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Post by: BlueDagger
Well Corvus Belli has taken note, got a PM from Bostria. Corvus would like to back a painting contest over here at DakkaDakka and would like a well written proposal from the fans. I however have never run a painting contest before, so I'm looking for a someone that would be willing to take the reigns on this. Please let me know if if you are interested and what you vision is for this event.
I'll handle the prize support logistics portion and comms with Corvus if that helps take some pressure off.
P.S. Bostria wants to propose this to CB heads on Monday, Apr 2nd.
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Post by: Alpharius
I'd be happy to take the reigns on this one!
I'll come up with some rough guidelines and post them here later tonight.
(I'm in California for business this week, so it will be later tonight indeed for any East Coasters!)
Any idea if prize support will be enough for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd place?
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Post by: legoburner
We can offer front page promotion for at least 2 weeks before contest and 2 weeks after contest to give them advertising bang for their buck, linking to any part of their site they want. That is the most effective way of promoting stuff on dakka, with a typical 10-12K of views from wargamers per day. (Site traffic is much much higher than that, but only a small %age of users go to the homepage each day - others use the forum home page or direct links to content or profile pages).
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Post by: Casey's Law
Sounds good, you guys know i'm happy to help to any level you need me. Ask and you shall receive, i have a bad habit of obsessing over a project like this until it's complete.
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Post by: Cave_Dweller
Id be interested in participating!
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Post by: Slarg232
I'd be willing to enter in my Aquila Guard, but I know fully I ain't winning, terrible painter.
Though if I keep entering contests, I'm bound to get better, no?
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Post by: The CF
Count me in too! As soon as we get the details of the competition, I'll be getting to work!
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Post by: perplexiti
Sounds great guys! It'll give me motivation to finish my Haqq.
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Post by: MarcoSkoll
My involvement will depend on exactly what models will qualify for the competition, but I'm certainly interested.
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Post by: Casey's Law
We will need to see what Alpharius has planned. I'm sure you'll be able to take part, Marco!
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Post by: Absolutionis
Please make the first round rather basic. No dioramas, no TAG, no remotes-only, etc. Something that everyone can participate in.
Additionally, give ample time. Enough such that someone not into Infinity can look at the contest, decide to order an Infinity figure or two off the internet, and paint it to a decent degree before realizing Infinity is the best game ever.
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Post by: Alpharius
I think single figure would be fine.
If someone is bold enough to attempt a T.A.G. - go for it!
If someone thinks they can win painting a Palbot - go for it!
Either way, this will be fun!
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Post by: Kanluwen
Oh no.
I think I can win with a NETROD.
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Post by: Alpharius
Go for it!
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Post by: Kanluwen
I'll have to actually start a new one, as my current one is already painted.
But I do need more anyways, according to BlueDagger...
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Post by: Absolutionis
I love Netrods. They're honestly and unironically one of my favorite miniatures. They're adorable for all the reasons the Yudbot isn't.
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Post by: Fafnir
It'd give me another reason to finish my Haq force before summer hits.
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Post by: Pacific
Absolutionis wrote:Please make the first round rather basic. No dioramas, no TAG, no remotes-only, etc. Something that everyone can participate in.
Additionally, give ample time. Enough such that someone not into Infinity can look at the contest, decide to order an Infinity figure or two off the internet, and paint it to a decent degree before realizing Infinity is the best game ever.
I definitely agree with this. I think to begin with, especially considering a lot of people posting are just getting into the game, it needs to be as inclusive as possible.
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Post by: Fafnir
Could just do multiple categories.
Best single mini, best TAG (large model), best diorama, best army, etc.
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Post by: SilverMK2
Pacific wrote:Absolutionis wrote:Please make the first round rather basic. No dioramas, no TAG, no remotes-only, etc. Something that everyone can participate in.
Additionally, give ample time. Enough such that someone not into Infinity can look at the contest, decide to order an Infinity figure or two off the internet, and paint it to a decent degree before realizing Infinity is the best game ever.
I definitely agree with this. I think to begin with, especially considering a lot of people posting are just getting into the game, it needs to be as inclusive as possible.
Plus we need time for Maelstrom to process our orders *shakes fist*
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Post by: Casey's Law
I say keep it simple. One miniature on the base it comes with. Do we know who is organising this and when? If not i don't mind doing it, someone should make the call now though. I don't know whats happening with it. We decided early May for announcement and mid/late May for final entries. But as i say i don't know who is organising what now so that might all change.
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Post by: GoldenKaos
Mine will be abysmally worse than most of the entries, but it seems like a fun thing to do... XD
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Post by: Hindenburg
Can my entry be a Hac Tao... In TO camo?
If it can't be seen it can't be critized!
Jokes aside, I'm game.
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Post by: MarcoSkoll
Ah, the old "Frodo wearing the ring" model... an empty base.
More seriously, if you did it like that old Tau Stealth Suit diorama (that I can't find any pictures of, gorramit) where the model completely matched the background if you looked at it from a certain angle, you'd be a shoo-in.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
This needs to happen.
You have my brush!
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Post by: BlueDagger
It looks like so far this will be a single painted miniature contest to keep it simple and at a level that pro and casual can post up their work. Keep an eye out for more details as we have someone running the show for us now
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Post by: Pacific
That's great news, thanks for the effort on this BlueDagger!
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Post by: endtransmission
Cool, this should be a fun!
Thanks for contacting CB Blue!
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Post by: inquisitorlewis
I will b e spearheading this competition. Lots of talking going on behind the scenes in the DCM area. To be fair to all members I am confirming that it will be a single mini for the first round.
No need to start on anything yet other than planning. I will need a dated WIP picture from everyone who participates to confirm no early starts. Stay tuned for further developments.
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Post by: Fafnir
The model I intend on painting has already been primed and gone over once with an airbrush (just a single colour), would that still be okay?
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Post by: Absolutionis
I'm in the same boat as Fafnir. I have a white-primed model and an excuse to spend tons of time painting it.
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Post by: baseballclu
This sounds awesome I'd love to enter a model, i'm already having ideas for an awesome blood angels librarian! I need to paint my blood angels anyways, this only gives me further cause.
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Post by: Absolutionis
baseballclu wrote:This sounds awesome I'd love to enter a model, i'm already having ideas for an awesome blood angels librarian! I need to paint my blood angels anyways, this only gives me further cause.
Not sure if you're being intentionally facetious, but this contest will be restricted to Infinity miniatures only.
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Post by: SilverMK2
Absolutionis wrote:baseballclu wrote:This sounds awesome I'd love to enter a model, i'm already having ideas for an awesome blood angels librarian! I need to paint my blood angels anyways, this only gives me further cause.
Not sure if you're being intentionally facetious, but this contest will be restricted to Infinity miniatures only.
I think he is just new
Baseballclu - this sub forum is for skirmish scale games, such as Infinity and Malifaux and this proposed painting contest is being used to help boost the visibility of Infinity (a great skirmish game with fantastic models if you are ever interested in playing it) and so will only be open to Infinity models. I believe that there is talk of getting some prize support from the company that make the game too, so certainly worth the investment of even purchasing a single model if you want to enter
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Post by: Charles Rampant
I'd be up for participating. The model in question may be whatever gets impulse-purchased from my FLGS, mind.
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Post by: Casey's Law
I think i've decided on my entry. <evil laugh> It depends on how long we get though, it's going to take ages to do. I have a couple of fall back positions though. If you guys have questions don't worry too much. there will be plenty of time to ask when the official thread goes up. (I didn't tell you but it's already being proof read! ) If you can't hold your water any longer then check out 'Welcome to the Thunderdome,' the last Dakka Painting Competition. I can't promise the answers are identical but it'll give you an idea if you are desperate to know.
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Post by: Pacific
inquisitorlewis wrote:
No need to start on anything yet other than planning. I will need a dated WIP picture from everyone who participates to confirm no early starts. Stay tuned for further developments.
Isn't that little bit OTT? Some people may not know how to 'date' a photo, and we are trying to get as many entries as possible here to grow the community not provide a barrier to entry?
The Infinity community is still small - someone enters a model they have already posted elsewhere previously, someone will have seen it.
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Post by: Casey's Law
The rules are generally the standards Dakka requires, to stop people cheating in order to get the prize. I think that may be the case with what lewis said.
It shouldn't stunt how many people join our community and get involved in Infinity because it's a competition open to all of Dakka. People who have never heard of the game before may be interested in participating.
