So today i was in the GW store, looking at the events and having a browse as i do, and as ever the store manager did the hard sell, which im fine with normaly, and the hard sell for a copy of WD ready for 6ed. Was a bit warm and iritible, he was doing the "we know something you dont know" bit and il admit, it got to me a little and i said "look, we both know its 6ed, wasnt hard to find out on the forums, same as everything else gets leaked" and his response surprised me. he swore. not AT me, he said along the lines "bloody W**kseer, not worth the effort with low rez images". Now if memory serves in some of the countries W**k isnt a swear, but here it is. So i made my excuse to go and let it slide, was shocked that he swore in front of a customer. So should i go above his head. pr would it be a store managers word against mine? seem to rememebr a similar case someone asked about on here with a homophobic slant to the language

Did you get his name?

htj wrote:Did you get his name?

Yes, hes been there forever and outlasted the old group of staff for the new guys

Did it actually offend you, or were you just surprised that he said it?

Is theword even a swear in the UK? As far as I knew, it was just a word for masturbation.

It is akin to saying 'bloody jerkoffseer'. Certainly not something to say in front of a customer, but still...

edit: Wow, that word is autofiltered by dakka. Neato.

lol i filtered it, didnt want to risk admin attack

yeah its a uk swear, if i remember was some controversy with rooney saying it live.

bit of both tbh, a glorified store assistant shouldnt swear to a customer anyway, wether at or near.

doc1234 wrote:So today i was in the GW store, looking at the events and having a browse as i do, and as ever the store manager did the hard sell, which im fine with normaly, and the hard sell for a copy of WD ready for 6ed. Was a bit warm and iritible, he was doing the "we know something you dont know" bit and il admit, it got to me a little and i said "look, we both know its 6ed, wasnt hard to find out on the forums, same as everything else gets leaked" and his response surprised me. he swore. not AT me, he said along the lines "bloody W**kseer, not worth the effort with low rez images". Now if memory serves in some of the countries W**k isnt a swear, but here it is. So i made my excuse to go and let it slide, was shocked that he swore in front of a customer. So should i go above his head. pr would it be a store managers word against mine? seem to rememebr a similar case someone asked about on here with a homophobic slant to the language

Seriously? Its a very minor swear to the extent that I'm suprised it hasn't started turning up on kids TV yet. Presumably you are a regular and as you were in a convesation with him which seems to have not been about the usual BUY NOW! line then I would guess that he is aquainted with you? If so its not as if he was swearing at a casual customer. If I was his manager I would do precisely nothing about it.

When I was a regular staff members said far worse things in my presence.

Not worth the time as he didn't swear at you.

As an aside you're in your teens right? You hear swearing every two minutes in teenland. Whats your problem?

Frazzled wrote: Whats your problem?

He's looking for an excuse to stick it to the man?

Frazzled wrote:Not worth the time as he didn't swear at you.

As an aside you're in your teens right? You hear swearing every two minutes in teenland. Whats your problem?

God forbid there be standards of decency.

ya, I wouldn't do anything unless it was directed at me (or family/friend for that matter..... maybe even some random passerby)

OverwatchCNC wrote:God forbid there be standards of decency.

Oh come on. Pull the other one. I've said worse in the last 20 minutes. He didn't swear at the guy, he just was having a conversation with him and used some colorful language.

Chances are if the OP was hanging out with his friends, he would have said a lot worse and not thought twice about it.

pretre wrote:

OverwatchCNC wrote:God forbid there be standards of decency.

Oh come on. Pull the other one. I've said worse in the last 20 minutes. He didn't swear at the guy, he just was having a conversation with him and used some colorful language.

Chances are if the OP was hanging out with his friends, he would have said a lot worse and not thought twice about it.

That isn't the point. The portion in red is highly subjective, obviously you would be fine with it but the OP is not otherwise he wouldn't have posted. The guy is working at a job where there are, I presume, standards to uphold. I haven't said worse in the last 20 minutes, you know why? I am at work.

If the OP said worse and didn't think twice about it that wouldn't be a problem because he isn't at work talking to a customer.

I am at work. I have still said worse in the last 20 minutes to people I don't work directly with but have a history with, just like this guy.

suddenly...a certain opening scene from "old school" comes to mind

Oh and of course it is subjective. If not clear, I am speaking from a position of opinion.

pretre wrote:I am at work. I have still said worse in the last 20 minutes to people I don't work directly with but have a history with, just like this guy.

