I like the Chaos Lord, the Librarian and the Chaplain. The chosen are kind of cool, I dislike the Cultists (I don't care about having chaff in my Chaos army, unlike some of you guys), and I actually really dislike the Hellbrute-I may actually like the classic Chaos Dreadnaught better. Ravenwing bikers...not bad, about what I'd expect from a SM bike squad, but I don't like the terminators-they seem too "busy". Same feeling on the DA Lord. Don't need more tacticals, so they barely got a glance from me. Liking a grand total of 9 models in the box makes this a "pass" for me.

 Dreal wrote:
I hate CSM until i saw the new min especialy the heretics oo yes and the DA just suck as always

What a grim judgement.

The DA just are marines with extra detail. Idk how that can possibly be bad. They didn't go over the top either; they look like very solid Dark Angel Tactical Marines. I don't know how they can possibly be construed as bad.

"Those marines need less detail! I want blobs of plastic with bolters!"

Sidenote: I love the models. All of them. I could do without the reposes, but hey, they're snap-fit; what do you expect?

The Captain looks great; not too cluttered, but enough stuff where you can tell he's a captain.

Chaplain is a perfect way for GW to milk us for more money. Great model that will get a lot of people to fork out for the LE. Granted, I think the smoke-stacks are stupid, but evocative and badass.

Love the librarian. First librarian model I've liked. The robes break up the big blueberry look they usually have, and I like the DA hood inside of the Psychic Hood. Hood-ception. Great pose too.

The termies are awesome; especially after the ugly-as-sin AoBR terminators. They stepped it up; very heroic poses, though I hate that they didn't step up and have 5 different models. Terminators deserve it most out of any of the models; they're elite badasses.

Tac squad was well-executed. The DA bits are subtle enough where it's not "OHMYGOD LOOK WE'RE DA!!!" but you can still tell. I like that they kept them robe-free, as that would have been a bit detracting from the iconic look Space Marines have. Keep the robes to vets.

Ravenwing are just sick. Simple, well posed, crisp, A+

on to Chaos.

The lord I'm shaken up by; I don't have much taste for the look of Chaos, but he sure looks like he's a Chaos lord, so good enough for me.

The chosen look great. A little spikey for me, but hey; fluff says these guys spent a while in the warp, so I suppose it fits. The poses are amazing. I'd kill to have a squad of SM posed like this.

Helbrute is cool; a little smooth on the back in comparison to the front, which looks weird. Don't like the multimelta either, but whatever. Only thing that bothers me is the random tentacles bursting out from his torso under the CCW. "Guys...we need more spikes...where should I put 'em?" "Anywhere man, slap them somewhere stupid. Preferrably so the big guy can't put his arm down. Ever. If anything will drive you into a bloodthirsty rage, it's that."

Range-cultists look A+. The commissar-coat leader is very VERY cool, one of my favorite models in the set. So is the heavy-gunner with the apron. He is just begging to have blood-spatters on that thing, along with an appropriate "butcher" nickname. Don't love the "beakie" cultists though, but eh.

CC-cultists are great. Very standard cult-y, like how all of their CCWs look very improvised, and they all look ready to do some murdering.


Good job GW; can't please 'em all, but that's just because people expect FW quality from a starter-set apparently. It's a great deal, and just about everyone should get one.

The Dark Angels are fine, and some of the terminator molds and the characters are quite good. I just wish that the Dark Angels iconography wasn't so omnipresent.

The Chaos sculpts, particularly the lord and the chosen, are easily the best single piece models that GW has ever produced.

Am I the only one who thinks the DA Captain looks sweet as hell?




And the Librarian actually.
Bit annoyed the Termies are tactical rather than TH/SS. That puts me off starting a marine force. But then, i have no idea about the DA codex, they could well be a lot better.

Nope I like him, Also im so using the Libby to make a legion of the damned SGT.
Also Testify, GW is releashing a Termy TH/SS weapon set.

The cultists look amazing! Easily some of the most '40K' models GW has produced in a long time.