If you are still worried you might want to pm lewis, i'm not sure if he is reading this thread.
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Post by: Pacific
Well, as long as someone provides an instruction on how to 'date' a photo! There may be others who are similarly useless on computers to me and have no idea!
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Post by: Casey's Law
Haha, yeh i wouldn't no how. Unless he just means to provide a date alongside the photo? I'll check the Thunderdome comp...
Hmm, it doesn't say. We will have to wait and see.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
If you click on an image in the Gallery, you'll notice there's a little bar of information in the bottom righthand corner.
Intelligent camera devices, like my phone, Stamp an image with a TON of information. Anything from the time it was taken, the date, even GPS Coordinates (!!!).
If you check anything in my gallery, everything has that little box of info, since I take all my shots with my phone. I assume that would be good enough of a timestamp.
Or we could do it like taking a hostage and take a photo of it with a current day newspaper!
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Post by: inquisitorlewis
Pacific wrote:inquisitorlewis wrote:
No need to start on anything yet other than planning. I will need a dated WIP picture from everyone who participates to confirm no early starts. Stay tuned for further developments.
Isn't that little bit OTT? Some people may not know how to 'date' a photo, and we are trying to get as many entries as possible here to grow the community not provide a barrier to entry?
The Infinity community is still small - someone enters a model they have already posted elsewhere previously, someone will have seen it.
It's really not very hard to put your wip picture down on top of a newspaper with a date on it. It also isn't very hard to put it in front of your computer screen with a picture of the date on the screen. These are the rules that all the painting comps follow. I see no reason not to keep following those guidelines.
Truthfully though the wip isn't such a huge deal. I am not trying to hinder anyone from joining in.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
I just think Pacific wanted someone to explain 'How to do it' is all.
No worries people.
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Post by: Pacific
Chemical Cutthroat wrote:If you click on an image in the Gallery, you'll notice there's a little bar of information in the bottom righthand corner.
Intelligent camera devices, like my phone, Stamp an image with a TON of information. Anything from the time it was taken, the date, even GPS Coordinates (!!!).
If you check anything in my gallery, everything has that little box of info, since I take all my shots with my phone. I assume that would be good enough of a timestamp.
Or we could do it like taking a hostage and take a photo of it with a current day newspaper!
OK mate awesome I hadn't noticed that before! Just looked at other pics I had previously uploaded and they do indeed have a time/date on them
It's really not very hard to put your wip picture down on top of a newspaper with a date on it.
Randomly, I found some newspapers the other day from the early 80s (that had been used as padding in a box). Would love to do some pictures like that of a new Infinity mini on top of the newspaper, and freak people out with an impossible temporal mechanics paradox
And no worries mate I know you aren't trying to hinder anyone from joining, in fact the help is really appreciated!
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Take a black and white photo of a PanO mini standing on top of a paper that reads, "NIXON WINS".
Hilarity ensues.
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Post by: Slarg232
So we are waiting for another thread to come up before we get started painting? My model is primed white and ready.
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Post by: endtransmission
We are indeed waiting for a new thread. There are a few hoops to jump through first; most importantly is getting feedback from CB, along with some details of the prizes they have offered to give to the winner(s).
Watch the front page of Dakka as, I believe, that's where it will appear when it starts.
I need to work out what I'm going to paint now...
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Post by: Casey's Law
It won't be before Tuesday. I'd expect it to be a while after that actually. Choose your models, brushes, paints and stock up on your favourite beverage. It'll be off the ground before you know it!
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Post by: SilverMK2
Come on with my order Maelstrom!
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Post by: inquisitorlewis
Chemical Cutthroat wrote:I just think Pacific wanted someone to explain 'How to do it' is all.
No worries people.
Yeah I realize I may have come off as a smartass. Sorry about that fellows.
I will happily answer any questions that anyone has. I do recommend leaving them for the actual painting contest page though. That way I don't answer the same inquiry 3 different times on three different threads.
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Post by: Death Gear
Can't wait for this to start.
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Post by: Slarg232
So, my model is going to be inspired by Yoruichi from Bleach. At least the woman behind the model is anyway.
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Post by: Cave_Dweller
So will models already painted be viable for this? I just finished up my haqqislam starter set. And I'll be away from home for 3weeks, so if this is planned for April I won't be able to do anything until much later this month.
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Post by: Alpharius
I don't think they will.
You'll need to start fresh, with a dated photo of your primed model...
...I think!
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Post by: endtransmission
That was my understanding too. That's why I'm holding off on doing anything to my Shasvastii
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
I'll be buying something new for it anyways.. probably sooner than later, it can sit in its blister till it starts and I'll get the date when needed. The old Dakka in the background shot most likely.
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Post by: BlueDagger
We have a green light from CB for prize money, and it's very very pretty for the winner
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Post by: Absolutionis
Alpharius wrote:I don't think they will.
You'll need to start fresh, with a dated photo of your primed model...
...I think!
...so I'm assuming primed and assembled models are just fine?
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Post by: Casey's Law
BlueDagger wrote:We have a green light from CB for prize money, and it's very very pretty for the winner 
Yay!! Glad they are on board. I'm picking up my model this week, hopefully i can do it in time!
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Post by: BlueDagger
Hold off on drawing conclusions about the contest till it starts. I believe that the ony requirement is that the model just hasn't been posted on any sites or contests before. Not sure if there wil be a primed dated pic requirement, but leaving that in the hands of lewis
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Post by: The CF
BlueDagger wrote:Hold off on drawing conclusions about the contest till it starts. I believe that the ony requirement is that the model just hasn't been posted on any sites or contests before. Not sure if there wil be a primed dated pic requirement, but leaving that in the hands of lewis
I assume the first part is to prevent people from claiming another person's work as their own?
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Post by: BlueDagger
The CF wrote:BlueDagger wrote:Hold off on drawing conclusions about the contest till it starts. I believe that the ony requirement is that the model just hasn't been posted on any sites or contests before. Not sure if there wil be a primed dated pic requirement, but leaving that in the hands of lewis
I assume the first part is to prevent people from claiming another person's work as their own?
Correct, it also has the added benefit of keeping a god mode painted mini from claiming prizes on every site it enters.
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Post by: The CF
BlueDagger wrote:The CF wrote:BlueDagger wrote:Hold off on drawing conclusions about the contest till it starts. I believe that the ony requirement is that the model just hasn't been posted on any sites or contests before. Not sure if there wil be a primed dated pic requirement, but leaving that in the hands of lewis
I assume the first part is to prevent people from claiming another person's work as their own?
Correct, it also has the added benefit of keeping a god mode painted mini from claiming prizes on every site it enters.
So... If you could prove that it is your model, and you haven't entered it in a competition before, could you still enter it?
Or is the "never uploaded before" absolute?
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
I always thought painting contests were better when you paint the model up for the contest.
Just pulling something awesome out of your case that you did three years ago just sort of bugs me on all sorts of different levels.
Part of a competition is getting something done in a certain amount of time, that's half the fun for me.
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Post by: SilverMK2
I'd have to agree, CC.
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
Yeah I'd have to echo the two posts above, a primed one is dandy, but apart from that, it should be nekkid when it comes to actual colour. Also part of the fun for me in these kind of contests, is the 'race' aspect. Knowing you and a number of other folks are all working away to produce a cool looking model.
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Post by: Slarg232
Fourthed; Cheatins be anything but primed, says I!
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Post by: Ian Sturrock
Really looking forward to this.  Please give us a link to the new thread here.
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Post by: Casey's Law
Fifthed. It just feels wrong to to do it any other way i'm afraid.
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Post by: The CF
Well, even though I was the one asking, I feel like an absolutely new model is the best way to go too.
So consider it sixth'd.
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Post by: Captain Jack
I am gonna have to go to Maelstrom and buy something new for this, hmmm what do I fancy? Thats half the battle for me, and not turning it into anot...hey hoo thats wishfull thinking, as I bet it will turn into another list
Looking forward to getting going on this, great inspiration guys!
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Next up, the Netrod painting competition!
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Post by: inquisitorlewis
Just going to jump in here to give a little clarity on some of your questions. I do prefer to answer them on the official thread but there seems to be some discussion I can help out with.
