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On the eve of Mitt Romney's arrival in London, one of his advisers made a remark that The Telegraph says "may prompt accusations of racial insensitivity."
That's a fair assessment. When explaining why Romney would have a better grasp of the relationship between the United States and the U.K., the adviser had this to say—

"We are part of an Anglo-Saxon heritage, and he feels that the special relationship is special. The White House didn't fully appreciate the shared history we have.

Obama, of course, has a different heritage, as his father was African."

This is only the latest dig at Obama's heritage by the Romney campaign.

Last week, Romney campaign co-chair John Sununu said Obama "has no idea how the American system functions, and we shouldn't be surprised about that, because he spent his early years in Hawaii smoking something, spent the next set of years in Indonesia, another set of years in Indonesia..."

Sununu later added, "I wish this President would learn how to be an American."

Other than Nick Griffon and his cronies in the fringe fascist BNP party, I'm not sure anyone else in Britain would have been impressed with this nonsense.

The race card. Because it always ends well.

And what kind of a name is Sununu?

LordofHats wrote:The race card. Because it always ends well.

And what kind of a name is Sununu?

It would be a Turkish name...

because he spent his early years in Hawaii smoking something,

No wonder him and Dave get on so well.

I guess he could have spent his time dressing up as a police officer instead...

Yeah, for a nation founded on immigration you have to wonder about these people...

SilverMK2 wrote:Yeah, for a nation founded on immigration you have to wonder about these people...

Not sure if your talking about the US or UK here, that statement is pretty accurate for both

Corpsesarefun wrote:

SilverMK2 wrote:Yeah, for a nation founded on immigration you have to wonder about these people...

Not sure if your talking about the US or UK here, that statement is pretty accurate for both

It was aimed towards the US, but to an extent the UK as well

Did the adviser really say: ""He feels that the special relationship is special."

What the hell is this? LOLPrez?

How can a man representing a Mormon claim some common culture with the government of Britain?

SilverMK2 wrote:Yeah, for a nation founded on immigration you have to wonder about these people...

Founded on the immigration of primarily what people?

Manchu wrote:How can a man representing a Mormon claim some common culture with the government of Britain?

By being flying rodent gak crazy?

Luco wrote:

SilverMK2 wrote:Yeah, for a nation founded on immigration you have to wonder about these people...

Founded on the immigration of primarily what people?

White Europeans. (excluding Eastern Europeans)

Why is Romney coming to London?

Anglo-Saxon is a culture, it has nothing to do with ethnicity. It is synonmous with "English" in all senses.

Romney is a moron.

I have a question. How does one "Be american"
Because from the sound of it, romney thinks the only way to be american is to be white

"Be American" can only be white. Seriously......you actually think Romney thinks that?

Do you deny that historically the US and the UK have had a special relationship?

Do you deny that that special relationship still exists or should?

If the answer is No then its shut up time. If its yes then you probably wouldn't have voted for Romney anyway.

Historically yes...
Recently the US doesn't seem to be reciprocating all that much...

hotsauceman1 wrote:I have a question. How does one "Be american"
Because from the sound of it, romney thinks the only way to be american is to be white

By owning lots of guns, making wild assumptions based on partially read, usually biased reports, probobly posted on Facebook, only caring about issues that effect you directly, eating lots of fast food, and of course having a massive superiority complex? Oh and pronouncing America without the A.

Follow these steps and you too can be like an American

And before the flame war starts the above is a joke, although for the majority of Americans, partially true...

purplefood wrote:Historically yes...
Recently the US doesn't seem to be reciprocating all that much...

EDIT: Lets try that again. Thats Romney's point. Not sure what one of his flunkies said in or out of context.

By owning lots of guns, making wild assumptions based on partially read, usually biased reports, probobly posted on Facebook, only caring about issues that effect you directly, eating lots of fast food, and of course having a massive superiority complex? Oh and pronouncing America without the A.

