All these news stories regarding the worrying amount of insane face eating zombie imitating weirdos has got me worried, and whilst I doubt it will get worse than a slight nuisance, and definately not a full scale disaster, I do feel it would be a good idea to have a zombie survival plan in place.
Small problem though. I live in the UK, and unlike America, where firearms are easy to come by, and Japan, with museums and even shops with decent swords (or so I'm told), getting effective zombie-slaying weapons over here is not easy.
How do the Dakka community suggest I survive the inevitable hordes of dim witted, decaying reanimated corpses? By the looks of things the zombie virus isn't contagious, so less need to worry about the consequence of wounds.
By the UK closing its borders and hoping zombies can't fly.
Since we're an island nation, the zombies will have to travel underwater. Unless they can swim, the intense pressure at the bottom of the sea will obliterate them and/or they'll get eaten by marine wildlife.
Avatar 720 wrote:By the UK closing its borders and hoping zombies can't fly.
Since we're an island nation, the zombies will have to travel underwater. Unless they can swim, the intense pressure at the bottom of the sea will obliterate them and/or they'll get eaten by marine wildlife.
We royally buggered ourselves by agreeing to the channel tunnel though...
But to anwser OP:
Decent western swords, maces, spears, sheilds, chainmail, etc.
Muskets!
Guns (just not as many and harder to access)
Cannons
Castles
Bagpipes (north of the border)
the weather
I say the scottish government makes scratch companies of all the crazy neds we seem to have in abundant supplies that (given enough buckie) would be spoiling for a fight with them died folk' ower there
failing that the Shetalnds and Faroe Islands should be isolated enough to survive
Avatar 720 wrote:By the UK closing its borders and hoping zombies can't fly.
Since we're an island nation, the zombies will have to travel underwater. Unless they can swim, the intense pressure at the bottom of the sea will obliterate them and/or they'll get eaten by marine wildlife.
We royally buggered ourselves by agreeing to the channel tunnel though...
On the contrary, we can rig it with kersplosives and nuke a large amount of zeds as they shuffle through it, then seal it up.
Hide in the attic.
break into neighboring units for supplies til the electricity runs out.
once power dies get onto the power cables and head to costco (big warehouse, no windows except the main entrace which has security gates and big roof for plants)
you'd think in the UK you'd get a crossbow and find a castle to hold up in.
The problem with your plan though is most people, while the initial panic is going down, would head to places like Costco to loot some supplies. Best case scenario, It's picked clean or some people have turned it into a small community and have everything rationed out for everyone to last for a while.
Worst case scenario, some infected walk in with the looting crowd, Costco is now Zombie HQ.
Iur_tae_mont wrote:The problem with your plan though is most people, while the initial panic is going down, would head to places like Costco to loot some supplies. Best case scenario, It's picked clean or some people have turned it into a small community and have everything rationed out for everyone to last for a while.
Worst case scenario, some infected walk in with the looting crowd, Costco is now Zombie HQ.
if its already a community I show up and help out.
if its a walking dead zone, I can work from the high roof and tall shelving units to get supplies I need and work on clearing them out.
it really depends on how thoroughly it got picked clean, there's one withing 3 miles of my house and its got a huge propane tank for refills, a auto shop, and a indoor kitchen. But I'd be more interested in the garden section, how many people would take the dirt and seeds? or all the generators? it would still be worth the trip to get there and see whats up with it. The whole trip is a 3 mile strip of strip malls, and a large mall.
the main reason to hold up is to see if the military can get the situation under control, no point rushing out first thing and risk getting killed when it could all blow over in a day or two. Plus with the town I'm in being smallish no place is open 24 hours. so if the outbreak starts in the middle of the night (like they usually do in the movies) all those stores would have been closed so I should have some luck finding supplies. the down side is with it being canada, the gun shops are not on the path I'd take and are mostly in the middle of town so that would be a treacherous place to try and get to.
I'd be good, I live 5 miles away from RAF Brize Norton. Guns, Grenades, Body Armour, Oh My!....
Automatically Appended Next Post: And can I just say, the amount of people from over the pond who think that we Brits have a Castle in every town is really cute......
People are looking at a zombie apocalypse at too small a scale here. Think about it economically. When people hear the dead are rising, they won't care about going to work or buying the latest fad products or that sort of gak. Farmers aren't going to go out and harvest grain when they might stumble into a zombie. Sure, they can probably beat a zombie in a fight, but do they want to take that chance? It'd be easier to just set up fort in their basement and wait it out. What about all those people who maintain phone and powerlines or the Internet? Society as we know it will collapse.