Anything further along then primed is not eligible for entry. The reason for this is, some miniature painters spend hundreds of hours on a single miniature. A lot of Golded Demon entries are started right after the current years GDs are finished. Same thing goes with Crystal Brush Comp. We very well could see some Infinity minis in the Crystal Brush, since it's an open comp and not manufacturer specific. If a pro painter has been working on an Infinity mini for the last 6 months he has a huge leap on the competition.
That isn't what Dakka painting contests are all about. DPCs are for everyone, not just the pros. We try to make sure everyone involved has the exact same chance as the next guy.
I would expect an announcement very soon. We are just waiting on a few final confirmations behind the scenes.
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Post by: Casey's Law
I'm having some paint shipped from the states to here in Scotland. They should be shipped by the 9th. Do you guys think it'll get here in time? It's for my first layer of paint so i'm a bit worried.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Well considering the competition hasn't been announced yet, I would hold off on the worrying.
I'm not sure what the average timeframe is for a painting comp, but I'm sure your paint will arrive with plenty of time to get stuff done.
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Post by: Casey's Law
Thanks, fingers crossed.
I'll be able to clean/convert the model and basecoat it before the paint arrives. If it takes two weeks to arrive and we have a month to entry date then i'll be fine. I could probably get it done in a week but obviously i want as long as possible to paint it.
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Post by: Captain Jack
He he he, went up to Maelstrom on friday and picked up a Knight of Montessa to paint up
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Post by: Casey's Law
Awesome! I can't wait to see all these epic entries!
If you aren't already, folks: Spread the word, the more people that join in the better this will be for Dakka, Infinity and our community.
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Post by: SilverMK2
Well, my stuff will be shipped by Wednesday (according to the helpful helper from Maelstrom), so I should have a model to paint... now just need to find the time to do it as I have exams and coursework to do for the next month or so now
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Post by: marmaduke
So what's the word on the offical start date aka when does it start?
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Post by: BlueDagger
The final draft has been submitted and it awaiting Yakface's approval and posting.
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Post by: Casey's Law
I was literally just wondering that myself. Haven't heard anything from Lewis for a while...
I'm starting to feel silly for rushing around buying my model, base and paint. It must be going live soon because he was just waiting on a final conformation.
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Post by: Absolutionis
I really hope there's enough time from the start of the competition to order a mini from online/FLGS and get it painted.
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Post by: Von Skyfury
don't start it yet !
I'm still waiting for my models ! =P
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Post by: Casey's Law
There should be loads of time from start to finish(maybe a month), my paints are in the mail as of today, they could take a couple of weeks to turn up. Gives me time to play with the model and maybe convert it a bit.
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Post by: Alpharius
Yak's pretty busy to begin with, plus he's fairly involved with Adepticon too.
I'd say it might be a while, and I'm more than OK with it starting after Adepticon too - figure, say, around April 23rd or so?!?
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
As per the usual, I am super excited and motivated, but I know things can take a bit of time to get moving, especially when they're new.
I haven't rushed out to buy anything yet... as I have managed to snag a Chimera and Pupniks at my FLGS... but I am a little terrified of trying to put her together, so I may go with something more reliable to assemble when I paint.
Or I'll just buy something cool and random and go to town. Much more likely.
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Post by: BlueDagger
I have assembled the Chimera. She is a complete PITA, but soooooooooooooo worth it. You just have to be very very careful with her chain.
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Post by: Hindenburg
I'm waiting on stuff to arrive myself so I'm happy it will be while before it gets started.
Now I'll just decide which model to paint for this.
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Post by: Von Skyfury
Do people usually post the model they will paint ?
Or does it end up the same model could have been painted by several users ?
I would go with the first option if the idea is to promote Infinity and it's wonderful models
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Post by: Casey's Law
You can paint whatever model you want, Von.  There might be a couple of duplicates but most people have a very unique opinion on what models they like most. Others will paint something they already end to buy for their army so we should get a nice range of models entered.
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Post by: SilverMK2
Can't wait for my stuff to arrive - it was posted out on tuesday
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Post by: Arakasi
Me neither... first was posted out yesterday apparently...
Wait! What am I doing here?
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Post by: Casey's Law
Wooo!
Welcome to the best part of Dakka.
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Post by: SilverMK2
I'd love to see some ork/infinity cross over
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Post by: CDK
Easy. Ork=Morat but they are not stupid anymore! I've never liked the orks in 40k!
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Post by: Alpharius
Casey's Law wrote:You can paint whatever model you want, Von.  There might be a couple of duplicates but most people have a very unique opinion on what models they like most. Others will paint something they already end to buy for their army so we should get a nice range of models entered. 
Keep in mind Kanluwen's probably going to be painting a Netrod...
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Post by: Casey's Law
Haha, beast. I'd quite like to see a netrod win
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Post by: Cave_Dweller
Man I can't wait for this. Might do a kameel or buy something new...I guess TAGs will be abundant
Will there be multiple categories, I.e. single figure, mech, group, or just one figure per contestant?
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Post by: Casey's Law
No categories, one figure per contestant. Hopefully there won't be too many TAGs, there are some cool infantry models from Infinity.
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Post by: SilverMK2
I think my stuff arrived this morning, so I will have something to paint
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Post by: Pacific
What are you going to enter SilverMk2? I'm torn at the moment between the Nomad Reverend Morias or perhaps even a basic line infantry model..
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Post by: endtransmission
The idea behind the painting competition is to not know who has entered what, to make the voting fairier
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
Aye, this is why I've not been mentioning what I have, not even the faction. Just that I have figures to paint.
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Post by: SilverMK2
Not sure what I will be entering - will take a look at the models and will see what I like best - also need to settle on a colour scheme
Have about 12 models topick from though
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Post by: Casey's Law
Yeh, keep what model you are entering on the down low guys.  Not only is it fairer but it's more fun.
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Post by: Arakasi
I thought you might have been worried about it appending to your previous post
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Post by: Casey's Law
Haha, i was indeed.
Can't wait to get stuck into the model, time for a little green stuff!
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Post by: Von Skyfury
Only 1 month !!? =P
I estimate still 2 weeks before I get these =(
I just hope it won't be longer
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Post by: CDK
My FLGS is really slow at getting new stuff in too. It might be few more weeks until I get the new Noctifer.
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Post by: Von Skyfury
Don't tell anyone what you are going to paint !
Unless you won't be painting this specific model =P
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
I will say I am definitely going to be painting an Infinity mini.
Well... good luck to all of you! This is going to be fun. My first real painting competition. Huzzah!
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Post by: Von Skyfury
I have a question about the WIP.
Does it needs to be a shot of the mini before painting or halfway through ?
Good luck all !
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Post by: Pacific
endtransmission wrote:The idea behind the painting competition is to not know who has entered what, to make the voting fairier 
(Crap!!!) OK thanks haha
In that case.. I will be painting... a Wulver girl
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Post by: SilverMK2
Thankfully my stuff arrived today
So, a wide range of models to paint for the contest
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Post by: CDK
Since I can't even get it, it's not going to be a Noctifer.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Well the Druze Shock Team would be freaking awesome... but it's not available in the states yet as far as I can see.
There's still plenty to choose from though. I should be fine.
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Post by: Fafnir
Well, looks like it's time to get started. If anything, it'll give me an excuse to finish my school work.
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Post by: Ignatius-Grulgor
Well they're certainly drawing attention to infinity, don't know if this is related enough but the standard figures, are they one piece casts or are they something a little more easily customisable (in multiple parts for assembly). I was kind of interested in getting at least a few figures after I saw some of the scenery etc on antenocitis workshop, this might just have been the push I needed!
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Post by: MarcoSkoll
Very few of the Infinity models come in one piece. Of the humanoid models, you'll usually find both arms are separate pieces, slung weapons are also usually thus, and in some cases, heads are separate too.
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Post by: Ignatius-Grulgor
MarcoSkoll wrote:Very few of the Infinity models come in one piece. Of the humanoid models, you'll usually find both arms are separate pieces, slung weapons are also usually thus, and in some cases, heads are separate too.
Thank you for the reply, what's the general view on conversions, or are the groups small enough that it doesn't really warrant doing them unless you're desperate to look completely different to any other army?
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Post by: Casey's Law
Ignatius-Grulgor wrote:MarcoSkoll wrote:Very few of the Infinity models come in one piece. Of the humanoid models, you'll usually find both arms are separate pieces, slung weapons are also usually thus, and in some cases, heads are separate too.