The ltd ed Interrogator Chaplain doesn't really float my boat. His pose feels hidden under a lot of robes, kinda like a toddler inside a winter jacket that's two sizes two big.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Nope I like him, Also im so using the Libby to make a legion of the damned SGT.
Also Testify, GW is releashing a Termy TH/SS weapon set.

Compatable with the box set termies? I thought they were snap-fit.

Well if they are like the last ones, The arms are just regualr termy arms with pegs.

I do have to admit the new Helbrutes make it very easy for both Nurgle and Tzzench conversion and that's a deff plus

Hey I'm pretty happy with both models, but I am pleasantly surprised with how nice the Chaos models are.

What would be nice are scouts with hooded cloaks and frontal garbs

 Testify wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks the DA Captain looks sweet as hell?

I think it looks like he's holding onto a giant blue penis.

Silly as hell.

 Ailaros wrote:

 Testify wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks the DA Captain looks sweet as hell?

I think it looks like he's holding onto a giant blue penis.

Silly as hell.

Damnit...now I can't paint it flesh-pink with purple vein-like lightning effects. Thought I had a super cool, non-phallic idea, and you toss that out at me.

 Ailaros wrote:

I think it looks like he's holding onto a giant blue penis.

That says a lot more about you than it does about Dark Angel captains.

 Testify wrote:

 Ailaros wrote:

I think it looks like he's holding onto a giant blue penis.

That says a lot more about you than it does about Dark Angel captains.

Sometimes a sword is just a sword.

 Commissar41.0 wrote:
What would be nice are scouts with hooded cloaks and frontal garbs

Kind of eliminates the point of scouts if they're tripping over their own robes, doesn't it? Hard to be stealthy when you're falling on your face. Even so, robes are for veterans in the chapter, not scouts.

Testify wrote:That says a lot more about you than it does about Dark Angel captains.

That I'm observant. Yes.

ShatteredBlade wrote:Sometimes a sword is just a sword.

A sword with a curious glans-shaped point?

 Ailaros wrote:

Testify wrote:That says a lot more about you than it does about Dark Angel captains.

That I'm observant. Yes.

You see what you want to see.

I want to see a million dollars in front of me topped with a dozen giggling naked ladies.

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...

darn.

Getting back on track I am going to make the cultist sacrifices heating them up and the. Reposing so they at all arched

My honest opinion?

While technically excellent in terms of sculpting and detail, the marines are rather stale and look far too much like the "righteous paladins of goodlyness", not enough of the "genetically engineered xenocidal super soldiers with deep psychological scarring that pathologically commit atrocity to hide past sins", while some of the Chaos models in many ways have the same issue the plastic Daemon Prince does in that it looks "WoW"-ish, though I'm hoping that's partly attributable to the paint job. There's a lot of cool stuff on those Chaos models and I'm liking that they're going to a more organic/twisted style than just "marines with spikey bits".

I think the models look really good for what they are and above all are a steal at the price you are paying.

However, having said that, I will not be getting any of it. I just don't need any of them.

 Ailaros wrote:

 Testify wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks the DA Captain looks sweet as hell?

I think it looks like he's holding onto a giant blue penis.

Silly as hell.

I think we've construed you don't like them, you don't have to keep telling us.

As for myself, I think they look pretty good, will probably be making some sort of a chaos force with them.

They've been doing swords like that with DA for years, since their 4th ed update. If you don't like it, it's not hard to just shave the offending area of the sword off or replace the blade altogether.

 Testify wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks the DA Captain looks sweet as hell?




And the Librarian actually.
Bit annoyed the Termies are tactical rather than TH/SS. That puts me off starting a marine force. But then, i have no idea about the DA codex, they could well be a lot better.

Stupid pose, ugly sword, ugly wing head. He reminds me of a DA castellan srowe.

Then again, he's plastic, so it could be worse.

I love the boxed set Especially the Chosen. I hope it is the new look for chaos a bit more evil.

 Jayden63 wrote:
I think the models look really good for what they are and above all are a steal at the price you are paying.

