Today At my FLGS I had to witness and be affected by Poor Sportsmanship shenanigans. If you want to skip the list and go straight to the shenanigans, jump to The Shenanigans[u] below

4 player, 2 teams, 1500pts per player. Necrons Vs Orks.

Necrons had all together, Orikan the diviner, Imotekh, Trazyn as the HQs.

Also, 8 lychguard with warscythes, attached lord with res orb, semi, phase shifter and warscythe, with trazyn (Following the rules of one unique per team, so, dont misread this as we have 2 trazyns)

2 groups of immortals with tesla carbines, 1 with attached orikan

2 groups of 10 scarabs.

My teammate had something like 20 warriors with an attached veil and maybe imotekh,

10 scarabs

another 20 warrior squad blob i believe, with lords and crypteks

All sorts of stuff. Honestly, i didnt really look at what he had.

First player orks had a kan wall (3 killa kans and a big kan thing deff dread?)
something like 60 boys, a big mek with KFF.

second player orks had a looted wagon, kan wall, 30-80 boys, an ork fighta bomba (dont ask me) and a battlewagon, burna boys

Now mind you, i didnt really look at their list when I was there because i fully expected 2,3,4 hours of play. If they were over or under points no big deal.
Some back history
I am a very relaxed player, i still consider myself new and learning the game. In all the time ive been playing, Necrons, orks, IG, ive only won one game. With that said, if you wipe me, turn 1, im totally cool with it. Im used to losing. No big deal, and i take it as a lesson to improve.

Ork player 1
When i first went to the FLGS I almost quit playing warhammer 40k because of this guy. He is also a big factor in why i stopped playing orks.
This guy rages. Throws his models, claws his eyes, yells curses at people, removes whole units from the tabletop if he makes bad rolls with them, or someone shoots them.
The second match i played with him, he said to me "I hope you get into a horrible motorcycle accident and die." I was pissed, but i let it slide, after telling him Dont say that again.
Later, he said it again, and i started to see red and i was ready to smash his models into pieces and leave until his friend (ork player 2) jumped in and said Oh! Hes joking! hes joking! and forced ork player 1 to apologize.

Ork player 2
Seems pretty laid back, very rules knowledgeable, very excited about the Necron codex and all of its xenos trickery. As a matter of fact, i got the orikan idea from him.

The Shenanigans[u]


Turn one. Night fighting in effect because of Imotekh. All terrain is Difficult due to Orikans temporal snares ability.
Ork player 2 moves his battlewagon. Rolls for DT. Get a 1. Immobolised.
Ork player 1 says Hey, im done lets get out of here. Ork Player 2 says No, lets see where this goes.
Ork player 2 goes to move his skimmer ork vehicle. Rolls a 1, immobolised. Ork player 1 says Im ready to get out of here.
Ork player 2 goes to move his looted wagon, rolls a 6, its fine to move on dt. Necron teammate reminds him he needs to roll a die for the looteds movement.
Ork player 2 rolls a 1. Then he says Ok im done. I quit. Ork player 1 and 2 start packing up their models with no way to reconcile them
Im like wtf, grab my stuff, say bye to another player and leave, pissed off at the poor sportsmanship.

They still had something like what, 100,150+ boys on the table, 6 kans, 2 deff dreads, big meks. Their vehicle weapons can still fire. What the freal man? Really going to quit?
Oh and Ork player 1 ALSO said, Well atleast we can take solace in that we wasted their time and gas.

Yep, wasted my gas, and 3 hours of my life waiting for you to set up and quit.


FOUR DICE and they QUIT. Jeez.
Alternatives:
Ork Player 1 and 2 stay, "playing it as it lies"
Scarabs move in, toss a couple of dreads, get flamed out of existence. lychguard kill the looted wagon (forced to go 13 inches (red paint job) because of the rolled one)
Lychguard start hacking at the orks.

90 orks get into assault with 20 warriors.

90 orks get into assault with 10 immortals
kans into assault. dreads into assault.

All sorts of things COULD have happened.

Heck, if they wanted to restart the game and asked me to remove orikan, I WOULD HAVE. I just did it to see what itd be like, and ork player 2 seemed intewrested in the result as well.

Anyone have similar stories to share?
Is this really, bad sportsmanship, or am i crazy?

Thanks!

Play game with guy, guy argues over placement of blast template over model that whole unit of long fang (missile spam) cannot see. I ask him to check. Butthurt ensues.

The guy was complaining about the extra attacks from my nurgle demon weapon on a standard CSM lord as well.

Furthermore, he didn't know how to move models as per assault rules.

(Playing a small team (750point each) 5v5 game for easter, cadbury cream eggs as delicious objectives. i start on one sidewith my GK with a nid player and a BA. Opposite is an older TFG who apparently has a bit of a temper issue (starts swearing when the table gets knocked or blames people his when his guys slip off unbalanced terrain). He comes in with some DA tacticals and a landraider. on his own. the IG next to him made it clear he was after objectives, whereas TFG thought he could survive termies and nidhorde alone. we agree the nids go for troopers, and il go for his tank (hammer with a librairian and warprift in the squad). i approach through cover, he keeps his troopers in the open and doesnt move his LR, just shoots. i proceed to rip it open as his first trooper squad gets swarmed. he then complains its ment to be a team game and hes got no support/were all cheating cus its a landraider (they are invincible in his mind aparantly)/shouting abuse and threats. he still had azreal and a tactical squad and a half. Baring in mind, he turned up and started unloading everyhthing from his case, and i meen everything. the SA hosting it had to show him how points work...he started shouting hed been playing since 2nd/3rd edition...

TFG enters the GW I frequent, brimming with his 'unbeatable' Blood Angels and was on a mission to 'capture' the local GW's 'banner' (Or some token from the Manager) that he bested our particular store.

He even bragged about all the little signed gift cards from X Managers that were tapped over his case.

So out of about five of us, I volunteer and step up with my unorthodox IG list, and set up.

About three turns in his army is in shambles. My Vanquishers had churned his Ravens into fodder, and he begins to complain that my Tanks are supposed to be useless and that Las Cannons were better, and by the time his Furiouso Dread gets decked and blown apart, he starts getting worse. He claims that I was using the Vanquisher Cannon wrong and that something so poor instats should never be as good as mine was.

Turn four comes and he's practically folded over. All that remains is a Assault Marine unit with a priest about to be run over by my Executioner. But before I can fire a shot, he packs up, berating me and leaves, but not before one of the other guys nabs a 'trophy' off his case.

I recommend making this a sticky, because I thought about making a thread like this about something that happened to me one time; I think something like this would be a good way of discouraging bad sportsmanship.

Here's what happened to me one time.

I start playing against this kid who has a very liberal sense of what 12" is. I think he was like 13 or something, but I suspect he might have been 17-18 and just looked like it.

He starts moving a Landraider full of Terminators toward my tanks, and moves it way more than 12" but does it around a corner to make it less obvious. It was clearly more than 12". I called him out on it, and he started arguing and picked it up and moved it back and said "look see! it's only 12"!" except he wasn't even close to where it originally started. He also, and in every subsequent movement, measured really fast and quickly picked up the vehicle and put it down. I believe he was measuring middle to back to make it look legitimate.

The second thing he did was pile out his Terminators when I destroyed the Landraider. They were in range, but he ran with them and pitched a fit when I told him that they couldn't assault after running, and insisted that I let him take it back because he didn't know the rule.

The third thing he did, and this gets to me way more than anyone else, was he walked out of the store in the middle of the game to buy gummy worms, than talked to me while stuffing his mouth full of them for the rest of the game.

The moment that he left the store was also the moment that I started moving toward a drop pod that he had just came in with space marines that had bolters that were totally actually flamers. I seriously should have told him that he was going to use that as bolters, and that it was final. He didn't have the sportsmanship to announce it at the beginning of the game and then walked out of the store at the moment that it mattered.


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There was also another guy who "fired" an entire squad of marines because they weren't doing enough to stop me from owning him, and than started screaming "Jesus Christ" every time I killed one of his guys or he was unsuccessful at something.

Playing a necron player w wolves pre new codex in small local tourney, moves scarabs to the flank.of my longfangs, forgets about them for a turn, following turn I POP a monolith w those fangs, he then wants to tell me he forgot to move the scarabs and then assault into fangs, and that it would negate the.monolith popping,

I disagree, he gets butthurt, rule check by game rules guy, comes down in my favor... Flips out, flails arms, knocks over monolith.onto concrete... Inapropriate swearing and insults ensue.

Wow.........alot of these stories are hilarious. Concerning the OP, that is just plain aweful. My Advice to you would be to never play against them again.

My Best story was when a player and I were playing in a large 60 person tournament, we were in the lower bracket (which still had 100$ prize support), and were on Table #1 on the last game, so whoever won the game got the prize. He was playing DoA foot marines. He grouped up 2 squads together, and I ended up getting like 19 marines under a large blast template that was str6 ap3. He raged, went over to the TO to tell him how I was cheating and slow playing. He then quit the game, and let me win the tournament.

Some people rofl

When we had the staff challenge board, I would get picked on because of my horrible dice syndrome.

Local 'nid player (before their 5th ed 'dex came out), spent two weeks being quite rude and very ruthless in his comments towards me and what was going to happen to my marines. Got so bad my manager almost banned him, but I told him I had a 'master plan'.

My list I took was roughly;
- Captain w/relic blade.
- Daemonhunter Inq Lord w/scourging + 1x heavy bolter serivtor, 1x bolter+power armour acolyte, 1x familiar.
- Culexus Assassin. (aka 'Little' Devious)
- 2x 10 man tactical squad w/heavy bolter + flamer
- 5x hammernators
- Dreadnought w/asscan + missile launcher
- 6 man Devastators w/3 missile launchers
- 10 man Devastators w/4 lascannons.

He had 3 kitted-out Warriors, 2 maxed-out 'fexes, 2 small (as in only 8 bug!) guant broods w/without number, 12 'stealers + broodlord.

So, as the game started, he tried to infiltrate his 'stealers exactly 18" from my front lines. So I pulled out the rulebook and showed him that he needed to be more than 18" away from me - as in, 'no more turn 1 assaults!' He got all pissy, ranting that I should have told him before we started deploying and how it was unfair because there was no cover where he'd placed them. His mood didn't get any better when I then proceeded to wipe them out with most of shooting!

His then spent the rest of game grumbling about how broken things in my army were;
a) My hammernators were beyond stupid because they wouldn't fail a save. They proceeded to butcher his Warriors, then mop-up the gaunt broods repeatedly thanks to them continually coming back through their 'without number' upgrade!

b) My assassin was pure apparently. I'd infiltrated him 13" behind a piece of terrain, and then proceeded to dog his 'fexes across the board. Devious actually took a wound off a 'fex, which then shot at the devastators, which ment it couldn't charge my assassin! More groans about how I should have informed him of this rule...
Next turn, the 'fex failed both it's Ld7 etherium tests, causing absolute outrage!
Finally, the assassin bit the dust next turn, but he took a second wound from the 'fex in the process! All told, that one one 'fex had 'gained' about 5" of ground and lost 2 wounds over 3 turns!

c) My refused flank deployment had left over half the 'nids well out of range and forced to footslog it for at least 3 turns before they could do anything. I was then accused of being a filthy power-gamer for building my front line with the dreadnought anchoring the flank, hammernators up the center, and captain to tarpit gaunts to keep my big guns & tacticals blasting away.
My Devs had all day to casually pop the two tricked-out 'fexes in a hail of missiles & lovely ap2 lascannons!



By the end of the game, I'd lost 3 space marines... He's lost his entire army, plus the gaunt squads about 4 times over! My manager was in utter hystarics over this how I'd just fed this guy a giant serving of ripe humble pie!
This guy then went into a rant about how I should have played a nicer game and not gone hardcore WAAC's against him because he'd only been playing for less than a year... I quietly reminded him that HE was the one who'd spent 2 weeks belittling me and my game-play.

Like the Hogwarts motto says, never poke a sleeping dragon in the eye! (they tend to wake-up *really* p -off when you do!)

Mine was in an Apoc game. My eldar vs orks. Right after the sunstorm data sheet had been released. I showed him the sheet before the game began, he skimmed it said ok and we began.I got first turn, moved and then I started shooting. I combined all 6 beams and placed the mega blast marker and rolled fro skatter, dead on. Took out 27 of a 30 man unit. After smoke cleared he called me a cheater and scooped his models into a box and left.I couldn't believe he did that. The next day I went back to my local store and he was playing against another player. He saw me and gave me a dirty look and the proceeded to quit that game too. I laughed that a 40ish old person could act like a child. I asked the other play, SW, why he left and he told me that the guy kept trying to cheat and then saw me and got all flabbergasted. Oh well good ridence.

I was playing a flying Draigo-star to prove to some folks that Draigo-star was actually capable of winning games*. So on the first turn, I hit a Swarmlord with 4 Mindstrike Missiles, which, as you know, does 4 of his 5 wounds. Then he conceded.

*I beat a Dark Eldar army afterwards. They still don't believe Draigo-star can win.

Am I crazy, or do a lot of these stories involve Nid players?

AzureDeath wrote:Mine was in an Apoc game. My eldar vs orks. Right after the sunstorm data sheet had been released. I showed him the sheet before the game began, he skimmed it said ok and we began.I got first turn, moved and then I started shooting. I combined all 6 beams and placed the mega blast marker and rolled fro skatter, dead on. Took out 27 of a 30 man unit. After smoke cleared he called me a cheater and scooped his models into a box and left.I couldn't believe he did that. The next day I went back to my local store and he was playing against another player. He saw me and gave me a dirty look and the proceeded to quit that game too. I laughed that a 40ish old person could act like a child. I asked the other play, SW, why he left and he told me that the guy kept trying to cheat and then saw me and got all flabbergasted. Oh well good ridence.

An ork player quitted after loosing 27 models in an Apoc game, what is wrong with the world!

Just got ANOTHER story to add. This is a vassal story!

3000 point game, Necrons vs IG. The player playing IG i guess just decided to bring 3k of Imperial armory stuff. Now remember, we are hiding our lists from each other, so he has no clue what im bringing and i have no clue what he is bringing. He mentioned death korps of krieg to me but i had no fething clue what that meant, i thought it was a book.

He brings something like 4 or 5 mortar squads of three mortars per squad, HWTs of lascannons and stubbers, bunch of foot troops. He also builds the map so his teams can hide behind the walls.

I bring Orikan, Imotekh, 2 GAs with 2 crypteks, each ga has a cryptek with solar pulse, and 8 warriors in each, 8 man lychguard squad with Cryptek of eternity, and a lord with all the goodies cept the tess lab, 10 immortals with 2 lords, decked out the same. 10 scarabs, 5 destroyers, ctan shard with writhing wordscape and pyreshards, anhil barge and 20 flayed ones in reserve.

Mission is seize control, deployment is pitched battle. Roll for init i get a 6 and deploy everything but the FO. While he is deploying i ask about the terrain to insure no confusion and of COURSE he says the HILL in the middle of the map is blos and impass. Ok, im cool with that even though its a rather Richardy thing to do. The walls all his guys are convienently behind are 4+ cover shooting through them too, and DT. Ok, i can take that.
When i brought Ori and bought the writhing worldscape remember, i didnt know what his list was like. So when i told him at the beginning, that its nightfighting, and all terrain is dangerous he said No problem im not moving anything anyway.
Did i rant and rave and tear out my hair? No, i just laughed and carried on with my life.

Now remember, before i go any further, turn 1, movement phase player Me (he faield to steal init) Started at 3:50 am. He asked to play the 3000 POINT game at like 3:30 in the morning. How long does a 3k game take, awhile right? And on vassal40k, it takes longer than usual because communication isnt 100% awesome, especially if you arnt skypeing.
So, game starts at 3:50. Move my forces up, shooting phase.
Lord of the Storm. Im excited, he has a TON of units to shoot at. His units are all together and mushed up so start rolling on each, moving the target recticle. I fudge up and target 3 medusas in a squad separately and he catches me. I say oh! Sorry, duh me! Then he says, Let me roll them. Uh no. You are going to feth this up (pardon the language for you kiddos, just quoting!)
Im thinking to myself wow, this guy is kinda Richard'erd up. Ok, I continue rolling, this time being very specific and saying what im "shooting" at. Out of all his units on the board, i finally hit a medusa squad, roll d6 for 5 hits.