Thank you for the reply, what's the general view on conversions, or are the groups small enough that it doesn't really warrant doing them unless you're desperate to look completely different to any other army?
This thread should answer your question. Link
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Post by: Absolutionis
EDIT: Nevermind, yakface clarified everything.
One model it is.
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Post by: Casey's Law
Don't let on as to what your entry is but:
How are everyones entries coming along?
I've been ill so i haven't done much but i had some paint delivered from the states. Sadly the wrong thing was delivered but the gentleman has very kindly sent a priority mail replacement within hours of receiving my email. He also through in an extra as way of apology and told me to keep the ones i received in error.
All in all it was very good customer service and i'll be buying from them again! Also, i'm feeling a bit more like my old self so hopefully i can get back to my entry and chopping up models for my blogs.
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Post by: Arakasi
Received - 100% check
Modelling - 100% check
WIP Photo - 100% check
Base coat - 100% check
Painting - 5% in progress...
Hoping to knock that painting progress up substantially this weekend...
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Likewise. I'm making some good effort on the painting department, but it is a long process.
I'm happy with the look so far, and I can't wait to see what everyone else puts out.
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Post by: Von Skyfury
Still waiting for my models to come in =(
Still have no idea how it will go to assemble the models haha
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Post by: MarcoSkoll
I'm still in the modelling stages. As I waffled about in the "Conversions" thread, I like to make all my models unique. And I think I've found something nicely different to do, so it's taking a while.
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Post by: endtransmission
Still not finished building mine yet... besides which it's been persisting it down here, so undercoating has been out of the question :/
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Someone is doing a rain dance in order to unfairly hamper competition.
They will be f-
Oh wait, you have one of those British flags next to your name... I didn't think you guys had any other weather.
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Post by: CDK
Can I do more than one? I've got some I'm already working on but if I do something different I'll have get more primer. Of course it's part of the month where I have NO money :(
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Post by: Pacific
Haven't even started mine yet! I have to wait for the T-minus 2 or 3 days to start before I panic and then paint it in a frenzy
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Post by: SilverMK2
Started painting, not finished
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Post by: Casey's Law
Nice to see you that most of you are progressing nicely.  It's even nicer to see i'm not the only one fretting over delays!
Think i'm going to bash out the building and maybe converting tonight. Fingers crossed.
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Post by: The CF
Mine's coming along pretty good, one of my better works I think. But might be too simple.
Also, I have no idea what quality the competitors hold, so I have no idea what to expect from my level of painting... And that's bothering me
Also waiting for basing supplies I ordered from Maelstrom three weeks ago.
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Post by: Casey's Law
I'm sure it's going to look great CF, there are some great painters here and i'm sure the amazing mini's will draw more out of the woodwork. Because of that i've resigned my self to losing with dignity  .
Tbh i'm pretty just psyched it's happening and i get to take part plus it gave me an excuse to get my Nomads started off a little early.
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Post by: endtransmission
CDK wrote:Can I do more than one? I've got some I'm already working on but if I do something different I'll have get more primer. Of course it's part of the month where I have NO money :(
No, we're each limited to one entry and you have to have a photograph of them in an undercoated state with a date after the competition start date Automatically Appended Next Post: Chemical Cutthroat wrote:Someone is doing a rain dance in order to unfairly hamper competition.
They will be f-
Oh wait, you have one of those British flags next to your name... I didn't think you guys had any other weather. 
It's you isn't it? You're the one doing the rain dance!
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Post by: Arakasi
Got mine undercoated just before the rain
It really is feeling like there will be more entries than the previous Duel comp - it will be very interesting to see everyone's efforts!
Good luck everyone!
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Post by: Cave_Dweller
I'm still at work in the middle of nowhere Canada. Should be back in the states next week for a sweet 19 days off and ordered some stuff online that should be waiting for me when I get home. I'll be painting full time! That is, between sessions of skyrim
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Post by: Von Skyfury
yay =D
received my order =)
well...part of it
9 minis out of 26 =(
and only Human sphere (beautiful book by the way)
Will start assembling and painting tomorow =)
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Post by: SilverMK2
Painted the main body, base coated the arms and base so almost there
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Post by: The CF
Casey's Law wrote:I'm sure it's going to look great CF, there are some great painters here and i'm sure the amazing mini's will draw more out of the woodwork. Because of that i've resigned my self to losing with dignity  .
That sounds like a plan. I think I'll prepare to lose too
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
Ordered some alternatives from Shae, as I was unsure on the two choices I had. Once they arrive I will getting straight into painting one or two of them.
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Post by: SilverMK2
Well, my model is almost finished - pretty much finished the base and just need to finish painting the arms (and also re-glue the arms as they fell off when I stuck the model to the base  ).
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Post by: Inanimate
I placed my order on the 17th and it's still in "packing" even though they're supposed to be dispatched within 2 days. :( Hopefully it'll arrive sometime during the upcoming week.
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Post by: SilverMK2
Woo, just finished painting mine (at least, a possible entry  ).
Now just to find a way of photographing it to make it look half way good...
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Post by: Tauzor
Got the model today.......I will open the box and start
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Post by: Arakasi
I can't remember the last time I painted human skin... turned out okay I think. Thankfully, there isn't a lot of it
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Post by: heartserenade
I'm sure as hell would like to have a nice rain in here. It's unbearably hot in the Philippines. It's like marinating yourself in a tub full of boiling gasoline.... and the gasoline is ON FIRE.
Anyway, decided to enter this contest! Our playgroup has been wanting to play Infinity for some time now, and this competition is a great start in painting what we have as of now (which means to say, not much). This is gonna be exciting! Good luck to everyone!
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Sorry Heart, you're not allowed to partake.
Your painting is just too awesome and terrifying. And uhh... um... Corvis Belli doesn't recognize the Phillipines as a legitimate... umm... anything?
Or something.
I jest, good luck and I can't wait to see what you come up with, I'm sure it's going to be awesome and a worthy challenge to everyone.
Make sure your model doesn't melt!
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Post by: heartserenade
Thanks for the compliment, but I'm still not that good. And I'm stuck with models that, while awesome, are not exactly my cup of tea (my friend ordered them a year ago and never touched them because he has no one to play with) so that will hamper me quite a bit. And I have absolutely no idea what to do with the base! IT STRESSES ME SO MUCH.
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Post by: SilverMK2
Submitted - woo!
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Post by: endtransmission
I actually started painting mine yesterday! I'm at the stage that I need to put a coat of varnish on before I can carry on... I keep rubbing off bits of paint *argh!*
What's the betting it rains when I get home so I can't carry on tonight?
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
*does rain dance*
Pretty good actually.
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Post by: heartserenade
Maybe you can try some brush-on varnishes. I use those exclusively since it's always humid in here. But try it on something first: it might discolor or fog the details, depending on the brand.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Yeah, listening to you complain about the heat the first thing I thought was, "How the hell does he prime when he lives in a jungle?"
I'm good, I don't think I'm that good. With priming I mean.
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Post by: SilverMK2
endtransmission wrote:What's the betting it rains when I get home so I can't carry on tonight?
You should come to sunny Stoke
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Post by: heartserenade
Chemical Cutthroat wrote:Yeah, listening to you complain about the heat the first thing I thought was, "How the hell does he prime when he lives in a jungle?"
I'm good, I don't think I'm that good. With priming I mean.
Weather comes in two variants here: too damn hot, and too damn wet. Trick is to time when to prime when the sun is up, because after a hot day chances are there's gonna be rain.
Although there hasn't been rain here for days since it's "summer" in here ("summer" in the Philippines translates to "it's more likely that you'll die because of heatstroke than raining"). Or it'll rain half-heartedly for 3 minutes, then the sun will go back and treat you like you killed his parents.
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Post by: The CF
Put the last touches to my model today!
That means I hope it won't chip any more paint, it has done a little too much of that... And it also means I'll most likely just paint a little more on it every time I see it coz I just can't seem to get satisfied
But if only my basing stuff could arrive...
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Post by: Fafnir
Ugh, it's the first time I've tried painting in my apartment, and now I know why better than ever before. It's impossible to get any decent amount of light, and when I can, the light is flickering like a strobe light at an epileptic convention.
That said, things are coming along somewhat decently, although it is difficult to do anything properly with such poor lighting.