QFT

To people complaining about them: \what do you really expect for a "value" starter set? This is one of the best sets GW have ever produced. We should give them a little credit rather than constantly kicking them

For once, I'm rather impressed overall with the miniatures, my only disappointment being the "Hellbrute", for not being a Dreadnought.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
GW is releashing a Termy TH/SS weapon set.

Eh? Do you mean there's a separate Deathwing set with TH/SS to come, or merely that GW are releasing the requisite arms and weapons separately from the present Terminator Assault Squad box?

i just want the lord and the dreadnought really

I really like the new Chaos figs, I'm not, however, enamoured of the new DK figs.

I think the Chaos figs set a new standard for posing and detail. The Dk figs just look old hat to me.

Umm... DA figs... lol.

 Jayden63 wrote:
I think the models look really good for what they are and above all are a steal at the price you are paying.

However, having said that, I will not be getting any of it. I just don't need any of them.

obviously I think its a great deal and am buying it regardless of its contents. I need a rulebook and I could either pay $75 for a heavy book or 100 for a light book and some bits for the olde bit box.

Technically I think the models are better than AOBR.

The problem comes with what i actually want. I am building a chaos list and was really looking forward to cultists, the dread, etc.
The chaos lord looks great, as do the chosen but honestly there are a ton of good looking chaos lord models already out there.

The hellbrute, he looks ok. I like most everything but the face is atrocious. Is that bobba fett in the center of a teeth lined mouth? Why would you have a mouth with the pilots head in it? And the horns, why so many horns?

The cultists with rifles are ok, they look chaosy without resorting to spiky andor horns. The ccwpistol dudes are bad, really bad. "in the grim dark future of the 41st milenium there are only spiked clubs" Seriously are knives that rare that one has to resort to pipes and homeade spiked clubs? The poses are bad. I am not sure what they are doing other than posing for photos for their mother.

On to the marine side.

The chapolin is awesome, worth the effort to convert away from DA. No complaints other than his stupid weapon, which I am going to snip off and replace anyway.

The marines are good, they dont all have the same bolter pose. I can deal with them. The sergent looks awesome, although his pose is a little off.

The terminators are good, except for the sergeants wings. They look dumb being straight out and high. Dumber than chaos terminators with their trophy racks.

The librarian, ok he works.

The captian is dumb. He looks like his is holding his sword like a 6 year old. Like he is clutching his mother's skirts. like he doesnt know how to use it.

The bikes, who puts bikes in a starter set? Unless you are doing a bike army, few people need bikes, they are a lot of plastic for not much use.

Oh and BTW, the Dark Angel figs still look like Marine Midgets doing a bad Jawa imitation...

If you are going to ask people what they think of something, please post pictures of what you want them to comment on

The new CSM look pretty cool from the images posted by other people.

Still not going to be buying any of them, but hey...

Chaos is just beautiful. LOVE their new models.
Very "Chaosy" and not just by adding spikes/skulls. Awesome job.

DA are much worse.
Terminators are bad.. Terminators Sergeant is butt ugly. The wings on him look ridiculous.
Ravenwing bikes look nice. I like those.
Others - well.. marines..? Same as any other..

To anyone interested I HATE the cc cultists and would be willing to trade my 2 sets of them for 2 sets of the ranged cultists

The chaos stuff looks awseome except for one or two goofy looking cultists. I would headswap for something in my bitz box, maybe Mantic Ghouls or guardsmen etc

Exergy wrote:[The captian is dumb. He looks like his is holding his sword like a 6 year old. Like he is clutching his mother's skirts. like he doesnt know how to use it.

Captain Fantastic wrote:
Stupid pose, ugly sword, ugly wing head. He reminds me of a DA castellan srowe.

Then again, he's plastic, so it could be worse.

Well, at least now we know what users have never held a sword.

Fact is; that's the best pose they could give a 2h-Sword guy while still making sense. He's not swinging it, he's not charging, he's holding it at the ready. Best way to do it. Close to the body means less torque, which alleviates unnecessary stress on his arms. Holding it away from the body would make it too heavy to protract such a stance for long amounts of time, holding it with 1 hand would be ridiculous, and holding it any other manner (upside-down? Sideways?) Though heroic, is ridiculous.