Ok, he says Their going to ground (I still dont know what this means...) I roll, cause 3 wounds, he rolls 3 random dice, and kills two.
I ask him (in my very polite way of telling someone they are wrong without saying YOU ARE WRONG) If insta death didnt affect those guys and he says no, they are regular artillery. Ok, i quickly grab out my BRB that i have handy, read the rules for shooting at artillery and realize im supposed to roll to see if i hit either the gun or the crew. I mention this to him and he goes oh yeah i forgot. I roll, 2 on the gun, 1 on the guy. He says no i saved one. I roll for pen, 2 pens (which destroy the gun) And i tell him he can either bring back a guy or drop a pen. Gun destroyed. I start looking for the info on his artillery unit and he beeps me because i wasnt doing anything for 10 seconds.

Everything else between the PS is skip-able pretty much. My destroyers wipe out a lasgun emplacement turn one. His turn.
Starts rolling dice like crazy. I have noooo clue whats going on. I guess he was rolling for nightfighting and shooting. Kills 2 destroyers with lasguns. Starts on firing his mortars. Its Ordnance 1, large blast, barrage. (Here is my inserted question now that i think of it. Barrages always drop down atleast 3 pie plates, or no? Would this weapon profile drop three plates per shot? I thought if it said like d3 barrage or barrage 3 or something is how you do that) something or other

Targets my immortals which are really bunched up, i had been lazy and left them like that. Oh well i thought, come what may.
He puts out the first shot, it scatters into my lychguard, and he quickly does a bunch of pie plates and goes from 4 hits to 6 hits and then quickly removes the blast templates and starts on the immortals with another squad and Im like uhh wait, how do you get 6? We get into an argument where i tell him he needs to communicate more, and LEAVE the blast templates where they are so i can wtf is going on. It was like 15 seconds and he called the number and moved the templates. Ok, I say screw it, ill do the lychguard 6 hits what ever. He continues hits some immortals.

Ok, without asking me he just once again rolls random random dice. If you are unfamiliar with vassal, It has a saves, to hit/to wound, random dice, vehicle pen etc programs. He doesnt ask me what my Toughness is or anything and just rolls Random dice. In real life, sure, your opponent rolls the dice, and you know whats going on, on a computer, not so. Ok, he makes 2 immortals and 2 lychguard take a nap.

Next, he starts shooting with the rest of his medusas and misses every single unit he fires at by the least of 11 inches. That was something like 8-9 complete misses. He then takes the scatter die and rolls it like 15 times in a row and i can tell he is pissed. Says vassal its 1/20 to hit. I try and defuse his anger by agreeing with him, because i truely dont want a bad game.

I roll reanimation protocols and all my guys get up from the nap cept 1 destroyer. Turn 2, i roll to continue nightfighting and succeed. Its 4:19. I start to move one guy forward and he says " basi ill just concede this is taking forever and its 5 in the morning. I really mean no offense but im just used to playing with friends and they play a little quicker"

Im like whaaa and he leaves. Period. End of story.

I feel that if he had wiped me that first turn, or atleast knocked some of my guys down for good, he would have stayed to play it out. But because his rolls sucked he quit. He was a complete Richard the whole time.

Sorry for the long story, but, its fresh! literally 29 minutes for 6000 points to be moved, and shot with and he called me slow, and quit in a hussy. There is also messages from other people directed at him mentioning that sorry they were so slow, and that they saved the game when he comes back So yeah, its not just me hes a douche to

lol Jeez.

I know a Space Wolves player who has a spreadsheet to work out his list - nothing wrong with that except he tweaks it all the time to make power lists. I've never seen him smile or have fun during a game, he plays "fluttery" - by this I mean always restless, and unable to relax or have a laugh. Possibly no imagination. He constantly bends the rules (measuring from middle to back for vehicle movement) and if you call him out on anything he LOSES HIS MIND.

In any case, I don't really want to play against him because those games just aren't fun since he's a richard. There's an upcoming campaign with him involved though. He says he's going to take 5 Wolf Guard Terminators - in a drop pod as dedicated transport. I lolled.

nightside wrote:He says he's going to take 5 Wolf Guard Terminators - in a drop pod as dedicated transport. I lolled.

Why? That's both legal and effective, unless there's been some errata of which I'm unaware.

Smitty0305 wrote:He grouped up 2 squads together, and I ended up getting like 19 marines under a large blast template that was str6 ap3.

How? 19 marines, is that even possible?

DarknessEternal wrote:

nightside wrote:He says he's going to take 5 Wolf Guard Terminators - in a drop pod as dedicated transport. I lolled.

Why? That's both legal and effective, unless there's been some errata of which I'm unaware.

Hang on - I thought that a drop pod could only be taken if it's listed in the unit description as a dedicated transport. And can't a drop pod only fit 5 models and 1 terminator counts as 2?

nightside wrote:Hang on - I thought that a drop pod could only be taken if it's listed in the unit descriptionas a dedicated transport.

Riiight and WG have it listed as a transport. Strike 1!

And can't a drop pod only fit 5 models

Strike 2!

and 1 terminator counts as 2?

Aww. You got one.

I think he was trying to say that it is a poor choice.

**grumbles**

**wanders back into bunker**

My opponents BA list -

Dante
3 Asualt marines in a rhino (they still have jump packs btw)

nuf said.

thestormlord wrote:My opponents BA list -

Dante
3 Asualt marines in a rhino (they still have jump packs btw)

nuf said.

Three Marines? HOW IS THIS LEGAL?!

I roflestomped a kid I didn't like, he quit end of turn one.

And dante assaulted after ds on the first turn without scatter.

Dayvuni wrote:I roflestomped a kid I didn't like, he quit end of turn one.

/slowclap

Cool story, bro.

I know that I was once teamed up with a TFG who said it was all my fault that we failed an unrestricted tournament. 2 of the games we played were objectives.

My army? Combat Squad Ravenwing Biker Squadron with Attack Bike, Land Speeder. Sammael also. So remember, THREE SCORING UNITS (Three Bikes, Three Bikes, Attack Bike)

His army? 9 Vets. 1 Scout Squad. Librarian. 5 Tactical Marines. Rhino. Assault Squad. ONE SCORING UNIT (5 Tactical Marines)

He decided to try and snatch objectives on the other side of the board, getting his only scoring unit killed a plume of fire.

He also called me a crazy bastard for not using Sammael his way.


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thestormlord wrote:And dante assaulted after ds on the first turn without scatter.

Get a rulebook and all current codexes. Get him to stand unaided with his hands stretched out. Drop codexes on his feet. Throw rulebook with maximum force at face of target. Calling the Ambulance is optional.

BlapBlapBlap wrote:
His army? 9 Vets. 1 Scout Squad. Librarian. 5 Tactical Marines. Rhino. Assault Squad. ONE SCORING UNIT (5 Tactical Marines)

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thestormlord wrote:And dante assaulted after ds on the first turn without scatter.

Get a rulebook and all current codexes. Get him to stand unaided with his hands stretched out. Drop codexes on his feet. Throw rulebook with maximum force at face of target. Calling the Ambulance is optional.

Irony much?

he had 2 scoring units (Scouts can score as well)

I can only really think of three moments that could be considered 'Poor Sportsmanship'

First one not really, but was playing someone at our club, he was quite young, can't remember what army he was using (probably C:SM) and I was using TH/SS termies in Land Raiders SM list, with Shrike to give them fleet. Anyway, Shrike was planning to outflank (on his own, not enough points to give him a squad in 1500 points), it was already looking not that great for me at all, on turn three, and in the shooting phase (well just finished movement, hadn't shot anything) I remembered I hadn't rolled for Shrike, so I said can I roll now? And he said no, you forgot, he's dead. We weren't playing a competitive game, at a friendly club (although maybe my list suggested otherwise, although at 1500 points and at that time it stopped being a good list to be honest, this was slightly less than two years ago. I know thats technically the rule, but any time (even once in a tournament game, not a serious competitive tournament, haven't been to one of those) I or someone else has forgotten a reserve roll, me (or them) have just said roll it now (or maybe leave it till next turn, not that unit is dead because you forgot to roll).

The other two, both came at ToS in January last year, on the whole I really enjoyed myself, did fairly well considering I wasn't using my own army (although I had played a very similar list before, was Jetseers, two squads, A 3 man bike squad and 2 5 man DA squads in Falcons), I won my first game, so second game I was up against another winner. He kept going on about how rubbish his DE list was, was built for fun, not competitiveness (despite it being a bog standard Mech DE list with one difference, an Archon's court), occasionally throwing in how wonderful/OP my list was. Basically it wasn't a fun game at all, everything went really wrong for me, followed by really patronising comments from him. (worst thing in that game, seer council assaulted his Court, was a full squad with Farseer and I think 6 Warlocks, maybe 7, basically he saved all the wounds I did because of FNP, then killed one Warlock off, which happened to be Embolden, I failed LD by 1, and he caught me, dead seer council, with 1 dead model, they had killed nothing. Obviously not his fault, but was just pretty much the whole feel of that game for me).

On Day two, I was up against a IG list, a bit of a mixed list, with a 20-30 man blob squad, possibly straken, 2-3 leman russes, marbo, some heavy weapon teams, possibly a squad in a chimera. Funnily enough I ended up on a table next to one of the other people from my club (6 of us there altogether), and someone he knew was on a table behind (a couple to the left I think), we had our armies out on the table, but was a bit of time before we were allowed to start, so I went off to the toilet. After the game my friend told me he'd been boasting he was going to win, easy game for him, stuff like that. When he told me he'd said that, I thought that was pretty off. Especially since he killed half a seer council in first turn (he went first, no fortune) before I completely annihilated him, he killed about 2 more Warlocks at most, Marbo came on and failed to hurt a Falcon, the fuller (he may have done wounds to both seer squad was actually in combat with the blob squad for a while, so the half dead one actually did most of the killing, assaulting turn 2, 3, 4, 5 and 5, losing 1 Warlock in all that time (against various heavy and small arms fire). He spent the whole game after his first turn looking miserable (in fact he looked miserable after he didn't wipe at all the warlocks first turn, I still made quite a lot of saves), barely said anything, grudgingly shook my hand when I offered it to him at the end. I tried to make it more fun, sound like I was getting lucky without being patronising, its not nice to lose badly (especially after a decent start), but it'd be nice to show some kind of enjoyment/social interaction. I might as well have been playing myself, would have got more conversation...


None of them major things (and I could have said them using a lot less words), which I suppose is pretty lucky really, some people have had some terrible times playing 40k, my 'bad' experiences with actual players is pretty much limited to those 3 times (oh actually, one other, but won't go into that, even though its probably (definatly) the worst), and the occasional time when i'm losing badly and just not really in the mood to be losing badly.

Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:
His army? 9 Vets. 1 Scout Squad. Librarian. 5 Tactical Marines. Rhino. Assault Squad. ONE SCORING UNIT (5 Tactical Marines)

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thestormlord wrote:And dante assaulted after ds on the first turn without scatter.

Get a rulebook and all current codexes. Get him to stand unaided with his hands stretched out. Drop codexes on his feet. Throw rulebook with maximum force at face of target. Calling the Ambulance is optional.

Irony much?

he had 2 scoring units (Scouts can score as well)

DA Codex. Scouts are elite.

played and apoc match thats supposed to be 3 vs 3 (Orks vs IG). Only i show up for the IG and all 3 ork players show up. we can move the tables to whatever config we want. i want a long defensive style battle with me on the end and them coming towards me. they force me to have the battle nigh point blank spread length wise across this table (it was 3 tables together to make 1 long table) so their orks are within spitting distance of my units. im fine with that.

but the thing that did it for me was blatant cheating when it came to my Baneblade. The Baneblade has 4 sponsons and retains 13 side armor but they fired some gun ( i can't remmber what, only it was off a stompa and was a giant machine gun) and they declare that the Baenblade has 12 armor on the sides due to the added sponsons. I called them out on it but they refused to give me the apoc book to show proof. Said baneblade was glanced into oblivion along with several pens that leading to its destruction (the glances alone practically crippled the tank).

At turn 3 i called the game (they tried to do the same with another one of my super heavyy, a Shadowsword with a single pair of sponsons).

I never played them again and rarly seem them in the shop and even if i do i don't say anything.
but now i have an entire binder with my codex, and every datasheet of every machine i have including ones i haven't even constructed. just so that can never happen again.

Another was when a Leman Russ of mine destroyed a significant portion of a Grey knights army. my lone tank destroyed at least 2 dreadnaughts and multiple squads of different kindsincluding a paladin squad. And everything he fired at the Leman Russ never affected it, such as the psycannons never rolled a rending. When i finnaly destroyed the last GK with a psycannon (removeing all ranged anti tank weapons minus the few living guy with melee weapons who were a good distance away beign shot by multiple guardsmen squads) he snapped and tried to smash my tank (physically not with troop retaliation!), he tried to hit my tank with a large solid piece of terrain but the plastic terrain it was settled in took the first blow (damaging the terrain by snapping off the top floor of the building) i saved my tank and troops before he could hurt them and he was banned from the store for such action.

my only guess is that i had destroyed his winning streak and that his "God Like Grey KNight of Awesomeness" being destroyed by "Pathetic guardsmen and their crates" (his words) was too much for him.

Looking for a game at my local GW, using my regular all-comers Necron wraithwing list.

"Hey, you want a game?"
"Sure, what army are you playing?"
"Necrons"
*picks up DE codex* "hm...what should I take against Necrons"

Besides the list tailoring, he was actually a really good sport, especially after I had tabled him

Now to put this in context I am 16 and run a Imperial Guard Army called Luna's Legion. This is a heavy armor army that makes heavy use of Tanks and Artillery and my only Titan ( a Warlord ). This is an apoc battle. This Army uses the cutie mark of the Princess from My Little Pony as a banner and marking.

Cutie Mark:



The Army is painted in a void space Camo theme.

I enter the store to play a 2vs2 Apoc with my Friend who plays Ultramarines. I sit down and begin to unload my army after greeting everyone. My opponents are 2 people who I have never met before, they look to be in there 20's or older, one plays Ork "Green Tide" and another plays Tyranids. Now, everyone in the store knows about the cutie mark thing, but I had to tell them as none of them recognized it, and they didn't care and I even got some compliments on my painting. As I take my Baneblades out ( I didn't bring my Titan, to big and to cumbersome sometimes ) they have 2 flags on the back of each both with said cutie mark and a III under it. The Tyranid player immediately shouts "HOLY THATS FROM MY LITTLE PONY", I give him a look and said, "Oh you watch as well?", he then responds with "Lol I don't that shows for fags and horse er's". He does not say anything after this and I decided to go with it and crush his pathetic army with my "Fa-word Army".

After I have everything unloaded and I begin to speak with my friend on strategy the Ork player leans over the table and says, "Are you ing slowed? Were is all of your Guardsmen and Infantry, I explain to him what little Infantry I have is on Chimeras and Valkyries as I do not like playing with mass Infantry and prefer mass armored combat. But hes having none of it and proclaims that his Orks will crush my "Stupid list" into nothing. Battle opens up and he loses his entire first charging wave to my 4 Baneblades and several Leman Russ's. He then goes into a rage accusing me of being a player and how I won't be able to hold off another attack. Second wave is chopped to peices by Artillery fire and my Manticores turn his Warboss into a green smear.

Him AND his friend the Tyranid player then go into a rant on how I am a Horse er for having a Army which only illusion to My Little Pony is it's flag, and my friend for being a "Ultrafaggot". They then pack up and leave, with the Ork player throwing his Warboss in the trash on the way out.

Me and friend re-organize our armies as we have another match later that day and go grab a Starbucks and something to eat from Cheesecake factory!

