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Post by: Kroothawk
Trying to keep this first post updated with all rumours of the upcoming starter sets:
Demiurg wrote:One would hope it'll stay the same (it won't go down), but knowing GW.. it'll probably see a price increase.
The "RRP" I've seen is 75 pounds. Thats about 118 dollars.
Harry wrote:There IS a limited edition starter set. Limited run of 5,000 copies I think is what I heard.
I do not know how it differs from the standard starter set ..... but I suspect not that much?
Any notion of split starter sets or multiple starter sets for different armies is. in my opinion, total bobbins.
Stickmonkey wrote:Starter Sets up for Pre-order August 25th. Release Sept 1.
Which means there should be photos of everything posted sometime around August 21-22.
BramGaunt wrote:I'm staying with September for the Starter Set. August for CSM. We'll know in 1 week, anyway.
If the books were really dispatched to warehouses around the world they won't sit there for long.
Old rumours:
75hastings69 wrote:The 6th ed Starter Set will be Dark Angels vs Chaos
(...)
The Chaos forces are made up of CSM Chosen, as well as Cultists/Traitors and a funky Chaos Dreadnought.... amongst others
(...)
I'm expecting the Starter Set mid September
Harry wrote:There is a special (Limited run) edition of the Starter Set.
MajorWesJanson wrote:Starter news I have heard from several places now:
Chaos:
Sorcerer
Chosen
CSM squad?
Cultists
Posessed?
Dreadnought?
Dreadnought seems likely. CSM squad may be referring to the Chosen, or may not. Posessed will have to see.
Dark Angels:
Terminator Captain
5 Deathwing
Tactical Squad
Ravenwing bikes (3 likely)
Kaelarr wrote:The Chaos forces are a CSM Sorcerer, a unit of Marines, a unit of Possessed and a unit of Cultists
(...)
I have seen the Chaos Dread, and been told that it will not be in the Starter Set
(...)
The Dark Angels are a Terminator Captain, a unit of Deathwing, a unit of Ravenwing and a unit of Marines.
Kaelarr wrote:I must make a retraction - There is a Chaos dread in the starter set, but it is not the multipart plastic kit, that will be released separately. Sorry, there were some crossed wires in my info...
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Post by: pretre
Erazmus_M_Wattle wrote:I can confirm for you all that codex Chaos Space Marines will be released in October at the earliest.
The White Dwarf features Daemons. Lots of them but no Chaos Marines. The month after is the 40k starter box so that means no codex until October. I'm a bit bummed out by this but I suppose it gives me longer to save up.
Faeit 212 wrote:
A lot of stuff has been circulating recently and I really don't know where they're getting it from. I just wanted to sort of set some of it straight.
The next 4 major launches are 3 new flyers, Chaos Space Marines, the 6th edition starter set and Dark Angels.
The new flyers (1 of which being chaos) and the Chaos Space Marine book and initial waves are both done and in some cases even distributed to warehouses.
The current itinerary for release is New Flyers plus the Chaos book and half the models for August.
Then it's the other half of chaos plus the starter for September
Then it's Dark Angels and their ENTIRE new range in October.
It's a whole lot coming really fast and there's a little bit of resistance (from certain people) on the release of the flyers and chaos all at once.
That said, August's white dwarf has been pushed back for reasons I do not know. In the past, however, the only reason for White Dwarfs to be pushed back, however, have been last minute removal of content and articles, never additions.
This month had so much content potential that about 80% of it ended up on the editing room floor, so it wouldn't be difficult for them to fill a magazine back up if they were cutting chunks out of it.
As of Thursday morning though, August white dwarf hasn't been sent to the printers. The drop date on that is Friday.
BramGaunt wrote:
I'm staying with September for the Starter Set. August for CSM. We'll know in 1 week, anyway.
If the books were really dispatched to warehouses around the world they won't sit there for long.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Added BramGaunt's quote even though he is wrong about CSM.
Didn't add faeit212, as he predicts nonsense for August (CSM Codex plus flyers, but we know it's only Daemons) and tells nonsense about the WD (which arrived in time).
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Post by: pretre
Yeah, I just did a search for all the word starter in the other thread. 
He got a lot of falses for that post. Automatically Appended Next Post: Is it wrong that I get excited as we get more and more data into the accuracy thread and really start to see patterns?