Meanwhile, the zombie problem will never go away. People will always be dying and according to the Romero laws, the dead will always be rising. With society reeling, this will allow the undead to gain numbers. And that's how they're going to win. I imagine large portion of deaths would be due to dehydration, fires, disease and other problems that society used to take care of. Every person that dies will become one of them.
sarpedons-right-hand wrote:I'd be good, I live 5 miles away from RAF Brize Norton. Guns, Grenades, Body Armour, Oh My!....
Automatically Appended Next Post: And can I just say, the amount of people from over the pond who think that we Brits have a Castle in every town is really cute......
I'd never say every town, but you do have some there, and it is possible you live near one. a whole lot nearer to one that I do
back to the op about what to collect, if shour notice go outside grab a stick, use a kitchen knife to turn it into a spear, it probable wont do much but its better then the kitchen knife, next barricade your place of residence and grap as much food and seeds as you can, stock pile on water for drinking and bathing, get a better melee weapon, and a gun if you can, after you are trained with your weapons abd have your fort settled, with seeds planted, head on over to your local hobby store and grab all the boxes of product that are for your army, also get all the super glue and paint you need, next get home and get to work getting your entire army painted, you should be done about the time the outbreak is over, now you can go back to your hobby store with a large beautifully painted army and continue on with your life. (you thought this advice was going to be useful at first didnt you? )
LoneLictor wrote:People are looking at a zombie apocalypse at too small a scale here. Think about it economically. When people hear the dead are rising, they won't care about going to work or buying the latest fad products or that sort of gak. Farmers aren't going to go out and harvest grain when they might stumble into a zombie. Sure, they can probably beat a zombie in a fight, but do they want to take that chance? It'd be easier to just set up fort in their basement and wait it out. What about all those people who maintain phone and powerlines or the Internet? Society as we know it will collapse.
Meanwhile, the zombie problem will never go away. People will always be dying and according to the Romero laws, the dead will always be rising. With society reeling, this will allow the undead to gain numbers. And that's how they're going to win. I imagine large portion of deaths would be due to dehydration, fires, disease and other problems that society used to take care of. Every person that dies will become one of them.
Ah! I nearly forgot about the farmers. We're fine.
I'm a survivor. I'm also a team player. Water is easy obtain. Food though will be insane to get but there's always a way and mean to get them. One literally have to think outside the box to survive. Why the basement? No escape. Why not the 2nd floor of the house? Chop the stairs out to prevent access to upper floors incase your position goes to piss.
LoneLictor wrote:People are looking at a zombie apocalypse at too small a scale here. Think about it economically. When people hear the dead are rising, they won't care about going to work or buying the latest fad products or that sort of gak. Farmers aren't going to go out and harvest grain when they might stumble into a zombie. Sure, they can probably beat a zombie in a fight, but do they want to take that chance? It'd be easier to just set up fort in their basement and wait it out. What about all those people who maintain phone and powerlines or the Internet? Society as we know it will collapse.
Meanwhile, the zombie problem will never go away. People will always be dying and according to the Romero laws, the dead will always be rising. With society reeling, this will allow the undead to gain numbers. And that's how they're going to win. I imagine large portion of deaths would be due to dehydration, fires, disease and other problems that society used to take care of. Every person that dies will become one of them.
Ah! I nearly forgot about the farmers. We're fine.
My point is, people won't be harvesting new food. Furthermore, with power plants failing, all the refrigerated food will expire. Humanity will be dependent on canned foods and really looters will be stealing them up as fast as humanely possible. And think about water. You can die of dehydration in just two days.
My point is, people won't be harvesting new food. Furthermore, with power plants failing, all the refrigerated food will expire. Humanity will be dependent on canned foods and really looters will be stealing them up as fast as humanely possible. And think about water. You can die of dehydration in just two days.
Water can be really easy to get or really hard depending upon where you live. If you have power and live in a humid area a dehumidifier can keep you in all the water you need. But there are numerous ways to collect, filter and purify water, you just find one that works for where you live.
