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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/02 11:44:08


Post by: Ciaphas


Hi all.
I am putting together a Company of imperial guard, which will include some female figures. I know that most imperial guard regiments are same sex but there are some notable mixed regiments such as the ones in the Ciaphas Cain novels.

I am basing my troops on 3rd company, Vahallan 79th Rapid Response Regiment. This Regiment is trained to deploy in any enviroment and fight any foe at short notice.
They wear the standard uniform of imperial guard because I dont like the idea of Valhallans wearing heavy clothing in every operation. In fact again in the Ciaphas Cain novels they wear light fatigues in warmer weather.

The main thrust of my focus is to produce troops in a realistic Camo pattern uniform.
I decided not to follow the white number system as white symbols all over them and white eagles, seem a bit at odds with camo/futuristic military forces.
Instead I have followed military practise of DZ like flashes to the left shoulde and subdued all other insignia.
The triangle represents 3rd company and squads coloured 1st - Red, 2nd - Blue, 3rd - Green etc.
3 squads = a platoon.
3 platoon = a company.
plus HQ and support Platoons.

The Flashes I have made slightly bigger than they would be, for ease of play.
Pics to follow.




Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/02 12:53:15


Post by: Ciaphas


Ok so here's the scheme ive settled on.



Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/02 12:58:02


Post by: Ciaphas


With unit insignia. sorry about the phote quality its on my phone.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/02 13:06:44


Post by: SpankHammer III


Hey

Looking good, like the camo and the blue eyes (nice touch). Interested to see the flashes.

You found a source of female IG?

Spank



Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/02 13:07:28


Post by: CadianXV


Excellent camo scheme paintjob.
I'd like to make 2 main points:
1) Depending on the amount of troops you're going for, painting all the eyes will drive you insane. That said, you've done a good job of it.
2) Unless you're transferring them to pre-painted bases, it may be a good idea to flock them before giving them such a good paintjob.

Looking forward to seeing where this goes.



Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/02 13:08:35


Post by: riverhawks32


They are really nice looking! Love the paint job...Later on on like banners and such may want to paint vahallan 79th though otherwise I guarantee people will think they are cadians.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/02 13:56:36


Post by: Ciaphas


SpankHammer III wrote:Hey

Looking good, like the camo and the blue eyes (nice touch). Interested to see the flashes.

You found a source of female IG?

Spank



Thanks mate, Im making my own. im using Hasslefree lady soldiers as a base and ripping them apart and buliding them back up again. Will post pics soon.


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CadianXV wrote:Excellent camo scheme paintjob.
I'd like to make 2 main points:
1) Depending on the amount of troops you're going for, painting all the eyes will drive you insane. That said, you've done a good job of it.
2) Unless you're transferring them to pre-painted bases, it may be a good idea to flock them before giving them such a good paintjob.

Looking forward to seeing where this goes.



Lol, I know what you mean about eyes but I cant not do it. Its a curse in a way and yeah Im putting them on resin bases.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/02 13:59:27


Post by: SpankHammer III


Look forward to seeing it.

have often thought about doing a squad of female IG.

Consider me subscribed.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/02 14:01:45


Post by: Ciaphas


riverhawks32 wrote:They are really nice looking! Love the paint job...Later on on like banners and such may want to paint vahallan 79th though otherwise I guarantee people will think they are cadians.


Thx I know what you mean and I will have to Valhalla them in some way, but unless you stick with limited metal ranges you just cant get enough variety and Cadia seems to be the uniform of the IG, plus plastic is so easy to convert.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/03 11:47:47


Post by: Ciaphas


So now that im happy with the company fluff, and paint schemes etc time to tackle the women troopers. I am doing a squad first (10 figs) but i would normally distribute them throughout the company. (mixed Squads).
After much research and having looked at all the options I have settled on 10 hasslefree lady soldiers minutres. This is because:

1. I do not want my troopers to like like drag queens by changing heads.

2. I served in the Parachute Regiment and I have seen many female soldiers.(Obviously not in the Paras) but attached and corp personell etc. One thing that amazes me is the number of people on here who say you cant realyl tell the difference when kitted up. You most definatly CAN.