Holding a 2h sword out like that is stupidly heavy.

Only alternative is to have him with the sword sheathed; but they obviously wanted to showcase his usage of it.

Silly looking penis-sword, but the pose is practical and fine.

I do not play Marines so I could care less about the DA but they look nice ( I really want to convert the Librarian)

I do play Chaos however and could not be happier with everything I see in this box.

 Commissar41.0 wrote:
To anyone interested I HATE the cc cultists and would be willing to trade my 2 sets of them for 2 sets of the ranged cultists

ditto, the ranged cultists are 10 times better than the CC variety.

I am guessing they will be better in game terms as well.

Awesome models up the would-be Dreadnought.

On the whole, they are all good models. But if you were to twist my arm I'd have to say that the Deathwing are a bit bland? Personally I'd like to have seen them done with a more aged design, sort of artificer armoured style.

I love every mini, and best of all I'm starting a chaos and DA army even before this was released!

On the whole I think the models are very good, with the notable exception of the repeats. However most of the models seem to have allot more character than AOBR or BFM.

Chaplain: Very sold build, dont know whats going on with the smoke though. A hooded skull would have been extra awesome.

Captain: Again very solid, if a little static. Helmet feathers look very good. Not hugely different from the normal DA captain.

Librarian: Very, very good. Lots of room for epic psychic power conversions from the palm.

Deathwing: Fairly standard. I dont like the feathers on the sergeant. Dont know whats going on with the "come at me bro" from the assault cannon guy.

Tactical: Pretty standard, but allot less static than AOBR. Sergeant looks very, very good. Good we are getting plasma rather than the usual flamer/missile launcher. Not a huge amount you can do on a normal tac squad.

Rhevenwing: Very standard, will be removing the "tail wings".

Chaos Lord: Extremely cool, very nice pose. They seem to have gone a little OTT with the details though.

Possessed/Chosen: Exactly the same as above.

Dread: Pretty good, lots of character. The back however looks very "blob" like. Due to the chaos effects, it would be difficult to paint this as anything other than slaanesh/nurgle specific.

Cultists: Quite good, the amount of repeats though lets it down. I shall be modelling these to act as both cultists and imperial henchmen. Would also work very well for necromunda.

I don't like that there's ravenwing/DA icons all over the place, but the models look just fine. I like the cultists, if for no other reason than it means Cultists in the next Chaos book. The chosen are aces for quick connect models!

I love them. I've rebooted my entire hobby and am going halves with a friend so he's getting one army, I'm getting the other. I honestly don't know which one I prefer! GW ups the ante once again as far as I'm concerned.

L. Wrex

They all look really good to me. Especially the Chaplain and the Librarian, those models are just amazing.

I don't like the pattern on the Librarian's sword, that will be gone, also not keen on the smoke from the Chaplain's incense burners. As for the Helbrute, not sure what to think there. The rest I am happy with and quite like.

 Brother SRM wrote:
I'll give my breakdown on a unit-by-unit basis:
- Chaplain: I like this model a lot. I'm getting a Collector's Edition for myself just so I can have this model. The flowing cape, tabbard, and smoke make for a model with a good sense of motion to it.

I do not like the model, but it looks highly convertable. I am getting two boxes, so I will sell one of these if the prices are right on EBay either now or in the future and convert the other. I'll get rid of the stupid bits on top, that is for sure. Sadly, the Dark Angels emblem on the cloak looks sculpted on. That may be a problem. Actually, the more I look, the more I may just get rid of both...

- Master: This model rules. While his pose isn't terribly dynamic, it's not flat either. He's suitably blinged out for a captain, and the robes are cool.

Might just about be salvageable by slicing off the DA iconography and replacing the phallic symbol with a big-ass axe to make him an Executioner marine. Definitely chopping off his head wings.

- Librarian: No complaints from me.

Top notch. Sadly, the iconography is moulded on, not just painted, but I reckon I can get rid of the worst of it. I'll probably lop the sword arm off altogether and put an axe on it.

- Terminators: I don't mind the repeat pose, no big deal. The posing on the assault cannon and the chainfist are a little stiff but not atrocious. I like the sergeant a lot, but I can't decide if I do or don't like the wings.