By owning lots of guns,
Yes I own a weapons...five types consider a lot? Three are mine and the other two my wife

making wild assumptions based on partially read, usually biased reports
Occasionaly I have done the insert foot into mouth about posting a statement

, probobly posted on Facebook
I usaully check for facebook messages from friends once a month. I don't live and die by it nor do I care everyone knowing what I'm doing

caring about issues that effect you directly
Yes and No

eating lots of fast food
Nope. Don't do fast food....nor soda

course having a massive superiority complex
Only when the wife allows it

pronouncing America without the A
Actually I was in school when the education system was good compare to todays system and allows the "PADDLE" with holes that grips the cheek when hit

Holy Hell....I'm in the privilige caste..

Jihadin wrote:"Be American" can only be white. Seriously......you actually think Romney thinks that?

I kinda get that from the article. He says he is african and doesnt appreciate the anglo-saxion heritage because he is african

Dude I remember those paddles. Yikes.

Frazzled wrote:

purplefood wrote:Historically yes...
Recently the US doesn't seem to be reciprocating all that much...

EDIT: Lets try that again. Thats Romney's point. Not sure what one of his flunkies said in or out of context.

His flunky says Obama doesn't understand the UK because he lacks an Anglo-Saxon heritage...
I don't think he has much of a point really.

Didn't Obama claim his dad or grandfather or some nonsense was tortured by the British? That would explain a lot.

Show us the elementary school transcripts Mr. President!

Jihadin wrote:

By owning lots of guns, making wild assumptions based on partially read, usually biased reports, probobly posted on Facebook, only caring about issues that effect you directly, eating lots of fast food, and of course having a massive superiority complex? Oh and pronouncing America without the A.

By owning lots of guns,
Yes I own a weapons...five types consider a lot? Three are mine and the other two my wife

making wild assumptions based on partially read, usually biased reports
Occasionaly I have done the insert foot into mouth about posting a statement

, probobly posted on Facebook
I usaully check for facebook messages from friends once a month. I don't live and die by it nor do I care everyone knowing what I'm doing

caring about issues that effect you directly
Yes and No

eating lots of fast food
Nope. Don't do fast food....nor soda

course having a massive superiority complex
Only when the wife allows it

pronouncing America without the A
Actually I was in school when the education system was good compare compare to todays system and allows the "PADDLE" with holes that grips the cheek when hit

Holy Hell....I'm in the privilige caste..

Your America Fu is weak grasshopper lol. I remember when I was in elementary school and got paddled a few times, did me good I think..

My post above that you responded to was also pretty American, making assumptions about a group of people based on what you read on the internet or hear on the news, and then restating them as fact! Damn I am a good American!

In all seriousness, I would hate to be a politician or within 50 feet of one during election time, everything you say is turned in some manner to make you look bad, and 9 times out of 10 is taken out of context to serve someone else's political means.

Candidate: I saved a little white puppy today from the maws of a giant alligator!
Opposing party/news program headline: "Candidate says he hates black puppies and would feed them to alligators!"

We are part of an Anglo-Saxon heritage, and he feels that the special relationship is special. The White House didn't fully appreciate the shared history we have.

Obama, of course, has a different heritage, as his father was African."

I'm going to go with two different heritage has different view/perception ,in general. world at large.

Like Ironwardog says
That comment getting raked over the coals by the otherside

IronWarLeg wrote:

In all seriousness, I would hate to be a politician or within 50 feet of one during election time, everything you say is turned in some manner to make you look bad, and 9 times out of 10 is taken out of context to serve someone else's political means.

Candidate: I saved a little white puppy today from the maws of a giant alligator!
Opposing party/news program headline: "Candidate says he hates black puppies and would feed them to alligators!"

Canidate's advisor: I like Emperor Palpatine, he is my favorite villain.
News the next day: The Canidate wants to institute an empire ruled ith an lightning fist

hotsauceman1 wrote:

IronWarLeg wrote:

In all seriousness, I would hate to be a politician or within 50 feet of one during election time, everything you say is turned in some manner to make you look bad, and 9 times out of 10 is taken out of context to serve someone else's political means.