If I was getting the hard sell still from an employee then my "history" with the guy can't be good enough that he can relax his speech around me. If you're my friend then by all means speak your mind and feel free to speak freely. But if you're still giving me the hard sell we aren't friends and you should behave as a sales rep should, and I will behave as a customer should because that is our relationship. From what I read in the OP the latter and not the former is the case here.

Okay, I can buy that a bit.

pretre wrote:Okay, I can buy that a bit.

That's all I was trying to say to begin with. Next time I will try to be more accurate with my original statement rather than a single line...

Im 20, and still you would expect a certain standard in any shop. he wasnt to know i wouldnt take offense, putting it down to age is nothing. Its like if hed said something, anything homophobic in the assumption i was straight. Its context.

And as was said, no were not "friendly" so to speak, i know the guys name, thats about it.

doc1234 wrote:Im 20, and still you would expect a certain standard in any shop. he wasnt to know i wouldnt take offense, putting it down to age is nothing. Its like if hed said something, anything homophobic in the assumption i was straight. Its context.

Okay, Overwatch had me with you, but now you're moving away again...

Calling it jerkoffseer is way less bad than making homophobic or racist statements or calling it mf'ing mentally disabled-seer. I agree that he doesn't know how you'll take it, but try not to attribute worse behavior than what occured to the situation.

pretre wrote:

doc1234 wrote:Im 20, and still you would expect a certain standard in any shop. he wasnt to know i wouldnt take offense, putting it down to age is nothing. Its like if hed said something, anything homophobic in the assumption i was straight. Its context.

Okay, Overwatch had me with you, but now you're moving away again...

Calling it jerkoffseer is way less bad than making homophobic or racist statements or calling it mf'ing mentally disabled-seer. I agree that he doesn't know how you'll take it, but try not to attribute worse behavior than what occured to the situation.

Lol i know theres worse, ment as a generalitation, if he felt he could say one thing in front of a customer whos to say he wont say others around other customers >< heh sorry for not wording better.

Yeah, but don't go for slippery slope on this. He said what he said. We don't know if it was a slip or a calculated move. We must assess whether you should report him based on that statement, not what he could have said.

doc1234 wrote:Im 20, and still you would expect a certain standard in any shop. he wasnt to know i wouldnt take offense, putting it down to age is nothing. Its like if hed said something, anything homophobic in the assumption i was straight. Its context.

And as was said, no were not "friendly" so to speak, i know the guys name, thats about it.

I'm not saying what the guy said was appropriate, because you're right, an employee generally shouldn't swear at a customer. From what you've written though, I kind of get the feeling that you're offended (if that's the right word) by it because you feel like you're supposed to be, not because what he actually said was offensive to you. If that's the case, I think that's a pretty silly reason to complain to a manager about it.

If on the other hand you were actually offended by what he said, then that's a different story.

Go over his head because he called warseer w##k-seer?

Sounds like your being a total douche to me mate.

Seriously, if he swore at you personally I could understand it... well, I personally couldn't, but I could get it if he called you a name and insulted you, But is there really any need for this?

At the end of the day, you might lose a guy his job because your being ridiculously sensitive. He might struggle to pay his bills and feed his kids, but no no.. throw him on the fire because he used an unfunny euphemism.

It's thanks to people like you that everyone calls me "sir" and that in itself makes me uncomfortable. I wish more people spoke like human beings in stores.

I think your being ridiculous frankly, and its a sign of the times when everyone is so bloody namby pamby and desperate to be offended you want to get the guy fired for using an utterly inoffensive swear word.

Im 20, and still you would expect a certain standard in any shop. he wasnt to know i wouldnt take offense, putting it down to age is nothing. Its like if hed said something, anything homophobic in the assumption i was straight. Its context.

God.. the more I read the worse it gets.. 20?!

And homophobic!? He didn't say anything homophobic! Are you just a genuinely being malevolent or are you seriously telling me that 20 year old men get upset by ... well... the W word?

Surely you drop worse words occasionally.. the F bomb? Why on earth do you personally desire this guys blood?

I am in line with pretty much everyone else in this thread.

The GW dude should not have said that, but its not something that shoudl really bother you as it doesnt seem the comment was aimed to insult you and i didnt pick up anything racist/sexist or really anything from his remark.
heck, curse sometimes and dont intend anything by it.

The bigger question.. If you said that word and YOU were fired because of it due to some random customer complaining.. how would you feel?