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Post by: Alpharius
pretre wrote:
Is it wrong that I get excited as we get more and more data into the accuracy thread and really start to see patterns?
Not wrong at all - it means that all of your hard work is starting to pay off, so... thanks!
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Post by: pretre
My evil plan is working! Muahahahaha
Back on topic, I am worried about this 'Special Edition' starter set. That sounds just like the kind of thing that sucks at my wallet pretty hard.
Similarly, I bought the gamer's edition and ended up selling the bag and dice to a buddy since they didn't end up being as me as I wanted them to be. I'm such a sucker.
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Post by: Semper
£75. Srsly? -_-
I miss the old £40 starter set prices. 
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Post by: Kroothawk
I have the rulebook, dice, measure and don't play Space Marines or Chaos, so I don't care
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Post by: Necros
I was kinda hoping they would be doing a starter set preview thing at GenCon.
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Post by: unmercifulconker
Semper wrote:£75. Srsly? -_-
I miss the old £40 starter set prices.
I know that feel bro.
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Post by: Lorizael
Semper wrote:£75. Srsly? -_-
I miss the old £40 starter set prices.
When was that?! I have the White Dwarf for the 2nd edition starter set- the first ever starter set for 40K. And it was £50.
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Post by: Bolognesus
4th ed. Starter was cheaper than 3rd actually
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Post by: SpaceStuff
Most certainly subscribed 
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Post by: VermGho5t
Just wanted to say thank you for the work you guys do in updating these threads. For CSM collectors like myself it is very helpful to see what is coming up, and to get excited about getting an update. Only wish they would give that to SoB as well (heard about plastics 2+ years back?).
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Post by: pretre
Sob plastics have been rumored for prob 10 years now.
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Post by: adamsouza
pretre wrote:Sob plastics have been rumored for prob 10 years now.
I honestly don't understand how BA Sanguinary warrent a plastic kit, which is awesome by the way, but sisters of battle can't merit a single genric battle babe sprue.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
pretre wrote:Sob plastics have been rumored for prob 10 years now.
SoB plastics are like the Loch Ness monster, you'll hear about them all over the place but you'll never see them yourself.
Edit:
Hellspawn I was told to wait for them to release when I first got interested in playing back very early in 4E.
OT: I am rather excited about this kit and it may actually get me collecting some more models this year if I can find some lads who want C: SM to go in halvsies with me on it.
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Post by: sennacherib
Excited and cant wait till September.
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Post by: gianlucafiorentini123
£75 is far to much for a starter, I know it'll probably be good for what you get in box, but surely it is meant to introduce new players, and £75 is alot to just try something out. And then you have to add on the cost of a few paints and brushes just to get started.  I'm still going to buy it though, I just love power armour.
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Post by: kenshin620
Bolognesus wrote:4th ed. Starter was cheaper than 3rd actually
Yea, because it had one tac squad, some termas and genestealers
Granted the Terrain was nice but imo the 5th edition set was a much better deal even with its price increase
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Post by: notprop
adamsouza wrote:pretre wrote:Sob plastics have been rumored for prob 10 years now.
I honestly don't understand how BA Sanguinary warrent a plastic kit, which is awesome by the way, but sisters of battle can't merit a single genric battle babe sprue.
Jes Goodwin was in a vid where he explained that SoB by virtue of having flowing hair, robes and other edetails were very complicated to comit to plastic without it all looking a bit crap. He also said that he though that they were near to cracking it, but that was just before the release of the Dark Eldar I think.
They may come (they supposedly exist?), but dont hold your breath.
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Post by: Brother SRM
gianlucafiorentini123 wrote: £75 is far to much for a starter, I know it'll probably be good for what you get in box, but surely it is meant to introduce new players, and £75 is alot to just try something out. And then you have to add on the cost of a few paints and brushes just to get started. I'm still going to buy it though, I just love power armour.
I'm not totally sure about that. A lot of miniatures games require an investment around that level to get started with two players, or at least ones beyond just the skirmish scale do.
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Post by: Commander Cain
kenshin620 wrote:Bolognesus wrote:4th ed. Starter was cheaper than 3rd actually
Yea, because it had one tac squad, some termas and genestealers
Granted the Terrain was nice but imo the 5th edition set was a much better deal even with its price increase
Which makes me feel incredibly guilty that I have still not finished painting the 4th ed set! 