Candidate: I saved a little white puppy today from the maws of a giant alligator!
Opposing party/news program headline: "Candidate says he hates black puppies and would feed them to alligators!"

Canidate's advisor: I like Emperor Palpatine, he is my favorite villain.
News the next day: The Canidate wants to institute an empire ruled ith an lightning fist

Adviser: "I like the colour blue"
News: "Candidate hates everything apart from the colour blue!"

hotsauceman1 wrote:

IronWarLeg wrote:

In all seriousness, I would hate to be a politician or within 50 feet of one during election time, everything you say is turned in some manner to make you look bad, and 9 times out of 10 is taken out of context to serve someone else's political means.

Candidate: I saved a little white puppy today from the maws of a giant alligator!
Opposing party/news program headline: "Candidate says he hates black puppies and would feed them to alligators!"

Canidate's advisor: I like Emperor Palpatine, he is my favorite villain.
News the next day: The Canidate wants to institute an empire ruled ith an lightning fist

Yeah, followed next day by the accused party headline of:

"Opposing party wants to form rebel alliance and lead a campaign of terror and guerilla attacks!"

Of course there's a subtext to those remarks.

Same as when Reagan said he supported "states' rights" when campaigning in Mississippi.

In the coming months, look for how Obama and company will position Romney as "weird," with an obvious subtext about his Mormon beliefs.

Wait.... I just noticed something.

President Obama is not white!

Just finally getting colored television or something E?

Whatever way you look at it, the choice of Romney or Obama makes for sorry reading. If Reagan's corpse was wheeled out for the election, he would probably speak more sense, and do a better job than those two!

In my lifetime I've seen some grim times in American politics: Jimmy Carter's inaugaration speech, Hilary Clinton's hairdo, Michelle Bachmann starting a political advert by saying she is not a witch.... I could go on, but never before have I seen such insipid and uninspiring candidates. At least GW Bush had a past drink problem, and It was fun wondering if he would do a Boris Yeltsin whilst in office, but these guys are just dull.

LordofHats wrote:
And what kind of a name is Sununu?

In this case? Palestinian.

Mr. Sununu's father grew up in Palestinian Jerusalem, and his mother was an ethnic Greek born in El Salavador. Mr. Sununu himself was born in Cuba, though long before Castro's takeover.

Seeing as Mr. Sununu's father clearly had ties to the PLO, I find it absolutely disgraceful that Candidate Romney would take such a risk in exposing himself to the insidious Muslim takeover of our government.

Luco wrote:
Founded on the immigration of primarily what people?

The British, the Spanish, and the French. With a fair bit of the Dutch for flavor.

There's more to the country than the East Coast you know.

Irish let not forget about the irish

And various countries in Africa.

Jihadin wrote:Just finally getting colored television or something E?

1. 'Colored'!? You racist!
2. I think you can tell black from white on a black and white television.

Black and white TV at that time also had rabbit antenna's

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:Whatever way you look at it, the choice of Romney or Obama makes for sorry reading. If Reagan's corpse was wheeled out for the election, he would probably speak more sense, and do a better job than those two!

In my lifetime I've seen some grim times in American politics: Jimmy Carter's inaugaration speech, Hilary Clinton's hairdo, Michelle Bachmann starting a political advert by saying she is not a witch.... I could go on, but never before have I seen such insipid and uninspiring candidates. At least GW Bush had a past drink problem, and It was fun wondering if he would do a Boris Yeltsin whilst in office, but these guys are just dull.

Agreed, Right now it seems who can make our handbasket more pretty when we go to hell

Easy E wrote:Wait.... I just noticed something.

President Obama is not white!

Woah.
Woah dude.
You just blew my mind.

Hotsauce...we're not going to Hell...we're going to rebuild America. Here's a spare weapon and help protect the town we're in. We rebuild town by town. If the gov't comes out of hiding either Obama or Romney and try to be in charge we just hand them their pink slip and to go elsewhere

Racism knows no national borders.

