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Post by: Kellz1234
Hey Dakka!
I just came across this bits company online a few days ago and thought I'd share it! I'm thinking of building some cool Chaos obliterator conversions with the track kit and true scale termie torsos. The plasticard work is amazing!!!! I definitely don't have the patience and steady enough hand to do this!!! Go check it out!
http://threestagestudios.blogspot.com
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Post by: Vain
Link to his actual Webstore thingo.
http://threestagestudios.bigcartel.com/
And images of things actually on sale.
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Post by: Clang
Those are presumably masters, not the castings (resin or metal?) which will be for sale. They do look nice thought, would be great for a variety of artillery and robots and small vehicles...
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Post by: Vain
Yeah, but those are the only pictures he has in his online ship.
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Post by: Kellz1234
There aren't many pics on the webstore but there are some more pics of the Terminator armor on the blog at this website.
http://threestagestudios.blogspot.com/2012/03/true-scale-space-crusader-heavy-armor.html
Looks like they are in high demand and I just put in an order for some along with the tracked recon kit. Looks like he is also working on some knight titans and other crusader heavy robot unit but has no pics up. I'm very curious to see what tose turn out to be!!!
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Post by: inquisitorlewis
True scale termies!!!  Digging it.
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Post by: Alpharius
Definitely interested - and wanting to see more!
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Post by: Ketara
I'll be keeping a close eye on this.....
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Post by: Charax
I ordered a set of his truescale termies last week, so I'll let people know what they're like when they arrive.
At the moment he's working on a limited-run Knight Titan (20 in total) - sorely tempted to get one, but I'll see how it comes out and at what price point
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Post by: d-usa
Looking forward to seeing the pictures of the TS Termie.
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Post by: Alpharius
All I need is a scale shot and, pending the results, I'm in!
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Post by: frozenwastes
It'd definitely be a good idea to have pictures with either a ruler or a known size miniature like a space marine for comparison.
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Post by: Mad4Minis
Alpharius wrote:All I need is a scale shot and, pending the results, I'm in!
Thats the key isnt it...actually seeing the final product before getting too excited.
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Post by: Alpharius
I know that's all I'm waiting for.
The price is such that there's no way I can order these sight unseen!
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Post by: Oakenshield
It irks me when places start selling products before customers can even see the finished product. Those masters looks really cool but I'll reserve judgment until I actually see the castings.
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Post by: darknightwing
The prototypes look real good. Looking forward to seeing the actual product.
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Post by: Kellz1234
YOU BEAT ME TO IT LURKER!!! I emailed TSS about a scale pic and got that same one emailed to me! Thanks for posting it!
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Post by: Lurker
Nah, I just happened to check the thread out just as he had posted on Warseer.
Mere chance.
What do you think?
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Post by: Chowderhead
Lurker wrote:Nah, I just happened to check the thread out just as he had posted on Warseer.
Mere chance.
What do you think?
I really want to see them painted. The plain Resin makes them look very undetailed and lopsided.
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Post by: Ketara
I must admit, I'm less than thrilled at their appearance. Especially considering the slightly obscene price tag.
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Post by: Grundz
Ketara wrote:I must admit, I'm less than thrilled at their appearance. Especially considering the slightly obscene price tag.
yeah, they are cheaper than GW terminators, so, obscene
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Post by: Ketara
These true scale terminator legs and torsos:- £31 (contains 5x Torso, 5x Legs, 5x Helmeted Head, 10x Shoulder Pads)
GW terminators:-£28 (Complete kits for 5 terminators including weapons)
Chapterhouse True scale Marine kit:- £14 (contains 6 torsos, 6 legs, 6 backpacks, 12 shoulder pads)
In other words, Chapterhouse pumps out more resin product at less than half the price.