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Post by: Pacific
endtransmission wrote:I actually started painting mine yesterday! I'm at the stage that I need to put a coat of varnish on before I can carry on... I keep rubbing off bits of paint *argh!*
What's the betting it rains when I get home so I can't carry on tonight?
You know we've got a month's worth of rain coming in 5 days or something right?
Haven't even started mine yet, I just can't decide what model to use!!
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Post by: SilverMK2
I can't wait for the voting as I really want to get feedback on my model and see what people think of it as I am pretty happy with it
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Post by: Arakasi
Model's done, just the base to do now...
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Post by: heartserenade
I'm not doing all too well. The paintjob's not in the level I would like. *sigh*
I may redo everything. Or just paint up another model. Makes me sad.
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Post by: Arakasi
Is it ever?
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Post by: CDK
I'm just using this as an excuse to get some models painted. "Honey, I have to go paint now for the contest. Call me for dinner."
I wanted to paint last night but we ended up all watching the last Hulk movie. Going to Avengers midnight show next week!
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Post by: endtransmission
SilverMK2 wrote:You should come to sunny Stoke 
No thanks. My wife's family are in Stafford (and I went to uni there). That's as close as I like to get these days
I got some varnish last night between bouts of torrential rain... so I might be able to get some more done tonight in between trying to finish off my Chaos Warrior for the GW painting competition on saturday and building a steampunk'd version of a sonic screwdriver for my wife's holiday outfit...
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Post by: SilverMK2
endtransmission wrote:SilverMK2 wrote:You should come to sunny Stoke 
No thanks. My wife's family are in Stafford (and I went to uni there). That's as close as I like to get these days 
It is ok - it has been chucking it down with rain for the last few days anyway
I went to school in Stafford - it is pretty dull
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Post by: Cave_Dweller
Just got my stuff from the war store and doing the cleanup and pinning today, maybe have it primed by tonight I hope. This will be an exciting contest and I can't wait to see what you guys are painting!
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
I love the War Store.
I anxiously await this competition coming to a head. It shall be exciting! Oh the drama!
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Post by: SilverMK2
I have to say that I really want to see people's entries... and to see how my own stacks up against them (if at all)
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Post by: heartserenade
Me, I'm both excited and scared to see other people's entries. Excited because I love to see some nice entries, and scared because I might not be able to measure up to their standard. Really not confident with my entry so far.
I think I'll do two or three entries and just pick which is best.
Anyway guys, can you point me to the direction where I can read more about Infinity's fluff? I want to incorporate the fluff more in my entry, and also to design my future Infinity army on said fluff.
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Post by: Fafnir
So, picked up today from where I left last night, and now that I actually have some light thanks to the sun, I'm not impressed with what I had last night. Spent a fair amount of time just touching up now that I can actually see what I'm painting. Still, I'd say I'm around a third/halfway done. Just a lot of work to go.
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Post by: SilverMK2
Well, there is not a huge amount of fluff online - most of the models have a bit of fluff on the infinity store - http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en/facciones/
Other than that, there is a pretty good timeline of events here - http://infinitythegame.wikispot.org/Chronology along with some other small bits of fluff.
However, most of the fluff, as far as I am aware, is in the rule books.
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Post by: Fafnir
And from what I've managed to read so far, it's some pretty damn good fluff. The translation's a little shaky, but you can tell that the writers care about what they're creating. It's not just another knockoff universe, although you can certainly tell where it gets its inspiration from.
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Post by: Inanimate
I have some questions, and they might sound a little stupid, but I really want to do this right.
How did you include the date in your WIP-shot? Exif data or something else? Does the WIP also have to be 1000X800 (800X1000)? Is one photo of the unpainted model really enough along with the collage of the finished model? Do you get an acknowledgement from the admins when they have received the pictures and deemed them fit for entry?
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Post by: Arakasi
Best to ask these in the official thread
Apparently they want the WIP picture taken in front of something showing the date after the contest - ie in front of the official thread above, a newspaper etc. This is new (to me) since the last comp...
I don't think the WIP picture size matters (other than to be clearly the final painted model! - and perhaps the date above too)
One WIP pic, one final pic (which may be a collage/montage if you wish, and must be 1000x800 or 800x1000)
I received an acknowledgement of my entry last time.
Hope that helps, but as I said, best to ask on the official thread above.
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Post by: Inanimate
Thanks.
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Post by: heartserenade
Mine didn't show the date too much but it showed the Dakka Painting Challenge thread on the background.
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Post by: Inanimate
heartserenade wrote:Mine didn't show the date too much but it showed the Dakka Painting Challenge thread on the background.
I suppose that's enough to prove that the picture actually was taken after the the contest was anounced.
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Post by: Pacific
Depending on what kind of camera you have, it may include the date of shot automatically. I was wondering (and worrying) about this too, then someone pointed out to me that pretty much all of the photos in the gallery already have that information next to them.
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Post by: MarcoSkoll
EXIF data does not prove a date, as it is easily edited and changed. Simply setting the wrong date on the camera or the right software would "prove" the date.
It's like writing a date on something would prove when it was created. And if you believe that, I have some genuine 16th century printings of Harry Potter that you might like to buy.
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Post by: Cave_Dweller
Fafnir wrote:So, picked up today from where I left last night, and now that I actually have some light thanks to the sun, I'm not impressed with what I had last night. Spent a fair amount of time just touching up now that I can actually see what I'm painting. Still, I'd say I'm around a third/halfway done. Just a lot of work to go.
I hear that, natural light is always best. Ages ago, I used to paint with a crummy incandescent desk lamp with a 60 watt bulb in a dark basement. Talk about eye strain! You should check out your local hardware store and see what kind of cheap fluorescent light you can get...it's a worthwhile investment and your eyes will thank you in the long run.
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Post by: jedi76
My entry is mostly finished as of this afternoon! My first infinity model painted, and they are so cool!
Been reading on the Internet how to make a light box. Gotta find a good cardboard box behind the grocery store tomorrow to make it out of.
Unfortunatly somethings wrong with my camera. Put new batteries in tonight and it still won't even turn on  I hope I don't have to use my wifes I phone camera.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Yeah, I just got a light box as a birthday present from those who love me, so I'm super excited. It came with little studio lights and everything!
Naturally I had to mess with the thing right away!
The difference is huge. Having a nice smooth background makes you focus completely on the model, and the lack of clutter is nice. It came with these two little studio lights with 50 watt whatsit bulbs... like the little studio lights you'd have in a display case. They work alright, but I'm thinking I need to be both A) Brighter, and B) Whiter. They're rather obviously yellowish, and it's frustrating. But it was good practice messing with the box.
I snapped a photo of the Mag, and out of everything, it was definitely the most photogenic... even just primered black it looks totally BA.
See?
Hope everyone’s painting is going well.
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Post by: CDK
I got to paint for all of 30min last night :( the kids kept yelling and stuff! "Daddy can I paint a guy?" No. "Please?" No etc.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
PLEASE!?
*puppyface*
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Post by: SilverMK2
Hmmmm... Might ask for a light box for the ol' birthday
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
It's worth it man... once I get the lighting sorted out this thing is going to be awesome. And for that all I really need is some cheap stand lights and some daylight bulbs and BAM done.
Dunno how much it cost, but it can't be more than 40 or 50 bucks for the box itself. The thing is pretty tough quality, and it folds up all portable-like, so I can carry it around, which is swell for doing shoots elsewhere... I'll probably bring it with me over my friend's place and take some shots of his Ariadna for you guys to check out. They're pretty hot.
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Post by: Arakasi
Painting done! Now just need a sunny day for photography...
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Post by: Tauzor
lolz I only just basecoated today !
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Post by: Von Skyfury
Highfive !
Mine too is only basecoated as of now =P
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Post by: Tauzor
[ DCM] Awesome sause for the win !
ya we leave it to the last moment and we still kick ass
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Post by: Von Skyfury
Unfortunately, what might get kicked is my ass
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Post by: Ian Sturrock
I managed to get mine assembled at last.  Ended up on a bit of an Infinity terrain-building kick, today, so I've not even basecoated the mini yet!
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Post by: heartserenade
I guess one thing that bothers me is that I didn't convert mine because I have no experience in converting metal (don't have the right tools nor the GS skills) and it just doesn't feel like the work is truly mine. Do you guys get that when you don't convert a miniature?
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Post by: SilverMK2
Yeah, I looked at doing a simple arm swap, but some of the models have shoulders as part of the torso, while others have them on the arms.