Women ave boot size 5-6. Men 9 - 10
Ave height 5 ft 2in. men 5 ft 10.
Shoulders much much narrower.
Hands far smaller and head size far smaller.
Chest and Im talking back width here, 36, men 40 plus. (Remember the womens includes the bust.)

And if thats not enough, armies are generally tight when issuing kit. They tend to produce universal fitted equipment, so some kit looks a bit bulky on a female frame. Helmets seem to look too big for instance because females generally have slimmer faces, chins, cheekbones etc. Guns look bigger in smaller hands etc.

Now some people will say " yeah but in aliens that women looked bigger etc". Remember she was with actors not soldiers. Simply put if you get a female soldier in full combat kit with a squad of men dressed the same you can tell.

So thats what Im aiming to do.And its my personel view, I dont want drag queens or big breasted barmaids, I want professional looking soldiers, albeit femle.

The minitures arrived and I must say they are fine castings. One critisim is they nearly all have sunglasses on, but apart from that they are just what im looking for.

First off I started by cutting back the helmet to leave only the face. (Not easy I can tell you.) I also cut off weapons and the odd arm that was not in the position required.













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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/03 12:05:55


Post by: Ciaphas


Then I began hollowing out guard helmets (another Bsa£$£" of a Job).
Then I cut shoulder pads from spare arms etc. ( You guessed it another .......)

I then paused and wondered if it was worth it.

Now I assembled the ROUGHS, these are minis I am getting a feel for.


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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/03 12:14:01


Post by: Ciaphas


I started to add Kit, Backpaks etc.
I like the look and feel they look like I think female soldiers look.

heres some comparasion pics.








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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/03 12:58:58


Post by: alabamaheretic


looks good dude keep it up. and also serving in the military i know what you mean. I served in a mixed company and you are right about all the points you made about female soldiers. I'd like to see more of this project take shape so keep it up and post more progress


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/03 13:31:47


Post by: Ciaphas


alabamaheretic wrote:looks good dude keep it up. and also serving in the military i know what you mean. I served in a mixed company and you are right about all the points you made about female soldiers. I'd like to see more of this project take shape so keep it up and post more progress


Thanks Alabama, to be honest ive given up waiting for GW to make females.
Next up some specialists, Sarge, Grenadier, Flamer and. Vox.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/03 13:45:31


Post by: Briancj


Beautiful work!

But, seeing as you're doing a lot of cutting, and don't want the sunglasses... Consider removing the heads entirely, and replacing them with:

http://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/miniatures/hasslefree-miniatures/bits/human-female-heads-a-sprue-of-5.html

I think that's going to save you a LOT of time.

--Brian (Sub-SCRIBED!)



Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/03 14:03:06


Post by: murdog


Wow looking good. You are ambitous sir! Camo looks awesome.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/03 14:26:47


Post by: SpankHammer III


Looking good man, be interested to see what they look like when you've pained them.

I like you points and agree, i've never served in the military so can't say if your right but if female models are identical to the male ones what the point in having them. Might as well use cadians and say they are ugly woman.

Not that i'm a fan of people who go too far the other way either, not having a go but not my taste, with commissar in suspenders and corsets.




Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/04 16:07:59


Post by: Ciaphas


Briancj wrote:Beautiful work!

But, seeing as you're doing a lot of cutting, and don't want the sunglasses... Consider removing the heads entirely, and replacing them with:

http://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/miniatures/hasslefree-miniatures/bits/human-female-heads-a-sprue-of-5.html

I think that's going to save you a LOT of time.

--Brian (Sub-SCRIBED!)



Thx brian, Great minds think alike. Already ordered when i researched what was available. The arrived today!!


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murdog wrote:Wow looking good. You are ambitous sir! Camo looks awesome.


Thx Murdog, I think Guard looks good in Camo.


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SpankHammer III wrote:Looking good man, be interested to see what they look like when you've pained them.

I like you points and agree, i've never served in the military so can't say if your right but if female models are identical to the male ones what the point in having them. Might as well use cadians and say they are ugly woman.

Not that i'm a fan of people who go too far the other way either, not having a go but not my taste, with commissar in suspenders and corsets.