HAve a REI or a camping store? Mind you majority of people thinking Walmart, Safeway, Foodlion, Giant, or whatever grocery store chain. Think reverse. Distro centers for the food chain store. Potable water easy to obtain by purification tablets as an example. As for food its the calories you need. A MRE can last one to one and half days. You be hungry but not starving. Fortress DakkaDakka with our british contingent who I'm sure will get a ship to cross the pond will be in WA
Jihadin wrote:I'm a survivor. I'm also a team player. Water is easy obtain. Food though will be insane to get but there's always a way and mean to get them. One literally have to think outside the box to survive. Why the basement? No escape. Why not the 2nd floor of the house? Chop the stairs out to prevent access to upper floors incase your position goes to piss.
Well holy gak, as one of my backup plans, I had that exact same plan but for a 2nd story apartment complex not too far from here. I was going to chop out the stairs and use the second floor with multiple outs incase the gak hit the fan. AND its near a stream with a road that runs over it, with one of those big ass coverts that run under the road. So Id have steady water for many things, and if I had to escape I could run down to the stream behind the complex, and disappear that way.
You're basically screwed. In the event that you somehow aren't, check again -- it's probably just lag and you're actually dead. If you do find yourself somehow alive, you'd need at least these things to continue surviving, IMO:
- An in-shape and healthy body(including eyes, for the long-term)
- Very good knowledge of the local area(oft-congested roads to avoid, alternative routes out of the area)
- Some means to defend yourself(ideally a firearm or two, ammo, and maintenance tools for them; an improvised bludgeoning weapon would do to avoid attention)
- Readily available(and portable) food and clean water
- A calm, level head
Those are the basics. If you don't have that, you're probably fethed. Ideally, you'd want these things as well:
- Radio(CB radio, too?)
- Maps or knowledge of surrounding area, for the sake of designating a remote, defensible location to survive in
- A vehicle(not a sedan, something more rugged) with extra fuel(wouldn't last in the long term, but could be very helpful until then)
- First-aid kit and working knowledge of how to treat basic wounds
- Decent clothing for the climate(as well as dependable shoes)
...or alternatively:
- Tons of prostitutes
- Tons of drugs
- A pistol for when the latter two run out
Crocket hoops can be pretty sharp. A new way to cause Zombies pain. Zombiepocalypse got you in the middle of a game of crocket? No need to panic. Outside the box enough? Or you could just use the crocket hammer.
sarpedons-right-hand wrote:I'd be good, I live 5 miles away from RAF Brize Norton. Guns, Grenades, Body Armour, Oh My!....
Automatically Appended Next Post: And can I just say, the amount of people from over the pond who think that we Brits have a Castle in every town is really cute......
I'd never say every town, but you do have some there, and it is possible you live near one. a whole lot nearer to one that I do
While every town is a bit off. I'd say you're never more than 30 miles from some old fortified building in the UK, at least south of the highlands.
One of the better weapons would actually probably be a bow or slingshot of sorts. Guns will scare off people, but likely attract them to you. Grenades could be useful but'd be more of an absolute last resort thing. A crowbar would be useful as it doubles as a tool, and would probably see more use as such. The best way to fight them being to mostly avoid them unless absolutely needed of course. Depending on how easy they are to distract, road flares could also be handy. Figure out how to use one with the bow/slingshot and you may have something as effective as a grenade, though more temporary; the added bonus being of course that it won't also make the ones outside of the blast radius suddenly rush you.
Jihadin wrote:Why not the 2nd floor of the house? Chop the stairs out to prevent access to upper floors incase your position goes to piss.
As long as you have a rope ladder or such otherwise it'd go the way of the basement really. Then it depends on how close that house is to neighbouring ones. May have to wreck a few lots of stairs.
Get together with some people the have horses, get some skill with a bow, sword, and any firearms you can scratch up and roam the land like the Golden Horde.
Think of the numbers of people you will attract that are fans of Ghengis Khan, and the terror youwill inspire on the normally, non caring zombies as you swoop down, killing their men and raping their women.
In a short time, the zombies will flee before even the mention of your approach, and will apply for government protection.
At that point, they are totaly in your power.
In a short time, the zombies will flee before even the mention of your approach, and will apply for government protection.
At that point, they are totaly in your power.
I live in the UK, and unlike America, where firearms are easy to come by, and Japan, with museums and even shops with decent swords (or so I'm told), getting effective zombie-slaying weapons over here is not easy.