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Post by: Kellz1234
Ketara wrote:These true scale terminator legs and torsos:- £31 (contains 5x Torso, 5x Legs, 5x Helmeted Head, 10x Shoulder Pads)
GW terminators:-£28 (Complete kits for 5 terminators including weapons)
Chapterhouse True scale Marine kit:- £14 (contains 6 torsos, 6 legs, 6 backpacks, 12 shoulder pads)
In other words, Chapterhouse pumps out more resin product at less than half the price.
But the Chapterhouse marine kits are for standard marines and not terminations... I have paid $38 for a Squad of 10 Space Marines but $50 for a squad of 5 termies.... You could make the same arguement that GW is ripping us all off but its for diff units... IDK... it didnt seem that obscene to me... And this hobby on a budget is a tough one.... so for me, i guess it fits my wallet just fine 
*PLUS have you used Chapter House Products? A few things i have gotten have just seems way too cheap and brittle... I wasn't too impressed with the resin from them but thats just me... The owner mentioned in the email that the casts are almost 1 Oz of resin each model. So seems like it will be a better product that Chapterhouse.. Ill know when I get them i guess!!
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Post by: Ketara
I don't buy that these kits are substantially different enough from Chapterhouse to carry the increased price tag. I also own a number of the Chapterhouse true scale kits, and found them perfectly fine.
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Post by: Alpharius
However, CHS doesn't make 'True Scale Heavy Armored Future Extra-Solar Warriors'.
Though I wish they would!
I suspect that IF they ever do, it will have to wait until after a certain event has reached its conclusion....
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Post by: Lurker
Chowderhead wrote:Lurker wrote:Nah, I just happened to check the thread out just as he had posted on Warseer.
Mere chance.
What do you think?
I really want to see them painted. The plain Resin makes them look very undetailed and lopsided.
Agreed. I'd like to see them with a wash over the top to bring out the details.
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Post by: johnstewartjohn
Only $50, think i'll buy ten sets,
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Post by: d-usa
If other recent events are any indication, then anybody interested better get them while they can.
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I think I'm going to spring for 8 of the torso & legs. With magnets that should give me a 5 man squad of terminators, and then I can use the 3 remaining ones for a Chaplain, a Librarian, and something else.
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Post by: RiTides
Hrmm... that's not the best photo, but it doesn't impress me very much...
This is clearly a highly sought after item, though- hopefully more 3rd party companies will take a crack at it. And, of course, I'd love to see better photos of these...
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Post by: Alpharius
Along with a scale shot next to some 'regular' Heavy Armor Spacemen...
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Post by: Cheex
All I'm seeing are potential base miniatures for some home-made Obliterators. They actually look very similar in size to the metal Oblits that I cut up to actually stand up straight, and it shouldn't be too hard to source some arms and heads for them.
Might have to place an order next payday.
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Post by: Kellz1234
That's exactly what I see them for Cheexsta! I'm not really into the truescale stuff... I was just looking for something much larger to start with and I'm a lazy bum and don't have the time to scratchbuild my own base models! I'm planning on turning them into a couple of oblits and possible some special characters for my Nurgle army!
Im excited to start seeing what people are doing with these kits as it looks like they are going to be used for more than just the truescale stuff.
@RiTides - You really dont think they look good?? They seem on par with what i've seen from other 3rd party companies... I was never too impressed with Chapter House stuff myself so hopefully these are much better than them. You must just hold a much higher standard than I when it comes to custom made, conversion parts.... 
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Post by: Kellz1234
A painted Pic has surfaced...he updated the blog if anyone is interested in seeing it painted..
http://threestagestudios.blogspot.com/2012/04/first-pictures-in-of-painted-true-scale.html?m=1
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Post by: d-usa
I do think painting it helped:
It is not looking quite so soft anymore.
Would still like to see a picture next to a regular Terminator. If no pictures have surfaced by the time they get here, I will post a picture of the ones I ordered.
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Post by: Alpharius
d-usa wrote:I do think painting it helped:
It is not looking quite so soft anymore.