DarkCorsair wrote:Looking for a game at my local GW, using my regular all-comers Necron wraithwing list.

"Hey, you want a game?"
"Sure, what army are you playing?"
"Necrons"
*picks up DE codex* "hm...what should I take against Necrons"

Besides the list tailoring, he was actually a really good sport, especially after I had tabled him

He got tabled AND had a tailored list

DarkCorsair wrote:Looking for a game at my local GW, using my regular all-comers Necron wraithwing list.

"Hey, you want a game?"
"Sure, what army are you playing?"
"Necrons"
*picks up DE codex* "hm...what should I take against Necrons"

Besides the list tailoring, he was actually a really good sport, especially after I had tabled him

I wouldn't consider that tailoring. It's natural to guess and try and compensate for the opponent's strategy. I'm not defending list tailoring to the extreme, i.e. taking a screwy hard counter to every unit, but trying to at least win is always a good idea.

rodgers37 wrote:Anyway, Shrike was planning to outflank (on his own, not enough points to give him a squad in 1500 points), it was already looking not that great for me at all, on turn three, and in the shooting phase (well just finished movement, hadn't shot anything) I remembered I hadn't rolled for Shrike, so I said can I roll now? And he said no, you forgot, he's dead. We weren't playing a competitive game, at a friendly club (although maybe my list suggested otherwise, although at 1500 points and at that time it stopped being a good list to be honest, this was slightly less than two years ago. I know thats technically the rule, but any time (even once in a tournament game, not a serious competitive tournament, haven't been to one of those) I or someone else has forgotten a reserve roll, me (or them) have just said roll it now (or maybe leave it till next turn, not that unit is dead because you forgot to roll).

I don't believe that's a rule.

Honestly, the only poor sport I've had to play was a young gentleman with his dad in the FLGS. He was obviously fairly new to the game, so some of this is conjecture.

Played a 2v2 match, 1500 pts a player, he brings 2 land raiders, and starts boasting how "Maccrage" (Clagar) is gonna steamroll my Necrons. He keeps trash talking all game, and I sit there and take it as dignifiedly as possible. He swears his scout snipers are gonna wreck my troops. (I let them infiltrate into a corner, and just deployed elsewhere, they were stranded with nowhere to go all game. (Lol)
By the end of 4 turns, the store was closing, I'd wrecked both landraiders, Killed Calgar and his termie retinue, dealt with a drop pod full of melta sternguard, and a land speeder...and had taken 10 total casualties all game. I just smiled, and left so they closed up shop.

And GOD DID IT FEEL GOOD! O.o

iGuy91 wrote:Honestly, the only poor sport I've had to play was a young gentleman with his dad in the FLGS. He was obviously fairly new to the game, so some of this is conjecture.

Played a 2v2 match, 1500 pts a player, he brings 2 land raiders, and starts boasting how "Maccrage" (Clagar) is gonna steamroll my Necrons. He keeps trash talking all game, and I sit there and take it as dignifiedly as possible. He swears his scout snipers are gonna wreck my troops. (I let them infiltrate into a corner, and just deployed elsewhere, they were stranded with nowhere to go all game. (Lol)
By the end of 4 turns, the store was closing, I'd wrecked both landraiders, Killed Calgar and his termie retinue, dealt with a drop pod full of melta sternguard, and a land speeder...and had taken 10 total casualties all game. I just smiled, and left so they closed up shop.

And GOD DID IT FEEL GOOD! O.o

Oh yeah I know how good that feels too.

DarknessEternal wrote:

rodgers37 wrote:Anyway, Shrike was planning to outflank (on his own, not enough points to give him a squad in 1500 points), it was already looking not that great for me at all, on turn three, and in the shooting phase (well just finished movement, hadn't shot anything) I remembered I hadn't rolled for Shrike, so I said can I roll now? And he said no, you forgot, he's dead. We weren't playing a competitive game, at a friendly club (although maybe my list suggested otherwise, although at 1500 points and at that time it stopped being a good list to be honest, this was slightly less than two years ago. I know thats technically the rule, but any time (even once in a tournament game, not a serious competitive tournament, haven't been to one of those) I or someone else has forgotten a reserve roll, me (or them) have just said roll it now (or maybe leave it till next turn, not that unit is dead because you forgot to roll).

I don't believe that's a rule.

Isn't it?

There was a time that I was playing against my friend who plays necrons. It was a very close match the whole time up intill my assualt things made it to his gunline. All for troops he had left when turn 5 came around was a 5 man squad of immortals.He realised that he had no objectives held since my wyches and archon were contesting a objective that trazyan was holding.So he move and ran his immortals up to try and get a objective my warriors who lost their raider a few turns back were chilling at. When it was my turn a landed the archons raider infront of his immortals to force him to walk around it.After my turn we rolled for to see if we went to turn 6. We didn't.It was Dark Eldar:2 Necrons: 1. So I told him Good game and wanted a hand shake since I had fun. All he said back was if we had a turn 6 he would have beaten my over powered army. He then didn't talk to me the rest of the day which was stupid since he was my ride home from the place.

jrmudo wrote:There was a time that I was playing against my friend who plays necrons. It was a very close match the whole time up intill my assualt things made it to his gunline. All for troops he had left when turn 5 came around was a 5 man squad of immortals.He realised that he had no objectives held since my wyches and archon were contesting a objective that trazyan was holding.So he move and ran his immortals up to try and get a objective my warriors who lost their raider a few turns back were chilling at. When it was my turn a landed the archons raider infront of his immortals to force him to walk around it.After my turn we rolled for to see if we went to turn 6. We didn't.It was Dark Eldar:2 Necrons: 1. So I told him Good game and wanted a hand shake since I had fun. All he said back was if we had a turn 6 he would have beaten my over powered army. He then didn't talk to me the rest of the day which was stupid since he was my ride home from the place.

That's just plain horrendous...

rodgers37 wrote:

DarknessEternal wrote:

rodgers37 wrote:Anyway, Shrike was planning to outflank (on his own, not enough points to give him a squad in 1500 points), it was already looking not that great for me at all, on turn three, and in the shooting phase (well just finished movement, hadn't shot anything) I remembered I hadn't rolled for Shrike, so I said can I roll now? And he said no, you forgot, he's dead. We weren't playing a competitive game, at a friendly club (although maybe my list suggested otherwise, although at 1500 points and at that time it stopped being a good list to be honest, this was slightly less than two years ago. I know thats technically the rule, but any time (even once in a tournament game, not a serious competitive tournament, haven't been to one of those) I or someone else has forgotten a reserve roll, me (or them) have just said roll it now (or maybe leave it till next turn, not that unit is dead because you forgot to roll).

I don't believe that's a rule.

Isn't it?

If you forget to roll there is no rule I know of that says the unit is dead, they are just delayed until the next turn's roll comes around.

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

jrmudo wrote:There was a time that I was playing against my friend who plays necrons. It was a very close match the whole time up intill my assualt things made it to his gunline. All for troops he had left when turn 5 came around was a 5 man squad of immortals.He realised that he had no objectives held since my wyches and archon were contesting a objective that trazyan was holding.So he move and ran his immortals up to try and get a objective my warriors who lost their raider a few turns back were chilling at. When it was my turn a landed the archons raider infront of his immortals to force him to walk around it.After my turn we rolled for to see if we went to turn 6. We didn't.It was Dark Eldar:2 Necrons: 1. So I told him Good game and wanted a hand shake since I had fun. All he said back was if we had a turn 6 he would have beaten my over powered army. He then didn't talk to me the rest of the day which was stupid since he was my ride home from the place.

That's just plain horrendous...

I figured he would do it when I played him since he always has been the sore loser person. Since he got really mad when our friend who just started playing beat him with a 'lets try to make a legal list with these model' eldar. He got over it but still he gets made and curses my codex.Which i tend to laugh inside since I avoid the really common stuff i.e. I don't spam venoms with blasters in them.I usually play very fluffy lists.While he plays scarab farms or wraith wing and stuff. So i laugh when he calls me OP.

jrmudo wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

jrmudo wrote:There was a time that I was playing against my friend who plays necrons. It was a very close match the whole time up intill my assualt things made it to his gunline. All for troops he had left when turn 5 came around was a 5 man squad of immortals.He realised that he had no objectives held since my wyches and archon were contesting a objective that trazyan was holding.So he move and ran his immortals up to try and get a objective my warriors who lost their raider a few turns back were chilling at. When it was my turn a landed the archons raider infront of his immortals to force him to walk around it.After my turn we rolled for to see if we went to turn 6. We didn't.It was Dark Eldar:2 Necrons: 1. So I told him Good game and wanted a hand shake since I had fun. All he said back was if we had a turn 6 he would have beaten my over powered army. He then didn't talk to me the rest of the day which was stupid since he was my ride home from the place.

That's just plain horrendous...

I figured he would do it when I played him since he always has been the sore loser person. Since he got really mad when our friend who just started playing beat him with a 'lets try to make a legal list with these model' eldar. He got over it but still he gets made and curses my codex.Which i tend to laugh inside since I avoid the really common stuff i.e. I don't spam venoms with blasters in them.I usually play very fluffy lists.While he plays scarab farms or wraith wing and stuff. So i laugh when he calls me OP.

In all honesty, I actually think an uncommon "fluffy" list has a better chance than a meta list in some situations. So, my horribly uncoordinated "GET AS MANY POWER WEAPONS AND JUMP PACKS AS YOU CAN, FETH THE POINTS AND SCORING!" list often catches the opponent by surprise. Not many people expect 5 DC with Power Weapons and a squad of maxed out Sang Guard belting as fast as they can towards you in a Stormraven with a DC Dread!

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

jrmudo wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

jrmudo wrote:There was a time that I was playing against my friend who plays necrons. It was a very close match the whole time up intill my assualt things made it to his gunline. All for troops he had left when turn 5 came around was a 5 man squad of immortals.He realised that he had no objectives held since my wyches and archon were contesting a objective that trazyan was holding.So he move and ran his immortals up to try and get a objective my warriors who lost their raider a few turns back were chilling at. When it was my turn a landed the archons raider infront of his immortals to force him to walk around it.After my turn we rolled for to see if we went to turn 6. We didn't.It was Dark Eldar:2 Necrons: 1. So I told him Good game and wanted a hand shake since I had fun. All he said back was if we had a turn 6 he would have beaten my over powered army. He then didn't talk to me the rest of the day which was stupid since he was my ride home from the place.

That's just plain horrendous...

I figured he would do it when I played him since he always has been the sore loser person. Since he got really mad when our friend who just started playing beat him with a 'lets try to make a legal list with these model' eldar. He got over it but still he gets made and curses my codex.Which i tend to laugh inside since I avoid the really common stuff i.e. I don't spam venoms with blasters in them.I usually play very fluffy lists.While he plays scarab farms or wraith wing and stuff. So i laugh when he calls me OP.

In all honesty, I actually think an uncommon "fluffy" list has a better chance than a meta list in some situations. So, my horribly uncoordinated "GET AS MANY POWER WEAPONS AND JUMP PACKS AS YOU CAN, FETH THE POINTS AND SCORING!" list often catches the opponent by surprise. Not many people expect 5 DC with Power Weapons and a squad of maxed out Sang Guard belting as fast as they can towards you in a Stormraven with a DC Dread!

Thats why I take a fluffy list. A local Dark Eldar player told me that Reavers will never really help me other then them being a sucide tank hunters.A couple matches later and my reavers are a terror for my group. Which is great since Reavers are really important to my Kabal's fluff.

BlapBlapBlap wrote: Not many people expect 5 DC with Power Weapons and a squad of maxed out Sang Guard belting as fast as they can towards you in a Stormraven with a DC Dread!

You're right, most people don't expect illegal units. You can't put Death Company and Sanquinary Guard into the same Storm Raven.

DarknessEternal wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote: Not many people expect 5 DC with Power Weapons and a squad of maxed out Sang Guard belting as fast as they can towards you in a Stormraven with a DC Dread!

You're right, most people don't expect illegal units. You can't put Death Company and Sanquinary Guard into the same Storm Raven.

Damn, poorly worded.

I meant to say:

Not many people expect DC belting towards them in a Stormraven with a Dreadnought and Sanguinary Guard coming up behind them!

Castiel wrote:

rodgers37 wrote:

DarknessEternal wrote:

rodgers37 wrote:Anyway, Shrike was planning to outflank (on his own, not enough points to give him a squad in 1500 points), it was already looking not that great for me at all, on turn three, and in the shooting phase (well just finished movement, hadn't shot anything) I remembered I hadn't rolled for Shrike, so I said can I roll now? And he said no, you forgot, he's dead. We weren't playing a competitive game, at a friendly club (although maybe my list suggested otherwise, although at 1500 points and at that time it stopped being a good list to be honest, this was slightly less than two years ago. I know thats technically the rule, but any time (even once in a tournament game, not a serious competitive tournament, haven't been to one of those) I or someone else has forgotten a reserve roll, me (or them) have just said roll it now (or maybe leave it till next turn, not that unit is dead because you forgot to roll).

I don't believe that's a rule.

Isn't it?

If you forget to roll there is no rule I know of that says the unit is dead, they are just delayed until the next turn's roll comes around.

this is common in tourneys simply to stop cheaters going "oops i fogot to roll" for 4 turn and geting the fast skimmer tank shocking on an ob last turn, thus winning them the game, its harsh, but TBH, use postits and you wont "forget"

rodgers37 wrote:

DarknessEternal wrote:

rodgers37 wrote:Anyway, Shrike was planning to outflank (on his own, not enough points to give him a squad in 1500 points), it was already looking not that great for me at all, on turn three, and in the shooting phase (well just finished movement, hadn't shot anything) I remembered I hadn't rolled for Shrike, so I said can I roll now? And he said no, you forgot, he's dead. We weren't playing a competitive game, at a friendly club (although maybe my list suggested otherwise, although at 1500 points and at that time it stopped being a good list to be honest, this was slightly less than two years ago. I know thats technically the rule, but any time (even once in a tournament game, not a serious competitive tournament, haven't been to one of those) I or someone else has forgotten a reserve roll, me (or them) have just said roll it now (or maybe leave it till next turn, not that unit is dead because you forgot to roll).

I don't believe that's a rule.

Isn't it?

If you forget to roll, you just roll the following turn. You don't lose a unit because you forgot to roll for it to come on from reserves.

I remind my opponents all of the time to roll for reserves...so I can KILL THEM! The reserves, not my opponents...

oh yeah and anyone who has played on vassal

Rojan

nuff said

I had an Ultramarine player make stupid Twilight references about my Space Wolves than Rage and threaten to destroy every single one of my models. I had his brother a Salamander player give me a "poor" Sportsmanship score for "jinxing" his dice rolls and he believed that my army gives him bad luck, I was playing my Red Corsairs on the day.

Formosa wrote:oh yeah and anyone who has played on vassal

Rojan

nuff said

6,5
6,6
1,2

Ok, passed my leadership.

My mass IG Tank-Artillery Army ripped a Necron player a new one once.

He refuses to ever play against me to this day saying that I'm a noob who just Manticore-Basilisk spams and not a real player.

Alexzandvar wrote:My mass IG Tank-Artillery Army ripped a Necron player a new one once.

He refuses to ever play against me to this day saying that I'm a noob who just Manticore-Basilisk spams and not a real player.

I would totally play you again and again, throwing the lives of my metal peons away!

Thats like the dude with the medusa barrage...As long as you didnt quit when i got in minimum range of your barrages

im the same with me orks, if you dont kill at least half im disapointed :(

AzureDeath wrote:Mine was in an Apoc game. My eldar vs orks. Right after the sunstorm data sheet had been released. I showed him the sheet before the game began, he skimmed it said ok and we began.I got first turn, moved and then I started shooting. I combined all 6 beams and placed the mega blast marker and rolled fro skatter, dead on. Took out 27 of a 30 man unit. After smoke cleared he called me a cheater and scooped his models into a box and left.I couldn't believe he did that. The next day I went back to my local store and he was playing against another player. He saw me and gave me a dirty look and the proceeded to quit that game too. I laughed that a 40ish old person could act like a child. I asked the other play, SW, why he left and he told me that the guy kept trying to cheat and then saw me and got all flabbergasted. Oh well good ridence.