Didn't stop the IRA very much, seems like. (NOTICE: I AM NOT ADVOCATING BREAKING THE LAW IN ANY WAY. THIS IS MERELY FOOD FOR THOUGHT.) Look up the history of the Avenger SMG, then think on the implications of that, knowledge of basic machining, and that a blowback firearm will function with ammunition made with home made black powder and the scraped off powder from strike-anywhere matches as a primer compound.
.....Of course in an apocalypse, you'll have plenty of L85* rifles and similar lying about (or hanging from zombies)...whether that's PREFERABLE to a smoothbore garage SMG with hobo-ammo is another debate entirely.
Plan A:
Hijack a cruise ship. They have massive food stores, and the capability to become nearly-impenetrable mobile fortresses. Plan A will require bloodshed, however.
Plan B:
Mountains. Ever try to hike up a mountain? It takes some effort, particularly if you're not following a trail. The uncoordinated undead will not likely be able to complete the trip without breaking their legs or being eaten by bears & mountain lions. I'm fortunate to live in a region where mountains and rivers are both plentiful.
Plan C:
Make armour out of old tires and cut hair into a red mohawk; go looking for people hiding in their cellars.
Wargear(?):
-Fire Axe
-Motorcycle Helmet
-Motorcycle Jacket
-Motorcycle Pants
-Netting (to line in a river for fishing)
-Zippo lighter
The most ideal weapon/tool will be the fire axe. It doubles as a silent & effective killing tool, as well as a pry-bar, and can also be used to chop wood. The weight saved from having to carry three separate tools for these uses will be infinitely valuable. The rest of the gear is for armour, at least insofar as escaping the city. The helmet will not narrow the field of vision, and the rest of the gear can easily be found as either leather or synthetics, both of which a human cannot bite through, and none of which weigh enough to create a burden to wear after even several hours.
Whats the point in a Zombie Apocalypse if you are hiding in mountains/on a cruise ship - you can do that now, no undead required.
No I'm a traditionalist, shopping malls and castles at the order of the day. Guns and ammo are more plentyful here than many Britains imagine, particularly shotguns.
Me I'm think more of a Mad Max approach, a interceptor with suitable spiked ball bars on would do he trick but replace some Aussie muscle car with the biggest Land rover I can lay my hands on or a just use a Cougar from Colchester barracks if they are kind enough to leave keys lying about.
Jihadin wrote:Think outside the box. There are other places to hit up for food then what you are use to and what you know.
The zombies not only think outside of the box, they crawl out of it.
One question here, what good is it to go to the basement or even trying to hide in a brick or concrete building when zombies that are walking around have already proven that they can claw through concrete vaults and six feet of dirt?
Stop a zombie with a chain link fence? They just dug their way out of 6 feet of earth, a spanial can dig under a fence, I don't think a zombie would have much problem.
Mobility is the key here. Stay on the move until patterns of zombie movement may be discerned. Those that castle are doomed, doomed I say!
Also consider the local school. The Elementary, middle, and High School closest to my house all are completely fenced in with tall chain-link fencing. Schools are no longer built with large open windows and the doors are pretty secure to prevent weekend looters and the like. The random dead aren't going to be wandering through and if any decide to climb the fence your patrol (have you already linked up with your local Zombie-Apoc group meeting and made plans?) should be able to get there and put an arrow/spear/length of rebar into him mid-climb. Save the ammo for when you really need it..plus the shot mat attract more dead to your area (like in Walking Dead). School cafeterias contain "institutional food." Food in large quantity containers easy to prepare with basic nutritional value. In Cali our schools are required to keep enough food/water on hand to supply every student for 3 days in the event an emergency (earthquake) seperates the family. 3 days of food for hundreds (if not a thousand) mouths. Plenty for a group of 10-25. In addition most schools have solar PV on the roofs. Coupled with the batteries from all the cars laying about your pretty set on basic electricity for the next 5+ years. Swamp cooler type AC units have the nice by-product of a quart of water per hour that is better than what comes out of your tap. Schools also have large flat grassy areas perfect to use for crops for long term once the cafeteria food is used up. Those crops will also attract plenty of rabbits, squirrels, raccons, etc. If your real lucky your local school already has some rabbits and maybe chickens from the science or 4H groups. Set up pens and coups and let nature take its course. Within a year your going to be sick of rabbit meat and eggs every day.
As a last ditch defense the roofs can be accessed by pull up ladders inside each building used by the maintenance guys.
Cougar from Colchester barracks if they are kind enough to leave keys lying about.