Is it worth risking someones job because of a minor swear?

OverwatchCNC wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Not worth the time as he didn't swear at you.

As an aside you're in your teens right? You hear swearing every two minutes in teenland. Whats your problem?

God forbid there be standards of decency.

You'd literally die if you were near me for five minutes then.

Frazzled wrote:You'd literally die if you were near me for five minutes then.

The weiners'll eat well tonight boys!

doc1234 wrote:Was a bit warm and iritible, he was doing the "we know something you dont know" bit and il admit, it got to me a little and i said "look, we both know its 6ed, wasnt hard to find out on the forums, same as everything else gets leaked" and his response surprised me. he swore. not AT me, he said along the lines "bloody W**kseer, not worth the effort with low rez images"

So that's a 'yes' then? Really it's a bit unprofessional but probably not worth taking the guy to task over. It depends on the tone of it, if it was just exasperation then that's okay, but if it was nasty or aggressive in tone then that I wouldn't appreciate it.

Is the air around you actually blue, Frazzled, or is that just an expression?

OverwatchCNC wrote:

pretre wrote:

OverwatchCNC wrote:God forbid there be standards of decency.

Oh come on. Pull the other one. I've said worse in the last 20 minutes. He didn't swear at the guy, he just was having a conversation with him and used some colorful language.

Chances are if the OP was hanging out with his friends, he would have said a lot worse and not thought twice about it.

That isn't the point. The portion in red is highly subjective, obviously you would be fine with it but the OP is not otherwise he wouldn't have posted. The guy is working at a job where there are, I presume, standards to uphold. I haven't said worse in the last 20 minutes, you know why? I am at work.

If the OP said worse and didn't think twice about it that wouldn't be a problem because he isn't at work talking to a customer.

I am at work also. We live on creative epitaphs with people thousands of miles away.

Seriously, get over it. If he doesn't like it, life is going to not be kind to him. best to hide in the basement now.


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pretre wrote:

Frazzled wrote:You'd literally die if you were near me for five minutes then.

The weiners'll eat well tonight boys!

They just think of that as ancillary benefits.


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pretre wrote:Is the air around you actually blue, Frazzled, or is that just an expression?

More full of the flashing ANGRY RED LIGHTNING signs like angry marines.

pretre wrote:

doc1234 wrote:Im 20, and still you would expect a certain standard in any shop. he wasnt to know i wouldnt take offense, putting it down to age is nothing. Its like if hed said something, anything homophobic in the assumption i was straight. Its context.

Okay, Overwatch had me with you, but now you're moving away again...

Calling it jerkoffseer is way less bad than making homophobic or racist statements or calling it mf'ing mentally disabled-seer. I agree that he doesn't know how you'll take it, but try not to attribute worse behavior than what occured to the situation.

There's only so much I can do...

OP you're on your own, I don't want to go down this road with Frazzled so I will leave you with this. Would I personally report the guy? No. Do I think you have grounds to if you feel like it? Absolutely. Do I think you'll be any of the less colorful things your being called if you do? No. I also think you can have standards of professional decency and not have to live in your basement but maybe I am alone there.

OverwatchCNC wrote:

pretre wrote:

doc1234 wrote:Im 20, and still you would expect a certain standard in any shop. he wasnt to know i wouldnt take offense, putting it down to age is nothing. Its like if hed said something, anything homophobic in the assumption i was straight. Its context.

Okay, Overwatch had me with you, but now you're moving away again...

Calling it jerkoffseer is way less bad than making homophobic or racist statements or calling it mf'ing mentally disabled-seer. I agree that he doesn't know how you'll take it, but try not to attribute worse behavior than what occured to the situation.

There's only so much I can do...

OP you're on your own, I don't want to go down this road with Frazzled so I will leave you with this. Would I personally report the guy? No. Do I think you have grounds to if you feel like it? Absolutely. Do I think you'll be any of the less colorful things your being called if you do? No. I also think you can have standards of professional decency and not have to live in your basement but maybe I am alone there.

at the end of the day, someone in his position should know better, and it goes against work ethics and codes of conduct that every shop/store has. there are often notices saying staf are to be respected, but what about the other way around? end of the day yes language is prevalant to everyone who doesnt live under a rock, but wether im 10,20, 30, 40 or 50. if you go into any shop you expect a certain standard of courtesy

doc1234 wrote:

OverwatchCNC wrote:

pretre wrote:

doc1234 wrote:Im 20, and still you would expect a certain standard in any shop. he wasnt to know i wouldnt take offense, putting it down to age is nothing. Its like if hed said something, anything homophobic in the assumption i was straight. Its context.

