just slipped a little. I know that it would be easier to fabricate them, or buy bitz off of fee-bay, but I don't feel that I should have to, THEY SHOULD HAVE COME INCLUDED IN THE KIT.

Nobody's saying that it's not stupid. It would be great if kits came with more parts. However, you must be extraordinarily naive or oblivious if this incident is what ruined your opinion of Games Workshop. Also, saying, "If you all can't see what's wrong with this, then my hope for the human race just slipped a little" doesn't make you seem any less prone to overreactions.

Is what happened to you a nuisance? Sure. Is this incident shocking, unbelievable evidence of GW asshattery? Not really. GW does a lot of stupid things to earn the ire of the 40k player-base, but as far as heinous business decisions go, failing to include a couple of fingers in a Dreadnought kit ranks pretty low on that list.

The problem I have with this entire thing is that you seem to have no sympathy towards any other races. When other members started bashing you, you could have come out and said "well with this model, you don't get any special weapons/ a super awesome common upgrade on this set doesn't come with anything/ ect."

Instead, you came back stating that two small easily replaceable/ convertable fingers is still the only thing upsetting you.

I play guard. In an infantry box set (which costs 29$, try building a infantry heavy army at that price) you can choose between a flamer or a grenade launcher. Where is the plasma gun? Melta gun? Not there. In the command squad, you can make one of every special weapon. Who does something like that? Where are my other 3 melta gins? Not there. Perhaps the biggest one is the valkyrie. 3 twin linked lascannons. Set comes with 1 non twin linked one for $62. There are tons of other examples for just guard alone (let alone other army's, aka pre new release tyranids).

How often do we come on here with an opening post complaining on such an epic scale? Exactly.

Just leave the fourth "Finger" off, no one will care.

And then you only need 12, and you have 14, problem solved.

DeathReaper wrote:Just leave the fourth "Finger" off, no one will care, or notice ...

...fixed

I don't see why you are complaining...why not just magnetize the "fingers" and paint the "thumb" so that way it can count as both a Blood Fist and Blood Talons when needed.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Space-Marine-Furioso-Dreadnought-Fist-with-Blood-Talons-Claws-/250989487293?pt=AU_Miniatures&hash=item3a7023a4bd#ht_1106wt_1000

Oh look, I solved your problem.

/thread

azazel the cat wrote:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Space-Marine-Furioso-Dreadnought-Fist-with-Blood-Talons-Claws-/250989487293?pt=AU_Miniatures&hash=item3a7023a4bd#ht_1106wt_1000

Oh look, I solved your problem.

/thread

$6 +$4 for shipping is a bit OTT for 10 grams of plasitc bits...

Ignatius wrote:Perhaps the biggest one is the valkyrie. 3 twin linked lascannons. Set comes with 1 non twin linked one for $62. There are tons of other examples for just guard alone (let alone other army's, aka pre new release tyranids).

Just sayin, the Valkyrie only has one lascannon.

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Ignatius wrote:Perhaps the biggest one is the valkyrie. 3 twin linked lascannons. Set comes with 1 non twin linked one for $62. There are tons of other examples for just guard alone (let alone other army's, aka pre new release tyranids).

Just sayin, the Valkyrie only has one lascannon.

And besides, guardsmen players generally have enough spare lascannons to just, idk...make a vendetta from a valkyrie?

sub-zero wrote:

Companies are known for their greed. If you don't like it quit. I don't get all the options either deal with it. You justify your whining. It is insanely bad that your rant is about something so small you can fix yourself. Are you have OCD or something? It is something that small it does not matter.

This is an ugly thread.
Dakka at its worst.

Joey wrote:This is an ugly thread.
Dakka at its worst.

Isn't it great?!

MAI DREEDNOT NEDZ MOAR FINGARZ!!1

Also, the hell is with your sig? 8,021 wins? O_o'

Joey wrote:This is an ugly thread.
Dakka at its worst.