Obama lived in another country from the ages of 3-10. He's been living in America for more than forty years, since before he hit puberty. The idea that he has any lack of understanding of the American culture is one of the stupidest things I've even read from Sununu; and I'm from New Hampshire. I wish he would learn to be a decent human being. Failing that, he can keep working for Romney.

Jihadin wrote:"Be American" can only be white. Seriously......you actually think Romney thinks that?

I doubt that Romney is a serious racist. That being said, I would not be at all shocked or surprised if he grew up among a lot of racists, and would be able to comfortably pander to racists. To quote Brigham Young: "You must not think, from what I say, that I am opposed to slavery. No! The negro is damned, and is to serve his master till God chooses to remove the curse of Ham..."

The LDS church only allowed Black men to become priesthood holders (that is, adult male members of the church) in 1978. Romney was 29 or 30 years old when that happened. The church he grew up in did not allow black people to be equal members, based purely on their race.

Jihadin wrote:Hotsauce...we're not going to Hell...we're going to rebuild America. Here's a spare weapon and help protect the town we're in. We rebuild town by town. If the gov't comes out of hiding either Obama or Romney and try to be in charge we just hand them their pink slip and to go elsewhere

But that requires work. And the hand basket is padded.

Here's an inflatable donut for you sit on as you gaurd

Since he mentions America's connection with Anglo-Saxon heritage, does that mean that he believes a president of Slavic, Irish, Scottish, Welsh, Italian, etc descent would not be able to "fully appreciate" America's relationship with the UK (even though the Welsh and Scottish and some of the Irish (thorny subject, I suppose) are also part of the UK)?

Not even going to dignify Sununu's nonsensical "HURR OBUMMER AIN'T GOT NO UNDERSTANDIN' OF 'MURIKA" drivel with a response.

Hell, if I'm not mistaken, at this point the majority of Americans are not of Anglo-Saxon Heritage. A very significant number are, but there are a lot more non-Anglo-Saxon Americans.

Is it time to bring back the term WASP? Haven't heard it in a while when it comes to political office.

I do realize that the person that said this might not have a racist bone in their body. But sometimes it is almost as bad when a person says something like this and doesn't realize or understand why it is offensive. That just shows how out of touch somebody can be.

Mannahnin wrote:The LDS church only allowed Black men to become priesthood holders (that is, adult male members of the church) in 1978. Romney was 29 or 30 years old when that happened. The church he grew up in did not allow black people to be equal members, based purely on their race.

They also are probably frothing at the mouth shouting about Revelations, the least relevant book of the New Testament.

Blacks in the LDS are still not equal members regardless of any policy changes. The doctrine and scriptures have not changed and they are still considered a cursed race.

They're also sexist as well.

Sexism promoted by a church is still sexism.

Amaya wrote:Blacks in the LDS are still not equal members regardless of any policy changes. The doctrine and scriptures have not changed and they are still considered a cursed race.

My friend once asked why there are black people to his mom in the the car(not understanding the concept of race) And she recount the story of Cain and Able where Cain murdered able and he was cursed with dark skin. Even back then i realized that there was something wrong with that being an idea.

Melissia wrote:They're also sexist as well.

Sexism promoted by a church is still sexism.

Yep, which is why I will never vote for Romney. America is about inclusiveness not racism and sexism.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:http://gawker.com/5928827/romney-adviser-president-obama-doesnt-fully-appreciate-our-anglo+saxon-heritage?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow\

On the eve of Mitt Romney's arrival in London, one of his advisers made a remark that The Telegraph says "may prompt accusations of racial insensitivity."
That's a fair assessment. When explaining why Romney would have a better grasp of the relationship between the United States and the U.K., the adviser had this to say—

"We are part of an Anglo-Saxon heritage, and he feels that the special relationship is special. The White House didn't fully appreciate the shared history we have.

Obama, of course, has a different heritage, as his father was African."

This is only the latest dig at Obama's heritage by the Romney campaign.

Last week, Romney campaign co-chair John Sununu said Obama "has no idea how the American system functions, and we shouldn't be surprised about that, because he spent his early years in Hawaii smoking something, spent the next set of years in Indonesia, another set of years in Indonesia..."