Okay, Overwatch had me with you, but now you're moving away again...

Calling it jerkoffseer is way less bad than making homophobic or racist statements or calling it mf'ing mentally disabled-seer. I agree that he doesn't know how you'll take it, but try not to attribute worse behavior than what occured to the situation.

There's only so much I can do...

OP you're on your own, I don't want to go down this road with Frazzled so I will leave you with this. Would I personally report the guy? No. Do I think you have grounds to if you feel like it? Absolutely. Do I think you'll be any of the less colorful things your being called if you do? No. I also think you can have standards of professional decency and not have to live in your basement but maybe I am alone there.

at the end of the day, someone in his position should know better, and it goes against work ethics and codes of conduct that every shop/store has. there are often notices saying staf are to be respected, but what about the other way around? end of the day yes language is prevalant to everyone who doesnt live under a rock, but wether im 10,20, 30, 40 or 50. if you go into any shop you expect a certain standard of courtesy

How about grow a pair already and quite your bs. You report him and he's likely fired.

Here's a better alternative. Quit spending so much time at a store selling toy soldiers to 12 year olds that the retail staff there know you and you know all their names. You're looking for an excuse to get pissed off and it stinks to high heaven.

Everyone makes mistakes. They made a minor slip up. Move the on already.

What do expect and/or wish to achieve by reporting him?

A tiny little halo and a good feeling tonight when taking a dump?

Dunno?

After reading this thread, I have two revelations:

The GW employee shouldn't have said what he did, but at least he said something reasonable rather than downright offensive.

The OP must play Xbox live a lot.

To the OP~ There's a really easy way to look at the situation:
Were the comments made to an adult who would understand the reason: Likely yes

Were the comments made to a child where it would be considered offensive by most persons: No.

Were you personally offended to the point where you feel like you need to take immediate action because you or someone else was insulted in a culturally, religious, or overall severely insulting way: it doesn't sound like it if you are still thinking on it. If you were, you would have had an immediate in the moment reaction, not a think about it later that day.

Sounds like your an adult. I would let it go and just keep it in the mind for later interaction. Even mention to the staff on the next occurance you were bothered by their language they use, and you found it somewhat offensive. See how the person reactions. If it was different and he was cursing at a child, i'd say go above his head. If its casual swearing which you see similarly on TV and there are no children around, its an opportunity ot approach the person.

To me, it sounds like language you'd hear in friendly gaming with people of similar ages, I really wouldn't be concerned much. Always thing of this: if my actions cause this person to be fired do I feel they are justifiable. If you are thinking no, or maybe, you don't go above their head, talk to them like an adult. If your thinking definitively "yes" you have to do what you have to do. My first suggestion is always talk about the incident to the person first. If he blows you off or swears again, that's different. If he says "wow I never thought of it that way" and he's honest, you may have done a better thing then going over their head.

pretre wrote:I am at work. I have still said worse in the last 20 minutes to people I don't work directly with but have a history with, just like this guy.

We swear at work all the time-my boss once called me up and his first words were: "what's up, muthafetha?!" I'd like to say I'm making it up, but I'm not. He also drew a middle finger on notes I was taking during a workshop we were doing in December. My boss is alright.

Also, 'spank' is really a curse-word? That's fething brilliant. Trust the Brit's to have such asshattery. One of my friends last names sounds like spank, only has one letter off. We make fun of him for it. No wonder he isn't amused. Matty, I'm sure you'll be in this thread before long, please PM me with a list of all the British swear words you know, and what their meanings are. I figure that should keep me entertained for about a week after it takes you three months to get the shear amount of them down on paper. Lol

njpc wrote:To the OP~ There's a really easy way to look at the situation:
Were the comments made to an adult who would understand the reason: Likely yes

Were the comments made to a child where it would be considered offensive by most persons: No.

Were you personally offended to the point where you feel like you need to take immediate action because you or someone else was insulted in a culturally, religious, or overall severely insulting way: it doesn't sound like it if you are still thinking on it. If you were, you would have had an immediate in the moment reaction, not a think about it later that day.

Sounds like your an adult. I would let it go and just keep it in the mind for later interaction. Even mention to the staff on the next occurance you were bothered by their language they use, and you found it somewhat offensive. See how the person reactions. If it was different and he was cursing at a child, i'd say go above his head. If its casual swearing which you see similarly on TV and there are no children around, its an opportunity ot approach the person.