If it the same type of Cougars used in Afghanistan....no keys....press and hold the button/switch to turn over....make sure you flip the battery switch to "on" though...its near the battery box located behind the driver seat
Given that zombies are a scientific impossiblity (as they are described in popular fiction) then there isn't much point worrying about it.
If you must then fast zombies will eat you eventually, you basically can't outrun them in any number.
Against the traditional slow zombies your first port of call should be a motorbike shop to kit yourself out in a nice biteproof suit of bikers leathers and after that somewhere that sells gardening supplies, or a well stocked garden shed, for a billhook so that you can keep the dearly departed at arms length. Food won't be an issue in the early days but you will want to move to the coast eventually so that you can comfortably subsist on shellfish which are very easy to harvest.
Palindrome wrote:Given that zombies are a scientific impossiblity (as they are described in popular fiction) then there isn't much point worrying about it.
If you must then fast zombies will eat you eventually, you basically can't outrun them in any number.
Against the traditional slow zombies your first port of call should be a motorbike shop to kit yourself out in a nice biteproof suit of bikers leathers and after that somewhere that sells gardening supplies, or a well stocked garden shed, for a billhook so that you can keep the dearly departed at arms length. Food won't be an issue in the early days but you will want to move to the coast eventually so that you can comfortably subsist on shellfish which are very easy to harvest.
THAT argument is ended with 28days later, "zombies" People just use zombies as the general meaning of whatever zombie fits. Otherwise spot on
I keep trying to convince the wife to buy a n abandoned missile silo and turn it into our house/fortress of F.U.! but she keeps turning the idea down...........women
Palindrome wrote:Given that zombies are a scientific impossiblity (as they are described in popular fiction) then there isn't much point worrying about it.
Rabies. I bet you've never seen what happens to something when it's in the late-stages of a Lyssavirus, but there's a reason the myth of werewolves was formed from it.
Beyond that, there are numerous parasites that cause the host-body (usually insects) to become hyper-aggressive towards its own species as a method of replicating and spreading itself. It is not impossible for parasites to adapt to other animals.
PCP also causes feelings of numbness and intoxication (it was originally created as a medical anesthetic) as well as paranoia, hallucinations and uncontrollable rage. These are not common effects and are usually the result of pre-existing aggression problems, but it's still a possibility.
Palindrome wrote:Given that zombies are a scientific impossiblity (as they are described in popular fiction) then there isn't much point worrying about it.
Rabies. I bet you've never seen what happens to something when it's in the late-stages of a Lyssavirus, but there's a reason the myth of werewolves was formed from it.
Beyond that, there are numerous parasites that cause the host-body (usually insects) to become hyper-aggressive towards its own species as a method of replicating and spreading itself. It is not impossible for parasites to adapt to other animals.
PCP also causes feelings of numbness and intoxication (it was originally created as a medical anesthetic) as well as paranoia, hallucinations and uncontrollable rage. These are not common effects and are usually the result of pre-existing aggression problems, but it's still a possibility.
As I said the hollywood representation is an impossiblity, 'Zombie' like states can occur but they are nothing like the popular culture concept of a zombie. The 'Rage' virus in 28 days later was a Hollywood maguffin, something like that won't happen in the real world. To be honest the most plausable reason that I have seen in a film is in David Cronenbergs Shivers, basically parasites designed specifically to remove higher brain function, but plausable is a relative term.
Me? A combine harvester-i live near myerscough college were they have tractors combines large farming implements and double barrel shotguns with insane amounts of shells. Pick up my freinds who live localy then on to myerscough to pick up said combine and some tractors with trailers. Fortify said trailers as well as grabbing guns farming implements fuel etc..... Then on to grab more supplys from preston before heading up to fleetwood picking up other freinds on my way and finaly arriving at a freinds who lives opposite a brick factory and who has 4 double barreled shotguns and possibly a hunting rifle. Raid a military base and get a couple of tanks and APCs...... Bobs your uncle and Fannys your aunt.
Armoured vehicles require a massive amount of fuel and are frankly overkill, a civilian 4x4 with sheet steelcovering the windows is all that you would require and would be a lot more fuel efficent. Military bases would be a really bad place to go, becasue thats where everyone would go and if all the soliders have somehow been killed there would A be no ammo left and B a vast quantity of zombies wandering around. There is also the issue of maintaining military equipment, if you don't know how to look after it it will break.
Also to add to it, you have to remember people can be jerks. Guess what the jerks will do when they move into an empty military base? Hint, it may involve looting your corpse.