Thx Spankhammer,

I think its important to go with what feels good to you. A Commissar is suspenders my look good, but not quite right in a battle situation!! Getting the balance is tricky though. The way women stand, walk etc its all subtly different and the human eye is pre programed to recognise these dfferences and make instant assumptions.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/04 17:10:55


Post by: Ciaphas


Ok, So first up is the Vox trooper. The helmat was a real challage but i think it looks better being and original rather than a scratch.
I think her pose is just about right.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/04 17:29:21


Post by: Veteran Sergeant


Nice work. I picked up Hasslefree's Mackenzie to see about making a test figure for my (eventually) rebooted IGuard army, but she's just absolutely tiny, lol.

Which is probably realistic as you mentioned, but I can't help but think she will look ludicrous with GW scale weaponry in her hands. I wonder if you won't have better luck using one of the templates for the cut down carbine-sized las rifles. If they look gigantic in the hands of the male troopers, they look a little cartoonish with the Hasslefree females.

Still, I like your idea of using the Hasslefree figs. Ultimately, as cool as they are, using any of those torso kits out there liek Shadowforge's, with GW legs and arms will result in some really beefy looking females, lol.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/04 20:28:19


Post by: Ciaphas


Veteran Sergeant wrote:Nice work. I picked up Hasslefree's Mackenzie to see about making a test figure for my (eventually) rebooted IGuard army, but she's just absolutely tiny, lol.

Which is probably realistic as you mentioned, but I can't help but think she will look ludicrous with GW scale weaponry in her hands. I wonder if you won't have better luck using one of the templates for the cut down carbine-sized las rifles. If they look gigantic in the hands of the male troopers, they look a little cartoonish with the Hasslefree females.

Still, I like your idea of using the Hasslefree figs. Ultimately, as cool as they are, using any of those torso kits out there liek Shadowforge's, with GW legs and arms will result in some really beefy looking females, lol.


Thx vetran

I know what you mean about some of the figs available they are tiny.
What I've done is add to the arms a touch and broaden the shoulders with the pads backpacks etc.
I really like the size now. As for the weapons 40k is a bit comical with size anyway and I was keen to use
Original kit as much as possible. I cut down some of the shoulder pads and bits here and there plus I've left the bayonets off.
If you take an average troopers las rifle its massive even for them and I thought of carbines but I did not want them
To look like cut down rifles because I figured that would detract from
The look of the female figure. Ie if you make the kit smaller and fit it to a smaller frame
you get a small miniature. Is it a male or female or is it just small figure.

Now when it comes to support weapons they are big but i like the look. As far as I'm aware no army
I can think of has ever made weapons just for females. So the girls gotta man up.

I personally think that standard weapons work better than trying to scale them.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/05 06:09:09


Post by: Ciaphas


Here's the Sarge.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/05 08:05:18


Post by: FantasyBob


The idea looks good, but the helmet (IMO) it's a little big for her!
Why don't you try to sculpt one!?


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/05 15:37:10


Post by: Ciaphas


FantasyBob wrote:The idea looks good, but the helmet (IMO) it's a little big for her!
Why don't you try to sculpt one!?


Thx Fantasy,
Her helmet strap is undone and this makes a big difference.
I like the scale and as I've already said if I downsize kit they will just look like smaller soldiers.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/05 15:42:54


Post by: Ciaphas


All weapons drilled and battle damage added.
OK so here's the flamer.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/05 15:46:51


Post by: Ciaphas


No jokes about women holding big weapons etc.
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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/05 15:49:05


Post by: Ciaphas


Grenadier.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/05 15:51:27


Post by: Ciaphas


Trooper.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/05 23:42:01


Post by: Ciaphas


More toopers.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/05 23:45:16


Post by: Elezaar


Beautiful! I love that you're actually going out and building women. I have most of the random IG women in my armies, but I have never had the courage to convert. Love the camo as well. Great job


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/05 23:51:42


Post by: Ciaphas


Elezaar wrote:Beautiful! I love that you're actually going out and building women. I have most of the random IG women in my armies, but I have never had the courage to convert. Love the camo as well. Great job

Thx Elazaar, you should just go for it. Its the only way we will get them. Lol.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/06 16:13:31


Post by: Ciaphas


Here come the girls.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/06 18:49:43


Post by: Veteran Sergeant


Ciaphas wrote:Now when it comes to support weapons they are big but i like the look. As far as I'm aware no army
I can think of has ever made weapons just for females. So the girls gotta man up.
Nah. We just do the sensible thing and leave them out of the infantry.