Might sell these might keep, partly because the Space Hulk expansion, Deathwing, was awesome, and they bring back memories. Easy enough to get rid of the iconography anyway.

- Tactical Squad: They were able to actually make fairly dynamic models instead of the typical "I love my bolter" Marines, and I'm impressed. They're simple and uncluttered, which makes the Master look that much cooler. The sergeant's pose is a little odd, but the detailing is awesome so he gets a thumbs up from me.

Looks easy enough to get rid of the DA icons, so I am happy.

- Ravenwing: Excellent. Simple, but excellent. I'm happy to finally see bikes with modern bolters on them. Their poses and detailing aren't out of this world, but they're solid models.

Easy enough to de-Ravenwing, so I am happy.

- Chaos Lord: I'm in love. This dude is one of the baddest sumbitches ever put to plastic.

Huge improvement on the recent Chaos stuff, but still not as good as Realm of Chaos era stuff. GW Chaos has gone backwards since the late eighties and early nineties.

- Chosen: Just as good as the lord, with two minor niggling points. For one, I don't like the random femur bone on the lightning claw dude's loincloth. For two, the bolter guys are very cool, but how often am I going to shoot bolters from a CC squad? I don't care that there's two of this guy, just wish he was BP/CCW.

Very nice, but I prefer Nurgle!

- Hellbrute: The front of this model is awesome. The rear isn't very detailed in comparison to everything else, but I don't mind that much. It sort of evokes the RT era Chaos Dreadnought, which I like. I dig this model.

I am undecided.

- Cultists: I've already said I don't care about repeated poses. I'm painting metal IG right now for god's sake! Some of the close combat cultists suffer from the same posing problems as the AoBR Ork boyz, but not quite as bad. I still like them plenty, and I like the variety from model to model. I definitely dig these dudes.

I live 'em. Don't know why some people are complaining,

 Fifty wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:

- Chaos Lord: I'm in love. This dude is one of the baddest sumbitches ever put to plastic.

Huge improvement on the recent Chaos stuff, but still not as good as Realm of Chaos era stuff. GW Chaos has gone backwards since the late eighties and early nineties.

It's interesting; while the sculpting quality has gone up for Chaos stuff it's drifted further and further from the mutated/semi-organic look of the Realm of Chaos stuff and into "Marines with spikes" territory more and more. This looks like a return to that, and I think we agree that's a good thing! While I like both aesthetics, I'd like to see where GW can go with this new/old aesthetic.

 Fifty wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:
I'll give my breakdown on a unit-by-unit basis:
- Chaplain: I like this model a lot. I'm getting a Collector's Edition for myself just so I can have this model. The flowing cape, tabbard, and smoke make for a model with a good sense of motion to it.

I do not like the model, but it looks highly convertable. I am getting two boxes, so I will sell one of these if the prices are right on EBay either now or in the future and convert the other. I'll get rid of the stupid bits on top, that is for sure. Sadly, the Dark Angels emblem on the cloak looks sculpted on. That may be a problem. Actually, the more I look, the more I may just get rid of both...

- Master: This model rules. While his pose isn't terribly dynamic, it's not flat either. He's suitably blinged out for a captain, and the robes are cool.

Might just about be salvageable by slicing off the DA iconography and replacing the phallic symbol with a big-ass axe to make him an Executioner marine. Definitely chopping off his head wings.

- Librarian: No complaints from me.

Top notch. Sadly, the iconography is moulded on, not just painted, but I reckon I can get rid of the worst of it. I'll probably lop the sword arm off altogether and put an axe on it.

- Terminators: I don't mind the repeat pose, no big deal. The posing on the assault cannon and the chainfist are a little stiff but not atrocious. I like the sergeant a lot, but I can't decide if I do or don't like the wings.

Might sell these might keep, partly because the Space Hulk expansion, Deathwing, was awesome, and they bring back memories. Easy enough to get rid of the iconography anyway.