To me, it sounds like language you'd hear in friendly gaming with people of similar ages, I really wouldn't be concerned much. Always thing of this: if my actions cause this person to be fired do I feel they are justifiable. If you are thinking no, or maybe, you don't go above their head, talk to them like an adult. If your thinking definitively "yes" you have to do what you have to do. My first suggestion is always talk about the incident to the person first. If he blows you off or swears again, that's different. If he says "wow I never thought of it that way" and he's honest, you may have done a better thing then going over their head.

True enough, what got to me was the fact he swore which offended me, not what he said, which i can live with, as has been said, i swear a blue streak and we say worse. So i suppose il do that, end of the day isnt like i cant just deside not to go there, i could, theres 2 FLGS down the road from there another GW within an hours walk of my house, its just i LIKE that gw, im used to it lol. Still suppose best i can do is go talk to him tomorow while im up there and see what he says.

heh and no i dont play xbox live, dont really play videogames much generaly cept on the bus or over my lunchbreak

doc1234 wrote:Was a bit warm and iritible, he was doing the "we know something you dont know" bit and il admit, it got to me a little and i said "look, we both know its 6ed, wasnt hard to find out on the forums, same as everything else gets leaked" and his response surprised me. he swore. not AT me, he said along the lines "bloody W**kseer, not worth the effort with low rez images"

Nah I dont think you should report him as he could possibly lose his job.

What you should have responded with:

Him: "bloody W**kseer, not worth the effort with low rez images"

You: "Maybe but it's a far better option than reading through that S**t magazine"

Lol, but dont report him cause everyone has bad days from time to time

Necro wrote:

doc1234 wrote:Was a bit warm and iritible, he was doing the "we know something you dont know" bit and il admit, it got to me a little and i said "look, we both know its 6ed, wasnt hard to find out on the forums, same as everything else gets leaked" and his response surprised me. he swore. not AT me, he said along the lines "bloody W**kseer, not worth the effort with low rez images"

Nah I dont think you should report him as he could possibly lose his job.

What you should have responded with:

Him: "bloody W**kseer, not worth the effort with low rez images"

You: "Maybe but it's a far better option than reading through that S**t magazine"

Lol, but dont report him cause everyone has bad days from time to time

haha read up, i desided not to go that far

tbh he seems to have a WD hardon anyway, its the one thing he tries getting me to buy most and iv tried to keep civil and put him off over it saying il borrow a friends subscription when he brings it up every week im there (none of them have one of course, just better than telling him to feth off about it)

I feel for the OP here a bit, it's not really the swearing that would get me. If you're a regular at the store now he'll forever be known as "That Warseer/Dakka/Tacobell guy" who only lives in his basement and is on the Internet 24/7 (except to come down to the store). He's the one the staffers will demean as, heaven forbid a customer knows something the staffer does not know, because he goes on the Internet and we all know the Internet and GW do not mix.

I've had it happen to myself, with staffers moaning of "bloody Warseer" etc. who apparently "ruin the HHHobby" with their websites.

@Grimtuff: Umm, again I think we may be reading too far into this. He said nothing about being discriminated against or demeaned, he just was present for a conversation where the employee called it jerkoffseer.

I've worked in retail before and if I swore on the shop floor even if it was to the store manager then something would have been said about it.

Who ever you are talking to, if you are in a public facing environment use of any bad language is unprofessional. Not to mention what if some 14 year old was there with a parent what would they have to say? I've taken my 5 year old to my local GW and if they'd used that language whilst I was in the store I would make sure they didn't work there long.

I'm honestly curious; why is w**k considered to have homosexual overtones? Do straight Britons not, uh, service themselves, or is w**k something only done unto others, not to oneself?

@Foster: The fact is that there was no one else there. You can't say 'What if I brought my 5 year old?' because you didn't. He was there with the GW guy and he said it.

I agree, if there was a 5 year old there this would be a different issue. Also, if the Pope was there, some japanese school girls or perhaps my dead grandmother, but none of those people were there.

If using the word spank is offensive I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Griever wrote:If using the word spank is offensive I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Dibs on your stuff!

Seriously though, I don't know that anyone (besides you) is saying that spank isn't offensive. We're saying it isn't a big deal. It is all about context.