Of course, M-16s are relatively light and wieldable compared to 40K's monstrous lasguns. Not a criticism by any means obviously. I like what you've done with them. The more realistic scale of the Hasslefree figs really just accentuates the heroic scale weapons of 40K.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/06 22:31:43


Post by: Ciaphas


Veteran Sergeant wrote:
Ciaphas wrote:Now when it comes to support weapons they are big but i like the look. As far as I'm aware no army
I can think of has ever made weapons just for females. So the girls gotta man up.
Nah. We just do the sensible thing and leave them out of the infantry.

Of course, M-16s are relatively light and wieldable compared to 40K's monstrous lasguns. Not a criticism by any means obviously. l really like what you've done with them. The more realistic scale of the Hasslefree figs really just accentuates the heroic scale weapons of 40K.


We still keep them out of the infantry at the moment but in 38000 yeas time...lol.
But your right hassle free make a lovely fig where as 40 k tend to be a bit bulky. But I'm pleased with the overall effect.
Better than heads on troopers.!!


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/06 23:28:17


Post by: loota boy


I think it's cool what you are doing, but i can't help but chuckle at the girls with the flamers and grenade launchers... Can't imagine what they would look like with bigger weapons like missile launchers or deffgunz.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/06 23:42:28


Post by: alabamaheretic


actually the weapons on the smaller figures that are female do make it realistic so the comical "big guns" are very right. good job keep it up. love to see some paint on these ladies.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/07 02:00:03


Post by: Ciaphas


loota boy wrote:I think it's cool what you are doing, but i can't help but chuckle at the girls with the flamers and grenade launchers... Can't imagine what they would look like with bigger weapons like missile launchers or deffgunz.[/qu:
s like missile launchers or deffgunz.


I will have to try them out! Lol.
Mind you GW do have some giant weaponry in all its forces.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/07 02:09:49


Post by: Ciaphas


alabamaheretic wrote:actually the weapons on the smaller figures that are female do make it realistic so the comical "big guns" are very right. good job keep it up. love to see some paint on these ladies.

Thx Alabsma , just under coated them and now ready to paint.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/05/14 11:36:12


Post by: Ciaphas


Just recieved a load of kit from maximini. Miniguns, snipers rifles, backpacks etc. So I can add some female snipers to the company.
Post pics of painted ladies soon. (that dont sound right).


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/05 13:17:43


Post by: Ciaphas


OK lots of work and commitments slowed me down but here are 1st and 3rd squad of the 3rd company. 3rd squad is all female.
Here is the sarge of 1st squad.



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Vox.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/05 13:27:30


Post by: Ciaphas


Specialists of 1st squad.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/05 13:35:25


Post by: Ciaphas


Troopers.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/05 13:44:48


Post by: Ciaphas


Squad.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/05 17:49:30


Post by: alabamaheretic


wow those are some fantastic minis how did you get the five o clock shadow on the sgt?


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/06 00:19:53


Post by: Ciaphas


Thx Alabama.
Once the face was finished.
I lightly stippled the beard area with chaos black.
Then lightly washed beard area with reikland flesh.
I then spot wash with badab black to deepen creases etc.
Finish by high lighting any raised areas with flesh of choice.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/06 00:24:22


Post by: Ciaphas


3rd squad. Female.
Sarge.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/06 01:28:50


Post by: Briancj


YES. This is what female guards..men.. should look like!

SPOT ON!


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/06 07:35:25


Post by: Ciaphas


Briancj wrote:YES. This is what female guards..men.. should look like!


SPOT ON!


Thx Briancj,
Its how I see them to.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/06 07:38:37


Post by: Ciaphas


Vox, 3rd squad. Female.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/06 12:51:55


Post by: alabamaheretic


so its just light stippling and flesh eh? sounds easy enough. those are spot on man.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/06 15:50:06


Post by: Ciaphas


Specialists.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/06 21:34:26


Post by: Ciaphas


Troopers.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/07 06:34:47


Post by: 02Laney


Excellent work on the males and the females - love the camo and the size of the female models works really well (even with the over large cadian weapons - I wonder how they would match up with Death Korp or Elysian weapons).