I really didn't feel like cutting up my first models as I am not confident that I could GS in the fine details that Infinity models have.
It is strange having essentially uni-pose models after so long making GP multi-pose models, and so much time converting and kit bashing them. One of the reasons that I am putting on more interesting bases is to try and make them more unique.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
I try to make them unique through their paint schemes.
I'm the kinda guy that will be damned if he paints something 'by the box'... so I get my kicks painting up my own schemes and going crazy in those regards.
Scultping figs into different poses is completely beyond me. I have zero sculpting talent. The advent of LGS as a gap filler was a godsend to me. Especially with these models.
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Post by: Inanimate
Tauzor wrote:lolz I only just basecoated today !
Mine hasn't even arrived yet!
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Post by: The CF
I did the base today. As in making in, not painting it. First time I've ever tried using plasticard.... I just hope it is clear enough to show what I was going for, it's kind of... a mess really.
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Post by: CDK
Well I'm not happy with the one I'm working on so I might do another.
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Post by: Arakasi
No mods to the mini for mine (is that giving it away? doesn't sound like it) - just have to differentiate with paint and base
After completing the model last night, there was glorious sunshine today - but of course, I dropped the mini and it needed some touch ups tonight.... doh!
Done *again*. Managed to knock it over, but not drop it, hopefully should be good for photography tomorrow (weather permitting...)
Really looking forward to see the range of entries this time around - it sounds really popular!
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Post by: Cave_Dweller
In the process of base coating mine. I chose a very difficult mini to go with but it just looked so utterly badass I couldn't resist! These really are some of the very best minis out there right now.
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Post by: Casey's Law
Yay, i'm not as far behind as i thought!
My converting is just starting to come together. If things go well i might be able to undercoat and basecoat tomorrow.
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Post by: Sasa0mg
I hope there won't be too much given towards conversions :< I'm not the best of modellers >w< I'm still waiting for my stuff to arrive, kind of at an awkward place given how nothing has arrived for me yet!
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Post by: Tauzor
Stock model - no shiny - only the lick of paint
Got the base colours down today as well as the first washs !
Keep going folks !
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Post by: The CF
-gulp- Well, mini done, base done, picture collage... done. Now I just need to gather some courage until I send the picture... I have to feel that everything is right.
How are your guys' work coming along?
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Post by: BlueDagger
Have't even started yet lmao
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Pretty good! I've hit that point where I don't know what else to do, so I should probably just stop now and take pictures before I do something dumb and ruin it.
So I guess you could say I'm about done. I'm fairly happy with the way it all turned out. We'll see if the voters agree with me.
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Post by: The CF
Chemical Cutthroat wrote:Pretty good! I've hit that point where I don't know what else to do, so I should probably just stop now and take pictures before I do something dumb and ruin it.
So I guess you could say I'm about done. I'm fairly happy with the way it all turned out. We'll see if the voters agree with me.
That sounds great. I'm feeling my mini is too bland... But I don't think I can do much to fix that.
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Post by: heartserenade
Still doing something on the base. I think I'm still 2-3 days away from being done with it completely. But then again, I'm a slow painter.
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Post by: Captain Jack
All done, barring the base. My WiP pic is a late in the process one as I didn't read the rules paaack ooops! Some bits I'm really happy with, some not so. My main concern is getting good pics of it
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Post by: Ian Sturrock
I undercoated my mini tonight.
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Post by: Tauzor
First few layers and washes are on. New GW paints are "intresting"
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Post by: SilverMK2
In a good way?
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Post by: Casey's Law
Oh god, I really need to start basecoating!
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Post by: Sasa0mg
~.~ my stuffs still not here
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Post by: Arakasi
Entry sent! Get a move on guys! Good luck!
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Post by: Casey's Law
Sasa0mg wrote:~.~ my stuffs still not here
Should have gone to Specsavers... Eh, i mean Shae Konnit.
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Post by: Inanimate
So, got home today and found a little parcel in my letter box. WIP shot taken, basecoat done... I just need some inspiration now.
There was a little bit more cleaning up of the model than I had initially expected, but at least I didn't have to sculpt any detail back.
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Post by: Sasa0mg
Casey's Law wrote:Sasa0mg wrote:~.~ my stuffs still not here
Should have gone to Specsavers... Eh, i mean Shae Konnit.
Have done that now I think :S I just hope it arrives in time now xD
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
I'm pretty much done. Just gotta snap pictures now.
This means I can get back to painting stuff I can show you guys!
I have my first batch-painted unit. Since I had somehow amassed a whole four (!) Muyibs without getting them all painted. So I sat down last night and attacked them with a vengeance. So I'll have to take some snaps of those when I get home. I was going to do it last night, but my phone was so low on battery that it wouldn't let me take pictures.
Bloody technology.
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Post by: CDK
My problem will mainly taking good pictures. Well, I know my painting skills are not as good as some here  but I think it's coming along okay. Unfortunately real life is getting in the way lol.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
That's how it goes.
I would go look up some tutorials on making a light box, or if you can afford one, just going out to a photo-store and buying on.
That right there can make a big difference in everthing.
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Post by: endtransmission
You want some really powerful lighting to go with a lightbox... I found the ones that came with mine were nowhere near powerful enough and just cast lots of shadows, rather than getting rid of them.
I keep being distracted from my Infinity model by other things. I should really clear off my painting table so that it's the only mode on there... the Cyber-mastif I painted last night isn't going to be of any use to this competition :/
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
MIne are coming along nicely. My only issue is with five to pick from, I fear after the comp when I can show the rest that I had to pick from. I'll hear folks note.. should have picked number two for the comp MDS, not number four.
Regardless, it'll mean my first five Infinity figs are finished, hopefully I can press on and get my Nomads finished afterwards.
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Post by: Tunnel Rat
I'm still prepping my mini for a WiP shot. I hope I make in time.
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Post by: Cave_Dweller
Made some good progress on mine and I'm pretty happy with it. I also tried some of the new GW paints.. They actually made a competent white, for a change!
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Post by: heartserenade
We should really have a tutorial of how to have to befriend/date/coerce/bribe a professional product photographer and convince him/her to take photos of your work.
I thought I was 95% done but my OCness kicked in... and I redid the base. GUH.
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Post by: Captain Jack
Almost ready for the final photo shoot  I'm really happy, its pushed me to take more time and actually enjoy some brush time.
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Post by: Tauzor
Still painting
* Finding gw paints drying faster that previous - however wet blending appears easier ? go figure
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Post by: Pacific
Still haven't started mine! The fear hasn't reached the appropriate level yet ..
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
I love that concept as a motivator Pacific.
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Post by: bfdhud
The first mini I painted for this turned out pretty poor. Going to start another one tonight. I guess the first one was actually the first mini I ever painted. UT was pretty good UN that regard and I learned a few things for the next one.
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Post by: heartserenade
Ohgodohgodohgod I'm panicking. I think I just made a horrible mistake and I need to redo my entry all over again >___<.
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Post by: MrMerlin
Pacific wrote:Still haven't started mine! The fear hasn't reached the appropriate level yet .. 
Same here! I'll probably remember to paint it a day or two before deadline, rush it, and end up with something below my usual painting standards.... it will be quite annoying, but I have some commission work to do and don't really find the time to paint anything else.....
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Post by: Pacific
I just opened up the blister pack! May look at the mini tomorrow
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Post by: Tauzor
Keep it up folks
Some more work done this morning - kinda ok .
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Post by: -Loki-
I'm sad. I'm very proud of how my Ghulam doctor is shaping up, but I never even considered entering it.
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Post by: Von Skyfury
I'm not done yet but I'm not quite pleased with how the colors turned out...
darker than expected =(
And the edge highlights are way too thick.
Too bad the brush I ordered won't be here in time.
Next contest I guess =P
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Post by: Arakasi
@-Loki-: You mean you didn't take WIP pictures in front of Dakka for *all* of your models just in case?  (I had six potentials to choose from - not that I have finished the other 5 yet...)
@Von Skyfury: Enter it anyway - you learn more about the whole process by participating - makes the next contest easier
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Post by: Von Skyfury
I never expected to win anyway
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Post by: Tauzor
Oh me either  but its all good fun . !
Common folks, how are you all doing >
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Solid. Snapped all my pics over the weekend, so I'm going to sort through em' till I find the one I like.
At least now I'm free up to get back to 'normal' painting and whatnot. Really really looking forward to what everyone else posts.