Would still like to see a picture next to a regular Terminator. If no pictures have surfaced by the time they get here, I will post a picture of the ones I ordered.
That's what I'm waiting for too!
Hopefully that picture can beat the C&D...
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Post by: d-usa
That is a big downside to the over-eagerness by GW legal. After the unfortunate results with the recent true scale crusaders it just seems like you can't really play it safe anymore and wait to get a good evaluation on parts like this.
That's why I ended up ordering a 5 kit and a 3 kit, cause for all I know it will be gone by next week.
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Post by: Liquid Squid
d-usa wrote:I do think painting it helped:
It is not looking quite so soft anymore.
Would still like to see a picture next to a regular Terminator. If no pictures have surfaced by the time they get here, I will post a picture of the ones I ordered.
The arms from stock termies look a bit small for my taste, but that's pretty cool. I might have to pick up one or two (read: a whole lot) of those.
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Post by: Kellz1234
Another pic came up. This is what Dakka is demanding i think!
sorry for the small pic... Had to upload it from my phone... stupid proxy at work.......
The Blog has the full size pic too. The link is above. Get them while they are still in production!!! Sounds like they are going fast!
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Post by: Ketara
They appear to be down to the last ten to fifteen sets and are not planning on making more.
On that basis, I just invested and nabbed some.
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Post by: candy.man
I nabbed 5 of the torsos and legs for the same reason.
I'm going to use the large ornate shoulder pads from Anvil Industries with my project. It's a pitty that not many of the Third Party companies make termy arms or heads (as buying termy parts from bits sites are expensive)
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Post by: Kellz1234
candy.man wrote:I nabbed 5 of the torsos and legs for the same reason.
I'm going to use the large ornate shoulder pads from Anvil Industries with my project. It's a pitty that not many of the Third Party companies make termy arms or heads (as buying termy parts from bits sites are expensive)
I like those shoulder pads from Anvil! Thats gonna look great! Im pretty pumped to start seeing these pop up in the dakka galleries. Should be some really cool conversions that start showing up. I do agree about the arms and heads too! Im making some Obliterators with mine so green stuff is going to be my new best friend for this project.....
Its too bad that GW has step on the little guy in these situations and force them to stop producing this kind of stuff...Don't get me wrong, I love GW and FW products but I wish little companies like Three Stage Studios could still keep producing stuff like this to please the true scale modelers and converters out there.
Sounds like they are almost sold out too so you better act quick if you people want some!!! 
Mine come on Wednesday!!! 
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Post by: d-usa
I don think I got any kind of tracking on my order yet.
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Post by: Kellz1234
d-usa wrote:I don think I got any kind of tracking on my order yet.
I got mine through pay pal. If you havent gotten it yet, you are prob still in que.. I know there was a big demand for them and there was a little delay from what they told me.. When did you put your order in? I put in my order when they were a pre-order but I dont think they officially went on sale until the 13th or something like that. I would just keep checking pay pay for that # or possibly email TSS for a number if available
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Post by: d-usa
I ordered them on the 14th. If I have not heard anything when I get home from Adepticon on Monday I will send an email.
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Post by: Mad4Minis
Well, those would go wonderfully with the Chapterhouse tru-scale "knights" I just got...
EDIT: Guess the molds are about worn out. Sadly I wont have the $$ in time to get some. I will say I think it would be pretty stupid if they didnt make another set of molds to continue production, as they are obviously selling well.
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Post by: Kellz1234
The think the blog mentioned somewhere that they were scaled to be the proper size compared to true scale power armor.
And I don't think it's as much the molds as it is the c&d letters being sent out...no one really knows how long they will be sold for...keep an eye out for them I guess....
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Post by: Lurker
So.
Worth it or not?
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Post by: Kellz1234
Lurker wrote:So.
Worth it or not?