The contents sound pretty good, a plastic termie captain makes me smile. I can live with the price and if everything looks good enough I may just stick with 40k for a little while longer!
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Post by: protonhunter
Hopeing that the quality of the starter set is on pare with AoBR. my friends got that and it got us all into war gaming
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Post by: Platuan4th
pretre wrote:Back on topic, I am worried about this 'Special Edition' starter set. That sounds just like the kind of thing that sucks at my wallet pretty hard.
Same. I'm wondering what it would contain extra.
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Post by: pretre
Platuan4th wrote:pretre wrote:Back on topic, I am worried about this 'Special Edition' starter set. That sounds just like the kind of thing that sucks at my wallet pretty hard.
Same. I'm wondering what it would contain extra.
Probably the special edition munitorum dice and munitorum templates with one of the skully tape measures. In which case, I have all that stuff, so not so sure I would get it.
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Post by: kingjayko
the chances of me buying the whole are very unlikely, I probably buy the characters of ebay for 1$ or something. the characters never sell, only the troops make good money. and it's still cheaper than retail.
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Post by: Kung Fu Jim
When I buy the starter, I will be selling off the chaos stuff, except the cultists, I'll be building a renegade guard army for Cypher. Hoping that the rumors of a captain in Termie Armor is true. Has anyone heard if Asmodai is being brought back as a character with stats?
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Post by: Anpu42
I am actualy going to buy 2-3 Starters just for the mini-books and to quickly build up a Chaos Force. I might get a Special Addition for the Dice and Templates.
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Post by: sennacherib
Waiting to see what the models look like before i go whole hog. If the cultists are decent, as is the dread, i will be happy. If the Loyalists are not slathered in Dark Angels Icons, i will be much happier.
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Post by: Lorizael
gianlucafiorentini123 wrote: £75 is far to much for a starter, I know it'll probably be good for what you get in box, but surely it is meant to introduce new players, and £75 is alot to just try something out. And then you have to add on the cost of a few paints and brushes just to get started. I'm still going to buy it though, I just love power armour.
It's not to try something out though. You're in the UK- so lots of GW store: a new beginner will get an introduction game and paint lesson, probably several before they need to commit to buying anything at all.
It'll be £75 for around £200 worth of models, books and dice/templates. Add in a paint set, spray and WD (what a GW sells to starters) you're looking at £120. Cheaper than starting the vast majority of hobbies- especially any that will last the next 20 years or more of their life.
The starter sets are huuuuge value for money.
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Post by: Brother SRM
protonhunter wrote:Hopeing that the quality of the starter set is on pare with AoBR. my friends got that and it got us all into war gaming
Considering the quality of Isle of Blood and Space Hulk, the two boxes that have come out since, I think you should prepare for something far, far cooler than AoBR!
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
I just want the minibook really, keep the DA for myself to model as a SM ally detachment/loaner force and give/sell the Chaos up.
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Post by: Noisy_Marine
That new starter ought to be $60 like AoBR used to be. I'd buy two.
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Post by: MightyGodzilla
Terminators in robes. I'm just sayin! And I hope the loyalists will be compatible with what I've made already. The AoBR marines only failing IMO was the shoulder pads. If I could have changed them out (without a hacksaw) I'd have used them all...bought two boxes....had an ork army as well.
(Well maybe not the last two things).
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Post by: Kroothawk
Rumour, take with salt:
superdupermatt wrote:Ok newest rumblings from my "people in the know" - although please note I am personally sceptical I may as well state what I've been told.
The new starter set is in three stages. 'Bronze', 'Silver' and 'Gold'.
Bronze level is two separate boxes, one for Chaos, one for Dark Angels.
Silver is the two armies put together + extras
Gold is the supposed 5k limited release, although I have no info as to what makes it limited...
TAKE SALT AS NEEDED, YMMV, DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER ETC ETC ETC
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Post by: pretre
Ooh. Interesting. I'll have to add to op.
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Post by: Commander Cain
Sounds interesting! In the last rumour thread there was something mentioned about terrain as well, maybe that is the gold extra?
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Post by: SoloFalcon1138
Noisy_Marine wrote:That new starter ought to be $60 like AoBR used to be. I'd buy two.