@pretre: No your right those people weren't there at the time, however the OP hasn't said there was just him and the manager there and no one else. Regardless of who was there any sort of bad language should not be used in a shop

He's not 5 he's 20. He's likely older than the staff.

As has been said, what would you hope to achieve? If he does it again remind him about the lingo. Enough done there.

I'm frankly shocked you still remember it, or would have remembered it five minutes after.

pretre wrote:@Grimtuff: Umm, again I think we may be reading too far into this. He said nothing about being discriminated against or demeaned, he just was present for a conversation where the employee called it jerkoffseer.

I'm referring to the fact that if the OP is a regular customer at the store, not if he is a random passer-by. Trust me, I've seen it happen, not just to myself. GW does not like the Internet and mention of sites like Dakka etc. from what I've witnessed (depending on the staffer) is considered verboten instore, and gets you nothing but RAEG! from the staff member, it's like some staffer's bezerk button.

I remember several years ago playing a game instore and we were idly chatting about what we'd read on this very site, I didn't notice a staffer starting work and he came right up in my face as he was going into the back area and said "Is that why you're still a virgin then?" I wanted to punch that fether. Should have reported him but I didn't really know I could do those kind of things back then.

Thats awesome and awesomely not pertinent.

So basically, you're trying to imprint your experience onto this guy's story. Yeah...

pretre wrote:So basically, you're trying to imprint your experience onto this guy's story. Yeah...

No, I've seen it happen in multiple stores to multiple people. Mention those magic words of "Warseer", "Dakka", "BOLS", etc. and either you'll get a good chat with a staffer or it will be their berserk button. Thing is, you cannot tell.

Frazzled wrote:

OverwatchCNC wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Not worth the time as he didn't swear at you.

As an aside you're in your teens right? You hear swearing every two minutes in teenland. Whats your problem?

God forbid there be standards of decency.

You'd literally die if you were near me for five minutes then.

lol'd

Being over sensative i fear. If you worked where I do you'd expect that and worse just as a greeting.

pretre wrote:So basically, you're trying to imprint your experience onto this guy's story. Yeah...

No, basically I'm trying to hold back what I really think, but "quit whining and put on your big girl panties" is the gyst of it.

Here's the truth of it. You're "hanging out" in a place of business. Do not expect that all mores of a place of business are going to hold when you're treating it like a club. Don't expect Mercedes politeness when you're hanging out at Bob's Bar and Grill, and get all butthurt when an employee slips up and acts normal.

No. You shouldn't. If you REALLY were offended by it, say something to the person who offended you.

Grimtuff wrote:

pretre wrote:So basically, you're trying to imprint your experience onto this guy's story. Yeah...

No, I've seen it happen in multiple stores to multiple people. Mention those magic words of "Warseer", "Dakka", "BOLS", etc. and either you'll get a good chat with a staffer or it will be their berserk button. Thing is, you cannot tell.

Have you asked yourself why you're hanging out in multiple stores jabbering Warseer", "Dakka", "BOLS" at multiple people?

Frazzled wrote:

pretre wrote:So basically, you're trying to imprint your experience onto this guy's story. Yeah...

No, basically I'm trying to hold back what I really think, but "quit whining and put on your big girl panties" is the gyst of it.

Here's the truth of it. You're "hanging out" in a place of business. Do not expect that all mores of a place of business are going to hold when you're treating it like a club. Don't expect Mercedes politeness when you're hanging out at Bob's Bar and Grill, and get all butthurt when an employee slips up and acts normal.

I was picking on Grakmar! We're on the same page.

Frazzled wrote:

Grimtuff wrote:

pretre wrote:So basically, you're trying to imprint your experience onto this guy's story. Yeah...

No, I've seen it happen in multiple stores to multiple people. Mention those magic words of "Warseer", "Dakka", "BOLS", etc. and either you'll get a good chat with a staffer or it will be their berserk button. Thing is, you cannot tell.

Have you asked yourself why you're hanging out in multiple stores jabbering Warseer", "Dakka", "BOLS" at multiple people?

I'm not though. You've just jumped to that assumption. If you go into any GW store with much regularity and hear someone mention something they heard on "the internets" you'll either get a fair non-reaction from the staffer, this: or have them enter RAEG!!!!1!!!!1! mode like what the OP experienced.

pretre wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

pretre wrote:So basically, you're trying to imprint your experience onto this guy's story. Yeah...

No, basically I'm trying to hold back what I really think, but "quit whining and put on your big girl panties" is the gyst of it.