How sad someone's life has to be to wrap so much of one's self worth around a game and then needing to cheat to try to win at all costs. As long as the game I am playing is entertaining and fun I really don't care if I win or lose, as I am spending time with friends and enjoying myself. I've said it before and I'll say it again: If you aren't having fun playing the game, then you are most definitely doing it wrong.

Skriker

Engine of War wrote: I called them out on it but they refused to give me the apoc book to show proof.

They might as well wear a sign that says: "Hey, look at me, I'm cheating!!"

I told this story in another thread, but I think it's quite pertinant, so I'll give it anyways.

At my FLGS, there was one man, who litterally looked like Santa Clause, and he ADORED his Mech-dar. Craftworld Lugganath paintscheme, every figure modeled as it was equipped, not a single bit of greenstuff out of place.

One game, though, someone was laying down a blast template, and accidentally elbowed one of his Wave Serpents. The model fell, and one piece broke off.

The man immediately picked up his chair, smashed his opponent over the head with it, and then launched it into a nearby display case, wrecking about $200 worth of painted, assembled models. Needless to say, he never came around that shop again. :(

TermiesInARaider wrote:I told this story in another thread, but I think it's quite pertinant, so I'll give it anyways.

At my FLGS, there was one man, who litterally looked like Santa Clause, and he ADORED his Mech-dar. Craftworld Lugganath paintscheme, every figure modeled as it was equipped, not a single bit of greenstuff out of place.

One game, though, someone was laying down a blast template, and accidentally elbowed one of his Wave Serpents. The model fell, and one piece broke off.

The man immediately picked up his chair, smashed his opponent over the head with it, and then launched it into a nearby display case, wrecking about $200 worth of painted, assembled models. Needless to say, he never came around that shop again. :(

Even if he wanted to come back he wouldn't be allowed. Did he have to pay for anything?

Dayvuni wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:I told this story in another thread, but I think it's quite pertinant, so I'll give it anyways.

At my FLGS, there was one man, who litterally looked like Santa Clause, and he ADORED his Mech-dar. Craftworld Lugganath paintscheme, every figure modeled as it was equipped, not a single bit of greenstuff out of place.

One game, though, someone was laying down a blast template, and accidentally elbowed one of his Wave Serpents. The model fell, and one piece broke off.

The man immediately picked up his chair, smashed his opponent over the head with it, and then launched it into a nearby display case, wrecking about $200 worth of painted, assembled models. Needless to say, he never came around that shop again. :(

Even if he wanted to come back he wouldn't be allowed. Did he have to pay for anything?

Yeah, a load of damages. I think he may have even had some anger management classes, not quite sure. That was when I first started showing up at that store, so I wasn't really privy to the whole gossip.

TermiesInARaider wrote:Yeah, a load of damages. I think he may have even had some anger management classes, not quite sure. That was when I first started showing up at that store, so I wasn't really privy to the whole gossip.

That just sucks all the fun out of playing...I don't know why people do that, if he thinks about what he could buy with 200 dollars or he could smash the display case.

Dayvuni wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:Yeah, a load of damages. I think he may have even had some anger management classes, not quite sure. That was when I first started showing up at that store, so I wasn't really privy to the whole gossip.

That just sucks all the fun out of playing...I don't know why people do that, if he thinks about what he could buy with 200 dollars or he could smash the display case.

Doesn't it? The store manager came over to me and took me aside, explaining the whole TFG concept, and that 99.999% of wargamers were nothing like that, and thank god he did. Otherwise, 40k future=crushed.

Skriker wrote:

AzureDeath wrote:Mine was in an Apoc game. My eldar vs orks. Right after the sunstorm data sheet had been released. I showed him the sheet before the game began, he skimmed it said ok and we began.I got first turn, moved and then I started shooting. I combined all 6 beams and placed the mega blast marker and rolled fro skatter, dead on. Took out 27 of a 30 man unit. After smoke cleared he called me a cheater and scooped his models into a box and left.I couldn't believe he did that. The next day I went back to my local store and he was playing against another player. He saw me and gave me a dirty look and the proceeded to quit that game too. I laughed that a 40ish old person could act like a child. I asked the other play, SW, why he left and he told me that the guy kept trying to cheat and then saw me and got all flabbergasted. Oh well good ridence.

How sad someone's life has to be to wrap so much of one's self worth around a game and then needing to cheat to try to win at all costs. As long as the game I am playing is entertaining and fun I really don't care if I win or lose, as I am spending time with friends and enjoying myself. I've said it before and I'll say it again: If you aren't having fun playing the game, then you are most definitely doing it wrong.

Skriker

That is my moto at our local store. I'm the one who shows up to tournys to have fun, no stress that way. It is also fun watching everyone else sweat. Skriker, you and I are cut from the same cloth. We play mostly at my house now because of that only for fun players allowed and we do almost every sunday for fantasy and monday for 40k.

AzureDeath wrote:That is my moto at our local store. I'm the one who shows up to tournys to have fun, no stress that way. It is also fun watching everyone else sweat. Skriker, you and I are cut from the same cloth. We play mostly at my house now because of that only for fun players allowed and we do almost every sunday for fantasy and monday for 40k.

These are also many of the reasons why I have a 4x8 table in my home. Only have to play with people who I like and not some stranger off the street who is no fun to play. I do play in a local store based Flames of War league, but aside from one player who used to make a habit of looking at his opponent's army before making his own list, the group is really good and despite some competitiveness for bragging rights I always have a good time playing anyone else in the league.

Skriker

TermiesInARaider wrote:

Dayvuni wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:Yeah, a load of damages. I think he may have even had some anger management classes, not quite sure. That was when I first started showing up at that store, so I wasn't really privy to the whole gossip.

That just sucks all the fun out of playing...I don't know why people do that, if he thinks about what he could buy with 200 dollars or he could smash the display case.

Doesn't it? The store manager came over to me and took me aside, explaining the whole TFG concept, and that 99.999% of wargamers were nothing like that, and thank god he did. Otherwise, 40k future=crushed.

The other gamers at my FLGS are pretty nice and take me through the game, I have not witnessed a depute where and property was broken as a result. In a game this expensive you can't risk damage to your $50 tactical squad which weeds out most of the irresponsible and unfriendly players. And if you have a bad rep, no one will want to play with you.

How long have you been playing?



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Engine of War wrote: I called them out on it but they refused to give me the apoc book to show proof.

They might as well wear a sign that says: "Hey, look at me, I'm cheating!!"

Yea that is, I like to keep the rule books handy for that purpose. And if you "let" him have the rule you can use that as an excuse if you want.

One of the local TFG's with his GK's vs a 12 year old Daemon player... 1st turn, TFG casts warp quake across the entire table with 3 full strike squads & 2 full interceptor squads, then tells the poor kid he needs to buy a real army not stop playing the crap army.

Once 6th editon hits and/or Daemons get a new codex, this moron had a debt to pay on behalf of my fellow daemon player!

Experiment 626 wrote:One of the local TFG's with his GK's vs a 12 year old Daemon player... 1st turn, TFG casts warp quake across the entire table with 3 full strike squads & 2 full interceptor squads, then tells the poor kid he needs to buy a real army not stop playing the crap army.

Once 6th editon hits and/or Daemons get a new codex, this moron had a debt to pay on behalf of my fellow daemon player!

Poor kid, hope he does get the revenge.

Dayvuni wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:One of the local TFG's with his GK's vs a 12 year old Daemon player... 1st turn, TFG casts warp quake across the entire table with 3 full strike squads & 2 full interceptor squads, then tells the poor kid he needs to buy a real army not stop playing the crap army.

Once 6th editon hits and/or Daemons get a new codex, this moron had a debt to pay on behalf of my fellow daemon player!

Poor kid, hope he does get the revenge.

What's going to happen is that a unit can hop out of enemy units, killing them and bypassing Warp Quake.

Then who will have the upper claw? ZOIDBER - I mean, Chaos Daemons.

Ok well here is my story, I'm newb to the game still and have played in only one tournament, and as many games as I can get. I normally play with my friend and my younger brother (I'm 16), our friend is what I have learned to call a, "win at all cost gamer" he runs an IG vendetta/tank list (and will nearly come to tears whenever he loses a vehicle in battle). One instance stands out in my memory, we had just come come to our FLGS and my friend and I set up to play an 1850 game. I play a mech/jumpy blood angels list with predators and 1 LR, He runs with as many vendettas as he can and other tanks. He sets up first, and I go second. I steel the init. and unload in to cover save less flyers, and destroy as many as I can while also moving up my assault marines with meltas. He flips out once his first vendetta hits the ground and starts uttering the most emperor forsaken swears I have ever heard in one sentence. He eventually calms down after he sees everyone staring at him awed by his primal fury. He then goes about his turn, and rolls a one an terrain test for a leman russ, stares at the dice, looks at me, and walks out of the room. I then call out to him, "So did I win?"

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

Dayvuni wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:One of the local TFG's with his GK's vs a 12 year old Daemon player... 1st turn, TFG casts warp quake across the entire table with 3 full strike squads & 2 full interceptor squads, then tells the poor kid he needs to buy a real army not stop playing the crap army.

Once 6th editon hits and/or Daemons get a new codex, this moron had a debt to pay on behalf of my fellow daemon player!

Poor kid, hope he does get the revenge.

What's going to happen is that a unit can hop out of enemy units, killing them and bypassing Warp Quake.

Then who will have the upper claw? ZOIDBER - I mean, Chaos Daemons.

My god, a Zoidberg themed army would be amazing

OT, I would hate to see something like that happen. I'd probably pull my army out on the spot and ask the kid if he'd like to play someone who can actually play the game, and try to give him as fair a matchup as I can. I dont get how people find enjoyment in being jerks like that. It cant be fun to just abuse the rules like that.... can it?

MrMoustaffa wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

Dayvuni wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:One of the local TFG's with his GK's vs a 12 year old Daemon player... 1st turn, TFG casts warp quake across the entire table with 3 full strike squads & 2 full interceptor squads, then tells the poor kid he needs to buy a real army not stop playing the crap army.

Once 6th editon hits and/or Daemons get a new codex, this moron had a debt to pay on behalf of my fellow daemon player!

Poor kid, hope he does get the revenge.

What's going to happen is that a unit can hop out of enemy units, killing them and bypassing Warp Quake.

Then who will have the upper claw? ZOIDBER - I mean, Chaos Daemons.

My god, a Zoidberg themed army would be amazing

OT, I would hate to see something like that happen. I'd probably pull my army out on the spot and ask the kid if he'd like to play someone who can actually play the game, and try to give him as fair a matchup as I can. I dont get how people find enjoyment in being jerks like that. It cant be fun to just abuse the rules like that.... can it?

Apparently so.

I play purely for fun. Unfortunately, I'm pretty poor with communication, so I often get stuck with a particular WAAC player at events.

Being blamed for losing 2 games when he has a single scoring unit in an army list of well over 1000pts whilst I had 2 in just over 500 is pretty damned awful.

Dayvuni wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:

Dayvuni wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:Yeah, a load of damages. I think he may have even had some anger management classes, not quite sure. That was when I first started showing up at that store, so I wasn't really privy to the whole gossip.

That just sucks all the fun out of playing...I don't know why people do that, if he thinks about what he could buy with 200 dollars or he could smash the display case.

Doesn't it? The store manager came over to me and took me aside, explaining the whole TFG concept, and that 99.999% of wargamers were nothing like that, and thank god he did. Otherwise, 40k future=crushed.

The other gamers at my FLGS are pretty nice and take me through the game, I have not witnessed a depute where and property was broken as a result. In a game this expensive you can't risk damage to your $50 tactical squad which weeds out most of the irresponsible and unfriendly players. And if you have a bad rep, no one will want to play with you.

How long have you been playing?

My first army, 1000 points of Codex Marines, is in the mail. That was back in highschool, when I didn't have time and money, and could merely stand around the LFGS and drool. Oh, good times...

Experiment 626 wrote:One of the local TFG's with his GK's vs a 12 year old Daemon player... 1st turn, TFG casts warp quake across the entire table with 3 full strike squads & 2 full interceptor squads, then tells the poor kid he needs to buy a real army not stop playing the crap army.

Once 6th editon hits and/or Daemons get a new codex, this moron had a debt to pay on behalf of my fellow daemon player!

Ahhhh so nice to see adult players who are incapable of playing a real game against a 12 year old so pull out the warp quake BS on them instead. What a real man that fan guy must be to be able to smack around a 12 year old opponent like that...

I also concur on the later comments as to how is that fun? When I go out to play a game or two that is what I want to do. One turn is not a game.

Skriker

Skriker wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:One of the local TFG's with his GK's vs a 12 year old Daemon player... 1st turn, TFG casts warp quake across the entire table with 3 full strike squads & 2 full interceptor squads, then tells the poor kid he needs to buy a real army not stop playing the crap army.

Once 6th editon hits and/or Daemons get a new codex, this moron had a debt to pay on behalf of my fellow daemon player!

Ahhhh so nice to see adult players who are incapable of playing a real game against a 12 year old so pull out the warp quake BS on them instead. What a real man that fan guy must be to be able to smack around a 12 year old opponent like that...

I also concur on the later comments as to how is that fun? When I go out to play a game or two that is what I want to do. One turn is not a game.

Skriker

Well, you know those mid 20-somethings who have to keep their perfect record @ 40k going so they can talk-up how awsome they are to the ladies!

After witnessing this travesty, I simply told the poor kid that I'd play him with my own Daemons, maybe show him a trick or two while rolling the worst possible dice rolls he's ever seen, and we could leave the big, bad, awsome GK jerk to go flex his ego to someone else who couldn't give a flying monkey-fart!
This is also one of the terds who would come into the local GW store and curbstomp other young regulars with his 'practice' lists for things like the Warmaster's Challenge and/or 'Ard Boyz.

WAAC's jerks will always be fun-sucking WAAC's jerks.

Im fortunate enough to have never really played against anyone as bad as some of these people. My only real experience with poor sportsmanship happened at the first tournament I played in last year. I was playing a Tau player who spent most of the game whining about how we were playing an annihilation game when his list was more suited to objectives. He also threw a bit of a fit over my "Eldar cheese" despite me playing a very sub-optimal Alaitoc ranger force list. He ended up beating me in the end, due largely to my ridiculously poor dice rolls (I ended up being voted "Most unfortunate player"). Luckily there were no thrown chairs or destroyed models, or even rage quits, just a whole lot of whining.

BrotherGnaeus wrote:Ok well here is my story, I'm newb to the game still and have played in only one tournament, and as many games as I can get. I normally play with my friend and my younger brother (I'm 16), our friend is what I have learned to call a, "win at all cost gamer" he runs an IG vendetta/tank list (and will nearly come to tears whenever he loses a vehicle in battle). One instance stands out in my memory, we had just come come to our FLGS and my friend and I set up to play an 1850 game. I play a mech/jumpy blood angels list with predators and 1 LR, He runs with as many vendettas as he can and other tanks. He sets up first, and I go second. I steel the init. and unload in to cover save less flyers, and destroy as many as I can while also moving up my assault marines with meltas. He flips out once his first vendetta hits the ground and starts uttering the most emperor forsaken swears I have ever heard in one sentence. He eventually calms down after he sees everyone staring at him awed by his primal fury. He then goes about his turn, and rolls a one an terrain test for a leman russ, stares at the dice, looks at me, and walks out of the room. I then call out to him, "So did I win?"

Lol, have you told him its just a game/tank? He has more.