I say yes! No flaws or air bubbles that I noticed. Plus they pre-wash them so no need to do that part. I didn't have much time this morning to mess with these other than clean up the flash but from what I received, i am impressed. They have a good weight/feel to them and ill hopefully be able to get to work on them this weekend! I look forward to bulking these suckers up for the obliterators I am making out of them!!
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Post by: d-usa
Anybody else get their orders yet? Still waiting on mine...
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Edit: Got a hold of them and it looks like my order should ship today.
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Post by: warboss
Interesting... thanks for the update. I actually just put together two more TS guys for my defunct Deathwatch game and was just wondering earlier this evening how I would ever do a terminator. I just kitbash termie and regular kits together for mine so the added bulk on this kit actually helps differentiate the fig from my TS power armor guys. I do think though that I'd have to do something with the arms as they do look a bit T-Rex-ish as is. Either way, thanks for the comparison pics!
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Post by: Finrott34
Great review d-usa! I was planning on writing up one myself since ive been a long time lurker and got my order for 2 sets in yesterday!
I have to say they were way better then I expected in both proper size, craftsmanship and quality! Im debating ordering 2 more sets before they are OOP for good. Oh the wonderful choices....
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Post by: BrookM
Thanks for the comparison pics, this is something I will most certainly look into in the direct future! 
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Post by: Alpharius
BrookM wrote:Thanks for the comparison pics, this is something I will most certainly look into in the direct future!
Better move quick as these kits seems to be more ripe for a "letter" than other kits that were recently pulled...
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Post by: balsak_da_mighty
Yeah I am not a fan at all. Not worth the money in my opinion.
They don't even look good for pre heresy terminators. IMHO
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Post by: Kellz1234
Nice review d-usa! Pretty good comparrison shots. I've been lazy and have had no time to get any pics up of my WIP obliterators but rest assured! They are looking pretty schweet!
A little update too.. Looks like the guy at TSS that is selling them just recently had a loss in the family and is a little behind. I only received part of my order and got an email back saying they will be a little behind on sending stuff out. So not sure if anyone else has had a delay but its understandable...
Anyone else have any pics of these? I need a little inspiration on some poses for them!
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Post by: adamsouza
You guys found a way to make an expensive hobby even more expensive.
I curse you all, because I now want true scale marines !! 
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Post by: Ouze
I think the concept is neat, but I find the execution quite poor. Specifically, the leg piston things are very blobby and have soft detail, they don't even connect all the way on the sides, and the poses are very static and lifeless, and even the proportions seem off by quite a bit.
I like the scale of them; as I'd like to get Obliterators at some point and find the GWS ones to be terrible, but these aren't the counts-as Obliterators I am looking for (waves hand).
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Post by: kenshin620
Rise from the dead!
Ummmm this is interesting. They decided to go really big all of the sudden.
TS7-B Crusader Heavy Assault Robot
$80.00
On sale right now are a very limited number of what can easily count as Knights or other large scale robots in many wargames. The model stands a bit over 7 inchs tall and will need at least a 200mm base (not included).
The set comes with:
2 Heads (only one style pictured)
2 Styles of Shoulder Pads (only one style pictured)
2 Weapon Arms
1 Ion Cannon
1 Chain Blade Arm
1 Torso
1 Waist
2 Upper Legs
2 Knee Pads
2 Lower Legs
2 Feet
Items are in stock at only 4 sets and will not require casting on order. First come, first serve.
 
Unfortunately, doesnt the first "Head" style look familiar?
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Post by: Brother Axel
They serious with that titan reject?
That... Is the ugliest kit I have ever seen in my life.
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Post by: Chi3f
Haha that is very Bionicle right thar. An interesting idea but poorly executed. 
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Post by: Dropzone
Sadly, I ordered a set of the Terminator (Hvy Crusader Armor) back on April 15th. As of writing this, they still have yet to show up.
Time to dispute with Paypal I think.