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Post by: heartserenade
It's official: I'm stressed. My sister's wedding is on Saturday and I need to make her cake toppers, plus organize her bride party thingie, plus talk to the emcee, plus redo my contest entry.
That, or just stick with what I have so that I won't shorten my lifespan for about twelve years or so.
Seriously, stress. Hope I had budgeted my time better. Still looking forward to everyone's entries.
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Post by: Pacific
Arakasi wrote:@-Loki-: You mean you didn't take WIP pictures in front of Dakka for *all* of your models just in case?  (I had six potentials to choose from - not that I have finished the other 5 yet...)
Wait.. we had to take a photo in front of Dakka?
Why when the submitted photos have a time and date stamp?
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Post by: Arakasi
Had to go find the relevant quote to make sure I wasn't making things up again...
inquisitorlewis wrote:Please remember to snap a dated WIP shot of your model. Best way is to just place the mini in front of your computer screen with this thread open.
I suspect because submitted photo time and date stamps can be modified? I'd take it up with inquisitorlewis if it's going to be a problem.
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Post by: MarcoSkoll
Pacific wrote:Why when the submitted photos have a time and date stamp?
As I said a few pages back, the EXIF data is not an adequate proof you didn't start your entry before the contest. It's far too easily changed with software or even just changing your camera's clock.
A photo in front of the contest thread (or on top of the day's newspaper, etc - just something that couldn't have existed before the appropriate date) is harder to fake.
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Post by: Von Skyfury
Humm...Looks like I missed that part...
So if I only took a picture with an internet calendar in the back, I can't enter the contest ? =(
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Don't panic guys. Dakka's a bunch of chaps like you, not the DMV.
If you think you might have botched something, contact one of the chaps running the competition and ask them. Explain your concern, and see what's up.
Pretty sure if there's an issue everyone can get it straightened out, no problem.
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Post by: Von Skyfury
Anyway, the plan is not to win, just to get comments on how to improve =P
So worst case scenario : I'll make my own topic showing my mini =)
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Post by: Alpharius
Chemical Cutthroat wrote:Don't panic guys. Dakka's a bunch of chaps like you, not the DMV.
If you think you might have botched something, contact one of the chaps running the competition and ask them. Explain your concern, and see what's up.
Pretty sure if there's an issue everyone can get it straightened out, no problem.
And the award for Levelheadedness goes to.... Chemical Cutthroat!
All kidding aside, yeah, what he said!
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Post by: MarcoSkoll
...well said, but for future reference, something that only has the date on it is a BAD proof of date. It really needs something that you couldn't have had prior knowledge of - the exact wording of somebody's forum post, what the day's headline was, etc.
As I've said before, how I tend to date things is take a photo in front of stock prices. Something like the table on this page. All those prices are completely verifiable and I couldn't possibly have known them before the previous close, so just about all non-photomanipulated fakery is ruled out at that point.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Right, well lesson learned I guess?
I just did the old fashioned newspaper thing. It's classic.
For anyone who has questions, shoot them here, and they should get back to you in a timely manner.
dakkapaintingchallenge@dakkadakka.com
Cheers!
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Post by: heartserenade
You could easily fake those with time travel.
Any tutorials out there how to make a working TARDIS?
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Post by: MarcoSkoll
If I had time travel, I wouldn't be using it to try and improve my chances of winning a €100 competition, I'd be writing down lottery numbers.
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Post by: Cave_Dweller
It kinda sucks to have to put something like a newspaper or screen showing dakka behind your mini...it's a distraction. Would be much better to have a neutral background.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Um, really Cave?
You're taking a picture of your Starting Point. Like the model still in the blister pack, or the model primed with no paint on it.
You're just snapping the pic for a date, not for photogenic purposes.
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Post by: heartserenade
We're snapping pictures for dates? Haven't had a date in two months...
...and I really should be working on my sister's wedding and entry, rather than spamming the forums.
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Post by: DancingRonin
This is awesome it will be my first painting contest
Even though i wont be likely winning, making the extra effort led to my best painted infantry size model to date.
Really look forward to seeing all the entries, good luck all.
all that is left is getting a good photo
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Post by: Captain Jack
Eh, well I had better read the rules pack completely next time and not skim as I missed the paper/dakka part of the WiP photo. I did however use my iPhone to take the undercoast/ WiP photos so I should be ok. I've no real chance of winning, but it was worth doing just to push my painting up another notch, and I will be very happy when I can field that particular mini on the table. It's just a bit of fun at the end of the day, so enter your minis regardless of how you feel and I'm sure you will learn something new in the process.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
I have to say I'm a little shocked by how many people didn't read the rules thoroughly.
I'd hate for an awesome model to get DQ'd for something like that.
Truth be told the wait is absolutely killing me. I can't wait to see what else people have worked on. And a little bit of wanting to show off what I can do and to get feedback on that as well.
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Post by: Sasa0mg
Not looking like I'm even going to have my stuff before the contest is over ~w~ a shame, but im still looking forward to painting my minis for infinity...I really hope my stuff comes as motivation for my better work is real important and nothing pushes motivation like a competition >.<
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Post by: SilverMK2
Chemical Cutthroat wrote:Truth be told the wait is absolutely killing me. I can't wait to see what else people have worked on. And a little bit of wanting to show off what I can do and to get feedback on that as well.
Me too - I've come close to posting pictures of my finished model several times
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Post by: CDK
Well I don't expect to win anyway so I'm going to just do the best pics I can date or no date.
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Post by: Pacific
MarcoSkoll wrote:Pacific wrote:Why when the submitted photos have a time and date stamp?
As I said a few pages back, the EXIF data is not an adequate proof you didn't start your entry before the contest. It's far too easily changed with software or even just changing your camera's clock.
A photo in front of the contest thread (or on top of the day's newspaper, etc - just something that couldn't have existed before the appropriate date) is harder to fake.
Ah well.. I'm out then in that case!
Couple of layers of paint into my guy, and not time to start another. I'll submit my stuff with the WIP shot as is, if they think anyone would go so far as to hacking software to try and get an unfair advantage for something like this then I don't care if I'm excluded as I want no part of it.
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Post by: Fafnir
I have a photo on a dated sheet of paper with the model primed and with a single colour, and a photo of it against my computer's clock in the same condition. I'm hoping that's enough to not get me disqualified, since I did put a fair bit of work into my entry.
Just need to base it now.
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Post by: MarcoSkoll
Pacific wrote:if they think anyone would go so far as to hacking software to try and get an unfair advantage for something like this then I don't care if I'm excluded as I want no part of it.
It's nothing to do with having to hack software. It's that software can change the photo data in the same way as I could change the contents of a text document with Notepad.
But even putting wilful deception aside, EXIF data is wholly reliant on the camera date/time being set correctly in the first place so I'm a little bit surprised that anyone would treat it as if it were a confirmed proof of date.
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Post by: Arakasi
Guys, what's done is done. I can only hope that you submit you entries and that they are accepted. The more the merrier!
I don't know the *actual* reason this requirement came into being (it wasn't part of the previous competition) - but I'm pretty sure it isn't to antagonise Dakkanauts, disqualify their hard work or test your reading comprehension!
If I had to make a guess, it is because rumours of this competition were floating around prior to it, and they want to make doubly sure no one made an unfair head start. (As well as the usual requirements of being your mini, and not being painted previously)
The best I can offer is, if you feel your WIP may not be up to scratch, just make sure to explain the situation when submitting it. I'm sure inquistorlewis is able to make or help you make a reasonable verification that your entry meets the spirit of the competition. It's just a lot easier if it happens to meet the competition requirements!
Lesson learnt from the last competition - presentation!
Lesson learnt from this competition - paying attention to entry requirements!
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Post by: Pacific
Arakasi wrote:
Lesson learnt from this competition - paying attention to entry requirements!
That's the thing - there isn't a single mention of this on the official entry page and post by Yakface.
Ah well I was going to paint the mini in any case, so no harm done.
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Post by: Arakasi
You are correct!
New lesson learnt - pay attention to the competition thread?
Hmmm... I think it may be difficult to enforce a dated WIP requirement if it wasn't in the initial competition entry post. I suspect it might be an oversight that the original post wasn't updated either. I would classify that as a reasonable reason for not meeting the requirement. (Note - my opinion here counts for nothing  ) Again, the organisers are only human and I'm sure they will make a reasonable judgement call given the circumstances...