I was playing against a GK player at our FLGS, I usually only play against people I know or close friends of friends (I'm big on having fun, if crap dies it dies). So I was waiting for my buddy, but before he left the house he got some wife AGGRO, so this guy walks up to me and asks to play. We proceed to play (I play IF SM) a 1750 game. Kid has 2 Storm raves and lots of pallies and Draigo, I fielded somewhat of a Mech heavy list, 3 razors, 2 dreads, 1 LR. So he sets up first, I steal init. Focus on one storm raven, drop it. He start complaining that Autos can't hurt the darn thing, even after seeing the Str to Toughness. He finally relents, his turn he blasts the other storm raven towards my direction, and moves his pallies straight foward into some trees. I tell him he has to roll 2 dice to go into cover (he was 1 inch from the trees, so he moved his guys 5 inches in). He blows up saying that only applies to things that are already in cover. Told him to take a chill pill and for the sake of not arguing I let him have it. He shoots his MM from the raven with PoTMS, he whiffs it both times. My turn I drop his stormraven with the dreads, I shot everything else at his terms and charged Lysander with 5 LC/LC terms and a chappie. By the end of this turn he said he was going to smash my models, so this guy walks to my side of the board ( little did he know, at the time I was currently training for my first prof. MMA fight) So I proceeded to hip toss this guy on the floor and told him if he ever came near me that I was going to defend my self and call the cops, oh and he got banned from the store after that.


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We all have one aswell, my moment of bad sportsmanship was when I was playing my nemesis (everytime this guy walks in we have a geek staredown and we stop what we are doing and start playing a game) he plays Eldar. So to get to the story he was doing his turn, did all his guides and landed and penned every dam shot he did to my LR..... he says "Well young grasshopper, seems like the Fists just got F$)##(." I looked at him and almost just almost threw a die at him, but as the tactical genius that I am, he had over extended to try and take out my LR and terms (since every turn after that I just skirted them around his army and never did actually charge, just used them as a meat shield). I proceeded to melt his face with my razors/dreads and 10 foot slogging sterns, while he just focused on the terms/Lysander.

He was not happy in the end. We shook hands and went to grab a beer and then continued our rivalry.

I, ah, obviously don't play out at the local GW or FLGS enough, because the worst I encountered was this one guy who gloated more than a little when his Uriah-bomb took out his opponent's Chapter Master and Honor Guard which had spent the final month or two of the Witch Hunters codex brutalizing units while withstanding most of what the Sisters could bring to bear on them.

Wait, no, that was me... And I feel terrible about it.

I have another Vassal story to add. Kinda long, if you want to see why my opponent ragequit skip to the HERES

I asked a guy if he wanted to play a 2k point game. He told me he would under no circumstance play me unless i told him what army i was bringing. I told him Dark Eldar, and wrote up a list for Necrons. I expected him to bring some sort of heavy armor type stuff.

My list consisted of roughly 20 warriors, with an orb overlord (phaeron) to give them relentless, another smaller amount of warriors (maybe 14-17) with Imotekh(again for the relentless) and an orb lord 10 deathmarks, a ctan with tranny bolt and pyreshards (love dem pyreshards) and 10 scarabs, and for fun, 10 triarch praetorians with their normal weapons.

Opponent selects the map, one with lots of buildings and rocks. He calls the buildings blos, with 3inches needed to get on top, and the rocks 4+ dt.

Mission and deployment: Annihilation and dawn of war. Roll off init, opponent wins, and chooses me to go first.

We reveal our lists, hes playing dark angels (i think). He has 3 5ish man squads of terminators, 2 land raiders, and 3 venerable dreadnoughts against my "DE" list.
After i revealed my list he didnt talk too much

I say that everything of mine except for the deathmarks and the OL squad is walking on the board. I place my OL squad waaay behind a blos building, giving him no los on them.
Game begins, i walk all my stuff on the board, arranging my scarabs so no matter the angle you target them atleast half are behind blos. Ctan goes far right, praetorians come in far left.
Turn 1b, he drives his LRs on to the board next to each other down the middle walks the noughts in far right, says one of his termie squads is DSing in. Shooting, declares shooting on my scarabs, but i tell him that 2 of his noughts have no los to em, and he (piss'ed offedly) skips attempting to fire his 3rd nought (which has clear los) on them.

Turn 2, move my praetorians, 20 blob of warriors down the right side. Move my scarabs up, i start getting them ready to spring on the noughts.
Turn 2b, He doesnt do much but takes a couple of ineffective pot shots.
Turn 3, end of NF from imotekh, continue moving and keeping my guys in blos, to avoid fire from the LRs and the noughts.
Turn 3b, he brings his termies in, starts to go to roll them next to my 20 blob in a large clear space. I call ethereal interception and hunters from hyperspace so he changes his DS point from there to the other side of the board way away from anything. I Hunters from hyperspace his HQ (inside a LR) and ds my deathmarks in the same spot he was going to ds his termies, i scatter, and end up 8 inches away from my 20 warrior blob. He moves his lr 12 inches, disembarks a termie squad that includes a librarian, shoots into the warriors doing nada, his LR shoots the deathmarks killing three. Assault. He assaults my warriors. He kills 9 warriors, i do nada to him. Roll morale fail, he cant sweep.

HERES
where he ragequit. For my flee, i rolled double 1's. I lol'd hard! I did some quick computing and realized that not only was i going to rally that warrior unit (12 guys left from a 21 man squad) with 22 rf shots and even if i failed that i would still be atleast 11 shots, but my death marks were in RF, and with a 12 inch move, my praetorians would be within 6 of that termie squad and able to fire 10 str 5 ap2 shots into them. In case That didnt clinche it, i had my scarabs actually closer to those termies, and now my OL with MSS was in range to get in b2b. Yeah, he ragequit right there. Im still waiting to see him again


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Not to mention that since I revealed my list the game went on in basic silence

Played someone, he used space wolves...

Basimpo wrote: I told him Dark Eldar, and wrote up a list for Necrons. I expected him to bring some sort of heavy armor type stuff.

You realise that in this story, you were the poor sport?

How am I the poor sport? Because he demanded that I bring a list he could tailor his army to? I mean, there was more conversation than just Hey, what army are you bringing, it was, Hey, what army are you? Ah, so, ill make the room... I said WHAT army are you? So...Youll pick the map? I will NOT play you unless you tell me what army you are bringing!

Tailoring= Poor sportsmanship shenanigans, in my humble opinion.

Basimpo wrote:How am I the poor sport? Because he demanded that I bring a list he could tailor his army to? I mean, there was more conversation than just Hey, what army are you bringing, it was, Hey, what army are you? Ah, so, ill make the room... I said WHAT army are you? So...Youll pick the map? I will NOT play you unless you tell me what army you are bringing!

Tailoring= Poor sportsmanship shenanigans, in my humble opinion.

Are you for real? You agreed to a condition before the game, and then broke it. If you didn't want to play a tailored match, why agree to play a tailored match?

Actually, what was going on is he thought i was a new person and he was hoping to bully someone into an easy victory. As evidenced by him quitting after he won an assault.

Basimpo wrote:Actually, what was going on is he thought i was a new person and he was hoping to bully someone into an easy victory. As evidenced by him quitting after he won an assault.

He thought you were going to be playing a tailored match, and you lied about it. You're lucky he didn't quit in the first turn.

there was a kid at my old club who would rage quit as soon as a unit got killed. this one time he smashed all his marines off the table and stomped his rhino flat XD

he goes to my LGW too but no one plays him because he just moans about how he'll loose the game any way :/

Pouncey wrote:I, ah, obviously don't play out at the local GW or FLGS enough, because the worst I encountered was this one guy who gloated more than a little when his Uriah-bomb took out his opponent's Chapter Master and Honor Guard which had spent the final month or two of the Witch Hunters codex brutalizing units while withstanding most of what the Sisters could bring to bear on them.

Wait, no, that was me... And I feel terrible about it.

Don't worry, unlike some you know you did wrong and you feel bad, that makes it at least forgivable and forgettable unlike some jerks Least that's how i see it

I normally play with my 4 friends when we go to our game store. This one time there were only three of us so we ended up finding this guy at the store to fill the slot. I ended up getting stuck on his team. It was my nids and his orks vs marines and marines (go figure). the first thing that caught my attention was his list. it was chock full of commandos, a fully kitted out nob squad for wound shenanigans, a battle wagon, big mec and some boys. none of our lists were win at all costs lists, for god sakes I had a carnifex. Now let me get this out there, we are by no words new players. we have all been playing since the end of 3rd edition. the marines got first turn and shot some of our stuff. we did what normal nids and orks did and went flat out at them, then the blood talon dread came in in the drop pod... this was second turn and the guy charged it with his nobs and big mec. proceeded to loose over half the squad and pout and complain that it was the most overpowered thing he had ever seen in his life and that my friend should burn all his models. meanwhile he was charging terminators with commandos. by the end of turn 3 he had lost almost everything and was raging. he was telling me i was a horrible teammate for not screening his units, not killing things with shooting (nids?) and then called me a dumb f**k. this whole game he was the biggest rules lawyer too. when turn 4 rolled around my genestealer swarms hit and shredded the marines. he began gloating saying that it was all his doing and that the orks had smashed the g*y marines. I just looked at him and asked "buddy. where are your orks?" after he freaked out and left. after playing this a** hat we learned that nobody will play with him in the store because of stuff like this.

doc1234 wrote:

Pouncey wrote:I, ah, obviously don't play out at the local GW or FLGS enough, because the worst I encountered was this one guy who gloated more than a little when his Uriah-bomb took out his opponent's Chapter Master and Honor Guard which had spent the final month or two of the Witch Hunters codex brutalizing units while withstanding most of what the Sisters could bring to bear on them.

Wait, no, that was me... And I feel terrible about it.

Don't worry, unlike some you know you did wrong and you feel bad, that makes it at least forgivable and forgettable unlike some jerks Least that's how i see it

:: nods :: Thanks.

It doesn't help that it was our first game since after the WD dex came out, and I'd been cackling - I mean that literally, as while describing how slaughterful they are, I would often burst into cackling laughter - around the house about how the DCAs were going to tear the Honor Guard apart in the few days prior to the game - in what little defense there is for me, when I say brutalizing, I mean marching across the field on foot while taking only 1-2 casualties, and then proceeding to kill unit after unit in one round of CC each.

My opponent in that game now plays Orks, and our last game was actually a draw with 0 objectives held by either side, and I didn't take Uriah or a Battle Conclave at all, but I did take Celestine, but only because I love the model and have had it since before the WD dex and had even used her frequently prior to its release.

There was one BA player who went with the dreadnought spam list, and would absolutely cream younger players and those known mainly to play friendly games with his list, which was maxed out for as much competetiveness he could get while still spamming dreadnoughts. After he tabled a new nid player's (and by new I meant like 12-13 years old) army with a crap ton of lawnmower dreads, he laughed and said how full of garbage xeno armies were and told the kid to go buy a real f ing army or go home and go back to sucking like how he sucked at the game. So an old neckbeard veteran ork player pats him on the shoulder and challenges him to a game. The Ork player asked if he could use some IA stuff and the BA player agreed and didn't even bother to ask any further, likely being so full of himself he didn't even bother to check what he meant by "some" IA stuff.

Expecting a green tide list, the aforementioned TFG packed a lot of Blood Talons and when the Annhiliation mission was rolled he had probably the smuggest grin ever. Until he saw the Ork player calmly setting down his lovingly painted Ork IA dreadlist. Probably the funniest moment throughout the whole ordeal was the look on his face as he realized that the Ork player had more walkers than he did. A little less smug but still boasting out loud about how he was going to crush the Orks "rickety pieces of cheap sh , go imperial or go home xeno loving f " Was one thing he said. But then the Deff Dreads proceeded to more or less rip his own Dreadnoughts apart, the Killa kans ran amuck and shot his death company dreads to pieces, and the Mega Deff Dreads ID'd his Dante in one go.

By turn five, he had one Dread with one arm left and he was absolutely fuming, and when the Mega dread punched it out, he flew into the longest, most profanity ladened rant about how the orks were so overpowered and how people who played xeno armies were cheese mongering c s who didn't deserve to play this game and how he should have had it in the bag. He tried to reach over and grab the mega dread model that killed his Dread, but the Manager grabbed him by the shoulder and sent him on his way. Once he was gone, everyone had a rather good laugh and I personally congratulated the Ork player.

I've got to ask, where the hell do you find these people? The absolute worst thing I've experienced are few rules lawyers, pouters, and a couple guys packing it up by turn 2 after getting into a hole they didn't think they could fight out of.

How did the manager let that go on so long? He should have been told to leave and not come back until he can control his mouth. People like him should be sterilized to prevent them from ever creating life. They'll just feth it up.

timetowaste85 wrote:How did the manager let that go on so long? He should have been told to leave and not come back until he can control his mouth. People like him should be sterilized to prevent them from ever creating life. They'll just feth it up.

. . . That's a little much, don't you think?

Pouncey wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:How did the manager let that go on so long? He should have been told to leave and not come back until he can control his mouth. People like him should be sterilized to prevent them from ever creating life. They'll just feth it up.

. . . That's a little much, don't you think?

Nah, I'm secure in my assessment of his need to not reproduce. At least I'm not calling for the electric chair for the guy. Remember, we have population problems at the moment-my solution benefits humanity.

timetowaste85 wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:How did the manager let that go on so long? He should have been told to leave and not come back until he can control his mouth. People like him should be sterilized to prevent them from ever creating life. They'll just feth it up.

. . . That's a little much, don't you think?

Nah, I'm secure in my assessment of his need to not reproduce. At least I'm not calling for the electric chair for the guy. Remember, we have population problems at the moment-my solution benefits humanity.

Mmh, well, it's unnecessary. Such people often lack the capability to attract a mate in the first place.

Pouncey wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:How did the manager let that go on so long? He should have been told to leave and not come back until he can control his mouth. People like him should be sterilized to prevent them from ever creating life. They'll just feth it up.

. . . That's a little much, don't you think?

Nah, I'm secure in my assessment of his need to not reproduce. At least I'm not calling for the electric chair for the guy. Remember, we have population problems at the moment-my solution benefits humanity.

Mmh, well, it's unnecessary. Such people often lack the capability to attract a mate in the first place.

I've found a-holes like him will get somebody, usually through fear/intimidation. It's a disgusting world we live in. My views are radical, but I don't think they're wrong.

timetowaste85 wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:How did the manager let that go on so long? He should have been told to leave and not come back until he can control his mouth. People like him should be sterilized to prevent them from ever creating life. They'll just feth it up.

. . . That's a little much, don't you think?

Nah, I'm secure in my assessment of his need to not reproduce. At least I'm not calling for the electric chair for the guy. Remember, we have population problems at the moment-my solution benefits humanity.

Mmh, well, it's unnecessary. Such people often lack the capability to attract a mate in the first place.

I've found a-holes like him will get somebody, usually through fear/intimidation. It's a disgusting world we live in. My views are radical, but I don't think they're wrong.

:: nods :: I wish you the best of luck.

Hugs?

I noticed that guy was unusually muscular and fit for a 40k player, so I have a personal theory that he's a bully outside of the context of the game and indulges in a nerdy habit to pick on a hobby typically filled with the less than physically fit. And thus had a meltdown when someone stood up to him and won.

Kaldor wrote:

Basimpo wrote:Actually, what was going on is he thought i was a new person and he was hoping to bully someone into an easy victory. As evidenced by him quitting after he won an assault.

He thought you were going to be playing a tailored match, and you lied about it. You're lucky he didn't quit in the first turn.

I agree with Kaldor.

If it was me I wouldnt even have unpacked my army and just moved onto the next person. I don't ask people what army they are bringing to tailor mine to counter theres. I want to know just so I can prep my strategy and look up what are the highest value targets.

Pouncey wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:How did the manager let that go on so long? He should have been told to leave and not come back until he can control his mouth. People like him should be sterilized to prevent them from ever creating life. They'll just feth it up.

. . . That's a little much, don't you think?

Nah, I'm secure in my assessment of his need to not reproduce. At least I'm not calling for the electric chair for the guy. Remember, we have population problems at the moment-my solution benefits humanity.

Mmh, well, it's unnecessary. Such people often lack the capability to attract a mate in the first place.

I've found a-holes like him will get somebody, usually through fear/intimidation. It's a disgusting world we live in. My views are radical, but I don't think they're wrong.