Yea thats one element that seems to go un talked about during these discussions, the survivors. Specially just after the gak hit the fan, and we are all settling in to the new world, people will probably be worse then the zombies. Either be a ghost in that world, or gang up quick
KingCracker wrote:Yea thats one element that seems to go un talked about during these discussions, the survivors. Specially just after the gak hit the fan, and we are all settling in to the new world, people will probably be worse then the zombies. Either be a ghost in that world, or gang up quick
People tend to help each other in disaster situations, this is especially true if co-operation will obviously increase the chance of survival. If resources, particularly food, are scarce then people will be more likely to look out for themselves but I would expect that banditry won't be as common as people seem to think.
Yes, but you still cannot simply assume either way. People will form groups. Their experiences, and possibly the mental stability of their leadership, will determine if they would be approachable or not.
I was thinking a bus would be a good mode of transport. Large capacity for fellow survivors, buddies, family, squeezes, and equipment, combined with plenty of mass for grinding zombies to a fleshy pulp. Also, if needs arise you can open or smash the windows for an all round field of fire.
Or a bulldozer, because bulldozers are fething awesome.
KingCracker wrote:THAT argument is ended with 28days later, "zombies" People just use zombies as the general meaning of whatever zombie fits. Otherwise spot on
Except the 'zombies' don't attack each other and seem to not need food or water(unless I missed something).
Corpsesarefun wrote:In 28 days later they can die of dehydration or starvation and many animals can tell if something is diseased or not.
As far as not attacking each other, my point was if they're so rage-induced, you would think them attacking one another would be an inevitability. Hell, maybe infected individuals would just loose it completely and bash their head against a wall...problem solved :p
Time to get a shotgun and katana, maybe a few grenades, to add to the bow. Getting to be a decent shot with that at head-sized targets No, I haven't shot at any heads...
The first thing that I would do would to be find two to three people that you trust the most, although if they've been eaten then I would have to go solo.
Get some sort of off road car, preferably with bull bars and get to your nearest Harry Tuffins where you can loot a variety of 'tools' that look very much like the subject of a murder trial, such as a scythe, an obscenely oversized axe, and my personal favourite, the billhook-on-a-pole. Another thing that Harry Tuffins is great for is outdoor survival equipment, so make sure to stock up.
Make sure that you have plenty of fuel for your vehicle, as running out would be dangerous. You should head north, making sure to, roughly, be near a river, for both water and to run through if you run out of fuel. It may seem odd, but if the zombies can smell you from far away then this may mask your scent for a while, but then you do have the disadvantage of being soaking wet and freezing.
As you head across the border to Scotland, make sure to pass by a mine. A map would be handy, and my reasoning for going to a mine will become clear shortly.
Mines are great sources of fuel, and so should be great places to get supplies. The main thng that you should get from here is the blast powder that they use to break chunks of wall. Get as much as possible. You will need a lot, though, so if you have already abandoned your mode of transport liberate a bigger, better one. You don't want to enter the mine alone, however, as you may get mobbed by zombies and then it's game over.
Continue north through the Grampians and head towards a town named Elgin. Around this town many whiskey distilleries are situated in small, quiet locations. It will be advisable to horde as much whiskey as possible so you can drink away your sorrows later.
Then you need to head west, towards the Isle of Skye. The Orkneys are another option, but Skye is preferable as it is closer to many arable farms which will provide food for many years to come. Now you should cross the toll bridge, making sure to smash through the barriers as there isn't really a point in paying now that the world is ruined. Find a nice house on the Island and clear the surrounding area of any locals that may have been zombified.
Take a fishing boat and your blast powder to the bridge support closest to the mainland, there are only two, so this should be easy, and pack the blasting powder around the base of the support. Take your boat away and light the fuse.
Enjoy the boom.
Seeing as I don't know how well the powder will fare against the bridge, you may have to improvise and find another way of cutting yourself off.
Fortify your house and live happily for a while.
I would make sure to inspect anybody that I allowed o travel with me for scratches and bites, however, as not to compromise myself.
That's how I'd do it, as in the winter the surrounding area would become harsh, freezing any zombies solid. After a couple of years they should have died out, so I would move to a bigger city, or at least loot it.
Not like I've thought about this before...
Oh, and don't set fire to the zombies. Then you have flaming zombies.