When was Black Reach ever $60?
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Post by: timetowaste85
SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Noisy_Marine wrote:That new starter ought to be $60 like AoBR used to be. I'd buy two.
When was Black Reach ever $60?
When it first came out. It was $60 for a while, then $75, then what it is now. It's gone through 3 pricings.
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Post by: cadbren
SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Noisy_Marine wrote:That new starter ought to be $60 like AoBR used to be. I'd buy two.
When was Black Reach ever $60?
When it first released here it was $100 NZ, now it's almost $200 (about $156 US) . It's doubled in price.
The current US price is $100. I imagine that when it first released it was almost half the price too.
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Post by: almostreal
limited edition starter set? hmmm...am I supposed to buy and not open it....
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
For all we know the Gold/Silver/Bronze thing is just a one-off thing for fun given what's happening in England right now.
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Post by: zombie
H.B.M.C. wrote:For all we know the Gold/Silver/Bronze thing is just a one-off thing for fun given what's happening in England right now.
Well lets hope that they have paid their fees to the Olympic committee or they can expect a visit from the trademark police
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Post by: Pacific
Rather stupidly, I opened this thread and my first thought was "OMG Demiurg are in the starter set!" 
Lorizael wrote:
It'll be £75 for around £200 worth of models, books and dice/templates. Add in a paint set, spray and WD (what a GW sells to starters) you're looking at £120. Cheaper than starting the vast majority of hobbies- especially any that will last the next 20 years or more of their life.
The starter sets are huuuuge value for money.
They are, certainly when compared to current prices for separate purchases, but less so than they used to be if that figure is true..
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
...if bronze level still comes with a mini'BRB I'm buying one on launch day XD
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Post by: Ultrafool
If the three boxes thing is true maybe, will the "Bronze" boxes contain a rulebook?
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
zombie wrote:Well lets hope that they have paid their fees to the Olympic committee or they can expect a visit from the trademark police
Not really. There's nothing to stop them using gold/silver/bronze. The Olympics doesn't 'own' that more than GW owns any of the silly things like "arrows" and "skulls" in their CHS lawsuit documents. Automatically Appended Next Post: Ultrafool wrote:If the three boxes thing is true maybe, will the "Bronze" boxes contain a rulebook?
Don't be greedy. It's an honour just to be in a final, let alone get a medal.
What were we talking about again? 
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Post by: unmercifulconker
Ultrafool wrote:If the three boxes thing is true maybe, will the "Bronze" boxes contain a rulebook?
I should imagine so, after all it is a starter set. If they didnt put one in it would just be buying a new battlefroce or something.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
H.B.M.C. wrote:zombie wrote:Well lets hope that they have paid their fees to the Olympic committee or they can expect a visit from the trademark police
Not really. There's nothing to stop them using gold/silver/bronze. The Olympics doesn't 'own' that more than GW owns any of the silly things like "arrows" and "skulls" in their CHS lawsuit documents.
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Ultrafool wrote:If the three boxes thing is true maybe, will the "Bronze" boxes contain a rulebook?
Don't be greedy. It's an honour just to be in a final, let alone get a medal.
What were we talking about again?
Beach volley ball of course!
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Post by: avedominusnox
I'm getting confused with all those rumors.... I would prefer prob a chaos starter with lower price than one with both armies. But, life is cruel isn't it?
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
The three tiers thing could be interesting if accurate. Just hoping its not too tempting, or too expensive, my poor credit card could be getting hammered if it is.
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Post by: notprop
H.B.M.C. wrote:zombie wrote:Well lets hope that they have paid their fees to the Olympic committee or they can expect a visit from the trademark police
Not really. There's nothing to stop them using gold/silver/bronze. The Olympics doesn't 'own' that more than GW owns any of the silly things like "arrows" and "skulls" in their CHS lawsuit documents.
Curiously enough they do, certainly within context and locality, but also a whole raft of terms that you might consider common use. The IOC actually has had people walk around games event locations warning traders not to use a hole list of terms and symbols that they own or face sanctions.
On the BBC news they followed one such person into a pub in Cardiff near to the millennium stadium who had posters about a promotion resulting in the winning of tickets and Olympic themed stuff. Suffice to say he was warned and took down the offending promotion.