Here's the truth of it. You're "hanging out" in a place of business. Do not expect that all mores of a place of business are going to hold when you're treating it like a club. Don't expect Mercedes politeness when you're hanging out at Bob's Bar and Grill, and get all butthurt when an employee slips up and acts normal.

I was picking on Grakmar! We're on the same page.

Woops sorry. Team Wienie is more of an area effect weapon than a JDAM.

I'd be more offended he didn't make a play on Dakka Dakka's name myself.

Grimtuff wrote:I'm not though. You've just jumped to that assumption. If you go into any GW store with much regularity and hear someone mention something they heard on "the internets" you'll either get a fair non-reaction from the staffer, this: or have them enter RAEG!!!!1!!!!1! mode like what the OP experienced.

So in your experience, exactly what happens to the OP is what you have seen. How many times have you seen the discrimination, etc so on? Because there's no indication that that happened here.

Yeah, i usually try to not talk about dakka much while im in a GW, at a FLGS i dont think they really care(or at least mine) but dont be surprised if a GW employee isnt super "happy happy joy joy" when you talk about a website that is well known for at least some "anti-GW'ism" and rumour spreading

Frazzled: I <3 your wiener.

That is all.

Oh, and OP needs to drop it. I would have just laughed and shrugged it off. They are probably trained to cuss at websites like Warseer and Dakka because they go against the GW system of knowing things they shouldn't know.

man up, grow a pair...

honestly sounds like OP is just trolling the board

OP, you made me side with Frazzled, that alone should make you feel like a terrible person. Not to mention the part where you want to go out of your way to ruin a man's career (for lack of a better word) for no reason.

nah dont go over his head..he's being punished enough having to work there ..

Seriously it's not worth it. Especially for such a non-offensive word.

CURNOW wrote:nah dont go over his head..he's being punished enough having to work there ..

Exactly.

This is generally why working retail sucks. It allows people with no power to be able to control your life. Why do they do? Because being able to have a little bit of power over someone (when you normally don't) is exciting.

Ehh... go over his head, he been there so long he knows the systems, the stock and how to sell. Becouse he would of outlasted other staff (like you pointed out) if he wasn't. So you need to get him replaced with some one new, who has no idea what there doing. It will be much better for everyone, maybe the new guy will even smell worse.

I don't think they'd sack him for it. I'd imagine it would be a telling off at the most. However I think it might be a bit late for the OP to say something now. I also think it should be said to him first, something along the lines of 'that's not appropriate'

Take it up with him privately first- rationally, and with a honest, genuine concern that it was inappropriate and offended you.

I personally would recommend letting it go.

Tell him you'll keel heem next time he offends you.

eh already desided to let it go, at this stage have been more curious about peoples reactions on here. as said i like this store and its events, plus the other two staffers more than make up for the managres shortcomings

To the OP:

People who like to wield the "I am retail customer and i am god" power are such spankers.
Why would you report him, having a website denigrated, oh my god call the boys in blue. Maybe you are best mates with the pope and think that masturbation is the work of the devil?
my advice: go and release some of that tension with some self love.

I'd just talk honestly to the manager- tell him you don't think it's appropriate to use that language, especially in an environment where there is often youngsters.

Personally the only time I would even bother complaining about that is if I had my kid with me.

Otherwise if you werent offended and no one else was and kids werent around its no biggie

wow this is the funniest thread i have read in ages, each page has me laughing.

w**k? seriously thats it?

geez it must be just as bad as this:
(caution exceedingly foul verbal abuse and slander is used here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn0lwGk4u9o

I wonder if any of you remember the beating we took for that one loooool
god forbid i put Bl**dy and W**k together i will be shunned for all eternity.
theres political correctness and then there is madness, i think a few people need to loosen up a little, you'll get brain cancer from stressing so much over nothing.

and just one last thing said by a aussie legend (note:this does actual contain verbal language of the F kind so if you are offended don't click here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=G9GO5-dnTN0

If you were offended, you shouldn't have been offended.

Rogues Gambit wrote:wow this is the funniest thread i have read in ages, each page has me laughing.

w**k? seriously thats it?

geez it must be just as bad as this:
(caution exceedingly foul verbal abuse and slander is used here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn0lwGk4u9o

I wonder if any of you remember the beating we took for that one loooool
god forbid i put Bl**dy and W**k together i will be shunned for all eternity.
theres political correctness and then there is madness, i think a few people need to loosen up a little, you'll get brain cancer from stressing so much over nothing.

and just one last thing said by a aussie legend (note:this does actual contain verbal language of the F kind so if you are offended don't click here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=G9GO5-dnTN0

Yes, but the true crime is that Lara got her own reality show, although I think it's about to get the axe!