- Tactical Squad: They were able to actually make fairly dynamic models instead of the typical "I love my bolter" Marines, and I'm impressed. They're simple and uncluttered, which makes the Master look that much cooler. The sergeant's pose is a little odd, but the detailing is awesome so he gets a thumbs up from me.

Looks easy enough to get rid of the DA icons, so I am happy.

- Ravenwing: Excellent. Simple, but excellent. I'm happy to finally see bikes with modern bolters on them. Their poses and detailing aren't out of this world, but they're solid models.

Easy enough to de-Ravenwing, so I am happy.

Couldn't condense this into "The DA stuff looks easy enough to get rid of the iconography" eh?

I love all the models, but especially al lthe Chaos models. Those babies are gonig to kickstart my Chaos Army.

I don't play either faction, and don't need any of the models.

But dear Lord do I want the Helbrute. And if I managed to get the Chosen and the Chaos Lord, I'd be OK. But I love that Helbrute.

The Dark Angels are just Marines in robes. I'm not too impressed with any of them. None are terrible, but not seem really outstanding either.

Love most of them, what I don't like (mostly in the DA department) will take a wee bit of converting to fix up. Getting two sets, all of which will be dedicated to Chaos

Bath robes on the tac squad would have been ace... but I'm going to end up buying so many more marines + dark angels upgrade spru's that it won't be a big deal.

On the whole I'm happy with how they look and can't wait to get my hands on them.

Also I think the back of the terminator captain looks worse than the back of the hellbrute.

 Fifty wrote:

- Chaos Lord: I'm in love. This dude is one of the baddest sumbitches ever put to plastic.

Huge improvement on the recent Chaos stuff, but still not as good as Realm of Chaos era stuff. GW Chaos has gone backwards since the late eighties and early nineties.

Definitely agree here. Realms of Chaos was the best stuff model-wise Chaos has ever had (and most likely ever will), and I've always disliked 2nd edition 40k and beyond for turning them into simple "spikey" marines with horns. Say what you will about 3.5 being a good "Chaos" book, it's got nothing on Slaves to Darkness!
That being said I am glad for more of a return to this aesthetic. If you notice, some of the Chosen backpacks have the creepy hand/claws holding the bulbs with vents which I really like. Hopefully we'll see more of this in the future, and I'm sure we will.

I've posted before that I don't care for these, but here is a thread asking for opinions.

Repeats. I don't want anymore repeats for the price of a starter box. Especially as many as are in this set.

The DA look horrendously cartoony. Over the top feather things. Plus, well, I don't need any more termies or tacts.

I like the termie with the assault cannon, but don't need it.

I'm not sure what I would do with three bikes with feather things. I guess purchase more to make them a real squad? No thanks.

Chaos lord is okay, but I don't like the horns or the pose.

Chosen look nice, although, repeat. And I hate the eye on the champion's forehead. Not particularly scary or awe inspiring.

Cultists are repeating left and right. I'd rather see some cool traitor guard or something.

The Hellbrute looks okay in the front, but the back is awful. Also, the withered head looks sad. Like an old man. Not terrifying like a chaos dread should be.

I was looking at this set as a way to build up a new Chaos army, but I doubt I will even pick it up. Just my opinion, but it does not look worth the money. If I'm going to do traitor guard there's other models worth getting.

The only parts of the set i don't like are the Chaplain (which is already gone off the US site), and the idiotically stubby multi-melta arm on the dread. The elbow joint is just a softy-detailed lump of plastic that connects from the gun to the shoulder. The other arm is great.

Holy crap.

Look at the 360 of the Chosen sergeant. Tentacles coming out of his back are reloading his holstered bolter.

Nice touch GW.

Also, the limited edition is back up on the GW site; idk for how long, but if you were looking for it, there we go.

Another thing about the Chosen sarge: Does anyone else think he'd be better if he was wearing his nifty badass helmet? Or is it just me?

 King Pariah wrote:
Another thing about the Chosen sarge: Does anyone else think he'd be better if he was wearing his nifty badass helmet? Or is it just me?

I think many of us would agree; my Iron Warriors are all helmeted and he's going to throw that off with his bare head!

Everything looks cool... but I would rather have Ultramarines than Dark Angels and I think it'd be too much effort to try and convert them.