:: nods :: I wish you the best of luck.

Hugs?

Haha, sure. Hugs work. I wish the world could be solved by hugs.

timetowaste85 wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:I've found a-holes like him will get somebody, usually through fear/intimidation. It's a disgusting world we live in. My views are radical, but I don't think they're wrong.

:: nods :: I wish you the best of luck.

Hugs?

Haha, sure. Hugs work. I wish the world could be solved by hugs.

You mean... it can't?

That's a scary thought, but I don't believe you, so I'm going to try anyways. :: huggles ::

Pouncey wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:I've found a-holes like him will get somebody, usually through fear/intimidation. It's a disgusting world we live in. My views are radical, but I don't think they're wrong.

:: nods :: I wish you the best of luck.

Hugs?

Haha, sure. Hugs work. I wish the world could be solved by hugs.

You mean... it can't?

That's a scary thought, but I don't believe you, so I'm going to try anyways. :: huggles ::

You could always try solving it through the power of trains, heavy metal and hugs. No-one can resist that!

Kain wrote:I noticed that guy was unusually muscular and fit for a 40k player, so I have a personal theory that he's a bully outside of the context of the game and indulges in a nerdy habit to pick on a hobby typically filled with the less than physically fit. And thus had a meltdown when someone stood up to him and won.

Awesome stereotype. As stated in previous threads I myself am more muscular than most "nerds" in FLGS because I kayak, mountain bike, ski etc etc.

He probably is just a regular guy who is competitive, many competitive people hate losing. For all you know he was in the military.

My theory is you were a person who was picked on by a lot by people who are muscular and thus assume anyone who is physically fit and competitive is a bully.

Kain wrote:I noticed that guy was unusually muscular and fit for a 40k player, so I have a personal theory that he's a bully outside of the context of the game and indulges in a nerdy habit to pick on a hobby typically filled with the less than physically fit. And thus had a meltdown when someone stood up to him and won.

Muscles = bullies?

Things like this are why I don't even go to LGSs anymore, there is just too much stupidity in the air.

Silentway wrote:

Kain wrote:I noticed that guy was unusually muscular and fit for a 40k player, so I have a personal theory that he's a bully outside of the context of the game and indulges in a nerdy habit to pick on a hobby typically filled with the less than physically fit. And thus had a meltdown when someone stood up to him and won.

Awesome stereotype. As stated in previous threads I myself am more muscular than most "nerds" in FLGS because I kayak, mountain bike, ski etc etc.

He probably is just a regular guy who is competitive, many competitive people hate losing. For all you know he was in the military.

My theory is you were a person who was picked on by a lot by people who are muscular and thus assume anyone who is physically fit and competitive is a bully.

He was a jackasss without compare. That's definitely bully material. That and the fact that he would keep on taunting losing players, then pick on them *after* they lost.

When I kayak or mountain bike I taunt people so they HTFU not to be a bully. I've seen more "skinny nerds" emo rage and talk gak than muscular guys. When I lose people talk gak to me and I talk gak to other people, it doesnt make me or them a bully and it doesnt reflect how I treat others outside of whatever activity.

I dont doubt he was a jackass at your store but to assume he's always liek that or that he's a bully because he is physically fit is just as childish.

Silentway wrote:When I kayak or mountain bike I taunt people so they HTFU not to be a bully. I've seen more "skinny nerds" emo rage and talk gak than muscular guys.

Dont doubt he was a jackass at your store but to assume he's always liek that or that he's a bully because he is physically fit is just as childish.

He told someone half his age he was worthless, a failure at life, that he was born out of wedlock, that he sucked a mountain of , questioned his masculinity, threatened to physically beat him up, insulted him with every move he made, and generally spoke like a sailor with Tourette's syndrome who just stubbed his toe while playing counterstrike. That's a bully.

Kain wrote:I noticed that guy was unusually muscular and fit for a 40k player, so I have a personal theory that he's a bully outside of the context of the game and indulges in a nerdy habit to pick on a hobby typically filled with the less than physically fit. And thus had a meltdown when someone stood up to him and won.

Kain wrote:

Silentway wrote:When I kayak or mountain bike I taunt people so they HTFU not to be a bully. I've seen more "skinny nerds" emo rage and talk gak than muscular guys.

Dont doubt he was a jackass at your store but to assume he's always liek that or that he's a bully because he is physically fit is just as childish.

He told someone half his age he was worthless, a failure at life, that he was born out of wedlock, that he sucked a mountain of , questioned his masculinity, threatened to physically beat him up, insulted him with every move he made, and generally spoke like a sailor with Tourette's syndrome who just stubbed his toe while playing counterstrike. That's a bully.

That doesn't change how idiotic your bolded statement is, seriously, "I saw this muscular guy so he must be a bully, herp derp."

Amaya wrote:

Kain wrote:I noticed that guy was unusually muscular and fit for a 40k player, so I have a personal theory that he's a bully outside of the context of the game and indulges in a nerdy habit to pick on a hobby typically filled with the less than physically fit. And thus had a meltdown when someone stood up to him and won.

Kain wrote:

Silentway wrote:When I kayak or mountain bike I taunt people so they HTFU not to be a bully. I've seen more "skinny nerds" emo rage and talk gak than muscular guys.

Dont doubt he was a jackass at your store but to assume he's always liek that or that he's a bully because he is physically fit is just as childish.

He told someone half his age he was worthless, a failure at life, that he was born out of wedlock, that he sucked a mountain of , questioned his masculinity, threatened to physically beat him up, insulted him with every move he made, and generally spoke like a sailor with Tourette's syndrome who just stubbed his toe while playing counterstrike. That's a bully.

That doesn't change how idiotic your bolded statement is, seriously, "I saw this muscular guy so he must be a bully, herp derp."

Fair enough, i'll concede that I said something without thinking clearly. My apologies for any bad feelings.

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:I've found a-holes like him will get somebody, usually through fear/intimidation. It's a disgusting world we live in. My views are radical, but I don't think they're wrong.

:: nods :: I wish you the best of luck.

Hugs?

Haha, sure. Hugs work. I wish the world could be solved by hugs.

You mean... it can't?

That's a scary thought, but I don't believe you, so I'm going to try anyways. :: huggles ::

You could always try solving it through the power of trains, heavy metal and hugs. No-one can resist that!

Hmm... I suppose it could work.

Can they be model trains kitted out to look like they belong in the WH40k universe?

Yes.

Pouncey wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:I've found a-holes like him will get somebody, usually through fear/intimidation. It's a disgusting world we live in. My views are radical, but I don't think they're wrong.

:: nods :: I wish you the best of luck.

Hugs?

Haha, sure. Hugs work. I wish the world could be solved by hugs.

You mean... it can't?

That's a scary thought, but I don't believe you, so I'm going to try anyways. :: huggles ::

You could always try solving it through the power of trains, heavy metal and hugs. No-one can resist that!

Hmm... I suppose it could work.

Can they be model trains kitted out to look like they belong in the WH40k universe?

Grimdark Thomas the Tank engine...My god, someone convert this into being THIS INSTANT!

Pouncey wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:I've found a-holes like him will get somebody, usually through fear/intimidation. It's a disgusting world we live in. My views are radical, but I don't think they're wrong.

:: nods :: I wish you the best of luck.

Hugs?

Haha, sure. Hugs work. I wish the world could be solved by hugs.

You mean... it can't?

That's a scary thought, but I don't believe you, so I'm going to try anyways. :: huggles ::

You could always try solving it through the power of trains, heavy metal and hugs. No-one can resist that!

Hmm... I suppose it could work.

Can they be model trains kitted out to look like they belong in the WH40k universe?

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer/CHAOS_DWARFS/CHAOS-DWARF-IRON-DAEMON.html

Just to show that Grimdark trains have potential anywhere.

Amaya wrote:Yes.

Spoiler:

Excellent... Also, I think I have the book or magazine with that train displayed in it. : D Apocalypse, right?

Kain wrote:

Pouncey wrote:Can they be model trains kitted out to look like they belong in the WH40k universe?

Grimdark Thomas the Tank engine...My god, someone convert this into being THIS INSTANT!

That seems like heresy. :: glares at suspiciously ::

ZebioLizard2 wrote:http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer/CHAOS_DWARFS/CHAOS-DWARF-IRON-DAEMON.html

Just to show that Grimdark trains have potential anywhere.

Excellent... :: tents fingers :: Also, I like how its front looks like a World of Warcraft crab monster-type thingy.


I asked mainly because a friend of mine who's had an AoBR set for over a year but hasn't used it yet, asked me a while back if there would be any conversion possibilities involving a gameboard and a functional miniature railroad set - basically theming the board around having a model railroad on it, and converting the train to be more 40k-ish, including adding guns to the train. I said yes, and that it was an awesome idea.

Another guy who spammed Vendettas and Vultures with an admittedly nicely painted Elysian army, seemed to rub in the fact that many armies couldn't touch his by playing "can't touch this" on his iPod for people to hear when his cover saves negated most of their shots. I was about to go up to him when the Ork neckbeard let me borrow three of his flakkadakka guns and told me to "wipe that smug grin off of his face" with them, and so I switched out from my usual tyranids for my Deffskullz army. We agreed to IA units since he was already using vultures, and he was expecting a easy win, until his vendettas were blasted out of the sky by the flakka guns and the men inside shot to pieces by lootas once deprived of their vendettas.

The vultures followed soon afterwards and then he started raging and ranting about how Orks shouldn't be able to be that accurate and raised such a commotion that the Manager was brought in, I asked him if the Flakkadakka gun would be able to ignore flat out movement saves, and he said "that's how the anti-aircraft rule should work in normal 40k" And the IG player reacted by smacking a dozen models off of the table, one of which hit another person in the cheek, and the manager told him to pack his stuff up and leave.

Kain wrote:Another guy who spammed Vendettas and Vultures with an admittedly nicely painted Elysian army, seemed to rub in the fact that many armies couldn't touch his by playing "can't touch this" on his iPod for people to hear when his cover saves negated most of their shots. I was about to go up to him when the Ork neckbeard let me borrow three of his flakkadakka guns and told me to "wipe that smug grin off of his face" with them, and so I switched out from my usual tyranids for my Deffskullz army. We agreed to IA units since he was already using vultures, and he was expecting a easy win, until his vendettas were blasted out of the sky by the flakka guns and the men inside shot to pieces by lootas once deprived of their vendettas.

The vultures followed soon afterwards and then he started raging and ranting about how Orks shouldn't be able to be that accurate and raised such a commotion that the Manager was brought in, I asked him if the Flakkadakka gun would be able to ignore flat out movement saves, and he said "that's how the anti-aircraft rule should work in normal 40k" And the IG player reacted by smacking a dozen models off of the table, one of which hit another person in the cheek, and the manager told him to pack his stuff up and leave.

How do you find these people? Is there an outbreak of dickery in South Africa when it comes to wargames?

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

Kain wrote:Another guy who spammed Vendettas and Vultures with an admittedly nicely painted Elysian army, seemed to rub in the fact that many armies couldn't touch his by playing "can't touch this" on his iPod for people to hear when his cover saves negated most of their shots. I was about to go up to him when the Ork neckbeard let me borrow three of his flakkadakka guns and told me to "wipe that smug grin off of his face" with them, and so I switched out from my usual tyranids for my Deffskullz army. We agreed to IA units since he was already using vultures, and he was expecting a easy win, until his vendettas were blasted out of the sky by the flakka guns and the men inside shot to pieces by lootas once deprived of their vendettas.

The vultures followed soon afterwards and then he started raging and ranting about how Orks shouldn't be able to be that accurate and raised such a commotion that the Manager was brought in, I asked him if the Flakkadakka gun would be able to ignore flat out movement saves, and he said "that's how the anti-aircraft rule should work in normal 40k" And the IG player reacted by smacking a dozen models off of the table, one of which hit another person in the cheek, and the manager told him to pack his stuff up and leave.

How do you find these people? Is there an outbreak of dickery in South Africa when it comes to wargames?

This guy and the guy before were in the states when I used to live there. He's not quite as bad as the guy who picks on kids, but "can't touch this" get's heinously annoying after the fiftieth time to say nothing of flipping out like that when a ruling is decided against you.

Kain wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

Kain wrote:Another guy who spammed Vendettas and Vultures with an admittedly nicely painted Elysian army, seemed to rub in the fact that many armies couldn't touch his by playing "can't touch this" on his iPod for people to hear when his cover saves negated most of their shots. I was about to go up to him when the Ork neckbeard let me borrow three of his flakkadakka guns and told me to "wipe that smug grin off of his face" with them, and so I switched out from my usual tyranids for my Deffskullz army. We agreed to IA units since he was already using vultures, and he was expecting a easy win, until his vendettas were blasted out of the sky by the flakka guns and the men inside shot to pieces by lootas once deprived of their vendettas.

The vultures followed soon afterwards and then he started raging and ranting about how Orks shouldn't be able to be that accurate and raised such a commotion that the Manager was brought in, I asked him if the Flakkadakka gun would be able to ignore flat out movement saves, and he said "that's how the anti-aircraft rule should work in normal 40k" And the IG player reacted by smacking a dozen models off of the table, one of which hit another person in the cheek, and the manager told him to pack his stuff up and leave.

How do you find these people? Is there an outbreak of dickery in South Africa when it comes to wargames?

This guy and the guy before were in the states when I used to live there. He's not quite as bad as the guy who picks on kids, but "can't touch this" get's heinously annoying after the fiftieth time.

Still...

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

Kain wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

Kain wrote:Another guy who spammed Vendettas and Vultures with an admittedly nicely painted Elysian army, seemed to rub in the fact that many armies couldn't touch his by playing "can't touch this" on his iPod for people to hear when his cover saves negated most of their shots. I was about to go up to him when the Ork neckbeard let me borrow three of his flakkadakka guns and told me to "wipe that smug grin off of his face" with them, and so I switched out from my usual tyranids for my Deffskullz army. We agreed to IA units since he was already using vultures, and he was expecting a easy win, until his vendettas were blasted out of the sky by the flakka guns and the men inside shot to pieces by lootas once deprived of their vendettas.

The vultures followed soon afterwards and then he started raging and ranting about how Orks shouldn't be able to be that accurate and raised such a commotion that the Manager was brought in, I asked him if the Flakkadakka gun would be able to ignore flat out movement saves, and he said "that's how the anti-aircraft rule should work in normal 40k" And the IG player reacted by smacking a dozen models off of the table, one of which hit another person in the cheek, and the manager told him to pack his stuff up and leave.

How do you find these people? Is there an outbreak of dickery in South Africa when it comes to wargames?

This guy and the guy before were in the states when I used to live there. He's not quite as bad as the guy who picks on kids, but "can't touch this" get's heinously annoying after the fiftieth time.

Still...

Yeah I'm rather glad to not see him ever again. At least his DKoK Tank spamming cousin is much more graceful with his victory streak, although half the time he was as silent and stoic as the Krieg itself.

The very worst sportsmanship I've ever seen since I started the hobby waaaaay back in 1997;

Toronto Grand Tournament, I think it was the 2001 event? Might have been 2000, but anyways.
This rather large, unwashed white guy on the 40k side of the event pulls out his 'Traitor Guard' army, and all his models are wearing white robes with pointy hoods and have three K's painted on them.
His opponent, who wasn't white, just looked on utterly shocked and you could see the anger rising as this complete tool just grined stupidly at him. Then this moron total hat actually has the audacity to tell his opponent, "hey look, my army is totally themed against you!" (along with a couple other words not allowed in any civilised conversation)

The GW staff at the event obviously told the racist jerk to pack up his crap and leave the event. They told him his name would be blacklisted so he would never be able to attend another GW run GT.

The next year saw another idiot who thought it would be a 'great idea' to model his IG army to look like an SS brigade, swatikas and all. A little imagination is all you need to figure out his 'theme' for his 'conscripts'.



Grown adults beating up on little kids is appauling and sickening to watch, but a part of me cries a bit inside when I see some racist smearing our hobby's image.