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Post by: Grundz
Chi3f wrote:
Haha that is very Bionicle right thar.
An interesting idea but poorly executed.
You can play scavenger hunt with this thing, see if you can spot the defiler weapon arm hub, lego wheel, leman russ back hatch, ect. ect.!
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Post by: d-usa
Dropzone wrote:Sadly, I ordered a set of the Terminator (Hvy Crusader Armor) back on April 15th. As of writing this, they still have yet to show up.
Time to dispute with Paypal I think.
Have you emailed the guy?
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Post by: Alpharius
Also, keep an eye on the calendar - I think PayPal has a 45 day max time on disputes.
Either way, good luck!
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Post by: Malika2
Grundz wrote:Chi3f wrote:
Haha that is very Bionicle right thar.
An interesting idea but poorly executed.
You can play scavenger hunt with this thing, see if you can spot the defiler weapon arm hub, lego wheel, leman russ back hatch, ect. ect.!
Hmm, and the GW IP layers' wrath shall rain down upon them...
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Post by: Charax
Dropzone wrote:Sadly, I ordered a set of the Terminator (Hvy Crusader Armor) back on April 15th. As of writing this, they still have yet to show up.
Time to dispute with Paypal I think.
Huh, me too.
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Post by: SickSix
The groin tabbard is a GW banner. Wow, they are just blatantly using a mix of GW parts to make their own.
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Post by: RandyMcStab
I'm waiting on a set of Track Units, I emailed the guy and he was really helpful and after a month (apparently Customs sometime delay that long) he said he would resend, still waiting....
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Post by: Charax
If you're waiting on an outstanding order, send him an email (even if you've sent one before) - I've been talking to him quite often and he seems like a decent guy, but he's quite prone to getting swamped, especially with some of the personal stuff he's had to deal with) just check in and see what he says. He's not on Dakka but I've directed him here.
As for the composition of the Knight, it doesn't look good for him, but I'm not really a fan of the design anyway. Still, $80 isn't a massive amount for a knight titan, even if you just use it as a base
EDIT: Ah, it's not his design, it's a design someone else made for him to sell through his store - so if it's a shameless ripoff, it's someone else's shameless ripoff!
Not sure if that's a good idea, but at least it explains the style/tone disparity between the big kit and the small ones
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Post by: timd
Charax wrote:
As for the composition of the Knight, it doesn't look good for him, but I'm not really a fan of the design anyway. Still, $80 isn't a massive amount for a knight titan, even if you just use it as a base
My thoughts as well. Seven inches is a bit tall for a knight so chopping out about an inch of that torso height (and shortening the arms) could bring the proportions closer to the original Epic knight.
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Post by: Aerethan
Not to be mean(well ok, to be mean) that is a terrible titan model. My 4 year old comes up with better stuff with his legos.
There is nothing about it that is good. The head is clearly a lego head, the waist is a joke, the legs are scaled up power armor, and the arms are flimsy.
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Post by: Commander Cain
I would seriously tell no one to buy this item! I have seen this particular model, this exact picture online for a couple of years at least. If this is some kind of scam, which I really hope it is not, it is a pretty bad one! I mean, recast bionicle bits and GW stuff does not equate to a good model.
Honestly guys, don't even consider buying this thing, not that any of you would of course!
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Post by: d-usa
I have had good luck buying from this guy. Sorry to hear people are having issues. Hope it works out.
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Post by: Lucarikx
kenshin620 wrote:
T-tahu? Is that you?
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Post by: yeofooz
Hi
I'm one of the unfortunates who's still waiting for his order.
Considering the large amount of money I paid, the long wait and lack of communication, I am quite frustrated.
If anyone happens tog et in contact with him, could you kindly pass on the message that he needs to deal with his UK customers?
Thanks
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Post by: RandyMcStab
We've chatted a lot by email and he was very friendly but I'm still waiting for my 3 x Track units...first ordered on May 1st (approx) or the replacement order sent later..