Actually, I work for a company that has winnebagos-we can build rams on the front and go wild. Hehe. I already told my boss we were well prepared for the apocalypse. He was amused...
Another outside the box thought on food. School cafeteria's. Why try to blow the bridge and maybe yourself up? I messed around with detcord and C4 but I'm not a expert. I avoid blowing the support itself and pack inbetween the supports at the narrowest point
My plan is this: get to 'Merica. Find fortress Dakka. Problem solved.
Actually, I'll be looking at using a baseball bat for personal defence, hopefully finding some way to the mainland, then finding some sort of civilisation/ group and hanging with them until the end. I'll probably die before I'm even off the island, but I might make it. I don't think the Isle of Wight actually has any firearms on it at all.
n0t_u wrote:A crowbar would be useful as it doubles as a tool, and would probably see more use as such.
Gordon Freeman approves.
KingCracker wrote:I keep trying to convince the wife to buy a n abandoned missile silo and turn it into our house/fortress of F.U.! but she keeps turning the idea down...........women
Really? My wife is actually quite fond of the idea...
I'm kinda surprised that nobody suggested utilizing a copy of the anarchist's cookbook, poor man's james bond, etc. Quite the plethora of useful information.
TBH, even though this is england and guns aren't available in massive quantities, a military base isn't necessary for one. So long as you can rely on a car to drive you, say, 50 miles, and you know where to go, you should be able to reach a gun shop. For example, I know that about 5 miles away from my house is a gun shop that I could get to and get a gun. And as soon as you have a gun...
Need I say more?
p_gray99 wrote:TBH, even though this is england and guns aren't available in massive quantities, a military base isn't necessary for one. So long as you can rely on a car to drive you, say, 50 miles, and you know where to go, you should be able to reach a gun shop. For example, I know that about 5 miles away from my house is a gun shop that I could get to and get a gun. And as soon as you have a gun...
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Do you have the tools necessary to break into a gun shop readily available? Have you ever fired a gun and taken one down for maintenance?
While it is true that the majority of TAC is outdated, there are still a number of useful articles on making tripwires, pressure plate switches, pipe bombs, etc. Handy things to know when trying to keep slow-walkers out of certain areas.
p_gray99 wrote:TBH, even though this is england and guns aren't available in massive quantities, a military base isn't necessary for one. So long as you can rely on a car to drive you, say, 50 miles, and you know where to go, you should be able to reach a gun shop. For example, I know that about 5 miles away from my house is a gun shop that I could get to and get a gun. And as soon as you have a gun...
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Gun shops are also in populated areas, exactly the type of place to avoid. The best place to get firearms are farmhouses/gamekeeper's lodges but they are unlikely to have much ammo and ho be honest they make too much noise anyway. If you don't know how to use a firearm it would be safer without one (do you know how to zero a rifle? Clean it?).
I think it's time to also go out and get a bat and a lot of large nails, hammer them through and make a killer (pun intended) morning star. Two handed if you need to swing hard, one handed strikes from a motorcycle are possible too. These always seem to work well in zombie movies...
p_gray99 wrote:TBH, even though this is england and guns aren't available in massive quantities, a military base isn't necessary for one. So long as you can rely on a car to drive you, say, 50 miles, and you know where to go, you should be able to reach a gun shop. For example, I know that about 5 miles away from my house is a gun shop that I could get to and get a gun. And as soon as you have a gun...
Need I say more?
Riiiight. You and probably half the people that know about that gun shop. Not to mention, most gunshops are privately owned, so Im sure youd have to convince the store owner to give up his supply. Thats a really bad idea. Again, the people alone that are trying the same thing will end up causing more harm then the Zeds would
n0t_u wrote:A crowbar would be useful as it doubles as a tool, and would probably see more use as such.
Fire axe. It's a far more effective weapon, and doubles as a pry-bar. Less weight to carry, too.
KingCracker wrote:I keep trying to convince the wife to buy a n abandoned missile silo and turn it into our house/fortress of F.U.! but she keeps turning the idea down...........women
My s/o loves the idea. Sadly, there are no silos on the West coast...
I'm kinda surprised that nobody suggested utilizing a copy of the anarchist's cookbook, poor man's james bond, etc. Quite the plethora of useful information.
That thing is so outdated that all it contains nowadays are recipes for disappointment.