Very impressed - keep it up!

Laney


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/07 08:44:03


Post by: Ciaphas


02Laney wrote:Excellent work on the males and the females - love the camo and the size of the female models works really well (even with the over large cadian weapons - I wonder how they would match up with Death Korp or Elysian weapons).

Very impressed - keep it up!

Laney


Thx Laney.

I think the female frame would get lost with death korps. But with Elysian they would probably be very well suited, even more so than the regular guard.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/07 15:15:47


Post by: Ciaphas


Troopers.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/07 23:13:47


Post by: Ciaphas


Troopers

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/08 07:38:38


Post by: Ciaphas


Troopers.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/08 07:49:36


Post by: killykavekommando


Great job keeping the minis realistic (besides huge guns) and not OTT like some other femguard. 8/10!


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/08 08:12:47


Post by: Wazzdig Dagga


Really really impressive conversions. These are easily the best female guard ever seen. Spot on.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/08 10:29:38


Post by: c9805222


Loving your work. Keep it going (subbed)


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/08 19:23:50


Post by: Ciaphas


killykavekommando wrote:Great job keeping the minis realistic (besides huge guns) and not OTT like some other femguard. 8/10!

Thx, keeping them realistic was important. All my stuff is as realistic as I can make it.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/08 21:14:40


Post by: killykavekommando


Ciaphas wrote:
killykavekommando wrote:Great job keeping the minis realistic (besides huge guns) and not OTT like some other femguard. 8/10!

Thx, keeping them realistic was important. All my stuff is as realistic as I can make it.

You did a great job at that, too. Crank some more out soon!


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/09 06:30:38


Post by: Ciaphas


Wazzdig Dagga wrote:Really really impressive conversions. These are easily the best female guard ever seen. Spot on.


Thx wazdig. I appreciate that.


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c9805222 wrote:Loving your work. Keep it going (subbed)


Thx C9. More yo come. I'm working on some beret troopers to integrate into the company.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/09 16:59:45


Post by: Ciaphas


Just shading the camo

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/09 17:14:30


Post by: alabamaheretic


Man your current update looks like some SAS dudes where did you get all of the beret heads? catachan box or a third party source.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/09 19:44:32


Post by: Ciaphas


alabamaheretic wrote:Man your current update looks like some SAS dudes where did you get all of the beret heads? catachan box or a third party source.


That's the look I was aiming for, thx. I'm aiming to put three in each squad with maroon berets. The the flag will be maroon aka British airborne. Its part of there fluff being a Rapid Response Regiment. First in and hold at all costs!

Berets were from http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/index.php?cPath=126_149 they are para berets.
Backpacks were from maxi mini (awesome company). I'll have to do some female ones but I'll sculpt those onto hassle free heads.
And use hassle free ladies again.


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Hint, if you use them make sure you trim the neck down and drill a nice big hole so they sit on the collar or they look a bit necky. and you get 20 heads for £4 !!!!!.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/09 19:56:20


Post by: alabamaheretic


hmmm interesting, now only if my gs fu was awesome i would make female orlocks for my gang!
when i get some more gs i think i might do that.
now to find a place that sells a ton of gs for relatively cheap...


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/10 00:32:59


Post by: Briancj


I must admit, the Hasslefree Female "Troopers" look pretty good as well. UNFORTUNATELY, two of the four are in cheesecake poses, and, because they're metal, almost impossible to modify. Oh. Well.



Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/10 06:12:10


Post by: Ciaphas


Briancj wrote:I must admit, the Hasslefree Female "Troopers" look pretty good as well. UNFORTUNATELY, two of the four are in cheesecake poses, and, because they're metal, almost impossible to modify. Oh. Well.