Daft but true.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
notprop wrote:Curiously enough they do, certainly within context and locality, but also a whole raft of terms that you might consider common use. The IOC actually has had people walk around games event locations warning traders not to use a hole list of terms and symbols that they own or face sanctions.
I know all about that, but they can't stop GW from calling their boxed sets "gold" and "silver" about as much as they can force Microsoft to change the name of their 'Gold' and 'Silver' X-Box Live subscription options, that is to say they can't.
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Post by: protonhunter
H.B.M.C. wrote:notprop wrote:Curiously enough they do, certainly within context and locality, but also a whole raft of terms that you might consider common use. The IOC actually has had people walk around games event locations warning traders not to use a hole list of terms and symbols that they own or face sanctions.
I know all about that, but they can't stop GW from calling their boxed sets "gold" and "silver" about as much as they can force Microsoft to change the name of their 'Gold' and 'Silver' X-Box Live subscription options, that is to say they can't.
Bronze, Silver, and Gold can't be trademarked they are considered public property because of how widely the terms are used and understood.
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Post by: Breotan
protonhunter wrote:Bronze, Silver, and Gold can't be trademarked they are considered public property because of how widely the terms are used and understood.
They cannot be trademarked/copyrighted in the normal way, under copyright law. Threre are special acts of Congress that have been put into law specific to the Olympic games. The game L5R (Legend of the Five Rings) used to have five rings on their artwork. The United States Olympic Committee sued WotC (who owned it at the time) because Congress gave exclusive rights to use any symbol consisting of five interlocking rings to the USOC and WotC had to change it (they chose five coins). Depending on the country, the agreed upon laws, and how heavy handed the regional OC feels, they most certainly can take action that may seem counterintuitive to the rest of us.
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Post by: Bloodwin
The limited edition idea sounds intriguing, Given their previous limited editions I'd expect something to do with different quality items, perhaps dice like the gamer's edition of the big book. Possibly a limited edition figure case with the boxed game. Other than that if I wanted to see something really special I'd like to see Dark Angels vs Fallen but I doubt they'd go for such a niche idea. I can't see them doing a gold, silver, bronze thing, they've never cared about external social events before. If they were going to do something "Best of British" we've had our Queen's Jubilee this year and we had extra public holidays for that so I'd think that would be a bigger deal. Going back to my first idea I'd think it'd be a "25 years of Warhammer" figure case to put the box contents in. But then I am just guessing here.
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Post by: MightyGodzilla
God I was pissed when L5r had to change the backs on their cards. Breotan, I was going to bring up that same exact point. You beat me to the punch man.
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I think that the tier thing for the starter boxes is a pretty good idea. I not having any use for chaos would certainly rather have two DA boxes at the lowest tier, or just save some money, buying a smaller, more focused box. Of course the contents of the upper tiers would determine if they're worth buying, but it'd be a great opportunity to include some army specific terrain.
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Post by: adamsouza
I'm betting the limited edition starter sets will include a limited edition finecast model.
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Post by: sennacherib
If it does i wont buy it as part of my ongoing protest against the substandard quality and increased price of the afformentioned finecast.
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Post by: English Assassin
It's a reasonable guess, if not one which fills me with optimism.
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Post by: Ratius
Forgive me, any rumours on a mini rulebook ala the BR boxed set. Original is cool albeit very unweildy.
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Post by: Breotan
No rumors other than the expectation that there will be one, given how past starters have been packaged.
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Post by: kingjayko
I'm really interested in how they are going to design the miniatures. if you look at the marines from aobr, you can see that they don't have any symbols, so you can use them for any chapter you like. since this is going to be DA, I'm wondering if they have the same design...
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Post by: Anpu42
kingjayko wrote:I'm really interested in how they are going to design the miniatures. if you look at the marines from aobr, you can see that they don't have any symbols, so you can use them for any chapter you like. since this is going to be DA, I'm wondering if they have the same design...
I wonder if they are going to be like the Space Hulk ones. Part of me hopes so.
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Post by: Commander Cain
One can only hope! I don't see why not, they were made on a single sprue and push-fit same as aobr.
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Post by: Lorizael
Think about the purpose of the core starter sets.
It would be crazy if the models were chapter specific.
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Post by: sennacherib
If the models are legion specific then i will have to pass on the Marines side of the box. IF however they lack all of the DA iconography i may want an entire starter to myself. We shall all know soon.