Sununu later added, "I wish this President would learn how to be an American."

Other than Nick Griffon and his cronies in the fringe fascist BNP party, I'm not sure anyone else in Britain would have been impressed with this nonsense.

Its not in the Gawkers interest to report what Romney's advisers said unembellished. To some extent this is their fault, spinsters ought to remember, perpetually, that is something can be taken out of context by one side or the other for partisan gain, it will.
Its not like Obamas advisors dont have to run the same gauntlet, they are just doing so better.

Orlanth wrote:
Its not in the Gawkers interest to report what Romney's advisers said unembellished. To some extent this is their fault, spinsters ought to remember, perpetually, that is something can be taken out of context by one side or the other for partisan gain, it will.

The first sentence in the Gawker article attributes the quote to "The Telegraph". Two seconds of Google searching reveals the original source to be The Daily Telegraph.

purplefood wrote:Why is Romney coming to London?

To increase his foreign policy experience.

Have to say it looks like time well spent, as comments like the one from his staffer in the OP proves his team needs the experience, rather badly.


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Jihadin wrote:"Be American" can only be white. Seriously......you actually think Romney thinks that?

I doubt he really thinks like that, he's probably just trying to have his team play dog whistles for the potential voters who are racist.

It's just that sounding dog whistles is a tricky game, and an easy one to screw up. When it is screwed up, you end up sounding stupid and racist, like this Romney staffer.


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Frazzled wrote:Do you deny that historically the US and the UK have had a special relationship?

Do you deny that that special relationship still exists or should?

I know you really, really want to defend Romney, but that really shouldn't come at the expense of reading. The point in dispute here is not that there is, or isn't a special relationship, but that the special relationship is somehow better maintained by a person with less melanin in their skin.


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Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:Michelle Bachmann starting a political advert by saying she is not a witch....

That was Christine O'Donnell.

I could go on, but never before have I seen such insipid and uninspiring candidates.

You seriously think this is a less inspiring duo than Bush & Kerry?


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dogma wrote:The first sentence in the Gawker article attributes the quote to "The Telegraph". Two seconds of Google searching reveals the original source to be The Daily Telegraph.

The writer of that article wrote 'the Nato alliance'. Nato.

I mean, I know there's cost cutting across newspapers and standards have to slip a little, but for feth's sake, it isn't like NATO is an obscure thing.

Guessing this might be a gaff, perhaps he meant that he would focus on relations with the UK instead of other countries in the world. He was in the UK so of course he's going to play to the home crowd, have you ever been to a concert and had the band say another city was better than the one they were playing in?

American History:
1565- Spanish found Fort Augustine in St. Augustine
1605- French move to Port Royal after Saint Croix Island is abandoned.
1607- Jamestown(first permanent English settlement founded)
1614- New Netherland founded under Dutch
1619- First Africans arrive to North American colonies(30 arrive by accident, worked with other indentured servants and some gained freedom and later owned slaves)
1629- Scottish found Nova-Scotia
1638- Swedes found New Sweden
1640- At least one African sentenced to slavery
1654- First legally recognized slave
1784- First permanent Russian settlement in Alaska

Really good stuff all of this history, although one thing that can be gathered from American history is that people of British and Anglo-descent are really good at taking over land. They beat the French in a series of wars to take a good bit of French colonial territory and eventually took over the Spanish held areas on the mainland.

All candidates have faults and when it comes to religion that's all a choice. I recall a certain Reverend Jeremiah Wright who was a certain current president's spiritual leader by choice until election time. By the way the "Audacity of Hope" slogan came from the same pastor.

I don't know how to take this exactly, except to say thank God we're not a theocracy.

Frazzled wrote:Do you deny that historically the US and the UK have had a special relationship?

Do you deny that that special relationship still exists or should?

If the answer is No then its shut up time. If its yes then you probably wouldn't have voted for Romney anyway.