The only one that's hard to mod is the standing one with hand on hip. As for cheesecake, well some cheesecake has its place, I call it female, they are women after all, and I like females. I didn't just want butch, hard faced girls, like I didn't just want soft girlie girls. I wanted a mix and I think the poses with some work do just that. This figure was the hardest to modify, so just guns, head angle etc

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/10 06:16:16


Post by: Ciaphas


This is the same figure.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/10 06:19:07


Post by: Ciaphas


This is also the same figure.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/10 06:23:14


Post by: Ciaphas


And finally these are also the same. So with a bit of imagination and work you get quite a variety.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/06/10 06:56:17


Post by: killykavekommando


Great conversions!


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/07/03 15:40:50


Post by: Ciaphas


Update on 3rd platoon. All three sections now finished. The beret troopers really give them a rapid response look. Like modern air mobile troops. Again all badges and insignia subdued. Next up is command section and support section.

Here's the sarge..

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/07/03 15:51:26


Post by: alabamaheretic


good job on the carg looks mighty fine.

if you got the time think we could have a run down of the camo pattern?


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/07/03 16:55:23


Post by: Ciaphas


No problem. Its time consuming but I like the result.
First off black undercoat.
Then paint uniform in iyandun sun.
Apply patches randomly of catachan green.
A good wash with gryphone sepia.
A wash with 50/50 badab black and water.
Then highlight the yellow areas with desert yellow leaving and edge all round.
Do the same with the green areas with catachan.

Then wash again with gryphonne sepia and the watered badab.
Then highlight again as above.

Then mix the desert yellow with bleached bone and highlight to desired level.
Mix the catachan with camo green and do the same.

Make sure to leave the edges blended dark for definition.
Long winded but worth it.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/07/03 16:56:33


Post by: evildrcheese


Excellent stuff in here. Your camo scheme is excellent, it really does look fantastic.

I'm a big fan of the Female Guard as too., a great looking unit.

D


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/07/03 16:56:40


Post by: alabamaheretic


that is really good looking though so i think all that extra effort is worth it.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/07/03 18:56:48


Post by: Ciaphas


evildrcheese wrote:Excellent stuff in here. Your camo scheme is excellent, it really does look fantastic.

I'm a big fan of the Female Guard as too., a great looking unit.

D


Thanks evil,
Im slow but then again the figures are forever. These days there seems to be such a rush to painting that I think people forget that once a unit is finished then its yours for good. I'm really pleased the way the female guard turned out and plan to add some more in the future.



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alabamaheretic wrote:that is really good looking though so i think all that extra effort is worth it.


I think.it is mate and like I said they are yours for ever.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/07/03 19:05:18


Post by: Ciaphas


Here's the comparisons pics between the 3 sections.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/07/03 19:06:34


Post by: alabamaheretic


yea that extra time on the paint really makes it up in spades keep it up and good going


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/07/04 11:18:20


Post by: Ciaphas


Converted runners.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/07/23 16:40:50


Post by: Ciaphas


Update on the 79th.
Working on the platoon command. I've gone for seven figs. I've put some bionics on a couple to vetranize them and a couple of berets. Undercoated and ready to paint.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/08/08 14:13:42


Post by: Ciaphas


I'm going for black and red dress uniforms mixed with armour for the command group. The red is trimmed on the uniforms and off course they have red berets and flag.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/08/08 16:56:21


Post by: Highelf04


What models from hasslefree miniatures did you use to make your female soldiers bodies?
Loving the conversions all together!


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/08/08 19:14:51


Post by: evildrcheese


The command squad is looking great.

Red flag. FTW.

D


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/08/09 00:58:44


Post by: Ciaphas


Highelf04 wrote:What models from hasslefree miniatures did you use to make your female soldiers bodies?
Loving the conversions all together!

Thx. They are called hassle free lady soldiers.


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evildrcheese wrote:The command squad is looking great.

Red flag. FTW.

D

Yeah the red maroon theme I'm running through the whole rapid response idea. Berets, dress uniforms, etc. I think it adds elitism to the unit.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/08/12 14:00:33


Post by: evildrcheese


Out of interest what recipe are you using for the maroon?

D


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/08/12 17:01:25


Post by: GiraffeX


Your Guard both male and female look excellent.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/08/12 17:27:35


Post by: Ciaphas


evildrcheese wrote:Out of interest what recipe are you using for the maroon?

D


Just simple old mecrite red with a badab wash then mecrite high lite. It just looked right.