I very rarely agree with you, but today I make an exception.

Knights-Abhorrent wrote:

Joey wrote:This is an ugly thread.
Dakka at its worst.

Isn't it great?!

MAI DREEDNOT NEDZ MOAR FINGARZ!!1

Also, the hell is with your sig? 8,021 wins? O_o'

I was referring more to the outright trolling by about a dozen or so people.
And my sig is a piss-take. Everyone on here seems to have twice as many wins as losses, a statistical miracle.

Joey wrote:
I was referring more to the outright trolling by about a dozen or so people.

Are you kidding? That's the only good thing about this thread.

That's like saying only being on fire for a short while is a good thing...

Brother SRM wrote:

Joey wrote:
I was referring more to the outright trolling by about a dozen or so people.

Are you kidding? That's the only good thing about this thread.

Someone posting a complaint about GW's kit doesn't mean a)you can troll the thread relentlessly or b)You can be rude to the poster.

And my sig is a piss-take. Everyone on here seems to have twice as many wins as losses, a statistical miracle.

To be fair I lol'd.

Iur_tae_mont wrote:Flex your conversion muscle.

IMO if I were to run blood talons, I would pick up a talos( or a Soulgrinder) kit and see what I could drum up with the Dread.


Will it cost more? Yes.

Will it be cool as all get out on the field? Yes


But you're talking to a guy that runs four Daemon Heralds on Chariots (AKA models that don't exist and I had to kitbash ) and spend about 300 bucks total just to trick them out.

Same goes for anyone that made ANYTHING for nids that was just recently released as a kit. They had to put some good money into it, but they look way better than the GW kit.

Edit: I forgot they changed the look of the Talos when they made the new DE so that one wouldn't work as well, but now I wanna make a Blood Talon dread with some kitbashing. *Off to GW's website*

Always nice to hear someone else has made some chariots for daemons.

Well, I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet and fabricate some "fingers" out of left over sprue material. Wasn't looking to "make" my own parts, but whatever.

Depending on how thick they are you may be better off using plastic card. That's if you have to whittle down the sprue a fair bit to get it to size. Good luck.

Joey wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

Joey wrote:
I was referring more to the outright trolling by about a dozen or so people.

Are you kidding? That's the only good thing about this thread.

Someone posting a complaint about GW's kit doesn't mean a)you can troll the thread relentlessly or b)You can be rude to the poster.

You can if he's a complete hostile, dick about it. No one likes a loudmouthed jerk, and he certainly came across as one in his OP.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Joey wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

Joey wrote:
I was referring more to the outright trolling by about a dozen or so people.

Are you kidding? That's the only good thing about this thread.

Someone posting a complaint about GW's kit doesn't mean a)you can troll the thread relentlessly or b)You can be rude to the poster.

You can if he's a complete hostile, dick about it. No one likes a loudmouthed jerk, and he certainly came across as one in his OP.

If I was being a "loud mouthed jerk", it was directed at GW, not anyone on this forum. Unless your the CEO of GW, i don't see how my post offended you, besides, if you don't like the post, don't read it.

sub-zero wrote:
If I was being a "loud mouthed jerk", it was directed at GW, not anyone on this forum. Unless your the CEO of GW, i don't see how my post offended you, besides, if you don't like the post, don't read it.

I think what people are getting at is this: If you're getting so upset about a dreadnought kit not having a few extra pieces then you'd probably have an aneurysm if you played Tyranids, Guard, (Horde) Black Templars, Pre-5th DE, or Sisters of Battle. No one is belittling the problem of not having enough parts in a kit. People are just criticizing your gross overreaction to a relatively small issue as compared to the problem of many kits either not existing or simply not coming with enough parts to make legal options (chainswords for BT, plasma guns for IG, whole sets for Tyranids, etc.).

People are offended because your attitude comes off as though you think you're the only one that GW has screwed over with its packaging policies, and you back up that attitude with an incredibly weak example of GW bad-kit-making.