Way to glaze over all the racism, Frazz.

sebster wrote:
The writer of that article wrote 'the Nato alliance'. Nato.

I mean, I know there's cost cutting across newspapers and standards have to slip a little, but for feth's sake, it isn't like NATO is an obscure thing.

I mean, its also important to note that Gawker is basically just a crappy TMZ.

Their top story?

A Revised Hierarchy of Jackson Family Craziness.

halonachos wrote:Guessing this might be a gaff, perhaps he meant that he would focus on relations with the UK instead of other countries in the world. He was in the UK so of course he's going to play to the home crowd, have you ever been to a concert and had the band say another city was better than the one they were playing in?

Like it's already been explained to Fraz, the problem isn't with talking about the special relationship. That stuff isn't just for the British audience, it plays really well with a lot of the American audience (which is exactly who they're really talking to, what with the election and everything).

The point is the aide saying the special relationship will be healthier under Romney, because the other guy is black.

Do you get that now?

Luco wrote:

SilverMK2 wrote:Yeah, for a nation founded on immigration you have to wonder about these people...

Founded on the immigration of primarily what people?

Native Americans

Though America may have been founded on white migration from all over europe, you have a very heavily mixed population, most notably black, but also chinese/japanese, latino, etc...

I'd go so far as to speculate that the US has one of the highest black populations outside of Africa itself. To deny that influence on American culture doesn't make sense. Nor does it make sense for a nation which only exists because people immigrated from elsewhere to try and say 'you were not one of the awesome cool original immigrants so shut up!' Is pretty silly... Neither is anyone else alive today, or for a coupple of hundred years - everyone is American, no matter the colour of their skin.

Being a rich and powerful male, Obama is more American than most

purplefood wrote:Why is Romney coming to London?

He's having a fund raising dinner/drinks/jolly here.




...What's best of all here is that one of the major sponsors and organisers of this is Barclays bank ....

The secret of comedy is etc etc

There was an EDM -- which stood no chance of ever doing anything but gives a few backbenchers a chance to show off -- protesting about it

http://www.parliament.uk/edm/2012-13/399

Diamond Bob was originally quite heavily involved in the whole process and affair, but he decided to step down before they kicked him into touch.

dogma wrote:

Orlanth wrote:
Its not in the Gawkers interest to report what Romney's advisers said unembellished. To some extent this is their fault, spinsters ought to remember, perpetually, that is something can be taken out of context by one side or the other for partisan gain, it will.

The first sentence in the Gawker article attributes the quote to "The Telegraph". Two seconds of Google searching reveals the original source to be The Daily Telegraph.

So they just provided a link then? No they focused in removing context in order to slant the comments.

Come on give your brain a chance. The eventual source is not as relevant as the article itself which was heavily edited to remove context and reduce it to a race jibe. The Telegraph didnt do that, they highlighted the comment and considered it controversial, but left it in context; which is Romneys take on repairing the damage in relations between the US and the UK, not whether non-whites are acceptible presidents.

Orlanth wrote:

Come on give your brain a chance.

I can't wait to bust out this phrase the next time one of my friends picks up a drink!

So the term WASP stands for White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant male.

So, I am going to show my ignorance; but are there Anglo-Saxons who are not white?

There are whites who aren't anglo-saxon.

Well you could say ASP, but that doesn't sound as good?

What about us WASCs? White, Anglo-Saxon Catholics?

Easy E wrote:So the term WASP stands for White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant male.

So, I am going to show my ignorance; but are there Anglo-Saxons who are not white?

I thought it stood for.
"White Affluent Suberban Parent"

why no name though

kronk wrote:What about us WASCs? White, Anglo-Saxon Catholics?

You're outsiders. That's the point of the acronym, to emphasise how the ruling elite of the USA come from a particular class.

It isn't as true now as it was 50 years ago. Bear in mind that Kennedy is still the only catholic president, though. Obama is the only non-white, etc.

Easy E wrote:

So, I am going to show my ignorance; but are there Anglo-Saxons who are not white?