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GiraffeX wrote:Your Guard both male and female look excellent.

Thx gx I appreciate that.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/08/13 06:41:34


Post by: Rogue Wolves


I really love your paint scheme! And these might be the best female IG I've seen!


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/08/13 09:51:14


Post by: Ciaphas


Rogue Wolves wrote:I really love your paint scheme! And these might be the best female IG I've seen!

Wow thx for that rogue. I've got plans for more females some with berets and I'm going to inter grate them with the vehical crews and the hvy weapons, snipers etc.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/08/13 10:01:31


Post by: MetalOxide


They are awesome female IG and very realistic, not overly sexed up but you can still tell they are women... work of a genius!

Definitely subscribing!


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/08/13 12:04:11


Post by: Ciaphas


MetalOxide wrote:They are awesome female IG and very realistic, not overly sexed up but you can still tell they are women... work of a genius!

Definitely subscribing!

Thx metal. I was keen not to sex them up or barmaid them but still make them look like women.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/08/13 17:24:43


Post by: evildrcheese


Ciaphas wrote:
evildrcheese wrote:Out of interest what recipe are you using for the maroon?

D


Just simple old mecrite red with a badab wash then mecrite high lite. It just looked right.



Awesome, I always tend to over think when it comes to mixing paints and often go OTT. Like the simple recipe, it's very effective.

D


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/08/13 18:30:14


Post by: A Kvlt Ghost


These are absolutely fantastic. Loving the conversions and the colour scheme - I don't often see camo guard I like, but these look great. It's immediately identifiable as camo while being a coherant and distinctive scheme AND avoiding the common pitfall oif making the models look too busy, so much kudos there. It's a hard balance to get, I could never quite pull it off when I was painting IG.

The conversions are spot on, they really look like women in combat gear. I absolutely loathe the ridiculous "sexy female commisar teehee" nonsense that floats around so many p&m blogs and third-party miniature lines and this project is a great antidote to all that.

This is definitely one of the best IG logs I've seen, looking forward to more. What kind of vehicles are you planning?


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2012/08/15 12:33:28


Post by: Ciaphas


A Kvlt Ghost wrote:These are absolutely fantastic. Loving the conversions and the colour scheme - I don't often see camo guard I like, but these look great. It's immediately identifiable as camo while being a coherant and distinctive scheme AND avoiding the common pitfall oif making the models look too busy, so much kudos there. It's a hard balance to get, I could never quite pull it off when I was painting IG.

The conversions are spot on, they really look like women in combat gear. I absolutely loathe the ridiculous "sexy female commisar teehee" nonsense that floats around so many p&m blogs and third-party miniature lines and this project is a great antidote to all that.

This is definitely one of the best IG logs I've seen, looking forward to more. What kind of vehicles are you planning?


Thx ghost, I'm glad you like them.
I don't really like some of the traditional IG vehicals as I've pointed out in other threads.
I see rapid response as wheeled and recce vehicals. So I'm looking at converting some US strykers for the regular platoons and maybe some elysian vehicals for the recce platoon. I think that this will add that different elite look I'm after.
I will get the stfykers in 1/35 the scale and make my own hatches etc.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2013/01/27 16:24:26


Post by: Ciaphas


Its been a while but the command squad is now finished.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2013/01/27 16:36:27


Post by: Ciaphas


That's 3rd company finished.

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2013/01/27 17:58:03


Post by: AzraelHunt


Hey, excellent work with these; subbed, definitely. I love the gritty, realistic feel you've got going, and both male and female troopers look fantastic. It's great to see some well done female IG, in particular. Nothing too overdone or cartoonish.

I saw you mentned possibly getting some Elysian vehicles. Are any other Elysian units on the cards?


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2013/01/27 18:10:31


Post by: Rothstein


i really like your painting style, especially the face on the company commander


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2013/01/27 18:26:51


Post by: tundrafrog1124


Love the female troopers, great work. And to everyone who says the weapons are too big, look in the fluff. Lasguns are big to guardsmen as well


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2013/01/27 20:17:34


Post by: Ciaphas


 AzraelHunt wrote:
Hey, excellent work with these; subbed, definitely. I love the gritty, realistic feel you've got going, and both male and female troopers look fantastic. It's great to see some well done female IG, in particular. Nothing too overdone or cartoonish.