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Post by: Mantle
I can imagine the termie captain and deathwing etc. to be chapter specific but the standard marines maybe not, I feel with the price and everything that GW is aiming at players who already play rather than new players, hoping that people will be tempted to start a new army.
Seems a bit crazy though.
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Post by: Lorizael
Mantle wrote:I can imagine the termie captain and deathwing etc. to be chapter specific but the standard marines maybe not, I feel with the price and everything that GW is aiming at players who already play rather than new players, hoping that people will be tempted to start a new army.
Seems a bit crazy though.
Nope. The starter set is just that- a starter set. It's made with starters in mind.
With the (odd) rumours of different boxes maybe there's a collectors set for existing players, but generally the starter box is there purely to sell to new players starting out.
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
If the split box/ levels rumour is true, then i'll be very happy. Not only would it be easier to get the armies separately, but it would mean GW is actually listening to people.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Vitruvian XVII wrote:If the split box/ levels rumour is true, then i'll be very happy. Not only would it be easier to get the armies separately, but it would mean GW is actually listening to people.
Nah.
It would mean they're stealing an idea I posted ages ago about "Campaign Starter Boxes".
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Post by: tyrant of loserville
September is going to be real busy for me. Football season and school will be in full swing. Good thing i can paint/homework while watching the games. Maybe ill paint up more termies in team colors like i did 5 years ago.
OT: read on other rumor posts about terrain included. Yay/nay?
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Post by: Imperial Monkey
notprop wrote:H.B.M.C. wrote:zombie wrote:Well lets hope that they have paid their fees to the Olympic committee or they can expect a visit from the trademark police
Not really. There's nothing to stop them using gold/silver/bronze. The Olympics doesn't 'own' that more than GW owns any of the silly things like "arrows" and "skulls" in their CHS lawsuit documents.
Curiously enough they do, certainly within context and locality, but also a whole raft of terms that you might consider common use. The IOC actually has had people walk around games event locations warning traders not to use a hole list of terms and symbols that they own or face sanctions.
On the BBC news they followed one such person into a pub in Cardiff near to the millennium stadium who had posters about a promotion resulting in the winning of tickets and Olympic themed stuff. Suffice to say he was warned and took down the offending promotion.
Daft but true.
Daft at the olympics is McDonalds banning all other food sellers at the olympics from selling "chips" because being a sponsor of the olympics gives you ultimate power!!
With the starter set...I like the tiered idea, especially if the bronze level is reasonably cheaper than the silver and gold.
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Post by: Kirasu
I hope there is no mini rulebook.. I miss the days of 3rd edition where I had to lug around a big rulebook + codex + white dwarfs + Index astartes + chapter approved + supplements!
Kept my arms in shape.
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Post by: MightyGodzilla
It would badass if they made mini rulebook for your Kindle, Ipad, Android Tablet. They'd make an f'ing killing on that sale.
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Post by: pretre
Why would you want a mini one for a digital device? Why not the full version?
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Post by: Do_I_Not_Like_That
It's not £75 when you're getting a 20% discount at your FLGS  and if you're only after one side - sell the other half. Everybody is a winner with GW
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Post by: kronk
pretre wrote:Why would you want a mini one for a digital device? Why not the full version?
Since it will have fewer bits, it will weigh less.
Duh!
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@kronk: Aha, very good point.
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Post by: protonhunter
less clutter? cheaper maybe?
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Post by: MightyGodzilla
pretre wrote:Why would you want a mini one for a digital device? Why not the full version?
Mainly because there's less to sift through when you're looking for something. I suppose they could do both, but my original intent would was just core rules and the indexes that are in the back. I guess it doesn't matter a whole lot, admittedly I forgot all of the rules are in the front section, before the fluff, hobby, etc.... Automatically Appended Next Post: and yes as protonhunter mentioned....cheaper too.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
A minidex for a digital device would please me greatly, hell set it up as a full app. $XX for the app which includes access to the Minidex, FAQ and Erratta, all stored locally and updated regularly when you're on Wifi or whatever. You can then buy access to the codexes of your choosing so an extra $10 for the Guard codex or whatever. Or a big group pack price for all the Codexes including ones like the SoB WD update.