Sooooo I should NOT be upset because GW is failing in not just my army, but all of them???? riiiiiiight

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Ignatius wrote:Perhaps the biggest one is the valkyrie. 3 twin linked lascannons. Set comes with 1 non twin linked one for $62. There are tons of other examples for just guard alone (let alone other army's, aka pre new release tyranids).

Just sayin, the Valkyrie only has one lascannon.

And besides, guardsmen players generally have enough spare lascannons to just, idk...make a vendetta from a valkyrie?

The 3 twin linked lascannons should have given away that I was refering to the vendetta. The Valkyrie model GW sells does not come with the lascannons, that would make it into a vendetta. And I prefer to use my lascannons in my heavy weapons squads.

And yes OP. You should be upset about everyone's armies being shafted. Not just yours. When you say that the only thing important to you is whether your army is outfitted right makes you sound horrendously selfish.

I surely don't recall saying that MY army was the only one affected by GW's greed, but the fact remains that this dreadnought is still sitting on MY desk, unfinished, waiting for me to fabricate parts that should have been included in the first place.

Ignatius wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Ignatius wrote:Perhaps the biggest one is the valkyrie. 3 twin linked lascannons. Set comes with 1 non twin linked one for $62. There are tons of other examples for just guard alone (let alone other army's, aka pre new release tyranids).

Just sayin, the Valkyrie only has one lascannon.

And besides, guardsmen players generally have enough spare lascannons to just, idk...make a vendetta from a valkyrie?

The 3 twin linked lascannons should have given away that I was refering to the vendetta. The Valkyrie model GW sells does not come with the lascannons, that would make it into a vendetta. And I prefer to use my lascannons in my heavy weapons squads.

I know, that's what I meant

sub-zero wrote:I surely don't recall saying that MY army was the only one affected by GW's greed, but the fact remains that this dreadnought is still sitting on MY desk, unfinished, waiting for me to fabricate parts that should have been included in the first place.

You can't finish it because you have to build an extra set of arms? Can you cite where GW says they give you the option to build one of every option in the kit?

You get three torsos... why aren't you complaining you can't build 3 dreads?

sub-zero wrote:I surely don't recall saying that MY army was the only one affected by GW's greed, but the fact remains that this dreadnought is still sitting on MY desk, unfinished, waiting for me to fabricate parts that should have been included in the first place.

The kit gives you the --> *OPTION* <-- of which Dread you build from the kit. GW have never endorsed the idea behind magnetising otherwise they'd sell magnets

Just because it doesn't give you the parts to make EVERY option isn't reason to have a pissy fit.
Consider the fact that GW sell these kits with the three-in-one option. You call them cheap?

If they were really cheap and really wanted to rip you off, they just sell each setup individually.

Cry moar plox.

MODS, feel free to lock this thread. Apperantly no-one on here is willing to try and understand the real reason for this thread, save 1 or 2 good people. The rest of them are responding solely for trolling purposes.

sub-zero wrote:MODS, feel free to lock this thread. Apperantly no-one on here is willing to try and understand the real reason for this thread, save 1 or 2 good people. The rest of them are responding solely for trolling purposes.

Apparently you don't communicate the "real reason" for this thread then.

You ranted and called GW some offensive names because they didn't provide enough fingers to make multiple arms.
You didn't address the fact that the kit never advertises the capability to build multiple arms, nor does it include enough to make one of every option. (you only get one set of legs iirc).

tl;dr - Instead of exploding and ranting on the internet next time, perhaps you should calm down and work around your situation.
Despite what you may think, posting on the internet will guarantee that you get other peoples opinions, and rarely will they be 100% in line with yours.

sub-zero wrote:MODS, feel free to lock this thread. Apperantly no-one on here is willing to try and understand the real reason for this thread, save 1 or 2 good people. The rest of them are responding solely for trolling purposes.

...he trollingly said as he trolled by with his troll