Possibly, we don't know for sure. Medieval London was known to have blacks in the population, we don't know when the black community in London began, its very possible it arrived with the Romans. This could possibly make them 'Anglo Saxon' if they were part of the Anglo Saxon nations populations.

SilverMK2 wrote:I'd go so far as to speculate that the US has one of the highest black populations outside of Africa itself. To deny that influence on American culture doesn't make sense. Nor does it make sense for a nation which only exists because people immigrated from elsewhere to try and say 'you were not one of the awesome cool original immigrants so shut up!' Is pretty silly... Neither is anyone else alive today, or for a coupple of hundred years - everyone is American, no matter the colour of their skin.

But dem blackz ar all muzlims so DAY EBUL!

Orlanth wrote:Come on give your brain a chance. The eventual source is not as relevant as the article itself which was heavily edited to remove context and reduce it to a race jibe. The Telegraph didnt do that, they highlighted the comment and considered it controversial, but left it in context; which is Romneys take on repairing the damage in relations between the US and the UK, not whether non-whites are acceptible presidents.

I did.

And yet, given Romney's racist religion, belonging to a party that basically plays against xenophobic fears and oftentimes does racist things, and the fact that Obama is not white and has been repeatedly attacked for not being white, the connotation of the phrase is obvious.

But then again, I suppose you don't want my brain to work THAT much-- just want it to work just enough to agree with you, amirite?

If you changed Mitt Romney's nationality to Eastern European the press in the West, including the US would be denouncing him as a right wing, religious facist. Just look at the racisim noise made about the Euro's being held in Poland / Ukraine. Panorama had a report showing facist / racist behaviour going on at a handful of football games. However it's ok for one of the main political parties in the US to keep having a dig about his colour. On top of this you also had plenty of people interviewd during the election, and even now still,metaphorically spitting in his direction because he's black!

Any other country would be shunned for this behaviour and it just amazes me that you still get away with it on the world stage.

Orlanth wrote:
So they just provided a link then? No they focused in removing context in order to slant the comments.

No, they copied a story that had been posted on numerous other websites. Again, Google is your friend.

As I said above, Gawker is a crappy version of TMZ.

Orlanth wrote:
Come on give your brain a chance. The eventual source is not as relevant as the article itself which was heavily edited to remove context and reduce it to a race jibe.

Dude, this is the internet. It takes less than 5 seconds to source anything you read, less when the source is given by the article in question, and less still when the quote is broken from the article.

Which, by the way, didn't reduce it to a race jibe.

Orlanth wrote:
The Telegraph didnt do that, they highlighted the comment and considered it controversial, but left it in context; which is Romneys take on repairing the damage in relations between the US and the UK, not whether non-whites are acceptible presidents.

Second sentence in the Telegraph article:

In remarks that may prompt accusations of racial insensitivity, one suggested that Mr Romney was better placed to understand the depth of ties between the two countries than Mr Obama, whose father was from Africa.

Oh, and third sentence in the Gawker article:

When explaining why Romney would have a better grasp of the relationship between the United States and the U.K., the adviser had this to say—

ZOMG, so misleading! Well, to someone who doesn't actually read the articles being debated.

Easy E wrote:So the term WASP stands for White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant male.

So Romney is a WAMM?

dogma wrote:
As I said above, Gawker is a crappy version of TMZ.

Agreed. Which explains my earlier post. Romney's entourage need to be extremely careful in what they say to who and how, so far they havent been.

I have no real critique of Gawker though here, the press is not expected to be neutral, and this gaffe was too good an opportunity to pass up.

dogma wrote:
Second sentence in the Telegraph article:

In remarks that may prompt accusations of racial insensitivity, one suggested that Mr Romney was better placed to understand the depth of ties between the two countries than Mr Obama, whose father was from Africa.

The Telegraph makes the comments yes, but the article goes on a lot longer than that placing it in context. The context is mostly overhshadowed by the gaffe hence the article title, but still the Telegraph was fair enough to place the full context. It wasn't in Gawkers interest to do same, thus the article they wrote covers the gaffe and little else.