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Post by: Platuan4th
Kanluwen wrote:Vitruvian XVII wrote:If the split box/ levels rumour is true, then i'll be very happy. Not only would it be easier to get the armies separately, but it would mean GW is actually listening to people.
Nah.
It would mean they're stealing an idea I posted ages ago about "Campaign Starter Boxes".
Or, it could mean they're following the examples of other companies out there that have been doing separate faction started for years.
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Post by: MightyGodzilla
Yeah, but isn't two seperate "campaign boxes", one for each faction just a battleforce box to GW?
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
MightyGodzilla wrote:It would badass if they made mini rulebook for your Kindle, Ipad, Android Tablet. They'd make an f'ing killing on that sale.
One out of three ain't bad.
No wait yes it is...
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Post by: Scottywan82
H.B.M.C. wrote:MightyGodzilla wrote:It would badass if they made mini rulebook for your Kindle, Ipad, Android Tablet. They'd make an f'ing killing on that sale.
One out of three ain't bad.
No wait yes it is...
No actually, it's not. It means one third of the customers who have such devices can get it. As opposed to ZERO thirds.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
You're missing the point...
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Post by: Scottywan82
H.B.M.C. wrote:You're missing the point...
Swear to God, I'm not. Having some availability doesn't preclude increased availability in future. It just means limited right now. Limited is better than none. Limited is not perfect. Eventually it may not be limited.
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Post by: protonhunter
If they release rules for the units in the new starter set would it stand to reason that those will be the new stats that will be in the new codex? Like if they say the cultist will be X points with Y weopon skill would it be likely that that would be their respective point value and weopon skill in the upcoming CSM codex?
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Post by: Rivet
protonhunter wrote:If they release rules for the units in the new starter set would it stand to reason that those will be the new stats that will be in the new codex? Like if they say the cultist will be X points with Y weopon skill would it be likely that that would be their respective point value and weopon skill in the upcoming CSM codex?
I would assume. It would be foolish for them to do otherwise.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
While the stats should be the same
If the box set is based on introductory scenarios would they bother giving a points cost at all ?
That way there would be even more reason for folk to buy the new 'dex as well
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Post by: Zweischneid
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:While the stats should be the same
If the box set is based on introductory scenarios would they bother giving a points cost at all ?
That way there would be even more reason for folk to buy the new 'dex as well
I would guess they are included to "introduce" people to the concept of point costs in the first place, and to the fact that while different models vary immensely in their capabilities, stronger models are usually associated with higher point costs.
That way, the "idea" of point costs will be familiar to people who move from the starter on to a Codex.
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Post by: helium42
Kirasu wrote:I hope there is no mini rulebook.. I miss the days of 3rd edition where I had to lug around a big rulebook + codex + white dwarfs + Index astartes + chapter approved + supplements!
Kept my arms in shape.
Nothing will stop you from lugging around the large rulebook even if there is a small rulebook. Many of us are hoping for a mini-rulebook because of the we do not want to lug around the big one.
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Post by: pretre
I think there was a touch of sarcasm in Kirasu's post.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Zweischneid wrote:OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:While the stats should be the same
If the box set is based on introductory scenarios would they bother giving a points cost at all ?
That way there would be even more reason for folk to buy the new 'dex as well
I would guess they are included to "introduce" people to the concept of point costs in the first place, and to the fact that while different models vary immensely in their capabilities, stronger models are usually associated with higher point costs.
That way, the "idea" of point costs will be familiar to people who move from the starter on to a Codex.
fair point,
I hadn't thought of that aspect of it
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Post by: MightyGodzilla
H.B.M.C. wrote:MightyGodzilla wrote:It would badass if they made mini rulebook for your Kindle, Ipad, Android Tablet. They'd make an f'ing killing on that sale.
One out of three ain't bad.
No wait yes it is...
GW Corporate is much like a Space Marine haven't you heard. The Needus Moremoniatus is a super human gland that will be identified by mortal sciences in about a hundred years. Basically it detects capitol. The Needus Moremoniatus will let GW know that selling their digital wares to Kindle and Android markets will make them easy money. It's message will be received, just you wait.
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Post by: insaniak
Scottywan82 wrote:Swear to God, I'm not. Having some availability doesn't preclude increased availability in future. It just means limited right now. Limited is better than none. Limited is not perfect. Eventually it may not be limited.