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Post by: Von Skyfury
Everything is fine forever.
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Post by: CDK
I was totally confused by the rules. Because it said model(s) I thought it meant I could do more than one. Also, I misunderstood you send the WIP shot at the same time as the finished shot. I sent two WIP shots of two different figs weeks ago and got back a message trying to explain it to me. Still took a couple messages for it to sink in.
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
Well they'd be no concern in doing more than one, you just can only enter the one. I've done five, which has expanded my workload greatly, but they needed to be done at the same time due to a shared colour scheme.
I just took a pic of them all with Dakka behind it, and will circle the entry before I post it with the final entry pic.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Things will work out, but only if the participants are proactive.
Freaking out doesn't solve anything, but sending calm and rationaly e-mails certainly has a much higher success rate. I'd make sure to talk to someone beforehand and give them the situation, rather than just sending stuff in on the 12th and seeing what happens.
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Post by: Casey's Law
Going to start painting tonight! Looking forward to getting some feedback on my paint scheme.
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Post by: Inanimate
I have decided that I'll most likely stay away from the serious contests after this one's over. It takes away most of the fun and relaxation of painting and turns it into a chore, and not just as a mundane task that needs to be done, but one that will be judged, criticized and awarded (or not). And the waiting after everything has been submitted...  I will honestly have trouble sleeping. It's not an amazing sum of money we're talking about here or any super-prestigeous prize but I tend to over-react and take things way too seriously.
I hope at least some of you are having fun.  Good luck!
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Post by: Von Skyfury
Humm... a couple persons are starting now... That means I can start a new one !
Not quite satisfied with the current one...will choose the best one if I finish it in time =)
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Post by: yakface
Guys,
Please do not freak out if your WIP picture isn't perfect. Inquisitor Lewis simply said the best way to take a WIP pic is in front of something with a date on it, not that this is the only way a WIP pic would be accepted.
Again, the whole point of requiring a WIP pic is to make it a tiny bit harder for someone to just steal a pic of a fully painted model off the internet and submit it as their own work. Yes, WIPs can be faked and yes you can easily find WIP shots of finished models on the net as well, but frankly there's no real way to make an online competition this way 100% secure. We're just trying to add the thinnest layer of protection against fraud (and counting on people hopefully spotting stolen pics if they do ever get submitted).
So yeah, don't fret. Take a WIP pic and if you forgot to take a WIP pic then take a pic of your model in front of something current and that will be good enough. If you're concerned about the WIP then write an email explaining the situation to the contest email address and all will be fine.
Relax and enjoy!
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Post by: Von Skyfury
As always
Much love, Yakface
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Post by: heartserenade
Inanimate wrote:I have decided that I'll most likely stay away from the serious contests after this one's over. It takes away most of the fun and relaxation of painting and turns it into a chore, and not just as a mundane task that needs to be done, but one that will be judged, criticized and awarded (or not). And the waiting after everything has been submitted...  I will honestly have trouble sleeping. It's not an amazing sum of money we're talking about here or any super-prestigeous prize but I tend to over-react and take things way too seriously.
I hope at least some of you are having fun.  Good luck!
Actually, I have more fun when there's competition. It's true that I get stressed with the wait and how will I fare and all, but it makes me feel, well, alive, for lack of a better word.. It makes me want to do my best, and funnily it does push me to do my best. The way I see it, you can take things seriously in order for you to do your best but do not feel resentment on others if you lose, and be a good sport.
Competitions are fun even if taken seriously, as long as you don't lose sight of the importance of making new bonds with others because you are too focused on winning.
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Post by: zoddozoddo
Never posted before
i really like this competition because it moves you to finish some unpainted miniatures you have stored for ages.
Also it is nice to see painted infinity miniatures in different way
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Post by: CDK
Glad to have you! Hope you show some images or enter the contest.
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
Almost done, happy with the look in all, just some final highlight work and then final basing. I also think I know which of the five I am entering, but I want to get all five done anyways. So my guess is I'll be sending the pics tomorrow night.
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Post by: zoddozoddo
CDK wrote:Glad to have you! Hope you show some images or enter the contest.
thank you
i have sent the 2 photos (although the WIP has not the "dakkadakka" forum on the background) but if the judges want i can shoot a photo with the miniature and the forum page and send it.
No problem for it :\
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Two days remaining! Get your stuff together! Take your shots! Send in those photos!
Procrastinators! Now is the time to get started!
Yes that means you Pacific!
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Post by: Inanimate
heartserenade wrote:
Actually, I have more fun when there's competition. It's true that I get stressed with the wait and how will I fare and all, but it makes me feel, well, alive, for lack of a better word.. It makes me want to do my best, and funnily it does push me to do my best. The way I see it, you can take things seriously in order for you to do your best but do not feel resentment on others if you lose, and be a good sport.
Competitions are fun even if taken seriously, as long as you don't lose sight of the importance of making new bonds with others because you are too focused on winning.
I meant that I take defeat a bit more seriously than what is reasonable, but on a very personal level. I won't feel resentment for the winners or anything like that. If it was something like the proposed Painting League, then I'd probably enjoy it more. I participated in a "friendly" competition over at Reddit, and it was pretty fun (though some people were noticeably butt hurt). Now when there's €200 to be won, it feels like the competition, and therefore the judging, is going to be a lot more serious. Instead of just judging what looks cool, they're going to focus on things like the NMM not looking photorealistic and stuff. I could be wrong, but that's what is playing through my mind. I'm not good enough to go through such scrutiny, and that's what's eating me up.
I haven't lost track of what's important, and I'm not doing this just for the prize. It's a way for me to participate in the community. I don't know enough about the rules and fluff to really have anything to say, so I hope that my models could do the talking for me. To be honest, winning the prize would be sweet (still unlikely), because who wouldn't like a free army or TAG? With that said, the prize money is well within the range of my disposable income, so it's not like I'll suffer if I don't win. It's not an expensive game to get in to either, especially since I already have the paints and tools to begin with.
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Post by: Pacific
Chemical Cutthroat wrote:Two days remaining! Get your stuff together! Take your shots! Send in those photos!
Procrastinators! Now is the time to get started!
Yes that means you Pacific!
Haha.. I've been imagining the paint on the model! Somewhat coincidentally, the Infinity event that IJW is running tomorrow will interfere with me finishing it! Looks like it will be a stay up late job...
Is there any kind of wooden spoon prize for this competition by the way?
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Wooden Spoon prize?
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Post by: Arakasi
I'm not aware of any prizes for coming last, no...
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Post by: Casey's Law
Arakasi wrote:I'm not aware of any prizes for coming last, no...
Aw baws. I better actually get some paint down then...
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Post by: endtransmission
Finally finished my model and submitted it. I'm pleased, but there are bits that I think could have been done better... as always
Good luck to you all! I'm really looking forward to examining all of them and trying to work out who painted what
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
I'm done, just need to take a shot of the fig and send it in tomorrow. Pretty much as happy as I can be with it, and probably one of my better jobs, basically if it gets a vote I'll be happy. The main thing is I have my first five Infinity figs painted, so feeling a little inspired I better get back to my Nomads asap and do some work on them.
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Post by: Casey's Law
I'm frakked. I wasn't planning to do all of the finishing touches right now anyway but i don't think i'll be doing any of them now. The main colours will have to suffice!
Can't wait to see the entries though, theres gona be some cool stuff on show.
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Post by: CDK
Mine is done but need to take the pics. Hope I can tomorrow.
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Post by: Pacific
Wow some really beautiful entries in the competition! My own entry shows the complete lack of effort and painting/photography skills on my part, I think the only chance of victory I have is some Florida-style vote rigging!
Impressed by the number of nutters who entered a TAG, and some of the slightly 'cheeky' entries (yes, that is a double-entendre  )
Great to see how many people entered though as well, I'm sure there must have been a few Infinity converts out of this !
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Post by: heartserenade
Pacific wrote:Wow some really beautiful entries in the competition! My own entry shows the complete lack of effort and painting/photography skills on my part, I think the only chance of victory I have is some Florida-style vote rigging!
Impressed by the number of nutters who entered a TAG, and some of the slightly 'cheeky' entries (yes, that is a double-entendre  )
Great to see how many people entered though as well, I'm sure there must have been a few Infinity converts out of this !
They already posted the photos? o_O Where?
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