The Chaos models look GREAT and waaaaay different than the CSM I have now; my CSM look like space marines that went to a Misfits concert and got really into it, and these guys just look pure evil. Much more badass but i don't know how the new CSM would mix with my old ones.

Well it's almost that time the boxes will be coming soon and the madness will begin....I encourage everyone to post pics of their work to show the diversity of chaos and DA successor chapters in this thread I will be sending my chaos to Blue Table Painting to get a masters work done still indecisive if I should make them Khorne or Tzeench

I must admit, the photos of this set have me dusting off my old unpainted space marines and looking at painting up some Angels of Vengeance or Consecrators; anything closer to pre-heresy DA's instead of painting tons and tons of green.

I'm loving the amount of detail and character in the sculpts. Especially since some of the previous 40k boxes have been a bit hit and miss. Other than the captain / sargent the AOBR marines were a bit bland. In comparison (even with the duplicates) these look great.

Also loving the chaos marines they look fantastic.

Time to go find my tools and paints I think.

I really like this starter set, I am about half way done with the DA an plan on trading the chaos stuff off to a friend for his DA stuff.

I like the Terminators better this way.


There is a little roughness where I cut off his power fist but with some paint it will look pretty good.

 Ailaros wrote:




Seriously, if CSM is going to turn into emo marines, I quit...

Good god, cannot unsee...

Really, I like the Cultists, and kinda dislike everything else. All of the other chaos dudes look to busy to me. I've always been a fan of Chosen, and I like that they're just laden with weapons, but I always imagined Chosen to be a bit more stripped down and, for lack of a better term, professional when it comes to armor. I guess it's just personal bias.

The DA look as good as Non Space Wolf Space Marines can I guess

I think these are perhaps the best models I've ever seen GW do..I absolutely love them That being said I can understand how some people wouldn't like the aesthetics as that's something that's extremely subjective....as to the Emo marines comments thanks to the lords sculpts....

I'm pretty sure GW could print "CHAOS SPACE MARINES WIN EVERY GAME THEY ARE IN" as an army rule in the next book and chaos players would just complain about the font being wrong.

 Dr. Spaceman wrote:
Everything looks cool... but I would rather have Ultramarines than Dark Angels and I think it'd be too much effort to try and convert them.

The Chaos models look GREAT and waaaaay different than the CSM I have now; my CSM look like space marines that went to a Misfits concert and got really into it, and these guys just look pure evil. Much more badass but i don't know how the new CSM would mix with my old ones.

As an ultramarine player,myself I do also wish they were ultras, I even considered using them as an allied force of da angels for my ultras, to get access to divination....but I just love me them blue marines, the only exception being that I'm probably going to be lazy, paint them blue, paint all the wings stuff extra gaudy gold and call it a day, oh, and plenty of big U decals.

As for the chaos, I'm loving all of them, I'm not truly understanding the hate against the hellbrute, he's warped and mutated, that's why he looks all out of proportion!obviously his gun didn't warp along with him I guess, or maybe its cold outside. I also gotta say the cultist look fantastic, they remind me of the road warrior, gangs of insane people using scrap to arm themselves, along with awesome skin brands and masks!

I loooove the Chaos models, very much in contrast of how bland I think the DA models are. The only thing I'm annoyed about is that I don't have the time to collect a Chaos army.

i liek the chaos models and i might keep some out of my next box, but i was fortunate to find somebody who wanted the chaos half and not the dark angels half so i bought a limited edition for the chaplain and he is buying a regular box set this weekend and we are swapping minis. I like the models in this one space marine side better than aobr they seem more alive more fluid and less generic. I bought 4 aobr boxes because orks are my main army and its nice to have a spare sm army for people to try out the game with, this box gave me some new very pretty minis to paint up and add to the sm diversity ... but i will likely just get the 2 sets worth of it for marines and call it a day i have no desire to get chaos models/ chaos space marines though the models are cool i just would put them at about 5th or 6th on my list of armies to build maybe after my orks, eldar, next army tau, then necrons, and finally imperial guard... then maybe i will work on chaos