Experiment 626 wrote:
His opponent, who wasn't white, just looked on utterly shocked and you could see the anger rising as this complete tool just grined stupidly at him. Then this moron total hat actually has the audacity to tell his opponent, "hey look, my army is totally themed against you!" (along with a couple other words not allowed in any civilised conversation)


The next year saw another idiot who thought it would be a 'great idea' to model his IG army to look like an SS brigade, swatikas and all. A little imagination is all you need to figure out his 'theme' for his 'conscripts'..

Not gonna lie I LOL'd at work reading his comment "my army is themed against you." While crude it was pretty good.

While I wouldn't paint my army with SS or swastikas. I always wanted a DKoK Army painted like the German uniforms of WWII.

Experiment 626 wrote:The very worst sportsmanship I've ever seen since I started the hobby waaaaay back in 1997;

Toronto Grand Tournament, I think it was the 2001 event? Might have been 2000, but anyways.
This rather large, unwashed white guy on the 40k side of the event pulls out his 'Traitor Guard' army, and all his models are wearing white robes with pointy hoods and have three K's painted on them.
His opponent, who wasn't white, just looked on utterly shocked and you could see the anger rising as this complete tool just grined stupidly at him. Then this moron total hat actually has the audacity to tell his opponent, "hey look, my army is totally themed against you!" (along with a couple other words not allowed in any civilised conversation)

The GW staff at the event obviously told the racist jerk to pack up his crap and leave the event. They told him his name would be blacklisted so he would never be able to attend another GW run GT.

The next year saw another idiot who thought it would be a 'great idea' to model his IG army to look like an SS brigade, swatikas and all. A little imagination is all you need to figure out his 'theme' for his 'conscripts'.



Grown adults beating up on little kids is appauling and sickening to watch, but a part of me cries a bit inside when I see some racist smearing our hobby's image.

D: WHY DO PEOPLE ACT LIKE THIS?!

I want to cry. Seriously? A KKK themed army? A PoW and Concentration Camp based army? Dear lord, people don't care about actual historical truth anymore, do they?

Wow i go out for 2 hours and we add a new page to the thread as opposed to the post a day of the past week >> ah well

Pouncey wrote:[

:: nods :: Thanks.

It doesn't help that it was our first game since after the WD dex came out, and I'd been cackling - I mean that literally, as while describing how slaughterful they are, I would often burst into cackling laughter - around the house about how the DCAs were going to tear the Honor Guard apart in the few days prior to the game - in what little defense there is for me, when I say brutalizing, I mean marching across the field on foot while taking only 1-2 casualties, and then proceeding to kill unit after unit in one round of CC each.

My opponent in that game now plays Orks, and our last game was actually a draw with 0 objectives held by either side, and I didn't take Uriah or a Battle Conclave at all, but I did take Celestine, but only because I love the model and have had it since before the WD dex and had even used her frequently prior to its release.

Heh still forgivable As said least you know you did wrong *patpat* And in all honesty i do similar with a Niddy friend of mine. TBH i do it 'cus he says even Codex Marines are OP (he plays other wargames so *shrug* most things are off balance in comparison) where as i play GK (well established OP ). I dont use spam or auto-dreads, and we play fluff and fun anyway, but i still gloat and tease ("im sorry how many nids did ya just lose? really that many? hmmm seems im casualtyless still " for example.) But then i suppose its a limit to how much of an A**hat you can be to friends vs strangers.

Also dont believe em, hugs make the world go round =w= anythhing else is just herasy

Kain wrote:I noticed that guy was unusually muscular and fit for a 40k player, so I have a personal theory that he's a bully outside of the context of the game and indulges in a nerdy habit to pick on a hobby typically filled with the less than physically fit. And thus had a meltdown when someone stood up to him and won.

About above mentiond nid friend. Hes muscular, is shipping out to the army and does as far as i can tell every sport imaginable. And hes a freaking teddy bear

D: WHY DO PEOPLE ACT LIKE THIS?!

BlapBlapBlap wrote:
I want to cry. Seriously? A KKK themed army? A PoW and Concentration Camp based army? Dear lord, people don't care about actual historical truth anymore, do they?

its not all bad :( id love an inquisitor army of joke-ero and coteaz dressed as a zoo keeper or a pokemon trainer :(

Silentway wrote:

Kaldor wrote:

Basimpo wrote:Actually, what was going on is he thought i was a new person and he was hoping to bully someone into an easy victory. As evidenced by him quitting after he won an assault.

He thought you were going to be playing a tailored match, and you lied about it. You're lucky he didn't quit in the first turn.

I agree with Kaldor.

If it was me I wouldnt even have unpacked my army and just moved onto the next person. I don't ask people what army they are bringing to tailor mine to counter theres. I want to know just so I can prep my strategy and look up what are the highest value targets.

It was Vassal. There was no unpacking, it was pure tailoring. I stand by what I said.

Wait a minuite....Rojan's a confirmed donkey-cave? Crap and my first game on vassal was with him too...no wonder why he dragged out that rapetastic tourney level DKoK list on me after telling me we were going to have a friendly game.

Lol, you mean you didnt notice that each medusa he brought was shooting 12 ordnance barrage large blasts? lol!

Kain wrote:Wait a minuite....Rojan's a confirmed donkey-cave? Crap and my first game on vassal was with him too...no wonder why he dragged out that rapetastic tourney level DKoK list on me after telling me we were going to have a friendly game.

Yeah, he's one to avoid on there.

Basimpo wrote:Lol, you mean you didnt notice that each medusa he brought was shooting 12 ordnance barrage large blasts? lol!

Yeah I was getting rather suspicious when his artillery took thirty minutes to resolve all their shots...

lol yeah, turns out that THOSE artillery units are apoc units. The actual medusas hes supposed to use are not barrage at all. And all of them fire 1 shot. So 1 unit of three medusas fires 3 shots, not 3 apiece Also, he likes to randomly pick what source that the medusas come from Ive seen him use the IG dex meduas' with FW rules

Basimpo wrote:lol yeah, turns out that THOSE artillery units are apoc units. The actual medusas hes supposed to use are not barrage at all. And all of them fire 1 shot. So 1 unit of three medusas fires 3 shots, not 3 apiece Also, he likes to randomly pick what source that the medusas come from Ive seen him use the IG dex meduas' with FW rules

Sooner or later, someone will play him and find to their dismay, a Leman Russ turning out to be a Malcador or Macharius tank that then proceeds to laugh off their shots before blasting their army from here to the golden gakhouse.

Experiment 626 wrote:The very worst sportsmanship I've ever seen since I started the hobby waaaaay back in 1997;

Toronto Grand Tournament, I think it was the 2001 event? Might have been 2000, but anyways.
This rather large, unwashed white guy on the 40k side of the event pulls out his 'Traitor Guard' army, and all his models are wearing white robes with pointy hoods and have three K's painted on them.
His opponent, who wasn't white, just looked on utterly shocked and you could see the anger rising as this complete tool just grined stupidly at him. Then this moron total hat actually has the audacity to tell his opponent, "hey look, my army is totally themed against you!" (along with a couple other words not allowed in any civilised conversation)

The GW staff at the event obviously told the racist jerk to pack up his crap and leave the event. They told him his name would be blacklisted so he would never be able to attend another GW run GT.

The next year saw another idiot who thought it would be a 'great idea' to model his IG army to look like an SS brigade, swatikas and all. A little imagination is all you need to figure out his 'theme' for his 'conscripts'.



Grown adults beating up on little kids is appauling and sickening to watch, but a part of me cries a bit inside when I see some racist smearing our hobby's image.

What a waste of models just to go get someone mad and then get blacklisted because of it. I don't understand why people will deliberately get people angry because they (generally) will be looking to get you back in the near future. In my opinion, people say they want a world with peace and some of them turn around and do this.

In a capture opponents deployment type scenario at a tournament, my Wood Elves were playing Dwarves. He didn't move - except to go backward, tried to deny me my free forest, tried to cannon snipe and generally be a git.

It was a draw. I should have out-douched him by hiding and then rushing my fast cav into his deployment zone to contest. Oh well.

Phototoxin wrote:In a capture opponents deployment type scenario at a tournament, my Wood Elves were playing Dwarves. He didn't move - except to go backward, tried to deny me my free forest, tried to cannon snipe and generally be a git.

It was a draw. I should have out-douched him by hiding and then rushing my fast cav into his deployment zone to contest. Oh well.

What so he played like tau? thats not being a git, thats just good tactics.

Phototoxin wrote:In a capture opponents deployment type scenario at a tournament, my Wood Elves were playing Dwarves. He didn't move - except to go backward, tried to deny me my free forest, tried to cannon snipe and generally be a git.

It was a draw. I should have out-douched him by hiding and then rushing my fast cav into his deployment zone to contest. Oh well.

Let's see slow army against crazy fast army in a capture deployment type scenario. Multiple options:

Plod across the table and hope to get your stunties into the opposing zone to force a draw, or stay in your own deployment zone entirely and guarantee a draw? Exactly what is douchey about being tactically smart when facing an opponent that can run circles around you?

Skriker

And isn't that offtopic as that only fits in WHFB; while this is specifically a 40k thread; in any case?

I was laughing too at the "themed against you" comment though that doesn't mean I support racism.
Sadly it's something I think the human race will never be without, always hate for one reason or another will start conflicts and even wars.
The ww2 German army is something I probably could see myself doing as well, though maybe without the swastika. The German army still performed admirably on many battlefields so I don't think banning them outright if done with moderation is the right thing to do.

mitnal wrote:By the end of this turn he said he was going to smash my models, so this guy walks to my side of the board ( little did he know, at the time I was currently training for my first prof. MMA fight) So I proceeded to hip toss this guy on the floor and told him if he ever came near me that I was going to defend my self and call the cops, oh and he got banned from the store after that.

Ooh, look at you, Mr. Tough Guy, hip tossing kids. Out of all the dbags described in this thread, you're the most pathetic. Except, of course, you're probably making the whole thing up, which now that I think about it, still makes you the most pathetic.

Omegus wrote:

mitnal wrote:By the end of this turn he said he was going to smash my models, so this guy walks to my side of the board ( little did he know, at the time I was currently training for my first prof. MMA fight) So I proceeded to hip toss this guy on the floor and told him if he ever came near me that I was going to defend my self and call the cops, oh and he got banned from the store after that.

Ooh, look at you, Mr. Tough Guy, hip tossing kids. Out of all the dbags described in this thread, you're the most pathetic. Except, of course, you're probably making the whole thing up, which now that I think about it, still makes you the most pathetic.

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On a serious note, I doubt the number of fights breaking out over 40k is one tenth the claimed amount. People love to make up this crap because for whatever reason 90% of people on the internet believe everything they read.

I feel bad on Vassal... At school I have a very spotty connection, and I play Tau, so it always looks like I disconnect when I'm loosing, but its really just the network going down all the time.

Anyway, I haven't seen much that bad, beyond one time my usual opponent throwing a fit when his brand new Grey Knight army got slaughtered by my green tide- I rolled amazingly and he... didn't

e: grammar

A guy took out his bird and slapped it on the table after losing the GT in Kamloops.

40k gamers turn into wolverine's in heat during a tourney.

Shadowbrand wrote:A guy took out his bird and slapped it on the table after losing the GT in Kamloops.

40k gamers turn into wolverine's in heat during a tourney.

And a bird in this context is what exactly? Or do I not want to know?

Amaya wrote:I've got to ask, where the hell do you find these people? The absolute worst thing I've experienced are few rules lawyers, pouters, and a couple guys packing it up by turn 2 after getting into a hole they didn't think they could fight out of.

It's like the mugging of the gaming world. You hear about it happening, but it never really happens to you. Until it does.


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Kain wrote:

Shadowbrand wrote:A guy took out his bird and slapped it on the table after losing the GT in Kamloops.

40k gamers turn into wolverine's in heat during a tourney.

And a bird in this context is what exactly? Or do I not want to know?

I don't think I do.

AL-PiXeL01 wrote:I was laughing too at the "themed against you" comment though that doesn't mean I support racism.
Sadly it's something I think the human race will never be without, always hate for one reason or another will start conflicts and even wars.
The ww2 German army is something I probably could see myself doing as well, though maybe without the swastika. The German army still performed admirably on many battlefields so I don't think banning them outright if done with moderation is the right thing to do.

I don't think anyone with half a brain would ever get upset over seeing an IG army modeled as a histroical WWII German force, as long as the hatefull stuff, (ie those swastikas & SS markings), are left off. Heck, I think most GT's seem to have an IG army show up that's modeled in such a fashion, be it German, Russian, American, etc... Never heard of anyone getting banned just for doing a historical force that's tastefull and not preaching hate!

But I'll admit I wanted I to beat the living crap out of the racist idiot who modeled his conscripts as concentration camp prisoners.

Bird as in penis.

Shadowbrand wrote:Bird as in penis.

I have only one thing to say to that...really...that's all...



Good grief...why would you do that? Just...

Just...WHY!?!

Oh, my friend. Metallifan has told me -all- sorts of crazy gak that goes on down in that arid little desert.

The manager of the local shop is a old timer. Once a young 12-13 year old boy with a Ork army would scream "Waaaagh" everytime he charged. One day the old man had enough, took his warboss, -covered- it in gloss and set it on a fan to dry quickly then gave it back to him. I don't condone obnoxious children. But if some fether touched my models. I'd pull a Varg Vikernes on him.

In a second case, same old timer, a 40k gamer comes in scowling saying magic gamers broke a model of his because he wouldn't move. Guy goes in and takes a zippo to the -entire- deck.

Take 'em with a grain of salt, but if it's true it's a miracle this shop still stands.

In a non-wargaming related note, a ex-boyfriend of my mom tried to break in, and I chased him away naked *I was in the shower* I guess a guy naked yelling at the top of his lungs is still a legitimate tactic to ensue fear into your enemies.

Shadowbrand wrote:Oh, my friend. Metallifan has told me -all- sorts of crazy gak that goes on down in that arid little desert.

The manager of the local shop is a old timer. Once a young 12-13 year old boy with a Ork army would scream "Waaaagh" everytime he charged. One day the old man had enough, took his warboss, -covered- it in gloss and set it on a fan to dry quickly then gave it back to him. I don't condone obnoxious children. But if some fether touched my models. I'd pull a Varg Vikernes on him.

In a second case, same old timer, a 40k gamer comes in scowling saying magic gamers broke a model of his because he wouldn't move. Guy goes in and takes a zippo to the -entire- deck.

Take 'em with a grain of salt, but if it's true it's a miracle this shop still stands.

In a non-wargaming related note, a ex-boyfriend of my mom tried to break in, and I chased him away naked *I was in the shower* I guess a guy naked yelling at the top of his lungs is still a legitimate tactic to ensue fear into your enemies.

Wow. 0.0 How this man can behave this way, and manage to keep his shop above the water, is a mystery to me.

TermiesInARaider wrote:Wow. 0.0 How this man can behave this way, and manage to keep his shop above the water, is a mystery to me.

Not all FLGS are a "for profit" enterprise. Two of our three local stores are basically retirement/break even after work operations. Its nice that way, low pressure and relaxed atmosphere for everyone.

Lobukia wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:Wow. 0.0 How this man can behave this way, and manage to keep his shop above the water, is a mystery to me.

Not all FLGS are a "for profit" enterprise. Two of our three local stores are basically retirement/break even after work operations. Its nice that way, low pressure and relaxed atmosphere for everyone.

I'm sure places like that exist, but that man is clearly not relaxed.

Lobukia wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:Wow. 0.0 How this man can behave this way, and manage to keep his shop above the water, is a mystery to me.

Not all FLGS are a "for profit" enterprise. Two of our three local stores are basically retirement/break even after work operations. Its nice that way, low pressure and relaxed atmosphere for everyone.

Not this shop, clearly.

I played someone who took 4 venerable dreadnoughts (one was bjorn the fell handed) in a 1000 point SW list.

Igloo wrote:I played someone who took 4 venerable dreadnoughts (one was bjorn the fell handed) in a 100 point SW list.