Limited right now when the capability is there to make it available to everyone is still daft, though.
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Post by: TommieD5
I will most likely invest in the starter, and agree with earlier posts suggesting a ipad/kindle/android version of the rulebook, would make for much cleaner, quicker referencing
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Post by: kcwm
TommieD5 wrote:I will most likely invest in the starter, and agree with earlier posts suggesting a ipad/kindle/android version of the rulebook, would make for much cleaner, quicker referencing
Only if it weren't $50 and if it were searchable. Now THAT would be awesome.
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Post by: nolzur
The current digital releases are searchable, aren't they?
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Post by: protonhunter
We've heard about Gold, Silver, Bronze editions. What we haven't heard about is Price and Content (regarding which versions get the rule book). I think it's too much to hope that the "bronze" editions cost half as much and still contain all of the fixins.
So do you guys want a half priced "bronze" or a discounted bronze with all the extra items (rule book, dice, templates), and what do you think GW will actually do?
Posted in the CSM rumer thread thought I'd bring it here too.
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Post by: Grot 6
Is this starter kit supposed to be plastic figs or that finestuff?
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Post by: Rivet
Pretty sure it is plastic. However the Chaplain people are thinking might be Fine Cast since it is limited edition or something.
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Post by: Brother SRM
Grot 6 wrote:Is this starter kit supposed to be plastic figs or that finestuff?
Considering literally every starter set going back to the early 90s has been made of plastic?
No, it's made entirely out of your mother's famous meatloaf, and you need to use the contents within 7 days of opening the box or else all the models go bad. It's part of GW's new strategy to get people buying the starter set over and over again for constant cashflow, and will propel GW to the Fortune 500. Thank your mom and her meatloaf.
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Post by: pretre
I already 'thanked' her, so you don't have to.
Yeah, it's going to be plastic simply because of the savings for how many units they will be producing.
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Post by: psychadelicmime
I haven't bought the 6th edition rule book yet, (Don't hit me!) because I am waiting for the starter set. I have enough files, clippers, and green stuff to convert the chaos army to my side! I really hope the cultists arent overdone with chaosey stuff, like tentacles.
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Post by: protonhunter
I'm really hoping they make the DA side neutral enough to be able to convert them easily into Chaos. I'll probably split the box with a vanilla SM player anyway but if I really wanted to I'd like the option to make the entire box Chaos.
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Post by: carabine
protonhunter wrote:I'm really hoping they make the DA side neutral enough to be able to convert them easily into Chaos. I'll probably split the box with a vanilla SM player anyway but if I really wanted to I'd like the option to make the entire box Chaos.
Well you're in luck since Dark Angels are already all filthy traitors you don't even have to convert
Anyways, I personally hope the starter set models are mostly blank, I'd like to have real marines not a bunch of robed whackos.
Hearing the rumors of a new chaos model between terminator and dread has ensured that I'm buying the set whether or not it tainted by an infestation of dark angels.
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Post by: Maverick421
carabine wrote:protonhunter wrote:I'm really hoping they make the DA side neutral enough to be able to convert them easily into Chaos. I'll probably split the box with a vanilla SM player anyway but if I really wanted to I'd like the option to make the entire box Chaos.
Well you're in luck since Dark Angels are already all filthy traitors you don't even have to convert
Anyways, I personally hope the starter set models are mostly blank, I'd like to have real marines not a bunch of robed whackos.
Hearing the rumors of a new chaos model between terminator and dread has ensured that I'm buying the set whether or not it tainted by an infestation of dark angels.
 Now that wasn't very nice...
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
Just looking forward to seeing some pics, although at this point I am still not sure if I will be buying.
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Post by: Brother SRM
Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Just looking forward to seeing some pics, although at this point I am still not sure if I will be buying.
I play Chaos and Marines, and one of my 40k buddies is a Dark Angels player. For me it's more like whether I'll be buying one or two I'm really confident in what GW can do with plastic these days, especially given Isle of Blood and Space Hulk.
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Post by: adamsouza
I'm in the same boat. I know I'll be at least buying 1. maybe even 2-3 depending on the price.
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Post by: Alpharius
No need for two of these threads...
Please see this one:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/468490.page
for the continuing discussion.
Thanks!
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