I saw you mentned possibly getting some Elysian vehicles. Are any other Elysian units on the cards?


Thanks Azrael I appreciate that. For me I love war look veterans over clean models. I'm not going to get elysian vehicals noe I've settled on 1/35th gtk boxers. I really love the shape as nd look so im going to re-hatch them and '40k' them.


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 Rothstein wrote:
i really like your painting style, especially the face on the company commander

Thanks Rothstein I think unshaven gives them a grim in the field look.


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Love the female troopers, great work. And to everyone who says the weapons are too big, look in the fluff. Lasguns are big to guardsmen as well


Yeah I agree tundrafrog and I also think they would be lighter than they look and no army I know of make 'female' weapons and the IG of 40k are all about mass production, starship troopers etc......

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Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2013/01/28 00:38:24


Post by: swampyturtle


I use those bases on my own guard in my P&M blog (around page 3 or so)

They are wonderful and well done arent they?

How hard have you found them to paint and work with? Im curious as a fellow painter. To me they been a welcome learning experience and the details to paint are really interesting.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2013/01/28 01:10:14


Post by: lennymaybe


Nice work. I love what you're doing with the female soldiers, can't wait to see them painted.


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Gah, posted my comment without noticing there was more than one page, and can't see the edit option on my phone. That's what I get for browsing half asleep.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2013/01/28 12:27:38


Post by: Ciaphas


 swampyturtle wrote:
I use those bases on my own guard in my P&M blog (around page 3 or so)

They are wonderful and well done arent they?

How hard have you found them to paint and work with? Im curious as a fellow painter. To me they been a welcome learning experience and the details to paint are really interesting.

Well its the first time I've used ready made bases and they are excellent. They were the first ones that looked war zone. I have found them easy enough to work and will defenatly buy more.


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lennymaybe wrote:
Nice work. I love what you're doing with the female soldiers, can't wait to see them painted.


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Gah, posted my comment without noticing there was more than one page, and can't see the edit option on my phone. That's what I get for browsing half asleep.

Lol done that a few times!


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2013/01/28 14:58:21


Post by: Flinty


Really nice work. Did you consider getting some of hasslefree's weapons as well for the whole force. GW lasguns are foolishly large even for the men so downsizing all of them might have helped?


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2013/01/28 16:33:28


Post by: Smitty


When I first saw these models, I was kind of thinking "Ehhhh...I'm not too sure about these..."

However, when I got to this final page, those thoughts changed to "These are fething awesome."

Great job!


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2013/01/28 16:46:27


Post by: Scott


^

This.

The final result is great - all of your labor paid off in spades. I look forward to seeing the Strykers and Recce platoon.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2013/01/29 08:20:18


Post by: Ciaphas


 Flinty wrote:
Really nice work. Did you consider getting some of hasslefree's weapons as well for the whole force. GW lasguns are foolishly large even for the men so downsizing all of them might have helped?

Toyed with the idea but I still want them to be GW ish.


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 Smitty wrote:
When I first saw these models, I was kind of thinking "Ehhhh...I'm not too sure about these..."

However, when I got to this final page, those thoughts changed to "These are fething awesome."

Great job!

Thanks !


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Scott wrote:
^

This.

The final result is great - all of your labor paid off in spades. I look forward to seeing the Strykers and Recce platoon.

Yeah I'm waiting for my spray gun to arrive. So I'm doing some nurgley bits at the moment.


Female Imperial Guard troops and the Vahallan 77th Rapid Response Regiment @ 2013/02/03 21:59:46


Post by: Dr H


I've not been browsing many IG blogs yet as I haven't got round to them for my army yet, but I thought I'd have a look here after you took the time to go through mine and I'm pleasently surprised after seeing "female" in the title (thinking oh no not more boooooobs).

The female troops look ... like female troops, that is to say not like scantily clad amazons.
There is a time and a place for scantily clad women and it's not a bad thing here and there , but realistic looking models wins in my book.

Nice painting and I really like your camo scheme (read; I'll be adding one to my army when I get round to IG ).

Good Job.