0_0 100, or 1000? The latter is skeptical. The former is RIDICULOUS. No, definitely 1000. How do you play a 100 point game?

Quite carefully.

TermiesInARaider wrote:

Igloo wrote:I played someone who took 4 venerable dreadnoughts (one was bjorn the fell handed) in a 100 point SW list.

0_0 100, or 1000? The latter is skeptical. The former is RIDICULOUS. No, definitely 1000. How do you play a 100 point game?

5 Man Tactical Squad

Give Sergeant Combi Weapon

OR

Captain or Librarian or Chaplain, all plain.

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:

Igloo wrote:I played someone who took 4 venerable dreadnoughts (one was bjorn the fell handed) in a 100 point SW list.

0_0 100, or 1000? The latter is skeptical. The former is RIDICULOUS. No, definitely 1000. How do you play a 100 point game?

5 Man Tactical Squad

Give Sergeant Combi Weapon

OR

Captain or Librarian or Chaplain, all plain.

Right, right.

Anyways, OT, I'd still be highly skeptical of how anyone could fit 4 Ven Dreads, one of them being an IC, into a 1000 point list, without even looking at a codex.

TermiesInARaider wrote:

Igloo wrote:I played someone who took 4 venerable dreadnoughts (one was bjorn the fell handed) in a 100 point SW list.

0_0 100, or 1000? The latter is skeptical. The former is RIDICULOUS. No, definitely 1000. How do you play a 100 point game?

Quickly

3 ven dreads + bjorn = 765

2 troops of 5 grey hunters = 150

So its possible, but cant imagine its fun to face.

TermiesInARaider wrote:

Igloo wrote:I played someone who took 4 venerable dreadnoughts (one was bjorn the fell handed) in a 100 point SW list.

0_0 100, or 1000? The latter is skeptical. The former is RIDICULOUS. No, definitely 1000. How do you play a 100 point game?

Oops yea I meant 1000.


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dæl wrote:3 ven dreads + bjorn = 765

2 troops of 5 grey hunters = 150

So its possible, but cant imagine its fun to face.

No I can assure you, there are not enough Las Cannons in the world...
And unfortunatly I have to play this list quite often as this person is one of the only 40k players in my town.

No I can assure you, there are not enough Las Cannons in the world...

You could take 3 vindicators for half the cost of his dreads...
or maybe a MotF and 5 mm dreads in drop pods, with two 5 man tac squads @ 1000 (if you can't beat them out-cheese them )

edit: drop the pods and get yet another dread, 6 @1000pts would be funny just to see his face.

dæl wrote:3 ven dreads + bjorn = 765

2 troops of 5 grey hunters = 150

So its possible, but cant imagine its fun to face.

I'm not really familiar with SW dreads, but I can imagine that green tide orks would roflstomp that list.

Concentrate fire on the 2 grey hunters, remove his ability to claim objectives, then get PKs into the dreads (I usually run 4 minimum at 1000pts, more if I run a nobstar).

Back on topic, I find that bad sportsmanship isn't just limited to people when they loose, or the drastic cases.

There's a guy who hangs around the store, fairly decent guy. I'm fairly certain he's mentally deficient. Not saying that in an offensive way, but... You can tell, he's not entirely with it. He's a remarkable painter/modeler, he has his own scratch built Warlord Titan that is simply JAWDROPPING, but, as you could imagine for a mentally challenged person, he's not exactly the best at playing the game. He rarely wins, most often gets completely tabled. As you could also imagine, when he does win, it's a fairly big deal for him. So he makes a big deal out of it.

On the other hand, we get donkey-cave one-timers every day; people who come in for one game, make snide remarks, gloat if they win, rant a bit if they loose, and you never see them again.

Experiment 626 wrote:One of the local TFG's with his GK's vs a 12 year old Daemon player... 1st turn, TFG casts warp quake across the entire table with 3 full strike squads & 2 full interceptor squads, then tells the poor kid he needs to buy a real army not stop playing the crap army.

Once 6th editon hits and/or Daemons get a new codex, this moron had a debt to pay on behalf of my fellow daemon player!

Yeah. This is one of the reasons I make it a policy to throw the game if it's someone's first time. Not make it an easy game, but if it's someone's first time at the table, I try to make them win.

Of course, I play tyranids, so it's not all that difficult.

Kain wrote:

Basimpo wrote:Lol, you mean you didnt notice that each medusa he brought was shooting 12 ordnance barrage large blasts? lol!

Yeah I was getting rather suspicious when his artillery took thirty minutes to resolve all their shots...

the game bas is talking about was rojan vs me, i was playing 1750pts, rojan was playing 2200pts, you cant fit 220 normal guard and 7 medusa in the 1750 list

TermiesInARaider wrote:Back on topic, I find that bad sportsmanship isn't just limited to people when they loose, or the drastic cases.

There's a guy who hangs around the store, fairly decent guy. I'm fairly certain he's mentally deficient. Not saying that in an offensive way, but... You can tell, he's not entirely with it. He's a remarkable painter/modeler, he has his own scratch built Warlord Titan that is simply JAWDROPPING, but, as you could imagine for a mentally challenged person, he's not exactly the best at playing the game. He rarely wins, most often gets completely tabled. As you could also imagine, when he does win, it's a fairly big deal for him. So he makes a big deal out of it.

That doesn't sound like bad sportsmanship to me, but honest excitement. If he loses with equanimity and doesn't rant and rave I am not going to begrudge the guy some excitement when he actually does win a game.

Skriker

Skriker wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:Back on topic, I find that bad sportsmanship isn't just limited to people when they loose, or the drastic cases.

There's a guy who hangs around the store, fairly decent guy. I'm fairly certain he's mentally deficient. Not saying that in an offensive way, but... You can tell, he's not entirely with it. He's a remarkable painter/modeler, he has his own scratch built Warlord Titan that is simply JAWDROPPING, but, as you could imagine for a mentally challenged person, he's not exactly the best at playing the game. He rarely wins, most often gets completely tabled. As you could also imagine, when he does win, it's a fairly big deal for him. So he makes a big deal out of it.

That doesn't sound like bad sportsmanship to me, but honest excitement. If he loses with equanimity and doesn't rant and rave I am not going to begrudge the guy some excitement when he actually does win a game.

Skriker

Oops. I don't really think I made myself totally clear. When I say he makes a big deal out of it, I mean he starts talking smack. Which, for many of us, is totally acceptable, and often welcome. But a lot of the WAAC, table-top-games-are-serious-business folks, especially the one's who don't really know him, get pretty annoyed.

Mordiggian wrote:Yeah. This is one of the reasons I make it a policy to throw the game if it's someone's first time. Not make it an easy game, but if it's someone's first time at the table, I try to make them win.

Of course, I play tyranids, so it's not all that difficult.

I don't throw games against new players, but do support them and offer advice during the game to help them understand how their army works and how the rules work. I am also more lenient when they are totally new to mini-gaming and offer suggestions when they are making a very poor tactical decision and help them see why it would be more effective to do things a little differently. In those situations I have lost games where the new player picks up on things very quickly and adapts exceptionally well. It is hard to feel bad about a loss in those situations, though.

Skriker

Skriker wrote:

Mordiggian wrote:Yeah. This is one of the reasons I make it a policy to throw the game if it's someone's first time. Not make it an easy game, but if it's someone's first time at the table, I try to make them win.

Of course, I play tyranids, so it's not all that difficult.

I don't throw games against new players, but do support them and offer advice during the game to help them understand how their army works and how the rules work. I am also more lenient when they are totally new to mini-gaming and offer suggestions when they are making a very poor tactical decision and help them see why it would be more effective to do things a little differently. In those situations I have lost games where the new player picks up on things very quickly and adapts exceptionally well. It is hard to feel bad about a loss in those situations, though.

Skriker

This. I can only hope my first game is with a guy with that mentality. Bravo, you get my Nice Guy of the Day award.

TermiesInARaider wrote:This. I can only hope my first game is with a guy with that mentality. Bravo, you get my Nice Guy of the Day award.

Thanks!

Really don't understand the mentality of those who feel the need to be d-bags to completely new players. Of course we have created a monster in this way in our Flames of War League. Our youngest player is around 10. Last league we guided him through and taught him well and he actually placed 5th overall. Definitely not bad for his first league ever. Now as we are running our current LW league he is *leading* the league. Part of that is due to the fact that he is there EVERY Sunday league day, so gets in more games than all the adults who have other committments as well. Can't help feeling like a proud uncle though to see how far his game has come over the last year, though.

Skriker

Omegus wrote:

mitnal wrote:By the end of this turn he said he was going to smash my models, so this guy walks to my side of the board ( little did he know, at the time I was currently training for my first prof. MMA fight) So I proceeded to hip toss this guy on the floor and told him if he ever came near me that I was going to defend my self and call the cops, oh and he got banned from the store after that.

Ooh, look at you, Mr. Tough Guy, hip tossing kids. Out of all the dbags described in this thread, you're the most pathetic. Except, of course, you're probably making the whole thing up, which now that I think about it, still makes you the most pathetic.

This made me cry with laughter. It's by far the douchiest thing I've ever heard in my life. Brilliant.

I can't wait to start playing this game

Formosa wrote:

Kain wrote:

Basimpo wrote:Lol, you mean you didnt notice that each medusa he brought was shooting 12 ordnance barrage large blasts? lol!

Yeah I was getting rather suspicious when his artillery took thirty minutes to resolve all their shots...

the game bas is talking about was rojan vs me, i was playing 1750pts, rojan was playing 2200pts, you cant fit 220 normal guard and 7 medusa in the 1750 list

I've played a game against him where his medusas shot out 27 templates and he said "Oh it's just a DKoK special." I was tabled in two turns by all the S10 blasts.

Amaya wrote:

Omegus wrote:

mitnal wrote:By the end of this turn he said he was going to smash my models, so this guy walks to my side of the board ( little did he know, at the time I was currently training for my first prof. MMA fight) So I proceeded to hip toss this guy on the floor and told him if he ever came near me that I was going to defend my self and call the cops, oh and he got banned from the store after that.

Ooh, look at you, Mr. Tough Guy, hip tossing kids. Out of all the dbags described in this thread, you're the most pathetic. Except, of course, you're probably making the whole thing up, which now that I think about it, still makes you the most pathetic.

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On a serious note, I doubt the number of fights breaking out over 40k is one tenth the claimed amount. People love to make up this crap because for whatever reason 90% of people on the internet believe everything they read.

Omegus' comment was hilarious and spot on.

@Amaya I agree

Kain wrote:

Formosa wrote:

Kain wrote:

Basimpo wrote:Lol, you mean you didnt notice that each medusa he brought was shooting 12 ordnance barrage large blasts? lol!

Yeah I was getting rather suspicious when his artillery took thirty minutes to resolve all their shots...

the game bas is talking about was rojan vs me, i was playing 1750pts, rojan was playing 2200pts, you cant fit 220 normal guard and 7 medusa in the 1750 list

I've played a game against him where his medusas shot out 27 templates and he said "Oh it's just a DKoK special." I was tabled in two turns by all the S10 blasts.

If another Dkok player had a game against him i wonder what would happen. Would Rojan run away or would the other Player shell out just as many shots. and my guess as since the other player knows his rules he will probaby be a better tactician. But still it make you think what some people have come to in order to win.

Not sure how well this applies, but here's two.

Over a year ago, I was working on a Guard army as my group was complaining too much about my Necrons. Even after telling them how to obliterate my army, they just kept ignoring the Warriors and Destroyers and pour everything into the Monoliths. Didn't do anything for them. So, for my birthday, me and a few friends decided to do a 2 vs 2 game. Chaos & Guard vs Space Wolves and Orks. Game ends at the end of turn 3, when my Chimera fires and Njarl and deals two wounds. My friend then proceeds to roll double 1s and everything goes silent. We've known this friend to throw fits and go off in the past before when things went bad for him, but not this time. He ended up pulling out a knife and just glared at my Chimera. Me and a friend were both getting ready to bolt out the garage and run down the street til he put the knife back up. There are reasons I(and a good deal of my group) don't game with him anymore.

The only other one I can think of is another game with Space Wolves player some months before. Bottom of turn 2 and it's my turn. All my fallen Necrons get back up with help with the Res. Orb. My friend has two squads within charge range of my Warriors, so I use the Monolith to pull them back and out of threat range. He then goes off calling me a retreating coward for teleporting my Warriors away from danger. I ignore it, and open up with my two squads of Destroyers, causing heavy casualties for him. He then proceeds to quit the game, complaining how he can never win. Complaining that Necrons are cheap, they have a chance of getting back up, don't stay dead, too over powered. Then goes to explain that he went off like that because he hadn't ate that morning...

redkeyboard wrote:

Kain wrote:

Formosa wrote:

Kain wrote:

Basimpo wrote:Lol, you mean you didnt notice that each medusa he brought was shooting 12 ordnance barrage large blasts? lol!

Yeah I was getting rather suspicious when his artillery took thirty minutes to resolve all their shots...

the game bas is talking about was rojan vs me, i was playing 1750pts, rojan was playing 2200pts, you cant fit 220 normal guard and 7 medusa in the 1750 list

I've played a game against him where his medusas shot out 27 templates and he said "Oh it's just a DKoK special." I was tabled in two turns by all the S10 blasts.

If another Dkok player had a game against him i wonder what would happen. Would Rojan run away or would the other Player shell out just as many shots. and my guess as since the other player knows his rules he will probaby be a better tactician. But still it make you think what some people have come to in order to win.

Nah, he'd just throw in his AV14/13/12 Contemptor dreads with venerable rules and 2d6 shot deathstorm drop pods. :V

redkeyboard wrote:

Kain wrote:

Formosa wrote:

Kain wrote:

Basimpo wrote:Lol, you mean you didnt notice that each medusa he brought was shooting 12 ordnance barrage large blasts? lol!

Yeah I was getting rather suspicious when his artillery took thirty minutes to resolve all their shots...

the game bas is talking about was rojan vs me, i was playing 1750pts, rojan was playing 2200pts, you cant fit 220 normal guard and 7 medusa in the 1750 list

I've played a game against him where his medusas shot out 27 templates and he said "Oh it's just a DKoK special." I was tabled in two turns by all the S10 blasts.

If another Dkok player had a game against him i wonder what would happen. Would Rojan run away or would the other Player shell out just as many shots. and my guess as since the other player knows his rules he will probaby be a better tactician. But still it make you think what some people have come to in order to win.

I suspect he would take a Phantom titan and say it was a Myrmea (sp?) special unit.

I played against Mercer at Warhammer world, and after I crushed him, he rammed his hand up my wifes skirt, and hammered two nails into my car tyres.

........


I had plenty to drink though, so I might have dreamed it.

Skriker wrote:

Mordiggian wrote:Yeah. This is one of the reasons I make it a policy to throw the game if it's someone's first time. Not make it an easy game, but if it's someone's first time at the table, I try to make them win.

Of course, I play tyranids, so it's not all that difficult.

I don't throw games against new players, but do support them and offer advice during the game to help them understand how their army works and how the rules work. I am also more lenient when they are totally new to mini-gaming and offer suggestions when they are making a very poor tactical decision and help them see why it would be more effective to do things a little differently. In those situations I have lost games where the new player picks up on things very quickly and adapts exceptionally well. It is hard to feel bad about a loss in those situations, though.

Skriker

im a real scumbag. Against new players I pull my hardest list, usually night lords or raven guard, and trash em as efficiently as possible. On the upside I then go through what happened after the game give em advice on their list, show what they could have done and give them helpful hints during their next game with someone else. Oh and I buy them a coffee and a biscuit

Shadowbrand wrote:Bird as in penis.

Can't resist-

So the thunder hammer is his penis?

BTNeophyte wrote:

Shadowbrand wrote:Bird as in penis.

Can't resist-

So the thunder hammer is his penis?

I can't either - we need more of these guys.

Any temporary embarrassment/discomfort inflicted on the other parties (and jyeah, ya think?) is MORE than offset by the service he's providing by dispelling the typical miniature hobbyist nerd stereotype! (playing around tonight...)