No one seems to have mentioned any of the IWM system. Any of the Imperial War Museum locations will have plenty of nice weapons for head thumping. Again unless you have experience with fire arms, I suggest staying to blunt instruments. Halberds and pikes would come in handy, plenty of maces &etc... Or get to Duxford, teach yourself how to fly and just Arthur Harris them to bits using the BBF Lancaster...
Awww MAN I found the perfect bunker for when the gak hits the fan yesterday. My family went with my brother the Giants family to the beach and just hung out for the day. Well about 15 minutes from my house, we were driving down a backroad to some park, and there it was in the middle of no where. A building, totally fenced in AND had razor wire on the top, Id say about 15 foot fence. The building was probably 20ish foot high, so about a story and a half, no windows save for the ones ALL the way at the top. Made completely of brick and steel doors. There was even a ladder that went to the roof FROM THE INSIDE! Best part of all, it looked like a treatment plant for the nearby stream. So we would have flowing water into this building as well. Best part is, while walking around the park, we found a mostly hidden manhole cover a good 500ish feet from that building. So we would even have a nice escape hatch if things really got harry. Its perfect lads.....its perfect.
KingCracker wrote:Awww MAN I found the perfect bunker for when the gak hits the fan yesterday. My family went with my brother the Giants family to the beach and just hung out for the day. Well about 15 minutes from my house, we were driving down a backroad to some park, and there it was in the middle of no where. A building, totally fenced in AND had razor wire on the top, Id say about 15 foot fence. The building was probably 20ish foot high, so about a story and a half, no windows save for the ones ALL the way at the top. Made completely of brick and steel doors. There was even a ladder that went to the roof FROM THE INSIDE! Best part of all, it looked like a treatment plant for the nearby stream. So we would have flowing water into this building as well. Best part is, while walking around the park, we found a mostly hidden manhole cover a good 500ish feet from that building. So we would even have a nice escape hatch if things really got harry. Its perfect lads.....its perfect.
If it starts to look bad, I will begin to make my way north then. I will bring a home brew beer kit so we can always have sterile water to drink, and food, as well as plenty of vegetable seeds... And my SM army. We can play 5th or 6th... I'm ok with both
HHmmmm Here at Bremerton...I've USS Independence....Ranger...Stennis...Constellation...all four aircraft carriers...moored right by each other and near the gate for easy access....
Go to a garden centre and by a load of bamboo cane. Sharpen them into stakes and fortify your house.
Buy some cheap replica swords most are £50-£150, they're nit as good as a real thing but better than nothing.
Gardening tools will work, rake hedge trimmer and broom.handle if it comes to that.
Bread knives are long enough to get a zombie or someother long knives will work.
Air rifles are pretty painfull, get a zombie in the eye, its down.
I know loads of places to hide and places to weapons, I once lived in a castle (there was a campsite around it and one flat in the castle i lived there) at the castle is isolated and is easy to lock up I'd hold out there myself if all else fail flee to Scotland there is an old nuclear bunker there just for tourists now.
I figure going to a military base in a fairly secluded area would be a good deal-no big town, means not many undead. Military base means lots of guns and trained soldiers. In the movies you see where the survivors get saved from the jaws of death, it's often the military coming in. I know the perfect base to go to, should this come to pass...glad my job gives me ample opportunity to plan for this.
Um....soldiers didn't do so well against alien requiem...have to remember something about a military base...there's the built up area where barracks, office, units, and what have you are located at and then you have the back 40 where its training area....also the ammo bunkers..
KingCracker wrote:Awww MAN I found the perfect bunker for when the gak hits the fan yesterday. My family went with my brother the Giants family to the beach and just hung out for the day. Well about 15 minutes from my house, we were driving down a backroad to some park, and there it was in the middle of no where. A building, totally fenced in AND had razor wire on the top, Id say about 15 foot fence. The building was probably 20ish foot high, so about a story and a half, no windows save for the ones ALL the way at the top. Made completely of brick and steel doors. There was even a ladder that went to the roof FROM THE INSIDE! Best part of all, it looked like a treatment plant for the nearby stream. So we would have flowing water into this building as well. Best part is, while walking around the park, we found a mostly hidden manhole cover a good 500ish feet from that building. So we would even have a nice escape hatch if things really got harry. Its perfect lads.....its perfect.
If it starts to look bad, I will begin to make my way north then. I will bring a home brew beer kit so we can always have sterile water to drink, and food, as well as plenty of vegetable seeds... And my SM army. We can play 5th or 6th... I'm ok with both