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Post by: candy.man
I am still waiting for my order (ordered in May) as well and have contacted him via email previously. I sent him a follow up email today requesting replacement or refund.
Based on my interactions with 3 Stage so far, I would strongly recommend people not to buy products from this person.
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Post by: RandyMcStab
Let us know what happens, I really wanted those tracks...
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Post by: Absolutionis
As someone on TTGN pointed out, the vent on the back is also lifted straight off the top rear of the Leman Russ Tank.
This 'company' is starting to become shadier and shadier.
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Post by: Commander Cain
Brings back good bionicle memories at any rate! Many edits for coding screw-ups...
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Post by: NoBaconz4You
Wait a minute, so this guy is actually selling cast of those horrible-looking titans? Can he legally do this? The bionicle head and countless other GW parts are pretty damn obvious.
Someone help me out here...
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Post by: insaniak
NoBaconz4You wrote:Wait a minute, so this guy is actually selling cast of those horrible-looking titans? Can he legally do this? The bionicle head and countless other GW parts are pretty damn obvious.
Recasting components (as opposed to complete sculpts), particularly when they are being used in a different form to the original, is a bit of a legal grey area.
A lot of cinema models are made from kit-bashing other model kits and then casting the end result.
Having said that, waving a red flag like that in front of Games Workshop and Lego does seem a little brash.
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Post by: adamsouza
Maybe I'm just being a bit slow, but what is this suppossed to be ?
$15.00The TS4-A Tracked Cyborg Recon Unit fits on a 40mm base or larger and is suited for a 28mm scale setting.
This complete kit contains everything needed to build a full TS4-A.
Parts brake down on a complete kit:
2x Tracks
1x Lower Track Body
1x Optional Front Armor Plate
1x True Scale Heavy Armor Torso
1x Helmeted Head
2x Shoulder Pads
1x Power Ram
1x Power Claw
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Post by: Aerethan
Almost every vehicle in the original Star Wars movies were essentially kitbashes of existing model kits, which were slapped together and then recast in copper(plastic would melt under the heat of movie lighting during close ups).
Tamiya and Revell should sue George Lucas.
Granted, it would be a grim task to try and identify where each piece of the Millenium Falcon came from.
Still, if I was Lego, I'd be suing this guy for making such a terrible model with my parts. Perhaps if it was cool then Lego wouldn't mind so much.
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Post by: Max Jet
Charax wrote: he's quite prone to getting swamped, especially with some of the personal stuff he's had to deal with
That's always the first excuse I hear when someone tries to pull a scam on me.
Just saying.
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Post by: Platuan4th
Aerethan wrote:Not to be mean(well ok, to be mean) that is a terrible titan model.
Good thing it isn't a titan model, then, isn't?
Being that Knights are NOT titans. 
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Post by: Absolutionis
Aerethan wrote:Almost every vehicle in the original Star Wars movies were essentially kitbashes of existing model kits, which were slapped together and then recast in copper(plastic would melt under the heat of movie lighting during close ups).
Tamiya and Revell should sue George Lucas.
Granted, it would be a grim task to try and identify where each piece of the Millenium Falcon came from.
That is, indeed, the legal grey area.
Regardless, this isn't a matter of taking items from one medium and selling it as another medium.
This is taking parts of a model and selling it as another model; it's the same medium.
It's like ripping parts of popular songs, shoving it on repeat, and applying bad rappin... oh, nevermind...
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Post by: insaniak
We have received notice that this blog is being run by someone who has previously been suspended from Dakka over issues with trades and commission sales. Until the mod team can look into it, discussion of this blog therefore cannot be permitted here since that person would be unable to respond to any issues that arise, as they have been permanently suspended from the site.
We would encourage anyone who has not received what they ordered to keep in mind that the cutoff for Paypal claims is 45 days.
Any further threads discussing this blog will need to be locked for the same reason posted above.
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