At the OP, seriously, I'm bored at work so I read this whole thread and what that guy said was absolutely nothing really. You went into a shop where his whole job is to sell you stuff, then you get annoyed that he tries hard to do so, then you bring up Warseer or whatever and throw that in his face? Sure, most GW staff don't know that much and the rest of us would love it if they did, (then we could argue with them even more right?) but at the end of the day, its his job to try to be the most knowledgable person about thier product and thier own company makes it hard for them to do so. I'd feel like an idiot too, when every informed customer knew more about my company than I did, but you want to stick it to him because he takes that a bit personally! That's ridiculous! You'd prefer someone who didn't even know about Warseer or Dakka maybe?

That being said, I agree with you about swearing in any capacity to a customer, its not cool, but at the same time, when you are familiar with a customer, part of that relationship is being a bit more open, although sometimes its a tricky balance.

Don't report him for that though, you don't know that when you walked out of the store, he wasn't thinking to himself, 'I probably shouldn't have said that!'

Jihadnik wrote:

Rogues Gambit wrote:wow this is the funniest thread i have read in ages, each page has me laughing.

w**k? seriously thats it?

geez it must be just as bad as this:
(caution exceedingly foul verbal abuse and slander is used here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn0lwGk4u9o

I wonder if any of you remember the beating we took for that one loooool
god forbid i put Bl**dy and W**k together i will be shunned for all eternity.
theres political correctness and then there is madness, i think a few people need to loosen up a little, you'll get brain cancer from stressing so much over nothing.

and just one last thing said by a aussie legend (note:this does actual contain verbal language of the F kind so if you are offended don't click here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=G9GO5-dnTN0

Yes, but the true crime is that Lara got her own reality show, although I think it's about to get the axe!

At the OP, seriously, I'm bored at work so I read this whole thread and what that guy said was absolutely nothing really. You went into a shop where his whole job is to sell you stuff, then you get annoyed that he tries hard to do so, then you bring up Warseer or whatever and throw that in his face? Sure, most GW staff don't know that much and the rest of us would love it if they did, (then we could argue with them even more right?) but at the end of the day, its his job to try to be the most knowledgable person about thier product and thier own company makes it hard for them to do so. I'd feel like an idiot too, when every informed customer knew more about my company than I did, but you want to stick it to him because he takes that a bit personally! That's ridiculous! You'd prefer someone who didn't even know about Warseer or Dakka maybe?

That being said, I agree with you about swearing in any capacity to a customer, its not cool, but at the same time, when you are familiar with a customer, part of that relationship is being a bit more open, although sometimes its a tricky balance.

Don't report him for that though, you don't know that when you walked out of the store, he wasn't thinking to himself, 'I probably shouldn't have said that!'

yeah agreed there, it's those kinds of tv exec decisions which have stopped me from watching tv now for quite a while.

I also second all those who are of the don't report him opinion. It's just not worth it for all involved.

You didn't miss much, she still looks like a chipmunk...

He gets annoyed because people know about a release before GW "reveals" it? Really dude, he's got bigger problems than you going over his head.

Saying **nk while you are working is probably not offensive but certainly bad work manners, If he was my employee I wouldn't firme him, everybody has had moments where you forget where you are, but I would just tell him to watch language.

There's no need to censor the word yourself guys. The Dakka Dakka forum software (needlessly) does it already (in a clumsy fashion).

I would not report him.

There is really nothing to report him for.

I'll put it this way - if you feel genuinely offended or shocked then by all means report it.

Sure, people swear. But what if little Timmy had been in there shopping with his elderly grandparents and had heard that? The managers and staff have this drilled into them. They have to mind their language, they have to be respectful and they have to be cautious of their environment as children are involved and that can cause all sorts of problems.

It'd be his own damn fault if something happened because of it.

doc1234 wrote:it got to me a little and i said "look, we both know its 6ed, wasnt hard to find out on the forums, same as everything else gets leaked" and his response surprised me. he swore. not AT me, he said along the lines "bloody W**kseer, not worth the effort with low rez images"...

Well at least he didn't say "bloody FappaFappa"

Let it go as a mildly amusing incident and move on with life...